Mulan 2020 Explained - Historical and Cultural Accuracy Review (Deep Dive)

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Cool History Bros

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3 жыл бұрын

As promised, here is an evaluation of Live Action Mulan's historical and cultural accuracy. I hope you all learned something in return of the pain this movie had inflicted upon me.
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@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 3 жыл бұрын
Never trust those fortune cookies, if you know what I mean.
@blacktemplar7087
@blacktemplar7087 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a patreon or subscribestar for people to support your channel?
@r.babylon2885
@r.babylon2885 3 жыл бұрын
I love your humor in these videos
@r.babylon2885
@r.babylon2885 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little new to your videos, but can you do a series on the Netflix show, Marco Polo? I know it's horribly inaccurate to history, but I love it. I'd like to see what you have to say about it. The reason I bring it up at all, is actually because of your trebuchet subject. If you watch the show, you'll see why.
@Abeturk
@Abeturk 3 жыл бұрын
Mulan= Ma-u-oğlan= Not-it-boy,,,,, it's like turkish Demir=Temür=iron (ferroum) Çün=(chun)=factor (agency /being agent of..) Demirci=Temurçi= ironsmith (temuçin= mongolian) Deńiz= Thengiz= Sea ( tchengis= mongolian) Denizci=seaman Kak-mak= to direct (Yukarı Kalk) Yukarı Kak= (direct (yourself) up) =Get up (Kak-der-mak) Kaktırmak= to steer Bunu Kaktır= steer this ...(Bunu Kalktır)=Bunu Kaldır=lift/remove this .. Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)= one =fore/ first Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one directs )= Who's directing Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning) Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning) (Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose) Bür-ek= what to wring by twisting (börek=patty) (mantı=pasty) Han = director- manager-leader religious leader=Kohen (who directs us regarding the future=Kahin) Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=the religious manager Kul =servant Han Kul'u = The servant of emperor =public servant Yaban = out of center =Jaban=Japan Yabancı = the outer of center= outsider=foreigner (Yaban Halk)=Japon halkı=Japan People=off-center people (just by us) but (2.hun=ni-fun)Nippon people for the Japanese
@JonasUllenius
@JonasUllenius 3 жыл бұрын
What does kung fu, this mean? 坤卦符 = effort
@ginniem9779
@ginniem9779 3 жыл бұрын
1) As a Korean, I can say I've heard several Koreans expressing shock over Disney's live adaptation of Mulan when the chancellor looked the emperor straight in the eye when speaking to him. People could not look the emperor or king in the eye unless given permission. In all Korean dramas set in Goryeo or Joseon Dynasties, chancellors/servants look at the floor when speaking and never look at the king, and the same would apply to an emperor, which was a position reserved only for the Chinese monarch and not the Korean one, as Korea was a vassal state. 2) The chancellor in Mulan wears yellow clothes, which shocked viewers -- yellow was a color reserved only for the emperor. No one else could wear it. That is why Korean monarchs always wore red clothes and never a yellow one, until King Gojong declared the nominal Korean Empire in the late 1880s. 3) Another thing that shocked Korean viewers was when the emperor had the chancellor deliver a sword to Mulan. In old Asian culture, if the monarch delivered a sword to you instead of giving it to you in person, it was a way of telling you to commit suicide. Overall, the film had so many inaccuracies.
@Borderose
@Borderose 3 жыл бұрын
The whole thing was basically a generic European-based fantasy world with oriental paint. The court dynamics in the movie nowhere near resemble the minefield/orchestra of propriety and decorum that were the courts revolving around East Asian monarchs. The Chinese Emperor is the Son of Heaven and has more in common with the Pope or a Roman Augustus than with what most westerners imagine as "kings".
@randombrokeperson
@randombrokeperson 3 жыл бұрын
As I read your post, it just got worse and worse... They really screwed the pooch with this film. Thanks for the small history lesson! 😉 10/23/20 @ 1:29am
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
And so had things like Beauty and the Beast, Vikings, Tangled (especially that one) etc. etc. And no one gives a shit, why are you all shocked about this one?
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Borderose And how should Disney have shown that in a kids movie?
@Borderose
@Borderose 3 жыл бұрын
@@inotaishu1 By showing the Emperor figure the proper due reverence. That's it. Treat him like a holy figure. As he was.
@therealGibralter
@therealGibralter 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like taking a story about hard work and overcoming the odds, to "you're the special!"
@dezopenguin9649
@dezopenguin9649 3 жыл бұрын
"But a woman can't be any good at war without superpowers!" -- Disney, probably
@siphu
@siphu 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, Disney did the exact same thing with Star wars.
@KaiserAfini
@KaiserAfini 5 ай бұрын
In their original attempt, Mulan was creative, intelligent and above all else, very determined. So even though she struggled to gain the skills and conditioning, when she excelled, she had earned every bit of those victories.
