dont see much of a point in running it over vantage point when its overcharged (25%) while autos are not and dark ether origin trait is so good. dying to hear your thoughts on sanguine alchemy a lot of ppl are using it for boss dps but the neutral game is extremely strong as well especially on arc
@thealldayspecial3 ай бұрын
Definitely a mule of a weapon in the HUD too much bulk for my liking. Also I am jealous of the PVP lobbies you are getting, people practically running at you wanting to get hit.
@exxy99313 ай бұрын
I was initially just going to entirely pass over it (I already got the one roll of demo/chain on the dungeon fusion I wanted and it was the only one that immediately came to mind) but after you mentioned strategist/jolting feedback, I thought about a build from ATP I've been trying out lately (essentially Gifted Conviction on Prismatic-Ascension Hunter and realized Strategist/Jolting Feedback on this gun would pair really well with this build; looks like I'm going back in to grind it more).
@Jakesterpop12 ай бұрын
Can there be a gun that is craftable and gets Jolting feedback?
@jvsilky3 ай бұрын
Ah yes the Zhalo minicell. One day you’ll come back to me..
@Gr4veM1nd3 ай бұрын
Real ones remember Zhalo. My Hunter loved that thing...
@jvsilky3 ай бұрын
@@Gr4veM1nd real ones remember the bridge of thrall leading to alak hul. Zhalo in its most beautiful form.
@BluVic023 ай бұрын
@jvsilky nah beginning of that one splicer nightfall with the blind ogre at the end
@philipt27983 ай бұрын
Zhalo😢
@Sam-mm1mz3 ай бұрын
if this gun had subsistence it would literally be a 1:1 legendary zhallo lol. Kinda sad it doesn’t have it ngl
@King_Chance3 ай бұрын
I assumed Jolting Feedback needed consistent damage on the same target to proc. It just activating on the 16th bullet on ANY number of enemies within a small timeframe is a game changer. I'll have to give it a go!
@scottgriffin64673 ай бұрын
I love it on the new revenant pulse
@zachstinnett54753 ай бұрын
Me too. But til it's same same, but different.
@midgetmasher1663 ай бұрын
people are saying "oh this auto blocks my vision" i say "this piece of art rightly demands my attention"
@ringomandingo10153 ай бұрын
I assume you’re also a fan of the base model of Collective Obligation too?
@beeman42663 ай бұрын
For real, the four dungeon guns are some of the best looking legendaries they've ever made. The Deepstone Crypt weapons are the best-looking guns they've ever made imo, these weapons are a worthy successor.
@midgetmasher1663 ай бұрын
@@beeman4266 someone sees the vision clovis bray, for all his *numerous* faults, had quite the artistic eye
@jvsilky3 ай бұрын
@@midgetmasher166 never understood people who say guns are too big that’s the fucking point brother. Big booms
@chrisborges73443 ай бұрын
It's so aesthetic that it deserves the screen space and makes me feel good. I feel good, I play better.
@themccman3 ай бұрын
They should give centrifuse jolting feedback. It fits perfectly into its whole staying amplified thing.
@gambeano3 ай бұрын
@themccman that and or a mag buff. It has a drum mag but has no ammo to kill anything
@fotis3v4803 ай бұрын
Gun feels awful the mag doesn't refresh nearly as fast as it needs and it doesn't refresh while sliding which is whta most of us do constantly. They should make it when amplified killing enemies with explosions refills the mag alah subsistence.@@gambeano
@sandwichdude973 ай бұрын
@@fotis3v480most of us do not slide constantly
@blacktemplar7073 ай бұрын
Yeah, things a disappointing version of Riskrunner. No arc exotic compares, more so now on titan with the Peacekeepers change. Can't understate how much Sanguine Alchemy healing rifts and Riskrunner will carry your fireteams. Bring a sword with Energy Transfer
@dumoneyyy3 ай бұрын
Centrifuse needs a full rework. Needing to always be sprinting or sliding is a HUGE cost for a mag that doesnt even refill as quickly as it needs to be. Its a worse Riskrunner
@DerultimativeOzzy3 ай бұрын
13:03 Gun so good it made you unlock arc subclass and solar for good measure since this gun is straight fire
@amb.7913 ай бұрын
The guardians yearn for zhalo supercell
@iouplayyy91913 ай бұрын
It's already in the game has been since launch
@pizza-for-mountains3 ай бұрын
@@iouplayyy9191 riskrunner is an impostor and has committed tax fraud
@Nailfut3 ай бұрын
This gun with Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback is the perfect primary for the newest Warlock exotic, Rime-coat whatever. Devour+Arcane Needle+Facet of Dawn+Facet of Solitude. Place your turret domain, melee and start shooting: enemies will slow, freeze, shatter, jolt and be both severed and unraveled, while you're radiant. It's crazy good and carries my solo dungeon runs, especially in second encounter (just add Lost Signal and an Wardcliff Coil and you're good to go for a chill run tbh).
