Coping With The Promised Neverland Season 2

[@balisongnerd]

The Promised Neverland is working well as a manga advertisement, because now I want to go read the manga

[@odin5394]

would highly recommend reading the manga as there is so much currently missing in the anime

[@JustEverton]

Other Mangaka artist: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!

[@thewitchofsloth]

I’m pretty sure that was the author’s intent... which pisses me off enough to NOT want to buy the manga.

[@appointedbard1076]

Good you do that trust me it’s worth it

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

1000 iq

[@pocketmonster1088]

I like how the studio somehow came to the conclusion that they needed to cut *the most popular arc* from Season 2

[@justinbuergi9867]

Feel like they wanted to finish the anime in 2 seasons because they were told there’d be no third season

[@M4ximi11i0n]

It wasn't the studio, it was the manga author

[@aamirahmed5842]

1) no the escape ark was, and 2) it was the author. The anime is prolly just going in a different path. Ik it sucks but we just have to see how it plays out.

[@justinbuergi9867]

@@aamirahmed5842 agreed. Escape arc is still the best And I think the new path can work. They’re doing a better job of emphasizing the parallels between humans and demons

[@shaunwayne8610]

@@justinbuergi9867 yes the ieda could be neat. But the implementation was bad. The last 2 episodes were not really good. If they don't manage to change the story and make good episodes I don't think this will end well.

[@KinglyRed]

I was actually kinda hoping they would change the events of the story a bit but so far the anime has been a prime example of pressing the Upgrade button and going "FUCK GO BACK!"

[@MrKilljay]

No bro. This was a downgrade from the beginning

[@hoodee1334]

Yeah I agree I thought the story felt rushed and progressively so right before and especially after goldy pond.

[@haosmagnaingram6992]

hood ee yeah it really seemed like it could have used an additional pass over like how One has been working Yusuke Murata to touch up and dramatically change the manga from the web comic source material having more hindsight on how he wants things to go.

[@alex_zetsu]

The author reacted badly to some fans not liking the ending of the source material. She (? It's a penname so gender should be unknown but the article said "she" so I guess the interviewer knew the author?) gave permission for a different ending and starting from the 2nd season, any deviation to lead up to it. Basically she said "If you have a better idea that doesn't conflict with the established worldbuilding, just use it and sell DVDs." I don't know if she gave permission for any specific changes or if she just basically gave a blank check to change stuff. I fully agree this is an example of when you want to "rollback"

[@joeywheelercabrosky528]

This video hurts a lot more given the slideshow shitshow we got from this season's finale.

[@meursaulty6672]

I can't believe they had the audacity to show us still images of events that could have taken up 3 more seasons.

[@dolliedearestt]

@@meursaulty6672 they literally met god and it was a 1 second clip lmao

[@svk0531]

@@meursaulty6672 exactly, and mha had went through 20 volumes by season 4

[@ryokami_needs_coffee]

It hurts so much when he says "in the next sesaon- if there will be one" and we get the freaking PowerPoint

[@Suguri]

TPN manga: Yeah, kinda rushed it at the end there, sorry about that. TPN anime: *Chucks its beer at the manga from behind the wheel of a speeding car*

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House > TPN Prove me wrong😤

[@Saiyagami]

@@batmeme9349 TPN > Shadows House I just did

[@batmeme9349]

@@Saiyagami Shadows House >> TPN Try again😏

[@martinhilario5433]

@@batmeme9349 TPN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shadows house

[@batmeme9349]

@@martinhilario5433 Shadows House >(∞) TPN Try again🙃

[@BlueSkyBS]

"Cope or Hope?" I choose the third option: NOPE.

[@soooslaaal8204]

Ismt that Danganronpa V3?

[@Brindlebrother]

your decision is dope.

[@angeluriel2725]

Can't blame positive options coming from the anime pope

[@iftikarrot8034]

I need a rope

[@Luv4Jay1]

@thedegenerateotaku Lmaoo ikr

[@machodgdon]

When you gotta rationalize that this is a parallel universe to justify why so much content has been skipped, you know your adaptation has gone off the rails

[@Eariosa]

Lol im like how does this make this sense ?

[@brendanb2982]

But first we need to talk about parallel universes

[@manuj9570]

@A B C D exactly , I was wondering one day what if earth had a more intelligent race than humans and they ate humans , what would have happened then.

[@princessthyemis]

LOL WHAT they actually did that?!?!?!oh my GOSH!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯😂😂😂😂😱😱😱😱😱

[@Hexedbug]

@A B C D well it’s kinda like how we don’t eat dolphins because of there intelligence

[@rololopez1505]

I'm sorry, but Goldie Pond was THE arc that kept me waiting for season 2. The moment they arrived to the bunker and my husbando wasn't there, my heart skipped a beat. When they were in the temple and didn't explain the 7 walls (which also Musica didn't mention either) my heart skipped a beat. When they found Norman, my heart also skipped several beats, because at that moment I knew I had been betrayed.

[@aegis5678]

When they found Norman my heart just stopped beating and I died. That was it. I don’t know if they’ll be able to revive the anime from here on when even one of the most anticipated plot points was ruined

[@MrKilljay]

@@aegis5678 Holy shit! You were so pissed you came back from the afterlife just to comment about it on KZbin? That's dedication!

[@kittie13meow]

@@aegis5678 omg I agree I am so disappointed in the anime i needed the bunker entrance... I needed Goldy Pond... I needed the Norman-Minerva reveal... I yelled so loud at every deviation from the manga

[@meh4294]

😢

[@raflyiansaharani3979]

Yugo, lucas, Arc duke lewis, goldypond, these.. THESE!! We are not getting any of these! Let that sink in 😣😣😣😣

[@fireworksandpie9482]

Well, it’s over... they really made a montage of an entire arc in the last 5 minutes and called it a day...

[@kaiju2127]

it actually lasts less then 3 minutes, also i think it's more than an entire arc that they resumed in that Powerpoint slide.

[@nicomartinez9951]

That was a big middle finger to the manga readers

[@344shadowking]

Yeh I was like wtf is this shiz! Honestly I don't see how they thought that was acceptable

[@nothinginparticular6419]

If they had just left Goldy pond in AND THEN altered the story nobody would have been angry

[@NuggetOG]

*as angry, no one wouldve been as angry

[@BellBOYd128]

I actually liked the spiritual ideas from the demon society, and like, Musica basically calling the Queen a hungry ghost and then Musica playing Buddha to absolve her be like "woah, this is clearly the dramatic ultimate conclusion to an entire side story that never happened."

[@freakthenihilist2279]

Just stick to the story, goldy pond wasnt the only arc

[@NuggetOG]

@@BellBOYd128 also MC, meets the god of the universe in 6 plain seconds... pretty important scene IMO

[@TheFourthWinchester]

The manga author was the one who disliked that arc and told the anime writers to not adapt it, I think.

[@TheKewlPerson]

Goldy Pond out of any arc would have benefitted the most from being animated with it's high amount of action.

