Just want to say thank you, you've restored my faith in track tests for current cars. Usually they are so overproduced and you cant tell anything. Having a pro driver give a shakedown showing the good and bad, I haven't seen it done this well since Best Motoring. Well done. 911 call was hilarious.
@taypat3 сағат бұрын
Saturday morning is not complete without gears and gasoline. An adult Saturday morning cartoon experience lol
@Autumn_FayeСағат бұрын
Back in the day there was Horsepower TV after Saturday morning cartoons.
@hogibunz83459 минут бұрын
preach, bro
@robbann816054 минут бұрын
Hi guys, owner of 2023 WRX here got it brand new. No the new FA24 is not going to blow up on the track with modifications. Mine has all the bolt on’s with a custom tune on 93 pump gas, top of the line Fortune auto suspension sticky tires and all around STI Brembo brakes. Cost on all that and the car $41,000 it has 390 horse 450 torque my car is running circles around type R’s GR Corolla and many other vehicles on the track. And I still paid less than those guys and I’ve had zero issues with the car and now it has 30,000 miles on it. So yeah, if you wanna have a fun car for a daily and a track weapon, WRX is a clear winner. With plenty of money, saved over those two cars and many other competitors, including some M BMWs Porsche, etc.
@ReeseMacalma2 сағат бұрын
Love the pedal cam and the suspension cam. You continue to outdo yourselves for sure, and we need more of Coby on the channel!
@MadCarTK3 сағат бұрын
Is that a Corolla GR at the track?!?!?! NOOOOOOO!!!! THIS IS ABUSE OF THE VEHICLE!!!!!
@dennismelville75323 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂 I came here to comment that they better keep the GR under 80mph... or void the factory warranty!
@v8_sami3 сағат бұрын
Is there any solution to the diff overheating yet?
@benmorris72763 сағат бұрын
Warranty is now void . it burst into flames do too an unrelated thing , oh well to bad you drove how it's meant to be driven can't help ya now. That free track day we gave you that's meant to be used when your warranty is up not while you still have warranty
@ontarioman63013 сағат бұрын
Will not be sold as track ready anymore by Toyota 😂
@caerxm3 сағат бұрын
@@v8_sami a thicker oil perhaps?
@progpogs2 сағат бұрын
This felt so more real than reviewers afraid to say negative things about the car, and the CTR blowout is so real, I worry about daily driving a sidewall that small.
@grecghenriquez39972 сағат бұрын
As an owner of a 2022 wrx, this video puts a smile on my face
@Pman83622 сағат бұрын
Nice to see some love for our cars
@amm58903 сағат бұрын
FL5 in individual mode. Set everything in +R with suspension in comfort. This is the way 👌throw in the integra suspension module and it’s perfect.
@PaintflowException2 сағат бұрын
I already threw in the ITS module, and it's way better. Highly recommend.
@MyRealName2 сағат бұрын
it's bizarre how bad they tuned it out of factory, you shouldn't be forced to modify a brand new modern and expensive hot hatch
@ShaiyanHossain2 сағат бұрын
@@MyRealNamefwiw ITS ads is a $200 part and takes like a 15 min install and its still an oem part from the sameish car But yes, the engineers in Japan wanted an "extteme" mode
@PaintflowException2 сағат бұрын
@@MyRealName yeah, I don't know why they made it so incredibly over damped.
@amm58902 сағат бұрын
@@MyRealName comfort mode with the stock module isn’t bad at all. +R is utterly unbearable. I think it was more so developed for smooth as glass F1 level circuits. Thank God for individual mode when I drive to work everyday lol.
@Trinidrift3Сағат бұрын
Really appreciate Coby's insight and perspective. As a track person its very useful knowledge to note.
@chenbenyashar78372 сағат бұрын
Great vid, thanks! Am I the only one here caught up on the fact the these 2 hot hatches can only do 2-3 hot laps on track?? (And not for brake & tire temps, but for actual engine & drivetrain components...)
@LeronNoel3 сағат бұрын
The Car was so scared it called 911😂😂😂😂
@chimmychaunga84432 сағат бұрын
actually wild😭
@ashliehiggins39 минут бұрын
It'll happen when you're a little 3 pot and 8 cylinders of angry American comes screaming past.
