"Coraline Theorists" Are Completely Unhinged

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A deep dive into the deranged minds of people who make Coraline theory videos on KZbin.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. A while back I did some videos analyzing the stop motion animated horror film Coraline (2009), but in making these videos, I became acquainted with a strange corner of the internet: the Coraline theorist community.
These individuals started off looking for hidden meanings and developing theories but have since devolved into a cesspool of complete lunacy, schizoposting and delusions of self-importance. Today I delve into the twisted minds of A Random Critique, The Fangirl and The Theorizer.
Chapters
00:00 The Strange World of "Coraline Theorists"
02:46 Intro
04:15 Don’t Trust The Cat
05:55 Sponsored by Audible
07:16 The Cat Is A Fairy Theory
12:56 Coraline Isn’t Real
17:42 Coraline Core Theory
19:51 The Reality of the Pink Palace Limbo World
26:52 The Coraline Hive Mind is Wildin'
28:43 Coraline Mega Theory
30:12 Van Gogh Theory vs The Shining Theories
31:35 Mini Theories
32:28 Most Insane Theories of The Theorizer
37:12 The Cat Is the Beldam's Son??
40:34 The Two Cat Souls Theory
48:07 Mega Theory: The Grand Finale
52:30 Where are the Coraline Theorists Now?
53:40 My Coraline Theory
#Coraline #OtherMother
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[@TheTheorizer]

OMG 😂 let me explain myself: Okay so essentially everything from parts 6-11 were me trying (and failing) to figure out “wtf is up with the cat” lol. It was a massive exercise in throwing ideas out there until I got something solid… But I don’t regret it, because it led to the whole “cat IS the other world” idea that is more coherent. THAT was my final conclusion. You can see the peak of my absurdity riiiiiiight before that, when I “see the cat in the shadow” before finally snapping back 😂It was wild, the “crazy parts” were all uploaded in a 5 month span of me bending in on myself & exposing myself & making theories on my own theories to find the light again 🤣 Most of the commenters knew what was going on, it was a journey they were apart of, the compilation sadly loses that element. So you’re right, the 2-cat-son-grandpa stuff is nuts, but surprisingly it served its purpose (it walked so my solid stuff could run). You're right, I was absolutely the originator here, and as you pointed out, I tried to reign back some of the others. It really bugged me, especially the genuine seriousness some had. ffs now TikTok has gotten ahold of it, and I’ve given up. I certainly don’t believe it all was “intended” by the makers, I try to make that clear later on, obviously only solid stuff should be considered there. It's not just Coraline tho, a chunk of my channel consists of me diving into the furthest corners of a lore and saying “this COULD be here”, then having fun with creating & filling plot holes, but usually the creators have no intentions. Well *sometimes* they do, but a lot of my theories are just me examining possibilities; sometimes it goes crazy far… My Coraline vids are actually my LEAST unhinged (aside from my concrete show predictions & stuff). I also want to highlight I made all of this when I was 14 years old. I thought it was cool AF, and most people seem to see through the nonsense into anything valuable (as they should). Also yes, I’m insane.

[@leonardoespino9780]

@SmileAway21you have no idea how many dinners I also had… basically these coraline videos were my teenage years that is why I hold some love to them even if they are just nonsense 🤣🤣

[@IIZylark]

You could also say "yeah my bad, I made up a bunch of stuff with no supporting evidence, research, or taking the original book into account, sorry about that!"

[@TheTheorizer]

⁠@@IIZylarkI constantly took the book into account, and have volumes of evidence, watch them for yourself lmao

[@IIZylark]

@@TheTheorizer No thank you. I've seen all I need to see. It's very clear that you did not, or if you did, you ignored the very clear intentions of the author and details straight out of the book. As CZ points out multiple times, I could say "what if" to everything too since there's literally no evidence for the things you mention. What if it's the multiple cats controlling me to reply to your comment right now??? OOOooo spooky theory, come watch 18 more videos of mine!

[@CZsWorld]

I love how you could have just taken this opportunity to say it was all a joke, but you decided to double down. A true Coraline Theorist to the end lmao 🥲 It was fun to watch though, satire or not! Glad there's no hard feelings haha 🤘

[@Youtube221B]

A Random Critique doesn't remember Neil Gaiman wrote why the Cat doesn't have a name in the book. Cats don't need names because they already know who they are.

[@gabriellemadrid2831]

Exactly!! YesYaaaasssssss! The damn cat says it in the movie and book. 👆

[@methuselah8885]

@@gabriellemadrid2831In fairness, if knowing the cat's name would give you power over it why would it admit to having one?

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Nice.