[@Sweetguy1821]

Action scenes, especially well animated ones are expensive to produce. My guess judging from the janky CGI it has now, it would of been pretty low tier quality. I'm guessing it was not in the budget so they skipped over it.

[@itsalsorowan]

@@Sweetguy1821 well, they could've still made the scenes interesting to look at with good fight choreography. action anime has existed for years without usage of CGI or fancy special effects. it can be done without a high budget so I'm pretty sure it wasn't the main reason

[@dhmc45]

@@itsalsorowan To kinda add more salt to the wound, Clover Works is also currently producing Wonder Egg Priority, which has movie level production quality and very crisp fight animations.

[@dekuliiife8832]

imagine if they are planning on a much better arc😳 that would be awesome....but without yuugo😓

[@mesumali2807]

@@dhmc45 it's kinda like MAPPA with Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan Season 4

[@lordgiraffe]

I still can’t cope w the fact that they completely cut the Goldy Pond arc. I was really looking forward to seeing Yuugo and Lewis animated

[@RoseProseFroze]

I was looking forward to seeing Yuugo.

[@marianatrejogalicia9630]

Dad 😭😭😭😭😭

[@seraby7151]

In this alternate timeline, Yuugo died insane 😭 We really are living in the worst timeline.

[@yourethatmantis5178]

I was super hyped for Leuvis, I hope he shows up somehow.

[@pauper_art]

*Yuugo was like a father to us...*

[@set9034]

My thoughts on the direction of anime right now: The train has derailed and is on fire but I still want to see whether it explodes or just crashes safely into the snow.

[@MiLfshAke5020]

Well said 😭

[@thewitchofsloth]

LOVE this metaphor

[@SophieSquid]

this is very accurate, I approve

[@Thenamelessgod-cz9em]

Same

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

If cope is to be believed there could be another set of tracks hiding under the snow for it to land perfectly on

[@RedLogicYT]

Tokyo Ghoul & The Promised Neverland Anime Story Writers: "Wow guys. We did it. Everyone really loved season one. They must really love the creator's original work. Well since they love it so much, maybe we should change some things. Or two. Or more. You know what? How about we skip like. Over 50 chapters and leave the fanbase confused and angry. That sounds like it'll go really well."

[@ropey1663]

Bruh season 1 was perfect, covered the first 30 chapters. Then season 2 is like, I have a great idea! Why don't we finish the second season but this time, speed run the last 150 chapters?!?!?!?!

[@reiwotah2631]

on the studio's side, there were like 60 kids at the end of the goldypond arc, it wouldve been super expensive for voice actors especially in COVID

[@dragonsrule20201]

I totally understand how that would make things difficult, but if these massive changes arise from a technical point, I think most of us would be in agreement that we'd rather wait until they can adapt it properly, yknow?

[@Dsonsee]

@@dragonsrule20201 But then you have to think about the profit margins. Any art that didn't come as good as you'd expected it? Thank capitalism

[@thetruestar6348]

Yeah i call bs

[@reiwotah2631]

@@thetruestar6348 wdym? i dont gettit

[@nikob6597]

@@Dsonsee what? That makes no sense

[@edwardchuang4224]

Tokyo Ghoul fans: damn that’s crazy

[@WEABOOF]

Thank you for this 😂

[@Thenamelessgod-cz9em]

😂😂😂

[@peachcloudx1672]

lmfaoo 😂

[@dans6046]

"first time?"

[@katsenpai6957]

remember the mansion raid in tokyo ghoul:re? no neither do I

[@justinbuergi9867]

I’m still optimistic they can fix this It’ll be okay It’ll be okay ITLL BE OKAY

[@bingcringing]

Doubt.

[@Dullsonic3]

This is fine.

[@hugogamboas.5550]

I HOPE. IM BEGGING. REORDER IT BUT DONT BOOT THE GRAND VALLEY KIDS, LUCAS AND YUUGO OUT OF THE STORY. PLEASE

[@Draggo_]

i wish too... but without Yugo or goldie pond idk how its gonna be that good.

[@gamergurl3648]

IT IS NOT OKAY

[@rimurutempest4945]

I hope Geoff does a video on Horimiya, has got to be the most efficient romcom ever. No misunderstandings, people actually talk to each other, very nice, very wholesome.

[@mothersbasement]

On it

[@rimurutempest4945]

@@mothersbasement Yay!

[@samlerf]

@@mothersbasement Could you please review Fullmetal Alchemist 2003? I would love to hear your detailed thoughs on it and the Shamballa film.

[@DM0M0]

I've been waiting on a video on Horiyama. Seems right up his alley.

[@openlink9958]

@@rimurutempest4945 I just read that with the japonese voice... I'm happy now

[@Cook-by-the-book]

Argh! People who doesn’t read the manga: Where them spoilers at? Manga readers: Beats me, Not even I know what’s going to happen now.

[@Georgesingsss]

isn't that.. a good thing? kinda like superhero moives, if they were completly based on the comics, it wouldnt be as big as it is now, but thats just my opinion

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House >> TPN

[@erika002]

actually I kinda know what could happen but I won't say it because spoilers, I'll just say that the anime kind of just skipped a great arc and will skip more since they changed the contents starting from bunker episode and reduced a LOT of characters, VERY IMPORTANT IN-WORLD DETAILS and many locations. I just hope they don't try to compress the rest of ch38-ch182 into the next few episodes.....S2 would only reach 11 episodes.

[@gr9569]

@@erika002 Season 2 is listed as 11 episodes tho on MyAnimeList...

[@erika002]

@@gr9569 ....you just repeated what I said...

[@corygumminger6349]

I'm back here after watching the finale of season 2. I don't read manga at all, so I was able to enjoy it for what it was. Then they just tossed what should've been season 3 up in a two minute montage at the end. I'm pissed to say the least

[@jillianflagg]

YESS THATS WHAT IM SAYING. I didn’t read the manga either but that montage at the end had me annoyed

[@lynncameron8100]

@@jillianflagg i’m glad you didn’t read the manga then!

[@344shadowking]

You and me both! It got me so vex! Season 2 was trash compared to season 1

[@1uca_Ei]

I wasn't annoyed when I was watched the last ep... because I was hella confused... like huh??? What is she doing?? What is this place?? What is this?? I almost finished the manga, and I'm almost annoyed now

[@FieryRedmond]

can't wait to watch The Promised Neverland: Brotherhood in 10 years

[@statesminds]

The first fma wasn't terrible brotherhood was better but still. Id rather it go that route than tokyo ghoul root a

[@TopKingNZ]

It's a bit different since TPN manga is finished

[@MrGochira]

@@statesminds I've tried to seriously watch fma brotherhood. The way that show opens is a mess, it's paced weirdly, it vomits exposition like a poorly written fan fic, the dialogue is stilted and weird, if it doesn't improve pretty quickly I am going to give up on it again.

