Coraline Book vs Movie Analysis and Theories - The Fangirl

A look at the Coraline novella versus the film and how they relate to some previous Coraline theories out there on the internet. So, if you love the Coraline book or movie, check this video out!
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[@Travis7060312]

Nobody listens to Coraline, that's the point. That's why they call her Caroline instead of Coraline. And why she finds the other world appealing to begin with.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I certainly picked that up watching the movie first.

[@demondollee]

Travis7060312 If we're taking the theory about her being trapped in the limbo into account,this could be something the Belldame is doing deliberately. She's trying to make the 'real' world be more unbearable for Coraline so when she goes back to the fake world, she will love it more in comparison even though the worlds haven't changed at all as it's all being controlled by the Belldame.

[@moonsong1043]

Travis7060312 wats the differents of the name?

[@tricorvus2673]

Moonsong104 : cOrAline is different from cArOline like this

[@PrismCavernsTarot]

Moonsong104 uuuuhhhhhh CHECK THE SPELLING for starters

[@miamorecadenza1226]

Wybe wasn't trying to say that he wouldn't survive he's telling her don't feel sorry for me I'm not even real, which is why he illustrates it by blowing the stuffing that makes up his hand.

[@Millie-tf7pn]

Miamore Cadenza I love that! It's even more depressing that way. He has enough conscience to know and understand that he doesn't even exist. He himself, his entity, isn't real and has no significance or meaning. He's just a pawn being forced to play a twisted game until he is no longer needed and will cease to continue. He has no soul so he can't go to a "happy place", in fact he doesn't have anything to keep his feelings and thoughts still there. And he knows this!

[@SaviorQuest618]

Miamore Cadenza oh

[@tammy5466]

I just thought it was because he was already dying.

[@crimsoncrash6849]

i thought he was saying it was to late for him but i like your idea more.

[@hopesy12u4]

Miamore Cadenza but doesn't that negate the fact that the Other Mother reigns their free will? Wybie shouldn't be _able_ to help her. How can we say that she has absolute control over these puppets, as the video's theory says, when they seem to be able to resist her influence? You could say it's all a ruse, a play put on by the bedlam who's the master puppeteer to trick Coraline, to make the escape all that more believable, BUT: what if she _is_ weakening for some reason, and that they _are_ able to resist her influence? And WHY COULDN'T SHE RECREATE THE WELL, DAMMIT!

[@annaproteau9785]

"Poor departed Angels. Couldn't bare to part with them...... SO WE HAD THEM STUFFED."

[@thesleepydot]

Wisquario Syndrome oof... dark 😬😬😬

[@swagster0688]

Idk why I laughed so hard at that

[@captainrandom5707]

Your Sweet Michael me to XD

[@valenciageode25]

I never understand why people want to taxidermy their dogs. It’s creepy. sweet, but creepy.

[@cyxltxrns2.095]

Lol

[@desmondben8576]

One thing that's always bugged me is when the other mother gets her hands in the key and Coraline asks why she doesn't have her own key and the other father says there's only one key. That's when the other mother takes him away like he said too much. By this point Coraline knows that the other mother is evil and stuff so it makes me wonder what the other mother is trying to hide at this point.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I have to think it has something to do with entry points. Yes, we know the Beldam is evil by then, but we don't know how many keys or portals to the Other World there are. So, if you start asking questions about how to get in/out, you might start looking for other ways out that the Other Mother doesn't want you to know about.

[@helenhodges2656]

The Fangirl I like your theory its interesting plus I didn't know about the book of Coraline I just kow about the film and seen it too

[@janeadams7108]

The Fangirl Remember how the cat tried to stop Coraline after she had the dream and wanted to get rid of the key near the ending of the movie, if the cat worked for the other mother maybe he knew that would be bad or he knew coraline would not be able to leave the limbo if we use your theory

[@prxncesslea]

Yep she trapped herself

[@prxncesslea]

By throwing the key in the well and the cat was trying to stop her she basically threw the key into the portal to the other world and gave it to the other mother

[@Jesse-sz6fp]

Why doesn't someone just interview Niel Gaiman and ask for the full story?

[@Ghosty144]

Perhaps there is no totally "correct" explanation. The best art/literature is the kind that can be interpreted many different ways and still be "right".

[@minkiii9557]

Ghosty144 Yeah. He made this for his daughters because it was either they were into this kind of stuff but it wasn't appropriate to him , or at some point his daughters wasn't finding what they craved for. I feel as if he added little things into the book he knew would get his kids going. Just thinking of crazy things. And then the Movie just took that no specific answer and put in there too. And also- its way more fun to use theories-

Because there isn't a "full story". The story is the one you read in the book.

[@turtswing]

As far as I'm aware, people DO try to ask Neil for more information about the story, but he tends to be pretty vague with his replies, as if to tell readers and fans to fill in the gaps on their own.

[@shadow_shine3578]

That would ruin thd magic

[@PheonixRynn]

I think each kid has a key to certain parts of the property, in which the Beldam cannot have until she has control on the childs soul. I think it could be why you do not see beldam in some parts of the property. I think beldams floating hair just might be hinting that her final resting place had water in it. like a......well.

[@Zzzk23]

Shell Bowen That's clever

[@prxncesslea]

I agree thats super clever

[@lpskitkat9315]

Shell Bowen Yes! I’m pretty sure in the beginning scene, when she sends the doll away/retrieves it, you can see the doll’s hair floating. If we say that the well is another portal to the Other World and the Other Mother used the water at the bottom to send the dolls up, our theories would be true.

[@ilovehachiko3697]

LPS KitKat My theory is that at the beginning the *cat* gave Beldam the doll.That totally makes sense right?

[@i_dont_post_bootlegs6924]

I like that idea

[@yandereskitty]

Mirrors can't be trusted.....I sleep in front of a giant mirror....

[@peanutthesloth7350]

Yandere Skitty Same here....once I saw a very creepy woman in there....I don't know if it was a dream or not.... *R.I.P*

[@katelynvictorino8364]

Yandere Skitty same, my closet doors are mirrors 😐

[@starnathanstar]

I've heard that having a mirror infront of your bed is bad juju

[@zoewr5428]

...