@Xmvw2X51 минут бұрын
Fun note is the Corolla AWD is that it does not overheat. There is just a timer in the ECU that counts down during hard driving and when that reaches zero: AWD overheat. The sensor in the rear diff unit doesn't do anything, isn't in the liquid, doesn't change anything unplugged, doesn't change anything with a cooler. The ONLY fix I've ever seen was from Best Motoring for a Yaris episode running the same awd design. There was a UK company (not sure which) that has an ECU mod (piggyback system?) that could be added to the car, and then the AWD timer is bypassed letting you run it in awd for a long time no problem. This Best Motoring episode is 2 years old, so this info has been out for quite a while. But no one really talks about it ever and just keeps blaming the overheating issue which isn't really real. I don't know why Toyota programmed it into the ECU like that, and there is no bypass I'm aware of. There might be some fancy "pedal dance" kind of bypass or access mode in the software, but I've never seen anything. The only think is some add-on thing from the UK from some company unknown ot me but has been around for years as a support for the Yaris that first had this awd system.
@tommynguyen862025 минут бұрын
Do you know if that ECU piggyback for the GRY can be applied to the GRC?
@m4u523 минут бұрын
While it is software trigger limit there has to be reason for that. Toyota don't want you to run these harder and longer perior doing so will definitely kill is within Warren period. All properly built high perf cars cool these fluids in diff that's the right way.
@Xmvw2X17 минут бұрын
@@tommynguyen8620 No idea. Outside of the one Best Motoring video from 2 years ago where one tuner for the Yaris (Revolution) was talking about using some system from the UK to defeat the awd overheat cutout, I've never seen anything more about it. I have no idea what company was used, what the system is, or anything. I don't have a Corolla GR, so I'm not really vested to dig into this stuff, just merely stuff I've come across.
@Xmvw2X12 минут бұрын
@@m4u5 No idea why. There's tuners that have been trying to figure that out, including opening up the system, testing the sensor, making custom parts, adding coolers, all kinds of stuff, and the result has been they have no clue. They're pushing cars up to 400-500hp and don't know why. It's just a timer that counts down in the ECU. That's it. The sensor in the back just sits in air, not even in the liquid and doesn't absolutely nothing. So there's an aftermarket that wants to do stuff with it, beef it up if needed, handle thermals if needed, and they can't bypass the problem. People also seem reluctant to just pull the ECU and toss an aftermarket one in instead to work around it. Folks want a work-around, ideally OEM and of course simple. But from Toyota's side, this is likely something like a gen 2 track mode or something. I don't know. Even Japanese tuners who have started with the Yaris GR we didn't get and have worked through the Yaris and now Corolla don't have Toyota coming out with an OEM bypass of any kind.
@Xmvw2X9 минут бұрын
@@tommynguyen8620 Here's the KZbin episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2SvYqtrbLqbo9E 2min:13sec into the video the tuner guy from Revolution mentions the UK brand controller that fixed the awd cutout. It might be a unit that independently controls the awd actuation and completely ignores the ECU, but I have no idea, and he doesn't say what brand made the controller, just that it's from the UK.
@Airspaceuser2 сағат бұрын
Love the WRX lurking in the back ground in the intro
@NateDog_WDE31 минут бұрын
2:32 chris "I made a poor financial decision" ben "that's awesome" 🤣
@rcravincase3 сағат бұрын
Honda programmers be like R1 R2 L1 L2 ←↓→↑←↓→↑
@limitetpancake94593 сағат бұрын
aint that the health cheat in ps2 gta:sa
@rcravincase2 сағат бұрын
@@limitetpancake9459 yup
@limitetpancake9459Сағат бұрын
@@rcravincase i think i remember it slighly different though. i think it was R1,R2,L1,X,←↓→↑←↓→↑
@rcravincase50 минут бұрын
@@limitetpancake9459 armor is r1 r2 l1 x according to reddit
@limitetpancake945946 минут бұрын
@@rcravincase yea armor, health and i think like 125k$
@OfficeLinebacker2 сағат бұрын
Cool video. I think the largest driver of pace difference on the WRX is the tires. Yeah they are low end 200TW tires but they are 200TW tires.
