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[@steveparker8065]

I think we as workers need to understand the power we have. Workers produce the goods, build the houses, build the roads, transport the goods, heal the sick, repair what's broken, provide the services, work out the balance sheets, fight the wars, manage, clean and protect society. We provide the dual roles in the economy of worker and taxpayer, producer and consumer, service provider and service user. We are collateral, taxpayers, cannon fodder and consumers. Why should we live in poverty while the Tories siphon our taxes and provide little use to society? We are tied to debt, mortgages, jobs, car finance agreements, bills, looking after our children etc and these things make us unwilling to take real action such as national strikes. But in reality, we allow these short-term problems to rob the next generation of even more freedoms and opportunities. Thanks for the video Gary, I think it's important to expose the big picture to as many people as possible.

[@ai-d2121]

Workers as in “ everyone except the superrich who already know and play us like a fiddle”?

[@steveparker8065]

@@ai-d2121 Essentially 90-99% of us dependant on how high up the pyramid you go. The top 1% have the majority of resources and power, possibly refine that to the top 1% of the top 1%. The higher up the pyramid we go the more power and wealth are in the hands of a tiny organic group of people with varying views and interests who look after their own self-interests through mutual cooperation and control.

[@davidbishopbishop4664]

So what policies would work to rebalance society slogans such as TAX THE RICH will be used to turn the aspirational or deferential people against there own interests by controlled media. There is a moral stupidity in British society incapsulated as Stiff Upper Lip / I know my place/ Keep calm and carry on with personal slavery. People can agitate and join various forums but how do we force the powerful to understand that it is in their own interest to rebalance society in a more equitable way . BY DESTROYIING the purchasing power of the working and middle classes whole sections of the economy will collapse ie. Services, cafes Corner shops,restaurants, takeaways taxis,small builders etc. Because it is the workers who spend money not the asset owning class. The way to rebalance is to tax assets, property share dividends ,commodity hoarders, city bonuses and introduce basic income for all.

[@davidbishopbishop4664]

Debt is a tool of control utilised by powerful interests to keep us in turpitude.

[@steveparker8065]

@@davidbishopbishop4664 Agreed on many points. Some options include an ideological shift through education and agitation, strikes don't need to be damaging, they just have to be used effectively, enforcing criminal proceedings against corrupt MPs, marching, unity and if necessary uprising, enforcing plurality of the media. Then we tax wealth, the investor class, inherited wealth, close tax loopholes, and renationalise industries such as energy, communications, transport etc. As I said things will only get worse we have little to lose in the long run. We are heading for a dystopian corporatocracy. The longer we wait the harder it gets and the more legislation is put in place to block us.

[@Tochinoki]

Financial education is so important. It's why they don't teach it in schools. It's easier to keep people subservient to a system if they don't understand it.

[@tonywilson4713]

yeah I am an engineer and my economics education was a single class in college as one of my humanities options. I thought it was so much garbage I never wanted to deal with it again. *BUT (and to your point) I HAD TO ACCEPT WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS* otherwise the top 1% will *CONTINUE* to run over the top of us. As an engineer I simply go tired of them beating me over the head and interfering in projects. So I started looking for people who could explain this stuff. I only discovered Gary recently and he's one of the brightest lights we have right now. One of the other very bright lights is Mark Blyth (the Scot) who's at Brown U. in America.

[@steveparker8065]

Agreed, The Tory/Very wealthy attitude: Let's not educate working people, the last thing we want is educated, well-fed, healthy citizens immune to gaslighting walking around challenging the aristocracy and their corporatocracy...

[@tonywilson4713]

@bina nocht Remember in college almost everything is divided into 2 groups at the undergrad/bachelor level. Arts and Science. My degree is actually a BSc in Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering. For all the non science people its a Bachelor of Arts in Economics or a Bachelor of Arts in Music or History or something else. Some colleges do issue Bachelors of Engineering or Bachelor of "something specific" but mine didn't. So as an engineer they tell us we have to do X number of credits/hours/classes/courses in "humanities" and that means anything NOT taught by the engineering and science colleges/departments. I did classes in Economics, Psychology, 2 in Sociology, 3 in Classical Civilisations and 1 in Scuba (a PE class) and 1 in Nautical Navigation. Because all were NOT taught by a science or engineering department they all fall under the "humanities" tag.

