Animators React 11: Mulan, Aladdin, Anime Rock Paper Scissors

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Corridor Crew

Corridor Crew

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@CorridorCrew
@CorridorCrew Жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed Tom and Tony, please take a moment to check out their projects! Animtoon: www.youtube.com/@AnimtoonOfficial Pencilish Studios: www.youtube.com/@PencilishStudios
@nexusyang4832
@nexusyang4832 Жыл бұрын
Yup yup! On my way!!!
@nexusyang4832
@nexusyang4832 Жыл бұрын
Btw, you guys should do a LAN party at big bear again... ;)
@Ganondorf01
@Ganondorf01 Жыл бұрын
Glad you guys stay innovative and creative. You guys inspire me lots.
@Joe-nb3fs
@Joe-nb3fs Жыл бұрын
I was listening to a Podcast (Underunderstood) about the Augmented Reality production of The Masked Singer. It'd be amazing to do a vfx reacts about how the virtual stage is built using Unreal Engine, the virtual audience, and use of the real life lighting controls to feed into the virtual stage.
@binkbonkbones3402
@binkbonkbones3402 Жыл бұрын
I have a science fiction universe I've been writing, do you guys want a franchise?
@thomaschristopherwhite9043
@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Жыл бұрын
I keep saying it over and over again. The fact that disney doesn't have a 2D animation studio anymore is a CRIME!
@eb2681
@eb2681 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry they don't need one anymore. They have AI.
@ShodaiKishin
@ShodaiKishin Жыл бұрын
@@eb2681 Disney hasn't made a 2d film for 11 years. Even Disney knew to move on with times.
@ArifRWinandar
@ArifRWinandar Жыл бұрын
Maybe with AI they will have it again. Just needs someone to show that it's possible to do classic 2D animation for way cheaper using AI.
@Trecherousbeast
@Trecherousbeast Жыл бұрын
@@ArifRWinandarbut the reason why Disney stopped doing 2D had more to do with the general public thinking that 2D is obsolete than budget specifically. It’s not exactly that 2D animation is more expensive it’s that they’re not sure if people will even go to a 2D animated film anymore
@leudast1215
@leudast1215 Жыл бұрын
@@Trecherousbeast That's a uniquely American problem.
@daxitron
@daxitron Жыл бұрын
I can't tell if the brothers are tall or if Niko is short, but he looked like a giddy school kid sitting between adults on that couch 😂
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 Жыл бұрын
I’d say there at lest 6,8”
@PixelConcept
@PixelConcept Жыл бұрын
I think the couch is just getting old.
@micglou
@micglou Жыл бұрын
Both... NIko is short, the brothers are tall... look at 2:20, just the difference in height of the knees, that's like half a foot right there... I think Niko is around 5'8, the brothers are anywhere between 6'5 and 7.
@thatsethfromyourcorner
@thatsethfromyourcorner Жыл бұрын
Ok, that's just so adorable💀
@SnyperMK2000JclL
@SnyperMK2000JclL Жыл бұрын
Well, when you think about it based on age... Niko totally is the excited child sitting between 2 adults xD
@AbolfazlNY
@AbolfazlNY Жыл бұрын
These brothers need their own show to just compliment each other's work. Best animator react episode ever.
@CousinErn
@CousinErn Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to watch them “flip through their yearbooks” so to speak and reminisce a bit 😊
@laurenbee6676
@laurenbee6676 Жыл бұрын
They have a podcast! It's called Bancroft Brothers Animation podcast, they discuss all kinds including their past and current events in the animation world :)
@AbolfazlNY
@AbolfazlNY Жыл бұрын
@@laurenbee6676 thanks! I will look to it.
@willem8820
@willem8820 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see a Japanese animator on to talk about anime but also their thoughts on western animation
@tacklemcclean
@tacklemcclean Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@lucbloom
@lucbloom Жыл бұрын
This needs to be top comment. Extra authenticity points if they need a translator.
