I have to ask Robert: Have you ever, in your entire life, been bored? Always such incredible stuff! Thanks!
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol - no mate - I don't get bored
@chipheadnet4 жыл бұрын
Like he has time for that nonsense!
@joohop4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering You've Inspired Me About Making Two Stonehenge Permanent Magnet Wheels Close To Each Other To Overcome The Lag , They Might Even Contra- Rotate Bless Up
@igloobearred4 жыл бұрын
...I was just talking about fly wheels!!! I love your channel, love to see how you're thinking, love that you also want to repurpose the things around you. We just started completely over in life... totally from scratch, we've very little resources (money) but the world throws away everything! There are so many free resources out there to be had. It'll be 3 more years before we have this place paid off and can build extra things from store bought materials (like a workshop), but in the mean time I'm harvesting from the abundance of junk. Can't wait to have a proper tinkering place. Cheers my friend.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
flywheels are awesome things that's for sure - glad you like the channel mate and good luck with getting set up
@Buzzhumma4 жыл бұрын
I used a 48 v mid drive motor and could produce over 100 watts easily . The key was to use a higher voltage motor so as to produce 12 volts at 25% of the designed rpm !
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
nice one mate - thanks for the tip
@cjackfly4 ай бұрын
@@Buzzhumma did you just put a clamp on the end of each positive and negative wire and go directly to the battery? Or did you have to use some kind of charger in-between?
@glennwebster16754 жыл бұрын
I like the way you get people's creative juices flowing...Great video. Thanks.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@stevetobias48904 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to the motor / generator configuration that you choose. You have proven proof of concept which is what you're all about. People need to remember that before they think that a couple of volts at a few milliamps is all that is possible. I have seen these setups produce 24 to 30 volts at almost 5 amps. Again, as Rob said, it's all about your set-up. Great video.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
yep me too mate - I don't think is even proof of concept really - it just showing folks where to stick the motor if they didn't know and how to attach it to the flywheel - that's pretty much all this video is
@DootDootShamoot2 жыл бұрын
This is great. I had a thought. What if you removed the motor and brake setup, and replaced the flywheel with a belt driver gear of the same size. That new belt drive then goes to your cheap wind generator with the magnets on the edge of it. Install a smaller belt drive gear on the bottom of it and you're good to go. I think that energy generation setup would be easier to peddle because of the low torque requirement. You could do it with either the wind blades still on, or just the bottom of it for less weight.
@AdricM4 жыл бұрын
once again, for folks following along, if you bypass the trigger on an older cordless 14v drill you can drive the chuck and get a considrable gearing up, ive made cranks for drills and you can pretty easily crank out 12v at a few watts,. and even better if its being fed from the flywheel.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
nice one mate - cheers
@Tore_Lund4 жыл бұрын
I've done the same thing: I used a 110V DC treadmill motor so the belt wheel from the flywheel on the bike was mounted on the motor axle directly as using such a high voltage motor, it only needs around 500 rpm to produce 12V at serious power levels. Secondly, I cut off the handlebar and saddle structure, so I can just place it in front of a chair, for a more comfortable seating position. Charging a cell phone with a "fast" USB car adaptor, 2.5A at 5V, I only need to lightly pedal at 30 rpm. At 100 rpm, with effort, I can produce 20A at 12V. I've paralleled a string of super caps on the output, and a diode, so constant rpm is less important, and also allows me to take shorts breaks charging only a cell phone.
@jamesbrown21633 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@tripleaaakollektiv870 Жыл бұрын
pls upload it! if it is still running
@Tore_Lund Жыл бұрын
@@tripleaaakollektiv870 I have it in a corner of my workshop. I still consider it worth keeping, in case of an emergency. I should probably make a video about it.
