Which Catalyst Is Best for Choir of One? The Must-Know Interactions

[@CoolGuyGames]

Which one is your favorite?

[@Welverin]

Destabilizing Rounds, I like making things go boom. I don't like the idea of Onslaught on it, and Subsistence just isn't exciting.

[@RobRuckus65]

I like destabilizing rounds. Subsistence is redundant if you are running the autoloader artifact mod so will be better with a new artifact. Onslaught is good if you are trying to do higher dps though. I primarily use it as my main weapon when I have it equipped so destabilizing is nice for ad clear.

[@trevorromein14]

Were I still playing, it'd be Destabilizing Rounds. But as it stands.....I literally only log in to check eververse, see whats obtainable with bright dust, get stuff if I want it and then dip. I've been with Destiny since vanilla, I've finished the Final Shape, I've beaten the Witness and I have nothing left to prove. My friends long left the game and my last buddy and I finished the series as a "last hurrah", but nothing else. And with everything going down on Bungie.....I'm sorry, but I can't; I'm out and spending my time in FFXIV.

[@AttackBacon]

We're really splitting hairs here, but once this season is done I think Subsistence + Alloy is the play. With Subsistence, you don't really need to reload much when you're mostly in the ADS mode. So focusing your reload around the hip fire is what makes sense to me. That being said, I personally love the feel of Onslaught so much that I'm going to be sticking with that. I'm 100% with you on Handling being the stat, so it's going to be Fluted+Flared+Onslaught+SAS for me.

[@rogerhuston8287]

I like Destabalizing as well. Been playing with Onslaught the last couple of days, but I don't like it for ADS shooting. If you use it for high damage, then you need an ad clear in the kinetic slot. If you want to use this as add clear and sometimes burst, then detabalizing.

[@Legoleflash]

The way you SHOW what you breakdown is just the best man. The reload comparisons here are s-tier.

[@n3crobard]

Onslaught is amazing for shredding high health targets, but as a Warlock main I gotta say, Destabilizing Rounds procs Devour from volatile explosion kills, AND saves me ammo. It’s hella fun, and if we ever see a Destabilizing Rounds buff, it’s just going to get better. Sidenote: your deep and meaningful analysis is one of my favorite parts of your channel for both pve and pvp considerations here. Stuff like the reload option breakdowns here is exceptional content - THANK YOU!

[@timothymcglothlin4165]

DILLY DILLY

[@Cy4mp]

IT PROCS DEVOUR?!?

[@Sheep-7-101]

IT PROCS DEVOUR!?? Also, using this weapon with spirit of verity + void grenade = big booms

[@lycceto]

Onslaught forever. Despite having a decent handful of Destab/Repulsor weapons, I still don't like Destabilising Rounds. The hidden timer is probably my main gripe with it because I want my on kill perks to happen on kill and not on kill*. If they add a debuff to your screen, maybe I'd like it. (also, they should have stuck to having debuffs hang out on the right side of the screen. there's still issues with not knowing what's affecting you all the time and while part of that is you can have waaaay more than four buffs going there's still the thing where the debuffs have to wrestle for that position too and that sucks)

[@Whowho-r2b]

Onslaught with Gyrfalcons is amazing

[@Abomber457]

I'm gonna say this before I watch. I love Destabilizing rounds on this thing and I hope you did as well.

[@Abomber457]

You are amazing a describing how well each of those perks work. I'm gonna go try Onslaught now to see how much I like it. I originally just wrote it of because I didn't want to consume so much ammo. But you made it look a bit more appealing especially when you reminded me that Onslaught also increases reload speed. I think with my play style I'll still love Destabilizing rounds more. But I'm exited to try Onslaught later today.

[@joeyno137]

​@@Abomber457onslaught and gyrfalcon

[@jimmcmeen761]

Onslaught is overkill imo

[@Xenomorphenia]

Yep. Destabilizing Rounds is the way to go IMO... And remember, next season it's getting an ammo nerf.

[@oxsila]

@@joeyno137 The gun already cooks man onslaught just isn't necessary lmao

[@secret1566]

Barrels and mags are always the hardest part with crafted exotics sometimes, especially something as unique as this. I appreciate the nice breakdown and comparisons, sounds like I will be defaulting Destabilizing rounds for general play and subclass synergy. That being said I will likely look into Onslaught at some point, especially after the ammo nerf to see just how tight a pick it is

[@not_parker]

Always happy to see a video from you. Hope your health situation is going well ❤

[@jimmcmeen761]

Been using it a ton but people will really realize how important reload is when the artifact mod is gone. So far my favorite has been fluted barrels, flared, destabilizing rounds. I only use hip fire for some champions and if I’m in a pinch

[@JustCause2Fun122]

S/O to coolguy for stealing Soulja boys “word for word, bar for bar” saying literally word for word, bar for bar 😂

[@Paxoniseki]

now that destabilizing rounds can self-proc volatile explosions, instead of just applying volatile, it feels fantastic. especially on gyrfalcon's hauberk, sometimes it'll cause a volatile explosion from the chestpiece while also applying volatile to nearby enemies, which the original volatile explosion detonates, and it just has absolutely massive explosions while also dealing crazy, crazy single target damage. might be my new favorite weapon over graviton lance

[@chip7522]

I can’t say I like one over another. It’s just customizable for whatever content you seek out to play. Depending on the closeness of the activity, I might use destabilizing in a tight master lost sector, and subsistence in Gambit. For example. Thx for getting nerdy.

