Convoy real range and efficiency test! Hyundai Ioniq 6 v Tesla 3 Model 3 Long Range v BMW i4 40e

[@Longsnowsm]

The RWD 18" wheels variant of the I6 is supposed to be the "efficient" version. The other variants with AWD and larger wheels are not very efficient.

[@akf2000]

Really appreciate the amount of work that goes into these videos. The editing is always top notch.

[@RSEV]

Much appreciated!❤

[@kpsher367]

Totally - I've been struggling to find time to create my first YT video.

[@TB-up4xi]

23:05 for reference I have a 2023 RWD LFP Model 3 - I drive a mix of 1/3rd each of 70-75mph freeway, 30-50mph highway and start/stop city driving. I have averaged 11.7kWh/100km for my first 1200km (750 miles) so far - normal driving, at the speed limit, temps ranging from 0c in the morning to 16/17 in the afternoon. That's 5.34 miles per kWh in the single motor config.

[@commuterbranchline8132]

That’s excellent efficiency!

[@michaelcollier8768]

Pretty good efficiency! On our AWD 18" wheel Ioniq 6 for that kind of 1/3 driving our efficiency would be around 13. I imagine the RWD Ioniq 6 might make it to the low to mid 12's. Too bad in Canada Tesla pricing and financing is significantly pricier than Hyundai.

[@thecremeegg]

The 19" wheels on the BMW have a 10% effect on range so take that into an account. I have an eDrive 40 on 18"s and can regularly get 4.0 miles/kwh on long journeys. I test drove a Tesla before I got the BMW, and the BMW is more comfortable, handles better, is quieter and is much easier to use basic functions whilst driving. The Tesla is marginally more efficient but it's a worse "car"

[@RSEV]

The i4 is my favourite one to drive. Be good to get hold of a selection of i4 on different wheels and convoy test them!! If you can arrange and let me know what day I need to turn up to drive would be great 😉😂

[@gypsyemperor7535]

Man bought the wrong car and trying to justify it 😂

[@marcusbiller867]

It costs 50% less

[@thecremeegg]

@@RSEV Hah sure, you're welcome to get in in a test whenever

[@thecremeegg]

@@marcusbiller867 Wasn't aware my car was £90k, thanks for letting me know

[@NO3V]

Should always mention how comparatively naked those non-Teslas are without options. Maybe we should define a default set of things a modern car must have (seat heaters?, memory seats? glass roof? ADAS? keyless go?) and state the price including those "necessary options" instead of starting price.

[@badhairday_247]

360 degree camera ‘Sentry’ mode recording whist parked or in motion hardly ever gets a mention but priceless for peace of mind.

[@Jimmy23VR5]

I can't speak for the BMW but the Hyundai is the top one. There are no options to fit to it. It has all the things you mentioned. You'd actually have to upgrade the Tesla to advanced auto-pilot to match the Hyundai as it has auto lane change and remote parking/summon which the Tesla, as standard, does not.

[@Paul-Thomas-LifeCoach]

naked Tesla! They come with all the items you mentioned, if I'm not mistaken! There is no option list to tick like BMW, if you want a door handle sir, that's extra!!!

[@NO3V]

​@@Jimmy23VR5 Eh. WHERE? Here in Germany that parking package is a 1400€ option on a base Ioniq 6. You can easily add a five figure sum in options and if you want the AWD you HAVE to buy the 8200€ Techniq package. Looks like there are less variants in the UK, but wireless charger, glass roof and a few other things INCLUDING YOUR "Remote Smart Parking Assist" are still part of a 3500 pound package..

[@Jimmy23VR5]

@@NO3V I'm talking about the U.K. And I didn't say it was a base model car at all. I said it was a top spec one. You also get the First Editions in Germany. Same car and spec as this one.

[@thorsev6960]

SOC displayed in EVs is often non-linear so it makes more sense to calculate the real world range using average consumption and usable capacity.

[@omelvold]

True. However, can you compare the average consumption reported by different manufacturers? The only way to find the real consumption is to look at the number of kWh added (gross) divided by the GPS distance driven in eg. Google Maps. Yes, it's complicated. And Tesla knows this...

[@marcusbiller867]

Of course it's linear... If you drive at constant speed all the time and the consumption stays the same it will go down linearly. Of you drive 50mph and then 150mph on another stretch, then yes, it will not be linear. What sort of dum answer is that...

[@marcusbiller867]

@@omelvold This is not the consumption - this is cost. Cost=\= consumption. The only thing you have to measure for consumption is kWh at the beginning - kWh at the end according to the BMS. Delta / distance. Tesla is pretty good at that calculation and the distance is pretty accurate, below 1% error

[@thorsev6960]

@@marcusbiller867 nope that’s not how it works, demonstrated multiple times by Björn Nyland and others.

[@omelvold]

@@marcusbiller867 How do you know that Teslas BMS is accurate? 🙂 Tesla don’t specify the battery size in any way, the trip meter is not accurate and they don’t count the consumption unless the car is in Drive. Which is OK, but different than most other manufacturers. Further, losses and energy used for battery conditioning both while driving and charging differ slightly between different cars. One of the reason for Teslas success is that their cars are best on paper. Therefore they made sure the EPA numbers were amazingly good, they silently used one foot rollout for 0-60 and an unknown constant for calculating the range that is presented in the car. Instead of using a less impressive, conservative estimate - like everyone else. All these little things.. BTW: I think what @Thor’s EV is referring to is that the SOC is not 100% linear because the voltage changes. Some are better than others.