[@suchitalvarez2677]

a lot of these theories can be disproven by shit in the book lol.

[@andii2980]

She's a bozo talking out of her behind for views

[@Abcd-cq4ib]

Bro went from theories to roasting😂

[@AzHades520]

New Cz ruthless

[@alexbennet4195]

@@andii2980bruh…

[@Likelyfairy]

And I’m here supporting it 😌

[@joshsigned2500]

Less wars, more petty drama

[@folieadeux147]

CbaumsWorld

[@dedpotatoes8259]

Adding the Theorizor in the lineup surprisingly makes him sound way more sane than he actually is- 💀

[@Danielmarq606]

I honestly dont know how far he is just joking and how far he actually believes it

[@alannatherson7721]

@@Danielmarq606 I don't think he knows at this point.

[@TheTheorizer]

@@alannatherson7721we may never know

[@vibeanddie8926]

Still enjoy their content tho. Some of them are genuinely fun, the Mort videos however, should definitely stop..

[@dedpotatoes8259]

@@vibeanddie8926 I feed off the chaos. Though I do worry for my own sanity trying to watch anything DreamWorks. I can't lie 😔

[@HollandCrafthart]

The Theorizer is unhinged on purpose, so you definitely do need to take that into account

[@Jessidafennecfox]

He also dissects a load of univeres and genre theories that likely broke his mind.

[@TheTheorizer]

@@Jessidafennecfoxmort

[@shenquanruiwife69]

​@@TheTheorizer U shaped my teenage years

[@tashabeck4121]

@@TheTheorizerbrb cackling

[@tashabeck4121]

Then again so is Mort probably

[@BigBoris]

I love coraline theories but sometimes it just gets…… yeah. Sometimes certain lengths shouldn’t be reached.

[@robinkholmes7127]

Imagine the writers of Coraline looking at these; laughter, shock and derp faces

[@nerdjournal]

@@robinkholmes7127 Why? You aren't a writer, are you? People don't write, so we people come to the same conclusions as us. They write to give you a world to explore and find your own way through them. If making theories is lame or cringe, the only thing worse is making a "nu-uh" video saying your theory is wrong because mine is right. That's trying to force people to imagine the same way as you, instead of forming their own adventure from the materials. Writers don't laugh at people's theories, they are happy their work touched them enough that they created theories.

[@davemccage7918]

@@nerdjournalI’m a writer. I’m laughing at these people. Not for having “a different imagination”; no there’s nothing wrong with that . What I find hilarious is these ‘imaginative’ individuals trying to articulate their Adderall fueled, crackpot, conspiracy theories on camera and attempt to sell it off as “content”. Anything for those sweet, sweet views & likes, that replenish the void left in them by their alcoholic fathers I guess.

[@rachelknightonline]

@@davemccage7918and they always look the same lmao

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

That, exactly what you said bigboris, most got me banging my head

[@tapuchris-cb9jy]

"At least my parents didn't name me Spike" I'm 💀.

[@jaymethomas5170]

I can't believe your parents named you skull emoji.

[@tapuchris-cb9jy]

@@jaymethomas5170 Lmao 🤣

[@thrashandburn10221]

Standard millennial family: "Meet my son, Spike. Don't mind our pet dog Reginald, and try not to overfeed our pet fish Thibauld Morrisette Aniston III." Also they have a pet rock named Chancellor

[@tapuchris-cb9jy]

@@thrashandburn10221 🤣🤣🤣

[@coryc5969]

@@thrashandburn10221 this comment was way too oddly specific, is everything okay at home?

[@markalexander3659]

"in the movie we rarely get to see Coraline REALLY sleep" - ah, yes, as opposed to most movies that will frequently have an 8-hour scene of a character sleeping,

[@YSL8704]

The Theorizer is probably just doing all of his theories for shiggles, he's literally made theories about Mort from Madagascar being Death and Satan💀.

[@debater452]

Actually that is canon not joking

[@YSL8704]

@@debater452 kzbin.info/www/bejne/noDFZmiDlqqhl5Isi=hdszA7kgdvqZgZet

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

one of his most legit theories im not kidding

[@lyna7038]

I feel like I would’ve ate that up if I were a 12 year old so honestly there is an audience out there who likes that type of content

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

@@lyna7038 nothing to "eat up" you're just forming an opinion without having watched any of the content, that's being immature

[@Alex-ut5ou]

The Chernobyl cleanup is probably the only one mentioned here that could be true and im down with it.

[@davemccage7918]

I mean, that’s not really a theory, it’s more or less canon due to the medal being present.