@jjstarrprod
@jjstarrprod Жыл бұрын
Ooouuuh, can you imagine if Hiroyuki Imaishi, from Studio Trigger (director of Gurren Lagann, Kill la Kill and Cyberpunk Edgerunners), or his right hand Yoh Yoshinari was the guest !? Have them react also to your A.I.nimation, it'd be interesting to see anime directors react to such a heavily anime classic inspired animation.
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about anime in Japan: everything is anime. Anime in Japan is literally just anything that is animated. Mulan is anime. The Simpsons is anime. Veggie Tales is anime
@KillerTacos54
@KillerTacos54 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic idea
@StylizedStation
@StylizedStation Жыл бұрын
'I've never been so happy and extremely upset at you than at this moment' sums up the past few weeks perfectly
@HoodedSpidey
@HoodedSpidey Жыл бұрын
Sup S.S.!!
@yerboibread4978
@yerboibread4978 Жыл бұрын
it also feels a lot like the ripple effect that toy story had on the industry. it shows the potential but when something large scale made with ai releases corporations are gonna jump all over it for monetary purposes
@lukidjano
@lukidjano Жыл бұрын
So yeah, AI is pretty cool
@xackbellegaming3491
@xackbellegaming3491 Жыл бұрын
@@lukidjano nah ai is gonna be a dystopian nightmare if not properly regulated
@SuzakuX
@SuzakuX Жыл бұрын
@@yerboibread4978 I think a lot of the discourse has come from a place of ignorance (that and Twitter-based commision artists who absolutely are the first up to be replaced with AI). When you're talking about anime, you're talking about an industry where the average animator is doing in-betweens for 200 yen a frame, barely making ends, and is probably never going to have the opportunity to advance in the industry to the point where they can direct their own project. I'm gonna be real: that is not a status quo worth preserving. This AI tech will be used by corporations, obviously. But it's also something that can be used independently by individuals to produce their own high quality animation with minimal time and money, and only a very small team. Where once you needed a team of 20+ animators to spend weeks or months just to produce a single episode, those animators can now potentially produce a dozen episodes in the same span of time, and have the time and opportunity to pitch and produce their own works because the turnaround time and financial overhead will be so much lower. If animators are willing to embrace AI they needn't be replaced by it. Instead they can use it as a tool to dramatically increase the amount of animation being produced, both from major studios and from independent artists.
@BennyBigIron
@BennyBigIron Жыл бұрын
Omg the fact that they actually brought their animation frames is beyond cool. Mega respect
@Awytoo
@Awytoo Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was cool but a little sad. It’s like when you did a school project by yourself with your hands while the other kid was helped by the parents who’s working in science lab with cool materials and machinery.
@TheJegame
@TheJegame Жыл бұрын
@@Awytoo It's not tho, get over yourself
@sam8404
@sam8404 Жыл бұрын
@@TheJegame right?
@ChilledBacon
@ChilledBacon Жыл бұрын
@@Awytoo one had resources and utilized it, nothing wrong with it
@yukilu602
@yukilu602 Жыл бұрын
@@Awytoo dont expect people to sympathize with you here youll get more people like"jerome 092", who are non artists and who have never animated in their lives and dont understand how much hard work goes into it. it is a little sad esp when people like {random nobody with 3 digit numbers} or huge cooperations use it to abuse creative artists but on the positive side, itll be great if us artists can use it to help ourselves be a lot faster with production and maybe even help push the quality since we can use it as a base and to save time
@SushiiBob
@SushiiBob Жыл бұрын
The wholesome, respectful, admiring, and honouring conversations between you three are so beautiful to watch.
@harveule6127
@harveule6127 Жыл бұрын
So funny to see them talk about the ai stuff before it came out. Tom was completely right about it blowing up the internet lol
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын
and boy, did it
@philipevidal2169
@philipevidal2169 Жыл бұрын
And it looks like Niko knew exactly what was going to happen. When he said he didn't want people to think they were "killing" something. Yeah, some next level brain power right there.