[@ulyden1947]

I have a I4 edrive 40 with standard wheels. My consumption since factory is 4.16 miles/kWh Range is 335 on average. On longer trips a lot more. You should compare cars with standard tyres and efficiency should be measured when charging up on same charger on all cars. Here also preheating is included.

[@RSEV]

If someone can arrange all cars to be on same wheels and tyres, let me know where and when and I’ll be there to re-film it. Seriously, pls do try. With a days notice. It was the best I could get. I was offered by the very kind owner use of his brand new Ioniq 6 and rather than just film it on its own I managed to grab a couple other cars. Also thanks to very kind owners. People will always criticise over something but we did what we could with the opportunity and time that we had. I’m sure there will be another Ioniq 6 or bmw i4 on another day with smaller wheels to test…

[@bentaxelrod]

I really appreciate your testing. I would like to see the Ioniq 6 on 18 inch wheels which are supposed to have longer range tested next. My Ioniq 6 on 20 inch wheels in Australia gets between 280 to 295 miles at 100kph with and without hvac on and off at similar temperatures. That’s a lot more than I expected. All three seem to me to have solved the EV range limitations. While the sat nav works well, it does need the address entered in rather than by voice mode. I really like the Ioniq 6 ,but I would be happy with any one of the three.

[@keithhardman9914]

Yep I agree not really o level playing field the Tesla on 18in gets a big advantage over the other two cars. I have ordered an ioniq 6 and the very first thing I am going to do is put after market 18s on it. I surprised the reviewer struggled to understand where the efficiency of the aerodynamics of the car. I am equally surprised that Hyundai has gone to all that effort to make the car as efficient as possible and then put whopping big 20in wheels on it. One could argue that both the bmw and ioniq on bigger wheels are in fact as efficient if not better if it was a genuine like for like comparison. I will be getting rid of my Tesla model 3 for the ioniq and whilst I will miss the ease of the sat nav. I will not miss the constant fidgeting suspension and the invariable phantom . Having driven the Tesla for 4 years pretty much every day. I would say the myth of it being the very pinnacle of efficiency and technological advancement it just that a complete myth. Comparing apples with oranges as this review does perpetuates that north

[@bentaxelrod]

@@keithhardman9914 I would like to know what you think of the Ioniq 6 when you get it.

[@keithhardman9914]

@@bentaxelrod I have test driven the ioniq. 6 my overall impressions were very favourable and tally with a lot of the reviews. Very quiet and smooth especially coming from the rocking house suspension of the Tesla info system antiquated and needs a serious update. I thought the handling was close to the Tesla but I had the sales man with me so couldn’t push it hard. I think it is generally set up much better than the Tesla for normal everyday driving. How much of the total mileage do you get to throw a car around these days?

[@michaelcollier8768]

AWD Ioniq 6 with 18" wheels . . . in Canadian MOUNTAINS we get around 310-330 miles of range at approx. 100 km/hr. Very very nice car. Just need a better charging network. Tesla's chargers rule.

[@bentaxelrod]

@@michaelcollier8768 That is great range. I live in the mountains in Australia which makes a difference to the range. Going down I get over 350 miles but the loop back brings that back to average 280-295 with the 20 inch wheels. While that is far better than I expected the 18 inch wheels obviously make a substantial difference.

[@lloydbugler5605]

You need to divid the charge you pay for by the miles traveled. That is the efficiency including charge loss!

[@Jaw0lf]

The one thing with the Hyundai is you can use Airplay or Android and the experience I have with my E Niro built in Nav is okay, but far easier on my Apple CarPlay. Again, a great show of how EV's compare and behave. Love these videos to show what can be done. Amazed how many FastNed chargers are there and great to see that again 20 mins adds 130 miles of range, ready for the next coffee break! It may be worth looking at these tests as how much battery was used also taking into account the size of the battery pack. As you say smaller battery using less percentage must mean higher miles per kWh.

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

you can't precondition the battery if you use airplay or android auto though.

[@milyrouge]

I love the way you review. After driving electric for a while, this is the way you think. Far too many reviews on other channels review EVs from an ICE-centric perspective. I get it, most EV buyers are coming from ICE cars, but a couple of months' experience with an EV and you focus on different things. Well done!

[@zurrasp0]

This is not a really fair comparison. The wheel size of the Model 3 is the smallest size available while for the i4 you’re using 19’ inch wheels instead of the efficient aero in 17’. Also the M Sport packet in the i4 is less efficient that the standard sport packet.

[@Jimmy23VR5]

Andrew here, owner of the Ioniq 6. Great video. Thanks again for letting me part of it. It was a long day but lots of fun!

[@RSEV]

Thank you for being part of it Andrew! 🤝

[@jonathantaylor1998]

And thank for you 'loaning' Richard your brand new car... you're a brave man...!! 🤣

[@neilconstable2544]

My EV6 reports exactly like the Ioniq 6. The app always shows a better efficiency than the dashboard. The last month has recorded an average of 4.56 m/kWh over 670.45 miles consuming 146.76 kWh and recuperation of 61.70 kWh. The dashboard figure varies from 3.9 to 4.2 over the same period. Whatever, it is still much less expensive than petrol or diesel would be......and much cleaner!

