COROS APEX 2 and APEX 2 PRO - New HR Sensor, Offline Mapping, and CRAZY Battery Life!

[@TheSloanlogic]

For me it's the 955 vs the Apex Pro 2. I've been waiting to see what the Apex Pro 2 has to offer. I used the Pace 2 for about 6 months to see how I like the Coros ecosystem. It's really good and simple. It works seamlessly with Stryd and creating workouts is a breeze. But angled dial on the Pace 2 is also easier to use vs the middle placement of the dial on the Apex series. It's subtle but harder to use quickly on the Apex watches. Though the Apex Pro 2 has a touch screen, so thats a plus. I just didn't like the Apex series vs the Pace 2 when I tested them together. I preferred the Pace 2 and found the mapping on the Apex series lacking. I've been testing the 955 and I have to say I really, really like it. And I was not a Garmin fan before. It just has way more to offer in terms of wellness, race day weather, calendar, morning report and race planning (pace pro, courses, Connect IQ - GRun). Coros has a better, more simplified and streamlined iOS experience but Garmin goes deeper. I think it comes down to battery and what u value more. Though the build quality of the sapphire screen is nice, I find the 955 to be really good and has the added solar too. The Apex being Titanium casing can get cold in the winter around your wrist--you feel it. The 955, yes its plastic but I think this will be better in colder months. There are other things I like about Garmin in the options as well -- endless screens for running. Whereas Coros you only get 6. I love these improvements from Coros and the battery improvement is awesome. Lots of ideas and feelings on this as I'm still not too too invested in either the Garmin or Coros ecosystem.... thanks for reviewing so quickly Dave. I would love to see a deep dive of the Apex Pro 2 vs the 955. Funny in the review you're wearing the 955!! All the best!! Great stuff. Thx

[@MozzelMr]

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[@Elmarvan94]

Interesting comparison. I'm a big fan of my all plastic forerunner 955! With more premium materials comes a higher weight

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Surprisingly the APEX 2 and 955 are pretty similar in weight even with the higher end build materials. But you're totally right, I love the fact that when I scratch my black plastic 955 it's still black and not a shiny metal streak!

[@courtneyr.6680]

It’s true but I have a perfectly fine Garmin that works Internally but a plastic piece broke off that holds the watch band on so it is useless to Me now- this is why I am looking for a watch that isn’t made of plastic. I spent a lot of money on a Garmin watch and sadly cannot wear it on my wrist anymore because of the cheap materials they used. Very sad

[@trocomerlo]

You're not just another guy in KZbin Dave, you're the goto channel when it comes to sport watches. I'm replacing my old 735xt, and I had 2 different watches in mind: the fr 955 or the apex 2 pro. Thanks to all the video analysis you've posted about these 2 models, I can make an educated decision. Ty!

[@KYspeaksfood]

that routable mapping can come really handy tho.. biggest reason I ended up with a garmin

[@builong7761]

Decision of you is?

[@trocomerlo]

@@builong7761 garmin 955, mainly because of climbpro and better map navigation tools

[@ActiveIdeas]

Fantastic review mate! Can’t wait to get my hands on these, excellent from Coros! 🌟

[@KomengDeBatiste]

Its good to see the Apex evolving. My first Coros watch was the 1st Gen Apex. At the moment I'm holding on to my Vertix Mojito until I see something revolutionary from Coros.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

They look really good. I have the original apex pro, and apart from extremely disappointing battery life (loads of people reporting this on multiple models atm, so hopefully this actually gets fixed....), I am very happy to have returned my absolutely not fit for purpose fenix 6 (non pro). I think the wellness tracking can (and maybe will?) be improved, but in practice the only thing the f6 did better was route planning in the connect/explore apps (and I can still use those, just need a PITA extra step). Although according to ultratrail steven coros are going to implement a route planner soon? I hear garmin is better for mtb as well, but rumours have coros are working on cycling metrics. I don't run in places I am not familiar with often, and if I do I usually plan my route in advance, so don't imagine I would ever need the in watch route creation, but in the interest of fairness, I will acknowledge that's another feature the garmins apparently do better. If I were buying a new watch today, at either price point, I would be buying the coros every time.