@qualichor12223 ай бұрын
Good intel this
@Thorus083 ай бұрын
Yup. Have this exact roll and it has been a lot of fun to use.
@11stinkmeaner2 ай бұрын
Dim link to your build ?
@11stinkmeaner2 ай бұрын
Dim link fo build ?
@jordanmckay70373 ай бұрын
Most fun I’ve had with an auto since the Gnawing Hunger days.
@plaztik7673 ай бұрын
High praise .. Loved the hunger in its day 👍🏻
@Snowshill3 ай бұрын
jolting feedback is such an upgrade over the voltshot perk by a insane margin, volt shot only giving one shot that applies jolt and you can only to it after a kill, it just feels bad to use it desperately needs a change something along the lines of Magnificent Howl e.g. for every kill you get before reloading grants you a "charged shot" on reloading you get a number of "volt rounds" that each cause a jolt and hitting a jolted target spreads it to nearby enemies, and get more "charged shots" for killing higher tier enemies.
@JamesTheHuman3 ай бұрын
I would have loved to have seen jolting feedback and onslaught such a missed opportunity
@TheDeadb3ar3 ай бұрын
Usually they'll do the crazy perk combos with new perks at a later date. Usually on better guns as well. Imagine a 720 auto with those perks 🥹
@MM-he2iq3 ай бұрын
@@TheDeadb3arvery true! I think that’s a wise move by Bungie. Can’t start at S tier and expect people to want a B tier gun grind later on.
@ClairvoyantLastrus3 ай бұрын
Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback make it feel like an exotic. It's the closest thing to Zhalo Supercell from D1. That alone is why people want attrition orbs, instead of generating super energy you generate an orb which is more or less the same thing
@iSlide2473 ай бұрын
Been loving my eddy current/jolting feedback roll
@xxorcaxx3 ай бұрын
just have to say it...for me this is the best channel for weapon reviews because it has so much in depth info for pve and pvp..keep up the great work
@evasiveupgrade3 ай бұрын
My first roll was attrition orbs and jolting feedback and I've been using it everywhere
@kinglegend12373 ай бұрын
Say what you will about attrition orbs but i have it with jolting feedback and after playing with it i dont see it leaving my inventory any time soon
@akiranakahara75693 ай бұрын
I agree. Attrition Orbs and Jolting Feedback are such a good combo. I've got a other one with Eddy Current/Jolting Feedback but the ability to make so many orbs that feed into the blinding artifact perk make it my go to this season
@adummy96643 ай бұрын
I got lucky and that was my first drop I got, immediately Enhanced it when I saw that combo together.
@Fuddyface3 ай бұрын
Literally shoot the gun, jolt targets and shit orbs. I just got it and I’m stoked.
@kidbu9163 ай бұрын
I was waiting for you to speak on this because I saw what you saw. I managed to get the 390 pulse with Eddy Current/Jolting Feedback, but the god roll for this still aludes me. It's definitely a beast of weapon and with the synergy mod plus the artifact perk you get a lot of ionic traces to stack onto the origin trait.
@EtotheFnD3 ай бұрын
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...👊
@Somemetalguy9193 ай бұрын
I just got the strategist and jolting feedback roll and I’m loving it so far
@1chill_6233 ай бұрын
They need to add weapon and perk attuning for weapons that aren’t craftable. Like for Vespers you can attune the auto rifle and attune one of the two perks from the 1st and 2nd column and one of the two perks from the 3rd and 4th column
@arkurtzproductions3 ай бұрын
Dropped mine with Strat/Jolting last Saturday. This thing is awesome and is now my go-to arc weapon in PvE 👍🏻
@xTheDeliАй бұрын
This gun slaps. I’ve a got an attrition orbs + jolting feedback roll, and a killing wind + kill clip roll as well.
@awesomefuzz40083 ай бұрын
Looking for Fragile Focus(or To The Pain) with Closing Time for PvP personally. High magazine means it's fine to drop the first half into a wall and have 24 bullets left with Closing Time active for all of it. Should hit about 100 range and handling, plus the accuracy boost is huge.