[@dominikhejl5748]

EV6 and I6 share technology. Hyundai and Kia are group as well as VW, Skoda, Porche, Audi...

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Great back-to-back, real-world comparison, as always, RIchard - you and the Team really do go 'the extra mile' to make these test as everyday-life as possible, which is brilliant for any potential buyers. Thank you 🙂

[@RSEV]

🤗 thank you

[@omarkhan8181]

Another brilliant review & video. Keep up the great work!

[@pauljuntunen3451]

The Ioniq 6 & BMW i4 are both on larger wheels in this test: with smaller wheel options, their efficiencies would increase.

[@IverKnackerov]

Are you really going to place an order for your new car, and then tell them to take off the wheels and replace them with a smaller set? At extra cost to you? No. Soo it’s irrelevant

[@RSEV]

If someone can arrange all 3 cars on same wheels, tell me where and when and I’ll be there to do the test again!

[@kennycasillas901]

​@@IverKnackerovthe i4 comes with 18 inch standard as does the others. A good comparison would be all on their standard 18 inch wheels or up the wheel size on the Tesla.

[@izo77]

​​​​@@kennycasillas901I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the EU you can spec the i4 with 17", and it's the only option without extra cost. Compliments to BMW for still offering that option.

[@davidm7237]

​@@RSEVyou were asking where the efficiency was on the Ioniq 6. It's the wheels, they lose about 60 miles compared to the 18" wheels. 18s are available in the rest of the world but for some reason not the UK..

[@brunocordeiro3306]

For me, this test is better then carwow ev test's

[@rogerstarkey5390]

All "Run to zero" tests do is risk bricking the battery. . Any driver who owns an EV should really simply take notice of the repeated warnings and (at least in Teslas' case) directions to chargers.

[@bshah4831]

In my i4 M Sport on 19 inch tyres on that M4 journey, return, I can get 3.9 miles per kwh but the journey westbound only is usually less. Your test is representative. Navigation is relatively easy for me on the i4 and it does the pre-conditioning and notifies me.

[@commuterbranchline8132]

Testing the Tesla Long range rwd will be very interesting. Tesla model 3 long range AWD now available new with zero miles from Tesla inventory in the U.K for £45,990. My heart goes out to you Richard as an EV car dealer.

[@Honda_Hooligan]

I always wonder how specialist EV dealers get on, what with Tesla being so dynamic with their pricing.... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@SvikDK]

That would be REALLY interessting, since there is no Longe range RWD. Just standard range ;)

[@nigelhudson1948]

Just went to my Ioniq 5 and hit the voice command button and said "Fastned Chargepoint Oxford". The correct chargepoint was number two on the list. Didn't take my hands off the wheel. Not sure why you were having so much trouble with the Ioniq 6.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Is there a voice calibration mode?

[@TB-up4xi]

I'd like to see it try and decipher a Scottish burr / Irish Brogue. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hH62Y4mkeduYhpo

[@Volkspeed83]

Really good with the km stats. Thanks from from Denmark 🇩🇰

[@omelvold]

+1 from Norway

[@omelvold]

No one does these tests like you. Keep it up.

[@carlliddle2668]

Thanks Richard. Tesla calculates consumption differently, I believe when only in drive and moving whereas others start as soon as the ignition in on. Hyundai and Kia are simply odd. They seem to have three figures, in my Kia the dash consumption is seldom matches the trip on the infotainment and in the app the daily consumption is always crazy low. If you were reviewing ICE cars most would say it is pointless to look at the mpg displayed, the only true method is to measure the actual fuel over distance. You have a fantastic opportunity with your convoy tests to say after a test how long and how many KW it takes to get back to say 80% (which should be the starting level unless LFP). Stick with the usual sensible options such as battery preheating and then you can show a fair consumption figure. With some public chargers being 85p per KWh I suspect most people, even EV owners do not appreciate the charging losses on either DC or AC.

[@Sidewinder1009oli]

regarding the Hyundai efficiency - Richard said it under reported it's distance travelled by 4 miles? (are the tyre sizes set correctly?) maybe the app is the GPS distance travelled? I'm speculating though

[@mylesgray3470]

Good points. My Prius MPG readout on the display is always 2 to 3 higher than calculated at the pump and I bet electric cars are similar on that, reading optimistic numbers to give an impression they are more efficient than they are.

[@simond3751]

Hi Richard. A great video & amusing too. Thanks for collecting my Taycan yesterday. Cheers, Simon

[@timovneerden]

The “first-edition” Ioniq 6 is not the most efficient version of the Ioniq 6. Take away the 20" wheels and give it the 18", and it should gain some 50-70 km more range. The wheels take away much of the range because they are wider than the 18", so they have got much more frontal surface area. Also, switch for the RWD instead of the AWD, and you’ll hit 560-600 km quite easily, and then you’ll hit a 14,0 to 14,5 kW/100 km. Now, on a highway, you should use ECO mode and no i-pedal. This will disengage the front motor and you won’t have magnetic-flux losses due to the permanent-magnet motors. Tesla does not have this issue since it uses induction motors on the front axes (that do not have those losses). I’ve got the first edition myself, and averaged on my first 2800 km in the car (my daily car), it does about 16,7 kW/100 km, and the range is about the same as you: 485 km.

[@mattlau]

BMW and green is such a perfect combination. Looks so good out of all of them.