[@kookdisberry]

im pretty sure this theory is true

[@streax8885]

​@@Mammoth1848but Chernobyl isn't Russia?! It's Ukraine or back then USSR but still not russia perse

[@AlessandroPioltelli]

@@Mammoth1848he’s literally blue… and Chernobyl isn’t in Russia… it’s in Ukraine

[@mjslack3073]

@@Mammoth1848who’s blue and wears a medal given to those who risked their lives to help with the clean up

[@accidentallyamy1063]

Registered nurse here 🤚 I’m just dropping in to offer my services to treat the 3rd degree absolute BURNS the first girl was roasted with lol

[@shishirleyy]

HAHAHA

[@Nosliw837]

willing to send remaining Silvadene to assist in the surrounding burn areas

[@mpazinambao2938]

Oh snap!😂

[@nachgeben]

CZ just decided he wanted to fight every smaller creator in existence at the same time.

[@Shippo28]

Small creators 😂 keep on meat ridding these asinine theory's

[@unfazed37]

@@Shippo28They aren't actually meat-ridding, they are just joking about it. Learn to read tone through text.

[@flagondragon1854]

​@@unfazed37 critical thinking and reading is severely lacking with the younger folks

[@tashabeck4121]

@@flagondragon1854I think personally while I understand he’s joking some of it comes off like he’s genuinely upset with them more than just joking to an extent, especially when he’s says things like “I hate when creators use subtitles to correct things I like when they actually that it seriously” about a channels that do the same things as him and his evidence for certain things has been purely circumstantial before. That’s just how I see it though if that helps 😁 all discussions and opinions are valid in there own regard

[@flagondragon1854]

@tashabeck4121 the person I replied to comment got deleted. It was somthing really dumb that's why I said they lack things

[@deluxxyfan7tristanwood961]

ngl the fact you got The Theorizer on here is hilarious, dude has made MULTIPLE Mort from Madigascar theories each more unhinged than the last. hes great

[@George_vv]

The Theorizer is pretty much the sun in the solar system of insane children's movies theories and I'm pretty sure he knows it. Nearly all of his videos are just too ridiculous to be for real.

[@redwiltshire1816]

I wouldn’t say too ridiculous because there is evidence that supports him he just does it in the most unhinged way possible

[@ImADeity]

Everything he said is a new commandment in chaos. He terrifies me to no end. Out of every mortal on this planet his madness knows no bounds. He has been born of chaos and has now molded these worlds to his madness and whims. He's a genius

[@gutta-kidd-la412]

Lol I thought he was a schizophrenic for a while. Till I jus understood he was jus obsessed and a outside the box thinker

[@decium1846]

I just assumed it was mostly joke material.

[@xXx___xXx]

but he's so entertaining lol

[@crazybobert5243]

Yes. I immediately clicked on the notification because i 100% agree and finally someone calls them out.

[@RedPlumber]

Same bro lmao

[@BlackDRagin21]

I clicked only bc I have no idea about any of this but bc it sounds crazy.

[@Tw0Dots]

I didnt care much ab Coraline but im here for this vid bashing theories 😂

[@Lipstxckstains]

Same but they’re rlly funny to watch

[@arinleoczko1250]

This needs to be done with every overreaching fandom. Final Boss: Five Nights at Freddy's

[@budnrobots2968]

It all started with The Theorizer, he realized how unrealistic his theories were about halfway through and it became his whole style to OVER THEORIZE about things. It’s brilliant.

[@LittleAmyHe]

My unhinged theory is this video is a love letter made for MatPat’s retirement.

[@CZsWorld]

Had to do it since KZbin blurred my name out on their MatPat tribute video

[@LittleAmyHe]

@@CZsWorld Oh that is so poop of KZbin. But so sweet of you!

[@michikip45]

This title is too wild not to immediately click omg

[@robinkholmes7127]

There are few fandoms with this level of power

[@tashabeck4121]

Then the end comes and you see the comments and say sir what do you have against the theorizer personally 😭😂

[@TotallyNotFeeshHawk]

I love hearing CZ rant about unhinged nonsense like this, it's so fun.

[@nightshadowsstudios]

yup

[@IRLZeni]

Whybes grandma being evil honestly isn’t too insane when you remember what she named him 😂😭

[@painterguy6469]

*COUGH* _The Theorizer_ *COUGH* Edit: Just to clarify, I don't mean this in a negative way

[@FourheadWeapon]

Yeah but the theorizer is obviously joking

[@voryntheriolu2525]

Ok but he is just having fun

[@arran4285]

@@juaquintiscareno I think he lost his mind sometime around Mort being a god

[@juaquintiscareno]

I also don’t say that to jump on you because he is insane and not In only a positive way(most likely a animated goofball)

[@juaquintiscareno]

@@arran4285yeah honestly mort is definitely something but I’m not sure of a god

[@Lady_dromeda]

The only theorists i know of that talk about Coraline is The Theorizer and Abitfrank. One of the most interesting things I’ve learned about the movie itself is that in the opening where the doll is being made, the Beldam is using tools used when preparing bodies in a funeral home (I forget what they’re actually called 😅)

[@Amarianee]

Mortician tools. Haven't seen the film in a while, so maybe more specifically, embalming tools?

