What's the BEST Choir of One Catalyst? (Destiny 2)

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[@threeofjays6420]

0:21 you forget about the reserves nerf

[@updateguypls1088]

I have rocked Destabilizing Choir since the refit came out and when coupled with a Void Titan using Actium War Rig you basically have 2 catalysts rolled into one. It's perfect.

[@Sobergamer61]

Until 30 seconds later when you’re out of ammo 😂

[@updateguypls1088]

@Sobergamer61 with the explosive power of void titan and destabilizing, you don't need to fire many shots. Plus I do run Special ammo finders/finisher so I'm topped off

[@whoneedbag5264]

@@Sobergamer61Destabilizing is the best one for saving ammo, you can delete crowds with just 2 or 3 shots and have much more ammo to chunk majors and bosses. There’s very few yellow bar enemies that can take 2 or more shots from the hip fire shot point blank outside of champs so even if your using this as a primary you shouldn’t run into ammo issues when used correctly

[@brentlee082]

Destabilizing for the win

[@willisfrkz]

Destabilising because I like seeing the purple explosions. With volatile that just means MORE purple explosions.

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

I prefer onslaught mainly because the perk gives a reload buff with each stack allowing for crazy burst damage in a short amount of time. I know the base ammo reserve is getting nerfed but as long as you’re smart with your ammo then it won’t be that much of a problem, at least for me.

[@griqs]

Hmmm. I wonder how much does/ time it really speeds it up on bosses. Tho it won't be viable on every boss bc the perk duration is so little.

[@penlandsux1323]

Subsistence will have to be looked at next episode when there is not an auto rifle perk to autoload ammo into the magazine.

[@CrunchyMaggots]

Arguing that Onslaught is more ammo efficient than Subsistence is wild to me. Neither one affects damage per shot, or creates ammo. One keeps you topped up so you don't have to reload as often, and the other increases your rate of fire. I'm with you in arguing that Onslaught is the more useful perk, but for Ammo Efficiency?? That's crazy. You're more likely to waste shots with Onslaught with the higher rate of fire. Subsistence changes nothing about ammo efficiency, and Onslaught makes it worse.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Yeah I don't think he was thinking about ammo efficiency and maybe got confused with kill efficiency or mag up-time lol. Ammo efficiency, as you and I think of, has to do with how *little* ammo you use to do the same amount of damage. Basically any damage buff is technically an ammo efficiency perk, with the most obvious being perks like FTTC/TripleTap. Less work (in this case ammo) to produce the same result (in this case damage). Now I wouldn't say Onslaught necessarily makes it worse than Subsistence just because the amount of ammo you use isn't changing, just how fast. But the result gained is directly equivalent to how fast you're using ammo, so it's a net/loss of 0 in terms of ammo efficiency though you gain kill efficiency. Where I would say you are correct in Onslaught being worse is that the faster RPM may result in more shots missed. In the same amount of frames you could miss 1 shot on an enemy without Onslaught, you may miss 2-3 with Onslaught x3 which would result in loss of ammo efficiency.

[@zackphy]

Maybe he's thinking because you're not having to reload you're not keeping track of your reserves as much? If he relates reloading to now having less ammo in his mind then I guess I can kind of see it, but in reality Onslaught uses much more ammo than subsistence does but default. Missing with Onslaught is much more punishing than missing with Subsistence since you're most likely missing many more shots with the increased firerate.

[@tomis080]

Big fan of Destabilizing so far. Much better ammo efficiency. The reload without Onslaught is still fine.

[@ElektroShaw]

this plus without overload autos from artefact gives it practically intrinsic anti-barrier

[@denny8422]

​@@ElektroShaw Destabilizing Rounds and Volatile Rounds are not the same thing. Destab doesn't give intrinsic Barrier

[@Saffimaru]

@@ElektroShaw except that’s not true at all

[@Sjursrest]

​@@denny8422you can get that right on a gyrfalcon hunter though

[@denny8422]

@@Sjursrest Gyr gives Volatile Rounds, not Destab. That's why Gyr can give you Barrier

[@Black_Daniels679]

I like destabilizing rounds on gyrfalcon hunter. You're basically invis for the whole encounter

[@abyssalchaos556]

Ong, or you get free health in void Titan

[@VanpyroGaming0]

I'm torn between Onslaught and Destabilising Rounds. Onslaught chews through ammo but lets your burn everything quickly and Destabilising Rounds makes it into an add clearing monster but loses out on yellow bar chunking. Maybe I just make 2?

