Cornes & King go head to head on Horne Francis’ move to Port - SEN

[@THOOODAI]

Kane has been ripping into JHF all year and as soon as he signs with port he feels he needs to defend him. Call it for what it is. Every #1 draft pick goes to the worst team (excluding academy/father son etc). JHF chose not to commit to a club that needed him.

[@LegitVenom]

Nick daicos > jhf

[@benjamincooper2553]

@@LegitVenom You might be the most clueless bloke ive ever seen...

[@thesecretwombat056]

@@LegitVenom If nick daicos wasn't a father son he would of 100% being selected at number 1. Nick daicos is winning a brownlow in the next 5 years

[@chugmah]

Kingy isn't wrong

[@helvijssaukants3479]

Rare, VERY RARE, King W

[@jibba0jabba1]

It’s not about an ice bath, it’s about his overall attitude, which sounds like it had been piss poor

[@gustaaf1892]

Kingy knows exactly what has been going on. He also knows that JHF didn't make himself popular within the playing group with his attitude. I think JHF expected to set the AFL alight, but he was rarely sighted. It wouldn't have been easy to stand out in games playing for a usually badly beaten North, but he should have shown a lot more than he did.

[@jackag24]

@@gustaaf1892 Thats because the North list is full of losers and JHF couldnt stand them

[@jsequine927]

Everyone having a go at North I think is unfair. This kid is talented but an absolute rotten egg. Unlike JHF, Clarkson is a serial winner and I have absolutely no doubt that his first order business was to trade this toxic kid out. This is a player they weren’t prepared to swap pick 2/3 for on talent alone, that they’re now prepared to swap for 2/3 and another #1 pick on character. He wanted to go number 1. Disrespected the club, senior players, coach and clearly has a long way to go to understand the standards required (most importantly respect and team work) to be one of the best players in the AFL, let alone the best. Top picks should be super talented but also be natural born hard workers and future leaders of the club. JHF is not a leader, he’s an egomaniac. If you want to be the best then walk the talk and win or at least be in contention for the rising star, don’t get dropped to the VFL, cause tumult all season with your struggling teammates and take pot shots on the way out saying there’s “gonna be instability at North next year”. As if you care about contributing to a stable environment. JHF is a first on the life raft kinda guy, not the type you need to win a flag.

[@stuartstibbs2069]

Haha. Wait and see.

[@troyjackson9743]

A serial winner? He was a good coach that had a great team. What happened when all the superstars that actually won the premierships started retiring or moving on? If he was so god they wouldnt have gotten bottom 4 multiple years in a row.

[@gustaaf1892]

JHF has led North up the garden path when he said he wanted them to pick him as the #1 pick in last year's draft. He never had any intentions to stay at the club beyond his initial two year contract. Having been 'coached' by Noble for most of his first season simply brought his departure forward by a year. His performances for North were lacklustre at best and he was a major disappointment. His lack of commitment to the club and disrespect for other players has left me with a sour taste in my mouth. It is for that reason that I don't wish him well in the future and hope that he doesn't live up to Port's expectations of him. I don't want to be thinking about what might have been if he becomes a star of the AFL. His self entitled attitude might get in the way of his ability.

[@andrewhowden6198]

I hop he pops his hammy and never gets a start, sorry but he’s scumbag, not a shinboner

[@StuTheDon17]

Its almost as if the kid wanted to go number 1 for the sake of being a number 1 pick. Childish

[@torpedodropkick59]

Glad North traded for 2, 3 first round picks!

[@gustaaf1892]

@@torpedodropkick59 Those picks were also in return for the #1 draft pick, not just JHF.

[@Bigsticks77]

@@StuTheDon17 that’s exactly what it was. He didn’t want daicos name to be mentioned first. Was common knowledge within the afl ranks.

[@andrewandy6959]

Horne Francis should have never said he loved being at North when he knew he would sign with Port. You don't say you love a club in August & then say they are unstable in October.

[@fishergb1]

Were North more or less stable in October than they were in August?

[@troyjackson9743]

when has a player ever come out and said they didnt love being at their club? Why are you expecting a 18yo to do something no other player does? Players are always guided to what they say in interviews and media. Why is he any different?