[@tonywilson4713]

@bina nocht WTF????

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Gary, please keep releasing new videos each week. Even if you're covering some of the same stuff, KZbin has a way of working which encourages new releases. More people are seeing your videos, more people are learning. Keep going, please. And what can we do to help? How do we increase the viewers?

[@brucechun1648]

Unionize at work. Organise at Home. Gary you can't do this alone. Love your message. Bruce 60 year old Canadian. Worked to support my fellows at work to not get exploited by producers and management. Organizing and voting and fighting back. Together we can.

[@rof8200]

Producers and management aren't the problem. It's the very rich who accumulate assets that are causing the issue.

[@brucechun1648]

@@rof8200 They are one and the same. Oligarchs who micro manage to make sure the workers are suffering. Rethink the Entertainment industry now with what you have learned in the last 6 months. They are all part of the same club of having been chosen by God. It's exclusive by genetics.with ties always to bigger and bigger oligarchs hedge funds you know too well worth Trillions. Banks Financial and governmental structures. Their dedication and loyalty to country is superceded by something deeper and darker. Which of course results in Dark results. 2024 as we know it. I'm in Mexico in the mountains where it's well known for being cooll all year. But sunny. It's finished. We are cooking at 30o during winter. at 7000 ft. The lake in the vally is a reservoir. Sorry was a reservoir. WAS a Lake. Dropped some 30 ft and dry as a bone. All bottled water in this once paradise, San Miguel. Thanks for your support. I would love to do some Videography for you and your team. I'm an award winning Cinematographer.

[@bostonlincolnshire8745]

Hi Gary, Melanie from Boston, Lincs here (went to primary skool in Plaistow). I ended up here in rural England becos I was a single-Mom and wanted to buy a detached house with a bit a of land in 2006. I could not get this in my last town of Brentwood, Essex. I am also a Bi-racial of White/ Asian. This struggle goes beyond Economics Gary and it more so a battle of good Vs evil. It is ultimately all abt MIND CONTROL. As U said is a humble manner, we each need to do our small part. Up here in Lincs, I put my only child thru Grammar skool and empathized to him that education and good grades is a passport out of our depravity up here in these poor towns. He flourished in Sciences and got offered a place at King's College but did not think it wud suit him (not enuff blacks n Asians haha) so opted for his 2nd choice Queen Mary which U know is in Mile End. He thrives there and rents in Whitechapel. We need to talk to the young ppl and offer them an alternative way out. Until we change the people at the top (MD's, Politicians, Doctors, Economists, etc) we will not lead by example. My Son wud like to work in big Pharma and work his way up to the top. He may remember my teaching him, that people have health issues due to stress, low incomes, unreasonable working conditions, etc. Lets get out to the University students and attend freshers weeks, etc. THANK YOU GARY.

[@alancavill7166]

Thank you so much. What an amazing comment. I would love to see more stories like yours being shared with us all. Cheers

[@itsPenguinBoy]

That question was so good... I feel like it actually challenged Gary to think about how we participate in politics when we're tired and we have no energy.

[@pierremartini2229]

Another great video Gary. I am hooked on your channel. I live in France and, as you say, the situation is global. Everything you say applies here as it does everywhere on this planet of ours. I have worked in a few different countries over the years as a language trainer and have been lucky enough to meet people from all walks of life from employees right up to CEOs in a wide variety of sectors. The key is educating and informing people of the realities of what is going on. The mainstream media doesn't do this, so it is up to all of us to try to spread the word to friends and family, some of whom may be reticent, due to engrained prejudices and pre-conceived ideas. The rich and powerful have had centuries of practice in 'divide and rule', deflection and laying the blame for all ills on convenient scapegoats, i.e. immigrants and benefit scroungers. It's an uphill struggle my friend.