[@philhartley7551]

Does the Tesla navigation have chargers other than superchargers on it and that you can select? Can you preheat to those or does there have to be a supercharger nearby for preheating to work

[@RSEV]

Yes and yes can preheat for those too

[@Splashhusky]

I think the Ioniq 6 board computer shows the consumption without recuperation, and that the final number is shown in the app resulting in a lower consumption.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Needs a "KISS mode"?

[@barryf2018]

I have the Ioniq 6 First Edition AWD. My journey today, temperature 20deg C no motorways, showed an average of 4.58 miles/kwh on the app but the car never showed more than 4.1miles/kwh. Hopefully you can shed some light on this difference.

[@RSEV]

Yes that seems to be the common theme which we worked out at the end here. So why is Hyundai doing this?

[@barryf2018]

@@RSEV I guess the infotainment is unable to handle the live calculations involved and leaves the final calculation to the app……. It seems to be the same with the ioniq 5

[@robblly8112]

@@barryf2018 odd... either way it sorta sketches me out. seems like for some reason either the car can't handle the maths or there's some trickery with the numbers.

[@barryf2018]

@@robblly8112 from the video data the app efficiency number appears to be correct

[@robblly8112]

@@barryf2018 alright well that's good. i wonder why the car can't handle it? maybe there's a fault in the mathematics of the car

[@robertmandl9326]

Impressive results for all 3 cars. By cost vs efficiency comparison this is yet another victory for the Tesla Model 3. The cheapest of the bunch with best efficiency and the most advanced software. The competition has come close by now. Im curious to see how the new Model 3, probably releasing later this year, will do.

[@ContraVsGigi]

That is not a very confortable car, also noisier than others.

[@markgwilt5180]

I haven't driven the other two but the Tesla is the most comfortable car I have ever owned. The seats are incredible

[@robertmandl9326]

@@markgwilt5180 While I like the Model 3 a lot - so much so that I wanna get one myself later this year - I have to say, in all fairness: yes, there are better and more comfortable seats in other cars. The current Opel / Vauxhall Astra for example has some very good seats, very comfortable and good for your back (certified). So there's that. That said, one still can rest well aboard a Tesla.

[@robertmandl9326]

@@ContraVsGigi This is only dominant at high speed - and while Teslas are fast cars the main idea isn't going fast for longer distances. At an average cruising speed of 130 kph the noise level is, well, normal. Aka not bad.

[@markgwilt5180]

@@robertmandl9326 yeah I hear you. I suppose you pick a trade off, Tesla has the efficiency and tech, BMW has the quality and comfort, then the Hyundai has the style and practicality

[@dalroth10]

A very interesting video and particularly helpful for me as all 3 cars are on my shortlist to replace the Hyundai Kona 64kW I have on lease at the moment later in the year, so thank you! I'm also going to be checking out the BYD Seal when it launches in the UK later this year as it looks promising. I think the Tesla Model 3 is the standout performer. It's not just the efficiency (of the older battery technology) but the value for money when compared to the other two cars. When you factor in the Supercharger network advantage the economic argument gets even stronger. It's not hard to see why so many people go for it, even if the current design now looks a bit dated. I'll be very interested to see what is done for the much rumoured facelift Model 3.

[@Shaolinof36thChamber]

The cost of ownership for a Model 3 makes it a no brainer. Great efficiency metrics.

[@waynephatg]

I'm not going to lie I'm a massive petrol head. I'm currently have a Hyundai i20n. In the early days I was never a fan of electric cars if I'm going to be truthful but the more I learn and the more I've watched this channel, the more I've educated myself. I would, without question, consider a Tesla for my next vehicle. I know somebody who had a model three and was involved in a serious accident on the motorway and because of the technology in the car this car it saved his life. That has to be applauded. I respect the technology and the Super charger network seems to be brilliant.

[@timwilkinson8023]

Excellent real word views and data. Thanks to all.

[@joeynessily]

@RSEV did you see ‘technology connections’ video on brake lights not working on the ioniq 5 when using regen? Can you test this in the UK on the Kias and Hyundais?

[@CWAC105]

The miles per kwh on the Tesla can be misleading. For the correct number you have to calculate the ratio of total miles covered in the trip navigation app and the real miles covered in the small trip information widget then multiply by the Wh/mile. I think the miles reported in the navigation app also takes into account the total energy used, whereas what is reported in the trip information widget is just the drivetrain

[@akf2000]

This is quite confusing but I've always been suspicious of the Tesla efficiency numbers.

[@CWAC105]

It’s the miles in the energy app under drive => rated vs miles in the trip information. If you drive at the National speed limit the first number is always higher than the one in the trip information. I think once it’s normalised you will find the efficiency will be very similar to the other two

[@voldar70]

Nope

[@RobertPuklin]

Not true, will report all energy consumed while driving. You can see in the energy graph that HVAC and aux consumption is being tracked. What it will not consider is stationary consumption, e.g. watching a movie white charging or Sentry mode.

[@CWAC105]

Of course in the energy app it reports all energy used while driving. That’s my point. In the trip information the Wh/mile number does not take into account all of that. No wonder they got fined in Korea for misleading about the range

[@TB-up4xi]

2:40 The 4.4 seconds is 0-100 km/h and 4.2 seconds is 0-60mph. 0-100km/h takes about 5% longer than 0-60mph because it's actually 0-62.5 mph.