@DungeonerHarold
@DungeonerHarold 3 жыл бұрын
5 out of 5 stars! On this review, not the movie.
@charity6372
@charity6372 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@tablestirne9879
@tablestirne9879 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree The movie is trash But this channel is great
@allansh828
@allansh828 3 жыл бұрын
so the northern dynasty enlisted man from every household in the southern dynasty. Imagine the northern Amy enlisted man from every household in Texas during American civil war. According to the scenery, Mulan traveled from today’s Fujian province to Yunnan province, then to the north, then to the west. The whole journey would be at least 7000 km, which is mostly mountainous. It would take at least a couple of years. Mulan dresses like a Japanese. The emperor dresses like from Min Dynasty, living in a Tang Dynasty palace. But the northern dynasties are known for their frugalness. Calligraphies are bad, even for today’s elementary school kids. And they write in Yan Zhenqing’s style, 300 years before Yan Zhenqing was born. The whole thing is just laughable to any Chinese people.
@Borderose
@Borderose 3 жыл бұрын
The court ladies also loiter around the imperial palace like it was Versailles. Rubs me off wrong. No solemness at all.
@siphu
@siphu 3 жыл бұрын
How is she dressing like a japanese?
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that this version of Mulan is based on the original poem. The family name, the emperor, the fenghuang, all suggest a much later version of her when the character had already been turned into a Han instead of a Wei.
@azureascendant994
@azureascendant994 2 жыл бұрын
Fun facts: - There were no witches in ancient China. - Only Emperor wore yellow. - The Phoenix represents the empress. - Women could learn martial arts.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact too No "kung fu" before Ming dynasty So no Fancy "everybody kung fu fighting" during this era
@KaiserAfini
@KaiserAfini 5 ай бұрын
Although not malevolent like a witch, wouldn't He Xiangu count as a mythological example of a magician ? She was one of the eight immortals, therefore she was a xian.
@azureascendant994
@azureascendant994 5 ай бұрын
@@KaiserAfini Immortal He Xiangu is more of a prophetess or oracle than a mystic or a magician. Her foresight abilities were manifested in her by divine will and guidance. The closest thing i can think to a 'magician' in Chinese culture is the Taoist 'mystical arts' practitioners who studied to gain their skills.
@SirIkeMedia
@SirIkeMedia 3 жыл бұрын
The shopping list bit killed me! XD
@addisshiberou2818
@addisshiberou2818 3 жыл бұрын
"it looked like it was written by a kindergartener!" that was soo funny
@GilangRabbani
@GilangRabbani 3 жыл бұрын
Me and the blokes seeing the atrocities Disney made; "We are the knights who says, 你 !!!"
@GilangRabbani
@GilangRabbani 3 жыл бұрын
could've aced the comment by saying fellow Daoist instead of the blokes, but ye
@baabaaer
@baabaaer 3 жыл бұрын
女!女!
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 3 жыл бұрын
Including the concentration camp in the background, and the cooperation with CCP and camp officials
@mnbr6884
@mnbr6884 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwilliams1065 Thats from the onion.
@sabaki16
@sabaki16 2 жыл бұрын
As always, a great, honest review. Disney's Mulan is another example of how this company values entertainment for the sake of sales by targeting themes & ideas they believe their audience can relate to. The problem with this thought process is it continues to promote misinformation, as well as gives an inaccurate picture of different cultures.
@tengizuatkan3188
@tengizuatkan3188 3 жыл бұрын
Culture from a Turkic prospective: one of the misinterpretations of our culture is that birds are holy animals, not demons, only underground animals are demonic.
@stump4522
@stump4522 Жыл бұрын
What about sea creatures lol
@BloodnSteel
@BloodnSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Great historical analysis here again CJ, I was hoping to hear about this soon. also thanks for not exploding into an aggressive critique of the film either, as it has turned into quite the controversy and virtually every other channel covers that angle of it. Nice to see a level-headed analysis for a change.
@klikssiikubra314
@klikssiikubra314 3 жыл бұрын
The Fenghuang/Phoenix thing is so sticky because of this one famous poem in the early 1900's, 凤凰涅磐. He's clearly describing the Western phoenix in this poem, with the ability to be reborn from fire, yet he gives it the name of Fenghuang. From that point on, the two got stapled together at the hip, even if it doesn't make much sense.
@mnbr6884
@mnbr6884 2 жыл бұрын
Much like the Western and Asian dragons, methinks.
@bmlgordon
@bmlgordon 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Love the detailed info on weapons, logistics, everything.
@williamturner6192
@williamturner6192 3 жыл бұрын
"Let's remember the real answer is somewhere in between ...and the other side says it's atrocious" that's good.
@Romellenios_Lanz_Daemos
@Romellenios_Lanz_Daemos 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) we're the first who constructed the Counter-weight Trebuchet using inspiration from the Chinese trebuchet (the one Cool History Bros mentioned, that uses Man-power) but yes the Arabs/Muslims engineers carried out the knowledge as the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) slowly declined.
