I have to say that Corey is a monster in knowledge of the game. I have always liked his style and kudos to you for paying attention and learning something that most people wouldn't pay attention to, thanks for sharing.
@MrElPoderozo13 жыл бұрын
@Mike Tiger Well, good for you! I'm glad that you knew it. I didn't and that's ok with me. I learn as I go and im cool with that.
@alev42873 жыл бұрын
Guy shouldn’t be allowed to rack like this, play with a cue holder, use a bridge on a break, or use a stupid glove, get real!
@MrElPoderozo13 жыл бұрын
@@alev4287 Is he breaking any rules? No, he is not. So why are you hating?
@alev42873 жыл бұрын
@@MrElPoderozo1 hate is a strong word, why are you assuming? it's my opinion he should play without the use of technology in this game, do you see efren play like that? no you don't, it's because he plays how the game should be played, with just a cue stick and your hands, and if you can't reach it, then use the bridge. i'm a romantic and i find his way of playing unnecessary
@MrElPoderozo13 жыл бұрын
@@alev4287 He is not breaking any rules and that is his style of playing. You being a romantic of the game allowing this feelings to get to you is not a good thing because if you ever play against someone who has a different style of playing and it bothers you, you most likely will lose the game and that's not good. The game of pool has evolved through the years from using better sticks, wearing a glove, better cloth fot the table etc..... you just so happen to not like Corey style of playing and it bothers you that he is that good, that's my personal opinion, ok. Corey has spent a lot of time practicing and studying how can he and his game get better. So in my opinion as long as he is not breaking ANY rules why not? Who knows! Maybe if you start using his technique you'll be a better player. Sorry if I hurt your feelings but you did sound like a hater to me, that's why I used the word hating, ok.
@LilChrisPoolPlayer4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! and congrats on 2K+ subscribers!!!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Lil' Chris Thank you! 🙏
@johan7224 жыл бұрын
3.2 Eight Ball Rack The fifteen object balls are racked as tightly as possible in a triangle, with the apex ball on the foot spot and the eight ball as the first ball that is directly below the apex ball. One from each group of seven will be on the two lower corners of the triangle. The other balls are placed in the triangle without purposeful or intentional pattern.
@XHeadhunter663 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Cool that it works and he found this, but it is against the rules. Of course you can argue that this happened without intentionally putting this pattern, but when it happens multiple times you "know" it is intentionally.
@motorpsychodelic3 жыл бұрын
In Germany we have that "unwritten" rule that the loser of the previous game will place the balls for the winner to break. So you cant use your pattern unless you insist on placing them yourself, which will make your opponent suspecting you to use a pattern.
@GeneralTHC3 жыл бұрын
@@motorpsychodelic This was a "rack your own" 8-ball tournament.
@robertkerr229 Жыл бұрын
Good to know. So the remaining useful purpose of the break is to create that distribution, cue ball final resting zone, and 8-ball action towards the side.
@astonishedhoplite25104 ай бұрын
English pool we use a J set up. We use red and yellow balls and.the black and you make a j out of the yellow balls.
@vishybreh Жыл бұрын
This just made me like Corey even more. The time and thinking it takes to get that level of manipulation, it’s a stroke of genius
@danielpincus2214 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheBilliardCorner4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support!
@allgood67603 жыл бұрын
Awesome.. This is like a magician taking a rabbit out of a hat and leaving the audience in awe... Next level. Thanks from NZ 👍🇳🇿
@Evo4STi074 жыл бұрын
Crazy stuff! Never knew you can rack specific balls like that in 8 ball. 🤔😮
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Try it out :)
@jaroslavcech2254 жыл бұрын
I always thought it must be random order, so when he's in a match does he really do this kind of pattern racking? I have mixed feelings about this, my brain says do it if it really is allowed, however my heart says it's just bad etiquette :D
@clintbeastwood61493 жыл бұрын
No pattern racking is frowned upon some tournaments overlook it but a lot of them it’s not legal and if I seen someone pattern racking at a bar I wouldn’t even play with them trying to pull cheap tricks
@JH-fk8ow3 жыл бұрын
you cant according to rules, pattern racking is prohibited in comps but when you are hall of famer people rarely question you
@bobbyjojo3 жыл бұрын
@@clintbeastwood6149 And inhale!
