#1 Reason Updated Shayura's Wrath is Better Than ANY of Your Old Rolls

Returning weapon. New sandbox. New rolls. There is a massive thing about Shayura's Wrath that everyone seems to be missing. It is 100% better than any old roll you have. If you love the smg, you need to get a new one. I highly encourage you to get the updated version. I talk about all the new things it has and the most important thing it does.
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[@CoolGuyGames]

Thank you for watching

[@JeffreyMcLain]

Hell yeah brother.

[@brandonlesch2792]

So you don't want 100 recoil on the new one?

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

Thank you for making awesome content.

[@skintxisu]

No thank you man

[@CoolGuyGames]

@@brandonlesch2792 not at all

[@Taxis_]

Nadir Focus gives +2 range per shot. Also gives a 1.5 decreased accuracy cone size per shot both stack to 5x. Max is +10 range and 7.5% decreased accuracy cone size.

[@thatoneguy1741]

W info

[@lumas69]

Thank you!

[@fallout3iscul]

We out here on lunch son

[@JeffreyMcLain]

....Dad? xD :)

[@brlopez4]

same🙋🏽‍♂️

[@meatslag]

So real

[@justsomeguy8778]

amen

[@OrieohD2]

Oh cool. There’s me, at 1:34 getting my teeth kicked in 😂

[@imadumbassbtch1799]

lmao

[@spicy_xinger]

man i wish they let you track total lifetime kills on a per weapon basis. i hate how i lose my kill counter when i transfer over to a new version of the same thing

[@calebhenry3601]

That information can be pulled from the Charlemagne bot.

[@darthode]

Get to killing

[@Mr_Sinville]

I would love to have it be an option.

[@Viperacrx600]

@@calebhenry3601the bot sees different versions as different weapons altogether

[@UncleGace]

I have 4800 kills on my adept shayuras. I got it before foundry perks, and when I came back to the game, shayuras was gone😞

[@darkhelmet12e47]

I got 3 different godrolls immediately LOL. I am absolutely loving the new version. One thing you didn't spend much time on is how much more range the new one can get. Between keep away and nadir focus, shayuras can get up to 22 more range leaving room for other stats. This is REALLY important because it lets you run fluted barrel, making the handling feel amazing even if you aren't on titan which has always been a problem for me. I got a roll with fluted, light mag, keep away, KC, stability MW for a total of 78 range with high stability and handling. When I need the range from keep away, I have it bringing that up to 90, and after firing just 5 shots that goes to 100. Old shayuras was a range monster, new shayuras is a stat monster.

[@ElCapitanoNL]

It took me like 40 wins or something. Said to myself, 1 more win. Got a Corkscrew - Ricochet - ZenM - TtT - Range MW that last game.

[@Mr_Sinville]

RNG blessed me as well this weekend. 17 total games, 3 5/5 rolls, (1PvE, 2 PvP). Got them and got out because that map and the ability spam was obnoxious lol.

[@SeawardWind]

I just want the old reticle back…

[@Glucenaphene]

3:24 THE SHAYURAS MADE THE STRAND LOGO NEW DARKNESS ELEMENT CONFIRMED?!

[@spicy_xinger]

appreciate how CG is one of the only guys that religiously test the recoil pattern every time

[@joeyno137]

Well I'm still memeing w moving target w elemental cap

[@SighDUX]

Super rare roll. I never got it. On stasis the strafe is real!

[@ukemi-]

I was fortunate enough to get this roll. On behemoth with pks there is basically all the strafe speed

[@sportsguy23]

The matchmaking this past weekend was so bad i couldn't even sniff the lighthouse

[@oscarrivero3060]

Try getting it done on Friday if you are soloing. That always works for me, Saturday and Sundays can be a real pain.

[@dre160]

Better luck on a good map. I got the rolla I wanted but not without the expense of my sanity

[@F10n0]

I've always found that Trials is a crapshoot when it comes to matchmaking. For some reason I struggled like hell last week but this week i managed to barely drag myself to the lighthouse. Weirdly enough the games afterwards were easier... maybe it was the lack of stress at feeling that I NEEDED to perform perfectly.

[@Dynasty1818]

It's been the worst in modern gaming for years, nobody can convince you otherwise. It's awful. ATROCIOUS and doesn't work. Love having a .8 k/d in Trials and getting 2 blueberries vs a stack of 2+s about to enter the lighthouse. SUPER fair. SUPER consistent...