@Mandragara
@Mandragara 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Western media really doesn't seem interested in an honest\accurate presentation of historical Asian cultures. Certainly still has an 'exotic oriential' feel to it
@qus.9617
@qus.9617 3 жыл бұрын
Marco Polo is well-received. I thought it was pretty bad and a wasted opportunity for an epic retelling of the Yuan dynasty and the Southern Song. Didn't care when it got cancelled, to be honest I was a bit relieved.
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
So the chinese versions of Mulan were accurate? Was the latest White Snake movie? Or lets go into the other direction: Were Frozen, Tangled or Vikings historically/culturally accurate?
@Omar_ayach
@Omar_ayach 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great content man
@bevenaflame
@bevenaflame 3 жыл бұрын
keep it up with the videos, really love them!
@Salbei17
@Salbei17 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel through this video, and I must say, I really like it! Take my subscription, you deserve it.
@dominicbarnes712
@dominicbarnes712 2 ай бұрын
Incredible video. Awesome job!
@hugolorente7705
@hugolorente7705 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content keep it up
@victorvvc1925
@victorvvc1925 3 жыл бұрын
Disney's way of thinking: OK, so this is supposed to happen somewhere in China (that nobody knows), so let's throw a lot of Chinesse sounding words and people will LOVE IT! What could go wrong?
@loltim2109
@loltim2109 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this interesting and informative video!
@dorjbayar1286
@dorjbayar1286 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this movie about a Mongolian civil war between Mongolic speaking Touba Wei people and Mongolic speaking Rouran people.
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 3 жыл бұрын
This is an impressively in-depth critique. I think the new Mulan was alright and not a train wreck everyone complains about. I didn't like that Mulan was special, when the entire point is that she was just a normal girl, who kept up with men. The training montage in the animation drove that point home, instead of her just being better than everyone else, like in the live action. My second complaint is magic bird witch, who doesn't really add anything to the story and lowers realism.
@tr1bes
@tr1bes 3 жыл бұрын
Usually ancient time, men keep their beard as sign of prestige. Kinda weird that Mulan's father doesn't have one. Since her father fought in so many wars and well known throughout the realms, he would be riched and perhaps have concubines with many children. Even if he is okay, people back then enforce more children to help out the family businesses.
@sardunai952
@sardunai952 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@ismata3274
@ismata3274 3 жыл бұрын
This was refreshing, thanks.
@silnetofsn
@silnetofsn 2 жыл бұрын
I came across this channel and am going to watch every video it has.
@maryllthemusicman1318
@maryllthemusicman1318 3 жыл бұрын
as a hakka i was so happy to see the tulou in Mulan as a hakka i'm now much happier that this video explains the tulou so nicely also by the very nature of tulou i would think the hakkas would have regular knowhow of war but yes probably not as much as garrison guards
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sick of people depicting northern nomads as black/dark clothes wearing boogiemen.
@KaiserAfini
@KaiserAfini 5 ай бұрын
Even if you consider standard tropes like cultivating Qi via Neidang, that requires meditation and probably learning daoyin soft combat styles from her father. Its not something you just do without earning it through self discipline, so Mulan simply being able to use it instinctively undermines its significance.
@miraclemay24
@miraclemay24 3 жыл бұрын
Loyal, brave, tampon.. lol. That cracked me out
@MCorpReview
@MCorpReview 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing attention to detail. Umay get an offer from Disney soon 😀 This is your best/funniest work yet. (Disney share price starts to drop...)
@self-parternerd8661
@self-parternerd8661 2 жыл бұрын
- This might be the most positive review of Live-action Mulan that I have ever seen!
@FlyingDominion
@FlyingDominion 3 жыл бұрын
0:35 Oh yeah, I haven't seen this yet and still plan to. I actually wasn't thinking about that. Thanks.
@stefunnylim
@stefunnylim 3 жыл бұрын
i came across your vid when i was actively looking for all the other mulan 2020 bashing vids and i loved it! i am a huge, huge fan of 武侠novels and i love the worlds that great authors such as 金庸/古龙/梁羽生 have created- and i really like how you explained 武侠 (how it adds a little bit of excitement to an otherwise mundane world, while being somewhat historically grounded - and the idea of some people having better potential than others = being able to learn 武功 faster, i find that a lot of people just generally diss the misuse of 'qi' in the film and don't give a good enough explanation of it). instant sub haha that said, i think that having actual chinese representation matters (on the team of scriptwriters/director). personally i think unless the white(/non-chinese) person has lived extensively in china + truly understands the nuances in the culture, it's just not going to be the same because it's not really the same as reading a ton of papers/ doing research about the culture, yknow? (personally, i'm southeast asian chinese with Chinese grandparents who came over from China - while i speak the language/read the books/understand quite a fair bit about their society/relate to a lot of experiences that mainland Chinese have BUT at the end of the day my perspective is still going to be very different from theirs; and this difference might possibly come through when i'm trying to tell a story). (but i do get what you mean - esp w 李安's brokeback mountain)
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
But how would modern day chinese culture prepare you for something that is based on a story that is more than a thousand years old? It is like going to modern England and then thinking it will prepare you for the culture of the time of the alleged King Arthur?