[@Lady_dromeda]

@@Amarianee yeah! 😅

[@fullonsociopath]

Yeah, Abitfrank seems abitobsessed. I watched a couple when my daughter was into coraline.

[@TactlessC]

I wouldn't even call Abitfrank a theorist so much as a gothic entertainer who enjoys source comparisons.

[@Lady_dromeda]

@@TactlessC yeah, I didn’t mean to call her a theorist, I should have mentioned her separately as someone who also talks about coraline.

[@ezekielsmith3571]

my coraline theory is that the doll drifting into the window at the opening of the movie is because it somehow fell down the well. It looks like its drifting through water.

[@ezekielsmith3571]

also, ybie says to coraline that its rumored that you would see a sky full of stars if you fell down. That, and the ring of mushrooms I think are subtle hints that the well actually is a portal

[@jibbagribba]

I felt so vindicated when he called out those "Eww I look like a mess but I have makeup and hair on" youtubers with the exaggerated personalities

[@arirenzi-surprenant6915]

I like Coraline theories (some of them have merit) and I like little hidden clues (like the lightning hand) but most of them are freaking unhinged.

[@user-sortaopinionated]

I agree ☝🏼

[@-._.usopp._.-]

The Theorizor mentioned time for a shot 🎉

[@thrashandburn10221]

Are you drinking at every mention? If so, I hope you've got healing factor; even if, the second half of this video would get Wolverine drunk

[@GlaceonFan1997]

Bro's liver is gonna *hate* him

[@Jessidafennecfox]

The Theorizor has wild theories for many things I found him doing Once Upon a Time theories.

[@osirisatot19]

This is wild to me because if these people just asked Neil Gaiman about most of these on Tumblr, he'd probably answer. The Cat can't travel dimensions because of being a fairy, The Cat can travel dimensions because that's just something all cats can do. I have a theory on that first KZbinr, she actually isn't real and its a dead body being controlled by the doll sitting next to her; I have no evidence to back this up but I want to make up random bullshit too. Feels a bit racist to be like "The black cat is related to the black people in the film." Maybe the real Coraline theory was the friends me made along the way.

[@mollygrace3068]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️ YES!! Anyone who reads NG knows that’s just how he writes cats. They can travel between Farie, earth, and other realms. They know shit. And they’re pretty aloof when it comes to humans.

[@YSL8704]

The Chernobyl theory with Bobinsky is actually true, he was a survivor of Chernobyl and even has the award that survivors of it got.

[@pramusetyakanca1552]

How tf does a callback to a literal nuclear disaster in Pripyat hold more ground than these other theories? Like, I thought the Chernobyl one was gonna be the falsest out of all of these

[@YSL8704]

@@pramusetyakanca1552 Because Bobinsky's skin is blue, that's not normal.

[@pramusetyakanca1552]

@@YSL8704... oh yeah, u rite, I dunno how I didn't see that

[@StargazerSkyscraper]

@@YSL8704 Is he supposed to be drinking a shit ton of colloidal silver then? What does blue skin has to do with being a Chernobyl survivor?

[@YSL8704]

@@StargazerSkyscraper Radiation does weird shit to the body is why his skin is blue.

[@melellison6901]

I love The Theorizer's theories so much. He always goes over the top and it's great. Makes me think of Charlie Day and his red thread board lmao

[@alyasfukename3355]

Pepe Silvia

[@drewhalcro6082]

Wow, I never knew the film went this deep... I do love AbitFrank because at least she uses the book as a primary source to back up the film and then says that it COULD be this. My most unhinged theory is that the Beldam has some Pennywise style powers that affects the house and possibly some of the town, that just makes everything a little bit bleak and dull.

[@hopelessromantic3786]

The Theorizer does the same thing. It's not supposed to be considered the creators intention. It's just pointing out plot holes and using other details we know to reach the most unhinged conclusions. It's fun and chaotic. I don't know why it's making people so mad.