[@pistolgrippoet]

I made two, it’s worth it

[@jeanmarcv]

@@pistolgrippoet same

[@WeaselQueen-6]

I made 2 as well. Destabilising for normal content, onslaught for high difficulty like gm. I also use onslaught for void gyrfalcons because destabilising is unnecessary since I have constant volatile anyway. For prismatic gyrfalcons I'd probably pick destabilising. Both great picks, too hard to choose so go for both!

[@eirikjohnsbraten6370]

I've been enjoying Destabilizing on Void Titan with Controlled Demolition and devour, paired with Second Chance, giving weaken on demand, moderate healing, and purple kabloomies. Meta? Nah. Fun? Yep :)

[@Noname-qw2kb]

Is try the same exact build with reworked doom fangs. METAH

[@Lemmesipdat]

I use destabilizing rounds because the time it takes to empty a mag with the base fire rate and then reload is just enough time for auto loading to kick in on my rocket. Better for rotations.

[@whoneedbag5264]

Destabilizing let me save tons of ammo since you can just pop a head or two in a crowd and everything dies, letting me use the hip fire shot a lot more. I solo flawlessed spire and duality just running this, the call, and edge transit and had no ammo issues and I wasn’t even running reserves. After the nerf it’s gonna feel more or less the same for me minus the crazy boss damage but even then it’ll be solid for an edge transit Rotation

[@aelfgernon7729]

I think I'd go onslaught if you use it with a primary and destabilizing if you tend to use it in double special builds.

[@donkulator]

onslaught just turns hipfire choir into 4th horseman with extra steps lmao

[@Iamhimothy-11]

I think it’s funny he said gun to his head he’d pick onslaught of which he has zero kills but his destabilizing roll has 1200 😂😂😂😂😂

[@SamEy3Am]

0:18 - DFP Sheikh is nerfing Choir?? 😜

[@icarusreaver3184]

Someone thought about using it in crucible and he just couldn’t stand for that

[@SamEy3Am]

@@icarusreaver3184Those damn Choiring Coreys

[@Razor_Regiment]

Gyrfalcon choir/subsistence is the ad clearing king,you’re welcome.

[@IAmKingTony]

Onslaught is great if you want to waste half of your ammo shooting thin air where the enemy used to be...

[@T3chn0Panda]

Destablilizing gives it massive add clear and the gun already hits like a truck. TTk is great (Onslaught) but even in high end content I think having a jack of all trades is better.

[@iARmusic21]

Onslaught also causes you to run through ammo faster so thats a negative for me personality I go DR

[@cheezyguy7119]

Onslaught can be a chaotic to manage in lower end content but it still absolutely shreds bullet sponges. I like it, plus the reload imporvement that coolguy detailed was nice as well.

[@gormleypeach5809]

Did they change the internal cooldown on destabilizing rounds? Is that something i missed, or did he just miss speak? Or is it just special to this gun?

[@Bothsides]

I still prefer Destabilizing Rounds for overall map clear. And when it’s time to shred a champion, hip fire works great. Sure onslaught could kill that champion faster, but I’d argue that if you are clearing the map of adds quicker with DR, the slightly more time it takes to wear that champion down is worth the trade off. I do, however, see what you’re saying about the inconsistency or DR proccing. I’ve noticed it a few times. But it’s never been detrimental to the situations I was in.

[@fadhilaiman7812]

As a super casual choir of one is one of the best and funnest craftable exotic and all the catalyst are really interesting..im glad ive done all the catalyst quest..with 100 resilience and triple resist seasonal mod this auto rifle is 10/10 in my book

[@esme011]

I built into the ammo issue (special finders, void scavengers, special finishers) that seem to keep me in green for now. Still being a little judicious in firing rate and when to hip fire is probably a good lesson in control. Using onslaught for now

[@potato1341]

Destab because I'm a gremlin prismatic hunter who loves the invis uptime of a TF2 cloak and dagger spy.