[@heinerkuesters9243]

I am currently using a Garmin Vivoactive 3 and that is why I am looking for something else. After 3 years of using the Garmin is down to something like 60-70% of the charging. This means after roughly 300-400 charges I have started to switch it off during night not to destroy it even faster by loading every 2-3 days. Compared to my phone and expected industry behaviour I would expect that to not be on that level now. For Garmin a customer is a tester. So I am looking for a Coros next time.

[@theronwolf3296]

I would not be too afraid of fiber filled polymer (called plastic here). G-shock has done that forever without problems, I've also had a Luminox with carbon fiber filled polymer which was very light and comfortable on the skin.

[@jaszczur8914]

I had Apex 46mm, now I'm very pleased user of Apex Pro and I'm sure that my next watch will be Apex Pro2. Good quality, battery life, perfect for me app, this is sportwatch for me. I just don't understand why they choose mp3 music. We have 2022, people use Spotify/apple music. In my opinion they should delete this option or synch with some music platform.

[@Gabrielerf]

Great video, very nice watch, Coros is very good alternative for Garmin today.

[@danielsaunders563]

Hey great review. I'm honestly feeling a little underwhelmed for this release. The screen looks super dull, I dislike the map mode that is not routable and no labels. There really seems like there's nothing new here from what every one else is doing. For my money I would definitely go with the Garmin option. I think an interesting comparison would be with the new Amazfit Falcon, which seems much more versatile with similar durability (except for onboard maps).

[@WisemanNetero]

keyword here being " for more money "

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It really depends on what you're looking for. These watches blow away the competition if you purely look at build quality, outdoor features, and battery life at this price point. The "dull" displays are there to prolong battery life for sport scenarios like triathlon/ultramarathon. The displays are a big step up from older COROS models but still transflective so they'll never beat an OLED. The Amazfit Falcon has some advantages but lacks the training tools, battery life, mapping, and more advanced sport features that the COROS watches have. It boils down to which features you prioritize as there's not really a "one size fits all" solution. Thanks for watching.

[@TheMoonSeesMe]

Thanks Dave! Coros is replacing my Apex with a Apex 2 under warranty so it's good to see what I'm getting.

[@benbeelerfitness2595]

Thanks for a great review! I returned the Garmin 965 for an apex 2 pro because it integrates natively with stryd. I also like how Coros has nylon band options and better build quality. The downsides for me would be the mapping, less sharp display, and slightly smaller screen. Optical HR doesn't matter to me because I use morpheus for workout tracking and HRV data to determine recovery and HR zones every day. Garmin fitness tracking is just not as good. I also like how Coros is developing extra sensors like the band and the pod. I think this is the way to go instead of trying to make a watch do everything.

[@zenfully13]

I just recently got the alert from Coros about the Apex 46 recall. Even though my watch has been working almost perfectly I still am going through with the "free" replacement. They offered me the Apex Pro or $350 credit on their site. I decided to do some research comparisons and went with an upgrade to the Apex 2 Pro. Paying $149 more for something a bit more feature packed. Looking forward to it's arrival. The downside (yet totally fair) is that Coros will be able to remotely disable my current watch if I try to use it with the app. Again, totally understandable. They mention this on their website forums. Thanks for the excellent reviews!

[@kzahrte]

I have no comment about the new Coros models. I really just want to say that your tshirt is fantastically amazing. Cheers!

[@horacioperez8443]

Dave does, the apex pro has the same user interface as the apex pro 2 ( wellness and exercise activity ) from the home screen 8:40

[@toadlguy]

Great review. Thanks for pointing out the build quality. Titanium and sapphire in a $400 or $500 watch is a first I think. But what I really like is your Yeti Ranger T-shirt

[@scriptosaurusrex]

The gen one watches had sapphire lenses too (possibly titanium bezels as well, can't remember off top)

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yep, gen 1 was the same build though these new ones feel a bit more refined.

[@earthquakemagoon2505]

I'm still using a Garmin 735xt with a Garmin 305 HR chest strap. I know at some point soon that Garmin will stop supporting it so I'm looking into a 955. Thanks David!