@matakaw42874 жыл бұрын
I tried a recumbent exercise bike that had a fancy display with multiple programs which simulated a course. It monitored heart rate and even displayed output power. I could easily produce 50 watts for half an hour at which time I got bored. I also want to mention a video I saw recently of a man who developed an Archimedes screw generator in Japan. I think they are being mass produced there. I'm wondering if you may have seen that, Mr. Murray-Smith. Great video as always, cheers.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
yes mate I did - it was what inspired my own Archimedes screw stuff - I talk about the Japanese version in this vids
@easy_s33514 жыл бұрын
Imagine pro-cyclists like Froom can deliver about 400W during those 30 mins, producing over 6W per kg bodyweight. The green gym started using exercise machines that produce electricity back in their gym 2008, which must have been quite a success because nowadays they sell those machines.
@cjackfly4 ай бұрын
Smart @@easy_s3351
@overunityresearchchannel4 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea Robert may I recommend that you use a treadmill motor as a generator instead of that one you will be very very pleased with the output I have tried this and promise it won't let you down :)
@WallStreetinWallStreetLLC4 ай бұрын
Hey, maestro, can I ask you if we can multiple the pawer with few extra car alternators connected with chain?
@frederickbowdler81696 ай бұрын
Very nice neighbour and a great generating set.😊😊😊
@paulbrouyere17354 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the many times you made me thoroughly laugh. Even if stuff doesn’t work efficiently, you’re genius in reconnecting stuff in the minds of many of us I believe.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
awesome mate because that I all I am interested in doing lol
@rogerbarton4974 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking along these lines, but I'd use a spring to hold the dynamo pulley against the flywheel to compensate for highspots due to eccentricities in the two wheels. It looked like you were pedaling hard, so maybe the dynamo was placed too tightly against the flywheel, introducing friction.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
yep - probably - build one with your refinements - it would be awesome to see
@rogerbarton4974 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering I'm not able to do a proper job, but using an air-horn compressor (12volts, 15A, permanent magnet, DC motor) as a dynamo with a ratio of 6:1 between the bike flywheel and rubber wheel fitted to the motor, cranking by hand I was able to exceed 20 volts (no load) and a no-load current > 10 amps. Using a halogen headlamp bulb as a load it produced about half brightness. I reckon if I could increase the pulley ratio to 12:1 it would light the bulb to full brightness without breaking into a sweat pedalling.
@richardharries55514 жыл бұрын
I've been saving my exercise bike to do just that, but as I haven't got the oomph to peddle no more it also makes a good clothes holder...
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol - indeed it does
@joohop4 жыл бұрын
Challenge Yourself Earthling
@shanealexander99524 жыл бұрын
I pull the battery out of an old drill and tape the trigger down (that puts it in generator mode (if it has a diode blocking back current). Then chuck up anything, pullys, sandpaper disks (sidewase also) . The hard part is mounting the drill but automotive hose clamps with rubber inside work. Chuck in anything you like. I even went the extra step of taking apart the battery so I could have a quick connect for the wiring. Funny, only one of the batteries was bad as usual. Bypass the diode to run the drill, Hook the output to a 12v usb adaptor from a car (9-20v). Old weedeater drive shaft do well for driveshafts. Don't forget the diode if you are going to charge your car battery, in fact I double it just in case. I have also adapted a speed wrench for the chuck (really, the diodes).
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
nice tips mate - and I get the message about diodes lol
@RoadRageLive4 жыл бұрын
Try a motor from an old cordless drill. I had a cordless set including circular saw, drill, jigsaw flashlight and reciprocal saw that I purchased in the 90s. The batteries are long dead but the motors are all good. I used the circular saw drive and motor on my first wind mill. It provides 7volts and 200 milliamps in normal conditions. The drill drive end would work well and it's transmission would help to increase the speed.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate - I will
@philipvernejules99264 жыл бұрын
....a comparison between mesh gears and belt and pulley gears can be given here . Belt and pulley offer a simple clutch mechanism by the adjustment of belt tension. Also driven wheel has same spin direction as driver wheel ... It might be of interest to try a few different approaches you mentioned as ways to produce electricity from that exercise bike .
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
nice points mate - I like my vids to be clear and about one thing - but I wish I had said that now lol
@zakkasprzycki6 ай бұрын
Take apart that flywheel it has magnets inside as the breaking . Like the increase resistance
@ryanlebeck2594 жыл бұрын
Is there a video on bearings and pulleys for the mechanical alphabet that I could reference?