[@David-lq8cx]

North is a joke and why would he want to stay…. Doesn’t even have a coach until mid December at the earliest but yeah keep attacking the 18yr old

[@andrewandy6959]

@@David-lq8cxPort were a joke in 2012. I suppose your a Port supporter champ? Adelaide is Australia's wharfe bogan capital!! Nothing but a state with a bad rap...Remember the Snow town murders

[@andrewandy6959]

@@troyjackson9743 You won't agree . Even at 18 your still old enough to be somewhat accountable in what you say or do. To say he needs to be guided is a bit of a cop out. One is an adult at 18...at that age your old enough to vote,to drink,to have sex,and to go to jail if that person commits a crime. I don't totally buy it that an 18 year old needs to be guided

[@jasonevans4291]

Amazing the bias of Korn never gets old ! If Richmond did that to North it would be bad for the game !

[@cjcrrazy]

Don’t know why ‘go home’ players are paid long term/ big contracts. Surely savvy administrators would realize you pay them less if there so keen to be there and averse to moving now.

[@lukeskelton6479]

Love that Kane found a way through, haha. Brilliant.

[@PWD65]

Who are the 4 North Melbourne coaches from the last 12 months?

[@drbosommd]

North should have taken the pick swap deal before they even drafted him . The Roos were offered a deal that could have set them up for years but decided to take a kid that didn’t want to leave Adelaide. They were stupid from the get go.

[@gustaaf1892]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. JHF obviously didn't let on that he would return to Adelaide sooner rather than later. Very early in the season he refused to talk about a contract extension, so he was clearly already thinking about it then.

[@milkwalkerjones633]

@@gustaaf1892 I seem to recall plenty of people were talking about him doing this but North's powers that were at the time didn't listen. If you'll also recall, a lot of those people left North long before JHF did.

[@gustaaf1892]

@@milkwalkerjones633 You presumably are referring to those three recruiters. There could be something in that, but I wasn't unhappy that they left because North's recruitment and retention policies had been abysmal for a long time. I had no confidence in them, even if they perhaps made the right call in relation to JHF. We don't however know that they advised against picking JHF.

[@ChuckGibbs39]

Kane certainly not as strong with his opinion when he was actually questioned on it by someone with the facts. Really just confirms what we all knew, a shock jock looking for clicks instead of actually stating his opinion.

[@carlmarks8170]

"Clickbait" Cornesy

[@aussieintexas61]

he never states his opinion when he talks about the power , like you said, he hides facts and he defends everything. i saw him on footy classified almost crying, defending kenny hinkley, kenny was 0-5 and ten years without a premiership and justifiably under the hammer at the time. but kane was very defensive of the criticism and speculation. otherwise i dont mind some of what he says with his own criticism and speculation.

[@maxwatkins7032]

Both bias but I agree with kingy

[@torpedodropkick59]

King is right!

[@22ab8]

Really !!... This JHF Boy, mouthing off at 19 years of age. Crickey his Bum fluff and teenage Acne are the most outstanding features of his persona at the moment !!... This Boy's biggest issue is his Attitude.. Take note Laddy, you ain't proved nothing yet, but hey you know it all, right ??... Great Strategy, right ?, start your career in the top football competion in the country by shining the spotlight on you from day one... So your going to Have to perform Now, Right !!, or your going to look like a big blow hard... Oh don't forget, boyo, we'll be watching you !!... I

[@PTPavlos]

It’s a kid playing footy people. It’s not a story. Wish him all the best at his new club.

[@sotiriosnovatsis4529]

Except that it’s more than that. It represents players deliberately playing shit when things don’t go their way. Even worse when it’s a kid.

[@PTPavlos]

@@sotiriosnovatsis4529 good grief.

[@gregbutcher_musicplacecheck12]

Sports people get paid far too much money these days. While there are so many people living in poverty, no food to eat, no roof over there heads and you get all these spoilt sports people who get way too much. It's not about the sport anyone, it's all money money money.

[@lachycummings3765]

I absolutely detest Port Adelaide, but it's absolutely hilarious how sad JHF has made North supports look by leaving. 🤣

[@championsofitaly9321]

North Fans lose zero credibility

[@kangarootube.dailyvideosof5199]

That is the second time I have heard King claim the 18months with Boomer, very dishonest from him, deliberately exaggerating to defend his beloved NM. JHF was only at North for 12 months, so stop being so dishonest

[@lunch2102]

12 months. 18 months, who gives a shit, was being mentored by the AFL games record holder, the ultimate professional when it comes to preparation and was still a sook that threw wobblys... you're focusing on the wrong part of the story.