[@jasonchaput7169]

Excellent overview of the new watches....and love the TARC shirt!

[@_J.F_]

I will stick with my two month old Fenix 7 but the Apex 2 and 2 Pro are nice looking watches with a very high build quality for your money. Something worth asking yourself before buying a new watch though is whether you want a new watch that will last for decades and still look good, or if you prefer the much cheaper plastic version, but the latest tech, and then upgrade every maybe 2-3 years instead. Personally I have been a Garmin customer since 2004 when I bought a Garmin eTrex Vista C (I still have it and it still works fine) so I will probably continue with Garmin just because old habits die hard.

[@supersupersocco]

btw, DO NOT go swimming in a pool with chlorine if you have the Coral color version. The patena comes off. Luckily Coros replaced the watch for me.

[@TheSpeasy84]

I dont know, but at this price point i think i will choose garmin fr955 for my next sportwatch. I am a little bit disappointed.

[@jeffreytillack4709]

Coros all the way for this comparison with the Garmins. What's going on with the Garmin's huge bezels??? Coros make some great stuff, and their build quality is really good compared to the plastic of the Garmins.

[@investorstillman727]

I’ve been a coros user for over 3 years now and my only complaint (and it’s a big one) is about reliability. My first watch last 15 months before it had battery issues and was replaced under warranty. The replacement watch lasted only year before it became unresponsive and now my 3rd watch has failed. I love the battery life of the coros but it’s otherwise let down by poor components. It’s back to Garmin for me.

[@DustinHallUltraRunner]

Thanks for a great review, getting the A Pro, moving up from an old Fenix 5

[@anujphadke9785]

What you will pick fenix 6 pro / solar model considering heavy discount on them or Apex 2 pro ?

[@Pipppetto]

Can't just figure out how the next Vertix could be, after seeing what great improvements the Apex series got. Anyway, from a long time Garmin user's standpoint, it's difficult to switch to another ecosystem while Garmin itself won't rest on its laurels ... Of course, a 20-30% retail price less is a huge argument for Coros, against comparable features. Kudos for the great job; as always, very informative and clear about any topic.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

I could think of a few features: Streaming Music? OLED Display? Body Temp Sensor? Even more battery life?!

[@hardmtnbiker]

Those are really nice, pretty inexpensive compared with Garmin. Also it packs a lot of features that many of the other brands have. As for external sensors, what about the Rally XC200 pedals and the Polar H10 sensors?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

If they're Bluetooth they'll work.

[@trailzrock2]

I’m not a fan of AMOLED display watches. Feels like I’m wearing a phone on my wrist. Glad they went with MIP display. But with no ANT+ it’s not a good triathlon Watch. Especially if you spend time riding indoors and need the power paired to both the Watch and your iPad, computer etc 👎

[@cutterdevil]

I will stick with Garmin because I used their ecosystem for a long time and I rely on it to analysis my trainning. Anyway i think the apex 2 series is a good competitor to garmin forerunner series. Just wanna know will you do a review on Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

[@GaryNgKT]

Thanks for the review, just got the Apex 2 today and looking forward to test it out

[@mikem4215]

Nice video thanks. I have an apex pro and in your video the interface on the 2 pro looks a bit different. Think that is a software update yet to come to the apex pro? Debating upgrading.

[@adamshani3049]

Awesome review mate, thanks !!

[@tiphni001]

Swimming, hiking/backpacking, running and walking. Which watch is the best in your opinion. There are so many options and I have watched your videos….

[@KC-UT4rmAZ]

Here’s a question for you. If you were going to buy one, the new Coros Apex (not pro) or the older Apex Pro, which one?

[@mikem4215]

Apex pro

[@BenjaminYew0488]

I use the cheapest coros which I have found to differ on average distance of 300 metres from my Garmin fenix 7. The pace differs by 20_30 secs as well

[@codyjackson7355]

Great video! Thanks Dave 👍

[@scorpisces182]

Great video! I have a question: Coros Apex 2 VS the Garmin Venu 3? Im looking at both of these and cant decide! Which one of these two have better heart rate accuracy and better GPS? Does the Venu 3 even have maps at all?? Any feedback would be really appricated!