@stephenfranco9643 жыл бұрын
I have been 2nd ball breaking for about 3 years. And it definitely works for me. Always puts the 8 ball towards that pocket.
@richarddombakly4134 жыл бұрын
You got me,very unique video dieing to try it tomorrow ,I just subscribed,well done
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard
@donmiller68393 жыл бұрын
Corey was a run out player at the age of 14. It was predicted then by several pros that he would be a champion player. Salute Corey all those practice sessions paid off !
@christiankimmel18064 жыл бұрын
The thing about Corey's rack is that it's called pattern racking and isn't legal in a lot of leagues.
@mike26874 жыл бұрын
thanks, that was the first thing I was thinking... my second thought was whether I would even want to do this--seems a bit unethical. Still, I love the video for the education of it--and I know to lookout for it.
@heginschristianstrong77073 жыл бұрын
Use it playing for money.
@rayellis87683 жыл бұрын
@@heginschristianstrong7707 theres no way i would let someone rack balls like that when playing formoney and if you do you deserve to lose said money
@heginschristianstrong77073 жыл бұрын
@@rayellis8768 agree. But lots of folks wouldn't notice.
@turdbird80503 жыл бұрын
@@heginschristianstrong7707 you will probably get hurt by doing that
@miltonturner29773 жыл бұрын
I've been using that break technique but for a different purpose. If you play this back and notice, the 8 ball almost always comes out and goes toward the opposite (of hit) side pocket. I have had the 8 Ball on the Break wins numerous years...one year I had 7.
@RichardsWorld2 жыл бұрын
This is why I used to do that. I haven't played much in the last 10 years though. You gets lots of 8 ball action with this break. Lately I just got try to stop the cueball in the middle of the table. I'll try this break again the next time I play.
@relaxingrainandnaturewiths7650 Жыл бұрын
You read my mind
@mikewest712 Жыл бұрын
You spot it on the foot spot if it's potted on the break correct?
@RichardsWorld Жыл бұрын
@@mikewest712 some tournaments have different rules. The most common rule is you win the game if you make the 8-ball on the break and don't scratch or jump the cue ball off of the table. A lot of 8-ball would be played on coin operated tables and you can't spot a ball that has already sank. I like to call them bar rules, where the rules are quite different than the leagues or tournaments.
@robertjones1730 Жыл бұрын
I do this break in the APA and one time in a race to 5, 4 of my wins were an 8 on the break. I am tied for the state record for most 8 on the break in one match
@SwtTrisha83 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Pensacola, Fl. Sure am glad I found your channel. You have a way of explaining like no one else and make it very easy to understand and follow. Great tips- thank you so much.
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@DavePlaysPool4 жыл бұрын
Freaking awesome man! Been looking forward to this vid for a while so really appreciate you going to all the effort to do it! Will try this 8ball break soon and maybe even post a vid reply :)
@SEMO_dad2 жыл бұрын
He also has a killer end rail, head ball break for 8 ball. I'd love to see you break that one down as it lends itself to a more open layout (consistently) even when mis-hit.
@TheBilliardCorner2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll watch some Corey end rail breaks and analyze it and do a video soon
@stefan32254 жыл бұрын
I’ve never watched Corey play 8 ball and been impressed by his break. Leaves a lot more clusters than other square hit breaks. Maybe I haven’t watched since he developed this technique....
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen, Refs get called on Corey pretty quick now a days :)
@c-ball4 жыл бұрын
awesome video. the info, as well as very professionally done. i will watch any of your videos from now on.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks C-Ball
@Woodworking-Pastor9 ай бұрын
I agree that Cory is a master at figuring out the break. Unfortunately this type of pattern racking is against the rules in most tournaments now because of Cory’s breaking. He changed the rules about soft break in 9-ball, pattern racking has been completely frowned upon for 50 years and has recently had rule changes to make it illegal in most tournaments and leagues are starting to follow suit. It won’t be long before they change the rules on 10-ball soft break is my guess. I hold myself to a high standard of ethics and would never pattern rack the balls. I have always paid attention to how my opponents rack to prevent them from pattern racking as well. Great videos explaining Cory’s breaks.