[@TheOneInYellow]

Raking up 10,690 kills as of this post with Choir of One, and completing a number of end-game activities (including GM Nightfalls and numerous Master Flawless runs), it is my favourite weapon in the entire history of my ten years playing the Destiny franchise. Via this video, and noting that I am a serial reloader and only use hip-fire when necessary, I may change my mag from Alloy to instead Flared Magwell. However, my current build is: - Fluted Barrel - Alloy Magazine Destabilizing Rounds - Short Action Stock Despite the small usefulness of Subsistence (which will be more useful once the Auto Reloader artifact mod leaves this season), or the sheer output damage Onslaught can bring, and noting the incoming ammo reserves nerf, my extensive use of Choir of One informs me that Destabilizing Rounds is the best retrofit mod in my opinion. It's hyper ammo efficient, using void volatile explosions + radiolarian fluid pools to maximise AOE and kills with few shots, is immeasurably useful. With my Exotic Titan Mark Stoicism using Spirit of Stars, I further get restoration benefits to my Prismatic Void Titan, and Spirit of Severance accentuates my melee explosions via Consecration slams which are further buffed with Knockout (and Knockout's health benefits on final blows). (My hope is to get Spirit of Eternal Warrior with Spirit of Scars on my Stoicism, but I've yet to be blessed by RNG from either Pale Heart or Xur 😢) It's been a ride to enjoy PvE content with this build, and I'm glad that the three retrofit mods are all excellent depending on your personal playstyle!

[@BaladanRua]

YOOOO! " Hip-fire go brrrrr..." lol! You are absolutely correct in that everything depends on your PLAYSTYLE.....not the weapon itself. Versatility for the win! Great vid😎

[@ameeryoussef]

Love you Coolguy!

[@CoolGuyGames]

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Destabilizing 100%. Once we're out of this artifact season/episode and no longer have built in subsistence and also gets the reserve fix/nerf I just don't realistically see myself using Onslaught. It's something I'd much rather have on primary anyways, and maybe MGs. There's just too much going on with Destab on this gun and it's radiolaria that I can't see myself really going for anything else.

[@The_Laser_Kittens]

I love your insight on weapons

[@jlin4606]

No quarrels with me man, we think exactly alike. Destabilizing with fluted, Flared, and SAS. Slaps!

[@AtlRopeGuy]

Thank you!! Glad to see the testing. Even dumping the mag, I’m going stick with flared for next season. (And onslaught)

[@DamadaTattoo]

I honestly thought destabilising rounds would be the way to go with my hunter Gyrfalcons build, but as soon as I tried onslaught I was like wooooh boy! 😅 We’re doing this now! 😂

[@Brad-ut1ro]

0:12 you gon learn today! 😂

[@PurePancakes113]

Good to know I'm not the only person who thought of the Justin Wong clip lol

[@FlaccidHouse]

Fantastic analysis as always💪

[@Prando34]

Great analysis as always, thanks

[@ShadowChaolan]

I need to say this 2:05 "THATS SOULJA!!:

[@mortalexo103]

Yeah. I need to get in there.

[@Seven-Lights]

And this is why I’m crafting multiple rolls, because as far as I consider, Onslaught just makes it a different weapon entirely, but has major demerits for the game play, but Destabilising Rounds just allows you to use it as a primary weapon in most content.

[@Rawho323]

That free devour on prismatic warlock on destabilizing rounds is too good imo

[@grimmSOL]

Too good? Sure. If you have fingers, though, getting Devour active on Warlock is the easiest thing in the world to accomplish.

[@4trfargo]

great video as always, Ill have to sign with destabilizing with this one, onslaught just isn't worth it to me with this ammo economy.

[@PoeMojoStudio]

2 frames ain't worth the ease of use flared magwel gives you

[@kristophershephard7359]

Hunter Gyrfalcon Onslaught Nuff said

[@liquidpaper1349]

Looking for this. It's two catalysts for the price of one.

[@ProtsmanPanther]

Titan Second Chance Controlled Demo Also nuff said

[@kristophershephard7359]

@@ProtsmanPanther oh I like this

[@stop_this_train8772]

Incredible video!