[@FiremanFrach]

Permanent marker to cover up the Explore Perfection. Tacky, I know, but it should work.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

For sure, I'm sure some people will like it. For me, I love the minimalist design and I wish the band matched!

[@FiremanFrach]

@@ChaseTheSummit LOL, I'm with ya on that!

[@ropersix]

So if you create and import a GPX file with a route to the 2 Pro, you can then get the watch's topo map to show "underneath" it, right?

[@AKL82]

Is it worth upgrading from a 2 year old Apex Pro to the new Apex 2 Pro? Unfortunately there is no trade-in program.

[@mikem4215]

I’m in same boat. For me the 2 pro doesn’t seem to be that different than the apex pro at all for what I do

[@ivanborodavka9322]

Hi, great video! I consider buying a good gps sports watch. I am comparing Coros apex pro (1st release) to Garmin fenix 6. Accuracy of gps and heart rate are my priorities. Which one do you recommend me to get ?

[@vitorkellermann6522]

New Coros Apex 2 Pro or old Garmin Fenix 6x Pro Sapphire?

[@MerdzTheGreat]

I liked the intro "Woooh"👐🏻

[@M1szS]

lol i was eating and watching this video, so i turned on subtitles, and every time you said "forerunner" youtube showd it as "foreigner"

[@Stefan-od3us]

Would you say the apex 2 pro feels and looks bigger or smaller than the 955?

[@willwilling4728]

Can you make a recommendation for a watch for night running with a bright display and larger numbers particularly for pace? I'm currently using the Garmin 245.

[@user-nc3li2uq2c]

Hi Dave..Nice review as Always!!😍i would like to see your comparison on Garmin Epix Gen 2 vs Garmin Quatix 7 AMOLED since they have same AMOLED display thanks.

[@lpeters2777]

Have been wondering when we'd see these. I had an Apex Pro, but had to return it as the screen was so dim that I had trouble reading it. Much has been upgraded in the system in general, and with the additional accuracy of the GPS, HR sensor, plus the addition of music and the foot pod, I am really considering the new Pro model. The screen on the Pro looks much better in the video, do you feel that is a bit brighter / more contrasty than the old model? Thanks for the review, great stuff as always!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yes, the display on these new Apex's are a cut above the older COROS models (even the Vertix 2) They're quite bright and seem similar to something like the 255 / 955 in Garmin's lineup.

[@trailtillyoudrop]

Is the Ant+ also not on these. Maybe I missed this but don't think you mentioned this. Thanks for the great review 💪

[@john.maynard]

Thanks for the great review. Current Apex 46 user. Really, really like it (tops are the weight, comfort, build quality, and battery life). If I were to make the change, would need to step up to the Apex2 Pro, which is a 43% premium vs Apex 46. Good thing my Apex is still running strong.

[@giovanbattistafichera8439]

lucky you. Mine died at month 18. Got a replacement, this one has a battery that drains fast. Getting a third one now LOL. Crossing fingers this one actually works.

[@stefano8675]

​@@giovanbattistafichera8439three replaced under warranty for me too. now I upgrade it with apex 2 pro paying the price difference

[@dnice362]

Could care less about COROS, I have 955 Solar and Fenix 7 sapphire Solar. Fenix 7 is your best fitness watch period. I love your channel and watched and liked to support you

[@scriptosaurusrex]

You could care less (you care a little bit), or could not care less (you care the least amount possible, i.e. not at all)? 😉

[@fitgearhunter]

You got the black one! No one else did. Great review! Question I've asked all: how is the brightness vs past Coros watches? And do you still have to log 300 min of running to activate EvoLabs?

[@fitgearhunter]

And lord! They put words on the stocks bands?!? Crazy!

[@fitgearhunter]

And also, you're the only one to mention that the water resistance rating is less than the original! great job breaking down nuances

[@ChaseTheSummit]

The brightness on these is WAY better than the previous models as I mention in the video. It's pretty similar to the Garmin Forerunner 955 at 50% brightness on the Apex Pro. Evolabs has not changed... Same 300 mins to activate.