[@ericharden1359]

I feel like the upcoming nerfs are going to favor Destabilizing Rounds. Once the damage output gets reduced, the other two catalysts boil down to "Do less damage than before, now even faster", especially since its special ammo. Then again, I prefer when more things go boom in violent spouts of purple, so I may be biased

[@IAmKingTony]

The only damage being reduced is point blank damage to Divinity cages.

[@BinkTheDragon]

They are only fixing the div damage bug and it’s reserves. The gun’s The Damage at this time is being unchanged.

[@jonnelson1114]

As a hunter subsistence is best just pair with the gyrfalcon or foetracer for that dmg boost plus I feel like sanguine alchemy for warlocks would let it shine

[@Caydes_ghost76]

One should be able to enhance perks on exotics also. Enhanced destabilizing rounds, enhanced rapid hit ect.

[@Quantumwastaken]

Best combo imo Onslaught + Gyrfalcon. I have over 25,000 kills with this combo already and at least for the rest of this season with the artifact mods, it's incredible

[@ThawZero]

Not a Lemon Bar but I’ll take it!

[@Soulverine]

Another Catalyst idea that is completely off the wall but could be fun if we want more Prismatic or dual energy weapons (like Conditional Finality) would be a hatchling/suspend refit. Precision kills while ADS spawn threadlings but hip firing kills charge up a meter. Once the meter is charged, the next hip fire shot will suspend enemies. I suppose you could let ADS shots charge the meter as well just at a far reduced rate

[@michaelferrarini1463]

This sounds better than the wish keeper we got. If we got wishkeeper we years ago, it would’ve been GM meta for awhile. Power creep lately is insane.

[@GrandmaDestiny]

Nice and quick breakdown. Hunter will have Destab. Main will be Onslaught.

[@Bubba1025]

I think it’s safe to say all the different perks are each great. I personally like subsistence because no reloading.

[@noahedenborg4221]

what i see is DR for add clear on none pris/void class onslaught or sub for bassicly anything else

[@TheLivingGhost9724]

I think it could’ve been cool with a repulsor brace catalyst but the ones we got are pretty cool

[@iceO-V1]

Some one correct me if I’m wrong but when radiant and while hip firing the weapon do the bullets bounce off barrier champion???

[@codygrinnell8676]

Onslaught on my hunter!!! I'm thinking of crafting a second one with Destabilizing for my hunter/Titan

[@OtherL]

I think your cat should depend on your class and it's use. Hunters probably got it easy with DeStable and Gyr. Warlocks using Void Walker should using DeStable with Sin exotic Void Titans can have a hell of a time with Actium and Onslaught(Sweet business 2.0?).

[@gavinhazan1415]

Once I get the caty im gonna be running destabilizing rounds on my Titan. Dont forget controlled demo spreads volatile as well as healing you and nearby allies on explosion

[@DomDomPop]

I mean, isn’t the answer always “depends on what you’re using it for or where you’re using it”? Subsistence (without the artifact) and Onslaught in ad-heavy boss fights are going to be the best for sustained DPS. Destabilizing is great for ad clear and ammo efficiency. Personally, I think Destabilizing is better on this weapon than others because the explosions and radiolaria pools can kill enemies faster than they can get out of range, where other weapons can quickly make the perk near useless. Onslaught is honestly my least favorite. The hidden reload increase is nice, but the gun can already shoot as fast as you can move target to target. Unless you’re ramping up to attack a larger target or just spraying horizontally to catch ads but waste ammo, it just doesn’t feel necessary. I’m usually doing ADS on crits like the Touch of Malice.

[@tripatomz3441]

Is anyone else having trouble with the base version of this gun not stunning overload champs I took it into the bunker e 15 expert lost sec. And it would not stun the first champ in there even with me laying into him with every shot

[@clintstuckey]

I love onslaught, but it feels like I dump all ammo SO fast, I may have to go back to destabilizing rounds.

[@colinsmith6340]

Destab for me. Voidlwalker running nezeracs sin. The huge amount of void explosions FEEEEEED MEEEE

[@tkpro10]

Doesn't destabilizing rounds have a 3sec cooldown on proccing? Prob why it feels inconsistent

[@pejvaksalehi9556]

@fallout I’m wondering if the inconsistency in getting destabilizing rounds comes from the 3 second cool down it has.