[@almafrith778]

Thanks, Gary for another great analysis. You are right, I don't think enough people realise that as a collective we can do some much to make ourselves be heard.

[@TheBurdenOfHope]

This format is outstanding. I felt like the person there is asking the questions I find myself pondering when watching your videos. Such unique content. I think more like this, will really help people alongside the fantastic analysis Gary already gives us. Thank you for all that you do x

[@peterdollins3610]

Brilliant channel. Keir has said he will use wealth taxes but if he or Labour will slam wealth enough to cure this problem I kind of doubt. We live in hope. But Gary is right, it needs massive pressure from the Electorate to make the changes neccessary for us, the majority.

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

I bet you a pot noodle that once he gets in power he will do next to nothing about it. Tories said they would level up but didn't.

[@vicsomeone]

@@b00ts4ndc4ts 100% The current Labour Party is not fit for purpose, we are now in a position of choosing what shade of blue we think we could handle. Not to mention Starmer's denial of democracy for the Scots and his whispered intention to continue the corporatist hegemony. There has to be an alternative that represents the working people and those affected by the economic crimes of the wealthy class.

[@johnwright9372]

Thatcher attacked and destroyed organised labour and the Tories continue to do so precisely because it was the political and financial base of the Labour Party. Today Starmer and his front bench dare not speak the real truth because the right wing owned media will crucify him in any general election just as they vilified and smeared Corbyn.

[@bigdaz7272]

Good format on this one Gary. An informal chat and questions from an none expert ordinary dude. Well done guys :)

[@Kalarandir]

Thanks for the message Gary. Like you I endlessly try to tell people that only through voting will they get change. One thing that politicians have done is convince people that their vote does not matter, and the media re-enforces this message showing statistics that our representatives only pass laws that directly benefit the wealthy and corporations. Keep banging the drum that only through forcing our politicians to take action on wealth inequality will change happen.

[@noodle845]

I know plenty of people who vote. They just vote for Tories or New Labour. keeping things the same 😔

[@Kalarandir]

@@noodle845 So do I, but the people I hear complain the most about things just as quickly turn around and tell me that they don't vote.

[@noodle845]

@@Kalarandir ah I see

[@Bandanko]

voting is certainly not the only way to affect change

[@elpirata2685]

@@Bandanko voting is not sufficient to effect change.

[@tranceman22]

Thank you Gary. Since watching your videos things have become much clearer. I now feel confident to engage with people on the subject of wealth inequality and spread the message.

[@mickhills9543]

Absolutely spot on Garry. Political education /economic education is vital and it works as you say.

[@Kaz-UK]

I agree we need to spread the message, share and raise awareness to family, friends, people around you into realising that the wealth inequality gap is widening, and the impact it has on us all. Collectively when we understand, are made aware more and more by what is happening the more people chat about it, and it gets heard every day, the more its heard, its spoken, its considered, its encompassed into day to day thoughts whatever your position is in life. It's affecting us all now and more so for our children, g'children the future generations. Gary raises awareness of wealth inequality, many people don't even realise its a thing, and we can and should echo..echo……echo……echo

[@AN-me3qy]

Thanks for your videos and information and helping us to understand what is actually going on and giving us a bit of hope. Power is always with the people, but we haven't woken up properly yet.

[@coopsnz1]

Jeremy Corbyn a moron

[@DirtyJokesFan]

This channel should well over three figure subscriber numbers and beyond. Fantastic work.

[@colinbrigham8253]

Thank you Gary 😊 I encourage my family and friends to watch your common sense explanations of the economic reality hidden by the grind of just making a living.

[@andrewmallory3854]

People are not misinformed - they are disinformed. You kind of say this but I prefer to add disinformed to my lexicon so I can better capture the essence if what is happening. Great video - again. Thanks.

[@Adamnlaw]

The majority of people don't seem to want to be informed or search for the information themselves. They seem to just want to carry on with everyday life until it affects them, which it will do in the near future. Channels like Gary's channel and Politics Joe are what the general public need to get this information to be "common sense". Thanks again Gary!