[@JoshuaTree83]

Great review. It helped me inform my purchase decision. Also, where did you get that shirt? Love it!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

www.movefreedesigns.com/store/p35/yetirangerheathersage.html#/

[@JoshuaTree83]

@@ChaseTheSummit Thank you!

[@lucadel79]

Thank you for the great review!!! It seems they lack ANT+ connection, right?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yup, just like the VERTIX 2 this one does not have ANT+. It seems like more and more devices are moving away from that as BLE sensors takeover the market.

[@kacperprzybysz499]

Great review!

[@ivanarsovski6243]

Great reviews… the best i think…can you please tell me is the pro 2 noticeable larger than pro 1?tnx…

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Nearly identical in size.

[@igorzingpt301]

Thank you for another great review , I have old apex, do you recommend to get 2 or just to get new pod for better accuracy and better pace, for HR I use polar arm band in any case ?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

If you can swing it these new Apex models have a lot of upgrades. I think the upgrade to the display would sell me alone since the older COROS models all have pretty dull displays. That said, it's not something you absolutely need to upgrade if what you have is working but I'd rather spend that $99 that could go to the POD 2 to the APEX 2!

[@th3pimp8392]

I hope with these out the apex (1) will drop in price been dying for the white one😊

[@davidsmountaintrails]

Great review, good info, quick question does the apex 2 pro have a save for later feature or function like on garmin

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It does not

[@sagybp]

Thanks for another great video, Dave. I didn't even know this company existed before I started following you in the beginning of 2022. Seems like a really great watch if you don't need the advanced mapping features of Garmin. Although... What's with the 90's graphics of the menu? 😂 I'm with Garmin since my first running days, apart from a small try with Suunto. I has the 310XT, 910XT then Suunto Ambit 3 Peak, Fenix 5 Plus and now the Epix. In all these years no company was able to keep up with the technology level, app environment and advancements of Garmin. It's pretty amazing how they're still on top with no one really threatening them, when it comes to the really high-end-feature-packed devices.

[@arco9870]

great video, I think that Coros has made a mistake if he wanted to compete with the F955/255 series, with the latest Garmin beta now with Gap wrist power etc. they have nothing to do. A missed opportunity in my opinion.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It kind of depends what you value. If battery life and build quality are at the top of your list these are still interesting options. The Garmin's certainly offer more in the smartwatch, sports, and wellness metrics department.

[@MrOnerider]

I am an owner of Vertix 2. I love so much about this watch but I was thinking of focusing on the one thing I do not like - the rotating maps. I see so little complaints about this and do not have experience from Garmin, so I'm thinking Garmin behaves the same way. What I am talking about is glancing at the watch to see my heading. It's rotating and can take so long time I can't be bothered waiting for it to stabilize. Is it the same with Garmin? I'd love to see a in-depth comparison between watches with maps. Thanks 🙏

[@ChaseTheSummit]

All watches with mapping do this simply because it sort of makes sense? If you turn the map should turn to represent the path infront of you. If it didn't do that the orientation could become pretty confusing. I suppose a setting to enable/disable would make sense if there is a use case when this isn't desired.

[@MrOnerider]

@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for your response! I think I was unclear when explaining. It's rotating despite me standing still or heading in the same direction. I need to hold it up in front of me for 10 seconds or even more before it accurately shows me my heading. I think it has to do with lifting ny hand and tilting it to see the watch face that confuses the compass for quite a long time.

[@NeverFollowTheCrowd]

A little flashy and you wear neon green strap lol would you recommend this watch or fenix 6 sapphire or anything else in the same $400 below range Thanks

[@matthiassventoest6800]

might be time to upgrade from an original garmin instinct 😮

[@nhanguyen3527]

Same thought here

[@pablo_elizalde]

Right on time, and great review, as usual! I do wonder if it's worth upgrading from the Apex Pro though. I'm happy with the battery life and the GPS accuracy right now. I'd like a better HR sensor, and my birthday is coming up, though...😂

[@bencepenzes9069]

Well I don't think so... I've been living in such stress since the announcement that I have to upgrade my watch. Luckily it's not... Both got some updates for sure but I'm pretty comfortable using my apex pro.