[@kangarootube.dailyvideosof5199]

@@lunch2102 I would agree with King, but if he is being deliberately dishonest on one part of the story, how do we know he is being honest with the rest of it?

[@lunch2102]

@@kangarootube.dailyvideosof5199 I honestly can't stand the guy but boomer is in charge of guidance for 1st and 2nd year players at North, that's a fact.

[@kangarootube.dailyvideosof5199]

@@lunch2102 being mentored by a legend for 12 months, or being strapped at the hip for 18 months, means it’s very fair to question the credibility of anything King says on this topic IMO

[@lunch2102]

@@kangarootube.dailyvideosof5199 the fact remains that he was mentored by boomer for at least 12 months, that is irrefutable, do we actually know how much interaction the bitch had with boomer before he was recruited? There may have been 6 months, there may have been none, I don't know for sure, do you? Pick the shit out of it however you like, doesn't change the fact. Edit: like I said, I can't stand king, I hate that he's north mouthpiece in the media, give me Carey any day

[@aussieintexas61]

horne francis and willie rioli. good luck trying to bring out the smarts in them boys kenny.......

[@binks7988]

JHF is a pelican

[@paulmatters2641]

Kane on the ropes. Put a standing eight count on him Kingy. North put the garbage out. I am a Bloods supporter.

[@Aerodynamics011]

Pretty sick of all the finger pointing. Horne Francis hasn’t acted professionally, north fucked up drafting him in the end. JHF’s gonna be a gun at port and North gets a good package of soon to be stars.

[@greenbane2105]

I don’t blame Jason at all, North have been a dumpster fire for the past 7 years now

[@aussieintexas61]

then why go there, because he selfishly wanted the tag of number one draft pick against his name. he could have let someone else go to north who may have been long-term. he used a flailing club for his own means, sad if he knew he wanted to be at port.

[@greenbane2105]

Because you think that after getting the number 1 that’ll change the culture of the club but instead they fire half their staff halfway through the season and hire an Alleged racist coach

[@torpedodropkick59]

It would have happened to any Melbourne club, JHF stated from the beginning he wanted to play for Port and family hometown! Sounds like a mummy’s boy

[@CarterHayes77]

Adelaide knew this and offered a good deal for pick 1. North stuffed up thinking they’d be able to keep a kid like that around.

[@troyjackson9743]

Did you get this triggeredby mommy's boy tom boyd? Or how about archie perkins who refused to leave mummy in the first place telling interstate clubs "if you draft me ill play worse"? Or were they ok because they played in vic?

[@championsofitaly9321]

Kane has always been a self aware hypocrite

[@fromjarrod]

When a poo morph’s into a human being, let’s call him David

[@jimmyriddle5246]

A flog AND a hypocrite

[@user-cx9gq2ud6t]

Wish brand Skip Bayless

[@c.a.marsupial.1282]

Nobody wants to go to north because they have become substandard. If north were in the English soccer league they would be in the fourth division right now. It's the club's fault.

[@paulweston285]

JHF Flog

[@Binga81]

Kane has a rubbish hot take now and again, but his reasoning is sound here. Nothing is black and white, and he explained his reasoning quite well. People just love jumping on him when he shows some contradiction, despite the fact that he is willing to admit when he is wrong and or changes his thoughts based on new or different information/circumstances.

[@HeywoodJablowme7]

He hasn't. He said long term deals are bad....then caved the second there was 1 at Port..... that's a hypocrite. If JHF turned around and suddenly signed a 6 year deal at north you KNOW 100% he wouldn't say "it's a smart deal he'll only be 25 at the end" he would be saying "it's wrong wrong wrong it's risky he could go back home any minute".

[@troyjackson9743]

@@HeywoodJablowme7 well there is no go home factor at port is there? So its irrelevant. He literally said he would be okay with collingwood giving daicos 6 years. Or do you not actually watch and just comment.