[@coopsnz1]

@@Adamnlaw what lies he want communism and that worse for middle class

[@mikezooper]

@@AdamnlawMost people are so busy struggling with modern life, that they don’t have time to discover the truth.

[@valeriobertoncello1809]

The poetry of the storm leaving way to a gorgeous clear sky over the city was beautiful... and reflective of Gary's message!

[@bluenose7059]

Hi Gary, thanks for your channel and everything you put into it. I unfortunately only came across it recently but it is fascinating to listen to you relate what is really going on with society in Britain. Is it possible for you to do a video to inform the public of the real damage that Brexit is doing to the country? Best wishes & keep up the great work, John

[@lisamackenzie9681]

Gary, I really appreciate your videos and your views on economics, and that you are trying to educate people on these issues. I would love to be able to send links to certain friends and family, but your presentation is very 'one note'. Simply talking, which is fine for people like me who are interested in economics, but the voters who really need to know that they are being lied to about inequality won't sit for it. My advice would be if you are trying to get the message out as wide as possible you need to consider using visual aids to explain concepts. Have you watched the tdlr videos? Note how they use visuals in order to explain things. I really think your message needs to get out as wide as possible, if you step up presentation it will reach more people.

[@steveparker8065]

Thanks for the vid, Gary. Accept the lack of freedom and the never-ending bureaucracy, consume, pay bills and give consent to the dystopian corporatocracy.

[@ArcanePath360]

It is our destiny it seems. What can we do if the vast majority refuse to wake up or be educated? It's not their fault... they were conditioned from childhood to be this way.

[@steveparker8065]

@@ArcanePath360 Hard work creates wealth, no politics at the table, listen to your betters, keep your head down, stiff upper lip, blah blah blah. As you say indoctrination from birth.

[@jaques3597]

Glad to have found your channel. We in the u.s. need thinking like this also.

[@alfiecdyson]

Let’s crowd fun Gary’s ascent to newspaper-owning billionaire!!

[@alfiecdyson]

Great stuff, Gary! I’d love to hear you elaborate with more defiant confidence the structural and systemic “intention” and history being misinformation? Perhaps invite other guests on to help your viewers join the dots? Truth is before anything can change we need to correct for the historical erasure in our schools as we common people are scarcely taught any meaningful political literacy or working history! More power to you, your voice is strong and LOUD ✊🏿✊🏻

[@knowledgeis5855]

Great conversation Gary. I have no faith at all in government. With lobbying allowed money will prevail in making decisions. With politicians in many cases coming from wealthy backgrounds, money will prevail. The thing I struggle with is that my personal solution is to simply make more money. With all this talk and no clear effective way to make actionable change, earning more is my only personal solution. Many in the working class I have tried to educate via media, books convos etc seem not to have the capacity to even care to educate themselves about finance which is unfortunate. If you cannot want to learn the basics of money, which demands the most time in your adult life, how can you even fathom wealth equality effectively. This whole thing needs more than just a labour vote. Ironically that seems to be the solution for many and many do not even belive in Kier Starmers Conviction should he be PM.

[@farhiyadirir8497]

@Gary'seconomics I wanted to share why I watch the channel. I fundamentally feel the worthiness of all human beings, irrespective of how skilled they are at participating with current economic system or not. All people deserve to be treated with dignity and care. This includes meeting people's material needs if for whatever reason they cannot provide for themselves. I think humanity is technically advanced enough to meet the material needs of the population of the planet. This is if we outgrow scarcity and material hoarding mindset. So much of man made human suffering can be eliminated if people came before profit. I see how grotesque wealthy can destroy societies and human potential. Current economic system is restricting human potential and destroying habitats of future generations. Wealth inequality is always the unspoken and misunderstood elephant in the room. So much of human conflicts is wrapped up in Wealth inequality. I watch the channel, because I want to be part of a positive change that addressed this Enormous Unspoken Elephant in The Room.