[@pablo_elizalde]

@@bencepenzes9069 Yeah, it feels a bit like when they update the iPhone from one year to the next.

[@bencepenzes9069]

@@pablo_elizalde yes indeed 🙃 if I was about to get a coros, then definitely the 2 pro! honestly I'm greatful for this. Imagine, selling my 6 month old pro... 🤣

[@mantiscity]

I went from Apple to Garmin. The two things I miss is that on the Garmin, it never updates my calendar, and it will not buzz when using maps. Does the Apex do these?

[@JesseDriftwood]

I managed to misplace my Apex this fall, but I’m torn on what to replace it with! These look like decent options but the market is so full of decent options now!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

It's really tough at this price point for $499 the Garmin Forerunner 955 offers WAY more features at the sacrifice of being made completely out of plastic... If that doesn't bother you it's probably one of the best values at that price. By the way, I pinged you on IG... Lemme know if you want to hop on the podcast and talk about running!

[@nugetta]

I still dream about original Enduro. Only minus is lack of sapphire glass. I don't need maps or music on watch.

[@toadlguy]

Maybe you need to replace it with an Apple Watch with Find My ...

[@ChaseTheSummit]

At its current price the Enduro is a crazy deal even without sapphire

[@sandorbence2067]

The Apex 2 pro is really good. How is the notification handling on Coros? Is it as good as Garmin? Maybe when the Vertix 3 comes out, I'll give it a shot since the Enduro 2 is so expensive.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

Assuming the notifications are like the pro gen one, it's fairly basic. A quick preview and the option to delete off the watch, or delete all previous. On garmin you have more options and the opportunity to reply with preset messages. I found I literally never used that, so for me it is actually totally fine, but maybe not enough for you?

[@sandorbence2067]

@@scriptosaurusrex Garmin is good enough. All I need is the notifications arriving reliably and that I can read enough of them (like 5 sentences or so). Don't care about replies and all that stuff. But even then this is something that even the popular brands like Amazfit or Huawei just regularly fail.

[@scriptosaurusrex]

@@sandorbence2067 from my experience, I think you will be okay with the coros then! It took me a while to figure out how to set it up properly, but once sorted I have found them quite reliable. And in fairness, between not getting it and eventually figuring it out, I messaged Coros and they got back to me with a clear intent to solve the issues (as I say, I ended up figuring it out!)

[@adamsitak]

Hi, Can you make a comparison video of Apex 2 Pro to Fenix 7? I thought about the new watch for a long time (in place of my old Fenix 3). In fact, I was already decided on the "7" and just waited for the Black Friday promotion. And here is such a surprise. The basic question is is it worth paying extra to Garmin?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Lot's of comparisons coming soon!

[@hendrikmintarno]

Been using the coros apex, i wish they give the apps an update for cyclist. (recovery time, etc)

[@davidhires7403]

I’ll take the better build quality every time. COROS for me.

[@dalemandell2199]

So here's the question...... I currently have the Pace 2 & want to update for mapping. Putting cost aside, what's the better watch in your opinion.......Apex 2 Pro, or the Vertix 2?

[@codyjackson7355]

Well Apex 2 pro and the Vertix 2 have the same mapping experience. Both watches are pretty much the same minus the differences between weight and battery life

[@ChaseTheSummit]

In my personal opinion the APEX 2 PRO kind of cannibalizes the VERTIX 2 because they're essentially the same watch in terms of features. The VERTIX 2 has way more battery life... double in most cases and a slightly bigger display. The APEX 2 PRO has a much better Heart Rate sensor, and overall feels more responsive/snappy to use. Then there's the form factor... Vertix 2 is a BIG watch. Apex 2 Pro is a normal sized watch. The rest, that's up to you to decide!

