COPY EDITING AND PROOFREADING 🖊️ What's the difference, and which do you need? | Natalia Leigh

[@kiterafrey]

I use to freelance with authors, but now I work only with publishers. When I was freelancing, I would do sample edits. If someone handed me something that wasn’t ready for the phase of editing we were doing, like wanting a proof without having any copy editing and filled with countless mistakes, I would decline to work with that client. It cost neither of us anything. But, if someone isn’t ready to be in the phase of editing submitted, including never having been self-edited, it is going to cost a ton more, because the amount of time. I’m not going to do so much additional work that my normal fees would give me less than min wage, nor do I want to break an author’s budget. So, it was always best to decline. So, this video is very important, because an author could be charged more or declined service if they pick the wrong type of editing.

[@alisonf.haring3411]

I love those videos about the different types of editing, it’s obvious that you love what you are doing, I’m so happy for you 😊

[@johnparnham5945]

It just happens that I will be sending my manuscript to my editor in September (2021) in three weeks time, who will be copy editing. I look forward to seeing the results of her work and how much improvement she can make my book. ..The video is very informative.

[@nisrinaputrih4276]

Thank you so much for creating this video and explaining in detail the differences between copy editing and proofreading. Your explanations were clear and thorough, making it easy for viewers to understand the nuances between these two crucial processes. The practical advice for self-published authors was particularly helpful, and your expertise in the field shines through. I believe there are expressions similar to "some people think that a copy editor is comparable to an advanced spell checker." Given that every copy editor is prone to errors in editing text, including instances of being less thorough in editing manuscripts, it's possible that some words might be overlooked during the text editing process. Overall, it's a valuable resource, and I appreciate the effort you put into sharing your knowledge.

[@sarabresciani3888]

Hi Natalia, I love your channel! I am a copyeditor, and it drives me nuts when people think all I do is a spellcheck - thank you for clarifying that's not the case! Great video as always, I look forward to the next :)

[@Lady_dmc]

I came here as part of my research on becoming a proofreader and now I feel I should be a copy editor instead, lol. Feeling "torn" in a positive way!

[@georginadrake4050]

What did you end up doing in the end? 😊

[@leaharvey5201]

Same

[@queenmotherbug]

Thank you for the helpful information! I'm just starting out in the editing field, and I realize that I've been doing copy editing work but referring to it as proofreading. Knowing this, I'll be able to market myself better in the future.

[@animan756]

I will suggest you use a lav mic, as the sound hitting the mic is also bouncing off the walls. Having mic close to your mouth will cut most of that out.

[@GailBecker-MSED-CM-Author]

I love how you contrast editing and proofreading. There are some KZbinrs telling their viewers they are the same. Moreover, I am also happy that you emphasized that no one is perfect. I am an educator, and I have found errors in textbooks as well as software grammar checkers such as Grammarly, Ginger, Wordtune, etc... I found so many I felt compelled to contact them regarding their errors. However, we educators had a phone number and an email to report textbook errors. They used to reward us for reporting errors. I am not sure whether they still do; I no longer teach public school.

[@ricekrispies1917]

I've been considering doing editing/proofreading as a freelance job to learn and gain more experience about writing. Your video was incredibly informative. I had no idea that there were so many kinds of editing. Thank you for sharing :)

[@ricekrispies1917]

@Nina Hey thanks for your input. No need to worry, I quickly realized that I actually wouldn't feel comfortable undertaking that kind of responsibility, especially since I still need to learn more about the craft. Right now I'm researching the different components & writing techniques in creative writing & practicing them in my free time to get better

[@chelseawritesbooks8763]

I love this set up!! It feels so much more like your vibes. It just fits.

[@mischarowe]

This is my goal and I'm so happy and glad you're explaining everything I need to know. :)

[@NatalieLocke]

I am so glad to have the difference explained. I hope to see how line edits tie in as well. The only one I know as different is developmental editing.

[@MissHolliday3110]

Can you also explain there difference between manuscript critique and developmental editing?

[@aryasorensen4028]

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[@ashleywhite7707]

I am so glad that I found your KZbin channel. I just published my book today as a proof reader copy off of amazon. I still have a little bit of ways to go before my book is complete. I'm going to check out your editing services. Thank you for the information. 😊

[@kinsmed]

You are editing my girlfriend's book. Hopefully I've made your job a little easier after my beta read.

[@megancastleman5331]

I'm so excited with how much Enchanted Ink has grown! Hopefully I can write my book and then go to yall for editing but I gotta finish first lol!