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
not yet mate - but I will make one for sure
@joohop4 жыл бұрын
Should Power A Small TV / DVD Combo Bless Up Earthling
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
for sure
@asabovesotabelow2 жыл бұрын
How does one research the "really go all out, ring coil + magnets" thing.
@infinitelyuniversal23904 жыл бұрын
I think Gym equipment should be sources of generating electricity, so when you pay for Gym membership you get a discount for the amount of energy you produce! This would be alot more motivating!! Nor will you be wasting your own energy on nothing besides trying to be fit!
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
absolutely they could run a fair amount of lights on all that sweat
@philipvernejules99264 жыл бұрын
...there's the joke about those who drive to the gym to go onto the walking machine . if they walked to the gym then they'd realise they'd received their exercise at the entrance and could then turn around and walk back home. It's the social part for many folk and especially women , but we can't overlook some neighborhoods are unsafe .
@infinitelyuniversal23904 жыл бұрын
@@philipvernejules9926 and that is why i dont Drive, i believe in using my own energy all the way!
@philipvernejules99264 жыл бұрын
......it's always been in back of my mind that the quick fit rim driven bike dynamos required a lot of extra work to light up the 6 volt globes. Whereas I remembered being surprised at how little effort was required on a Raleigh with a hub dynamo .
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
I loved the hub dynamo
@creepingjesus51064 жыл бұрын
Peloton+ bikey thing: £lots; power generation - 0.0W RMS JunkBike: £very little; power generation - how hard can you pedal and for how long? 😉👏 I quite fancy this myself, I must admit, it would keep me in some sort of shape over winter.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
those pelotons - crazy! Such a lot of money. Basically if you are going to use an exercise bike you might as well generate lol
@Dirigibleful4 жыл бұрын
Love the video - only one criticism, you've got the fire door propped open 🤣
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
it's the only door! we are too small to worry about preventing the spread of fire and if there is a fire our worry is escape in which case propping it open makes sense
@Dirigibleful4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering I was only joking anyway lol it just tickled me seeing it propped open was all :)
@tebbi674 жыл бұрын
It could be that the flywheel offers a better solution for generating electricity, if one places magnet there, a high rotation speed and mass inertia brings it with it. Thx for the Video your ideas are very cool!
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol - I am sorry I laugh mate - but the next video is just uploading and I do exactly that - seems we are on the same wavelength lol
@bilibong01014 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert have u tried a washing machine waste water motor as it's a parmanet motor and output nearly a 100volts
@stevetobias48904 жыл бұрын
They are one of the ideal motors for this project. Rob only uses what he has on hand to provide proof of concept.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
I haven't mate - if I get hold of one I will try it for sure
@pauljayschrenker89464 жыл бұрын
If it's setup right, and you're not too out of shape, should be able to do about 1/3 HP for a good couple hours. Outside of efficiency losses, a person pedaling should be good to drive up to 250 watts of load. (One could peak somewhat more as if sprinting, but I'm talking more along the lines of sustained.) In some way or other an exercise bike is just taking a resistive load (usually mechanical friction, although some use a fan of sorts and push air) and converting it to heat, so making a modest generator out of that could put that same energy to better use.
@prophecyrat29652 жыл бұрын
You could even set up a system of pulleys to puñl weights wich then could increas the mecahnical power
@breezer17884 жыл бұрын
Funny. Thanks Robert.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@dkdyker4 жыл бұрын
Robert make a small to large gearing system to make to motor spin faster and give out more. Alternatively place a 24vdc generator from a car on it and charge a battery:) nice vid
@Scott_C4 жыл бұрын
I really liked his add magnets to the fly wheel option. Would really take advantage of the "fly" part of the wheel.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@cjackfly4 ай бұрын
Would the friction make pedaling impossible? I have a nice Schwinn exercise bike I'd love to try this with.