[@ShawnGBR]

I'm wondering how much changing the wheel diameter to a smaller size would increase range, such as swapping out the IONIQ 6's 245/40R20s and putting on a set of 225/55R18s instead. Just that little bit of weight taken off, and the decreased rolling resistance.

[@neilattwood6227]

Will Tesla ever lose their mi/kWh crown?

[@maxflight777]

*unlikely isn’t it*

[@FFVoyager]

It used to belong to Hyundai - the 'classic' Ioniq 28 is devastatingly efficient!

[@johnross6314]

No

[@johnmoe883]

Tesla had 18 inch aero wheels on which makes all the difference. Ioniq 6 has 20% more range and BMW 10% more range with 18 inch wheels compared to the ones they were using. So Tesla has the least range in the real world. Also the light weight makes a big difference but it really shows in the car's quality. There's no magic like you make it sound. Another thing: who uses a car's own infotainment if Android auto/Apple Carplay is available? It's so much better that the car software is an extension of your phone rather than a separate device.

[@bigdi77]

Thank you for pointing that out people are over looking that

[@kevinashurst634]

You are correct, there is no Tesla magic, it's just science and maths.

[@channguyen3349]

😆

[@RSEV]

@John Moe - If you can arrange all 3 cars to be on same wheels please do so and let me know where and when to re-film. I made the most of the opportunity from a very kind owner to try his brand new car. I then managed to get 2 others so not just filming the Ioniq 6 on its own. You do better? This Tesla had the older smaller battery. I said that multiple times. Yet still v similar range. They are always the benchmark for efficiency. Quality on Tesla is fine. Better plastics than the Hyundai to be honest. And if you want to defend Hyundai software then you really do need to get a grip. It’s crap. Android or CarPlay available - but via a cable! Seriously.

[@RSEV]

It’s not magic at all, I agree. It’s better engineering and software. So yes science and maths. Hyundai achieved great efficiency with original Ioniq and Kona but Ioniq 5 and 6 lacking, same as Kia ev6 counterparts. They’re getting more performance but at big efficiency sacrifice

[@troypoynter8484]

What have Hyundai done. Best in class efficiency from their Kona and original Ioniq which were based on a fuel platform, yet the new Ioniq 5 and 6 are so inefficient. I drive my Ioniq 5 and Kona exactly the same. 1.5 year lifetime average for Kona is 5.1m/kWh, Ioniq 5 is 3.1. Did learn quickly that 1 pedal in the Ioniq 5 is the least efficient as locks the car in AWD increasing drivetrain loss (both on drive and regen).

[@RSEV]

Interesting to hear your long term numbers. Yes original Ioniq was super efficient and one of my favourite EVs as well as the Kona always good numbers.

[@petemaxfield7686]

Ioniq 6: 50% battery used = 37 kWh to cover 147 miles = ca. 4 mi/kWh

[@ramblerandy2397]

Wow..! Ioniq 6 has the Voice Recognition abilities of a VW BEV. It even does all the 'pick from this list of totally unrelated addresses to your request' malarky. I've had two years in an ID3 and by the time year three ends I'll have less hair than Richard. The next car is going to have good software interactivity. And the speed that Tesla prices are coming down it might be a Model 3.

[@binflydushy]

Have you got the newest software version on you’re ID3?

[@simondehaas8784]

The ID3 voice control for nav is a lot better once you have software 3. Fairly confident it could pick up Cheltenham station without too much stress. Still not Google quality though!

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@binflydushy I tried to get it from the service dealer a couple of months ago, but they were dead scared they might brick the car.

[@binflydushy]

@@ramblerandy2397 😂 lol ok, guess the instruction for the workers is still pending

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@binflydushy I know I shouldn't give up on it, but every time I've had a software update the improvements have been tiny, and almost not worth bothering with. I'll call them up next week and see if I can get anything done.

[@spikebmth]

Interesting review... I'm surprised the Ioniq6 is quite poor, not meeting expectations... Pretty sure our brick shaped Kona is about the same at 70mph, usually around 3.7miles/kwh, better if we hit roadworks etc! Was 4.2m/kwh from Blackpool to home last weekend...

[@FFVoyager]

I think it's those big wheels. They offer smaller rims (18in for other markets) and they should come with them here. Big wheels are just stupid.

[@bigdi77]

@@FFVoyager it is the wheels people are over looking that

[@FFVoyager]

@@bigdi77 I'm sure it is. Stupid styling over function - sadly a big problem with a lot of products.

[@spikebmth]

@@FFVoyager Yes, just watched a Kiwi review, where the 2wd with 18" wheels which has a WLTP of 381 miles, against the 322mile of the 4WD 20" wheels

[@Astke]

0.21 cd for ioniq 6 is only when it has smallest aero wheels and camera mirrors.

[@MarcoPon]

As always, great and very useful comparison!

[@marvinsamuels1237]

29:16 it’s a given that the awd version loses some of the efficiency. I’m sure the rwd version would show better figures, but lose out on acceleration. Another insightful video though. Nice work 👍🏾

[@mattb8734]

Loves these comparisons

[@MrSinnerBOFH]

Awesome test! Would be brilliant to see a Polestar 2 2024 on this 3-car tests of yours.

[@lknight5579]

I have an IONIQ 5 and I'd like to know why the app and the display in the car disagree. They always do. I wondered if it's because the more efficient figure takes into account the regen? Would love to know.

[@RSEV]

We’d like to know too!

