I love this thing. I really do, and can't wait for this combo to be on other weapons
@trevorromein144 ай бұрын
A 180 getting the hype it deserves. I'm about it 😂
@juansantamaria74764 ай бұрын
I'm sold
@juansantamaria74764 ай бұрын
Do you think it's better than the Crota HC?
@dkdx16904 ай бұрын
@CoolGuyGames I've been on the fence about this gun but you sold me as always! Appreciate your review CoolGuy!
@SteelShad0w_4 ай бұрын
This thing looks so fun, I gotta try that combo on it
@martindesgagnes63684 ай бұрын
10:54 Late?!? No, you’re not. Never. YOU set the bar. It’s all hype until YOU come in and set the record straight. Hats off to you.
@dkdx16904 ай бұрын
FACTS If CoolGuy drops a video I'm all ears because it's always 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@broodingtree20144 ай бұрын
Absolutely 🎉
@sigstuff4 ай бұрын
Real
@lossofwill4 ай бұрын
That's spot on. I like his and TVs. They both give great honest revues and they also have different options for different reasons sometimes.
@juansantamaria74764 ай бұрын
Great comment! Hella true! Set them CG!
@schulace4 ай бұрын
I love the "obvious" roll because if you put bakris on it suddenly kills any resil with the surge
@capeclint4 ай бұрын
Same!
@kurikiarizeth29904 ай бұрын
This and or radiant, then you get all the range and benefits but also kill any resil
@AtlRopeGuy4 ай бұрын
Ooo spicy! Glad you're doing better, you SOUND better man!
@M_Clutch4 ай бұрын
Assuming others have mentioned but Bahkris dodge boost gives the .67 at all resil
@bootlegbison37584 ай бұрын
Very curious about that. Been rocking that on prismatic anyways so that'd be fun
@brandonlc8564 ай бұрын
It's so fun. Literally gives you Not Forgotten back
@bootlegbison37584 ай бұрын
@@brandonlc856 Never was around for og luna's meta but I'll take you're word for it
@Nythus4 ай бұрын
Been using it with the Prophet to great effect. 2 tapping tier 10's is very fun
@Shxlbyyy4 ай бұрын
I literally just looked this hand canon up and saw this was immediately uploaded, what good timing 😂
@seandavis88314 ай бұрын
Love it when this happens 😂
@12345pph4 ай бұрын
Yes, KZbin basically be shoving the videos in your face and telling you "Here you go buddy, we got you covered 😂🤣👍
@whimsy77374 ай бұрын
If you haven't tried Eddy Current since the rework, use it with voltshot on nation of beasts. feels incredible for any content where amplified is easy to keep up. Really solid option for a reload perk now, sad that sightline doesn't get it.
@justsomerandomguy65624 ай бұрын
I really do appreciate these videos. While crafting is nice I find myself all too often just making “safe” or basic decisions when it comes to crafting because I’m lazy and don’t really put a lot of thought into things like synergies or what a new perk might be like. Seeing stuff like this makes me feel a little more at ease stepping out of my little comfort zone and trying something new
@HarlequinJitsu4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Air trigger is top tier. You taught me that & I'm a Flawless sealed player. I prefer that you take the time to get to the heart of what makes a gun unique & which perks truly shine. Thank you. Much love
@rebcommando5874 ай бұрын
Weapons shine more to me if the weapon model doesn't look like booty
@iponce24 ай бұрын
@@rebcommando587so the gun still shines then? Cause these weapons look real purdy
@konnen73544 ай бұрын
Bungie was being clever with precision instrument. It's essentially a scaled down, pre re-work Magnificent howl.
@Matt0purdy4 ай бұрын
Not at all. Mag howl required precision. Precision instrument does not. It stacks on any damage, not just precision hits. I'll be honest, I'm still salty about them taking away mag howl. I really enjoyed it.
@rhyshuber99814 ай бұрын
I run it with feedbacks and shield toss. Hit somebody with a shield, 30s of neutral 3 tapping any resil
@Aj-py8en4 ай бұрын
@@Matt0purdy mag howl only needed 67% precision to get 3 taps off the rip. Precision instrument needs 100%
@Matt0purdy4 ай бұрын
@@Aj-py8en assuming you're talking purely about 180's, yes. Precision instrument also allows 120's to 1b-2h for optimal on all resil levels.
@Hawkeye836274 ай бұрын
@@Matt0purdy......pretty sure you need precision hits, dude. Hence "precision".