[@NataliaLeigh]

It’s been a whirlwind! I’d love to work with you once you finish your book! 🤓🥰

[@Kevinakletva]

@@NataliaLeigh they are saying around is that you are that "Adam Medvidović" that wrote that "Night in Zagreb".It is known that "Adam Medvidović" is a pen name, but actuall writer is unknown. Wanted to ask you is it true? You are a genius for writing that

[@skyewinterbooks]

Thanks so much for explaining this Natalia. This helped so much. Can you please also do a video on a manuscript Critique vs Developmental Editing?

[@MissHolliday3110]

Was wondering the same thing.

[@Aritul]

That's a good question!

[@lucyleslie2081]

good point

[@animan756]

Thanks very much for spelling out the difference between those two. I am working on my first project in this work and appreciate ALL the help I can get.

[@dolljoylissa]

Your videos help so much! I published my first book Freedom, and already found errors aghhh ugh I’m so annoyed. Lol should have proof read a million times.

[@hasanhafizur570]

I have enjoyed your discussion on copyediting and proofreading to a great extent. Thanks a lot.

[@Ajay_the_invincible_1997]

Thanks Natalia for posting this. 💯🙏 This is really helpful in understanding what is the difference between copy editor and proofreader.

[@srinivasamoorthy1]

I was almost on the verge of putting a gig about copy-editing under misunderstood label of proof-reading! Thank you so much Natalia!

[@davismiles2765]

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[@mariamalamin99]

Love the mug as well!

[@ppriyansh2327]

thank you for your help

[@sarahmatthews5878]

Great video! Thanks so much.

[@antoniodossantos5960]

Very nice video. Greetings from Colombia. The Venezuelan Immigrant writer.

[@Future.Canadians]

12:21 You seem *satisfied* with your team. It is a very fortunate place to be in. Thank you for your content. I am learning a lot; already published seven books on KDP (8th on the way).

[@bhanusriyanamadala9554]

Thank you for the informative video... i am preparing for a Editorial interview and this helped gather required info

[@houdy5675]

Omg thank you im dipping my toes into this😂

[@TerryKitto]

Just the clarification I needed! Would you say a mixture of critique partners and beta readers is a good alternative for a developmental editor? Very excited to be working with you on The Frequency :)

[@NataliaLeigh]

Hey Terry! Yes I would. I also use beta readers instead of a developmental editor, and I find it’s a great way to save a bit of money while still getting help developing your story 😄 Can’t wait to work with you!

[@georginadrake4050]

Thank you for this 😊

[@soulfulslowlife]

This video is so insightful. Thanks for sharing this Natalia

[@ansumannanda6990]

Very helpful video. Thanks. God bless!

[@Mberann]

You are the best! Thank you for helping me undertand. :-)

[@leaharvey5201]

Damn! I am a native French speaker from Quebec (Canada) and I have a bachelor degree in « langue française et révision professionnelle » In my English resume, I didn’t know if I should say I am a copy editor or a proofreader. I actually thought I was a proofreader, but based on your explanation of both jobs, I realize that the copy editor is the title that fits me the most. However, I think companies sometimes mix up the two and write the wrong one in their job offer, which contributes to my confusion

[@AlexVeeGee]

Thanks, Nataila. Please consider doing videos on line edits and dev edits. Thanks.

[@sherrylatrice8733]

Thank you. This video was very helpful and informative. I'm an aspiring author but I'm also interested in copy editing and proofreading. Do you have any advice on how to get started in this field?

[@adejumokeomobayo1201]

Hi Natalia. Thank you for an amazing video. But, are you saying a proofreader is not expected to correct grammar errors, punctuation errors,. spelling errors etc.? Are those part of the work of a copyeditor?

[@zaffarkhan7982]

Just chanced upon your wonderful video, and was impressed! You explained so meticulously in your own casual, inimitable way. Bravo and thanks. Now I am itching to write a book... :)

[@NataliaLeigh]

Hi Zaffar, glad you enjoyed it! Now go pick up that pen! 😉

[@zaffarkhan7982]

@@NataliaLeigh Thanks for the inspiration! Don't be surprised if I get back to you for some editing. Please do try to remember an amateur like me and give me a little discount.... Ha, ha, ha

[@julletcoley756]

Very helpful, thanks for uploading.

[@vickymoore7852]

Thank You.

[@mikaoh4617]

Do you do editing for people outside of America?

[@NataliaLeigh]

Yes I do! :)

[@alancohen1935]

This is the first time I've tuned in to your channel and I found the information very helpful and useful. I reluctantly admit I didn't really know the difference between proofreading and copy editing but now I do, thanks to your clear explanation. And besides that... I love the cat mug, and your kitty looks adorable.:)

[@ScullyPop]

This is a very good explanation of the difference between proofreading and copy edit.