@PH03N1X_832 сағат бұрын
The "pedal dance" was also a thing in the FR-S/BRZ 😆 1. Warm the car up, pull e-brake 3x (leave up on the last pull) 2. Depress brake pedal 3x (holding on the last) 3. Frustratingly repeat until TC and SC magically turn off 🤬 4. Don't turn the car off unless you want to repeat steps 1-3!!!
@SkylineLofe2 сағат бұрын
it's a thing with every Toyota and Lexus product Oh and every Honda and Acura product as well. Did it in my MDX a few times when I wanted to do more of a showy run at rallycross and get the rear end to slide out a bit
@blackcow81142 сағат бұрын
This video proves that the current gen WRX is so underrated.
@PercivalDunlop3 сағат бұрын
The way you explain things is unmatched!
@Timo_tambien2 сағат бұрын
Follow up comparison with both on Fortune coilovers and no other changes would be interesting. They both struggled on stock suspension.
@lloydchambers39043 минут бұрын
That WRX sway bar shifts so much showing how much those fortune autos put in work
@tougeboi7293 сағат бұрын
Would be cool to do videos and add the times of your own cars like the S2000 (when fixed) and RX-8
@bfgracing2 сағат бұрын
It was bouncy because suspension was on full force rebound at R mode. It goes up but not open fast enough to be ready for another hit. So you have what we call in suspension industry "packing". Clearly seen on C camera mounted on fender when wheel is shown.
@jamiesantos6935Сағат бұрын
Let's be real we all were rooting for Golfball to win lol
@DanielODonnellProAweМинут бұрын
That WRX rear subframe flippy flopping around is wild!
@cjracer2 сағат бұрын
When you do the pedal dance in the FL5 to defeat the VSC, it also allows you to run outside of +R mode while also allowing the traction/stability to be completely off (something you can normally only do in +R). You could go into Individual mode and set everything into +R (steering, engine response, etc) but the suspension in comfort and still have traction/stability off. It works for bumpy tracks!
@ShaiyanHossainСағат бұрын
I thought +R mode still kept VSA on, albeit more relaxed vs other modes
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks2 сағат бұрын
Excellent video only missing the Elantra N
@_Suzuka_Joe3 сағат бұрын
just woke up with impeccable timing.
@m4xripper2 сағат бұрын
same lol only reason i wake up at 9 am on a saturday
@JoshCanDrive3 сағат бұрын
Your track content is my favorite! We need more of this
@JayRitzy3 сағат бұрын
Almost bought the GR but ended up with the FL5 a few months back. Much better interior, seats and overall feel. Plus the salesman at the Toyota dealership was lowballing me on my 2022 Bronco trade in, plus he was being kinda an ass.
@stevenhearnden61033 сағат бұрын
More Finance. 😂
@vwssit2 сағат бұрын
that subframe bushing flex...
@hogibunz83459 минут бұрын
I'd happily take the FL5... with some fortune auto coilovers, lol.
@m4xripper2 сағат бұрын
That was a great episode lol man that was jokes when the car called 911 when you got passed by those trans ams
@allenjay7188Сағат бұрын
Gotta love the point by, then full throttle out of the corner.
@Booka31412 сағат бұрын
The owners nuber plate game is on point!
@seanclowerz607538 минут бұрын
Honestly, the plates were the highlight of the video for me when i saw them. The owner sliding in the "lol" on both plates is the cherry on top for me!😂
@jakqwe1Сағат бұрын
GNG has become my Saturday morning routine.
@ErkkremlinklumСағат бұрын
That safety shit automatically would have me wanting to sell the car
@Rannd2 сағат бұрын
Love these videos - keep doing them!
@Yore0Сағат бұрын
I love that shade of blue on the CTR.
@BettyFisher-gy4sk3 сағат бұрын
It's crazy how awesome this is!
@NitroAdventure3 сағат бұрын
We need a lot more of these
@Tiax77654 минут бұрын
Those stupid automatic SOS systems need to be banned. Those are just dumb and they are constantly tracking you.