@isuccnewton26544 ай бұрын
so essentially, precision instrument on 180s is schrödingers ttk. "i dont know if my enemy is 3tap, or 4tap, until i look inside the box" "defeat comes for us all" "shut up"
@uhoh90004 ай бұрын
Strategist/Volt is a very strong combo for builds centered around class abilities. Ascension on Hunter, or even better the rocket backpack on Titan. If you're downing enemies with headshots, you will basically always have 6 rockets ready at the same moment you get your barricade or thruster back.
@ThomJrJr4 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this review, CoolGuy - as thorough as always, but just so appreciate the out of the box thinking. Genuinely have not seen anyone talking about air trigger much at all, much less air trigger/icarus dash, and air trigger/voltshot combos, which make perfect sense now that you highlight them. It really shows a mastery of your craft - you really know the ins and outs of this game. Thanks for the great ideas! Already loved this gun and now have a couple new rolls to try.
@marcsmith26564 ай бұрын
Coolguy is the bar for honest in depth weapons reviews, regardless of timing. Rest up get well community wouldn't be the same without you 💯
@gabrielgardner20544 ай бұрын
Bro you were lighting me up at 4:19 I got into a few games with you and I was like how is he farming me with that I tried it out and it’s disgusting fun playing with you bro.
@Peridarth4 ай бұрын
I love how many times a perk that i just think "well this is an instant shard on anything i roll it on" then CoolGuy sits me down and explains "well here's where you're wrong, Bucko" I still use Field Prep on most any weapon i can ever sense you pointed out how that was also Outlaw on demand
@Solhawk174 ай бұрын
Great video! I love 180's myself. I'm convinced to give Air Trigger/Kill Clip a go. I didn't see/hear about Frontier's Cry. It's my go to handcannon in PvP. Here's my roll: Kill Clip/Rapid Hit/Accurized Rounds/Hammer Forged/Range Masterwork Range = 72 Stability = 59 Handling = 41 Aim Assist = 80 Recoil = 94 Magazine = 13
@matthewroy69114 ай бұрын
Wow, @ 8:20 ish when you start talking about the in air accuracy set. I literally said "oh my god ive been playing wrong this whole time" Thank you for showing me that set up. Im going to use it very often. Also at about 8:30, that clip of you jumping over the cover to finish the kill was chefs kiss
@brandonlc8564 ай бұрын
Imo keep away is a much better option than air trigger. You can use mods to up your reload speed and keep away is gonna give you that extra range 90% of your gunfights, which with a 180 is crucial to get consistent kills with them.
@Bone-Owner4 ай бұрын
You just persuaded me to try out air trigger my dear cool guy.
@RedEye3304 ай бұрын
Feels awesome on crimils and I’m not even a 120 enjoyer
@jesseritchie92824 ай бұрын
Desperate measures is pretty fun
@thomassmith68804 ай бұрын
180s are back baby!!! Thank you once again for breaking it all down . I haven’t been this excited for a 180 since 2018.
@rickfsu224 ай бұрын
Best destiny weapon reviews on the internet. I'm so fascinated to hear your explanations of your thought process for each weapon and rolls, it's awesome. Hope your doing well, sir.
@JeffreyMcLain4 ай бұрын
My guy CoolGuy coming in with a dope ass build. I've actually been holding off on playing with this gun because I was waiting for your review after seeing ifrahboat and I think it was TV, maybe Fallout? Everyon's takes have been fun to watch people get stoked on 180s. Never thought I'd see the day xD
@dougcarey22334 ай бұрын
I knew Coolguy would love this one.
@ennolanguss4 ай бұрын
I love my keepaway+pi with bakris hunter. Constant 3 taps!
@arjunbaweja77554 ай бұрын
@@Adam-tu1qxwell he doesn’t but I see the vision
@Adam-tu1qx4 ай бұрын
@@arjunbaweja7755 shit i originally thought to ask if he's tried strategist. Brain glitched while i was typing i guess lol
@Welverin4 ай бұрын
Your reviews are worth waiting for.