[@zakiyp8309]

sucks to be you xd

[@Brofessor_Oak]

Neil gaiman answers back if you tweet him a question

[@manglamort]

the eyes are the windows to the soul 😉

[@liliflowers4392]

megan PUFFFFFF

[@restingsadface]

Wow, your soo clever

[@nathamiel6467]

megan that was exactly my theory ,the other mother has no soul ,and she wanted coraline to sell her soul (like the devil) and in return she'll get to live in a world where she gets whatever she wants ,and thats by asking her to put buttons in place of her eyes(soul),(no one in the other world has a soul they're nothing but servants for the other mother),that's why the other world broke apart when coraline found the souls ,when you sell your soul there is no turning back that's the rule ,the other kids who were trapped agreed on what the other mother wanted but she betrayed them and locked them cause she's an evil devil

[@hopesy12u4]

megan the eyes _are_ the windows to the soul. So why did coraline collect just one "eye" for each ghost during the game? Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe.

[@prxncesslea]

Ha

[@laraanicic3589]

here is one thing waybe said if you fell into the well you can see stars in the middle of day and that explain why is in the other world always night and explain that on the bottom of the well is the other world

[@laraanicic3589]

Rayne Mastne yeaa

[@zondfinn2100]

Lara's Beauty that line of dialogue is interesting because how would anyone figure that out unless they fell into the well and came out again

[@laraanicic3589]

Gregory Rojas so wierd how much hidden history one movie can have

[@hopesy12u4]

LeagueOf Lara that is a very good point. But the well wasn't replicated in the beldam's fake world, was it? *_why?_* It is very likely that it _is_ the entrance to the beldam's dimension, but doesn't that mean that it is very possible that it js also the way out? Raise your hand: Anyone up for Coraline part 2?😆

[@prxncesslea]

Yes ! She needs to figure all this out and escape to the ACTUAL real world.

[@brewskiart]

I really think that the rats are something more sinister than the other mother cause the other father says that the rats are their friends not something they control. I think that the song they sing maybe isn't necessarily to Coraline herself but is to the Other Mother as maybe a warning. That they were there before the Beldam and they will be there when she falls and that eventually they'll come back to the real world. That they're only really listening to the Beldam as a means to an end and once the Beldam falls they won't have a use for her anymore. They seem more like demons than just rats because they say they have tails which could be symbolism of a monster or demon. Witches were known to make pacts with demons and the demons would give them servants to command but if they don't fulfill whatever the pact was everything falls apart. Maybe the pact was to get magical energy from children and give it to the demon in exchange for power and the rat's song is a reminder to the Beldam what's in store for her when she fails. Or maybe the rats are related to that creature old giant creature Coraline found in the corridor. Something older than the Beldam itself. I'm rambling now but I definitely think the rats are something more than just the Beldam's minions.

[@fopdoodle9419]

The rats are made out of sand, or sawdust or whatever, the cat showed this, so no they're just more puppets

[@XxCOOKEExxMONSTARxX]

fopdoodle only the fake band playing rats are

[@XxCOOKEExxMONSTARxX]

I thought so too mate

[@emphoenixcat1110]

In the book, they aren't just copies. They are actual rats, so I think you're on to something

[@viixzons]

fopdoodle no that was the jumping mice

[@annmarie3155]

The limbo idea is really cool! I never thought about it that way. Keep up the Fabulous work!!!

[@jakew.5883]

the theorizer's theory says that the finale world (real world end of movie) is real and the world after wibey sets coraline free and before she returns to find the kids souls, is the only limbo world

[@InfiGlo]

Corgi Corner What's your point?

[@catcher0]

i assumed the other wybie didnt go with her because he was near the end of his rope anyway, and he'd spare coraline some time. otherwise the beldam would have caught them too quickly. he was sacrificing himself.

[@lvrkiki]

slowhazard that's what I thought also

[@aWERFRGT6545BGFG]

i think its cuz hes self aware that hes not real

[@loremaster234]

Perhaps the Belldam could only get their souls by making the children fall in love with her, so they'd give them willingly. That's why she couldn't take them by force. Kind of like the devil perhaps? Your soul can't be taken, only given up

[@loremaster234]

Also, maybe Coraline didn't leave after arriving in the Other World the first time. Remember, she falls asleep in the Other World and wakes up in the real world. But as far as we know, the only ways to the Other World are through the well and the door. The cat is the only one who can pass through willingly. So perhaps she can return through sleeping, but perhaps not.

[@kitkat-gy5zr]

I think she stays in the other world because how else would she get back and thats why they wanted her to stay.

[@XxCOOKEExxMONSTARxX]

Lore Master23 I believe that was to entice Coraline into wanting to go back through the door by herself and to stay a longer each time (someone must have brought he back but I don’t think it’s worth making a theory of how she got back into her bed..just use imagination)

[@Duriiam]

I have a theory! (If nobody covered it) In the end of the movie, when the cat crosses the pole/light-post, it disappears. Does this mean she is STILL in the Other World?!? It might make sense. Could somebody elaborate on this?

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I think you may like the rest of my Coraline theories. :)

[@voluspa4263]

Duriiam That's actually quite possible. In fact, when the cat dissapears in the end scene, a loud thump noise is heard before the screen goes dark. Aka they visually hint towards that Coraline is stuck in the other world without even knowing it!!! Makes even more sense because of the happy bright scenes that where before this dark and dramatic thump.

[@Duriiam]

The Fangirl Already seen ‘em all, after I posted this :D great videos!

[@Duriiam]

korumpa1 Thanks! I agree, and this goes into stride with the Limbo Pink Palace theory that The Fangirl came up with. I don’t know why I didn’t realize it sooner :P

[@voluspa4263]

Yeah, and now when I think about it. They did show that the garden was shaped like the bedlams face which only strengthens that she's still there!! D: Although, if Coraline's still there,then why doesn't everyone have button eyes? It seems to be so that nothing she creates can be button eyeless? Any Ideas?

[@lenaoxton301]

the cat could possibly be the reincarnated spirit of the bedlam's first victim and the other mother was the original owner of the pink palace and she discovers the pocket world and creates her own laws. I didn't come up with that the therizor did if you like these videos I recommend his as well.