[@dominicboudreau1746]

I will definitely buy The Apex 2 pro vs Garmin 955 because of the materials. I have à physical work and my watchs as to be solid. And i don't know why but i realy dislike Garmin 😅 mabe because they are to expansive for the materials they put in there watch so for me i prefered to give à chance to Coros. Thanks for this video you arguments convice me to go with them😊

[@ghostpos]

Coros is sort of the Chinese answer to western fitness tech. As a result they offer more 'value' because they are often a bit cheaper to the alternative. Personally I prefer the legacy that other firms in the space have.

[@SkaiSharku]

Would love to see an accuracy comparison within a watch. Having the pro show accuracy with just GPS, all systems and dual band. With the Suunto watch I have (soon to be had), I had to switch to the most basic setting to get the highest accuracy for whatever reason. And dual band has been starting to be standardized, but is it possible that it's more situational?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Dual band is really only useful in dense challenging situations where standard GPS would drift or lose signal (big city buildings, canyons, etc...) for the most part "all systems" is the way to go. I'll have follow up videos on this!

[@niklas1590]

@@ChaseTheSummit would love to see the GPS only vs all systems mode test. The battery difference is massive. Wonder if the accuracy difference is as big

[@mikem4215]

I experienced the same thing w my apex pro. When in gps only the elevation gain and loss is much more accurate and in line w strava. When I switch to multiple GNSS setting on the elevation gain and loss is more off often.

[@SpacelyRockets]

Where did you get your tee at? The bear in a ranger hat? Thank you!

[@ChaseTheSummit]

www.movefreedesigns.com/store/p35/yetirangerheathersage.html#/

[@giovanbattistafichera8439]

My Apex 46 mm crapped out on me all of a sudden. They sent me a replacement watch and this one has a battery that drains too quickly. They're sending me a third watch but at this point, I've almost lost all faith in the longevity of this kind of product. If I invest 300+ € on a watch, I don't want to use it for two years only. I'm not that wasteful.

[@alwaysalonesoki1217]

Weird, the gps wasn’t that great on Desfit and DC Rainmaker

[@ChaseTheSummit]

The majority of my testing is done during trail and road runs while Ray and Des do a lot of cycling testing where accuracy is more of a variable. I can only comment on my use case and findings.

[@Rasv-]

No mention of virtual coaching, structured workouts etc. Anyway thanks for videp. Keeping my FR645M

[@ChaseTheSummit]

That kind of rolls into the part where I mentioned that I'm not going to be addressing existing features. You can learn all about the COROS EvoLabs training hub in some of my other videos. That all applies to these as well.

[@Rasv-]

@@ChaseTheSummit ok, I guess evolabs is likely not enhanced for these new particular watches then. Thanks for your replies you're always very attentive!

[@alancampbell6236]

Almost the same functions as my Fenix 5 plus, which came out more than 4 years ago.....

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Except for dual band GPS, probably a better HR sensor, and quadruple the battery life.

[@alancampbell6236]

@@ChaseTheSummit True, but it has a much better GNSS accuracy than the Fenix 6 (or other watches with Sony Chip), so the advantage of dual frequency is limited (for obvious reasons no influencer does this comparison).

[@sawomirsowik872]

Is Vertix 2 worth of extra money? I think that yes. It's just a nice watch. In the past I had Apex 1 46mm. I was using it only for sport activities. With Vertix 2 it's completely different. I like to have it on my wrist. It's damn good looking :) Like an Alfa Watch 😊

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Thanks for sharing.

[@sawomirsowik872]

@@ChaseTheSummit btw thanks to your videos I discovered COROS. Thanks!

[@mfmeow206]

Hmmm if I had a $500 budget and ONLY wanted to use this for multi day backpacking trips is there a clear winner between the fr 955 or Apex 2 pro?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Depends. Do you want much better build quality and battery life? Or do you want more smartwatch, and wellness features and a more robust mapping system?

[@deanjorgensen5444]

@@ChaseTheSummit When you say, 'build quality' do you mean these Coros are objectively built to a higher standard or are you referring to the materials? Thank you for the great video!