@Z3n1tHL0rD11 күн бұрын
I will use the one i am currently building to charge my lithium power bank in my van conversion while i am doing power hungry jobs like watching computer monitor 32 inch tv and powering computer too of course, so that will be 500watt output approximately, not much chance of getting bored either then
@AndreaDingbatt4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I need this!! :)X
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@pulesjet4 жыл бұрын
Well Damn. This one is going to look Store Purchased. LOL Another job for the lowly Hover Board Motor I think. Using a Hover Board motor you could friction drive it and be done. I would expect some 30v at like 10A.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
yep - I would think that mate
@vylbird80144 жыл бұрын
I repeat what I told you before: Automotive alternator. It's cheap, it's easy. Needs a little current get started, then self-sustaining. Regulated to 13.5V output regardless of speed, and can be modified to alter this voltage.
@captainprototype1874 жыл бұрын
VylBird. Interesting, Ill have to look unto that. sounds super useful for off grid living!
@vylbird80144 жыл бұрын
@@captainprototype187 The typical automotive alternator has a rather nice regulation system. The power is generated on the stator, with the field produced from an electromagnet on the rotor. That means the slip rings only need to carry the field coil current, which is much less than the generated current in the stator. The alternator also includes electronics, the FRM, that monitors the output voltage and adjusts the field coil current to maintain constant output voltage. Older alternators have a simple analog VRM hard-wred for the 13.5V needed to charge the battery. Newer ones are digital and tie into the ECU, which can make repurposing them trickier. But you can always remove the VRM (with a large hammer, sometimes) and build your own, which allows you to set any output voltage you want within reason. The field coil consumes some power to run, so the alternator won't actually start without a source of bootstrap power.
@paulricelli552025 күн бұрын
🟥 Starts at 1:40
@daniellow4262 жыл бұрын
You reminded me of some homesteaders that converted a washing machine to run off of a bicycle. It was a mechanical connection not electric. I had the thought that in effect they were, in replacing the motor and electrics, making a far more efficient use of their peddling. I don't know exactly how to say it but it seems to me that if we can replace that electric 'Work' with mech. 'Work' then we should be able to convert that peddling 'Work' into that same electrical energy. Shouldn't we? I see in this and other videos that this does not seem to be the case. I do not get why that is.
@rishi31864 жыл бұрын
Great Video Sir.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Mailianb10 ай бұрын
Now what if you slapped magnets all over it? Wouldnt it produce more?
@loisquinn-ortiz86694 жыл бұрын
Always fun to watch
@BoB4jjjjs4 жыл бұрын
By the time you charged a battery you would be knackered! Yeah, I know it is just to demo the idea!
@lnwolf414 жыл бұрын
I do understand that all these videos are proof of concept projects, Would of been nice if you had built is so it could of got at least 5 watts out of this contraption, instead of 1/100th of a watt.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
Mate this is not a proof of concept - it's really just a bicycle dynamo - Most folks who asked to see this where only interested in where to attach the dynamo - and that is pretty much what I did. To be honest and I don't mean to be rude here - so please forgive me if it comes across that way but, basically, if you want to have a 5 watt version - build one all I am showing is how easy it is to do just that - the rest is up to you really
@reeread4 жыл бұрын
I love it, thank you
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it
@chipheadnet4 жыл бұрын
Your getting absolutely nowhere with that bike :P
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
I had better pedal harder lol
@CrownJewelzMusicGroup4 жыл бұрын
Do the coil version..pls
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
or you could
@CrownJewelzMusicGroup4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering i dont understand makin coils m8 ur the champion
@fallknight54054 жыл бұрын
Man you giggle a lot lol
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
I find the world a funny place lol
@111kenni4 жыл бұрын
get fit so you can watch eastenders - what a concept!
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol - indeed
@olivierroy13014 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a vesion of it with some axial motor if you have time, to improve the efficiency. If not then it's the simplest way to have a working geberator, nice. Only I wonder what it would be for someone who don't have access to a working motor. Maybe he would use an old bicycle and some copper coil he found in a tv, with microwave oven magnets. . That would be interesting. ***Edit*** I didn't watch until the end before I comment... But my point is it is not for everyone and the diy axial motor would be. And there's an electronic part that is interesting for someone who needs to do such a project.