[@UserY2k3]

Jarrod Boyd or the cat could have belonged to the other mother and betrayed her to help coraline

[@fashionablyme8518]

Josh_ #23 but she hates cats

[@UserY2k3]

Savannah Martinez Thats why she hates cats because her cat betrayed her.

[@UserY2k3]

Kaylee Why not just enjoy the movie and not worry about any stupid theories.

[@LupineH0wling]

Its fun to connect the dots and fill in the voids that movies will not state

[@roastghost7573]

I was disturbed that the boy was like "The boy in the pic looked at the bubbles like he wanted to do something very nasty with them" that was like um ok.

[@LenaFerrari]

Hey. About the rats song, I believe it says that they have always been THERE (meaning the Other world), before she rose, like 'was born, and were there, like waiting, when she fell THERE, she didn't really fall, she went through the corridor, but if the original passage was the wheel, than the other word is technically UNDERNEATH the real world. And than they say SHE will be THERE when they rise from underneath. As if they intended to, after her fall, rise and take over her world, like somehow they were just waiting for her to rose and fall so they could rise. And they say that everyone will get what they deserve, right? Then maybe it is something about revenge, from who trapped then there maybe? I mean, only the rats and the cat seem to be able to trespass between the worlds, it's gotta be something there. Like they don't really belong down there. The game the cat 'plays' with the rats is so similar to the one the Beldame seems to be playing with Coraline. And the cat actually refers to the rats as souls, when he explains about giving them a chance to scape, or at least hope of it? Because I don't really remember, but just occurred to me that the cat and the Beldame could actually be parallels. It just seems like he is helping Coraline, but he never give her a clear answer. It's almost like he's playing with her. And he always seemed to have it all under control. Cats have the 'fame' of mysterious, related to magic and 'tricksters', but I not even sure if he IS a cat. Maybe it's just a form he assumed. He never introduced himself. He say they don't need a name, something like that, not sure if he said this or I implied when I read it, but even if he says this is a cat thing, he clearly says it in opposition to humans. And who else never says her name, rathering being referred to otherwise, like by 'the beldame' or 'the other mom'? She goes by the form she assumes and not a identity, just like 'the cat'. Who, by the way, seems to have a long history with her. The cat's voice, sounds to Coraline like her own voice, inside her head. Either is a way to say the cat is inside her head, like playing with her mind, or he IS a part of her mind, I guess. Well, so he says the beldame likes games, as he said he also did. He said he likes bothering her. And suggests Coraline to propose her a game, even though it's obvious the beldame wouldn't keep her words. We know he have fun giving false hopes to the souls he trapped... There's definitely something there! I can't tell if he works with the beldame, if they compete with each other, or if he is manipulating the whole thing. If she really is a woman who found this world and stayed there by dealing with magic and acquiring souls, who created it at first place? And with her so far three souls, compared to the rats the cat seems to be trapping, maybe she is playing the cat's game. Why was it important to the cat that she gets the other souls? And we se that her creations seemed to fall apart when Coraline took the souls away. That brings me to the corridor, that turns in to something that seems like the inside of a living thing when the BELDAME'S creation on the other world fall apart. Without what SHE built in it, it's like a living thing that Coraline is inside of, and maybe that thing would want the beldame to leave, but couldn't, because she also had powers, she also had souls. Maybe that's how the cat could get inside her head, and beldame was capable of reading it, because she was now part of something they could control. ... Sorry, I may have went pretty crazy by the end. But this really got me thinking. The rats poem, tough, I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Very clever, thank you for sharing all of that. Let me absorb it all and I'll try to write a better reply, lol.

[@ZoomingInOn]

Hmm

[@cielphantomhive9725]

The Fangirl eyes means they see every thing they have tail means their not human but demon/devils get what you deserveses it punishment in hell and underneath is hell rise meaning they will come for you

[@negetiveziel8820]

Ciel Phantomhive Are you trying to keep me up at night with that last line?

[@MsIreland75]

Helena Ferrari you are so right how did you come up with that you are so smart and mesmerizing

[@zukolover4life]

You guys, what if the other mother is actually a version of Lamia? Lamia was Greek monster that used to steal and devour other people's children because hers were killed or taken , depending on what version you read, so she takes these kids but really deep down she doesn't want to kill them which is why she "loves" them, in a version of the Lamia myth, Lamia is cursed to keep her eyes open forever to obsess over the images of her dead children, what if she gouged out her own eyes and replaced them with buttons because she couldn't stand the sight any more? Maybe the cat is a male version of the goddess Hera, the goddess who took Lamia's children, Hera would be someone who would be just as powerful and want to toy with Lamia without ever actually caring about Coraline, idk I may be wrong, but it sounds like it fits to me lol

[@shadow_shine3578]

Hmm nice theory

[@nanamiwu3380]

Love it

[@justanaverageperson7336]

Thats actually such a good theory

[@sophiehale1171]

That is so cool

[@Gabwabby]

I always felt that the dogs in the theater were their dead dogs

[@clarekent4110]

I could be wrong but maybe the "Sky full of stars in the middle of the day" thing could be evidence that the well is the portal to the other world because if I remember correctly it was always nighttime in the other world even when Coraline went during the day.

[@oklita284]

Yoooo

[@oklita284]

So she gave the other mother back the keyyyy

[@jeffery5716]

Cause your a sky cause your a sky full of stars

[@jeffery5716]

I wanna give you my heart

[@daydream1258]

THERE'S A BOOK!!?? GODDAMIT I NEED THIS!!

[@baconlover8634]

fatinifadzil IKR

[@fangirlcupcake4199]

fatinifadzil I READ THE BOOK FIRST ITS LIKE A MESSED UP VERSION OF ALICE AND WONDERLAND

[@Samantha-lp6kz]

I started reading the book at the end of the school year last year, but the school took my book saying that "It's a big kid book.", ASSGHVFUCGJ >:( I was in grade six, I was a big kid! I was in my final year at that school! GRR...

[@linehp_9606]

I read it in school and honestly I like it a bit better because she is fighting through all this alone making it creepier

[@myagonzalez2066]

really? my 5th grade teacher read us that book

[@leahholland7239]

In the book she calls the police at 2 am saying a monster took her parents from another world, if you were a police officer and got a call saying that at 2 am from a little girl, it sure does sound like a bad dream. So he told her to wake her mom up and make some warm milk.