@gclh224 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Been looking for a good 8ball break. Thank you and Corey!!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting the channel
@stehv2393 жыл бұрын
Good info, but why is there a Craftsman toolbox on your fireplace mantle?
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
My old toolbox I retired to hold my pool accessories. It's actually a blue point tool box :)
@DavidEvans_dle4 жыл бұрын
The way he jackets the break, is so special, it's like Christmas morning! All the balls are layed orderly, like presents on the floor. lol
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Watch my Corey Deuel 10 ball break video :) Blew my mind the first time I saw it.
@slanjbo3 жыл бұрын
I may be mistaken, and the commentator did say as long as the corner balls are alternating in the rack, but wasn’t there some sort of tournament controversy involving Corry based on how the other 12 balls (minus the 8) were being racked to give an unfair advantage? Also I am a huge Corey fan, just asking for curiosity, keep up the great work on your channel!
@MARKBBOICE4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. I see you upgraded your table from the first video I watched
@pjs777s.83 жыл бұрын
So good!! Thank you very much for that in depth breakdown !🙏🏼💪🏼
@ahmadd68343 жыл бұрын
been watching some of your other videos, great content btw! but u said in the deuel's secret 9 ball break that pad racking is illegal, isnt that the case for 8 ball as well?
@ral8193 жыл бұрын
Definitely tough to do , consistently, with a triangle... Nice video, I've been working on this break.
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up! With a triangle it takes a lot of practice and patience.
@nicholaswilliams84703 жыл бұрын
This video was a game changer for me. Thanks for sharing 👍
@txproudproudamerican94742 жыл бұрын
I've seen this rack setup before and if you do it at the pool hall where I play they will through you out
@TheBilliardCorner Жыл бұрын
For sure, many don't even know what's happening though
@jimlee4205 ай бұрын
Doubt it
@HereAfterBilliards4 жыл бұрын
I've been using this break since the start of the year and I'm leading the league in Eros 😂
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@guylaroche3434 жыл бұрын
what kind of break is this again?
@muzhman19777 ай бұрын
He used this break in the 2014 USBTC but he switched his rack pattern in the 2016 USBTC. I was just curious as to why he would switch his rack if it was working so good for him in the 2014 tournament
@ericsalles14244 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit that was awesome. Great analysis/breakdown. LIKED & SUBSCRIBED
@nyquil07na383 жыл бұрын
Interesting gonna try this tonight. Good info 👍
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@mkyhou11604 жыл бұрын
I’ve switched to second ball break recently, I am pocketing balls more consistently. A big head ball ball break is perfect if you have a great table with good rails, but if you are playing on crappy bar boxes this is the way to go. I’ll give this pattern a go, not sure if it’s cheating or not, I guess not.
@justfrosty39654 жыл бұрын
Dammit you guys discovered my rack 😂
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
hehe
@justfrosty39654 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner This rack is great even for beginners as long as they can pocket a single solid afterwards, it gives their opponent a lot of work to run out.
@MrMountainJohn2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the video. Is your table 7 feet?
@TheBilliardCorner2 жыл бұрын
No problem, yes 7ft
@danvanhorne2132 жыл бұрын
I switched to the second ball break many years ago and believe it is superior. I hit it as full as I can just missing the head ball. While side-low is recommended to bring whitey to the center the deflection factor makes it harder to get a full hit so I just use low. And yes the 8 goes in the opposite side often and even in the top corner. And both corner balls often go in.
@TheBilliardCorner2 жыл бұрын
I've been using back hand english to negate any deflection. Hits right on almost every time if my stroke is good.
@georgea9959 Жыл бұрын
Hi - could you show us ehat you mean by 'back hand english'? I have trouble visualizing it!
@chili0154 жыл бұрын
The issue with the 2nd ball break is it usually creates more clusters on tables larger than a bar box. So many players in my league do the 2nd ball break because it gets 8-ball movement (in other words, they want to make 8-on-the-breaks, even though that's rare and requires some fortune... and that's only for leagues that allow wins when you make the 8). If you're playing on a standard league table, I still believe it's better to break the head-ball to get a more traditional and open spread. There are more runout possibilities there.
