Demoing for one of my subscribers how I use a belt sander to put a convex edge on my knives. I get great results using this method. Very clean refined edges IMO. As always, I appreciate you watching.
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@belly9962 жыл бұрын
*This is exactly what I needed for trimming the edge of oak boards **MyBest.Tools** I also used the disk to round edges while building an oak - walnut cabinet.*
@glytch59 жыл бұрын
nice job, finally someone who doesn't try to use like 5 different belts and 3 strops. You only need one, maybe 2 belts, and one, maybe two strops, or buffing wheels. I like it man.
@labrat735711 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the video. I used to sharpen using a similar process to you, removing the burr on end grain of hard wood until a toolmaker at my work explained that when you rip off the burr you leave a small flat/jagged section on your edge. He said the way to proceed was to use finer and finer belts to form new burrs at each grit. the burrs get smaller and smaller as the grits get finer until you are honing the edge. I believe it helps. Also Lee Valley mylar honing belts are very special.Bye.
@brianchester21228 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a similar unit from HF. Waiting for belts I ordered online. I am anxiously waiting to get started on making knives from blank stock my father in law gave me many years ago before his death. He was a Ball Brothers aerospace machinist. I believe the stock he gave me was from scraps at work. I appreciate your time in making the video. Mountain Bubba
@edgedweapon8813 жыл бұрын
Very simple but effective system you have there! Thanks for sharing this with us Christian!
@richardkicklighter120211 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I had real interest in the belt you made. I was pointed to you by somebody else using exactly the same machine. The wheels will probably crap out before long due to normal wear. You can keep the crown in the lead wheel by beveling the center approx 1.5 degrees each side on a lathe, or use electrical tape to raise center.There are lots of places to get belts. Norton seems the best. I really like the Triax. I use those to finish with Super sharp video, dude Thanks a million
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am always open to trying new sharpening methods. My sharpening style always changes. For example, I use a spyderco ultrafine benchstone and a strop as my preferred sharpening method now. The belt sander is still ideal for larger blades. I always find sharpening very relaxing haha
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
Well, the "proper" angle is all preference as to what you use you knives for. Since I have been sharpening for quite a few years now, it is very easy to maintain a *constant* angle, and it is easy to know what angle works best for each specific knife. Sharpening is just something that you have to develop a feel for.
@samurai16513 жыл бұрын
You're really skilled at sharpening!! Thanks for the great vid
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@knivesandstuff Thanks. After doing the initial sharpening, stropping is all I've had to do for maintenance so I'm sure your blade will be no different. Cant wait to test it out!
@virtuovice13 жыл бұрын
It's neat! I need a place like yours. Thank you for sharing!
@amirdepaz8889 жыл бұрын
i must compliment you on your keep it simple method, with such great results.Shapo !
@LiveLoveTry13 жыл бұрын
Razor sharp! I could never do that. Thanks for sharing.
@ewtoutdoors13 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for sharing. Take care.
@cadrician13 жыл бұрын
Really nice, love your method, thanks for sharing!
@jacksnotty23184 жыл бұрын
FYI. A belt sander only gives one result. A convex edge. They’re not capable of anything else. Good video. Nice job.
@moonolyth3 жыл бұрын
I'll be upgrading mine soon have had for 3 yrs now. The sander that is. You may try turning it on its side you get lots of control.
@TheLazySpoiledKitty13 жыл бұрын
I need to get a little sander like that :), would help alot with some knife projects and sharpening like you did!! Great job btw!!!
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
It is all leather. I measured the appropriate length and skived the ends of the leather down to the appropriate thickness and glued them together for a seamless fit. I am still using this same belt had held up amazing.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@gavkoo Hell yeah! Its super fun to just go around cutting stuff once your done. Its great to actually use a sharp kitchen knife. Unfortunately everyone in my house is scared to use the kitchen knives I sharpened. Oh well more fun for me :)
@flashgordon62389 жыл бұрын
I've started to convert my knives to convex edge as well. Good video! The leather belts are on Amazon, but I see that you made your own...