@authenticbanana95053 ай бұрын
Great review as always! I'm really liking the scopes on these weapons, even the fusion, which I wouldn't have expected before using it. I'm definitely hoping to get my hands on eddy current + jolting feedback for a raiju's build on hunter for a bit of spice in endgame pve. I'm sure it'll happen right after I roll envious + BnS on the gl and unicorns return to the wild
@lDoxology2 ай бұрын
Loving strategist on this with jolting feedback. I use it for my vesper build. Insane. Think I found a replacement for my indebted kindness.
@panadaji4713 ай бұрын
when you have Gifted Conviction, it basically gives you resist x2 every 12 bullets lol. Free DR
@DamadaTattoo3 ай бұрын
My current build is built around gifted conviction 😏
@Saix10312 ай бұрын
What do u pair with pyroelectric propellant, like heavy wise and special wise for pve?
@panadaji4712 ай бұрын
@@Saix1031 the stasis GL for fast dark gauge and anarchy for heavy
@Saix10312 ай бұрын
@@panadaji471 gotcha, thanks :)
@KatanisPSN3 ай бұрын
I have a decent strategist/jolting feedback. It is so fun. Sidebar: the reissued Crucible sidearm has eddy current/voltshot. It feels so smooth mowing through adds.
@faridronin3 ай бұрын
Name?
@KatanisPSN3 ай бұрын
@@faridronin Autum Anonymous or something to affect. It's the one that can be farmed for 1 Crucible Engram per draw this episode.
@donkulator3 ай бұрын
my first roll of this auto was strategist and onslaught. lots of fun and love the model of these weapons
@slipk0rvayne173 ай бұрын
great review man
@frito01013 ай бұрын
Love your content brother, keep it coming! 🍻
@JimmyGainz3 ай бұрын
My 2nd drop was the auto rifle w/ hammer, ricochet, fragile and kill clip w/ a range MW. Amazing and it surprised me on the range, and how it out dueled most autos and hand cannons.
@CTEAnimator3 ай бұрын
just got my personal godroll, Smallbore ricochet fragile focus kill clip w/ stability masterwork, can't wait to take it for a spin
@MegaJp20002 ай бұрын
Never taking this weapon off and can’t wait for iron banner so I can get the new stasis rocket sidearm with chill clip 😮 jolting and freezing everything
@Welverin3 ай бұрын
Glad to see a 600 with good perks. I definitely want a Jolting Feedback roll, just a matter of what to pair with it, Attrition Orbs or Strategist?
@brandonbrock22163 ай бұрын
Eddy current and jolting feedback have uptime on max reload to have max jolt for pve
@Welverin3 ай бұрын
@@brandonbrock2216 You make a compelling argument, but I rarely use arc (or prismatic), so getting amplified isn't happening. So, I'd prefer a perk that's subclass agnostic (or doesn't require sprinting).
@gageyboi51233 ай бұрын
Just got one with jolting feedback and eddy current! Haven’t gotten the chance to run it just yet, but it’s seems crazy!
@saxdrummerjp3 ай бұрын
Strategist/jolting feedback, prismatic ascension 👌👌👌 been super fun
@spenn20073 ай бұрын
Just farm the 2nd checkpoint and dont give up it will drop. I love autorifles and this one is amazing and A LOT OF FUN TO USE.
@Drummer-Flash3 ай бұрын
Thank god for this vid - I have the strategist / JF roll sitting in my vault labeled as infusion fodder. whew! 😅
@DerrickOlejownik-z6i3 ай бұрын
Got 2 of these, 1 with kw and target lock with range master work and one with strategist and jolting feedback. Can’t remember the mw on that one but the target lock roll absolutely shreds in pvp
@MuhammadAli-qk2fe3 ай бұрын
Hey brother, hope everything is going well with your health and personal life. Can't wait for the anonymous autumn review. That thing is a beast with adagio.
@JustShova3 ай бұрын
Are you gonna do a video on the fusion? That thing COOKS🔥🔥🔥My new favorite pvp fusion
@Omega-Ignition3 ай бұрын
I won’t stop grinding for this one until I get one with jolting feedback. I love it on the season pulse.
@R8TEDR3 ай бұрын
I got a good first roll target lock and to the pain and kill clip with Eddy current
@seanfisher77073 ай бұрын
I got one to drop the other night. It has Killing Wind/Onslaught. Feels supreme. I love it.
@soooluscious56363 ай бұрын
Great review as always dude! How's the ol' ticker doing? Still feeling good? Hope all is well
@ThePackman6273 ай бұрын
I just got Fragile Focus, KC roll with a Range MW, and I'm excited to try it out
@Votrae3 ай бұрын
Welp, I need this beast ASAP. I forget, are newest dungeons are farmable (minus Exotic)?