[@Lethalport1515]

I follow Abitfrank too and lolled at seeing her small mentions. I enjoy her videos and while yes she's done a lot with Coraline, I wouldn't consider or include her in with the unhinged theorists. Out of all of them, she's the only one I like and am not weirdest out by. The others are...... unsettling 😅

[@AelitaVA]

😂I almost spit my gum out after I heard, “WHERE ARE YOU?”😂🤣🤣

[@arirenzi-surprenant6915]

Freaking finally someone is saying something! Every time I try to bring this up, people come for my neck.

[@justposi]

Simps are just defending their queen dont worry bro its the loosers pack mentality.

[@Jessafallon.x]

That blink 182 joke was the greatest thing that’s ever happened to me. Thank you.

[@p.d.l7023]

You must admire the dedication of those who were touched so deeply by this great film that they are determined to look for things that are not there.

[@justingraves1291]

Personal head canon, the Cat is actually Keith David himself slipping into an alternate reality where he is a talking cat I JUST SAW STRONGBAD!!!!!

[@gabriellemadrid2831]

Keith David ❤

[@casual_villain]

Okay but what if, the Cat is actually Spawn, who shapeshifted into another form to lay low.

[@Number1_radio_flyer_fan]

Wort wort wort

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

Abitfrank is the only Coraline theorist I watch (well, her content isn’t entirely devoted to that. Most of her videos are about folklore and stuff).

[@lovestumacher]

Yes! I love watching her videos too

[@tashabeck4121]

She’s a great creator! Not that I think any of these guys are genuinely bad just having fun lol. I love her fairytale videos!

[@user-sortaopinionated]

Same ❤

[@jeneehaviland5661]

*gasp* Keith David also plays Husk in Hazbin Hotel who is also a black cat which means that the cat was really trying to lure Coraline to Hell! Not really making a theory but I can see one of these theorists running with that eventually.

[@fruitloops2058]

Can't wait for the Hazbin theories that Husk is actually Doctor Facilier after Princess and The Frog. Well, that'd be better than this.

[@onuhrita5009]

Oh my goodness! I didn't know... I love hazbin hotel

[@abbycantrell1369]

​@fruitloops2058 I mean... The Princess and The Frog shows Dr. Facilier getting dragged to Hell AND cats have important spiritual symbolism, lol There's stuff there if you wanted to stretch a bit for it

[@sagaevan9641]

i actually used to watch the fangirl and theorizer's videos on coraline when i was younger, i just really love the story and loved hearing people talk about it even if it was utterly unhinged lol

[@datkajuncollector4114]

So a theorist has issues with other theorists.....

[@atomic747]

But he actually try to make sense.

[@datkajuncollector4114]

@@atomic747 discussing why those theories may be wrong is one thing, but he sounds like he is better than they are. It's KZbin, everyone has their wormholes to fall into lol. Some rather a person that does all their research and pays attention to real details, some rather some attractive person to talk at them for 20 minutes lol

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

​@@datkajuncollector4114there's a difference between "wormholes" and just unhinged making shit up for views

[@TheEvilKingStan]

​@user-op6kt8pg9y this is the point that everyone should be taking from this. It's purposely making false content for views

[@thefiredogcult9523]

I honestly disagree with him ripping on random videos of people he disagrees with about theory's like thay're just having fun making theories about there favourite movie thay're not doing anything wrong it's honestly so pretty and you constantly call them unhinged when what's unhinged is someone ripping on someone else because they disagree over a fictional movie

[@Jose-yy4yo]

nah quit being sensitive lol they are dumb 😂 CZ is funny asf

[@cookieteandblueberry]

Thousands of years later and we still blame the black cats 🙄

[@CZsWorld]

They'll never shake the stigma! Thanks for the support!

[@user-sortaopinionated]

Yes 👏🏼 Not fair to them at all.

[@alexdevi2856]

I always believed The Theorizer is just doing insanely far fetched and weird theories on purpose, they just seem too unreal

[@RandomCritique]

Haha!! I’m definitely UNHINGED for making those videos😂 Can’t say I disagree with your opinions.

[@jinkxx_]

“She is still stuck in the other world!” Can we just allow people to live happy lives😭

[@ann6878]

No apparently

[@fruitloops2058]

It's very nice being told our 11 year old protagonist who won her happy ending is actually doomed. Yippee.

[@Godzillaminusone70]

that's the only one I kind of can see being true

[@2e2i23]

I like unhappy endings but these theories are so dumb 😂

[@On_Nborn]

I disagree with all these unhinged theories (as I should honestly) but the "the ending is not happy at all " theory is the one for which i strongly agree with. Sorry but for me it's true 😂

[@clichedtopic4363]

and no mention of "dont go harass these people, they're just having fun with their look at their favorite movie." wild.