@troy569013 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for sharing.
@RockinRedneck0910 жыл бұрын
2 things...one, Lee Valley Tools has AMAZING belts FOR KNIFE SHARPENING! All I use...love love them. 2nd, it seems, at least from the video, you dont hold the same angle throughout the whole pull through. which causes different angles through the length of the blade. This Video was posted a while ago, so you may not do that anymore. I've been using a convex edge for a couple years now, with the same machine from harbor freight I might add. Just some thoughts, again I highly recommend those belts from lee valley. Good Demo as well, Good Luck man, Stay Sharp!
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
I currently use bark river white stropping compound on the belt, and I have used this for sharpening 1095 and it turned out excellent! As good, if not better results than this with the 1095.
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
Consistent angles, light pressure and proper burr removal. Don't hog off more material than you need to. I rarely sharpen on a sander any more because it is just convenient to touch up on a stone in a few seconds. Sander does work great though.
@monabo13 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@ArtistBlade197212 жыл бұрын
Very sharp bro. Good job.
@Idle_Koala10 жыл бұрын
Great video! I used to LOVE knife sharpening on whetstones and such. But ive been out of the sharpening world for a while now and dont have enough time to use whetstones anymore. This looks like a great method! Saves time and you still get a very sharp edge! Do you have any compound on the belt strop?
@bigbubba50379 жыл бұрын
You technically don't have to use any compound, but if you do, it will certainly help refine the edge. I was using Bark river white stropping compound on this belt.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@aHippieWithKnives Thanks! I have a Razor Sharp edgemaking system, and it produces some awesome edges! I got it used and the grit wheel is well. . . out of grit. I always find sharpening somewhat therapeutic. Fun to see what type of edges you can get. I just saw that you make videos. . . Subbed! Thanks for stopping by!
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@themediocrepirate They do rock! This model was the more expensive of the two, but I had a coupon so it came to around the same price as the standard model which I think was around $50. Has tons of uses!
@490912504912 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your video and especially the reply to 101skindog..Maybe there was a full moon !
@gravediggermaxvabeachva12 жыл бұрын
just bought one today bubba. orders some fine grit belts from supergrit thanks for the nice video
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
There was no bulge because I skived the leather to shave off layers as to make the whole belt seem as though it is just one continuous seamless belt. Essentially it would be exactly as you mentioned in your last statement. . . assuming we are thinking on the same level right now.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@knivesfishwild Yepp, this model was normally $75 but I got it cheeper with a coupon. They had a cheeper model that was $50. Still looked pretty decent.
@ChinookOutdoors13 жыл бұрын
Nice system, Harbor Freight rocks. I need to look and see how much a sander like that costs...
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
Yeah haha I have no idea on a hoof rasp. For my de-burring stick I like just a medium hardness wood. You can even take a simple branch off of a tree, peel the bark and let it dry, and it makes a perfect stick for de-burring.
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
Yes. In a very general sense convex is like an apple seed shape and concave is like a dish/bowl(hollow).
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@knivesfishwild Thanks, buddy! This machine was only around $50 US and the belts were super cheep as well. If you ever have the chance to pick one up I really recommend it! Thanks for watching!
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@sleek555 If you don't know what your doing and don't have the appropriate grit belts, then I wouldn't recommend it at all. This thing removes metal so fast that I wouldn't use any grit below say a 600 if you are just convexing an edge. Very light pressure and a constant angle and you have a razor sharp knife. If you do it right you won't heat up the edge either. I 100% recommend it to the competent user.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@aHippieWithKnives I personally don't think that the concave edge created from the grit wheel holds an edge as long as the convex. Deburring wheel works great though! What's better than getting paid to sharpen knives :)
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@dakdak88 Well worth it IMO! Tons of uses besides sharpening knives.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@TheLazySpoiledKitty Thanks Casper! This thing has tons of uses! Great investment if you ask me. Thanks for watching, buddy!