@sleepyprinny
@sleepyprinny 2 жыл бұрын
I learned that a half assed attempt at 'cultural consideration' can result in a really insulting and grossly inaccurate dumpster fire....
@GarrettPetersen
@GarrettPetersen Жыл бұрын
4:18 Yue Fei reference!
@nematarot7728
@nematarot7728 3 жыл бұрын
This video was great 🤣🍋🍋🍋🍹🍹🍹 also, I would love a video on wuxia and Xian xia! I’m new to wuxia and Xian xia and loving it so much!
@millardfillmore2869
@millardfillmore2869 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly people shouldn’t give money to bad live action remakes. They are only made as cash grabs, add nothing to the original, and are just lazy. And if we keep rewarding these massive companies for being lazy, they won’t make anything good.
@schadenfreude6274
@schadenfreude6274 3 жыл бұрын
The people who made Disney's Live Action Mulan probably thought a Samurai is from China, Beijing is the Capital of Mexico, and the most exquisite Chinese Cuisine ever invented is Panda Express.
@hishot1078
@hishot1078 2 жыл бұрын
CJ, regarding the cutting hair, what was the hair style of Xianbei?
@wuthichaiauomsin6237
@wuthichaiauomsin6237 3 жыл бұрын
Disney should just wait Ang Lee to Finish Gemini Man or hire Zhang Yimou
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
they would get shit for that also. I doubt that this criticism of Mulan has anything to do with its elements, I think the criticism is based on the makers not being of the correct "race"
@PixieElixir
@PixieElixir 3 жыл бұрын
@@inotaishu1 ?
@appa609
@appa609 2 жыл бұрын
I know this poem by heart. She's never stated to have gone to the Yan mountains. It says she heard the cries of Yan mountain cavalry, mesning cavalry from that region. This is also just one line after it states she had just reached the black mountain so the frontline was somewhere near there.
@guldar360
@guldar360 3 жыл бұрын
She also live in a Toulu, a round house, which existed many centuries ago from Mulan's time.
@m.j.vazquez4720
@m.j.vazquez4720 3 жыл бұрын
in your opinion if someone wanted to try and portray a " historically " accurate mulan what should she look like ?
@jtm1283
@jtm1283 3 жыл бұрын
I had to pause for quite a while at 1:32, going back and forth between the locations given in your map and those in other maps.
@Sancsentity
@Sancsentity 3 жыл бұрын
6:05 Chen Mou's geniuses head wear?
@Speculativedude
@Speculativedude 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out about Qi (Chi) I think an easy comparison to make is that someone born with a genius level I.Q. still has to learn things, yes they can usually learn faster and understand things better at a younger age, but they still need to learn or it is just a waste.
@gulflander6313
@gulflander6313 3 жыл бұрын
@6:26 what title of animation? thanks
@karinschultz5409
@karinschultz5409 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. The shopping sword list was a "gem". But what can you expect from a company that invented Mickey Mouse, Goofy, and twisted the tales of the Brothers Grimm just to entertain. Just wonder if Disney will construct a Mulan inspired theme park like they did with James Cameron's Avatar. If they do, they should hire you to critique the set!
@tonyl9051
@tonyl9051 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video about Hakka people? Thank you.
@zhubajie6940
@zhubajie6940 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 1000%.
@syncmaster915n
@syncmaster915n 3 жыл бұрын
If fortune cookie was invented in Qing Dynasty, Disney would have somehow written it into the script.
@sitoudien9816
@sitoudien9816 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a take down of the Last Samurai.
@5h0rgunn45
@5h0rgunn45 3 жыл бұрын
Also, in Wade-Giles, qi is spelled ch'i. The apostrophe is important because it tells you whether or not the preceding consonant is aspirated. The difference in Mandarin is vital. It'd be like using the 'ch' and 'j' sounds interchangeably, like spelling 'batch' as 'badge'.
@amethyst5538
@amethyst5538 3 жыл бұрын
The burns are awesome, because of the truth.