[@kyojuwaffuru1840]

using a prismatic void/stasis build with gyrfalcons and i have not took this weapon off since I got destabilizing rounds

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[@soooluscious5636]

Did you just use the word "Tremensly"? I'm stealing it 😂

[@DeePal072]

5:07 speaking of ammo economy, while wasting special ammo to blow a fallen's mine 😅.

[@clintstuckey]

Can you imagine if they let us run two weapon exotics at once?

[@JeffKryger]

Recommendations on barrel, mag, stock?

[@jaccomusic12]

Fluted Barrel, Flared Magwell, Short-Action Stock.

[@JeffKryger]

@@jaccomusic12 Nice, that's what I had. Thank you!

[@Based_Shogun]

I keep forgetting that hip fire uses way more ammo

[@bronybro1616]

CHIOR OF ONE! CHIOR OF TWO! CHIOR OF MAAAANY!

[@jeffm7007]

Onslaught Gyrfalcon sounds like a hell of a time.

[@Muffin_Button143]

But little did we realize week 3 was going to be nothin but the mission 😅

[@RoudyLopez]

Man lfg for these catalysts are pissing me off. I'm trying to solve all the puzzles and random lfg ears act like they're trying to do the damn speed run and they're not and they are literally running all the way to the end of the map and activating the boss knowing full. Well I'm trying to get that last puzzle right after the lab.😢

[@jhoagie1367]

Do it solo on regular man. It's not that bad. You don't have to even fight the boss.

[@WaterGates1]

I still need to do all the catalyst stuff myself, too. Haven't been on the game since I got the gun and that was like 3 weeks ago. 😂 I'm just resigned to knock out everything solo so I don't run into the same people you're encountering.

[@sm0k525]

I rarely disagree with you but you are incorrect this time. Destabilizing rounds is S Tier across the board.

[@jamesford871]

I feel like destabilizing would be S tier if your playing warlock or Titan considering Hunter has an exotic that will give you free destabilizing rounds

[@EnderKnightz]

​@jamesford871 not even with warlock do you need it. My void build I spam nades that give me volatile rounds.

[@kennethhinshaw8683]

Any boss encounter with ads onslaught is an animal

[@ogLenas]

​@@jamesford871 ...or the hunter can just keep on Nighthawk and still have some of the best DPS and ad clear in the game. Gyrfalcon so unnecessary.

[@jamesford871]

@@ogLenas yea well void is arguably the hunters identity like warlock to solar.

[@AndrewGonzalez-jy1nc]

I have exotic chest piece that automatically reloads it anddd im using the destabilizing rounds

[@micksmith1812]

Destabilizing Rounds with Gyrfalcons build isthe one for me

[@burningpuppy476]

PowerStachman! Still Killin it.

[@ogLenas]

Destabilizing is the play

[@WaterGates1]

I still need to do all the catalyst stuff. Smh. So much to do, so little time.

[@boltstriker7736]

Onslaught made me actually wanna use the ads mode and not the hip fire mode 24/7, so gonna stick with that one. Subsistance is plain boring And as a hunter with many spirit of the gyrfalcon class items I don't feel the need for destabilizing rounds

[@goodsephiroth001]

Unlike incandescent and voltshot, volatile rounds have a cooldown, that’s probably where your inconsistency comesfrom

[@ML-tf5xp]

Arnt destabilizing and volatile diffrent

[@ricardocarrera9118]

Destabilizing gives volatile rounds @ML-tf5xp

[@goodsephiroth001]

@@ML-tf5xp yes but it’s the destabilising rounds which proc volatile

[@elgin1039]

Destabilizing Rounds is just too good not to use in PvE.

[@deadlysin1174]

Destabilizing

[@Lrbearclaw]

As a Void Hunter (no, I do not use Gyr, my Rigs have been superglued to my ass for 7 years), I like Subsistence because it isn't hard for me to get a Volatile chain going and hipfire makes it even faster. So, I usually get my full mag by simply blowing up 2 or 3 enemies with one hip-shot.