[@frozedlight2229]

That should go without saying maybe he just has more faith in the ppl who watch him then most? Still should have had it but eh

[@theamiablepirateroberts7839]

Right?! This whole video just felt very mean spirited.

[@clichedtopic4363]

@@theamiablepirateroberts7839 Ive stopped watching him because of it.

[@TheEvilKingStan]

People shouldn't harass anyone. But when you say they're just having fun, that's the problem I have. They're making these theories up for views and revenue. That's why they get more nonsensical as they go on. Nothing wrong with coming up with your own ideas and all, but when you go from "cat is black and related to black people in movie" to "cat is bad guy's son" and finally "there are two cats, trust me" that's a cash grab

[@not_zaknefarious]

This is perhaps the longest example of the pot calling the kettle black I have ever seen, and I am here for it in all its ironic crunchiness.

[@3DbyLeo]

This video starts off really mean spirited, attacking someone personally and implying they are schizophrenic? I'm all for take downs of bad theories but you just come off as bullying small creators. I was here for the timeline videos, even if they were filled with "air yeeting", I don't need to stick around if this is what your content is turning into.

[@Jose-yy4yo]

stop being sensitive it's funny asf😂

[@ghosty8193]

Yeh this video just seems so weird to me. Call the insanity out but it just feels so mean-spirited and awkward lol

[@MelaninCosplay]

Didn't even know "Coraline Theorists" was a thing. After watching even just a couple of minutes of CZs video, I'm both intrigued and scared at the same time that people go so deep into this movie lol. Its pretty cool, actually. These Theorists look like they are dead fkn serious with this stuff. Question: Never seen the movie or had the desire to. Is it worth a watch? Edit: I welcome your suggestions and thoughts btw and I dont have a problem with your suggestions and thoughts. Im not judging the movie or anything, nor am I judging the Theorists.

[@legionandsons8763]

😂 yeah I don't get people. Go all crazy about a cartoon movie with all these theories like they really actually care that much ooofff

[@prig1557]

Yes it is. Unless you're susceptible to nightmares.

[@mariannasanfilippo5819]

Yes Coraline is worth the watch.

[@robinkholmes7127]

It's like how there's Sci-fi nrds and Star Wars Nerds, they're their own thing

[@Ang417]

Yes it is!! It's one of my favorite movies

[@justposi]

OH BOY Are we whitnessing the CZ's Roast lol 5 min in and i already spilled my drink

[@b4kedbricks]

I’m loving this mix of silly internet commentary and horror content fr

[@RobotCloud85]

This honestly just feels like you chose a subject to mock and roast people while patting yourself on the shoulder...Major ick. And I came in very excited to hear you discuss it all.

[@lexiisca5069]

I like how the videos that are real world commentary are still framed under a sort of “narrative retelling.”

[@Meowmorales2007]

Well, for The Theorizer that’s sort of normal to his usual crazy theories.

[@RaeNapier64]

Half of the coraline theorists have no idea it was a book, cant be asked to read it or don’t actually follow the author or research him. They just take spooky kids movie and run with it. As a massive Neil Gaiman fan it’s kinda sad, because his work is fucking amazing and genuinely does have a load of twists and theories that Neil himself has played around with, I wish people would actually read the stuff they’re making videos about. Hell coraline even has a sparknotes page! Neil Gaiman has an active tumblr the man’s on there more than me, he interacts with people and answers questions, some about coraline, idk man I don’t love the theories

[@Chadjr2009]

And graphical novel by Neil too.

[@jayhackett7240]

Honestly, Neil's Tumblr responses are one of the few reasons I still visit the site 😂 He will get the most out of pocket questions and take them in stride; something I wish more authors could do really ^^"

[@CZsWorld]

Imagine needing Sparknotes for a 60 page book

[@RaeNapier64]

@@CZsWorld you’d be surprised, I’ve seen spark notes pages for 5 line poems before

[@VickyScreams]

I really like your content usually, Zack. Making a video mocking other creators, especially much smaller channels, feels really mean-spirited though. You're better than that.

[@smugfortune9977]

Are you fr the people who make said theories on this movie are unhinged

[@VickyScreams]

@@smugfortune9977 Nope. I have no strong feelings about Coraline either way. I've seen it and it was okay. This video just comes across as unnecessarily mean.

[@smugfortune9977]

@@VickyScreams no it doesn't

[@castielnygma]

Ive always thought that the other mother as a pennywise type thing feeding of children and we'll never truly understand what they are

[@micklar2000]

Kinda funny you made this because it was your Coraline videos that introduced me to your channel! It certainly opened me up to all your horror videos

[@theblackunicorn261]

In defence of The Theorizer, batshit insane theories is kinda his whole thing.