@HarryTwatter3 минут бұрын
buddy thought he was going to flip that GRC and now he's stuck with it lol
@mathieulevasseur408215 минут бұрын
A popular and inexpensive mod to fix the Civic type R too stiff of a suspension is to install a ADS module from a Integra type S. That's how they should of came out from the factory.
@Timbuckley013 сағат бұрын
Beautiful Saturday morning, the rest of the fam is still asleep. Daddy time with G&G. 😎
@Rose.Of.Hizaki2 сағат бұрын
Would have been great if a *GR YARIS* could have made a guest appearance.
@obsessionracing29826 минут бұрын
I love this series.
@dMushh45 минут бұрын
Really love this kind of video!
@yeetsalittle2 сағат бұрын
I have a GR Corolla and the understeer and the car not wanting to rotate is definitely my biggest (and honestly only) real problem with the car. Whether its 50/50 or 30/70 torque split, it doesnt want to rotate unless you pull the handbrake, and obviously you arent gonna do that on a track. Im not sure what the solution is, whether its suspension setup or just the way the AWD system works with the clutch pack, but its something that im hoping to find a fix for in the future
@ShaiyanHossainСағат бұрын
Stiffer rear swaybar?
@anthonyrobitaille89632 сағат бұрын
The WRX might benefit from new/stiffer subframe bushings!
@blistartСағат бұрын
Chasing porches with a subaru , good job mannn
@alban94652 сағат бұрын
No way a GAZOO RACING corolla on track?!!!! Now this is abuse and not toyota approved!
@JK-tu1xx4 минут бұрын
GR Corolla had traction control on the entire time, the car is an entirely different driving experience with TC off. The understeer feeling was definitely the tc in the car limiting power as the rear was sliding, thus causing the car to push the front.
@VictorPitstop28 минут бұрын
Just goes to show you there is no perfect car, especially out of the box… but with money you can certainly get close. Choose your Pokémon er… uh, platform wisely!
@joemaggio6806Сағат бұрын
Toyota used that 911 call info to void the warranty
@masonn343017 минут бұрын
love the editing
@eddiehp2 сағат бұрын
After seeing that gt3 getting eaten 😅Coby is my hero
@colino98982 сағат бұрын
Did anyone else’s phone go off when Coby said “Hey Siri, call Ben Lin” 😂😂😂
@elitecpudoc3292 сағат бұрын
I want to know what sensor triggered the 911 call, that is to funny. "Do you need an ambulance? No, I'm on a track!"
@austinwolfe2373Сағат бұрын
I’m so jealous your home track is VIR😭. My favorite track of them all
@GTI_LiteСағат бұрын
The RSB movement on the WRX is interesting.
@ITt-w4tСағат бұрын
Excellent video!
@ItsJustCams2 сағат бұрын
Bots aside, I've been thinking about getting something "Sensible" to drive for a new daily. This was RIGHT on time. lol
@Flyboy_Gospel2 сағат бұрын
I would like to see the GR86 run for a comparison
@actualizare3 сағат бұрын
And at the end of the day, an Evo beats them all. 😂
@Crippetube16 минут бұрын
Thank you for this!!!!
@UnknownUser_00003 сағат бұрын
Yes.
@Kong451 минут бұрын
Good morning everyone ❤
@boolji41 минут бұрын
Jesus I wish there was an INDIVIDUAL mode in the Type R which lets you literally customize each setting and maybe put the suspension in comfort! Golly Me!
@hooah19862 сағат бұрын
What an episode!
@cs229451 минут бұрын
This was awesome
@vjdfl550 минут бұрын
Why wouldn't you just adjust the suspension in 'Individual' in the CTR so that you could have everything else in R lol🤦♂
@barrycomer36882 сағат бұрын
When you buy a GT3 you should get driving lessons.
@ShaiyanHossainСағат бұрын
Most GT3 owners are more interested in bragging about PTS options and ADM
@genericsomethingСағат бұрын
"The Toyota has had some overheating issues." That's putting it mildly!
@eydvlogs3541Сағат бұрын
Gears and Gasoline owes Chris some gears and gasoline 😂
@baramor_26842 сағат бұрын
I’ve never had a car call the manufacturer on me😂😂😂😂😂
@piskooooo2 сағат бұрын
Throw in an N car next time if you can!