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@LiveLoveTry Of course you could, it just takes practice :) Thank you for watching Hillary!
@tueulator11 жыл бұрын
Great Vid!
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have made some leather 1x30" belts for someone in the past, but don't remember what I charged. If you want to send me a PM I may consider selling them again for a reasonable price. I actually use 4-5oz leather for my 1x30" belts. . . . minimal stretch and fairly stiff. Much cheeper for me to make my own than buy surgi sharp belts.
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
Actually, leather belts for sanders have to be made differently. Sections of the leather belts have to be skived (thinned) overlapped and glued in order to create a seamless belt. So no fiberglass tape used as it would cause a large gap in the leather when it stretches.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@edgedweapon88 Works great! Plus the belt sander itself has tons of uses. Thanks for watching Keelen!
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@auradud3 This model (the more expensive of the two) I got with a coupon. A great machine! Awesome power and well made. I removed the compound with a felt/cotton buffing wheel that I mounted in my drill press. You can buy 1X30" belts for sharpening online. I got mine from usaknifemaker. H.F. sells belts but they are only 80 and 120 grit. The sander comes with those two grits as well. If you need some assistance on what to look for Just shoot me a PM and I'll help you find what your looking for.
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
I purchase my belts from usaknifemaker. I purchase the NORAX belts. As an FYI the grit size is measured in X increments. The lower the number the less abrasive.
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
@gravediggermax Glad you enjoyed it!
@knifeman112211 жыл бұрын
That's a good sharping
@southernfryedyankee12 жыл бұрын
Great video, how much would you charge to make 2 or 3 1x30 leather belts? Or could you explain how to do it. I would imagine by making the leather belts yourself its cheaper that buying the surgi-sharp belts. What OZ leather do you use for your belts.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@ignemV thanks. A little boring, but hopefully some people got something useful out of it. I appreciate you watching.
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
I got it from Tandy Leather Factory. Their vegetable tanned leather is perfect for strops.
@Thoma5912 жыл бұрын
Any assitance where you purchase your belts would be very helpful...thanks!
@dominicanrepublic25495 жыл бұрын
Thank you gracias amigo
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@millsdixon I think I forgot to mention. I shot this video once before so I may have forgot a thing or two. I made the belt myself. Pretty darn easy and it was better than paying $15+ for one pre made.
@Laszlomtl2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@traderjoes Sorry I forgot to mention in the video. I actually made this belt myself.
@knivesandstuff13 жыл бұрын
good results.. you shouldnt have any trouble with my blade.. although I doubt you'll need to do more than strop on the bat.
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just type in "knivesandstuff" in the search bar. You'll see his videos right away with that.
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
I made my own leather 1x30" belt, and if by "wax" you mean compound, then i use bark river stropping compound.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@ewtoutdoors Thanks. I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@Simplicity16511 жыл бұрын
Where can you get the large pieces of leather that you used to make the wood handled strop..?? Great video.. Thanks
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@cam131313cam Tons of ways! My methods change constantly too :)
@wrongmower12 жыл бұрын
great vid, thanks for posting, saw the belt sander at harbor freight, where can you pic up extra belt and that leather belt strop at ? :)
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@troy5690 Thank you for watching!
@essexmirageknives198912 жыл бұрын
Also would like to know that type of machine that is please ? Good video and interesting too !
@gorodph11 жыл бұрын
What glue did you use for a leather belt? Is it a special leather for strops? And which side of the leather do you use for stropping?
@gorodph11 жыл бұрын
How did you make teh leather belt? Is it just leather or a leather glued on top of old sanding belt? I am thinking of making one or two for my small beltsander.
@gqixkaes11 жыл бұрын
with practice comes perfection go with a lanky or smiths or gatco guided sharpening systems they are cheap and help with the learning curve (pun intended) and my tip would be to take it slow sharpening takes alot of time when your first start
@KyleLeeWoyote11 жыл бұрын
I have a little 1x30 belt sander and belts on the way. Any tips for a beginner in the belt sander sharpening world?