[@rikumajumder1558]

@@MrGochira FMA and FMAB are the same in the first half for the most part and then changes slowly. Both give out different tones.

[@Kaelahsb]

@@MrGochira Fmab rushed through the beginning of the manga to get to the new information I believe Since it was essentially a retelling of the beginning of fma That’s why I always recommend people watch fma before fmab because the beginning moves quickly but once all that has passed its great

[@ghostlyyin]

When The Promised Neverland gets a Tokyo Ghoul treatment...

[@AxxLAfriku]

SUPRISE! I am the funniest YTer evah!!!! Just kidding, it was no surprise. Everybody knew already. HAHAHHAHA!!!! That was an amazing joke (it was real talk though). WAWAWAWAWA!!!! Good afternoon, dear yin

[@hazint2684]

I’d call this far worse but with tg it was more of a loss given how good the manga was. Here u can take solace in knowing the manga for tpn was shit too

[@dooblebooble]

@@AxxLAfriku shush

[@dinogt8477]

Hazint tg iS worse

[@ObaREX]

Fucking shit. Does this mean I have to go back to reading the Manga!?

[@angeloortiz2769]

I was so hype and now people are talking about how they messed up the show so badly 😔

[@WhiteKnuckleRide512]

I don’t think it’s too bad for people who haven’t read the manga.

[@beyondtrash1627]

@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 I hadn't read the manga, but I found S2 dreadfully boring. I just read the manga, and the arc they had there was far more interesting.

[@AzureBeatPony]

@@beyondtrash1627 Haven't been watching it (already doing 3 anime in a season and that's about my limit), but I followed the manga up to the last arc and honestly. . . it was one of those manga that started really strong and than just kept slipping. I actually dropped it, because it just had fallen off the excellence that is the first, and even first couple arcs outside of the Field House. So if the point it to try to make a better ended series in the anime, I might take a look sometime later.

[@ernestvincent595]

@@beyondtrash1627 see? this is it, people must be blind or dumb af to not notice the pacing issues of this season even if they didn't ready the manga, theres awfully lot of issues here that needs to be talked about. tpn season 2 is bad

[@aryanchadha3443]

@@beyondtrash1627 same i found s2 boring Thought to drop it but still have some hope left

[@thepaintingbanjo8894]

"Hey Cloverworks. Can we have a S2 as tightly adapted as S1 was in the manga?" *NA NA NANANANANA NANANANAAAA*

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House > TPN, just wait for it

[@LuisFernandez-jp8wt]

get out

[@dinolover]

I love how this season has everyone fucked up to the point they're pulling crazy ass theories out their ass to justify it. Be real man, they just botched the season. It isnt some 4D chess move.

[@cybertrex5649]

Some people can't admit the anime has gone of the rails😔

[@angeluriel2725]

@@cybertrex5649 let us hope it derailed just so it cant try out that multi-track drifting ;;;;

[@aurum3747]

Straight up adapting a work seems like a no brainer, they changed it for a reason Wheater that reason is good or not, well... we'll see

[@thetruestar6348]

@@aurum3747 They SKIPPED character arcs thats never a good thing

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House > TPN!

[@crowei]

Dang, this is like adapting Hunter x Hunter and skipping through the phantom troupe and chimera ant arc.

[@BIRDWITCHE]

It's like if HXH was just the hunter exam arc and the Election arc LMAOO

[@angeluriel2725]

I feel like its more like adapting thru the Phantom Troupe Arc and at the end skipping straight to Hisoka v Chrollo fight and STILL not delivering

[@Ragazaloth]

don't worry the arc will come don't worry the arc will come don't worry the arc will come don't worry the arc will come WORRY THE ARC WON'T COME

[@gunsol900]

That physically hurt me just to read

[@gr9569]

just thinking of that makes me dead inside

[@thexenosaiyan]

Promised Neverland 2nd season has given me nothing but pain

[@akimkila]

Same

[@bor445]

Then i guess you never read the manga.

[@thexenosaiyan]

@@bor445 I did

[@sebastianc1110]

Same here as well.

[@Doonesh]

@@bor445 the manga was satisfying wym

[@kingssman2]

This is that situation when a studio says "You're getting a season 2, but you might not be getting a season 3" when you have 4 seasons worth of manga material.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Yeah. Even with a fast "3 chapters per episode" pacing, they would need around 61 episodes. But if they went with a "2.5 chapters per episode" pacing to let various dialogue scenes breathe, they would need around 73 episodes. Flippin Demon Slayer S1 had "2.12 chapters per episode" pacing.

[@minitor4620]

I think they didn’t want to rob there audiences of ending so they had to rush it

[@MustacheDLuffy]

@@ThePreciseClimber I thought 3 chapters was average, season 1 of TPN had 37 chapters in 12 or so episodes that’s like 3 chapters per episode

[@NuggetOG]

@@ThePreciseClimber and then you have one piece with 1 chapters per episode pacing

[@ThePreciseClimber]

@@NuggetOG I think it's half a chapter per episode these days. :P

[@motor4X4kombat]

before season 2 fans: this anime will be the new death note. after the first 5 episodes fans: this is the new tokyo ghoul/ deadman wonderland/ rosario + vampire/ gantz / soul eater / akageme ga kill . god friggin damit

[@marichatismynameandladynoi1990]

What’s wrong with sound eater or akame ga kill

[@motor4X4kombat]

@@marichatismynameandladynoi1990 the ending sucks

[@cnlbenmc]

At least Tokyo Ghoul season three makes season 2 seem like a masterpiece in comparison.

[@nemowindsor8724]

Soul Eater had a good ending in anime and manga, what are you talking about?

[@motor4X4kombat]

@@nemowindsor8724 maka wining by the power of friendship? Yeah sure.

[@Yczechshi]

As a manga only reader: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House > TPN Prove that wrong😤

[@1petalrose808]

Yoo I made the coloring at 16:38, didn't expect to see that while watching this. I'm flattered it looks official enough to even include, just to be clear though the coloring isn't official! I made that the original is black and white like every other inner cover. Credit in the description would be nice but I won't get pissy, thank you for using it!

[@gr9569]

That's really cool

[@shiningstar4985]

Did he ever get back to you about it? If not, he probably didn't see it and you should contact him on Twitter. He'll 100 percent respond

[@GabbiNova]

It looks really good! I really admire your talent!

[@dans6046]

This show hurts me. I had to quit cause it felt like a highlight show rather than an anime, and it was spoiling plot points better revealed in the manga. So I had to drop it, and just read the manga instead

[@sheriffaboubakar9720]

Fucking "highlight show", lmaoooo I never heard that saying before.

[@NM-ev7pu]

Highlights? I thought you could put those 5 episodes in like 3. Some stuff felt like filler, while other stuff felt waaay too rushed. It was so wierdly inconsistent. I mean that big reveal at the end of episode 5 felt flat. I was like wait what, but not in a good way. It doesn't feel like a retcon, but overall it lacked impact.