@Mrg02194 ай бұрын
YYEESSSS Coolguy review of the only 180 HC I am most excited for :D :D
@treysmith93714 ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve always thought precision instrument was a little over hyped. If you’re playing against a titan you’re almost guaranteed not to get the three tap. That’s already an entire class that can essentially render the perk useless. I personally run my warlock at 6 resilience on every build but a good number of people are at 5 or lower so I’d say there’s probably a 50/50 chance to three tap the average warlock. The only times I feel confident in getting a three tap is when I’m dueling a hunter
@gamerprodigy1074 ай бұрын
I wasnt going to craft this gun at all. But you showing how good air trigger has convinced me. Air trigger volt shot for pve. Im not usually a fan of reload type perks on hcs when i can get it on sidearms. Sidearms just reload way faster base but air trigger convinced me
@KBDaDragon4 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to try this with speed loader slacks. The new AA helmet mod. With an Icarus grip.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL44 ай бұрын
I said this in The Crimils video tol but THANK YOU for putting Air Trigger in the much deserved spotlight. It blew my mind when I saw Outlaw levels of reload when I crafted it on Bold Endings with huge skepticism.
@SamEy3Am4 ай бұрын
I am a huge fan of field prep, and you opened my eyes to how air trigger is field preps airborne sibling. Sincerely hoping they put it on more heavy weapons, other than the Solstice rocket coming soon! With the changes to reserves and the reserve trick getting removed, air trigger and field prep are going way up in stock.
@FShklr34 ай бұрын
Ive been loving this hand cannon, mine is keep away - Volt shot , so fun. And also i wanted to thank you for your review on Crimals dagger with air trigger and Adagio, im awful in pvp but have been having a blast with that roll, thanks brother
@jbliggidy1234 ай бұрын
Love your videos, always giving me something to think about and new perks to consider
@guyvermearns4 ай бұрын
i crafted an enlightened/voltshot roll, but defo gonna slap on air trigger now, thanks for clearing up how to best use that perk!
@shottingham4 ай бұрын
I don't watch any D2 PVP content other than CCG, cos PVE, but alright yeah - new sub. You're delivery is on point.
@Weebfox4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the detail you put into these reviews 🙏
@eXocloudx4 ай бұрын
Stompees increases hip fire accuracy while in the air too ontop of icarus grip and in flight compensator, if you wanted to negate air trigger penalty too
@jaredmorris66244 ай бұрын
Man I wish the goat cool guy could do every weapon review, best reviewer ever
@anthonyapuzzo23073 ай бұрын
My man made a solid case for a perk I'd normally never use. And now I gotta try it.
@aClockworkTomato4 ай бұрын
This was the first weapon I tried to get crafted from the moment the seasonal activity became available. I adore this thing. ❤
@Dragz-ys9ym4 ай бұрын
Our boy Word of Crota in the back of the class feeling forgotten
@patrickpetermann78084 ай бұрын
I just want to leave Mask of bakris here. 11sek guaranteed 3-tab . Give it a try. Its a monster.
@Joster644 ай бұрын
Tbh I'm not interested in this gun compared to what I already have but I still wanted to watch and like since you do such great work man. Top tier as always
@EtotheFnD4 ай бұрын
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy
@neonwolf12054 ай бұрын
Something worth pointing out about the Keep Away / Precision instrument roll - I play on PC with Controller due to disabilities and I really struggle in both PVE and PVP with slower hand cannons (especially 120s); so having huge range & accuracy on a 180 HC just sounds perfect, gonna try it out now lol
@PiggleDappertonVII4 ай бұрын
after hearing the claim of best chaining hand cannon in the game, I really think you should give the Ikelos hand cannon another shot. I certainly don't disagree with survey taking the top spot, but with the many damage/ttk changes since it came out, the ikelos_HC with offhand strike and golden tricorn can now three tap any resilience after a kill, and with the origin trait refilling the mag you never have to reload, plus the obscene range and precision aim angle from offhand, all while avoiding the frustrating 180 ADS viewmodel after the first kill. worth a shot at least, it's been such a favorite of mine!
@Steel16704 ай бұрын
I have not taken this weapon off since I crafted it. Absolutely addictive to use. I can’t remember the last time I had this much fun in PVP with a gun.
@arnolpc4 ай бұрын
I have been waiting on my hands for this review. I LOVE this hand cannon! Arc hunter main probably running in all the wrong ways. But by god does it slay!
@suspence72074 ай бұрын
Posterity has Frenzy Voltshot and Braytech is a baby welspring that procs on every hit INCLUDING VOLTSHOT HITS. No competition for PVE
@themmmeanone4 ай бұрын
2x Surge mods let you 3 tap 10 resilience if using Precision Instrument, for 10, 15 or 30 sec depending on mods. An orb comes by easier than getting a kill with an 1 sec ttk weapon sometimes, when your 1v1 opponents most likely out ttk you and won't miss shots. Which was almost always the case when I brought Sightline Survey into sweaty lobbies or trials.