[@BubblegumCreepydoll]

Thank you, I saw you talking on another channel. You are pretty awesome. I’m glad I found your channel. It’s practically unheard of people with wealth, sharing their knowledge, let alone understanding what it’s like to be an ordinary person living on this planet. Here is a funny thing, I googled the definition of a middle class person in the USA in the 1970’s. The example was a taxi driver marred to a home maker with 3-4 kids. Then I googled what class a married couple, each with a bachelors degree were in 2020 the answer was lower middle class. LoL. I though I was I was middle class. But todays world, two people with a degree from university are lower middle class. We have fallen below the 1970’s Taxi driver and we don’t even have kids. Not that it matters to me, but I thought it was funny, but it was a bit cruel, like little snarky bite from a cat.

[@andyheavyside]

Just here for the algorithm. Keep up the good work

[@verybod]

Ditto

[@aislingmcdonald6778]

You're right!!

[@Sa-hi5nq]

Collective action for common good, same thing Mick Lynch is calling for. Wether you agree with strikes or not, they get attention, unlike MPs fobbing off the general public with their nonsense/non answers.

[@hilaryporter7841]

"If people knew, they would vote against it". I also believe that Gary. My question is more fundamental. How do we vote against it when the oligarchy has already captured the two main parties? How? Isn't Starmer already in the bag?

[@fredrik241]

Great episode team! Thanks for spreading the word!

[@noodle845]

Hey Gary, Can you do a video on the national debt/deficit? And how government debt is different to household debt? Cheers

[@damianmurray4934]

From Aus, awesome, I keep spreading your urls, to get the word common friends to listen that they should listen and make up their own mind on what is happening, and whatn is happening in the UK is the same downunder

[@coopsnz1]

Yeah poltical class getting richer that socalism, not capitalism why your poorer and over taxed

[@ArcanePath360]

My rent has just gone up 14% based on RPI. Gary is right... the rich will eventually own all the houses and we will own nothing due to the ever increasing wealth gap.

[@leedee2598]

Another great video !

[@jonp6798]

I feel like raising the questions, educating the population en mass is the right thing to do. I also think though that a clear path needs to be built based on past evidence in order to cement the idea and be able to say to those who question the concept “look at this, this is the evidence” otherwise we will just get a narrative of you have to keep those with money happy else they will just go elsewhere.

[@elwynjones763]

He is so right!!

[@anthonyhorsnall1516]

Great video as always 🎉

[@anthonycain7002]

I believe Gary will eventually succeed in making changes

[@PortilloMoment]

Keep getting the word out mate. People have a habit of talking about 'new' stuff they've come across. As people's personal finances keep getting hit, more will be looking for explanations.

[@michaelrathbone7258]

Smashing it bruv; whatever we can do to improve the living standards of the poor, is worth it. Society certainly needs a rethink and this kind of approach is a good step in the right direction, @GarysEconomics , please do more, and I'm happy to help out. Maybe have a tiered explanation for what people can do? There are still alot of people with time and motivation

[@gayaa6490]

This was great, G!

[@beckyboop3517]

Professor Richard Wolff takes capitalism apart. The Good Law Project do some good work in digging up dirt and dark money.

[@elpirata2685]

There was a politician recently who tried to confront wealth inequality. The establishment removed the threat to their power and wealth, and purged like-minded people from within that political party, putting in charge a knight of the realm who may if elected throw us a few crumbs but will not challenge the establishment. So I don't see, Gary, the mechanism you advocate to address wealth inequality. It isn't coming through the establishment.

[@poesie6279]

Very interesting discussion

[@terrysays8812]

great stuff, when is the book out?

[@tmj1061]

❤

[@diane5891]

Hi Gary you said a lot about the need to educate which is why I watch. Sadly I didn't get any information about exactly what is going on and what we can do.

[@dreadedscotslass]

We the workers are slaves! They just pay us a wage to feed and house ourselves, saves them that inconvenience

[@coopsnz1]

Slaves to government independent & franchise owners you buy from

[@SkyEcho7]

🍻 Gary 👍🏻

[@kathfitzgibbon7113]

Hello great to find you on the channel. Do you think there is a time when its a good time to buy a house etc. Houses are dropping already. I really respect your history and your street wise wisdom.