[@clydejp5047]

@@NM-ev7pu it's weirdly inconsistent because they skipped manga content.

[@rizkiaakil]

Pretty sure they don't have other choice than to pull this abominationly adaptation. See the thing is, unlike other manga-adapted anime TPN manga is already finished. So they pretty much won't get anymore anime adaptation after this one. Because, as manga ends that means the fandom is pretty much died off already, there's no one to discuss the weekly manga anymore. It would be a waste to make an anime if there's not a lot of ppl who wants to watch it. Also by now ppl would already know the ending which means less ppl who would be interested in the anime. Cuz while the first season do well it's not as well as let's say Demon slayer that the anime can stand on it's own so it doesn't worth the try. So their choice was to end the story but sacrifice the middle arcs as what they doing rn. Or pull a Nisekoi which basically faithfully adapt the arc from their last point but that's it, anime only watcher would NEVER know how TPN end ever. Because, don't forget anime still basically just a glorified promotion for manga and never really meant to be it's own thing. It's not like the demand for TPN manga was THAT big to make an anime till the story is finished. Which would take abt 5-7 years with a year gap with no content to keep the fans together either mind you.

[@justjohn312]

@@NM-ev7pu So much character development skipped leading up to that reveal. The impact could've been BIG if they just followed the manga... but they ruined it. 😔

[@jayrun4341]

As a manga reader, this is just pain. I was looking forward to the anime, hoping that they would actually fix some plot holes and adapt it so that the anime would be even better than the manga which was good, but not as good as the grace field arc. However, oh was I wrong, not only did they do the exact mistake that made the manga go downhill, (rushing the ending when tpn had such a good foundation) they even cut out the most popular arc from s2, added more plot holes, basically revealed norman in the most anti-climatic, boring way ever all just to rush to the final. My disappointment is unmeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@batmeme9349]

I kinda felt the same way for the manga ending, very unexpected haysss. Also, Shadows House > TPN

[@kitkatz5257]

Tpn was the 1st manga i have read, now that the s2 is nothing like the manga makes me not wanna read manga again since im scared it will happen again

[@batmeme9349]

@@kitkatz5257 Bruh, the manga is also not that good either. But maybe you should try to read it till the end to see for yourself.

[@kitkatz5257]

@@batmeme9349 i already finished it, the manga was great. When i said I don't wanna read manga again i meant like any other manga because of this reason lop

[@kitkatz5257]

@@batmeme9349 lol*

[@PabzRoz]

This season is trash weather you read the manga or you're anime only. I'm anime only and I'm having a hard time enjoying myself. The pacing is awful, nothing feels important, each episode feels like a one off instead of continuing story, the time skip made no sense, the characters seem to just be getting lucky compared to them using their wits and intelligence to get out of situations like last season, important plot points feel rushed, Norman returning with a poorly explained random plan to kill the demons, etc. etc. If I wasn't invested because of season 1 and the hype around the show I woulda dropped this a while ago. It's flat out bad.

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House > TPN, just wait

[@ihkeseteeietos5722]

@@batmeme9349 No one asks

[@batmeme9349]

@@ihkeseteeietos5722 You don't have to, thank you very much...

[@DeadAngel14]

Yup. As an Anime only fan who got spoiled on some of the Manga events thanks to some shitty fans, I wasn't that mad tho when I learned about them and tried my best to avoid any other spoilers so that I can still enjoy the anime. And let me tell you I got hugely disappointed because I wanted so bad to see those details that I learned about getting adapted. Can't imagine how terrible must it be to the Manga readers. And from an Anime only standpoint it sucked, the pacing was awful, a lot of things were left unclear, they used many cheap tricks that made it more boring than what it already was (a huge example was the one that was pulled the last episode....) and it just made me lose my interest in everything. I mean I couldn't give a shit about any of the other characters except for our 3 main ops. Yet I am gonna continue watching it just to see how will they end it all at this point.

[@andergarcia4953]

Exactly they cut out so many characters and plot points that the story feels disjointed and messy.

[@SmugTomato]

It's funny watching this after the absolute shitshow of an ending that we got. I don't think it's hyperbole to say that the ending to The Promised Neverland anime is one of the worst in the history of the medium. Maybe in all of fiction.

[@dolliedearestt]

honestly, it's so shit. They condensed 20 damn chapters into a slideshow presentation and then pat themselves on the back with phil and emma reuniting at the end. what type of bs is that??? the poor animators, man. spent so long on this series, working hours and hours only for this to happen. TPN s2 never happened, let's forget it.

[@SmugTomato]

@@dolliedearestt That's the part that really bothers me. I've seen rushed arcs and cut/condensed content. I have never seen damn near 2 volumes of content condensed into a 2 minute slideshow at the end just to wrap everything up. That's beyond lazy. It's baffling that they thought they could pull that shit and justify it.

[@bthsr7113]

Even condensing the main loose threads into a movie like Peacekeeper Wars or Sere[REDACTED] looks downright kind in comparison.

[@AJT-]

As soon as I read the manga I was confused because not only did they cut a whole character but they cut a whole arc.

[@NM-ev7pu]

Saw 5.5 and thought, wait, why? This isn't a long running shonen where the occasional recap episode isn't too bad.

[@z2duck506]

when did u read the manga

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

when you had a 13 EP mind fricker with no recap while season twos cuts half the mid section of manga and recaps ok then XD would be pretty cool if this version ends up well

[@AJT-]

@@z2duck506 It was just before maybe episode 3 or 4 of season 2. I wanted to go read ahead to see what would happen but then it was way different from what I saw.

[@pastellilacs4960]

It wasn’t just one character they cut around probably a hundred important characters :(

[@appointedbard1076]

I just kinda wish the second season never happened so it wouldn’t take away from the first seasons success

[@jaybee27D]

Yeah exactly. Now if I recommend the show I have to clarify that they shouldn’t watch the second season and why, but also add that the manga isn’t necessarily all that great either but it’s a lot better. The series was honestly perfectly concluded after just the first arc

[@Antoine893]

True. But I'm not a manga reader, I was eagerly waiting for the second season and now that I know it's nowhere as good as the first one, I'm going to read the manga. So I'm at least glad the second season got out to point me in the direction of the manga.

[@dragonsrule20201]

Yeah with the news of s2 coming out I was suggesting my friend watch it a lot, and now I feel like if she does I have to warn her to not watch season2, but she's not a manga reader so it would be a very abrupt end for her

[@jaybee27D]

@@dragonsrule20201 I really don’t think the end of the first season is abrupt at all. As long as you go in thinking there’s only one season at least. I already said this but it’s such a perfect conclusion to see all the kids escape and Elizabeth give in. Every character that gets set up has a solid conclusion and you can pretty much just assume that all goes well after they escape.