[@F10n0]

@@Dynasty1818 oh it's 100% wildly inconsistent. Not really sure what happened on the back end but I'm of the opinion that Matchmaking is a myth.

[@Mefirst.349]

This was the best shayura wrath video this week. Great info.

[@jpmorgan6146]

Always got the best reviews

[@likafoss]

I'm happy to see you also pair Shayura with a Discord Succession. I think the two really shine, and Cascade Point is a perk worth mastering

[@lorentzdriver4048]

My tunnel vision kill clip roll from when shayura's was released is still putting in work as best in slot for peacekeepers

[@SenrabMJam]

How can an energy slot exotic use shayuras when shayuras also occupies the energy slot

[@gaiusoptus4417]

@@SenrabMJampeacekeepers are an armor exotic, you seem to be confusing an weapon exotic

[@shrigma6163]

​@@SenrabMJamplease tell us what you think peacekeepers is

[@dankerbell]

@@shrigma6163 what do you think lorentz driver is? you don't have to shout out to the world that you missed the joke

[@shrigma6163]

@@dankerbell you bother to read the username of every person?

[@SilverScratch]

Got an adept roll with a ranged mw, Fluted Barrel, Flared Mag, Keep Away, and Kill Clip and its a monster. Even with no range from the barrel or mag options, it still reaches 101 range thanks to enhanced Keep Away giving +12, Nadir Focus giving +10, and an adept range mod for another +10. All while amping handling, stability, and reload thanks to Fluted Barrel and Flared Magwell.

[@lordkira9791]

That’s a rough roll tbh. SMGs need as much range as possible and zen moment really makes the gun much better on both inputs. I’m on mnk

[@jpmorgan6146]

Thanks for this one. Was running 100 and didn’t like it noticing the recoil pattern. Was just waiting for your review I’ll try it again

[@ericarmstrong8207]

I farmed plenty Adept rolls, and due to the Nadir Origin Trait, I think Dynamic Sway Kill Clip or Dynamic Swap Tap Trigger are THE PLAYS. Personal opinion of course

[@MountainSmell]

One thing the new one is missing from the older version are the ADS strafe speed perks (moving target and elemental capacitor(stasis)). Putting those together on the old version while using peacekeepers feels like sprinting while ADSing. It was a really strong combo which is gone now. Also now there is no accurized rounds which gave +10 range vs. the +5 range from ricochet, armor piercing, high cal rounds, and light mag. This was more relevant on a non adept old shayuras because you could hit 94 range with no adept range mod. On the new non adept shayuras, you can only hit 89 range with max range perks on the weapon. If you are really worried about this 5 range deficit, you can always just run keep away to make up for it. There is no equivelant to the maximum ADS strafe speed roll on the new version, so it is really the only viable older shayuras wrath roll at this point (or any combo with either moving target or elemental capacitor + stasis). I would have loved to see some discussion in the video about using shayuras wrath with peacekeepers on titan. This has been one of, if not the strongest build for trials throughout year six when it is paired with conditional finality or chaperone and void subclass. I understand why you may not have wanted to use smg + shotgun on multiplex, though.

[@lordkira9791]

would like to add that accurized rounds is much better than the current version's mag options. it's far better than ricochet rounds since this thing already is so stable with dynamic sway and zen moment.

[@Ozz465]

Lately been really loving these in depth vids, well done.

[@CoolGuyGames]

ty for watching them

[@tylerbellows5358]

So high impact reserves is doggo, got it lol

[@martinlavare1938]

I have a moving target, kill clip and I hope to jump in and get a new one...because of you. Thanks man...hope your recovery is still going well and you sound great!

[@BrianMarcelo]

Your video makes me feel a lot better about my Smallbore/hammer forged, ricochet, zen moment and harmony adept roll! Thanks man!

[@KingLeaps]

It’s a shame celerity can’t be rolled anymore. Still have my adept with tunnel vision and either celerity or kill clip

[@OthersideSparrow]

Using the DIM glitch when TFS came out, I have a Shayura adept with killing wind / celerity / alacrity

[@firebird4672]

Good video as always:) I was wondering a bit if you would ever do an updated "pvp guide" or something of the sort for new/returning players, or just people who struggle to perform, I see you doing a lot of specific things each video in the gameplay but can't really understand the why behind it, so a video on that or even a "what I'm thinking as I play" type video would be awesome :D

[@keithvillarreal9876]

I was thinking keep away tap for the overall stat monster shayuras with fluted and range into it

[@grimmSOL]

I still love my Moving Target+Adrenaline Junkie Adept roll for PvE, from when it first came out.