[@mandywilliamson1787]

I love theorizer. He’s just having fun

[@Ghostvine18]

Theory: The Beldam is actually an escaped nightmare, that Dream isn’t aware of. Think about it

[@davemccage7918]

Don’t think about it.

[@topazpagoda]

It does feel like Coraline could be set in the Sandman setting in some ways, but I can't imagine Gaiman wanting to scare kids with the idea of Coraline running into the Corinthian or Azazel or Desire. I kinda love the idea that Coraline grows up to be a Constantine type figure though, who could take on the Sandman universe.

[@Ghostvine18]

@@topazpagoda it would be pretty dope to see Coraline join the Justice League

[@StrawberrySauce64]

As someone with insomnia. If you insomnia isn’t crazy bad, you will get tired without days of sleep. The scene where Coraline can’t sleep, is because of the terrifying situation she’s in. If you were kidnapped and your parents were taken, would you just sleep the second your head hits the pillow.

[@cheyennewhite7946]

i have insomnia as a symptom of mania coming from my bipolar disorder so i can second that you DO feel at least physically tired without days of sleep, like you can tell your body hasn’t gotten rest in a way that’s hard to explain.

[@vibeanddie8926]

Ok but- the theorizer is actually a good channel, their wizard of Oz video has me watching that movie differently. They lean into the insanity of film theorizing because it can be a little.. insane.

[@donutdog1937]

I think this is a bit harsh

[@Moomoo_Mage]

Lol why does he dislike her so much

[@Bluev3nus]

Fr seemed almost misogynistic

[@karakreativevlog]

The only Coraline theorist I follow is abitfrank. She is something of an expert on old fairy tales, which are very gruesome if anyone is interested, so I trust her judgement more than others since the author is busy lol. But I still thought she might've gone too far when she claimed the fog surrounding the pink palace might actually be trying to help the Beldam. Instead of, you know, being used for atmosphere in a freaky movie.

[@Werewolfoverlord12]

I remember that one. I thought it was more because of the timing and the entrances/exits the cat uses to get into and out of the other world?

[@screamingtongue]

Thank you for the "your name is watered down" reference. Made my day.

[@CZsWorld]

As long as at least one person got it!

[@weebjesus6077]

Love that when CZ wants to he just goes in on people full force.

[@KardboardKenny]

1:00min in and i can already tell this is gonna be wild. so the first chick has never met a real, live Cat? i mean, they are better than you and they know that they are better than you and they know that you know that they know that they are better than you.

[@jaymethomas5170]

90% of the words you said started with a T

[@tayloranderson7547]

For real life.

[@gabriellemadrid2831]

This is correct.

[@dr.pepperbiggestfan]

cats can also teleport, this is a known fact of life. i’ll see my cat upstairs and then he’ll be downstairs without me seeing him come down. that’s just how cats are, they’re magical little freaks

[@Lady_Katherine]

This was one of the funniest videos I've seen on KZbin in a while. You are so good at roasting

[@victormatiasrosales4500]

You sound so salty 🧂

[@XeroFailGames]

My man woke up...chose violence and thought...yea im ending some youtube careers today lol

[@magnawaves]

Uhh...so you're a coraline theorist theorist here, and you have your OWN coraline theories about the cat, and coming up with theories too... UHH CZ? IS CZ A FAERIE TOO?!

[@MylingCyrus]

Your energy this video is hilarious 😭

[@zombiemethod7079]

ive been waiting for another coraline theory for ages. thanks bro

[@kimberlys8422]

I just finished reading "The Outsider" by Stephen King which involved a mythological creature called "El Cuco" and there was shape shifting and feeding off of misery and sadness.

[@Star.Xupidd]

Lol thought you were talking about The Outsiders

[@Kendall-kk2nd]

@@Star.Xupiddsame 😅

[@fionasmith6069]

first girl's hair is obviously naturally curly. man moment

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

She clearly took the time to style her hair

[@frisk7382]

@@user-op6kt8pg9yhave you never seen naturally curly hair? Man comment.

[@frisk7382]

@@user-op6kt8pg9y man's never seen real curly hair. Man comment

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

@@frisk7382 I literally have curly hair myself

[@frisk7382]

@user-op6kt8pg9y well congratulations? There are different types of curly hair 🫢

[@darkendheart1389]

Most of these aren’t even legit “theories.” They’re just people trying to put their two cents into something we already know almost everything about.