[@bigdi77]

The app is using eco mode and the car starts in normal mode that’s why the range is different

[@lknight5579]

@@bigdi77 It's not that, there's an app and it shows you the energy consumption, my last drive says it was 5.15 miles/kWh, but the car said it was 4.7. The app says I used 8.67kWh and drove 44.73 miles. It also says I had 5.56kWh of recuperation. If I really had used 4.7 miles per kWh then it would have been 9.52 kWh used. Which is right?

[@lknight5579]

​​@@RSEVI have a theory. The efficiency on the guage cluster screen relates to the theoretical net battery size (eg, my IONIQ 5 is 72.4 kWh gross, 70.0 net, so here it would show miles driven divided by 70), the efficiency on the app relates to the real efficiency, ie miles driven by actual kWh). Reasons for this theory: my car scanner OBD software seems to suggest I actually have about 67kWh net pack and if I use that figure instead, I get the higher efficiency figures you see in the app. If I'm right, then I guess the logic is so you can accurately calculate the remaining range based on the figures visible whilst you drive. Eg, if I'm going 4 miles/kWh after using 50% battery then I can be fairly sure that if my driving style doesn't change then I'm going to get (70/2)*4 miles range.

[@toddlerandtwinsinatesla]

Great Work: You could try to calculate the 'relative efficiency' of the ionic by how many kWh they recharged (assuming linear percentage reporting)

[@ianjames3078]

Just looking at the i4 edrive35/40, perfect timing this video.

[@thecremeegg]

I have the 40, it's a fantastic car, definitely recommend. Drove the likes of the Mach E, Tesla etc and the BMW was just better all round

[@RobertPuklin]

That 2021 Model 3 battery has probably lost a few kWh to degradation, making the numbers even more impressive.

[@bigdi77]

To be fair the others have bigger wheels so it’s not that Impressive

[@noobystok]

​@@bigdi77 Two years old, smaller battery, and cheaper. I'd say all around it's still the best of the bunch but the Ioniq is great. Probably the only real competition right now with regards to overall value.

[@channguyen3349]

@@bigdi77 it needs smaller wheels since it is lighter. That is is also part of the efficient engineering. In the winther Tesla will win even more with its thermal engineering. 20% more efficient with a 2 year old car! Tesla is still 5 years ahead.

[@bigdi77]

@@channguyen3349 you can get the i6 with 18” wheels I don’t know about the bmw

[@pauljames2407]

Great comparison video

[@wiezyczkowata]

love those real range tests

[@theplgeek]

My old car, thanks for looking after it and selling it for me @RSEV !

[@AKA001]

What generation of Supercharger was it, I suspect it was a 120-150kw one. If it was a 250kw one, the Tesla would’ve charged faster. Why not plug it in to the same 350kw chargers as the BMW and Hyundai? Also no mention of the plug and play time saved on the Tesla. Gints issues with the non-Tesla chargers are very common and I have been caught plugging my car in, then the port locks, then the app doesn’t work, then I have to hang it back, only to realise that I need to open another app to unlock the plug… you get my drift. At a Supercharger, you plug in an charge.

[@RSEV]

250kw v3 supercharger… The fastned chargers are very simple just contactless payment but you do that before taking the nozzle. Only takes a few seconds

[@Curveball]

The guy at 10:11 on the timer looks like a Simpsons cartoon character come to life.

[@DiogoNeves]

Thanks for the video! One thing I don't usually understand is why use percentage to compare range since percentage depends on the predicted maximum range?

[@DiogoNeves]

To be clear you do it well here 😊

[@RSEV]

Cars can have hidden buffers etc but what owners see is percentage so whilst it isn’t always actually even exactly linear, it’s I think a sensible easy way to calculate what the car is capable of if you pro rata what % used to 100%. 100 miles on 50% = 200 miles range capable

[@DiogoNeves]

@@RSEV thanks! That makes sense as I think most of them have similar ranges too?

[@ArizonaPoet]

I'd like to see a transition electric that's analog for all except motive & braking points. Don't want to play with a computer while driving.

[@simonreeves2017]

Hi Richard and Team, very useful review, I don’t have a Tesla, but I can see why they are popular with people who can be bothered to do the necessary research. The technology they are based on is just way ahead of the pack, from the engineering to the all important software.

[@robjeong]

Thank you for demonstrating how close all three cars are being an 'EV'... confirms to me that I made the right decision on getting the vehicle that is NOT the most popular as I would like to know where my car is parked amongst the sea of TM3's at the shopping mall or anywhere for that matter LOL... and the most normal looking vehicle here is the most unique ironically enough!

[@Rabs73]

Nice comparison. Certainly looks like the Ionic 6 is doing something strange with its in-car efficiency display. I would have thought Hyundai would want to avoid issues like that in terms of its marketing? Looks like a nice car though! Ride is certainly firm on the 3 but I know our late 22 Shanghai built car rides better and is quieter than the earlier ones. But it could still be better. Project Highland in the spotlight!

[@MotoKingRob]

I own an i4 and have been in the other two and while their numbers are all very similar, you cant beat the quality of BMW as compared to the others (as I'm sure your next video will show). Voice command is perfect, sure its not as silly as a Tesla's but I have never had an issue with it, while I have had issues using the Tesla's for real commands. Plus the actual components, parts, displays, materials, far, far superior to both others. I guess the trade off here is, lose a tiny bit of range, pay a little bit more but be absolutely comfortable while driving (especially in regards to suspension and sound). That is a winning trade-off for me.