@Greggg5711 жыл бұрын
I need a system that has a jig to hold the blade at precisely the same angle all the way through the sharpening process. The Lansky system is what I use. I just don't know of a powered jig-like setup. Don't waste any money on a powered sharpener called the ChefsChoice. It only makes a mediocre sharp edge.
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@virtuovice Thanks! I appreciate you watching, Wako!
@gqixkaes11 жыл бұрын
also when i place the knife on a stone or anything i check if my edge is touching by sliding my fingernail towards the blade and if it catches the edge its to shallow
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@samurai165 Just have to know the important parts like removing any burr and you can get some amazing edges. Thank you for watching!
@wrongmower11 жыл бұрын
just got the same sander, how did you rig up that spring action on the pully at the back, not the large on or the one with the black knob, thanks for your help :)
@gravediggermaxvabeachva12 жыл бұрын
question i sharpened 3 knives today.....worked fine.....got shocked a few times. used 220....400...600...600 and cork polish, now i have a question. i see you reach back on right side and push something to release spring pressure to replace belts, mine has big spring loaded screw with handle i have to unloosen each time please advise thanks
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
Read through the comments for more info, but I made it myself.
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
Who said *concave* edge!?!?!?! It clearly says *convex* which is the exact opposite of *concave*! Thank you very much for pointing out how much you don't pay attention.
@brianb.28948 жыл бұрын
Nice job Bubba. I think you could probably shave with that blade.
@wrongmower11 жыл бұрын
odd, I have that spring but I cant move it as easaly as you do, guess I got to check it out a little better, do you use the belt tension on the other side ?
@TheStormReef12 жыл бұрын
how do you maintain the proper angle
@EDDYJM0012 жыл бұрын
Could tell the name of machine you are using? Thanks a lot.
@surehello12 жыл бұрын
does this method take the temper off the blades
@millsdixon13 жыл бұрын
Where did you pick up the leather belt?
@bigbubba503713 жыл бұрын
@tyronebiggums3 Thanks!
@outdoorzone12 жыл бұрын
Do you use any honing compound on the leather strop belt?
@outdoorzone12 жыл бұрын
have you sharpened and blades with 1095 steel? If so how did it turn out?
@williamgillespie239211 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the leather belt to go on the sander?
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
@fishercz20 Thanks for watching!
@bigbubba503712 жыл бұрын
I certainly appreciate you watching :)
@tonywright55108 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me about that sander? It looks like one of those Harbor Freight Sanders, but it's not green, the motor looks way bigger, and those are some nice looking idler pulleys. Flat and not radius like the plastic ones on the HF sander. Does it have a disk on the opposite end of the motor?
@roughroosterknifesharpenin55318 жыл бұрын
did he not say at the beginning of the video that it was from harbor freight?
@brianminkc10 жыл бұрын
that deburring stick... did you buy that? or is it just a piece of lumber or something?
@BillRodgers26 жыл бұрын
Love his quick reply
@BryanColliver8 жыл бұрын
where did you get the sanding belt, leather belt and the deburring stick thank you
@bigbubba50378 жыл бұрын
+Bryan Colliver knifemaking.com for the abrasive belts, I made the leather belt, and the deburring stick is just a piece of soft scrap wood.
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
Yepp. Just busy
@Mr.56Goldtop9 жыл бұрын
Is there green compound on the leather belt?
@robertbrandywine8 жыл бұрын
+seattwa He says in the video that he removed it.
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
It is already spring loaded. . . I just pulled it towards me
@bigbubba503711 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by the belt tension on the other side? The tracking knob?
@SuperVaporman11 жыл бұрын
Isn't convex a curved outwards edge? a concaved is curved inward such as a hollow ground edge, I believe. Potato, potatto it's all confusing before I have my morning coffee.