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are angry cause they did just steal from using an anime. Look, I think they would have gotten a lot less hate if the source images they used were their own drawings rather than just taking another person's work. That is the key of this whole thing. Also, this ai process isn't the death of 2d animation at all. It's janky and using ai alone is not the way forward. Some hand drawn edits would make it great. But also it's realistic movement. This process can't do more exaggerated movement
@manavsridharan3811
@manavsridharan3811 Жыл бұрын
@@teneesh3376 Yeah, but also people don't really need to be "angry" at them. They are stealing art from a show here, but at the same time, they do say you can make your own source drawings. And it's not like they are claiming this is a massive work of art, just a proof of concept.
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 Жыл бұрын
@@manavsridharan3811 still though. Actions speaks louder than words. They really should have used their own from the start. It really would have made the anime blow up in a less negative way
@5MadMovieMakers
@5MadMovieMakers Жыл бұрын
Crazy that this was recorded days before the animation was released and it summed up the reactions pretty well!
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 Жыл бұрын
dud u like it?
@YoutubePizzer
@YoutubePizzer 8 ай бұрын
twitter lost their shit though, they seemed pretty angry
@5MadMovieMakers
@5MadMovieMakers 7 ай бұрын
@@Sweetdude64 yes I thought it was cool
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 7 ай бұрын
@@5MadMovieMakers 8 months later hey 😂
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 7 ай бұрын
@@KZbinPizzer Twitter has a lot of weirdos on it
@lolzguyl
@lolzguyl Жыл бұрын
I can't recall having heard y'all talk about the movie Atlantis: The Lost Empire. Which also opens the opportunity to discuss its sequel and what changed between the first and second installment.
@TrekBeatTK
@TrekBeatTK Жыл бұрын
The second one was three episodes of a proposed TV dhow strung together. It was made by the TV studio. That’s why it’s different.
@believeinmatter
@believeinmatter Жыл бұрын
Watched it again recently, it still holds up. Worth watching as an adult
@gurrenrodan3801
@gurrenrodan3801 Жыл бұрын
They could probably do a whole episode or more on Disney films and their direct-to-video sequels.
@sockpuppetsami
@sockpuppetsami Жыл бұрын
I just saw Puss in Boots: The Last Wish and there are some incredible animation action sequences. I would love to see an episode of Animators React cover it. Thanks!
@JerryFlowersIII
@JerryFlowersIII Жыл бұрын
It really did have incredible animation. I'm so glad to see this shift in 3D animation to really bring some style.
@JE-zl6uy
@JE-zl6uy Жыл бұрын
It did not have to go that hard. But it did. The Last Wish was a beautiful work of film
@vandread
@vandread Жыл бұрын
I didn't see the exclamation mark at the end of your comment first, so I read it in an entirely awful, demanding and entitled tone!!?!
@Hydraclone
@Hydraclone Жыл бұрын
So much this. The Last Wish was SO good.
@Nick3d1
@Nick3d1 Жыл бұрын
Nervous for Niko and team when he asked for critique on the Corridor anime, but their reactions did not disappoint. That was brave.
@shariniparab9875
@shariniparab9875 Жыл бұрын
It felt like he was a kid and he showed his project to mom and dad😂 just chuckles after they praise him all embarrassed
@Mirage475
@Mirage475 Жыл бұрын
Well no shit its not even animated its Ai generated
@StefanCreates
@StefanCreates Жыл бұрын
@@Mirage475 Even though it wasn't technically animated, in a lot of ways it still resembled animation in the approach. Saying it was just ai generated is doing it a disservice imo.
@Satsujinki1973
@Satsujinki1973 Жыл бұрын
@@StefanCreates Nah, calling that shit animation is doing a disservice to all animation. And how is calling it AI generated when it is literally AI generated anything but facts?
@Bmodoart
@Bmodoart Жыл бұрын
​@@Satsujinki1973 ah yes the entire thing was ai generated there's literally no other work that went into it
@NickyG-NZ
@NickyG-NZ Жыл бұрын
I gotta say i absolutely love these two brothers talking each other up, they're clearly very proud of each other and it's really heartwarming
@monecue9891
@monecue9891 Жыл бұрын
Good they actually got an animator to react for this!