@koi25494 ай бұрын
Agreed, the keep away + precision instrument was not bad but it's a total 50/50 on something you can't control. Might as well use a kill clip that ensures a 3 tap rather than gambling your way out the already overloaded pvp
@micahschatz80014 ай бұрын
I've been a big fan of bakris with 180s for a while now and this just creates the perfect combo for it
@SteelSlugProductions4 ай бұрын
Agreed with KC, however, if you use it with Mask of Bakris….Enhanced Precision Instrument is next level goooood!!! Try it sometime, it’s 3 taps on demand of any resilience level, so long as you Dodge before the engagement!
@AaronFrance4 ай бұрын
I'm really enjoying it on Titan with a Hazardous Propulsion build. Arc means I can match surges with either Crux Termination or Grand Overture and with it being easy to land precision shots with, exodus rockets are loaded quickly. Using Strategist paired with Voltshot. Strategist is obvious, given the build, Voltshot is just a fun perk. I may switch out Voltshot when I take this build into the raid.
@kheprishornuser24234 ай бұрын
I really love Precision instrument and desperate measures for pvp, but outside of that Frontier's cry just has better stats everywhere and a better origin trait.
@Chippy5694 ай бұрын
After the crimils video I hunted for an air trigger roll I liked, and found the perk really gels for me and my play style/habits. Sightlines in pvp is probably not for me, but I will definitely be doing at/voltshot.
@kevin101lee4 ай бұрын
Ok Cool Guy, you might be late with your review's. But they are worth the wait. Thanks m8.
@Christian-kj4ox4 ай бұрын
I love this hand cannon, I have a enhanced strategist and voltshot build, and it’s so fun to use, voltshot is great and I always have my class ability on Hunter, paired with the exotic chest piece to just spread jolt 24/7
@DrGaryOak4 ай бұрын
You might be the only high end CC that is praising Air Trigger, but your argument for it is getting stronger every time. Loving this weapon with the basic Keep Away/P Instrument combo, but may consider that AT/KC combo tonight.
@ThePmcderm914 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos!!! You are like my brain for destiny
@jaylowkeyeezy36184 ай бұрын
@CoolGuyGames I am also a console player but my question is what do you use for Frame of the weapon?
@RuinXiii4 ай бұрын
Absolutely love this gun. It’s definitely replaced my pugilist/voltshot Posterity that has over 30k kills
@christianglassel99504 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was CoolGuy back in D1 who first pointed out how busted the Outlaw/KC combo was and changed the meta. His proclamation re: Air Trigger feels similar.
@muzak3134 ай бұрын
@CoolGuyGames In your Nation of Beasts review, you stated that enhanced keep away gave 15 range despite what it says in-game and in the UI. Has something changed? Love your content. The absolute upper echelon of gear reviews.
@JohnSmith-dz6vj4 ай бұрын
Yeah this thing is great once I was able to craft it I made the pvp roll and haven't stopped using it love it
@josephwaldron61684 ай бұрын
Posterity voltshot frenzy pretty good
@SamuraiLJacks0n4 ай бұрын
I like precision instrument with Bakris, it's really fun I will definitely give air trigger a try
@son_ofspartacus23764 ай бұрын
Alright fine, I'll try air trigger. But I'm sticking with PI. The potential for a fast 3-tap, and the potential to keep chaining fast kills without a reload inbetween, not to mention how it helps teamshots and cleanups keeps me using it.
@gommyboi3804 ай бұрын
Has anyone tested voltshot instead of kill clip in pvp? Im wondering if it 3 taps at all resils like kill clip because if it can then its just better than kill clip in every way
@corninyourpoo4 ай бұрын
“It’s the new Peanut Butter and Jelly.” Made me lol instantly. Perfect delivery.
@Imeerda_k1llsh1t4 ай бұрын
I’m going to try air trigger/pi because of this video. Tbh I feel like if you’re not using bakris you’ve gotta be using acrobats dodge with inmost light/coyote. Both of those clear 10 res. PI+radiant is the way.