[@kennycasillas901]

On the money. I just bought the edrive40 with M Sport Package 19 in wheels. All the bells and whistles expect laser lights. I've driven the others. I drive max 50 miles per day. I long haul trip once every 2 years or so. There is no better car.

[@Salanan]

For the Hyundai navigation system you have to use the phrases it's trained on. "Navigate to xyz" won't work. You have to say "go to xyz"

[@deceptor99]

How much did the Tesla cost to charge compared with the others?

[@OutsideGamer99]

So what am i missing: shouldn“t the ioniq 6 charge significantly faster due to its 800v system ? At least this is what i saw in other videos concerning its charging curve. I am sort of a tesla fan boy, grew up with BMW and adore the i4 but the 800v system + the sort of similar specs and efficiency would pull me towards the ioniq 6.

[@graemekerr1297]

Great vid. What radios do you use between cars? Are they good ? Thanks

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

That's really very real world testing - thank you guys from Germany! Disappointed with the Ioniq6, not for me - it's also the use and the fun. If I am not so much into cars, it would be the Tesla for me - but because I like cars and like to drive, I would take the BMW no brainer.

[@darrenorange2982]

@RSymons RSEV Do you know or can you look up how many Kwh where added to the Tesla during that charge time?

[@misaelramos83]

Yeah I have the charge limit set to 80% on my IONIQ 6 and it always seems to stop at 79%. 🤷🏽 The I6 community is shocked by the tremendous efficiency handicap of the 20" wheels. I have yet another reason to hate oversized wheels. LOL. Once I figured out how to go NAV>POI>CHARGERS and set it as the destination it takes care of preheating beautifully. The car scanner shows it can get the coolant loop up to almost 110°F to then heat the pack. The efficiency of the BMW is due part to it's induction motor. The big H has permanent magnet motors.

[@successtrainingservices9937]

Why didn’t you have the Tesla charge @ the engineered Super Charger?

[@RTPeat]

Seems like the Ioniq 6 has the same quirky software as my second generation original Ioniq. The satnav is pretty awful - they’re using TomTom data, which is a mess in our part of Scotland, having farm tracks and footpaths marked as drivable roads. I sometimes have more success finding places using the app and sending the location to the car rather than finding using the navigation controls in the car. Efficiency wise again the numbers from the app seem to fit better than what the car displays - but it is worth checking whether the car is automatically resetting efficiency on the car display at some point.

[@Arpedk]

14:40, how did you drive without seatbelt and no annoying chimes?

[@elainebradley8213]

Living in Northern Ontario Canada preheating of the battery is always important but in winter especially so.

[@anguspaterson5713]

The fact that the dual-motor, all-the-toys ioniq 6 has the same efficiency as the single-motor i4 shows that Hyundai has done very well.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Don't know if the Hyundai does this, but the dual motor BMW isn't actually AWD but 4WD-- the front motor kicks in when it's needed and relies mainly on driving to rear wheels to conserve range. Which means cruising at highway speeds the i4 M50 is driving one motor rather than both. I wonder if the Ionic 6 is doing the same thing here-- cruising in RWD on one motor.

[@MikeMPharmaCyclist]

​@@BogeyTheBearYes it definitely does depending on what driving mode you're in. I think it will do it if you are in Eco and also Normal. If you are in Sport it never disengages. I really love the car.

[@craigc3259]

I purchased the 2024 Ioniq 6 and love it

[@izo77]

I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the EU you can spec the i4 with 17". You get better efficiency and range, but also better comfort. And the 17" are the only option without extra cost. Compliments to BMW for still offering that option. They're probably the only ones to offer 17" in this segment, even if it should be the standard option for electric cars.

[@cybergigafactory]

Great comparison! I would like to see this one again when the Model 3 Highland Model is out. Than all of them would be the newest model. Very interesting that all of them have nearly the same range.

[@simonhobbs9097]

Great video Richard, all very similar, just comes down to personal taste, Beamer looks great in green and definitely wins the looks competition and I assume the driving experience?

[@RSEV]

Bmw is my favourite of the 3 to drive yes. Tesla is the best EV all round. Ioniq is something a bit different

[@tubelator]

how can the % and consumption be the same between the BMW and Ioniq when bmw has a bigger battery?

[@mikadavies660]

Still struggling with a £55,000 Hyundai..... especially when it is similar in price to a really nicely specified BMW.

[@dannycph]

In 5 years the BMW design will still look good, The Ionic6 hmmm…. and second hand value not to mention.

[@SunshineVocals]

That's marketing

[@mikadavies660]

@Sunshine Vocals Good thing I'm an Engineer. Marketing is B.S. and I can see B.S. clearly enough...

[@mikadavies660]

@Danny CPH Forget 5 years... the Hyundai doesn't look good in 2023. To be fair to Kia their strange designs work... But Hyundai just looks wrong and the interior looks cheap.

[@mikadavies660]

@Danny CPH I personally waited months to see the first Ioniq 5 in the UK.... within 2 minutes of sitting in the car my attitude was £50k... ferk NO!! Nasty cheap , smaller than advertised interior and stick it where the sun doesn't shine horrible matt finish paint work...!@! Give me my deposit back. So no way am I falling for that dodgy looking aerodynamic Ioniq 6 exterior at BMW i5 prices. When I know how cheap the interior is actually going to be.....