[@dragonsrule20201]

@@jaybee27D it's definitely a very good stand-alone season and wraps up nicely, but most people won't be content to know that it ends basically at the start of their journey, especially since I couldn't hide the fact that there's a season 2 and thus planned continuation lol. We have so much set up with Minerva, the demons, and what Norman's fate is that wouldn't be explored. The children don't even know what world or what time they're in, and they only got past step one in their escape, not to mention the fact they left a bunch of the kids behind in that finale. Seeing how they deal with the outside world is definitely an exciting prospect, and their goals are WAY loftier now. It's not a simple break out, which itself was incredibly difficult even with a lot of help, it's a full on battle against the dominant species of this foreign world to make themselves a home. I know if I weren't a manga reader I'd be full of unanswered questions. I mean, we see in episode one that they're not afraid of character death, so I definitely wouldn't assume the journey would go fine. And while I'd still consider it good nonetheless, I definitely don't agree that the contents of season 1 are the only thing worth exploring. The next arc gives us a lot of character development, especially to Emma who has been carried until then, as well as really really cool world building and amazing new characters. For being such a large part of the plot, season 1 has almost zero demons in it, so it's really interesting to then finally meet some and watch our beloved characters go toe-to-toe with them. It really ups the ante from Isabella being their biggest threat, not to mention how terrifying of a foe Andrew was and the crazy emotions that went into the bunker evacuation. Add that in with the fact that many people consider Goldy Pond their favorite arc, I'd say it's at /least/ worth going for two seasons/reading the manga still.

[@TheKewlPerson]

I was so excited to possibly see Goldy Pond animated Pain...

[@brinous_]

Until episode 3 I was always talking to my friend like: "Ok, I think goldy pond will get animated by the end of this season and I wont have to wait another year to see it. Yeah yeah, it will be there, for sure!". -Mister isnt in the room - "Hmm ok ok, they're just changing the way he shows up, anytime now..." - Bunker explodes - "They didnt just skip the whole thing, did they?" Im still in denial

[@raflyiansaharani3979]

Welcome to "the not so promising neverland"

[@mkwmaster777]

This anime is the first time I would say, "Do not watch the anime, read the manga," instead of "After you're done the anime, read the manga."

[@batmeme9349]

Always read the manga first🙃

[@saininj]

I'd say, watch season 1, then read the manga.

[@anomalocaristheabnormalshr3248]

@@saininj yes

[@ibraheemahmad7404]

*Cough* Tokyo Ghoul *Cough*

[@idunnodo1142]

Cough cough Berserk

[@OudeWellington]

Aged like... nah, you know what? From now on whenever milk spoils I'm gonna say "this aged liked The Promised Neverland"

[@Babyluigikarting]

At this point, I'm convinced Kaiu Shira is getting a kick from ending the same story badly in 2 seperate ways.

[@MrKilljay]

Maybe the Live action movie will be shit too. He could be going for the hat trick.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

The TPN manga ending was pretty kino, actually. The imaginary beach scene, the flashback to one of the hide-and-seek games from their childhood when Emma hid right under Norman & Ray's noses, the kids travelling around the world fulfilling their dreams and Emma finally riding a giraffe.

[@MrKilljay]

@@ThePreciseClimber I agree actually. Sure the manga was a little shaky on how it handled Norman and his rather sudden heel-face turn and some other stuff, but overall the ending was otherwise almost perfect. Especially the very end. Overall I think it was pretty well done, personally. But I made my comment from the perspective of fans who didn't like it. Tbh whether you like the manga ending or not, I think we can all collectively agree that this ain't the move.

[@Seus-s]

At this point manga readers are a bunch of crybabies.

[@Babyluigikarting]

@@Seus-s You're free to enjoy the endings just as I am free to not like them.

[@susukenma12]

I was so excited to see the Goldy Pond arc adapted into the anime, but I guess not...

[@seyidana7209]

I loved your dad joke, he's laughing in Heaven don't worry.

[@SorasShadow1]

Bonus points for Funimation's thumbnails spoiling the Norman thing to begin with, I knew upon clicking the episode he was alive so any possible impact whatsoever was gone immediately.

[@echonotex]

The promised Neverland is one of my favorite manga of all time so I’m PRAYING it’ll get the brotherhood treatment

[@dragonstormx]

I binged the manga after finishing the first season and my reaction to the death squad showing up so quickly was "what?" For anime only viewers, the death squad was terrifying in the manga, there is a tense sequence with the kids trying to escape just to learn the exit was cut off, something Emma learns after two of the kids were gunned down. We actually have heartwrenching scene where Emma says all the kids want to is have normal lives, and the squad leader shows us how evil he is by saying that is all the more reason to kill the kids because they are just livestock who don't deserve normal lives. The whole thing showed us that humans can be just as evil as the demons. I thought the anime's opening was showing Peter Ratri rather than Isabella. I didn't like how she died in the manga after what she went through, I actually thought she deserved to live, especially since the rest of the Grace Field staff got to live. Which leaves me with mixed thoughts about her staying a villain after she told the kids to escape and find happiness. Above all else I was hoping the season would adapt the Goldy Pond arc, and the next season would finish the series and expand on the final battle which I felt went by too quickly in the manga with the kids winning too easily. That said I will give the anime some credit with the scenes where the adult demons are trying to get human meat for kids who degenerating. It is a heartwrenching scene that serves to humanize the demons and since the series has mentioned the aristocrats not sharing their stocks while the commoners are suffering does still nicely foreshadow how evil the nobility is.

[@batmeme9349]

Try reading Shadows House next. The entire series is kinda similar with TPN but better.

[@NuggetOG]

wait... some kids got shot down... bruh the anime staff are pussies. i was wondering when they would kill of some children as i looked at each of them thinking who would die first. but no, BS plot armour

[@allanolley4874]

To me anime only the escape from the shelter was still scary and the human commandoes came off as evil completely dismissing the kids normal human desire with a callous murderous disregard, instead of responding to the statement by saving they don't deserve normal lives he says since they never had it they have no reason to expect it, which is pretty much the same thing to me. I'm sure in the manga it was more scary and more raw and the humans were more evil monsters, but its not like none of those things are true in the adaptions at all. I'm assuming that in the Anime there is a high chance that Isabella has some secret elaborate plan to undermine the hunt by Grace Fields in some way while pretending to be gung ho in leading it. Although they may just be going back on the characterization that she had given up on the farms ideology at the end of the first story arc and she may just be a straight villain, who can say.

[@huntsman9316]

I disagree. Isabella dying was a great choice that I’m glad they added. She let her kids die so she could live. Now she died to let her kids live. It’s poetic and a good end for her

[@dragonstormx]

@@huntsman9316 Well if the manga was going to kill her there should have been more set up. The villain is defeated and she dies from a random goon. This would be like if Return of the Jedi had Darth Vader die because he saved Luke from getting shot by a random Stormtrooper instead of dying saving him from the Emperor.

[@Lazer-bp9lf]

Idk if they were playing a sick joke when they showed the monitor room without Yuugo along with his biscuits and tea STILL sitting there on the table.

[@kmehianicholson7253]

Before watching: Welcome back dude, we missed you!