@usergrade7812Сағат бұрын
GR's tires were probably getting pretty tired by the time he got the clean lap. The diff overheating issue isn't overheating - it's something in the ECU that is reading a sensor that doesn't really do anything. The thought is it can be fixed by tuners once it's found in the programming.
@johnnyEXCELLENT3 сағат бұрын
Let’s gooooo it’s Saturday!!!
@claudedottin13123 сағат бұрын
Shoulda drive Mark’s evo x here
@simracingsouthaussie91303 сағат бұрын
Old Honda xr600's had the 'honda dance' in the manual, if you didn't follow it, good luck kick staring that bad girl into life 😂
@NitroAdventure3 сағат бұрын
This is amazing 👏
@ItsJustCams2 сағат бұрын
Also, the Fortune Auto WRX? "Golf Ball" is funny, but green and Orange? Surprised no one thought "Pumkin" lol
@fatman1288Сағат бұрын
I'd like to see Colby in a Hyundai Elantra N Dct and a Veloster n Dct!
@BillyTheTeen952 сағат бұрын
8:18 OH NO! Please don't take away his warranty Toyota! 😢
@stephenabril70843 сағат бұрын
If my car called 911 on me I would get rid of it.
@alpacamix3 сағат бұрын
damn you brave bringing the gr corolla on track. will all the toyota say dont
@SegbirdСағат бұрын
i get this channel focuses on japanese cars, but it would have been cool to compare these to the golf r
@ShadowGrip19 минут бұрын
Reminder: Subaru WRX(VB) engine is a FA24, no longer a FA20 or EJ. Maybe the FA24 is more reliable.
@AlphaDigitalFK83 сағат бұрын
Siiiiick, love this. Not surprised on the GRC issues, seems like that happens a lot kind of similar to the FORS. Also not surprised at how stiff the suspension is on the FL5. Seeing both Dai Yoshihara and DK drive them around track when they came out and they had similar comments. Im surprised the FL5 stayed in R mode with the pedal dance, iirc the FK8 kicks you back into sport mode if you do that. Good stuff, keep it comin!
@ricardofernandes73033 сағат бұрын
I know it become more expensive, but to be a complete fair comparison it should be on the same tyres. For example the FK8 and FL5, would love to see a comparison with them having the exact same wheels, tyre make/model/size, to confirm if the FL5 is actually faster or not. anyway, great video
@philmariopСағат бұрын
Yo. Simpson hybrid for 3 points will provide hans function with a 3 point belt.
@H1GHD3FF2 сағат бұрын
14:32 is that normal movement coming from the sway bar? Side to side?
@jrharbarСағат бұрын
key car shootout !!! cars must cost less than 1000, and can only do 500 worth of mod., track + drag + estetics = winner
@commbubba1990Сағат бұрын
Well at least the GR didn’t catch on fire
@progpogs2 сағат бұрын
8:17 void warranty (gps verified)
@jmccarsnmore1025Сағат бұрын
It will be disrespectful if I watch another video other than GnG on a Saturday when I wake up. On a more serious note, the Type R was 2.5 seconds faster than the GR. That’s the difference .4 liters and 1 cylinder can make. I always said, Toyota should had made the GR Corolla with a 4 cylinder based from the G16 engine. It would have been a 2.2 liter, roughly.
@TypeVertigoСағат бұрын
Nah that seemed more like a suspension tuning thing. It understeered everywhere. That time gap is time spent fighting the car trying to bludgeon it into turn-in.
@jmccarsnmore102537 минут бұрын
@@TypeVertigo Besides that point. A little tweaking here and there. But both cars are stock performance wise. If the GR was 4 cylinder, it would ve over. The under steer would still there, but the top speed could be better or reached faster. 🤷🏼♂️ Just my opinion.
@slick441524 минут бұрын
Of course it’s going to push on 50:50 more should’ve switched to 30:70
@GearsandGasolineМинут бұрын
50/50 is literally called Track Mode by Toyota
@mrphiscal3 сағат бұрын
The gr is front wheel drive. Because the diff is going over heat the and turn off