[@PrincessFromHell139]

other Whybie cant go throught the tunel because he has button eyes. the cat can talk throught the tunnel because he doesnt have button eyes.

[@JewelApril13]

DragonMaster139 but what about the doll in the real world.

[@strawberrymilk467]

Golden Films not a living being lol

[@carolinam3779]

I really believe that the fur are actually spiders. They tend to gather around and form a huge mass of tiny legs, like the ants that do that to cross through water, given the fact that Coraline is afraid spiders, it makes sense, search pics of groups of spiders they look furry and beast-like until something disrupts them

[@GhoulishDays]

Carolina Mejías this is a good idea but what about the part when it feels like she put her hand in someone's mouth like if I was her I wouldn't touch the wall again... maybe the wall was old decaying and slimy and when she first touched it all the spiders ran away so when she touched it again she felt the slimy wall or something idk

[@br.sr.5939]

The beldam said in the book “i swear to my own mothers grave, so maybe its the grave of the beldams mother!

[@Jason-gg3si]

Just finished watching this movie and damnn my 11 year old self would probably be creeped out if I saw this in theaters at that time tbh. Pretty dope movie I would say coming from a 19 year old dude lol. Never too old for a kids movie! ANd HoLy shIt it was based on a book??? WANT IT

[@butterflytaster5553]

Jason I watched it when I was like eight, and it took me a few years to actually stop chickening out at the Other Mother's hand part. And lol there's a local book store where I live that has a copy of this book. I'm probably gonna ask for it now.

[@Jason-gg3si]

Butterfly Taster For me..despite my age.. the other mother gave me quite the creeps, as much as I don't wanna admit I am still afraid of dolls lol. I blame it all on my little sis and her collection of lalaloopsy dolls or whatever ya call them.. *Shiver* ohh and I got a question, Is Coraline a graphic novel or a book? or both??

[@Cindy-gt7xy]

Jason both

[@Jason-gg3si]

Both? even better. Thanks Cindy, Guess I'll just get both then.

[@maryanderson9748]

Butterfly Taster I watched it when I was six. I had nightmares for months.

[@riadmtr]

THE. TUNNEL. WILL. NOT. WORK. FOR. YOU. IF. YOU. ALREADY. HAVE. BUTTON. EYES.

[@JewelApril13]

Yve Kyle what about the doll thoooo

[@pandasnailjourney312]

Madame_Apple the doll is the way for the other mother to see whats wrong with coralines life

[@RawringRaverForever]

Madame_Apple the doll didn’t use the tunnel

[@khaza1wolfgurl]

Ooooooo

[@XxCOOKEExxMONSTARxX]

Golden Films it’s just a regular doll used as a tool not a sold or lost soul

[@DelilahDivesIneditor]

Neil Gaiman is such an amazing writer

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Oddly, when I read Coraline, I had so many questions that were unanswered that I was angry - I may have called Gaiman a lazy writer (maybe I just thought it...). But, after seeing more of his work I understand more of how his style works and how he likes unanswered questions.

[@watermage856]

I think the part where she feels the fur and finds it more like a mouth is because it is spose to be like the other world eating her alive...

[@mosquitomilk9877]

I never really got all the salt about the movie? So what if it's not 110% accurate to the book? It's still a damn good film.

[@TheMijoAaron]

Why is Coraline recently getting popular? Like is there a sequel coming out or what?

[@flamexprincessxx4336]

Aaron Rules it was recently added on Netflix

[@thewolfgamer7168]

No sequel 😫😫

[@thewolfgamer7168]

The developer/whoever made it said there is no point of a sequel

[@Emily-yt3rc]

I think that that fur/mouth thing in the tunnel is implying that the other world is a kind of beast. Maybe the other world corrupted the Beldame and that's why she is the way she is. Just a thought

[@katelynmyhren9634]

Why does the other mother never have food on her plate? Like the other father does but not the Beldam it's weird

[@nikkicastevens4749]

I think The Fangirls theory for this is that she feeds off the childrens soul.

[@softestzuyu6832]

Maybe because it doesn't have a soul? She feeds off of children's souls, and maybe in the movie she can eat bugs because every living thing has a soul? (Maybe the bugs aren't enough for her, so that's why she takes bigger things like children..?) I don't know. This part of my Coraline theory is still sketchy ^_^;

[@magnetshowdotheywork]

She knows the food is just projections and aren't real, so she doesn't eat it. Also, she can't feed off food she can only feed off souls.

[@d_m5_]

I agree with a lot of ur theories. I do agree that coraline is stuck in the other world and she didnt make it back. But i think she made it back home the first 2 times. But when she crosses over on the third time, she never makes it back after that. You can tell by the portals through the door.

[@urmom_mybed8806]

the eyes are door to the soul!!!! I made a theory that the eyes of the kids are the souls. when they say find our eyes they mean their souls which are the objects

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I mean, I can see the logic behind it, but it seems so much more complicated than to just say "soul" to begin with.

[@urmom_mybed8806]

The Fangirl i see... well thanks for replying ;D the eyes power the places.. and she gets her magic from the children. and Who's your favorite character in coraline? Mines the other dad because he helped her about and I loved the song he made. and the fact that he's a pumpkin makes me like him more. HES SWEET LIKE PUMPKIN PIE

[@myagonzalez2066]

i think they said eyes instead of souls because they did get buttons sewed in place of their real eyes and that situation was a big thing in the movie also i doubt they would know that their soul was gone in the first place because how would the kids know what the beldam was doing to them

[@deidei574]

What if the furry thing that she touches is actually the cat somehow? I feel like this fits into your theory about the cat being in cahoots with the other mother, in that way she could easily manipulate him into a portal so to speak. This could also explain why the cat can seemingly go to the other world whenever he wants. He also seems like a rather old cat.

[@juliangimenez417]

deidei574 like,the cat works as the link between the real world and the beldame's world,both physically and metaphorically

[@Possumbilitiy]

I have a theory, I think that the boring blue boy could be the beldams son and he fell into the well, the mother (beldam) tried to save him and fell in as well. The boy died but the beldam lived. When the beldam found the magical world in the well the mother brought her son back to life but it became twisted (often like those things in that world are) and he became the cat, since the cats eyes are so blue it could allude to the “boring blue boy” they lived peacefully together until the beldam realized she needed food, and began to prey on children. I think her son / the cat did his best to ward children off of the other world but was also kept under close control by the beldam since it was his mother.