[@danieltowell8014]

Hey. Hey Geoff. We're gonna need to talk about this show again now..

[@mothersbasement]

Working on it

[@duskgopc3345]

@@mothersbasementthey gon and fucked up.. what the fuck was that ending, the fucking montage my dude disgusted.

[@nicomartinez9951]

@@duskgopc3345showing things that should of been there

[@julianquintero2653]

“Everything will be fine....” Deception: 100

[@martimpardal]

"Brute and unsatisfying way to shake things up". Anime only here.... IT SURE WAS. And the Normal reveal was the most disappointing moment I have had in forever as an anime fan.

[@stalincat2457]

It was the last episode I watched. Not angry or anything, just lost all intrest. If it's a series like that then nothing is at stake and Emma's ear will probably grow back too in an episode or two.

[@NuggetOG]

@@stalincat2457 hmmm funny how we both left the anime at the same episode

[@brandonbroadhurst2229]

@@stalincat2457 I don't think we were supposed to believe for one second that Norman was actually dead, so if you think they magically "brought him back" and its "that" kind of anime then you seem to have missed the point from the start.

[@coffeecaku3281]

I’m only pissed that they forgot husbando Yuugo 😩😩

[@thewitchofsloth]

RIGHT??? 😭

[@coffeecaku3281]

@@thewitchofsloth He's like one of the most popular characters so it's kinda dumb that the anime didn't adapt him 😔

[@deathshot7623]

damn it he's best boi in those 2 arcs

[@coffeecaku3281]

@@deathshot7623 he is!!!!

[@randompersonontheinternet6567]

I was waiting for Yuugo vs Lewis just to find out they remove it

[@_aideyn]

When he starts talking about 'the anime, the live-action, and the manga' -- heads up for a jumpscare from the live-action portion

[@grim86]

They did an any% speedrun with a powerpoint montage

[@pewpewdragon4483]

they didn't even get the world record time, smh

[@Hozagen]

So optimistic, I'd love that what you said really happened... Unfortunately, the studio went the worst way possible

[@Richark26]

Just saw the final episode... holy hell, this is easily one of the worst adaptations of all time. Spoilers for the episode below but take my word for it and just don't watch it. You're going to end this with a slideshow? A slideshow? Are you freaking kidding me!? I was laughing and yelling at the same time about how god awful all of this was. It's like they dangled a potential season three in our faces and then took the opportunity to punch us. Seriously, I haven't felt this insulted in a long time.

[@thatpedanticcommenter5847]

As someone who hadn't read the manga, I went into this season with a lot of hope. And then after a couple of episodes the plot began to go all over the place and I was profoundly confused. I came to watch this video and realized "Oh, damn it. There's a whole lot of content that they just decided to chuck out the window. What a waste." I've seen worse things out there and am fairly easily entertained, but close to the end of the season I was pessimistic that they were even planning on continuing it. So, I wasn't actually surprised to learn they ended it there, just disappointed. However, knowing there were people out there that had far more reason to expect much better, I can completely sympathize with your frustration. This was a horrible way of ending a series, plain and simple. It was utterly hollow and nonsensical.

[@ericshwedo4033]

Wait season 2 is the end of the show? I quit after Normans return. I guess if that’s the case, we can now hopefully move on to a better adaptation

[@donovanboykins1995]

Remember that Spongebob “Lost Episode” where they started the episode with a walk cycle? At least it was entertaining and it was to make a joke before the Real episode plays. I also remembered that moment in the first world of Kirby Star Allies where they immediately played the credits in Fast Forward before immediately rewinding back, just to remind us that the story has just begun. But after seeing how The Promised Neverland Anime ended up... The sooner they announced their own “Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood” the better.

[@Maysey9241]

Tokyo Ghoul Fans: “First time?”

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

Honestly for as bad as this is and believe me it is I kinda think what happened with Tokyo Ghoul is worse, as far as what’s happening with PN it’s more like what happened with Soul Eater’s adaptation: it’s a vast departure from the manga but it still has some entertaining bits

[@alexiacob9738]

Pain.

[@NuggetOG]

@@DarkKnightofAnime no, with soul eater the manga was still ongoing, tpn was already finished. or like fma, manga was still ongoing so they had to change it but then came brotherhood tbh tpn was doomed the moment it diverged from the manga

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

@@NuggetOGI know that dumbass what I’m saying is there are two standards of enjoyment I judge these anime only plot lines from: The Tokyo Ghoul standard where it goes the complete opposite direction of the manga and comes out with no redeeming value what so ever and the Soul Eater standard where it goes down a divergent path but still has some entertaining moments, PN S2 falls a little more in the latter category for me

[@NuggetOG]

@@DarkKnightofAnime for me i just lost interest

[@Offline219]

20:36 This turned out to be the most accurate prediction unfortunately...

[@dirtybirdperson4020]

Welcome back Geoff, I'm very excited to watch this! Your awsome

[@magicfrae]

The promised Neverland season 2 is like manga readers spoiling the ending to a series when you're on season 1 ............highly recommend the manga lmao

[@batmeme9349]

I also highly recommend this manga called Shadows House after finishing TPN

[@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101]

I’m so happy to see someone not being fully negative

[@cybertrex5649]

You mean being badly optimistic😂

[@charmaineframe7382]

Wdym? The season 2 of the promised neverland is complete and total shit. They litteraly removed the best parts of the series and just rushed the anime.

[@mr.cup6yearsago211]

@@charmaineframe7382 you missed the point of the comment. Try again.

[@Hadas4237]

about the "norman spoiler" actually it was so obvious that he is alive so now that its finelly confirmed i can quietly read the manga if i want to. of course it will ruin the moment in the manga but if i guessed that he is alive already the waiting for that to be confirmed is a torture/

[@katherinehavegreen515]

When I started reading the manga, it hadn't even launched to the point of their escape from Grace Field and me and my friend were *dying* to know if he was really gone! I think one of the things the manga did most right was this timing. I don't think there was a single person not hoping for his comeback, and when they showed his surprised face everyone probably was twice more hopeful, but they took so long to reveal it that many people probably had already forgot or given up by then. It's what made it such a good twist! But I definitely can understand the angst of not knowing X'D I was super panicked for a long while e.e

[@katherinehavegreen515]

When I started reading the manga, it hadn't even launched to the point of their escape from Grace Field and me and my friend were *dying* to know if he was really gone! I think one of the things the manga did most right was this timing. I don't think there was a single person not hoping for his comeback, and when they showed his surprised face everyone probably was twice more hopeful, but they took so long to reveal it that many people probably had already forgotten or given up by then. That patience to make the reveal is what made it such a good twist! But I definitely can understand the angst of not knowing X'D I was super panicked for a long while e.e

[@HexCypherr]

this. like did anyone honestly believe that norman was dead? i thought that was kinda just a generally accepted fake death like it was hella obvious. just following the golden rule of anime even its obvious offscreen death = not dead

[@batriam5921]

No one obviously believed that Norman was dead. So the question was what happened to him. The manga did a way better job of building up to that and his reveal. The anime was like "woops, you took a wrong turn down this alley, oh wow what's Norman doing here?"