@a3onz3ro31
@a3onz3ro31 3 жыл бұрын
do you have a bilibili ? To be honest many Chinese even don't know deep of their ancient history
@iristian6145
@iristian6145 3 жыл бұрын
At least we can recognize the ridiculousness in this movie
@peterwindhorst5775
@peterwindhorst5775 3 жыл бұрын
There is a theory there was more than one Mulan - 1. Yue Nu, martial artist (who used Qi - who trained with a stick against a white gibbon) and heroine of the Yue State. Fate = suicide, posthumous goddess. 2. Northern Wei Dynasty (not Mongolian, but a Xianbei Tartar States. The Xianbei was added to the Mongols much, much later) Fate = prostitute. 3. Red Sleeved Maiden, Tang Dynasty. Fate = happy ending and marries a famous General (Tulou is possible in Sui / Tang transition for Mulan). 4. Other women whose names were lost to history (in one of these many, many versions - Mulan's father was quite rich and with said wealth, she bought herself armor and outfitted her own regiment). Fate = Unknown. Then along came the Yuan, Ming , and Qing Dynasties - which combined them into a single personage much like our King Arthur. They combined her into a single person due to Han Chinese nationalism - they did not like being ruled by a foreign dynasty and needed a hero that could kick the asses of the villains of the week.
@alexdhamp
@alexdhamp Ай бұрын
Wait...so phoenix was a foreign concept in China? So the show Ashes of Love used the foreign concept of a Phoenix, then, as the male lead basically rose from the dead as a Phoenix.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros Ай бұрын
Yes. It does get conflated nowadays due to the influence foreign fantasy tropes. You won't find this in classical literature.
@jeffreydescartin5324
@jeffreydescartin5324 2 жыл бұрын
The counter-weight trebuchet was used during the siege of Xiangyang in 1273. Diaoyu Fortress was not destroyed nor was it conquered by force.
@donnguyen1107
@donnguyen1107 4 ай бұрын
If I had the time and resources I could do a Mulan story a lot better with the info i can get on the Xianbei and Mulan's life and dynamics with her friends and family. Also with the poem some find that with lack of anything confirming or denying her actually disguising herself or taking a fake male identity other than her war buddies' shock at seeing her in her female clothes at the end, very possible she WAS conscripting as a woman all along but her fellow soldiers just never noticed when she had her battle gear on, especially with her line of how male rabbits hop and skip, female rabbits have muddled eyes, but when they run side by side you can't tell their genders (rabbits in nature aren't very sexually dimorphic). See previous: as far as giving her an animal sidekick or guide it'd be soo fun for her to actually have a rabbit or two beside her.
@donnguyen1107
@donnguyen1107 4 ай бұрын
Like for Mulan try opening with young Mulan at the loom in her garrison home but then her father comes back from a battle, she runs to him with joy and he smiles and hugs her back despite carrying a crippling battle wound. And if her mother WAS Han chinese like some versions imagine Mulan agrees to meet with a matchmaker but of course the incident happens but Mulan is called a 'barbarian' by the matchmaker for rushing to fix a mistake or for releasing a bug/animal or other. Hence Mulan's identity crisis should she be Xianbei and Han Chinese or just being between idealogies. Then comes the conscription for the turf war with the Rourans and Mulan slips off her dress and makeup and puts on the armor (or shoutout to hunger games openly volunteers herself as conscript) but of course is a newbie as a warrior and gets pushed around by the other recruits until proving herself. Also as far as Xianniang, prob have her be a warrior princess from a tribe (the Xia in some stories) that the Rourans threaten her father into joining and she wants a way to stop the war and finds help in Mulan. And as far as a sister or siblings, prob have Mulan's mother be pregnant when she leaves, raising the stakes of the family needing the father. Also the leader being a Khan can be just as grandiose and even badass as an emperor.
@weifan9533
@weifan9533 3 жыл бұрын
Diaoyu fortress was not destroyed by counterweight trebuchet. It was built on top of a hill some 400m high and surrounded by rivers on three sides, hence rendering the use of trebuchet pretty much useless against this fortress. The defenders of that fortress finally capitulated to the Yuan Dynasty in 1279 after a series of negotiations and bribery.
@yari6309
@yari6309 3 жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals actually make a video about Mongol Siege Machine.
@SimonSozzi7258
@SimonSozzi7258 Жыл бұрын
But "Loyal Brave Tampon" is just a literal translation of her name. 🙏
@andrewbatist6355
@andrewbatist6355 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with every point of yours. but the Witch being Xian Xia style among everyone else is forgiveable. they want a Disney shapeshifter villain like maleficent and jafar. i actually find interesting choice this crossing of styles. it gives the impression that is the same universe as most other disney live actions.
@jack-exzolt9858
@jack-exzolt9858 3 жыл бұрын
Like Snake once said; "Those engravings give you no tactical advantage..." But honestly those engravings are the equivalent of a westerner tatooing Chinese or Japanese characters of the words "Smelly Chicken Soup".
@hayleywegman6799
@hayleywegman6799 3 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing a lot comments saying it wasn't a documentary... Well that's because Mulan is a fictional poem. Also Disney advertised this to be culturally accurate and it wasn't. The way they talked about Qi was like the force. If I wanted to watch Star Wars I would have. Also "witches" were typically healers or advisors in eastern culture. And even if that wasn't the case. That is still no excuse for the complete trash they turned a beautiful poem and one of the best animated movies from the 90s into. For one, I was completely caught up in all the characters in the animated movie. This movie, they didn't even bother to let us form attachments to any character. Or even showb that she had any type of relationship with anyone even thouhh they were supposed to be here friends... Not even Mulan had any character building. And they took a well rounded female protagonist and Mary Sued her. She didn't have to work for anything. She was only the main character because her name is the title. Disney is also supposed to make movie depicting women as equal to men and in this they pretty said you weild the force like a man so we'll accept you like you were a man..