[@mfmeow206]

Follow up (since I've never used a smart watch). Would a Fenix 7 solve this debate as a clear winner? Fenix 6 pro are also in the $250-$300 range on ebay how does that stack up against the fr955 or apex 2pro

[@trailzrock2]

I wish Coros added ANT+ 😢 till they come out with dual or triple channel Bluetooth power meters etc, you can’t use these watches to pair your power sensor, trainer to an iPad and your watch at the same time. It’s a no go for me.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Today I tested the BLE connectivity and was able to pair earbuds, heart rate strap, and COROS POD 2 all at the same time. I need to do more testing to understand what the limits are.

[@trailzrock2]

@@ChaseTheSummit that's not an issue. Try pairing the same power meter to the watch and an iPad at the same time. Or a cadence sensor to the watch and your iPad. The coros can pair with multiple sensors at the same time. Just not the same sensor to multiple devices. As for when i ride indoors, i need that power meter and other sensors connected to the iPad and my watch at the same time. You need ant+ at this time

[@nachot6592]

These are really not that exciting, but they are fairly priced, at least.

[@raihanxzulul2321]

Nylon band durable enough for swimming?

[@Jay-sd9ye]

Submerged water loosens the velcro. I've had mine fail off during swimming. Freestyle.

[@markomanolios]

Great review once again! It's a pity for all Coros watches to be so good (build quality, features, battery, vfm) and so ugly at the same time. Both the watches themselves and the watchfaces are poorly designed with too much branding on them. Anyways, the price is tempting enough to try one of these...

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I don't mind the look but I get it.

[@yewfuh869]

Can it plays music with standard gps on ?

[@rufirufi203]

Please do a video about Xiaomi Band 7 Pro. 🥺

[@kristinjensen5367]

Sorry, but i am still awaiting the Suunto 9 Peak Pro review, Will it not come from you?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Coming soon! So many things!

[@krawkovski]

Seems very thick.. does it bother you?

[@newsnetworkz]

Is the bezel titanium and case plastic?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yep

[@platzs33]

So with no ANT+ I can’t do a chest HR strap, and the Pod2 at the same time? What about headphones and pod2?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

I just tested it. I was able to pair a HR strap, Jaybird Vista earbuds, and the COROS Pod all at the same time with no issues.

[@platzs33]

@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for checking! I was worried about that.

[@nugetta]

Hi... Fairytell about Coros battery... Are they still measure HR every 10minutes instead of 1s like Garmin? 😉

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yep, even with 1 second recording the battery life is still pretty wild. The 10 minute recording doesn't really bother me in non-activity mode since there's not really any use of analyzing that data anyways without tools like Body Battery, etc... Thanks for watching!

[@nugetta]

@@ChaseTheSummit can you summarize "pretty wild" to hours? 😀 But yes almost doubled GPS batter life apex pro/pro 2 is very food. I had original Apex pro and it was very good watch itself. Problem was their poor app with major issues which Coros refused fix during almost year. They mixed hike and run kilometers so these data was useles. Did they fix it?

[@TonyCsoka]

I’m ready to ditch Garmin completely. Their watches are great (Fenix 6 pro owner), cables are shit though, and I’m forever replacing them. The killer for me though, is not to do with functionality, but that Garmin produce and sell shock collars for dogs, and for that reason I wont be buying from them any longer.

[@tomaszwoch8415]

In watch mode, HR measures every 1 second or every 10 minutes?

[@ChaseTheSummit]

10 minutes out of the box but you can change that in the settings. Honestly on the COROS platform there's little value in recording HR every 1 second when not in activities. The platform doesn't do anything with the information.

[@TheCikguSenaman]

Clever moves by coros.. but bad to customer.. 😂😂.. apex 2 is so small, even smaller than my older apex 46… had to choose coros apex 2 pro..😅😅

[@dizi17]

Wish Garmin had multi pitch rock climbing

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Yeah, pretty cool. Though I wonder how many users out there actually use it since wearing a watch while placing hand jams isn't always possible.

[@jamesgourley5573]

Is there card payment? That's one you missed for convinence

[@ChaseTheSummit]

No NFC card payment yet.

[@jamesgourley5573]

@@ChaseTheSummit I think that is a big miss for this day

[@vhaniextv4560]

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