[@breandanfrancis4948]

Thank you so much for adding that part about the 5% DMG falloff wit KW super slept on I have a false promises with corkscrew/high cal/KW/zen max range with KW plus % boost to falloff I'm dueling pulses it's potent

[@Gamerforlife118]

Damm I was just playing with and against you yesterday I was the papa scorch titan. You played one hell of a few matches it was a honor playing with you.

[@Caydeson-1]

Yes I understand it's probably "better", but have you considered Denial

[@curtisnielsen1399]

When I first saw the perk pool i thought Discord cascade point would be fun to try!

[@MRabbitFrog]

I got very lucky with DSR+Tap on my first drop. Not adept, but it's ok. Will take it to IB and see how it goes.

[@ebas21]

DR is something I would've never thought of. Thanks for you analysis Cool guy the science guy

[@pimpernel666]

@CoolGuyGames just some feedback, the boxes you’re utilizing to give stat breakdowns and numbers with the perks, great addition!

[@turtle420.-.]

I tried around 20 different rolls, and ultimately found that for me personally Zen Moment/Target lock with corkscrew and high cal, with a range MW. I truly love it alot, it feels sooooooo good, it just sort of makes it consistent

[@domvasta]

it's annoying strategist is in the same column as repulsor brace, because I'd love to use it on my void Secant Filaments warlock with child of the old gods, since that procs devour whenever I pop my rift, getting rift energy back is amazing, which is why I have a whole bunch of "The Title" rolls in my vault, destabilizing rounds repulsor brace is amazing, but it's got poor reload time, poor accuracy and poor range, but it's great for PVE

[@thenummerzone]

i got over 4000 kills on the year 5 version of shayura so seeing it as the adept weapon this weekend i knew i had to get it. just got flawless last night and i lost a bit of sleep in farming but i got a completely juiced roll so it was worth it

[@Stardawg21]

Shoutout to that old Heating Up/Kill Clip roll, that thing snowballs hard

[@SighDUX]

I have 60k kills on the old shayuras and nearly 24k with the same old one in trials and I felt a significant and noticeable change after using the new one. The deterministic recoil is no joke. I put 500+ kills on the new one this weekend and I will be dropping the high kill count for this new one. Removing even more rng from my duel is huge! Thanks for the video, once again!❤

[@window9213]

My old roll was killing wind kill cip, picked up a keep away target lock roll and haven't gotten a chance to test it but heard really good things.

[@Avengedincorporated]

I feel like even thought you mentioned it, you're still overlooking Keep Away. Most people I've seen in trials, including popular streamers, are all looking for Keep Away to stretch that range out as far as possible. This thing is a beam. You said it yourself. I feel like the range is more important than keeping this thing stable. I would argue that Sway/Zen/Tap are more important on 720s than on 600s.

[@jeffknight6188]

I didn’t get the “god roll” I wanted this weekend, but I DID get a Discord + Cascade Point Adept roll. I thought the two would work well together, but I didn’t realize HOW good Discord can pair with Cascade, FULLY refilling the mag on a kill, I’ve shredded in 1 v 3’s more than a couple times already because of that interaction, SO much fun, highly recommend, really takes people off guard.

[@adobejacobe]

Great video! Personally have Zen + KC, Keep Away + Tap, & Dynamic + KC rolls -- absolutely blown away by how smooth the gun feels, but solo Trials was incredibly painful to grind through. 😅

[@thunder86440]

Which roll do you like more? I have the same Keep away roll and have the first with dsr instead of zen. Have yet to try them so I’m curious.

[@thunder86440]

And yes solo trials was horrible with the Hunter spam but well done to us for enduring and going flawless regardless!

[@adobejacobe]

@@thunder86440 DSR + Kill Clip feels incredibly consistent, I think you'll like it!

[@CollaateraL]

Played against you this past weekend! Love this vids as always have a good one bro!

[@FrostReach66]

I got a zen moment kill clip roll and I’m loving it. Not sure whether I want dynamic or zen, but they’re both great. Haven’t got a tap the trigger roll yet, but it’d go well with dynamic, but kill clip is just so good

[@ZavalasDeadKid]

Came for the SMG breakdown, stayed for the snipes. Nasty!