[@SkyCrimson]

The Vex Storyline maybe shit, but their weapons are usually fire.

[@makaveli3189]

I use it more for range it’s easy to sit back and shred with it. Destabilizing rounds.

[@samslara]

With choir I've run into a unique situation, what to pair with it in my kinetic slot. Choir covers so many bases that many kinetic primaries are just a weaker version of choir. I've ended up with using double special with some armor mods to get special ammo more frequently.

[@CoolGuyGames]

on prismatic use a strand weapon. Use the fragment that has nade finals give volatile to choir. Melee finals give unravel to strand

[@zeroshadowzs]

Depending on what I need for the activity, I just use an anti champion weapon in that slot. My favorite choice rn are chill clip critical anomaly or deliverance for overload/unstop, or under over/ KT multimach for barrier. I usually round it out with an lmg for content with tons of ads, or a linear for boss/ major bursting if choir is low on ammo (rn im using the suspectum with chill clip to synergize with stylish executioner/ GPG)

[@frostmourne1986]

Imo which catalyst you use is highly dependent on which class you use.

[@cmdrmeldoc59]

the reload speed thing is very interesting. Yesterday, I tried it with a friend, where he had alloy and I had flared. Started shooting the last bullet at the same time, timed by a grenade, and measured how long it took to fire another shot after a reload, in hipfire. I won, by a good margin... as we continued firing in another test, I extended my gap every time, basically getting to be a full rotation ahead of him eventually. Yet, here you directly show us that our testing was somehow wrong, and I don't get it. We didn't have Onslaught procced or anything, as that's normally hard to test against each other with, and we did it in the Enclave. My testing shows that Flared Magwell was substantially faster, I reckoned it was because the animation multiplier scales with the reload stat, being percentage-wise faster the faster your "base" reload is. CoolGuy, can you tell me why I'm wrong here, or what I'm doing wrong? Because we didn't use frame-measuring and could still see a remarkable difference between the reload speeds, but the other way around...

[@belliebun4529]

Destabilizing rounds is a powerful add clear catalyst on Titan with controlled demolition.

[@joeliolioli4156]

The autoloader on the artifact absolutely does NOT hurt subsistence, if anything it makes it better, nearly never needing to reload at all unless you hipfire dump into a bug target. The autoloader works alongside subsistence and activates parallel to it

[@Welverin]

They told us that reserves are going from 250/375 to 200/300. Sure it hurts, but I don't think it will really move the needle, unless you were dead set on using it as a primary weapon. Even then with all the ways to get special I'm not sure that will be unviable.

[@ayufever1978]

i like onslaught, but i went back to destabalizing rounds. the ammo economy is pretty good but it is just going to get worse next season. i play getaway artist prismatic warlock, so the destabalizing perk does more for my build.

[@pirate_duck4985]

Dammit! Now I dont know 😄 I had so many buggy issues week 1 I gave up, said F-it I'll wait until everything is available. I was pretty set on Destabilising using it with Gyrfalcons Hunter, Nezerecs Sin/Astrocyte Warlock & probably Precious Scars on my Titan. There's so much synergy to be played with!! But it seems A LOT of people are sold big time on Onslaught for the massive DPS output. I know there's some changes coming & some funny interactions atm but damn. Gunna have to try out both now haha.

[@Burning7668]

I was using subsistence but reshaped into onslaught later on. I have to say that I'm missing subsistence because combined with the artifact mod you literally never had to reload...

[@codygrinnell8676]

Onslaught for my hunter... As I don't need to worry about Volatile!! Best of both worlds

[@Dteezyt05]

Destabilizing Rounds, unless you are using exotic gear that gives you volatile rounds, then go with subsistence.

[@NemesistheBoss]

Destabilizing rounds

[@gustavoh.70]

So true

[@WaterGates1]

I got it the first week and still have to do all the other stuff. Guess I should buckle down and knock it out.

[@jlrebor2626]

i just wanted rewind bro, it makes sense for a vex weapon and benefits dps as well as add clear, broken? ofc, do i mind? hell na, when rain of fire warlock, dodge hunter and grapple reload exist i dont think this was gona do any damage, and to balance it out you just have to put that not all 5 hits from the hip count for rr so its not an infinite magazine (that i also wouldnt mind at all)

[@plaztik767]

From my experience subsistence, Destabilizing Onslaught burns to much ammo. Just me though.. 👍🏻

[@MrSkelator]

I like onslaught the most probably. Although DR is fun. I just read that DR procs devour?? That true?

[@spartancrown]

It’s funny. I was in business for 20 plus years. One of the things I used to say all the time was it’s all up to you and how you intend to use it. Was an easy way to not be told later I led them down the wrong path. I of course am not implying that here. Two completely different situations. My customers were spending $5-30k a pop.