@tambofunhouse4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Liked and subscribed. Can't wait to try it out.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Tambo :)
@crazylarryjr3 жыл бұрын
That is very similar to what i call the Mizerak break. The differences, is it's a standard 8 ball rack, but he'd break from the end dot (second side dot, but the end dot closest to pocket) not all the way to the bank. He'd also go with lower English with the spin corresponding to the side he'd be breaking from
@micha-42 Жыл бұрын
Can't find resources on the Miz break, do you have a video to suggest?
@crazylarryjr Жыл бұрын
@@micha-42 I do not know if it's called the Mizerak break, I saw it on a rented video of Mizerak doing trick shots along with a few lessons along the way. I used it and called it the Miz break at my local pool hall, it worked surprisingly well. Got many an 8 ball out of that break, when rules allowed that as a win condition. BTW Mizerak never bothered with the racking order, I do not think that was discovered till about what 5 years ago. The vid I saw was in the 1990's and it was him showing how to improve pocketing at least 1 ball in the break and even possibly the 8 ball. He even hit the second ball just like here
@SRKanai13 жыл бұрын
What is the music you're using at the credits of the video? It's awesome.
@robertkerr229 Жыл бұрын
Immediately sold on this break. You said bordering on illegal? In what leagues?
@klaha814 жыл бұрын
The right sided ball on the 2nd row of the rack always gets tied up in your demonstration (with the exception of 1 rack where it tracks to the front of the side pocket).
@chrisolson32403 жыл бұрын
Is the rack slightly tilted to make the corner ball? Otherwise every one pocket player will use this break.
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
no tilt
@pittsteeler69104 жыл бұрын
is it best to use your playing cue or break cue?
@punanie053 жыл бұрын
I dont think one necessarily needs a dedicated break cue for this break or any second ball break for that matter as one of the perks of the second ball break is you generally do not have to use much power in order to get a good break/spread. That being said i still have a hard time using my shooter to break with even if im not hitting it too hard, but in reality i think thats just mire a mental thing than anything. That being said you will want to use a cue with a tip that you can still get some draw out of the cue ball with during the break.
@TrillionTalents7774 жыл бұрын
Man now I need to try this!! Now long did it take you to memorize it? Actually you should make a video about how you memorize it so that you can rack it naturally and quickly
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Try it :) Took me about 15 mins or so. I just racked it over and over until I could remember the pattern.
@TrillionTalents7774 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner so for the English, is it a tip to the left ? And does it have to be center left or can it top left or bottom left? Or any other variation of left ? Trying to figure out how much left to use. And is it a big idea if you don’t use left and just use center or just draw ?
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
@@TrillionTalents777 In the video, I mention its "bottom left hand English" with a visual of a cue ball @4:41 of how much English I'm using and where I'm striking the cue ball. . The amount of spin will depend on table conditions and equipment. I've personally found the most success with bottom left hand English as the left spin kicks the cue ball back near center of the table. I recommend you experiment what works best for you until you can achieve what I did in the video.
@TrillionTalents7774 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner yeah I saw that but it looked like just one tip left of center. It didn’t look like bottom left so that’s why I was confused. What about power? How would you describe the power needed for this ? I’m sure there’s a sweet spot between hitting it too soft and hitting it too hard.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
@@TrillionTalents777 Again it varies with table conditions. I was using medium power. Best to practice it on a table.
@ito27914 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! Thank you for teaching me something new!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
No problem
@kenlukasik52574 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Im going to try it.
@benjaminturk80303 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Note: The rack was incorrect at 5:58.
@PaytonandMommytime4 жыл бұрын
So cool...I love that mad scientist reference..lol🎉💃💃💃
@davidberan4703 жыл бұрын
Subbed love the way you breakdown the breaks ty
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
Thank you David
@davidberan4703 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner you very welcome I've had the pleasure of meeting Roberto Gomez Jeremey Jones and Rolando Garcia in Houston they are all class acts
@HorseRaceHandicrapper Жыл бұрын
When I saw the 8 ball go in twice, I thought it was cool, but then I re-watched it and saw it was a repeat. The first and third rack, where you make the corner ball and the 8 ball finishes near the side, are also repeats.