[@Isabel-yg5qz]

Hello! I'm just starting out learning how to become a freelance proofreader and copyeditor, and am taking a beginners course on copyediting. I'm just wondering how to know when you are at a good point to start doing work? Is there a test you can take to know how skilled you are at proofreading?

[@philip-at-tube]

Thanks for this informative video. 🙂

[@megankirrmann6624]

Thank you for the clarification......

[@BohoBookworm]

I really enjoy proofreading through a website called Fiverr, it's a great way to freelance :)

[@Future.Canadians]

It indeed is enjoyable. I am loving my time on Fiverr.

[@haileybeewrites]

Loved this video! Thanks for posting and clarifying, I found it to be really helpful. I've been interested in getting into freelance editing of some kind, and this inspired me to look into copy editing certification programs. Have to start somewhere! :D

[@swiftkarma4436]

Awesome video. Thank you for your thorough explanation of the terms.

[@carolyn_s]

Thanks for sharing this wealth of knowledge! I am starting a new career path as a proofreader. I am currently building my website and LinkedIn profile. Would you find it beneficial to include editors and publishers as a niche target market? Do authors ask their editors for recommendations on proofreaders? Thanks!

[@luismoro5720]

I am currently working on my manuscript and would love to have your help in the editing process. I have watched your videos and I am really impressed.

[@raulroyfloresmytongueonyou6223]

Thank you - your info 🎸

[@spicybirdmom]

thank you so much for this!

[@greatselection]

Great explanation, very helpful! Thank you very much!

[@Poseidonink]

Hello, I have been enjoying your videos and like your style of teaching. I am a seasoned screenwriter now converting my scripts into novels. What an adventure as the process has been a completely different experience! I have assisted with ghostwriting and have converted a novel into a movie script for a client finding the process enjoyable. I will be hitting you up for your services as the movie books are completed. I assume at some point a manager will be queried like with my film scripts? Maybe you have covered this topic on what to do once you have several novels? You are awesome, keep up the great work!

[@aliciavalentyn5889]

Love the Coffeecat Editing tips

[@anonymityisfreedom8457]

Thank you for this video !!

[@geangarcia2673]

Thanks. That was helpful

[@janemcmurray1520]

I appreciate your presentations! I am writing a book consisting of hundreds of SMILES. Some quotes or stories are a sentence or so, and some are several paragraphs. The book will be 5.5 x 8.5 approx, 200 plus pages. I have prepared this in a word document. I am pretty clear with how I need to edit and format, but am wondering if you have help regarding how to insert the art that the artist is preparing. I will need to reformat some of the stories to accommodate her art. To submit this for publishing, do I insert the art or is that done by the publisher? I am confused on what I need to do.

[@samanthasimpson421]

Im doing a diploma in copy editing and proofreading (just a few months away from certification). I'm UK based and have been unofficially doing this as a hobby for a while with Indie Authors I've discovered on TikTok. What advice would you give for me to transition officially into the freelance world after I get my certification?

[@antoniodossantos5960]

Hello Natalia...Thanks.🇻🇪

[@tosanroro-oghoshe2102]

I have been binge watching your videos, quite educative. Am in Nigeria, am telling a story based on female genital mutilation. since it a traditional story I incorporated local dielect. My question is, how does incorporating ones dialect affect ones writing, and how can you help me in teams of editing and possibly publishing if you find it worthy?

[@Lilylilie]

Hey Natalia! I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this and if you still check the comments under this video but I will try reaching you this way. I am in the editing stage of my first book and I am starting to plan how I will publish it and that includes professional editing (btw this video was exactly what I needed to figure out where I want to spend money when it comes to professional editing, so thank you!) I have been following you for some time now and read some of your work so I am pretty confident that I would trust you (and the people you chose to work with) with copy-editing my book. I don't know exactly when I will be ready for that but it will hopefully be in 3 months. So my question: when should I reach out to enchanted ink publishing? I know you guys are pretty full at the moment so I wanted to ask if I should reach out earlier than the three months that are suggested? Should I wait until I know when I will be ready for copy editing? Or is your plan so full that telling you now would be best because I have to wait for more than 5 months anyway? I don't mind waiting but I don't want to waste time that was not necessary to waste. Like mentioned it is my first book and I want to do things right, but also I am very excited about publishing it. Sorry if this question is unnecessarily long, I tend to overthink things.