@gutpunchYT3 ай бұрын
hope you’re feeling well!! love ya boss
@redtob21193 ай бұрын
do you love me? 😊
@mybrutaltruth93593 ай бұрын
Had to go here... As per your title, in the wise words of Deadpool, perhaps it would be "Maximum effort with Hero results" lol... Just watched Deadpool and Wolverine, so the second I saw your title, it popped into my head... lol. Hope you're feeling well young man. My best to you and yours, always.
@gamerclips18823 ай бұрын
Synergy with this and geomags COOKS
@vague55383 ай бұрын
I’d say Enhanced Jolting Feedback is viable for builds that don’t use amplify, since it reduces the number of bullets required from 16 to 15 which in a 60 round mag will apply jolt one more time than base
@mikevoelker72703 ай бұрын
Just got it to drop with eddy current and jolting feedback. Im in love lol
@aidenfoxhayes3 ай бұрын
Every machinegun with voltshot should be replaced with jolting feedback
@ClairvoyantLastrus3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the reckless oracle review :3
@ryankueffler94573 ай бұрын
CoolGuy, could you do a video on what weapons are worth enhancing?
@angrysaltine92703 ай бұрын
Could you do a review on the new bygones, would like to hear your take on it.
@count31223 ай бұрын
Close enough, welcome back Zhalo.
@MrSkelator3 ай бұрын
i got 'to the pain' & jolting feedback' is it a keeper? i like the feels so far
@adhirg3 ай бұрын
then keep it! you don’t need to keep farming just because a creator has a different god roll. just use what feels good
@JComm573 ай бұрын
This looks cool, but I don’t have it. My favorite arc auto rifle I have is probably Dark Decider from Iron Banner with voltshot.
@DARTHSKATER73 ай бұрын
I got strategist and jolting feedback... I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT.....
@KaiHarizor3 ай бұрын
What the heck. This is exactly what I need.
@aurens.3 ай бұрын
i'm very surprised to hear that the jolt counts as weapon damage for the origin perk and attrition orbs. i really could've sworn that jolt didn't work like that. is it just destabilizing rounds i'm thinking of? i thought it was both.
@adhirg2 ай бұрын
all of the damn subclass verbs are inconsistent across the board in terms of what they trigger, what they apply towards, what they count as, etc. I don’t blame you for being confused, since nothing seems to work like you would think!
@shshyie3 ай бұрын
Love my eddy current onslaught roll Hopefully get an ec+jolting feedback or attrition+jolting soon Also got a frag focus+target lock for if I decide to touch pvp for the first time since like into the light
@porphyon3 ай бұрын
great review as always, altho i disagree with your take on it possibly surpassing summoner. it is a decent pvp auto, but summoner having zen moment will always make it better. zen moment removing the majority of reticle bounce on 600s is so important for pvp in my opinion. that being said, i am on mnk, so maybe it feels different on controller
@soulfulmisfit81273 ай бұрын
swash and Fragile is the roll for pvp for sure, it out stats summoner and it MELTS
@tbfocean2 ай бұрын
i have both the pve and pvp godroll and as for pvp to the pain and ons is BY FAR the best combination available
@greyklopstock71553 ай бұрын
I've been really wanting to get this with jolting feedback, but it feels like the auto just refuses to drop now lol
@planning99303 ай бұрын
This with subsistence.. or a 720 with this and like cascade or onslaught would be insane
@Santi_-sn1kxАй бұрын
Why not a volt shot, jolt feedback roll?🤔
@mhill7653 ай бұрын
I got one with small bore, high caliber rounds, fragile focus, kill clip and with a range master work. I think that's pretty close to a God roll if not. Got pretty lucky.
@detersin3 ай бұрын
I have one with eddy current + jolting feedback with 80 recoil and I confirm that it feels amazing
@1leggeddog3 ай бұрын
Really like these weapon models. yes they are reskinned but still changes from the original and really looks scifi
@ellipses69633 ай бұрын
Literally my first AR drop was Killing Wind/Kill Clip. If it makes you feel any better, the mag and masterwork could be better…
@ogLenas3 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with this AR is the size of the model. Feels like it blocks half your screen.
@GoblinSwamp3 ай бұрын
Yeah, has the same problem as the vex AR from the last season
@MGShadow19893 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely curious, are you playing on a small screen? I can see the model clearly being a bit bigger, but I've never found it to be of any relevance when playing - the scope models can be obstructive on some weapons, or cluttered, but this seems fine to me.