[@chelseyjaramillo5708]

The for me is the movie. Even though the book looks creepy it's better on the movie. So yep

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

One could say the film improves in certain places Gaiman perhaps didn't think about.

[@baconlover8634]

Chelsey Jaramillo even though the book is normally better... that's true!

[@gleegleek4eva]

I wouldn't say so. Both are equally great but in seperate ways. I read the book as a kid and it quite literally scared the shit out of me. It's a pure concept peice filled with ambiguity and plot holes and that's what made it even creepier to me (everything was isolated and askew. just the descriptions made everything seem bleak, hollow, and isolated). The movie, however, is a fully realized and fully saturated peice of competent and visually pleasing storytelling. Both did their jobs well, just differently.

[@SSchithFoo]

Also the movie is actually more slow paced than the book which is unusual.

[@Yellow0re0sn4cks]

SSchithFoo Well, kind of. In the movie Coraline follows the rat in the middle of the night to open the door and find the portal, while in the book she follows the rat just to find the brick wall. I thought the book took longer, except in the whole "Coraline's parents are now gone" thing. That one was quick to happen.

[@CherryDarlingno1]

another person without a ticket... feels like it would be "ah, new victim."

[@fluffyrainbows2299]

i think the writing about the rats are saying that they are the original inhabitants of that world. I think they are also foreshadowing the fact that coraline will solve the mystery

[@cloudsubliminals222]

In my opinion, I think Coraline went home at the end because it is kind of a kids movie. Maybe I'm wrong Idk.

[@larsrolighed1596]

I think so too!

[@cloudsubliminals222]

Lol cool

[@cjcathead2468]

Maddy forever2 but that's the thing, kids will be fooled into thinking she's in the real world just like coraline is being fooled.

[@cloudsubliminals222]

Cj cathead I see where you are coming from but I meant in the literal sense that it's not that kind of movie. But that's just me.

[@ellenardi6333]

The book's epigraph is "Fairy tales are more than true. Not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten." The book does have strange/deeper meanings and implications, but Coraline's victory is of central importance.

[@frenchorange]

The corridor having an organic feel to it give me a huuuuuuuuuge eldritch abomination vibes, which totally rocks!

[@usedtiddyjuice]

I believe they added the dead stuffed dogs to give an explanation for all the dogs in the theater because it might be hard to connect that the ones in the theater are the dogs that have died and another creepy detail to add because it's kinda creepy to stuff dogs and collect them, at least for most people it is

[@kitkatcookie4967]

Here’s a quick theory ;) the longer Coraline is in the other world The longer the bedlam can feast on the other souls. I also think the Beldam uses the souls and puts them in the dolls because the souls were already in the exact house so when the beldam makes the soul sand she puts it in the doll taking there eyes she sewed the buttons of a child’s buttons and when she feasts on that child’s soul maybe there soul goes into her body and stays there which means she can see through the buttons when they are in the real world.

[@SagesBay]

14:37 That's a famous spell for revenge; We have eyes and we have nerves; we have _____ we have ______; You'll all get what you deserve when we rise from _______. The first two blanks are of the animal for the source and the last is for if its white or black magic.

[@scrumdalicious6117]

When I was little I was Always scared of little doors. 😂😂

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Me too! Only, I was terrified because of the troll in Cat's Eye!

[@alyxkohut]

In one of the later chapters Miss Spink mentions a Mister Lovat. She told Coraline that he said he thought the well might go down for half a mile or more. I don't know if that could be the reasoning for the movie bringing in Wyborne Lovat.

[@uhwhat1941]

I really love your videos keep the great work up :)

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you love

[@anya2405]

Just putting this out there, I really love the structure of your theories and they way you format your ideas. You mention The Theorizer a lot, and I watched most of his theories but they were so sloppily made I couldn't watch them all. Unlike him, you have evidence to back up your theories and a seamless way of transitioning into the ideas that you have. I really like that. Good job.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Any time someone says I'm better than a larger channel, they become my new favorite person. So, thank you new favorite person!

[@anya2405]

You're welcome ^_^

[@claudialemley2187]

the dog doesn't speak in the movie

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Did I mess up and say that wrong? There's a dog that speaks in the book in the Other World theatre.

[@lightofdeath7446]

Wolfie Lemley yes it does go get brain surgery u dumbass

[@spiralsart_1215]

@@lightofdeath7446 I had a f**king brain surgery. Not funny, jerkwad.

[@spiralsart_1215]

@@lightofdeath7446 and it doesn't. So who's the dumbass?

[@thesleepydot]

I thought it was funny that her right hand came after Coraline when that's the hand she swore on. BUT the fact that she swore on it is actually the whole reason she had to give up on that hand. Because of that promise the hand sort of "belonged" to Coraline now, reason to which it could go to the real world after Coraline. Now that doesn't mean the hand isn't controlled by the beldam anymore, so she could use it to her advantage to retrieve the key.

[@thesleepydot]

I also want to mention that the ghosts in the book are never said to have button eyes as far as I remember, thus what they say in the book is not controlled by the beldam.

[@NessaTheBat1]

I began to notice something: The reason why the other Wybie didn't escape with Coraline, is in fact because that he wouldn't survive in the other world. When the beldam made the doll at the beginning of the movie, we see that the soul sand became cotton, probably died after so many years in the real world. That would happen to the other Wybie after some time if he goes to the real world. Is just an idea I got after watching this video a lot of times. ^^

[@txt4]

Beldam: *takes me My mom: -gets out belt for beldam- Beldam: *FINE YOU CAN HAVE HER BACK,SHE IS WEIRD ANYWAY*

[@mollymakesthings1458]

Actually in the movie the other father does want to help her but the other mother (beldam) is making him. When hes trying to kill her he says "Im sorry, so sorry, mothers making me, I dont wanna hurt you" so in the movie and the book The father does want to helpbut cant

[@alexadicocco]

Maybe there is two keys instead of one.... **ilumnati theme song plays**

[@variety4573]

I think having wybie in the story makes it more interesting. Also coraline throwing the beldams hand inside the well-since I think the well is a portal to the other world, she is giving the beldams hand back. (Ik it’s a bad theory)

[@restingsadface]

But here's the thing, the books have there on cannon, and the movie has its cannon that why there is a Whybe in one and no Whybe in the other. You can't just count them both as the same. And that is kinda an adaptation job. To either establish there new cannon of stick with the one of the book.