[@optiontrader4512]

Gary the word is getting out. Inspiration takes perspiration

[@tonyaldridge8917]

the idea got through, that's really incredible

[@getreal7964]

As well as withdrawing labour (strikes) we can also chose to selectively withdraw money (spend locally at small businesses, don't buy the newspapers, don't watch the biased channels, follow alternative media such as Double Down News, Novara, yourself). Voting doesn't give you a proper choice - politics and the media ensure that only their viewpoint is heard so we need a peaceful revolution of mass protest and to flood the media with alternative (anti-capitalist) viewpoints

[@elwynjones763]

Why is it that it is almost only well-educated, open-minded thinkers, whatever their upbringing, who understand what's going on and get the big picture? I am a Welsh coal miner's son who was lucky enough to pass an entrance exam for a good grammar school, got to University and became a teacher of Geography in London. I get your thesis Gary!. I get, for example, that the very rich and powerful influence the BBC to lay low on Brexit, so do not trust it as I used to. I get the green agenda, politics and economics because my education enables me to understand TV programmes and Y tube videos such as yours. So I took an active part in politics as a member of the Lib. Dems, I am now retired and living as a citizen of the Netherlands, but do not understand Dutch politics as I have insufficient grip on the Dutch language., but continue to avidly follow the international scene, the UK. and America. The origin of and solutions to the big problems are obvious and, as you keep saying, quite simple. ''Ordinary people'' as you keep saying need to understand what's going in. keep at it Gary!!

[@arisjelilai538]

Also you can like the videos it's just a tap away. Let's goooooo!!!! 👍🤙

[@Alex-uh1mj]

Just discovered your channel after watching another interview with you. Follow a lot of your views etc a lot of your thinking is spot on However on something's i think you need a paradigm shift. For example on your thoughts on property ownership. If we took you and transported you to berlin your argument that we should all aspire to own property for wealth wouldnt stand up. Property ownership is at the root of the problem in the UK thats where people are being leveraged. Ive personally witnessed how co-operative owned housing can eliminate the housing trap and ive became quite convinced of it as a solution. When i was in my early 20s, 20 years ago i went to Bulgaria thinking about buying property, i quicky changed my mind because the numbers didn't stack up.. you could buy 4 apartments in berlin for the price of one in sofia.. and people in berlin were making 8 times more than Bulgarians on average.. Why was this, because the rich as you talked about were buying up the asset's because it was attractive to do so and to speculate in that market where in berlin with the rent controls (at that time) made it unattractive You are not being quite radical enough in your approach and thinking in my view. One thing traveling taught me is that social equality is directly linked with corruption and if you compare uk to places like Norway or Iceland what stands out is the centuries of established corruption and systematic tax avoidance by those who running the country You are right we are on the road to feudalism... Im not sure it ever really went away here.

[@kristyanafinch9789]

It's an international fight to be fought in every country because it is a globalisation issue. Here in Australia the open economy is a gift to the billionaires first and foremost as it is everywhere. Prior to WW2 you had the great depression that resulted in the disenfranchised poor working class following fascism to greater disaster. The wealthy didn't suffer at all but the average person certainly did and we seem to be sleep walking into the same situation.

[@richardburdett7410]

I understand and totally agree with you but you need to get the book written since the videos continue to ramble, mentioning the same things. Please analyse as a good Economist would using detailed empirical evidence and provide actionable solutions. This is the way you will get taken more seriously by those in power. I wish you luck.

[@moshudoduwade219]

If, if,if, Labour wins the next GE Starmer will have to be the most radical PM since CA. NHS, SES, MPF, TBA TCHS & PHI. All need to be radically reformed. If Labour win they will have to put their differences aside and do what is best for the people of this country. The injustices in society must come to an end!

[@mickhills9543]

One idea (that you may already do) is produce a short paper / bullet points on issues that people can copy and share by email or messenger.

[@Yossarian22]

Hi Gary, it would be great if you could explain to your viewers the concept of the magic money tree. Positive Money explains this brilliantly, which opened my eyes (along with your videos) to how the economy really works. Definitely a message which needs to be more widely known so the media/politicians are challenged when they say "there's no magic money tree'.