@anthonyp4617 Жыл бұрын
The 8 went in two or three times which tells me that he is leaving a gap on the side of rack so the 8 can get out easier but he isnt saying that he is leaving a gap. Are you leaving a gap? If so, please explain the method. Thanks!
@TheBilliardCorner Жыл бұрын
I didn’t leave gaps. If you are familiar with the table and are breaking consistent the layout will be close to the same every time (8 going in the side as well). It’s when you aren’t consistent is when you get randomization of layouts (not racking properly, hitting the rack in different spots , different power, etc). I know pros will leave gaps or tilt the rack intentionally for unfair advantages…
@PastorPeewee203 жыл бұрын
Interesting I've always thought the rack must be solid stripes solid and so forth..ty
@WpnsCo2013OEF3 жыл бұрын
I almost feel bad. My league does instant win plus pay bonuses for pocketing the 8 on break and because of this video, even though we don't allow open rack or the player to choose organization and whatever I can still use it for the 8 ball movment! Which seems pretty high percentage compared to traditional break methods of hitting the lead ball. I'm thinking my end of season pay out is gonna be a little sweeter now 🤣
@HongcouverBilliards4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Though I will not use pattern tracking. Is good to learn about different breaking and racking system! Keep it up, nice content there!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This cut break works great even when not pattern racking!
@tedcontreras97294 жыл бұрын
加拿大香港仔HongcouverBilliards why wouldn’t you use this smh!!
@RubSomefastOnIt3 жыл бұрын
and thus, an EXACT racking patteren needs to be put in the rules of each game... the "hardest" and "fairest" patteren they can come up with... needs to be a precise pattern everyone has to rack to in the rules, and preferably ref racks... always played alternating solid/stripe except the corners for most tournaments i played.
@snerbsnerb24543 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is exactly it. Allowing players to fix the rack with 3 spots in front and all the stripes in the middle is completely nuts. Even in a casual pub game it should never be allowed, same as all forms of cheating
@fire91324 жыл бұрын
Great video and analysis.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support @Dat H!
@donparrish96594 жыл бұрын
Just had to Wachula that a few times, thanks for video, will give it a try.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@2buxaslice3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I have a lot of questions about this. First, when did the 7 and 15 balls become light blue? Is this standard now or just a preference with the balls that you are using? Second, isn't it illegal to rack that way? I used to play in a lot of tournaments and leagues where the rules for racking were, 1st ball always had to be solid but didn't have to be the number 1 ball, then the outside balls had to alternate starting with the 1st ball solid, then stripe, then solid all the way around with the 8 in the middle. I used to break in a way that gave me a good chance to make the 8 on a break as this is a win in the leagues and tournaments that I played in. I would break in a similar way to this except from the right side of the table with low left english and try to hit the 2nd ball almost straight on. This caused the cue ball to carom off of the side rail, the back rail and then hit the 8 towards the side pocket on the left side of the table. It worked pretty often and won me a lot of games. Keep up the good work.
@headholio3 жыл бұрын
The colors of the balls (I think) have changed to allow better visibility for televised games. Sometimes these pool ball sets are called TV sets (google Aramith TV set). The standard colors are sometimes difficult to distinguish on a TV screen as they are too dark, with a purple 4, maroon 7, dark green 6 etc. The changes are usually to make the 4 and 12 pink instead of purple, the 6 and 14 a bright lime green or light gray, the 7 and 15 sky blue, etc. Usually these "TV" sets won't change all the dark colors but just one or 2. My Dynasphere silver set has gray 6/14 and pink 4/12 with the others being standard. The Dynasphere platinum uses gray 6/14 and sky blue 7/15, while the Aramith TV set chooses a pink 4/12 and a rusty brown 7/15. I personally like the lighter, brighter colors.