[@redwiltshire1816]

My boy theorizer made it into the video such an underrated channel

[@madramblingsofanauthor850]

ABitFrank is actually an excellent theorist. She makes them enjoyable to listen to, almost like listening to a bedtime story. I don't find her theories too outlandish and actually within the bounds of the story while also bringing in other lore elements that lend their influence to the story. It's fun, and I learn new things about some lore I haven't before.

[@Werewolfoverlord12]

This. A bit disappointed he put her in his "unhinged theorists" video...

[@patax144]

I have honestly only seen The Theorizer, love his crazy ramblings and the Coraline theories is how I found him, and he has always been obssesed with making the innocent or unremarkable characters the villain, recently he has found better examples, and also when he was making the Coraline theories he had this animated series of sorts going on oh his 2nd or third channel which was absolutley insane, it was made in stick figures but it was clearly deranged, and abitfrank who has great fairytale videos, everyone else I am unfamiliar with.

[@gonebattygoth]

Tbh the theorizer gets way more intense. Ever heard of his Madagascar Mort theory?

[@balloonbikachu7333]

"The theorizer is crazy" that is an understatement of the century because he was able to make a series of videos about how mortal the lemur from Madagascar is some sort of god

[@scary3am958]

his videos make me laugh

[@annamariaprantzou8486]

I once googled who is the dead fairy in Coraline and I found a part of tmblr where a fan was asking Neil Gaiman whether that dead fairy was the Beldam 's mother. He said that the only time that fairy is mentioned is on chapter 12. In this chapter, Coraline has escaped and freed her parents and the ghost children, whom she dreams of later that night. One of the girls is described to have butterfly like wings. So, one would say that she is the fairy of the story and not the Beldam, a conclusion that can open the door to so many more theories. What I don 't understand is how this tip from Gaiman has managed to slip from practically everyone.

[@melanieanderson6103]

These shouldn't be referred to as theories at all. They are just unsupported headcannons.

[@maxpower7258]

That’s correct, I am very much unhinged. I have and will study the most tiniest detail and hyper focus on that for months at a time looking for a pattern.

[@theintelligentzombie9949]

The theorizer is also known to be kinda a crazy cooky dude with his theories lol, i love watching his videos

[@frisk7382]

Okay guy who makes “entire history’s” of horror characters then just describes what happens in the movie scene by scene

[@potatoejauregui]

I know Coraline theorists are… a lot, but the vibe of this video seems off and a bit more judgemental. Lots of needless personal insults thrown around. I prefer just the analytical videos.

[@xmattperkins]

Be thankful they're doing movie conspiracy theories rather than political conspiracy theories.

[@faithruckdeschel1294]

Oh please don't give them any of those ideas......and we thought the "Coraline Theorists" were out of control? All u have to do is say those 2 words "Trump" or "Biden" and folks go to losing their minds! I have this one news app, and EVERY article that has nothing to do with politics, somehow in some way, ppl will find a way to blame either old dude for something? I kid u not, one article was about this lady wanting her dog's toenails painted blue by her groomer......"These Biden lovers have lost their minds!" So I left a comment saying "Really? Maybe her favorite color is blue, or maybe because the doggie's(she was such a cute pup too)outfit IS blue?"

[@sirdanny545]

I can confirm I watched the whole series during lockdown (aged 11) and I have had a fear of Caroline ever since. Thanks for helping me confront my fear

[@MoFace]

And now I want to watch Coraline again. I think there's a fine line between theorizing and telling your own story. I sometimes fall into the latter category myself, but its all in good fun, just loving spooky media. 🖤🖤🖤

[@brettfrost6828]

In the insomnia theory she was talking about, her face looks like she doesn’t even know what she’s talking about

[@nailsarelife]

First, I attempted to watch The Theorizer's theories. I lost brain cells rather quickly and had to escape. I could feel my brain smoothing out.

[@Thetablepower]

Thanks for keeping me company during my drive to work , I appreciate your work and content

[@Lipstxckstains]

Honestly I don’t rlly think anyone takes the theories too seriously 😂 it’s just fun to listen to ppl ranting about a topic they like

[@YnavesWarrior]

yesss CZsWorld roasting theorists made my day You slay!

[@dogmanthehero1117]

I totally agree with what you say about dream theory. I roll my eyes anytime I see a theory like that.

[@g.ctheweebbecomefat]

These people are just trying to have fun and you was kind of mean about it, it's not important so why was you so unkind about it? It's not the end of the world, it's just a story :(

[@jamaalpete9238]

The last 2 minutes actually blew my mind, way to end it yo 😂👏🏼

[@vlover15OO]

I love how Cz saw some of these theories and was like "you know what? Time to talk some shit."