[@BubbieBunz]

Wybie is my favorite character

[@MrAdryan1603]

An interesting thing I noticed when I recently bought the book online, it's classified as fantasy/horror and I thought that was really funny. Nothing to do with kids, just horror.. and doesn't that suit the underlying movie plot which is light and tailored for children? I have developed this fascination (hmm.. obsession? Fascination. Lol) with the Coraline story and I came to the same sort of conclusions about what it really meant when I watched the movie a few times and that's probably why I love your theories so much. I might have commented this before, but you are so good at what you do and you've filled in so many gaps for me and the logic is undeniable and it really has added to my personal little Coraline experience. Thanks for all your hard work and exhilarating and fascinating ideas! Cheers, girl.

[@amihan3290]

"floating tentacle hair" WITH HER STRUCTURE!?!?!? Chilly book 😬😬😬

[@snarahh5675]

hey did miss forcibal (didn't spell that right) hurt her hand or something cause she had like a bandage on it

[@cacaupop006]

Has a theory that says that "beldam" or the other mother, in fact was already human and she was the first owner of the rose palace, she supposedly fell into the well (the well is a portal to the other world) and Got stuck there, there's a scene where Wybie says if you look at the bottom of the pit you can see the same stars by day, and a great detail of the other world is that there is always night there, then continuing, to beldam Fell there and could not return until one day a new resident arrived in the house that was actually Wybie's great-grandfather or the father of the twins, he ended up going to the other world only that he managed to escape the beldam and when he came back He told everyone but no one believed, so his daughter one of the twins was caught so he restudied to move there after 25 years another child was caught and then another another Wybie's great-grandfather felt guilty for having moved and left those children Live there knowing everything, when the great-grandfather of the aibi died he reincarnated in the cat (so the cat lives with Wybie and he tries to help the coraline and that's why beldam hates him so much) anyway this theory is very big but detail In the end the coraline throws the key in the well ie she returned to beldam. Then, continuing to Beldam when she fell into the pit she gained a "power" that this world offered her. So she started to attract kids with sweets, treats and more. Then the theory that wybie was Beldam's son was wrong. Well, when Beldam fell into the pit, she gained the power of this world. So, now, she who created all the neighbors of the rose palace. Ex: Wybie, Charlie. Well, it was her puppets. And now, you ask me: but why Wybie and Charlie were trying to help Coraline? For some reason, beldam placed pieces of the children's souls unintentionally on Charlie & Wybie.

[@pereacat1188]

That's what the theorizer said

[@grace_b6767]

I love your name it’s perfect mix between weird and cool

[@thedailyheflin2259]

I've always wondered in the beginning of the movie while the beldam was making Coraline's doll, there's a drawer that has many pairs of buttons. I'm curious on why the kind of buttons matter. The beldam took a second before finding the black buttons, as if the kind of buttons serve a meaning.

[@buffysummers5828]

I never understood why the movie changed soul to eyes. That was always weird to mex

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I agree, it had to be something about trying to keep it nicer for the religious audience members. I mean, ParaNorman made one small gay joke and parents were storming out of the movie demanding a refund in the theatre I was at, so just imagine if Coralilne had touched on something religious like a soul being trapped by a monster!

[@bryanjohnson5327]

The eyes are the gateway into people's soul. There's an expression that's something like that so maybe that's why

[@shookpidgeon2757]

hi lol Because the eyes are the door to the soul, the beldam takes their eyes, which is better then she takes their soul. Also it fits with the doll theme

[@LexiMarie-tf8ev]

The eyes are the window to the soul.

[@alessia4535]

i loved the book a lot more that the movie because of the changes

[@emillee-raine]

I just theorized that Coraline is really lonely since her mom and dad always seem busy for work or busy in general. So she preoccupies herself with her imagination. Basically I always thought, what if the whole storyline was her imagination/daydream/ just a game she made up so she has something to do. She wished to have this amazing life so she creates her own, and how it could possibly happen then soon comes to realization (metaphore for growing up, learning the real world or just going through puberty or something) that nothing is perfect. Perfect doesn't exist and people who seem perfect usually have a lot of secrets. The fake world had many of secrets. There were hints of her kindof knowing something bad would happen (knowing there is no such thing as perfect) but she doesn't want to admit it at the time. (In the movie it zoomed in on the mom tapping her fingers against the table in a evil villain sort of way). She soon finds out their is no such thing as perfect and comes to the real world instead of the 'innocent' la la land she built and realized her life could be so much worse. She also realized how much she truly would miss her real parents not being around at all compared to being in the house and not listening to her and appreciates evwrything her parents do (work to take care of her). I basically metaphore it for growing up realizing the real world. I also always thought, what if the button eyed dimension was just everything bad in her kife in general being thrown at her (going through life with ups and downs) just her mind makes them seem bigger then they were and she manages to save herself. Creating a way of managing to save herself also goes back to my first theory. Something I just kinda realized while typing this made come out as if she was depressed, creating things to make herself not feel depressed, realizing she can't do that because surpressing makes it worse, it getting bad, then saving herself. Wow... i don't know if that makes sense at all to other people, but it does to me Also as for Wiby I think that was someone trying to help her, but she kept pushing away and in her dark times where she feels like everything is against her she realizes someone is there.

[@business_pear]

Actually, when the ghost child says 'It doth not hurt', I think they're referring to the other mother saying it doesn't hurt to sew the buttons in.