@daniellatham12194 ай бұрын
Glad people are realising how good the air trigger reload is
@joetedesco634 ай бұрын
Will be crafting TODAY, one way or another!! Thanks
@sc5the4 ай бұрын
you are the reason i still play destiny
@frankthetank38514 ай бұрын
A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to!
@ProtsmanPanther4 ай бұрын
LETS GOO NEW COOLGUY VIDEO
@supermanspy55224 ай бұрын
I was also very anti-180 till this handcannon. Love how it sounds
@dankerbell4 ай бұрын
they cooked with the models and sfx of these guns
@Zerrakai694 ай бұрын
Thank you again as always for bringing something new to the table coolguy, keep away/precision just sounds so boring. Absolutely gonna be crafting mine with air trigger/kill clip ❤
@Oron_The_Massive4 ай бұрын
YES finally talking about this weapon everyone is hardcore sleeping on it
@Viperacrx6004 ай бұрын
The perfect weapon for Cool Guy is gonna have Full Bore in both barrel and mag, and then Shoot to Loot, Air Trigger, Kinetic Tremors and I’m not sure on the origin perk. Guy LOVES full bore, and hates stability, despite being on controller
@adhirg4 ай бұрын
the Pale Heart precision shotgun “Someday” is basically a craftable Matador 64, right? can we please get a review on that bad boy? I believe it’s also the first non-slug shotgun (aka pellet) to roll with Recombination - interested to see your opinion on it!
@abyng1494 ай бұрын
Sweet, Thanks for talking aboot air trigger. Now ill make this pvp ver, Butt also a pve ver with air trigger volt shot!
@ScribeTheMad4 ай бұрын
The gold standard is never late. Once again you have me rethinking a perk I'd written off as auto-dismantle junk.
@lewiscarroll69864 ай бұрын
Strategist with volt shot using thrusters with HOL is a great combo
@hardknocks5077Ай бұрын
Nice my second roll was keep away precision instrument.. but got the stability masterwork which i prefer more then range. I like my headshots baby
@Mugiwara2k4 ай бұрын
I love 180’s, and this is easily one of the best. I hate all the slander they get, they are no where as bad as people make them out to be.
@PankyNips4 ай бұрын
Every time I try one I remember why they are terrible
@Mugiwara2k4 ай бұрын
@@PankyNips Skill issue maybe? 🤔 (J/k) Some people just don’t like the way they feel, it’s probably just a preference thing. I think they are the best feeling hand cannons, and I usually do better with them than 140s and some 120s
@julianlak10174 ай бұрын
They feel good if you’re not hitting 140 3 taps…if you are 180’s feel like an eternity
@tenacity254 ай бұрын
"Do I, A - Gamble.." Ok. that settles it. I'm going precision instrument.
@anotherkenlon4 ай бұрын
Air Trigger is an insanely phenomenal perk on anything without a lightning fast reload. It will be meta.
@RiggedDynamo4 ай бұрын
You probably wont see this but I really want to know, why is your motion tracker so dark/opaque? I've always wanted mine to be more opaque (I have my HUD opacity maxed out) but I have never seen such a dark looking motion tracker background.
@greenprotag4 ай бұрын
This is neat, but I think I would still go with Posterity. Frenzy & voltshot - flaired mag well - reload MW. Bray legacy feeding me ability energy...
@Whitebishop894 ай бұрын
Hey coolguy, hope you're doing well. I had a video idea not sure how much effort you would need to put in. Could you do a video on resilience levels in the crucible and where the ttk shifts are for different archetypes and what level of resilience would give you the most benefit with out being max
@TwiceBubaigawara-dl5ln4 ай бұрын
I’m crafting it with the newest class ability gaining perk and voltshot.
@mattyouknowwho42004 ай бұрын
Dude the reserve stat on this weapon is gnarly. Probably the best in the game.
@GenesisDG4 ай бұрын
Gun kick kind of blocks view of the target. Other than that, its an awesome weapon.
@gryphon1234564 ай бұрын
Coolguy liking a 180 HC. Now I've seen it all!😲
@alexandersavage3054 ай бұрын
I’ve been using EA/Voltshot. It’s not the flashiest, but DAMN does it feel good. I haven’t enhanced it yet, so I’ll give air trigger a shot!
@scottricks16763 ай бұрын
Sight line has a ton of special things going for it. By far the best 180 imo.
@previzslagaming4 ай бұрын
Radiant guarantees the 3tap with precision. Pretty easy to get in 6s from orbs + artifact, and from hunter abilities.