[@seandavis8831]

HE FINALLY UPLOADS 🙌 I know he’s thorough so they take a while, but he’s my favorite D2 KZbinr and I find myself checking often if he’s uploaded or not lol

[@EtotheFnD]

Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy

[@michaelhunt1573]

I got a quickdraw/celerity roll that never felt good and so I never used it. I just got a DSR & KC roll with 82 range and 69 stability and haven’t put it down yet. It’s an amazing weapon.

[@zekerdeath]

really appreciate the recoil pattern testing every video

[@jakubbercik6965]

Unending Tempest is also top tier, it feels amazing to shoot.

[@DonRobertoDeMuerte]

I’m so used to my old one that this feels like it veers off to the right. But I’m just glad it’s back, I’m hunting for a killing wind, keep away, and zen with kill clip.

[@Technizor]

Deterministic Recoil being the powercreep factor is really hard to take. Shayura is one of three flawless weeks I've had and farming it afterwards got me a 72 Range (before Adept Range) with KW/GT or KC and 89 Range (before Adept Range) with Perpetual Motion/KC or Snapshot, so I really don't feel like bashing my head in for another Adept drop. The new one is much less "all-in" on raw range stat thanks to it rolling with the three +5 Range mags in the pool instead of a single Accurized rounds, and having Nadir focus (+10 range after 5 hit marks) and Keep Away (+10 range) in the third column.

[@RNMCCLAIN]

My teammate RNG was atrocious on this dog shit map, I kept getting brain dead teammates that would just jump out in the open and get clapped. I seriously couldn’t get more than 3 wins. They seriously need to add a system if you are playing solo that if someone quits on your team you don’t get a loss on your card. Especially for a Mercy card. Go flawless on all other rotations…. Does anyone know when this SMG will come back into rotation?

[@Fatlumpthe1st]

Agreed, nothing is more frustrating than randoms leaving Trials matches that still have a chance to come back and it ruining the card It'll probably be about two months until it comes back into rotation with the 2 weeks of IB and other 5(?) guns in rotation

[@LuciTheRapDiablo]

I’m crying they took away perpetual motion/elemental capacitor, it was so much fun on Gemini Arc Hunter

[@budaluv4698]

Did Bungie ever say if they were going to implement the special reticle they gave Shayura a year or two ago on other weapons? Did they forget about this experiment they did? I'd like to see other weapons with this kind of dynamic reticle because it looks really good.

[@DrStunJosh]

I can’t keep asking Coolguy to make a Synchronic Roulette (which should be enhanceable IMO) review anymore since you can now get Keep Away + KC on Shayura v3😭😭😭😭

[@dominickdavila1836]

Your sniping in this state of snipers is insane, it like none of the changes effected you at all…

[@CoolGuyGames]

It's way more difficult now. And honestly I found that succession to be one of the few. It's legit the fastest ADS in the game with discord scalar + snap. It's like playing CoD with it.

[@rskzstealth1118]

I think I saw you playing yesterday! I was using touch of malice in anomaly.

[@gunstru]

For smgs it’s hard to move past moving target (and even some autos) that strafe speed is amazing since I play T-step lock and heavily strafe in gunfights but I got a KW KC and ZEN KC roll (non adepts) I’ll have to try out then (old one I used was moving target TTT)

[@soul7611]

I got the Hammer forged, high caliber, zen moment, tap the trigger roll with a range masterwork it feels so smooth and let’s me run high cal for the flinch it’s so nice

[@lordkira9791]

that's nice. i got one wit hhammer forged/fullbore, light mag, zen moment, kill clip, range mw (range mod). im on mnk so i use it with fullbore (hurting handling sucks but i got ophi so it's not as bad but i still should use hammer forged i think). that's my god roll but i would LOVE to try your roll since i never got that one for insane neutral game

[@ltitan9496]

bro love ur videos. i got adept with 78range zen + target lock is range good?

[@renbenen]

Mr. Guy, I am way compelled by your revelation about a more deterministic recoil. Could you point me in a direction where I could learn more about this being applied to weapons being issued, and what other weapons this might be happening to?

[@Alucitary]

Discord/Harmony is amazing for PvE and PvP. Requires changing up a lot of people's normal playstyles, but when you get used to it your combat flows so smoothly. On anything with Devour you can blow through content so easily. Just wish we could get some special weapons with the combo, right now there's only 1 and it's a shotgun.