[@ursapaganmajor]

The song means they were there longer than coralline. Possibly as long or even longer than the beldam

[@jessicav.349]

We are small but we are many (Depicting that there's many of the rats but they are small) We are many we are small (Other way around the first sentence) We were here before you rose (Either before Caroline was born since the Beldam is really old to trap that fairy or Caroline came to the pink Palace since they're up on a hill and/or on top of the other world or going to the Other world) We will be here when you fall (Either when Caroline dies the Beldam will still continue her soul collecting or figurative speech of her going to the other world) We have teeth and we have tails (I don't know but my best shot is that when you bite something it tears or breaks or whatever, since its teeth and they can use teeth to move around, to manipulate things and tails can be use to attract things. Especially cats, and tails can be caught easily. Slowing them down or stopping them. Kinda like how the Beldam can manipulate the movements, actions, and anything of what she made. We have tails we have teeth (Refer to other sentence) We were here before you fell (The Beldam is old and so is the world she created so like the other line it's either the figurative speech or before Caroline dies.) You'll be here when we rise (When people rise into power you'll see some or a lot of truth of that person. So they maybe saying that Caroline will see the truth of the Beldam and the other world. And you see this with the other father and the mirrors and such.) We have eyes and we have nerverses (Eyes are the windows to the soul. So they have souls and nerves help the brain realize things like pain, emotion, control over body and the 5 senses and such. So they have souls and they can sense and feel emotions and such.) We have tails an we have teeth (Refer from other lines) You'll all get what you deserveses (Meaning that since Caroline isn't accepting the Beldams love they'll get this sorta backlash from her. That from Caroline being this curious and not "loving" towards her and not accepting the eyes she'll get what the Beldam think they deserve. "They" being the previous souls and all.) When we rise from underneath (Underneath my symbolize the other world. And them going to the real world. Probably to mess with her or that world. To either lore or mentally hurt, or maybe the reason why her parents were missing in the first place.) This is my interpretation not saying its 100% right.

[@nathanmelo6738]

Lil' Animator - You literally spelled Caroline throughout your entire comment! 😂 CORALINE

[@expeditionbuster]

I know these are older videos but I just discovered your channel and am going through this whole playlist. For me, I'd say the corridor between the worlds in the movie seems less to be like the well and more like a birth canal or something like that. You mentioned in one of your Coraline videos that the rain in the scene where Coraline discovers the well is a symbol of rebirth. The tunnel between the world looking like a birth canal, moving, squeezing, and shifting would also tie into the same image of birth or rebirth. Or, in Coraline's case, given your theory, potentially a birth into death, like a reverse birth.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

No, no, KZbin shows me comments in chronological order across all videos, so please - binge away! I had not considered the corridor to be a birth canal, but that's an interesting way to look at it, especially since it's slimey and has a tongue-like quality. I wish Gaiman would give us more details on these types of things!

[@paw9122]

2:17 Pretty sure the other mother just spies on her through the doll in the movie to learn about what isn't perfect in her life, and in the book she probably reads her mind or can look into the other world.

[@spicynegra94k]

why would the other wybie go into the real world. there can't be two of them.

[@OnlyMichaelJackson]

5:15 The cat can talk in any world. I just think he chooses not to in the real world. In the movie the cat talks about how he's not "the other anything" which means he doesn't belong in either world and can be in both. The Other Wybie was created by the Beldam so he can't survive in the real world because he belongs in the Other world.

[@cinnamonfun]

I think the reason Wybe's hand turned to dust was becuase he was only made to live long enough to convince Coraline to stay in the Otherworld. That's why he blows it away, to say that he's already dying and she needs to worry about herself.

[@avaclark2829]

Love your vids

[@cielphantomhive9725]

"we have eyes we have nerveses we have tail we have teeth youll all get what you deserveses when we rise from underneath" underneath i is hell what you deserveses is punishment in hell and eye means they see everything tails devils and demons have tail right that all i got

[@TheFangirlWatches]

But what in the world did a little girl do to deserve punishment? It's so erie!

[@fashionablyme8518]

The Fangirl they might mean the beldame

[@randomtree7295]

+The Fangirl Hmm... Maybe, just maybe, she killed her parents. Just think about it. She never liked them, so she ended their lives. But she realises that it was a mistake so she creates the other father and the other mother. However, when her imagination does not fill the void she tries to go back to her old life, but you can't really bring someone back to life. That struggle of accepting what she have done is shown through the beldam. But hey! That's just a theory.

[@pereacat1188]

Well if you get the graphic novel, where in the book they say coraline is winey, and the movie, where she just complains all the time and is kind of a pain in the butt. Winey + complainy= punishment.

[@pereacat1188]

A FILM THEORY;) MAT PAT ALIVE IN DEEZ COMMENTS

[@trudymedina1648]

Ok so then here's the real question how do escape the other world really

[@cjcathead2468]

trudy medina16 it depends on how much power belldam has I assume, she might be able to keep you there forever or just simply move the exit.

[@ritterhale2882]

Also I think the cat is on her side because he is always teaching her stuff and when wybie is talking about how his grandma's sister disapeard it shows the Cat purr in a bad way when he sees the doll from the window like he knows what's gonna happen and how it happens before so he's not happy about it. So the cat is deffintaly on her side. Also when Coraline goes threw the portal when the mom leaves the car sees her threw the window and purrs again in that growl tone.

[@michaelbarniskis2154]

You can tell in the book that the beldam is lying about not taking Coraline’s parents right away. You can tell because when the beldam shows Coraline the image of her parents on vacation they say the they aren’t worried about Coraline because she has the other mother to look after her. This is a lie because in the book Coraline is given the buttons on her first day there. She refuses, goes home, and can’t find her parents. How would they talk about the other mother in the mirror if they didn’t even know about her.

[@janes_life5247]

What is the the hairy thing?

[@ryleesimmer2395]

Maybe whenever the mice say they were "here before Coraline fell and she'll be here when they rise", they are implying that they were being controlled/working for the Other Mother when Coraline entered the new dimension/universe, or "fell into the well/trap", and the mice will eventually reveal or Coraline will realize she is in a limbo Pink Palace!

[@yulestghoul]

Your question about why the dead dogs on the shelf were present in the movie but not the book is interesting. I honestly think that was just the film makers trying to make it more interesting visually, but, I don't know. Nice catch!