[@slartybartfast1]

Tell everyone you know about this and share videos, learn Gary's basic message and tell everyone. Use your vote when you get the chance and vote for whatever party has a policy to deal with inequality. Tell your local MP your onto this and you demand action.

[@LookDeeper]

Big things have small beginnings. T. E. Lawrence

[@TheInternetIsDeadToMe]

I think you’re underestimating a human being’s capacity to be given accurate information about reality and completely ignore it because it conflicts with their current beliefs. I include myself here.

[@elpirata2685]

With knowledge comes responsibility- and with that we either rebel or become culpable. Most people don't want responsibility.

[@Ianpact]

Thank you, Viewer and Gary.

[@carlpye9020]

hi Gary,i would love to see you and Mick Lynch, have a chat on your channel, i think you both will inspire people, nice one

[@GreenLarsen]

Do WHAT you can, WHEN you can, for as LONG as you can. Rule 303 :)

[@marinamurphy1713]

I am spreading the word.

[@jonp6798]

Do things cycle? Great question.

[@JAI_8]

There is no natural systemic tendency for cyclic behavior. Thomas Piketty shows this convincingly in his “Capital in the Twenty-First Century”. His thesis is that currently the rising global wealth inequality shows no sign of any current systemic trend to slow or reverse, and thus capitalism will naturally lead to an extreme state of wealth concentration, labor that serves the rich and massive numbers of people living in poverty. Any change to these trends will only come about through policy changes. Massive wealth redistribution occurs due to revolutionary activity, or war. War also causes asset destruction (and rebuilding which tends to have a redistributive effect … as after WWII) and a loss of a large portion of the working class, which raises the value of labor too due to increased scarcity of workers. Natural disaster or man made disaster can also impact the value of labor by creating similar scarcity. It’s clear the best option is policy change aimed at wealth redistribution to recreate a healthy middle class once again, which seems to be Gary’s message here.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Interviewers who will let you speak and who might care, so you can clearly say what's going to happen: Emily Maitliss Alex Thompson Channel 4 Victoria Derbyshire Inequality is destroying living standards. Inequality is creating food banks. Inequality is making our children hungry. Inequality is making our bills unaffordable. Inequality is making our housing unaffordable. Inequality is a choice made by previous governments and the super rich. Which WE CAN CHANGE.

[@fearlessknits1]

What I can do is write a book. Been working on it two years so far, it's getting good!

[@JonahX-ui9tf]

Great conversation, the issue I have is the political model in the UK, currently with our 2 party politics, both parties are really owned by the rich, because the political model is set up a party and get money from the rich to run your party. The money comes with ties, those ties will benefit the rich that fund the party. You can see that through the Labour Party, they no longer represent the working class, people just think that they do, but their policies do not. So I get demanding change, I believe that together we have power, but today no party exists that is demanding change, just tweaks. That’s what needs to change, so the only chance we have is someone who becomes a billionaire, that has a conscious and spends their own money to change politics, but I honest don’t think that person exists because to be a billionaire you have to be a mean selfish individual in order to become one, that’s why we end up going down the drain, war civil or global to get out the other side and change things.

[@rhinoboy6603]

I would vote for someone like you in a heartbeat. If I ever hear your message coming from a politician, they are who I will vote for. Unfortunately I fear that’s a long way off

[@cheesepuff455]

Around 9.30 when he speaks on educating working folks would make great clip🤘

[@XxExTrEmeKilla99Xx]

Hi gray could you talk more about the bank closures and central bank digital currency (which have now been adopted by china and india). Thanks

[@bryonyjohnstone6799]

I’d love gary to talk about this. The control is on its way!

[@ko6el]

Judging from previous comments from you and hearing what you say several times here, I took what you've said that the old boom bust war model is not what's going on this time.. Would that be an accurate assessment?

[@yokomotooto1255]

You may have been on and I've missed it but you'd come across brilliantly on #Questiontime

[@rof8200]

Not only do ordinary people misunderstand the problem, the rich also don't understand the problem.