[@Sparkjolteon]

yeah, it's not about knowing he's not dead. it's that the whole "norman gets shipped out" plot has lost SO much narrative impact when you just casually meet back up with him an arc later. the manga let you stew on his disappearance, you kept wondering just what the heck he was up to and when you actually do meet him, everything is completely different and there's some justified tension from the ways the two crews have grown apart over time. I can accept most of the changes so far to an extent, but Norman's return is honestly just a garbage scene that totally impedes them from adapting some of my favorite parts of the manga

[@paulllu9069]

Been waiting for this from you since episode 5 lmao😂😂

[@whiteobama9366]

Things we aren't going to get : yuugo , Lucas , Oliver (my favorite out of everyone) , Ayshe (the girl adopted by a demon, and in my opinion the caracter with the most interesting story) , duke leuvis (the most badass caracter) , the royal family , the demons that founded goldy pond, all the goldy pond survivors including fan favorites such as pepe , nigel and Paula not to mention the entirety of Norman's team , exept for those 4 and most importantly Adam who was a huge plot point and the cure to the experiments , now they are just gonna use a lazy deus ex machina for everything.

[@thelightison4205]

Well, this ended up being overly optimistic... not that I blame you. I was in denial as well, up until the point Norman reappeared with exactly none of the emotional impact that it had in the manga. The biggest issue though is I don't think the manga ended up being impactful enough for this to ever get the Brotherhood treatment. This season has doomed this show to be forever remembered as tokyo ghoul re:2 electric boogaloo, except somehow even worse.

[@bassy_michaelis_666]

I didn't read the manga and even I understand how disappointing Norman's reunion was😂 I was like really? No hugs no tears? Nothing? Just him showing up and then discussing plans out of nowhere? Bruh

[@BigBirdJay]

Seems like we just have to accept their going down the promised never land root A route. Time for me to pick up the manga I guess...

[@ghostlyyin]

Same brother If I can binge read Demon Slayer in a week I can definitely finish the manga in under 7 days

[@BigBirdJay]

@@ghostlyyin The TPN manga is pretty short too

[@BigT.Larrity]

Honestly I'd recommend the manga even if season 2 was amazing, the anime had to cut a few things out in season 1 and you miss a LOT of internal dialogue that goes miles to develop the characters and enhance the mood Fair warning the ending is kinda shit tho, but still worth the journey

[@Bigbean2999]

@@BigT.Larrity bro the ending is underated no cap 🧢

[@BigT.Larrity]

@@Bigbean2999 Do you mean the very end or the last arc? Somewhat for the former, hell nah for the latter

[@khomu604]

I was so hyped for this season And i still am!!!!

[@Kakuri708]

it’s good to see someone is still optimistic, because I was heavily disappointed of what they did to the Promised Never Land 😔

[@xxxfairycorpsexxx7592]

@@Kakuri708 i was super disappointed with the manga so I'm exited for this anime original stuff xD

[@Kakuri708]

@@xxxfairycorpsexxx7592 yeah I get what you’re saying too with the manga as well. Hopefully the anime will have a better ending than the manga or just be better than the manga in general.

[@jckun100]

I'm honestly glad none of the people I recommended this show actually started watching it because I'm genuinely embarrassed to watch the 2nd season.

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House >> TPN💯

[@NuggetOG]

@@batmeme9349 bruh stop spamming ffs, no one cares

[@batmeme9349]

@@NuggetOG You cared enough to state your opinion🙃

[@NuggetOG]

@@batmeme9349 huh i guess negative attention is still attention. what have i done !?!?!?!??!?!?!

[@batmeme9349]

@@NuggetOG there's no turning back😈 Now try reading Shadows House🙃

[@sundr0wn846]

the moment you realize this video was made before the season ended

[@funnymeme7127]

The thing i was most hyped about from this season was seeing the gold pond fight animated. What were they thinking

[@CaptainDaydreams]

Hey there from the future that is now. Can't wait for the video about what actually happened.

[@scarysnek]

7:40 can't believe you spoiled the last 5 minutes of the show

[@SkylarFairyTailGirl]

This is some Kingdom Hearts level Tetsuya Nomura heavy theory stuff you're getting into

[@sheriffaboubakar9720]

KH isn't even that deep, it's just stupid and nonsensical.

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

A lot of Japanese works do this weird meta stuff. Kingdom hearts is famous for how convoluted it is but there are plenty of others. All of Fate is this, Nier is this I think, and Madoka Magica is also this.

[@sheriffaboubakar9720]

@@Unknown-qj9sm Nier is a little convoluted, idk how Fate and Madoka Magica are tho lol

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

@@sheriffaboubakar9720 ​ I just meant in the sense of a new game plus additional timelines. Fate/stay night-> UBW -> heaven's feel for example are all the same timeline just with different variations thrown in like your playing a new game plus in a video game. Madoka has something very similar in that the popular anime is a darker timeline version of an actual magical girl story which is made even more complicated by the new multiverse created after the anime as seen in the movie.

[@venor2612]

Lol

[@aliedawnwood]

Your optimism for this season has honestly give me so much hope and hype. There’s still a chance for greatness and the idea of parallel times lines is extremely interesting

[@nicholasreeves2916]

Just watched the finale. Looks like I'm about to read my first manga.

[@micaelamurphy3140]

This video's title AND thumbnail went from "hope or cope?" to just "c o p e" after the season finale... well shit

[@del-chicken2641]

*episode 5* Me: "Oh cool, Norman's alive."

[@TheGreatDeliveryBoy]

Watching this video when it came out actually gave me a bit of hope. Coming back here after Episode 6...no amount of Frienship Power can restore that hope. They're speedrunning any% the whole story post-Escape.

[@batmeme9349]

Shadows House > TPN

[@WeboKonAroz]

I appreciate your optimism in the face of insurmountable odds. Hopefully you can make a follow-up video saying "I told ya so".

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

Started reading the manga because of this video, after watching up to S2E5. I hadn't really noticed any pacing issues, and it didn't really feel like I was missing anything, so I was curious to see what they'd cut out. And, like. Damn. _Damn._

[@nazispy4537]

pov: You're an anime-only and can still tell they skipped 20 arcs. :(

[@Asra_..]

Of course you can, they treated it so badly that anyone would understand that

[@thai-cheese]

Nothing has been actively bad, but it's hard to not see the recap episode after only five weeks as confirmation that this is a dumpster fire.

[@Lmab-qs1kr]

The what now? That’s it I’m reading the manga

[@johngard15]

As someone who only watched the anime, the ending actually didn't surprise me: the dropped loose ends and rushed pacing screamed "we don't have the time or means to do this properly, so we're going to just cram it all in order to get an ending to the story." I enjoyed the ride, it was fine

[@landennguyen444]

i agree and relate to every part of this comment except for the last sentence lol

[@outlaw2448]

Well now that the season ended, makes me want to see what Geoff has to say now about it.