@Speculativedude
@Speculativedude 3 жыл бұрын
One that I don't see mentioned in the comments so far is that when she says she would rather be executed than be given dishonor that would have been seen as EXTREMELY selfish as in this case it would have been a lesser punishment.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 3 жыл бұрын
Did you spot the concentration camp in the background?
@vng
@vng 2 жыл бұрын
The deep dive (dis) of Mulan 2020... haha
@syncmaster915n
@syncmaster915n 3 жыл бұрын
I think you got the siege of Diaoyu Fortress wrong. Diaoyu Fortress in Sichuan survived the first Mongol onslaught in 1241AD. This is where the Mongol khan Ogedei died btw (rumor was that he was hit by a rock). The Muslim trebuchets were used however in bringing down the fortress city of Xiangyang during the second Mongol invasion (1272AD). The fall of Xiangyang effectively bypassed the usefulness of Diaoyu Fortress and heralded the end of Southern Song.
@chiodh
@chiodh 3 жыл бұрын
"freaking wolverine"....hahahahahaha
@helengao6093
@helengao6093 Жыл бұрын
Are these Ming dynasty soldiers? 12:47
@helengao6093
@helengao6093 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I mean these soldiers. -12:51
@helengao6093
@helengao6093 Жыл бұрын
The soldiers holding the crossbows.
@eclair6910
@eclair6910 3 жыл бұрын
There is another review on the cultural and historical accuracy that has hundreds of thousand more views than this video. It's also made by a Chinese person.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 3 жыл бұрын
Yea! Love Xiran's video.
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
You mean that one by the incredibly arrogant and constantly triggered woman?
@hayleywegman6799
@hayleywegman6799 3 жыл бұрын
Xiran is great. I liked her video too.
@DanBurgaud
@DanBurgaud 3 жыл бұрын
This movie was released at a wrong time when RACISM was high. It was not highly accepted in West, and was not accepted in China as well. Likewise, the script lack depth.
@Shin_Lona
@Shin_Lona 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it really has anything to do with racism. Anti-China sentiment is political - the West is in support of Hong Kong and Taiwan, after all. If anything, it more relates to the backlash against Disney. Between the woke social justice nonsense and the fact that they ruined Star Wars, many people are upset and boycotting everything Disney puts out.
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this movie used Cultural Accuracy as an excuse to film near Muslim Concentration Camps
@SM-gd2rn
@SM-gd2rn 3 жыл бұрын
5:48 actually this text is Arabic
@robertskrzynski2768
@robertskrzynski2768 3 жыл бұрын
Could Mulan be of Russian or Swedish Viking descent making her a tall blonde girl.
@xhoques
@xhoques Жыл бұрын
Omg after 2y I almost forgot how Mulan's father resembles so to a certain president and for a moment I thought you were trolling lol
@helengao6093
@helengao6093 Жыл бұрын
I studied the historical accuracy of the return of the condor heros film and there depiction of the siege of xiangyang is just some rewritten bloney. For example, the mongols using cannons to blow up the city wall and the song army winning the battle at the very end is just fake. In real history cannons are’nt even developed yet, there were gunpowder weapons that time that worked like cannons but they did not look like the ones used by the mongol army in the film. Furthermore, in the real battle, the mongols didn’t even use gunpowder to conquer xiangyang. Instead, only the song army used it to fight off the mongols in real life. Historical records said that the song army used a kind of hallow tube filled with gunpowder that launched a projectile at the enemy and it mentioned that this weapon was used to stop mongol adavances so that the soldiers in xiangyang city could get reinforced with food supplies and other stuff. Plus, in real history, the mongols won the battle instead of the song soldiers. However, the only accurate part of the siege of xiangyang in the condor heros is basically the mongol army’s trebuchets which was there only weapon of success during the real siege.
@kaychan3676
@kaychan3676 3 жыл бұрын
If she wasn't Han Chinese then why compare the issues in the movie with Han Chinese customs or tradition?
@NapoleonAquila
@NapoleonAquila 3 жыл бұрын
13:35 Wow a movie I never heard of and ofc I don't care at the end
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
This is way better than many of the other "accuracy" videos in not being a constant rant, but please answer me one thing: Why are you constantly referencing the Wei, when so many of the other historical retellings of Mulan had her as a Han already? And based on your video, Disney did actually know its stuff and probably knew modern chinese culture better than many people think, it's just that it's the tropes and other things that so many dislike. Because trust me, Disney didn't take any more liberties with this movie than god knows how many from China itself did.