[@patriciacollier128]

Omg isn't he such a good soul

[@auntsally5683]

I have a tiny flat in West London and luckily have a view of the skies it makes it tolerable. 😂🙌

[@LittlePetieWheat]

Equity is super important. What worries me more is the mis-match between the energy (esp fossil fuel energy) supply curve, and population demand curve. IMHO we need to learn to live within the doughnut. What do you think about Doughnut economics? (c.f. Kate Raworth).

[@shaky2522]

I agree with the idea of a wealth tax but how could you structure it ? An idea might be to put a community tax style mechanism say 5% or 10% of property valued at over 5-10Million

[@patrickholt2270]

There was a geopolitical as well as a multi-generational class politics dimension to what was achieved at the end of WW2. Fascism had just been defeated, which took fascism off the table for rich people as a way to manage and stamp on working class demands for redistribution. Fascism had been defeated largely thanks to the USSR and its capacity for industrial dynamism as well as ideologically committed armed resistance to fascism. So there's two geopolitical contingencies affecting what was possible after 1945 which don't exist at this moment. The other thing is the multi-generational build-up of the working class across the industrial world as a political movement. It took from the 1870s to build that working class movement, in all the unions, the leftist political parties, pro-labour newspapers, sunday schools, evening classes, social societies, colliery brass bands, working men's clubs, union football teams and a plethora of other community and political organisations to build up that solidarity and that consciousness and that ability to present a set of demands with tens of millions of people backing them, prepared to go on strike, take to the streets, and vote as a bloc. Churches and synagogues played an important role too, because of the anti-inequality messages in scripture and traditions in the faith communities that had contributed to the building of the unions and the Labour party. That multi-generational process was international too, having different amounts of success or defeat in every country, culminating in the Russian Revolution and the rise of fascism to combat the working class movement in other European countries and in the USA in the form of the KKK and Hoover's FBI. Things don't just happen because an idea is correct, or even just because it is both correct and popular. There's a class struggle that has to happen because we live in a class society where one class rules in its own benefit at the cost of everyone else, and they aren't going to give up that power or the rewards they get from that power, without a fight.

[@alexbetts8291]

The workers enable the rich to pay their debts and loans,, they certainly dont sweat for a living

[@coopsnz1]

Indpendant & franchise have more debt Beause of government why prices go up when net profit fallen that inflation caused by government

[@jamesclarke5331]

Keeping doing what you're doing mate. I'm hearing a lot of your messages and cropping up on LBC. the whole taxing wealth and assets the roman Obramovich can't take Chelsea football club with him rhetoric. There seems to be more and more people screaming tax the rich. So let's home the politicians listen and don't ignore all this.

[@adamrugen1850]

"So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern...Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult."

[@franceslothian1319]

Where is this quote from?

[@adamrugen1850]

@@franceslothian1319 1984. George Orwell didn't have much faith in the working class and I think he is right.

[@kevingrant7098]

Gary, you and the viewer must have grown up in the same area of London. You both sound so similar.

[@dazblade]

How can we get politicians in that can't/won't be influenced by big money?? If that could be done, surely this could be sorted... ? Also would be a good idea to put a chancellor in who actually understands economics and what needs to happen

[@samanthonyroberts5838]

Gary I am not altogether sure you have looked into MMT views that there are ways of increasing deficits without creating inflation. Therefore inequality of income and wealth can be made a bit better.

[@ismailk9458]

Change can come with voting for independent MPs. Leave the two party (but same agenda) system and support independent candidates.

[@poesie6279]

Jimmy Dore will have you on his show in the USA

[@icrlp0570]

illuminati lizard alien voice at the end

[@elche7367]

Yorkshire and the invasion of the Ukraine: I remember the Minners Strike and how the people in my village were given food parcels from the Russians. Big like!

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Dates: can we have a group day where we all phone in to radio stations?

[@dkir3829]

Gary, how many cups of tea do you drink every day?

[@garyseconomics]

It's out of control

[@kelly980]

Al, go rythm!