@Ponyeta
@Ponyeta Жыл бұрын
yeah, not just twitter bots
@HoodedSpidey
@HoodedSpidey Жыл бұрын
@@Ponyeta Twitter is actually so frustrating, they’ve presupposed anything to do with AI is immoral. Even if all their “fears” were quelled AND the databases were perfectly ethically sourced, they’d still cling to it being morally wrong. I used to hate AI art until Corridor’s Spider-Verse video, and my mind was changed. These Twitter artists are clearly in denial at this point, their minds won’t ever change.
@btafbm
@btafbm Жыл бұрын
I don't like that Nico didn't address the controversy whatsoever though (I know this was filmed before tho)
@plinkclearsyou
@plinkclearsyou Жыл бұрын
@@HoodedSpidey cry about it no talent andy
@DreamFearless
@DreamFearless Жыл бұрын
@@btafbm why would he? Nothing illegal happened, no one’s been harmed. He’s doing his job, twitter is doing it’s.
@jayncoke
@jayncoke Жыл бұрын
@17:16 Love seeing the mix of pride, humility, embarrassment, and validation in Niko's face after getting such well-deserved praise from icons in the animation world!
@brettlucas5564
@brettlucas5564 Жыл бұрын
He is like a kid whose parents told him with all sincerity that they are proud of him and his works. He encapsulates pride, nervousness, and humility. It's very endearing.
@karlgustavholmbergasmussen5184
@karlgustavholmbergasmussen5184 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how surreal it would feel to be compared to Toy Story in regards of groundbreakingness
@AmericanAvenue
@AmericanAvenue Жыл бұрын
Right? That’s high honors from a Disney animator.
@TeryJones
@TeryJones Жыл бұрын
Really puts this whole halloballoo with "AI Art" into quite the sobering context, how this overreaction is just the third time it has happened _(if you count rotoscoping)._
@KanyeT1306
@KanyeT1306 Жыл бұрын
@@TeryJones I imagine so many people back then were expressing a similar "oh, CGI is going to kill all our jobs" vibe without realise that it is just an opportunity for more jobs.
@mickconnor88
@mickconnor88 Жыл бұрын
​@@KanyeT1306 Oh yes I remember it. It was a huge outcry about CGI.
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula Жыл бұрын
@@KanyeT1306 Shit, "video killed the radio star"
@itrynottolie
@itrynottolie Жыл бұрын
mad respect for showing this to animators before anyone else. I love you work and I see the skill that went into it.
@ATVOffroadFurry
@ATVOffroadFurry Жыл бұрын
I want to emphasize the importance of “booger animation“. About four minutes into this video I realize that these two gentlemen quite literally shaped my childhood and the way that I view movies and media in general. I’m a huge nerd when it comes to film and anything with a plot but I can’t recognize enough the most important element in all of my upbringing with that, which was thematic representation done with love and care. even if you’re a booger animator. those two guys genuinely loved doing the ‘grunt work’ which is what made every scene, in all of those old movies, so collected and together. they felt whole because everyone’s whole heart, in each individual part, was fully being used. the ambience that that created shaped how I see perfection and see quality in movies and TV. I just really want to thank them so much for caring about their jobs even if they were doing the booger shots. it’s all so important and I feel like so much media nowadays isn’t care for in that same respect and it needs to be, even if it takes time.