[@Brakyura]

thank you for posting this on Tuesday coolguy 🙏🙏 joke aside imma get a new one but i still dont think anything is gonna replace my tricorn roll

[@AtlRopeGuy]

Perfect timing my guy, and I was curious if I needed to touch trials this season or not. Looks like after IB, I wikl

[@devoltar]

I love after how all this time, I can guess what you are going to point out just from the title. Of COURSE it's the recoil direction :D guess I'll be using my new zen/kc over the old, despite the reload masterwork ;)

[@okeoke4697]

Nice video. Thanks. I wish I could try Zen moment/kill clip but the roll never dropped out of 30... I just renounced to it. I got keep away + kc, dsr + kc, and a neutral but reliable roll: dsr + tap the trigger. Mh. This week Trials has been very boring. Awful campers. Bad MM balance. Tons of laggswitchers on console. At least I got some juicy stuff in the end. I should definitely stop grinding my ass off lol.

[@realCharAznable]

I'm still not a fan of deterministic recoil. It makes the recoil cone in the stat display completely meaningless. I don't like having to guess which is what, with no way to know other than literally testing every single recoil pattern, which isn't possible on anything other than actual crafted weapons. Case in point, I thought I had a good shiny Elsie's Rifle, had everything I wanted, but oh, turns out the only way to get the recoil under control is to have it at... 83. And it's gone now. I have no way to make that gun useable and I can never get it again. I've got 5k kills with my max range Killing Wind/Kill Clip adept Shayura's, which and I'm happy with that.

[@thepurpdoesthework]

Its funny cuz I tryed the old shyras a few weeks ago and it was harder to control than I remember then I got a dsr tap adept this weekend and it felt like I remember it feeling waayy back when I guess I aimed better? Idk anyways yeah this new one is nuts and Im a hc main 😂 I wanted dsr tap and I got it and its a dream also my first time getting the adept so very happy thus far.

[@beardbreeder5886]

I got a few rolls, my pvp roll is corkscrew, ricochet(I think), killing wind and kill clip/tap. PvE is a destab/disrupt roll, once I get it levelled I'm excited to see it work.

[@bootlegbison3758]

Feel like there could be a play for high impact reserves. Smgs have such small mags and I heard it has a play.

[@kenrocker7427]

Zen + target lock has been my main grind. I’m interested in discord or zen + cascade tho - just haven’t gotten one to drop yet.

[@gryphon123456]

Strategist with destabilizing Rounds and a warlock build using briar binds could be nice for a void build. 👍🏻

[@sn3akybm65]

I have a killing wind kill clipa and dsr tap . been loving the kill clip roll but ill have to try the dsr tap out also

[@AKSBSU]

On my second roll of this I got Corkscrew, Light Mag, Dynamic Sway, Kill Clip, and a Range MW. Ricochet Rounds would have been nice, but it doesn't really need the extra stability given I have Dynamic Sway Reduction and the Nadir trait.

[@lordkira9791]

with dynamic sway (or zen moment), you really really don't need extra stab. your roll has 52 stab even witout dynamic sway or nadir active. the thing doesn't need ricochet rounds. it would be a great mag if keep away but keep away is overrated on smg imo

[@lordkira9791]

Nice as roll. And yeah no need for ricochet when you got dynamic sway. zen moment would’ve been better though. Nice roll bro

[@ryanclune3883]

Been my favorite gun in the game since the OF one came out. Long live the king ❤

[@CNORYN]

It has a mini micro dynamic sway?!? That’s pretty cool, guy

[@CoolGuyGames]

for range *eye emoji*

[@spartancrown]

Great now I gotta go get more 😔

[@fredrikdegerstrom]

Did not manage to get one this weekend. My card was flawless, and I did not notice. But I have my old one. Favourite smg ever. 🤪

[@jpmorgan6146]

Don’t sleep on the non adept rolls if need be

[@adhirg]

did Bungie slowly phase out Heating Up or something? it’s one of my favorite perks and it’s barely available on anything these days. it’s even getting removed from a bunch of weapons!

[@GenesisDG]

Hey CG, How have you been feeling lately?

[@gamesux1590]

Got close to the lighthouse several times but no dice. I left 1 second too early and flawed my Persistence card on accident and just lost all motivation unfortunately. I did manage to focus a; Polygonal Ricochet Rounds Dynamic Sway Kill Clip Range MW So it's not all bad...

[@bradmerry1016]

I found it hard for my adept drops I only got 2 as persistence is my only method to get adept Smallbore, highcal discord destabilising rounds Smallbore ricochet rounds discord tap/harmony but I got regular keep away target lock and dsr kill clip - I really wished one of them was adept - the discord ttt is ok but my regular keep away target lock feels great

[@smoothoperator6551]

Omg i started the video but cant finish it yet. I need to know why its so much better!