@raygrinders39184 жыл бұрын
I've tried this a few times, but so far I can never get the corner ball to pocket. On my 8' table, the line from the center of the "fourth" ball (third row, first ball) going through the center of the "fifteenth" ball (fifth row, fifth ball) doesn't continue to the corner pocket. Isn't this a necessary set-up ingredient? When using the same size balls on tables of differing dimensions, the bigger the table the farther the rack sets from the short rail, etc., changing the resulting "pointing" destination of the corner ball. And the examples of Corey's breaks were always on 9-footers, right? If you have time and theories, it would be fitting if you could advise of a pattern rack for when the rules state that the opponent racks. If we're going to entertain questionable racking procedures, it seems that rotating the rack just a bit would keep the breaker from sinking those corner balls. Also, don't forget that potting an 8-ball on the break would probably be a bad thing when the rules do not make it an automatic win because the spotted 8-ball would be right back in the cluster!
@timberstock39034 жыл бұрын
Those Corey Deuel break examples were all from his match against Stan Tourangeau in the 2014 US Bar Table Championships, which is played on 7' tables. That match is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmTHq2Nnnd-WgKM
@robdetuinman22 жыл бұрын
After potting the black ball, it would still be your turn when it comes back on table
@raygrinders39182 жыл бұрын
@@robdetuinman2 I realize that, but you'd be continuing your turn at the table with the black ball moved at least 2 feet away from the pocket it fell into and back amidst balls that, on average, hinder it from being easily pocketed again.
@robdetuinman22 жыл бұрын
2 feet isn't that far is it? I would have to pot my balls first so I can play position on the 8ball. Another thing is if the 8ball comes back and it's the only ball potted I can choose stripes or solids.
@raygrinders39182 жыл бұрын
@@robdetuinman2 I don't understand what you are defending.
@CTSCharlie4 жыл бұрын
Watch. Wpa gonna come out with another rule for racking and breaking in 8 ball. Just like the 3 point break in 9 ball for Corey's soft break. What a genius.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
3 point break rule ruins 9-ball for me. Corey definitely is creative and pushes the limits of pool. He recently starting breaking with the rack!
@raygrinders39184 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner "Breaking with the rack!"? Don't know what 3-point is either, but I don't play 9-ball.
@richarddombakly4134 жыл бұрын
You know something, I think your right, that's why If I find an edge I'll keep it a secret, Let them do the work themselves everybody wants to have it handed to them,CHUMPS,they will NEVER get any good it takes years, It is the MOST difficult game ever to play well the better you get the harder it get & the more you know the more you have to learn, It NEVER ends
@mr.lootybutthole4 жыл бұрын
it is a wpa rule since decades. pattern racking is forbidden.
@nicholasheiser11974 жыл бұрын
Can this be done shooting from right side? Would it be low right then?
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Yes it can be done from right side but the pattern on the rack would have to be changed. Low right would be correct.
@larrybrockway32784 жыл бұрын
Great videos, thanks for the break tips!!!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
You bet! Thanks for the support Larry.
@evanburke54602 жыл бұрын
What is the best English to use to put the 8 ball in side pocket?
@idlefritz3 жыл бұрын
wonder what kind of reaction are folks getting from their local joint when they try this break
@edwardtylervillanueva86662 жыл бұрын
Damn man your cue ball lookin clean
@TheBilliardCorner Жыл бұрын
Good to have clean balls, thanks for watching
@razorv82983 жыл бұрын
The way we play the rules at my house, 8 ball in on the break wins the game Q ball goes in or off the table on the break, you lose the game This looks like a good way to put the 8 ball in quite often
@darthghitza80373 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of separating the stripes from the solids?
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
Easy run outs
@godisn0where3 жыл бұрын
Why are pros allowed to not do alternating solid stripe? I apparently have handicapped myself for years.
@ericduran84554 жыл бұрын
Great video
@unclequack54453 жыл бұрын
So pattern racking is allowed in pro matches?