[@danieldragotti2608]

I'm from the future there is no hope

[@edgelord8337]

I've read the entire manga in a day. Disappointment was always in the back of my mind in season 2 being adapted but now I'm just confused.

[@ghostlyyin]

Bro that’s some dedication. Isn’t there like 100 chapters?

[@neinron6421]

Bro did you eat?

[@thebigbadbone7238]

Bro did you sleep?

[@BidetToYou]

@@ghostlyyin 185.

[@kittie13meow]

I'm lacking in skills it took me 4 days... teach me the way

[@whatssofunny9506]

Finally, somebody else that has hope for an alternately composed Promised Neverland series

[@TheGooseman316]

Can't wait for the follow-up vid!

[@harryshum4139]

Hadn’t The Promised Neverland rushed to the end, we would have 5 Seasons in total. Really, the JoJo anime took its sweet time adapting six parts, so why not Promised Neverland? Shouldn’t the staff learn that patience is a virtue? And if they don’t think they can continue adapting the Promised Neverland, then why not stop at Search for Minerva?

[@RedLogicYT]

It's just really sad man.. I just want to see full manga to anime adaptations of The Promised Neverland and Tokyo Ghoul.. the world is really really cruel sometimes.

[@Maysey9241]

Into the Promised Neververse

[@viridiansexperimentchannel711]

Actually, this might be a brilliant marketing scheme- saving exclusive content for both mediums; thanks for bringing this to my attention

[@MrKilljay]

Does it really with though if at least one of them is shit?

[@brandonlyon730]

But I imagine they make a lot more money off of views on tv and streaming then manga sales. Seems like a bad marketing push.

[@Getwright-]

So wait, your telling me that if i watch the anime Aerith gainsborough will live?!!?? Sorry Yugo, i have to chance it

[@stray_editori]

Your love for some of the details and general hesitant optimism is so nice and refreshing. I personally knew of the Norman reveal like.... for almost the entirety of my fandom life (so about, 1.5 years) because someone spoiled it for me on a community server - but even if they hadn't, I probably couldn't have dodged it as active as I am in the fandom. So I'm not upset about that and I feel like there's still a lot of really good elements in this season even if the pacing of the last two episodes was.... wack. I didn't really mind the timeskip itself though as many anime-onlies seem to. the only thing worrying me now is that it's likely this will be the last season according to assumptions and I... I don't think they can do anything satisfying enough to warrant this chaos in 6 more episodes. My hope is that it'll at least make sense as a standalone, but even then - how can you compare 150 chapters to a mere 11 episodes, there just isn't enough time to explore things and it makes me sad because I am too actually really interested in the deviations (maybe exactly because I'm spoiled about so many major events in the manga). So I hope that it won't be the last season but even if they don't wrap it up here, it's not unlikely there simply won't be a new season due to loss of fan investment. I'm guessing that a mix of manga being over, huge new cast in GP and Norman being popular in Japan and needing him back for TPN merch, may have all been factors involved in what happened with it. Not that I'm happy about it, either way. Your take about alienating the two most passionate fanbases is really interesting, generally your take is really grounded and so pleasant to listen to; so thank you for that as always. I just get so sad when people say CloverWorks has NO love or effort for TPN, because if there was no love or effort, it would be even worse. The poor staff (especially considering the likely production issues with the recap episode being a thing :|) I do plan on reading the manga after the anime ends! Or even after this season ends potentially, if it isn't the last one by some miracle. I'm just sad that the upset nature of the fandom has spoiled os much about Goldy Pond for me, which was actually the arc I knew the least about so. Everyone seems to be upset one way or another, but I'm excited anyway to see where it goes and enjoy it for what it is now. Hope of a re-adapation isn't high but if we get any news soon (even more unlikely), I'll probably stick with being anime-only (on the risk of knowing everything by the time it happens pff-).

[@jjtiffany4879]

That was some of the best emotional clips added to a video. Simpsons with Homer saying it's still good and sonic having to go faster faster.. top shelf on capturing the emotion ppl are feeling while watching you video

[@teclinsoro4523]

as an anime only, i’m really enjoying this season so far! i’ve never read the manga, so i don’t know why everyone is so upset, but i’ve heard that the arc everyone is talking about could possibly fit in after whatever they’re doing right now, so there’s still hope! if it turns out disappointing, then i’ll just read the manga afterwards, but nothing can turn out more disappointing than the seven deadly sins season 3.

[@00iGame00]

this. im not a manga reader so i cant hate this season just yet

[@thetruestar6348]

Dude they skipped MULTIPLE arcs there is no fitting things in at least SDS follows its damn story

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4676]

@@thetruestar6348 yeah, I mean, SDS has bad animation, but it still followed the story at least. And I still honestly love season 3, the bad animation doesnt bother me. But fuck this new PN season.

[@Kelarys]

I dropped it after episode 4 when I realized Goldy Pond wasn't coming, but im always waiting for someone to tell me it's worth coming back. So far it isn't, but it still could be. Guess we'll see. I am livid though

[@MrKilljay]

It's over bro. It's not gonna get better. Read the manga if you're interest in the story. Shonen Jump app is $2 a month btw.

[@Kelarys]

@@MrKilljay you think I haven't read the manga after reading my comment? Lol

[@batmeme9349]

@@Kelarys Have you already finished the managa yet?

[@Kelarys]

@@batmeme9349 I was caught up at one point but then I was letting the last few chapters pile up and I heard the ending sucks so I haven't gotten around to finishing it yet lol. I don't know how many chapters there were left. Maybe 2, maybe 20 haha

[@batmeme9349]

@@Kelarys It seems like you're already past goldy pond, have you ever noticed that the quality of the story degrades after the goldy pond arc? or was it still good for you?

[@nineteenct]

Rest In Peace to your dad man. As an anime only I really felt so many points here

[@TwilightWolf2508]

I watched a few episodes back when season two was airing. I found out they had skipped an arc but didn't mind until I started immediately noticing that there were things that seemed to have no reason to be. There were things that didn't make much sense and some of the characters seemed to go a bit out of character. I stopped watching when Norman was revealed. I had expected it the entire time, but the reveal felt kinda off and hollow, like it wasn't meant to happen that way. I just finished reading the manga today and I am so glad I stopped the anime.

[@frankwest5388]

Thing is, the narrative can’t work without the Golden pond arc, without feeling like a copout. The narratively most important contribution of that arc, is realizing that the Demons can be beaten by humans and how difficult it is to do. Up until then, the only times demons were killed was by other demons. Showing us that humans are nothing more than victims in this and can’t compete. While in GoldenPond they establish that humans can win against them. Also it establishes the demon hierarchy, by showing us that high tier demons are that much more deadly and difficult to kill. In other words, the finale can’t be satisfying without it.