[@Mad_Bullymong]

this gun was the only reason for me to went flawless this episode, 'cause ther's no real incentive for me to keep playing trials

[@Poopi_Culio]

Oh man, this would've convinced me to grind trials

[@greyklopstock7155]

See, my old one has Moving target and kill clip with accurized and full bore, along with a handling masterwork. So with Adept range I get damn close to 100 on the bar, and you can't get moving target anymore. Moving target is HUGE I feel for smgs cause that strafe speed is no joke. Especially on peacekeepers or stompees, a strafe scalar can make you just that extra bit more annoying to have to hit, which is why it'll always be a keeper. I got smallbore, light mag, discord, and target lock with a handling masterwork on my adept one this week. It's okay. I'm bummed I didn't get better perks, cause I really don't want to have to farm trials

[@danperkins4781]

Zen + target lock is just a god tier PB & J. It allows you to take fights in thst 25m range and compete relatively easily. It’s insanely fun, but you do need god roll near max range to really get the most of it Nadir focus is the cherry on top. Just makes Shayuras usable in duels it has no business taking

[@Spoooodyman]

Managed to snag a Zen moment Kill clip roll and I love it.

[@GlRTHQUAKE]

I recently got back into D2 since a hiatus that started at the end of Red War. I did a lot of pvp in D1 and at the beginning of D2, seeing this gun being run by everyone is insane lol. I got one that actually ended up being close to a god roll and used it once in iron banner before putting it back in my vault. That smg is the ultimate noob gun lmao, to the point I'd be downright embarrassed to be seen running it. Have we really gotten so lazy as a player base that we want pvp wins handed to us on a silver platter?

[@TheRealGotham]

My initial chest dropped with dynamic/tap my other two best were dynamic/kill clip/ target lock and my last one keep away with also kill clip with cascade as the alt.

[@chrisotoole82]

I got smallbore Ricochet Dynamic sway kill clip stability MW. It wasn't perfect as I would of preferred zen but good enough I couldn't be assed to keep grinding

[@DPMAN206]

Got one with zen/target lock but also with arrowhead/chambered…rip

[@Mkgaming252]

I got my igneous hammer adept and I can’t get it off it feels so good

[@razaiel3688]

I used a new one and im so sad ive gotta put my old one away for good, 11k kills on a quick draw killclip, but the new one just feels that much better

[@lordkira9791]

I’ve been trying out zen with kill clip and enhanced target lock. And I can’t tell if enhanced target lock does much for the gun. What do you think now that it’s been months since the guns release?

[@lucaseureka2998]

Good vid bro but his you got all those good rolls

[@willlindal2446]

Why use Shayura when Gnawing hunger exists? They have the same optimal TTK, with shayura’s offering one body shot of forgiveness over gnawing hungers 10 crits for the .80 In the range department gnawing hunger wins 10/10 times. Its range goes to 30 meters whereas the ceiling for smgs including shayuras is around 20 meter (I think 22 meters if you kill your stability for full bore and accurized). The only benefit of shayuras is that it can still be obtained and it has adept perks. But if gnawing hunger ever gets reissued, it’s over for shayuras For specifics on stats a god roll shayura (small bore, ricochet rounds, zen moment, kill clip, range mw) has - 81 range (21.78m) - 61 stability - 27 handling - 24 reload - 60 aim assist - 15 zoom - 25 airborne - 95 recoil My gnawing hunger which is almost a god roll (polygonal rifling, accurized rounds, zen moment, kill clip, range mw) has - 68 range (30.8m) - 53 stability - 63 handling - 57 reload - 65 aim assist - 16 zoom - 10 airborne - 54 recoil (can confirm feels like 100 with zen) Gnawing hunger can do everything shayuras does, but better. The only thing shayuras has going for it is obtainability for new players, adept mods, and deterministic recoil. If gnawing hunger ever gets reissued it will also get deterministic recoil meaning shayuras will only have adept mods going for it, while losing out on almost 10 meters of range.

[@lordkira9791]

Gnawing hunger lmao…that gun sucks

[@JMMinorSituation]

Any chance you'll go over your hunter prismatic pvp setup?

[@MidlanePapi]

What do you think of the returning iron banner rapid fire pulse with headseeker in the third column?