@stevetobias48904 жыл бұрын
Putting the magnets in an alternating N S N S N etc around the flywheel and using small but heavily wound coils on a ring that sits a few millimetres from the magnets and connected in a 3 phase configuration before being rectified and capacitor smoothed (using a supercap). This is what I am working on using a coil wheel and magnet ring I got from a front loader washing machine.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
mate - you make a good point and have me thinking for sure
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
curses - I want one of those! - where did you get it?
@twestgard24 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t this a scene from Soylent Green?
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
I believe it was
@twestgard24 жыл бұрын
Robert Murray-Smith The good news is, if the power grid collapses, not only will we have something to eat, we’ll have power to cook it.
@minutemanhomestead72144 жыл бұрын
great work keep it up
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@dgpreston55934 жыл бұрын
Twizzy: "Wash Me"
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol
@JackLv.04 жыл бұрын
I've thought about this,thank you for make it in action
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@blueschild61 Жыл бұрын
That looks like the most uncomfortable riding position I've ever seen.
@ralphsammis73304 жыл бұрын
Please be more inclusive/technical w/ battery projects. Very excited/motivated by zinc/bromine, asked you about sequestration = go look at previous video? Could not definitively find that video. Stuck!
@dgpreston55934 жыл бұрын
Ralph, I may be able to help. ZnI here, not ZnBr, but similar....
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
ok mate
@cottonwoodcreative2 жыл бұрын
i would replace the tensioner with the generator fab an adjustable mount and be done it would look alot better than this
@junglegymbali51366 ай бұрын
I gotta take a car generator
@colleenforrest79364 жыл бұрын
Ah... You're going to do with that bike what I think you're going to do with that bike, aren't you?
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol - well I guess that depends on what it is you think I am going to do lol
@xspotbox44004 жыл бұрын
All electric and fitness bicycles could be used for electricity generation, perhaps they can't power large batteries, but they sure could charge mobile devices. It's mentality of people and industry, manufacturers just don't want to bother with practical applications like that because there's a grid everywhere and electricity is very cheap. But this is not rational, pedaling like that should produce 100 watts, that's enough energy to power night lights for entire night or it's simply vested as heat.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
as a manufactured product that would be awesome - but they don't do it - so it is up to us I think
@Scott_C4 жыл бұрын
It bothers me that power generation isn't an inherent option when purchasing one of these. The Peleton could power itself, don't use it and it won't work. 😄
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
absolutely mate - it would be a piece of cake to include it
@Scott_C4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering Especially since those Peleton bikes cost $2K USD . 🤑😕
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
@@Scott_C really - good lord!
@colouroboros99934 жыл бұрын
but you wouldn't be able to run a bike with that amount of energy
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
no you wouldn't lol
@captainprototype1874 жыл бұрын
A Disappointing 1.5 volts. Never seen such an inefficient motor. there are matchbox sizes motor that deliver 12 to 24 v easily. I am holding on to a few bicycle dynamos when I happen to see them. Anybody know an interesting project for them, maybe connect them together in a wind project?
@JackLv.04 жыл бұрын
No energy wasted
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
for sure
@hissst694 жыл бұрын
Lol, great fun :)
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
for sure mate
@samanthajayjones26454 жыл бұрын
Almost as good as the one from 'Soylent Green'. Hey dont get no ideas about recycling people. You are not allowed to do that yet.
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
curses they would make excellent batteries lol
@tripleaaakollektiv870 Жыл бұрын
can i exchange you for my uncle
@hirnlager4 жыл бұрын
lol fail xD
@stevetobias48904 жыл бұрын
No it is proof of concept. Rob only uses the motors he has on hand. As he said, magnets and coils would work also. There are motors that would work much better and more efficiently but Rob doesn't have them on hand as he has said in previous video's
@hirnlager4 жыл бұрын
@@stevetobias4890 its fun ;)
@ThinkingandTinkering4 жыл бұрын
lol - I might see if I can get a better motor for sure