[@kiwiskitten7533]

In the beginning of the movie the wheel the belldam turns is very dusty and has cobwebs, implying that it is very old

[@Rattacadabra]

I know I'm way late but I think the song references how the beldam came to be. Maybe. "We were here before you fell"? The well is said to have a deep bottom but that there's a starry night sky when you're down there. Fairy rings are in legend whenever​ someone (an individual, like maybe a young child) does something to summon one, kinda like doing a prayer, or in the case of mushrooms, they tend to pop up in really moist and fertile land fast. There's a hint that the beldam buried her mother. Maybe in that universe the Western Expansion happen faster than our own. Beldam was a young child maybe, her mother and father building a home out of local wood, and making a nice well. Something happened to her father and he basically disappeared without​ a trace and her mother got very ill. one evening Beldam realized that she needed a bucket of water from the well. she got some, came home and walked in on her mother dying violently, maybe she's had a seizure or is having a heart attack. but either way, watching her mother die in such a way, without being able to help, not being able to do anything but try to get rid of her mother's fever with the cold water she drew. The next day Beldam had to go and bury her mother. dragging her corpse out into the wilderness and trying her hardest to make a grave, but being a young girl, she's only able to make a shallow one. (hence mushrooms.) Out of grief, she visited her mother daily, and prayed (as at the time everyone was predominantly Christan.) and her physical and mental health declined with the following weeks, perhaps developing a form of depression. Beldam may have started to see odd rats and spiders, becoming friends with them, and told her some odd things that further ruined her mental state. One day, the tired, lonely Beldam went to her mother's grave, as she neglected to do so in weeks. Perhaps weakend by malnutrition and dehydration, becoming more depressed and more insane. She prayed upon arrival, and a fairy girl appeared. Beldam and this fairy became friends. The fairy lifted her out of her depression, but the damage to the Beldam's mind was done. in the evenings, this fairy girl would leave. Beldam heard her older mice friends whispering to her. she could be happy again. she could have power. she could have her parents back. but on one condition. She needs to convince the fairy to go into the well. Beldam loved the idea of going back to her old life, and dreamt about it. Her father, strong and willing, her mother, kind, but in a fragile way, as always. The next day, her fairy friend brings her a button, which was this fairy girl's favorite, and decided to give it to her human friend. Beldam pretended to be happy and excited to receive it, and eventually suggests to go outside, since she had to draw some water from the well. Fairy girl complies. they chatter happily about random, meaningless things, and upon arrival, Beldam realises that it's starting to rain hard. The fairy girl urges Beldam to go home, but the broken and messed up girl refuses, and ends up slipping into the well some. Fairy girl grabs the Beldam, trying to help, but the rats voices ring through her head, and Beldam drags the fairy down with her, using the fairy as a cushion of sorts, as the well was fairly deep. She of all people would know, her father made it. as they fell fast to the ground Beldam had a moment of realisation that she too will not only be trapped, but killed too. The rats voices spoke to her, thanking her, telling her she can enter there world, and have nearly unlimited power, becoming what we know her as.only downside, was that Beldam was unhappy. She could pretend her parents were alive and well, but they weren't good enough. She thought this was because the fairy didn't give her enough power. time passed and a new family took claim to the land. either continuing to build on, or destroying the old one. She learned of this through the mice, her only friends. They suggested this may be the time to strike and she wondered how she may coax the child to stay trapped here. That's when she remembered the button. she could make a doll, but how to get the child on the right track to her web? well, a certain door of course! this door was more unique though. leading to the child's play room. hence starting a string of disappearances over the years. there. long ass story based on my own imagination with possibly plenty of plot holes but screw it. I'm tired. goodnight.

[@Johnmaloney1962]

Insomniana, great story bru

[@ohbubbas461]

I watch the movie on the daily now that it is on Netflix this movie is an example of a movie better than a book

[@lolicdia]

I think the creepy song is about the other kids and Coraline. “ We are small but we are many ” three kids “ We were here before you rose ” they’ve been trapped there for years and the fairy for centuries before Coraline was born and got there. “ We will be here when you fall” when Coraline is thrown inside the mirror they are waiting for her “You will be here when we rise” Coraline indeed frees the kids souls but she’s still stuck in the other world. Also most of the songs in the movie seem to be interpreted by little kids

[@kaitomomota4336]

I think the meaning of the rats song is that they were the ones who told Coraline about the well because they say “we were here before you rose we will be here when you fall”.

[@hopesy12u4]

4:36 _Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?_ How many hags do we know that have magic mirrors?

[@theidiotsfromplanetzognoid3637]

MAGIC mirror on the wall

[@minemaster-dm9sv]

cool video

[@brooke4124]

About the rat's song. I think when it says "We were here before you rose, we will be here when you fall." I think it's talking about how the Beldam rose up to obtain the world, and that they (the rats) will be there when the Beldam falls. Then it says that they were there before she fell, and they will be there when she rises. Meaning she "fell" down the well, and they will be there when she rises up it again.

[@ghostpurr9570]

what if the corridor is being turned inside in it starts with having fur inside of it and ends with having the inside of a month inside of it

[@ishredchildreninboxfans754]

The movie is better then any book ever written

[@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395]

Sorry, ruined the like count by being the 667th :(

[@ZombieGamer342243]

HappyPonyJunior oh u cheeky madam

[@ZoomingInOn]

I was going to do a video on this sort of thing as well, and I still might, but nice job!

[@xIzami]

I've never read the book, but i immediately recognized the art style because I read Varjak Paw and David McKean illustrated that as well :D

[@Bruh-fb9dt]

My theory is that Coraline commits suicide because of her terrible life and then goes to heaven until god realizes she is a sinner and then sends her to hell which is the other mother or the devil soon realizing her ways waking up to think of it as a dream yet still in hell because she is a sinner hence the reason the cat still goes through the pole as a sighn of hell

[@TheFangirlWatches]

And people say my theory is dark!

[@emillee-raine]

Dang I didn't expect this theory and its actually one of my favourite ones

[@hiimwinzy1483]

I always remembered when my stepdad wanted us to read..i read this novel at 9 years old!..and the movie xD

[@zoehernandez6059]

I have a theory on the song and I believe that the song is saying that they have to trick coralline so they can be free because at some point in the song they say they will watch her fall as they rise meaning that once the other mother is through with her they may be set free from the other world and hopefully carry on with a great life

[@charlottethatcher5563]

My theory about why there are only three spirits in the mirror is because in the book they state that if they go into the light, they shrivel and are gone, but how would they know that? There must have been many other ghost children that did go out into the light but unfortunately disappeared.