@kf4018
@kf4018 2 жыл бұрын
Omg this is the first video I have seen covering the movies' stupid interpretation of 'qi power' ... When I was in the cinema watching this, I remember literally uttering out to my boyfriend seated next to me, SINCE WHEN WAS QI SEXIST lmao
@vincently1995
@vincently1995 2 жыл бұрын
#Mulan
@iristian6145
@iristian6145 3 жыл бұрын
Anyway, Mulan is an American movie made by American who know little about Chinese culture for Americans who also know little about Chinese culture. I don’t have problem with that, just a way to make money for Disney. I haven’t seen the movie because the trailer shows too much “Chinese “ things, some of which are too obvious to identify the time and location(which are far away from mulan story), others are just “fortune cookie “ Chinese.
@hayleywegman6799
@hayleywegman6799 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so even if it was supposed to be made by ignorance for ignorance then why tell it's culturally correct? Also it wasn't even well thought out. There was NO character building or real story building even... The movie was terrible, slightly sexist, and a little racist as well...
@ericstorm4613
@ericstorm4613 2 жыл бұрын
Tampom? come om🤣
@hanzocloud
@hanzocloud 2 жыл бұрын
at least they used a chinese girl to play mulan's part. Looking at you Prince of Persia..
@KimTaeHwan114
@KimTaeHwan114 3 жыл бұрын
4:07 Oh my god......such a waste of money with meaningless letters! XD
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 3 жыл бұрын
You repeated the Man/Emperor tag for both the Phoenix and the Dragon.
@CoolHistoryBros
@CoolHistoryBros 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! Thanks for catching that.
@user-lh5sp1lg8d
@user-lh5sp1lg8d 3 жыл бұрын
Long and Feng can be male.
@christianbagnall9138
@christianbagnall9138 3 жыл бұрын
200 Million Dollars Budget, Box office less than 70 Million Dollars and they want to make a sequel, what a waste of time and money.
@inspired.c
@inspired.c Жыл бұрын
Yay, a lot of these live actions should have never exist in the first place.
@Abeturk
@Abeturk 3 жыл бұрын
The language of Thoeruk people living on the planet W.. Mak/Mek...(emek)=exertion (process) Çün=(chun)=factor Ka=(Qua)= (which) U=(ou)= it's (that) (Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that (Çün-ka-u)=(factor-which-that) =Çünki =(c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why)=(therefore)= Because U-Çün = that Factor İçün=it's for= için=for Gel-mek için = for coming =(it's factor to the process of coming) Görmek için= for seeing Gitmek için= for going for deriving new adjectives from verbs A/e=to ...A/e U-Çün =It's Factor To .. suffixes..(Icı-ici-ucu-ücü) (the pronunciation is like~yuji) (geç-e-u-çün) =it has the factor to pass =Geçici = transient /temporary (uç-a-u-çün) =it has the factor to fly = Uçucu = volatile (kal-a-u-çün) =it has the factor to stay = Kalıcı = permanent (yan-a-u-çün) =it has the factor to burn out = Yanıcı = flammable (yanıcı madde=flammable material) (bağla-y-a-u-çün) =it has the factor to biind/connect = Bağlayıcı = binding/connective for deriving new adjectives from nouns and adjectives Çün=factor (agency /being agent of..) suffixes.. (Cı-ci-cu-cü) or (Çı-çi-çu-çü) = (jui / tchui ) Yaban-cı = (outsider)=foreign-er İş-çi= work-er kapıcı=doorman demirci=ironsmith gemici=sailor denizci=seaman for deriving adjectives from the numbers U-Ne-Çün =that-what-factor suffixes..(Ncı-ncu-nci-ncü) (Bir-u-ne-çün)=Birinci= ~first (initial) (İki-u-ne-çün)= İkinci= second (Üç-u-ne-çün)= Üçüncü=third (Bin-u-ne-çün)=Bininci=thousandth (Ou)=U=( it's - that) (Mã-u)=(Mu)=Bu= this (Thã-u)=(Tsu)=Şu= that (şu=~xiou) ..(ts=~th)=θ (Hã-u)=(Hou)=O= it (he /she) (Al /El)=(bearer /carrier) (Iz- uz) = S (plural suffix for doubling) Der/Dar=(der)= diger= other ...(dar)=(nearest to the other) (Ler/Lar= plural suffixes) (ɜ:ne)=Eun= Ön= (fore/first) = uno/ one (ön,ce=~first,ly)-(öncesi=~before)-(öncü=pioneer) (Kendi= own)=(Ka-eun-de-u= which's at fore/which one at first) (ɜ:z=euz=Öz= self ) (kendisi=own self/ oneself) (This one)= Mu-eun= (Men)= Ben= Me (That one)= Tsu-eun= (xien/thien)= Sen= You (These ones)= Mu-eun-iz=(miŋiz)=Biz = We (Those ones)=Tsu-eun-iz=(siŋiz)= Siz =You (Plural) Ou-al=Ol =O= it (he /she) El=someone else (bearer / hand) (El-der)= Eller= other people (different persons) Ou-al-dar= (Ouldar) =Onlar (The bearer and other-s nearest to it/him) Ou-eun-dar= (Ondar)=Onlar= They Dayı=(maternal) uncle Dayım=my uncle Dayımlar=my uncle and other ones closest to him=(~my uncle and his family) or (~my uncle and his close friends) Dayılarım=my uncles ikiz=(two similar ones) =twin ikiler =two and other dual ones üçüz=(three similar ones)=triplet üçler = three and other triple ones Men-niŋ=Meniŋ=Benim=My Sen-niŋ=Seniŋ=Senin=Your Ou-al-niŋ=Olniŋ=Onun=his/her/its Miŋiz-niŋ=Bizniŋ=Bizim=our Siŋiz-niŋ=Sizniŋ=Sizin=your (Plural) Ou-al-dar-niŋ=Oldarnıŋ=Onların=their Ka=(Qua)= which U=(ou)= it's (that) Ka-u=Ki=(Qui)=which that (Meniŋ-ka-u):=which that my...