[@dukenukem19888]

Just make your point brotha.

[@sliceserve234]

I agree, for non subject matter experts we are looking for bottom line recommendations, not a ton of data and "you figure it out."

[@Revadike]

For hunters: Onslaught this episode. Subsistence after this episode.

[@gryphon123456]

agree with all of that. 👍🏻

[@Ninjapaul]

What is the synergy with Felwinters helm?

[@SpurnOfHumanity]

This is the nuance I'm subscribed for. I hate when people are completely black and white about things in the game.

[@sliceserve234]

but isn't there an in between this video and completely black and white that would be more helpful to people who really need a solid recommendation?

[@thepurpdoesthework]

Ya know honestly once the auto loading perk from the season goes away subsistence just makes it and unlimited ammo clip I mean u NEVER reload with it. Onslaught feels WAAYY better than it should cuz of that and I have to keep reminding my self “I wouldve had to realod like 3 times here…” After this season onslaught is gonna be a wild beast to tame ull need like 2-3 loader mods with flared magwell and hunter dodge spam to get anywhere close 😂😂

[@arch0094]

I think they said they’re buffing Alloy Mag soon

[@elitegaming5477]

Make one of each, it’s the right thing to do 💯⛳️👌🇺🇸

[@Will_Fong]

Only exotic i gonna craft 2 for different build and uses. Can't believe bungo wants to nerf it , like its player base not low enough.

[@Welverin]

I personally don't think exotics are worth crafting multiple copies since you don't need alloys to do it. Of course saying that, I couldn't resist making two copies of Outbreak so I could have one for PvP and one for PvE

[@Will_Fong]

@@Welverin Well when u have max alloy, max material, and too lazy to transfer gear haha one of each character with different build save me the 1 second of transfer.

[@Welverin]

@@Will_Fong Not unreasonable.

[@Skull_OWar]

Honestly, I think you’re just going from the viewpoint of an m&k player. Stability is an important stat for ARs, as having little Stability hurts the gun’s ability to land more precision hits. But, it’s common knowledge that m&k players can basically just ignore Stability as a whole, leaving them with more room to build more weapons into Handling instead. You put Onslaught on this gun while also having little Stability? Well then, it’ll be even harder to control for controller players.

[@Muiedhayavi]

i cant speak with the mashine do i need the dungeon key?

[@skuirrelTV]

Hope you're doing good brother

[@Rydoge7]

I would love the tap fire limit REMOVED! I get that may not be intended play style of a “auto rifle”

[@MichaelZeagler]

It's obviously very good, but the zoom is excessive. If the ADS makes it something you can use for ads and you can only use it comfortably at distance it just makes it clunky.

[@joker-molinaro4031]

You know how the reload multipliers stack ?

[@jeremymatthies726]

Im not even gonna bother with running expert level nor try for the extras since nce I haven’t played really used it much either

[@Brad-ut1ro]

Correction: it’s a masterpiece of a weapon… for now. Lol I hope they don’t hit ammo too hard on it, but I’m not gonna hold my breath or anything.

[@ibeendat3183]

Subsistence is better 🤫

[@Vkenlly]

Anyone interested in a Halo 3 WetaWorkshop, Destiny 2 fallen captain, or Harley Quinn statue ?

[@CydnAlpha]

Cano get it solo? That's all i care about now.

[@Shadowblaster-cr3ho]

am i the only one using Choir in pvp?

[@eduardosandoval5286]

Nice

[@eljefe485]

Crafting and having to do multiple catalysts contributed to me quitting destiny. It got to a point of why should I bother with anything if the guns I have are good already

[@GFlight.916]

I hate Exotics with crafting components. It kinda takes away from the Exotic being good fresh out of the box. Why would I grind content I barely wanna do for a new toy when its batteries aren't included, AND require me to do said activity AGAIN with modifiers made to inconvenience me wven further. * sigh *

[@bobbydown1606]

It's a super fun mission and why would you be OPPOSED to playing content? It's not even overly difficult

[@notmodeling8070]

It's there let's make this a full ass to get and keep them playing with out this exotic mission there would be no content there lazy assholes at bungie

[@grimmSOL]

They're not for everybody. Some people like to not think as much, you do you. But for those of us who like to min/max and weigh every option, crafted exotics are amazing.

[@grimmSOL]

​@@bobbydown1606They're most boring exotic mission, to date!

[@bobbydown1606]

@@grimmSOL "They're"? Also, objectively it is not. The Cabal one for the grenade launcher is easily the least fun to play. Beyond that, this one is quite fun, but you do you.

[@Neji1984]

Onslaught is trash

[@oldroptop7579]

I dont care how good it is, gun looks like doodoo so it's gonna be a pass from me.