[@antoniodossantos5960]

I became a writer at age 61. It is my way to protest elegantly.🌎

[@AjaySingh-gj6vt]

Nice information shared…I am working with Journals and publications….I had lil bit confusion but now it is clear. Can I have a chance to get into your team??? I am looking for a job in publishing…and I have a work experience of 10 years

[@Lin7able]

Excellent video. Just one thing... you say the name of your website way too fast and I can't catch it.

[@rachelwakelin3811]

I'm a freelance proofreader, and a lot of clients confuse copy editing and proofreading.

[@pivotupdigitalinc.505]

I'm looking for copy editor very soon. 1 - 2 weeks. Are you on Fiverr?

[@NataliaLeigh]

I’m not, but you can find me at www.enchantedinkpublishing.com 😁

[@KRLau]

Hi! Thank you so much for your video. I’m thinking of translating my novel, but the prob is i’m not a native. Does copy editing involve checking the smoothness of the language flow if it is a translated novel? Do you do that as well?

[@BoundByWords]

Natalia, you’ve been such an inspiration to me! I love your content. Do you ever do collabs with smaller channels? It would amazing to have the opportunity to do a video with you- even if we both just made related videos on our own channels! I’ve been pursuing an editing certificate and trying to get some traffic to my budding editing business.

[@shawandawilliams2105]

Are there classes you can take to be a copy editor and proofread

[@animan756]

That link to your site written out, please?

[@buzzlightyear923]

Jeez, i jumped when you took that first sip of coffee. I thought you had spilled hot coffee all over yourself.

[@bitKitty]

I also have a cute cat mug, like yours!

[@Spanish702]

Useful ...thanks

[@josiahjameslicayan475]

I am new to this, but if I am a proofreader, can I just use Grammarly? I am just curious.

[@nojam6212]

Hi! I heard an English degree or other related degrees aren't needed to be a proofreader, is it the same with being a Copy Editor?

[@luciovargas86]

I love your videos

[@hobbiecomics]

Cool Video...Now I know...😃

[@emmanuelprosper9836]

do you proofread for people or for yourself

[@taylornicole4316]

Do you have your masters in English? I am considering getting mine.

[@onenonlyheart]

ok sweetie thankyou Natalia, you rock, how old is that cat?

[@TaniasWritingRealm]

Hello. How detailed does a beta reader need to go vs how far some do go? I've started a beta reading gig and I've gotten 5 start ratings, but I'm wondering if I'm going to far. I do a few line comments, answer any questions they have, and I continue with detailed comments about other things that stood out that could use improvement. I also make sure to leave positive comments as well.

[@cynicallyoptimistic7239]

That mug is very close to the size of my bucket.

[@camofrog]

I get so many proofing jobs that turn into copyediting jobs. And then I copyedit it at the proofing rate. Not fair.

[@yogawithlupe2995]

How do we become your client?

[@AlekhineAtilano]

Can we, proofreaders, explain to authors that there's a different approach to different kinds of edits because a lot of them don't know YET what they're differences are? I am a proofreader and when I ask them "Has it been through copyediting?", some will just respond "just do what you gotta do", without any style sheet sent to me, which makes me scratch my head. I only offer a proofreading service. The problem is we already agreed on the price and they only paid me for the hours when I should be paid per word for the kind of service they want from me. I should've declined but I'm afraid that the client won't employ me again.

[@lspoulin]

What is the difference between line editing and copy editing?

[@NataliaLeigh]

Great question! I'll make a video on this topic 🙂

[@amalamalik8419]

4:54

[@ifeomarita8732]

I got confused the day I heard Copy Editing. I didn't know he is one I ignorantly referred to as the proof reader. Thank you very much for the enlightenment. I got value. Emmanuel Emmyllionaire Akpe, thank you for making me to watch this video

[@pierejc]

How to reach you for business? Do you work on Fiverr ? You have an email?

[@parthibanathimuthur1473]

Hello I'm Parthiban. I'm from India. I had 10 year exp in the publishing area, and I'm still working as a template developer and typesetter so if you have any freelance job please get me...

[@linxlatham47]

I need to hire 3 separate editors?! sadness...

[@lostcloud6615]

coffee cup in hand i blink now its on your table, is this witchery is what you call editing

[@LoveCompassionPurity]

It almost sounds like content editing.

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

Do you think teenagers can do proofreading jobs if they've good vocabulary and grammatical knowledge?

[@usamawaqar4824]

informative video but did anyone else notice the giant-ass fly in the background???

[@andrewthomann1387]

Would have been helpful to see actual examples.