= benimki=mine (Seniŋ-ka-u):=which that your = seninki=yours (Olniŋ-ka-u):=which that his/her/its= onunki= his/hers/its Annemin pişirdiği tavuk çorbası =(Anne-m-niŋ Biş-dir-di-ka-u Tavğuk Şorba-tsu)= the chicken soup which (that belong) my mom cook-ed... Arkadaşımdan bana gelğen mektubu okudum= (Arkadaş-ım-dan baŋ-a (gel-ka-eun) mektup-u oku-du-m)= I've read the-letter (which-one-comes) from my friend to me Sen eve giderken = (Sen Ev-e Git-e-er u-ka-en) = (that-which-time You get-to-Go to-Home)= While you go home Seni gördüğüm yer = (Sen-u Gör-dü-ka-u-m yer) = (which-that-place (belong) I Saw (that) You) = Where I saw you İşe başlayacağı gün= iş-e başla-y'a-çak-ka-u gün (.Ki o gün işe başlayacak)=(which) the day s/he's gonna start to work
@t3ngrist620
@t3ngrist620 Жыл бұрын
tuoba is branch of mongolic xianbei who were in conflict with superior other branch which is rouran who were ruling steppe after xianbei's fall in steppe. thus, tuoba moved south and established their dominion in northern china. these were proto-mongolic states which did split after the collapse of xiongnu (hunnu) and ruled steppe untill turkic tribes rose to power in 6th century. as mulan, the name is the chinese variation her real name could be any other like mongolian "Hulan" or Kulan" sources say that she were from royal lineage and leads tuoba soldiers against rouran alongside with her cousins and generals. it is chinese nature to claim that everyone who conquered china as chinese which is so misleading and propagandic
@angelabby2379
@angelabby2379 3 жыл бұрын
1. the live action mulan is set in Tang dynasty -__-" as u are aware, mulan is tale that has their own version every dynasty, so they can pick Tang dynasty since its the chinese golden age and not far off northern wei 2. mulan is han chinese lol not xianbei, their ruler is xianbei while the majority of citizens is still han chinese, not like its a different since xianbei assimilated to han chinese culture, same with khitan, while uyghur still has some kind of central asian culture and clothing. and mongols, manchurian are nomadic tribe 3. in the movie, the bori khan said to the emperor, that the emperor taizong build daming palace in honor of his father emperor gaozu, which is 620 AD 4. the city in the movie is literally recreation of Chang'an tang dynasty, they even have the pagoda built by Emperor Taizong son Gaozong later in 660 onwards
@ffffffff5500
@ffffffff5500 3 жыл бұрын
Fbi sword.
@inotaishu1
@inotaishu1 3 жыл бұрын
where in the movie did they keep using the image of the phoenix reemerging from fire? There was one sentence at the very start and that was it. That phoenix is clearly closer to the FengHuang than the phoenix and are you sure they didn't mix in the vermillion bird of the south into this bird? And since you mentioned the Untamed, that show used the concept of honor/shame way more than the Mulan movies by Disney did, so why is that so aggravating to you in Mulan but seemingly not in the Untamed? Not to mention that neither portrays shame/losing face as serious as it could get during the imperial dynasties. Trust me, I read things done to save face that would make you turn into the Hulk because of all the rage it would generate.
@phillipgagnon7151
@phillipgagnon7151 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t learn anything
@macrick
@macrick 3 жыл бұрын
6:20 I read up on the "mythology" of the Hakka dialect group. It seems you believed the myth as well. There some DNA research done on the Y markers. Apparently, they are indistinguishable from any Southern Chinese. Also, this dialect group does not practice foot binding like the typical sinicized Southern Chinese. My guess they are probably a recently assimilated group. I inherited the language from my maternal side
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