[@StarryTemplar]

Did they add PEDAL on Steering wheel 2024?

[@apollian]

BMW has the better build quality, and is more quiet and is the best looking Car out of the 3.

[@nikelliot8105]

Fan boi time, Tesla for me thanks. Please also include the cost to charge Richard. Suspect not only is the Tesla the most efficient but also the cheapest to recharge??

[@JustWatchIt10]

The car shows about 10% more energy used than app, which is the same amount of charging losses when home charging. Could it be the explanation?

[@ryanturgeon9517]

Why didn't you standardize the tire size? You tried so hard to account for all other variables but left one of the biggest to chance. 18" vs 20" vs 19" wheels seems silly when all OEMs freely tell us tire size impacts range!

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Because Tesla has to win? 😇

[@RSEV]

We are not journalists. We simply was offered by a very generous owner to test his car. Rather than just go and drive it, we also managed to get hold of the other two (also from generous owners) to at least get some comparison. Could you arrange all 3 cars in the uk on same wheels? If you can, let me know and I’ll be there to re-film it!

[@UK-Cycling]

Tesla for the win. Great video. Best regards Martin

[@kennycasillas901]

Great review and as mentioned before when you do get a chance, all on 18 inch wheels would be ideal. Just a tidbit here. I have the edrive40 with 19in wheels and M Sport suspension and can average 4.4mi/kwh easily for 50 miles on dialy drive to and from work. I average about 54 miles per hour. Just food for thought. There are i4 forums where others indicate the same with just regular driving. No hypermilling etc. If we hypermile im sure 4.8 would not be out of the question.

[@aston-martin-internationalist]

That's great to know they can get to that level of efficiency. I'm just about to order my first EV and it's very much likely to be an I4 eDrive40 M Sport Pro which comes with those 19" wheels. I can't imagine that I'll get to your level of efficiency as I do longer motorway journeys so significantly less regen, but those shorter stop/start journeys I'd like to hope I can get close to that.

[@petesig93]

13:35 - My long term efficiency in the RWD Ioniq 6 is 14.3kW/100 km. The low aero drag should give it even better efficiency than other cars on a 110 kmh freeway run. Best is said to be to use regen level 0 so it can coast and get more aero benefit, but I have only used level 3 or auto on such trips so far. Finding chargers is really no great problem with the Ioniq 6. On the Home Screen select 'navigation'. Select 'EV chargers' from the menu, then choose either 'near me', 'along route' or other options. Voice mode can be used to refine the list. As you stated this is the first time you have even driven this car and I think your lack of familiarity with its control panel is really hindering the effectiveness of your test. You are familiar with the Tesla, but not with the Ioniq 6. Test FAIL mode.

[@jonathontoal]

what was the temperature outside for this range test? great video

[@dannycph]

18-19 celcius

[@alanwoollett2628]

Did you adjust the weight so all drivers weighed the same?

[@chargeheadsuk]

Great video chaps 👍⚡️🔋

[@paulstaniford8622]

Great video and certainly true around the cars software and overall experience. We had a Hyundai on loan for 24hrs while our car was in for a service. The software and mapping was not good enough resulting in us using our phone to locate postcodes that were then entered into the car. Was very disappointing considering when they need charging you really need an intelligent system to locate a charger quickly! Tesla still seem to be well ahead of the competition with their software and intelligence within the cars which make the customer experience far better than the other manufacturers.

[@thomasjacques5286]

Give me the Tesla in that BMW green. And love your videos.

[@BogeyTheBear]

You know, if you took an ICE car's miles per gallon and divided by 8 to create miles per _pints,_ it'd sort of align with an EV's miles per kilowatt/hour. A car with 30 mpg would get 3.75 miles per pint of fuel. One getting 36 miles per gallon would get 4.5 miles per pint. Those are similar numbers to EV vehicle efficiencies. An EV with a battery capacity of 80 kw/h would essentially be the equivalent of a 10 gallon fuel tank.

[@svengaefgen5909]

The Ioni6 only has a drag coefficient of 0.21 with digital mirrors and 18" wheels. The tested version should have one of 0.24.

[@RSEV]

Ah ha… so as tested the same as a bmw i4? I’m sure we’ll get our hands on one of those another day.

[@hashtag_fu]

Why didn't u show how much u charged into the Tesla to 80%? Hyundai had 33,04kWh BMW had 33,70kWh Tesla had ??? (should be around 28kWh, if the Tesla is as efficient as its on board computer shows, actually even less, cuz the battery is smaller)

[@jasonblair4057]

For the few extra $ I will take the BMW.

[@bullittuk]

That's 11k more than the Tesla at today's prices for less standard equipment

[@jasonblair4057]

@@bullittuk I rented at model 3 for a week and I know I would live with it with that poor suspension. With the price point this should be better. I have own a few BMW’s you get real luxury not perceived luxury because you paying a luxury car price. Over the long term the extra costs will be well worth it. I just tried a model y yesterday and it has improved but still has a way to go.

[@bullittuk]

@Jason Blair Drive a BMW M3 that does 0-60 in 4 seconds, and I think you will find the suspension is as stiff as the Tesla

[@ksmith660]

As others have said, the real test would be to see how many kWh are required to refill the cars back to 80%. That surely would be the true efficiency of each car. So next time Richard, please make sure you make a true comparison. In fact, you probably have that data, so please just publish it!