[@Saffimaru]

You know you could just use a gyrfalcon galanor class item on prismatic to have rigs AND gyr right?

[@Mattblaze1477]

I dont even care I just put on Destabilizing rounds and called it a day since the more purple explosions the better.

[@Sobergamer61]

Destabilizing rounds are incredibly weak af. It needs a rework.

[@goodsephiroth001]

For my pris gyrfalcons hunter destabilising rounds can’t be beaten

[@sundown2852]

You might say you couldn't control yourself

[@Yogarine]

Yes.

[@Fungus76]

Maybe time to get the gun...

[@EvisceratorMK2]

I went through the effort of unlocking Prismatic for my Hunter & made a 0 exotic armor (mainly because I prefer my 3x 100 stats over using low Stat exotics I have since I only just finished getting all exotic armor pieces for him) Choir of One infinite invisibility build & never has murder through a legendary playthrough felt so satisfying.

[@aperezh]

Your content is so inspiring.

[@Nostradamoss]

Boys n berry pie

[@zanesmith666]

How was this stretched into a 13 min video

[@Iamhimothy-11]

I crafted both 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂

[@giacomociogli7631]

As you said, shout out to Stylish Executioner. And thats my main point there. Hunter main, running prismatic in PvE with Stylish, having a weapon that can apply a debuff (scorch, jolt, volatile/weaken, slow, severed) and then killing it means i can go invisible and with the exotic class item with Spirit of Gyrfalcon i can make Choir a anti barrier weapon for free, making more void explosions and going invisible all the time, rinse and repeat.

[@ammonbergevin5302]

6:38 wait, I thought destabilizing rounds had a 3 second cooldown, does choir of one ignore that?

[@CakeorDeath1989]

If you're a Hunter main, and using this with Gyrfalcon's, the answer should be straightforward enough - Subsistence. I feel as though Onslaught is not the best perk on a weapon that has no issues chewing through enemies with its normal fire rate, and I would be hesitant to suggest increasing the fire rate of a weapon that doesn't have the infinite ammo of a primary. Not much to be said about Destabilising Rounds. If you're relying on such an inconsistent perk to get the Gyrfalcon chain rolling, you might want to take another look at your build. Subsistence is the best PvE mag perk. One of the only drawbacks of Gyrfalcon's builds is you have to stop and reload. Remove that from the equation. Funnelweb and Recluse are insanely popular weapons to use with such builds for a reason.

[@Archer25.25]

Your content makes me want to jump up and down! Thanks for your kind effort and dedication ❤

[@johnattwood4000]

Its the classic bungie thing of f your vault and craft 2 or play better games.

[@scottdunfee8117]

My prismatic hunter spawns his own volatile rounds, and I use the autorifle artifact mods, so onslaught. It's basically like using all three at once.

[@names-j]

Was about say this, I think the roles for each class can differ for what's best, but with hunter having gyrfalcons, and artifact mods this gun was made for us. 3 in 1.

[@twistedgale]

Onslaught. NEXT

[@HaphasardWards]

I wish I could just have the three perks in one column, instead of having to recraft it every time I need to switch it. I want to keep my kill count to one gun.

[@Cqntemplate]

Onslaught. Next question

[@Neji1984]

Funny because destabilizing rounds is much better

[@updateguypls1088]

Destabilizing > Onslaught

[@twistedgale]

@@updateguypls1088no

[@yasininn76]

Destabilizing you mean

[@twistedgale]

@@yasininn76 nope

[@dabtasticcharizard9817]

It's onlsaught and it's not close

[@croakcroakfish2517]

onslaught is just a massive ammo waster lmao

[@deeje3688]

How does it waste ammo? Do you miss more with high fire rate?

[@haida8421]

3 options and 13 minutes of yap?? are you insane????

[@Zurrke]

God forbid someone actually discusses the pros and cons of each catty rather than just telling you what to do

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

Trash gun

[@jfoundation75]

The phrase is "be-all, end-all" not the other way about. Heard Datto using it the flipped way as well. Thanks for the video, cleared a few things up 🙌🏼

[@GoersEdits]

Onslaught with void warlock to get volatile easily is nuts