@shawnr7713 жыл бұрын
This style of breaking has been around for a very long time. If you are playing against somebody else and they rack. Look at the rack and see if it is loose in anyway. There might be a gap in the back corners. Especially with bar racks. Shoot from the opposite side of the looseness. This almost always guarantees the corner ball goes in. Second ball breaking also leads to a lot of potential scratches if the English and the strike are not just right. There is also a high probability of making the 8 on the break. Bar room rules usually that is an automatic win, unless of course you scratch at the same time. Be aware in bar tournaments that some people know how to mis align the head ball just a little bit in the rack that will cause more scratching on this style of break. They know what you are going for and are sabotaging your effort.
@thomasdoyle384 жыл бұрын
thought there had to be stripe solid stripe then trade of last corner balls to make separate? hmm
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@SRKanai14 жыл бұрын
This is super cool! I gotta ask for some help though. I've tried this several times and it really only seems to work on nicer tables, like the ones I typically play on in my league games. Typical bar room tables not so much for me. Obviously Corey as well as the gentleman in this tutorial are playing on nicer tables than that, but I gotta know... Should this work on even a bar room table? Does it only tend to work on nice tables? Am I just not smashing the break hard enough? (rarely the case for me but who knows.)
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
No, this break works on most tables. Make sure to follow ALL the key principles or else it won't work as consistently. Your power/speed will depend on how old the cloth is. Vary your speed until you achieve the results you want.
@franks2910 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: if you want a perfect rack use the regular rack. It should be clean otherwise the balls may stick to it when you release it. Make sure the balls are tight with no spaces. Tap the table with your fingers and then take the rack off making sure you nudge it up so it comes off the point ball then lift it off completely. This works perfectly every time.
@johan7224 жыл бұрын
World Pool-Billiards Association (March 15, 2016). "Pool Billiards - The Rules of Play"
@chipjoke6033 жыл бұрын
table looks quite small, does it work on 9ft too?
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
works on 9ft
@burtgordon47963 жыл бұрын
Is there a rule stating the head ball must be hit first? I thought it was a scratch if you didn’t hit the one ball first.
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
no such rule
@AlexandreMachado03 жыл бұрын
What happens to the 8 ball if you pot it on the break? It happened twice in your demo… Wouldn't it be re-spotted in a place that would be difficult to finish the rack?
@frostymugger953 жыл бұрын
You win on an 8 ball break in most every case I've experienced.
@ronaldfulton11753 жыл бұрын
On coin operated tables you can access any pocketed balls except the cue ball. Other tables I guess they play different rules. Safest is to inquire before the break and everyone agree to rules. NEVER make bets, best way to avoid bar room brawls....some folks take things too serious...for me it's all about fun and learning...otherwise I walk away.
@BikerDash3 жыл бұрын
Since we don't do the "rack-your-own-rack" thing in the APA, the pattern doesn't help me any. But the exact placement of the cueball, exact spot to hit on the ball, and exact spot on the rack to aim for WILL help me I believe.
@DaCake23 жыл бұрын
This is probably a dumb question to a pro, but how is he allowed to rack his own break? Is that how they do it in professional tournaments? Also got confused cause I seen people commenting that it’s ideal to pattern rack if you gamble, but I’ve always played loser racks and the winner breaks. Never the same person racking and breaking. Can you please explain why?
@JeffMartin843 жыл бұрын
Most leagues and tournaments are rack your own. It stops opponents from intentionally screwing the rack up. If you're gambling and letting your opponent rack for you you're doing it wrong.
@DaCake23 жыл бұрын
@@JeffMartin84 I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I might need to change my house rules haha. I always rack the same exact way for my opponents so we get a good break, but every time I let someone else rack it goes to hell. Bought a magic rack hoping that helps matters.
@IcedDragon4202 жыл бұрын
Odd question, is it possible to scale this down on a mini pool table lol?
@mattmason16944 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video, thanks.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching fam :)
@jraquino649 ай бұрын
I know it might be effective but in some tournaments it is not allowed to have 3balls beside each other w the same kind (solids or stripes).
@steven-mz3jf4 ай бұрын
What is the name of the song you’re using?
@isaacjacquez71464 жыл бұрын
And yes Corey's pattern rack is illegal if you get caught, I did a few years back during usapl nationals. Before it was alternate break. Had 4 break an runs when they called a ref over to watch my racking... he explained as long as each rack was diferently placed it wasn't illegal. So there are ways around pattern racking... good video
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Yup precisely right. Thanks Issac
@robdetuinman22 жыл бұрын
Corey has 3 standard patterns he alternates
@davidrivera97432 жыл бұрын
That's why it needs to be no self rack. Referee or the other player should be racking.