[@HeywoodJablowme7]

@Troy Jackson he said earlier in the season that long term contracts are bad as they are rarely seen to the end most recent being Grundy. He said it multiple times in the year. He then flipped it soon as it was a port player getting a big deal, he's a hypocrite plain and simple. You can pull put any excuse when it suits the agenda. What's to say JHF pikes in a few years if port slide and then requests a trade to Adelaide? Don't say it won't happen he's already proven his word means Jack shit.

[@troyjackson9743]

@@HeywoodJablowme7 for 25yo going on 32 when the contract ends. He literally said it in this video. You're picking and choosing what to highlight. You can pick and choose any quote when it suits YOUR agenda. Pretty much every time he has a go at long term contracts he mentions the players age.

[@HeywoodJablowme7]

@Troy Jackson go back and watch what he said in April this year. He didn't specify oh if the kid is young or this or that. History shows contracts don't mean shit, but the wasted money in paying them out early does matter speak to Collingwood who gave long contracts to treloar and Stephenson ..... annnnd got rid of them and still paying them out....but they offered daicos a long term contract... unless he gets a bigger offer elsewhere. Who do you follow?

[@championsofitaly9321]

Josh Ward will become a better player than Horne Francis watch

[@babylemonade2868]

I reckon he’s going to be a flop

[@richardhills235]

Haha welcome jhf to port we welcome you open arms.wait until port north game jhf carve you all up out the back door fast.this kid is good make no mistake he wasnt happy at north so he left.if im not happy in a job i leave not stay there and whinge.he fit into fantasia or buters spot nicely.those two wont play full seasons.

[@philippinesfunwithjlb7193]

JFK will win 6 brownlows

[@acadacs]

Josh kennedy yeh

[@philippinesfunwithjlb7193]

@@acadacs both retired from memory..

[@gustaaf1892]

He's been dead for 59 years, so highly doubtful.

[@stuartstibbs2069]

Haha. 7 yrs is a long time, but contracts mean nothing...vics are spewing coz they missed out. Horne Francis will be an absolute legend at Port. Go the POOWWEEERRRR!

[@gustaaf1892]

He has some of the attributes to become an excellent player, but it remains to be seen how good he really is. He hasn't proven anything yet, except perhaps that he has a crap attitude that Port needs to keep in check. He is clearly not as good as Nick Daicos who would have been taken as #1 in last year's draft had he not been tied to the Magpies. Compare what Daicos did to what JHF did last season and there is a world of difference.

[@stuartstibbs2069]

@@gustaaf1892 ...still early days... He will be better at Port. The next 10yrs will tell the story.

[@aussieintexas61]

horne francis and willie rioli. good luck trying to bring out the smarts in them boys kenny.......

[@milkwalkerjones633]

He needs to adjust his attitude and expectations but overall I believe you are right.

[@HeywoodJablowme7]

So suddenly conveniently for the former port player it's an ok deal to suddenly sign a 6 year deal as now "he'll only be 25 at the end f it". Ok.... So then by that logic Iif JHF turned around and signed a 6 year deal at north ..... you think Cornes would say its a good deal for North? Or he would say "another wrong deal, he'll be home in 3 years"?. Cornes is a hypocrite in every sense of the word, he would somehow justify sending his own mother if she was Jewish to Hitler if it helped Port.

[@claytondavid3610]

JHF wants to be the best player in the AFL ever, that will never happen. He is no Wayne Carey,or Chris Judd or Chris Judd. If any AFL player has his head up his arse is JHF. I suspect his new Nick name will be Fig Jam🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rayzasrant6192]

I don’t like David king but for once I totally agree with him Jason horn Frances was nothing but a sook and won’t ever be elite he will be lucky to be an average player at best North got it wrong last year this dude shouldn’t have been the number 1 pick he shouldn’t have even been in the top 10 I don’t support either team and that’s just my opinion ✌🏻

[@gustaaf1892]

Daicos would have been the #1 pick last year, but he was already tied to the Magpies. Darcy may have been the next in line, but he was tied to the Bulldogs. There was a lot of hype that built up around JHF after his massive man of the match performance for a badly beaten South Adelaide in the SANFL finals. After that he zoomed up the draft ratings because he showed a lot of great attributes that made you think he was a bullet proof champion in the making. He has managed to show very few of those attributes in his first year in the AFL. Some of that would have been down to North and David Noble in particular, but some of that is also down to JHF. He has shown a crap attitude that Port needs to work on, otherwise he is going to disappoint them.