@beeman42663 ай бұрын
@MGShadow1989 I play on a 34 inch curved monitor and it still blocks literally a third of my screen, it's huge.
@chaoticpuncher87563 ай бұрын
Compare bygones to this gun it’s night and day
@Riven-1173 ай бұрын
I'll never understand this complaint when you're always ADS'ing to shoot anyways. The reticle is clear, who cares?
@michaelmontalvo74413 ай бұрын
looking forward to the updated chroma rush pvp review
@shadowfoxprower44123 ай бұрын
Damn want this weapon but need a group to do this.
@karthik-vignesh-k2 ай бұрын
Does jolting feedback proc crown of tempest buff ?
@LexiBelleGaming3 ай бұрын
I hope they make Kinetic Tremors work like Jolting Feedback.
@benjaminthorpe33803 ай бұрын
I like my eddy currrent onslaught it slays.
@MM-he2iq3 ай бұрын
Can dungeon encounters be farmed right now or is it once per character per week until it’s in the weekly rotation? I can never remember
@sam_76603 ай бұрын
Newest dungeon can be farmed 😊
@Chobitus0072 ай бұрын
I Have arrowhead brake, armos piersing round, eddy current, and jolting feedback. Good enough??
@adhirg2 ай бұрын
it’ll take you a super long time to get an auto rifle drop that beats your current god roll, unless you’re extremely lucky. I’d say you’re good to go :) Eddy Current / Jolting Feedback is what I settled on for my roll, it’s a lot of fun and the two perks synergize together very well.
@TheNovemberman923 ай бұрын
I've got kill clip/killing wind and a target lock fragile focus both feel great I use the fragile target lock more thought as it has better barrel, mag and m.w so it feels better overall for 1v1 but it absolutely shreds
@Dromniil3 ай бұрын
Love the look of it, early gang
@TsuriaDragon3 ай бұрын
Only got two of these one has Strategist and swashbuckler.
@ricklazb74933 ай бұрын
i don't play dungeons for the most part, gonna just wait til the new arc smg drops. it comes with jolying feedback as well. this auto looks great though
@SavvyMon43 ай бұрын
Apparently jolting feedback won’t be good on smg’s
@renzodaihannya86443 ай бұрын
Imma be honest. I still have no idea what deterministic recoil does. 80 is the most vertical on this weapon?? Even better than 100? 😅
@roymaldonado80673 ай бұрын
Imagine if you could get jolting feed back AND onslaught on this?! Missed opportunity
@gimmelucky26283 ай бұрын
i got the same perks on mine and it’s sooo good
@threeofjays64203 ай бұрын
My problem with it that you can pair anything with target lock
@konteezy2033 ай бұрын
I want this with attrition and jolting feedback. Probably will never get it tho
@apwuzhere3 ай бұрын
Someone I know said they got rewind rounds in the 3rd column. I've also heard that all the perks for the dungeon weapons aren't showing in the database yet. Can anyone confirm?
@adhirg2 ай бұрын
Pyroelectric Propellant does not roll with Rewind Rounds. your friend is a liar lol! database should be fully up to date at this point in time.
@AndrewOnYoutube3 ай бұрын
GUY, YOU ARE SO COOL!
@viperwolfknife6303 ай бұрын
I've only done one dungeon run so far, but I got a great roll on a heavy GL and the breech load void GL (both of those weapons go hard!). I also got one drop of this auto and my roll is about half pvp, half pve, but I like it: Hammerforged | Ricochet | Eddy Current | Kill Clip with a Ballistics mod. I'll definitely be hoping for a Stategist or Attrition + Jolting roll as well. Thanks for another fantastic breakdown!
@GABOTHE5TH3 ай бұрын
Strategist jolting feedback with gifted conviction is super fun, farming bygones in gambit i had Ascension up after like 4 ad kills its so silly
@bronybro16163 ай бұрын
I want to see jolting feedback and voltshot lol
@mitchellg62423 ай бұрын
I've got the attrition orbs and jolting feedback combo and love it.
@emmisaryofgilameir19463 ай бұрын
It's a nice weapon- but the model is so big, when sprinting you CANNOT see what's directly infront of you unless you aim downwards a bit so you can see over the huge model
@vanevans18013 ай бұрын
I love that sight
@McKenToasty3 ай бұрын
Is vespers host farmable?
@sourakotsos2 ай бұрын
How are you guys getting this weapon? I am only getting armor out of this dungeon.