@coolierewind3 жыл бұрын
Who gets to rack their own balls in a match? There is some valuable information here in a pattern to look for to switch your break from a head ball break to a second ball break, but pattern racking doesn't really come into play in league or even the bar.
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
I've played many tournaments and league where it's rack your own.
@bobbyicesr.22233 жыл бұрын
Does this rack work on 8 for table
@philbartlett13423 жыл бұрын
I am confused in Australian Pub Pool if you sink the eight ball at the break or anytime other than the very last ball you lose the game.
@warblerab29553 жыл бұрын
Does he have a straight pool break?
@travislogsdon86913 жыл бұрын
This is awesome game changer
@Cofimaslisa Жыл бұрын
how can you put balls like that? isnt there a rule in order?
@TheBilliardCorner Жыл бұрын
Can still use this break to guarantee a corner ball on the break
@djthesp2 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why i feel, solids and stripes should be evenly spaced inside a rack as possible.
@colbyking82584 жыл бұрын
What about trying to cover SVB’s break technique?
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Coming soon...🙂
@danielkandi45824 жыл бұрын
you mean including the turning of the rack in 9 & 10 ball to get the cornerball flying in? sure, lets post all the cheats :D
@danielkandi45824 жыл бұрын
but i will say that this is a nice channel despite exposing those probs.
@mike26874 жыл бұрын
@@danielkandi4582 - that exposure can also be used to detect what your opponent is doing too--all in what one does with the information I guess.
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
@@mike2687 Exactly
@georgea9959 Жыл бұрын
Hi - what is back handed english? Thxs
@islandguy26184 жыл бұрын
I've been trying this for 2 days and I just can't get consistent results. I did get the 8 ball in the side a few times and the corner ball in the corner a few times, but I have been getting that corner ball cross corner more than anything else. Also, where are you placing the cue ball?
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Make sure you're racking consistently every time. Ideally use a magic rack. Try varying your speed/power until you get your desired result. There is very small margin for error with this break shot. Hitting too full on the second ball results in the corner ball not going in. Hitting too thin on the second ball results in the cue ball near the back of the rack. You have to hit it "just" right (half ball hit on the second ball) with half tip of bottom left English. I am placing the cue ball near the side rail just like Corey Deuel. This break took me 3 days of practice (5+ hour sessions each day) before I could be consistent on my home table.
@islandguy26184 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner Thanks, I'll keep at it. I think I may be hitting the second ball too full. Thanks for the great vid and the tips.
@mr.lootybutthole4 жыл бұрын
you have to tilt the rack slightly, that is the other exploit TBC doesn't mention. Look exactly at his video, before the break. This is a second exploit guaranteeing a ball pocketet. It is still unethical like pattern racking though...
@PoolAddiction4 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! Can't wait to see your new videos!
@PoolAddiction4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner Trying to finish it up now (down to editing and it's getting close), it's a bit longer than I wanted but it was a review of 4 gloves at once so I should've expected it. Plus you know I got to do the B-roll!
@TheBilliardCorner4 жыл бұрын
@@PoolAddiction Awesome! I need to learn how to do B roll shots like you. Excited to see your review, been wanting to purchase a new glove :)
@PoolAddiction4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBilliardCorner Thanks! Hopefully the review will help you! It Should be out this week.
@kingkevstr Жыл бұрын
Gave me Talladega Nights vibes!😂 I don’t know what to do with my hands
@mrpoolplayer6379 Жыл бұрын
To me, the second time you rack like that, would be called Pattern Racking & you'll get disqualified.. Corey is the man who can tell you how to do it.
@TheBilliardCorner Жыл бұрын
Can just alternate the pattern just slightly and then it's not a pattern rack. Lots of loop holes.
@michaelm11053 жыл бұрын
Is it a W if you make the 8 on the break?
@TheBilliardCorner3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the tournament and rules. Many places its a W.