@Spiker985Studios
@Spiker985Studios Жыл бұрын
I honestly enjoy Niko explaining the process behind the video -> animation conversion. Because it's not just "press a button". You would ideally have an artist or several make the character profiles. Make the styles. The breakdowns. And then transfer that into the dataset. You need background artists to provide the stylization. 3D artists to make the environment. You need compositors. People who specialize in vfx. Sound design. Costumers. Make-up artists. All of the different jobs that are in use right now, are still required. And are still needed. This workflow allows for more efficient use of time, on all fronts
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun Жыл бұрын
It's still a very rough workflow, but I'm glad that the philosophy is understanding AI as a tool, and not as a replacement for the human touch. The worrying part, however, is that without all the grunt work necessary (since the ideal thing would be for AI to replace all the repetitive drawing), a lot of personality might be lost in animated movies. Small things that these two brothers have shown, like spending a week on perfecting the way a hecking door opens, or the way a parrot's eyes squint when it talks, may be lost in translation, so to speak. AI is also quite limited in this use, since producing fantasy and making it "believable" is something only humans can do. Making others believe a talking animal, or a moving lamp... or maybe a whole surreal landscape, or an entirely made-up creature, is a part of the artistic craft that relies on psychology and our understanding of eachother. So that's another front AI won't be replacing any time soon. Basically, efficiency can mean a great lost in the unique touch that all that "inefficiency" actually brings to art. But I guess I'm just too cautious.
@Spiker985Studios
@Spiker985Studios Жыл бұрын
​@@YouMakeMyMotorRun Something that I would like to see is this process applied to a 3D render. Not just like the background, but an animated 3D object. Because that would then provide a consistent look for the underlying base shapes, and should presumably be more likely to be more consistent. Lighting and shadows, the subsurface scattering of skin, the transparency of skin, pores, hair, clothes - all of that stuff has more innate randomness irl than within a 3D render. Overall, I'm just really excited to see dedicated tooling be built around this idea, because the barrier to entry can become a lot smaller, and that can empower people who might otherwise not make content (for better or worse) and I think that's neat
@jaymarshbank3862
@jaymarshbank3862 Жыл бұрын
VFX, Stuntmen, and Animators React are the most anticipated videos of my weekend. Thank you for the content, guests and Corridor. Magnificent bastards.
@DimIsHigh
@DimIsHigh Жыл бұрын
I don't think I'm able to even start to understand how proud and happy Niko must've been by hearing two giants praising him like that. They said some truly amazing stuff, it's crazy how much admiration they visibly had.
@Nerdnumberone
@Nerdnumberone Жыл бұрын
Here's how I picture the next generation of animated movies to be made: - Profesional animators draw what amounts to a style sheet, render some settings, and otherwise create reference material for the AI. - The story is sketched out in different scenes, either by being acted out in live action, sketched in a rough style, maybe with key frames, and possibly just pupetted in wire frames. Likely some combination of these is used. This is all about telling the AI what is happening, letting it fill in the style. - The reference and scenes are fed into the AI to create the initial animation. Basically, this is what sweatshop foreign animators would be used for now. - The AI output would then need to be edited by human animators, to add effects, composite elements together, and fix the little errors that are so common in AI generated content. There will still be significant work for human animators, some of which are little different from the current process. The biggest change is replacing grunt work with an AI. This would mean that big productions would have little use for entry-level animators, but it would allow less experienced animators to make feature-length films with a smaller team and budget. This could be a significant boon for animators who want to make their own stuff, but it would mean fewer animators can claim the small part of history of drawing a door in a famous movie they worked on at the start of their career. There would also be a greater volume of work coming out if a dozen people could make an animated movie in under a year, rather than taking an army of animators.
@Johnnyb3g00d
@Johnnyb3g00d Жыл бұрын
Fantastic take, completely agree.
@Emiltecknar
@Emiltecknar Жыл бұрын
Lol so you mean a junior straight out of the gate with No experience Will just go and make a big protject and on top of that never working in the industry having noting to show for it try to attract investors are you serious???
@AndreoliAndroid
@AndreoliAndroid Жыл бұрын
That would create a choke point and stifle new animators talent. My fear is that the fundamental skills of art and animation will be lost if we rely to heavily on the easiness of AI. There’s also a level of job satisfaction that comes from drawing from scratch. I can tell you that paintovers of someone else’s work (or an Ai’s in this example) is far less creatively satisfying than working up your own work. I think that would be the same for a professional 2D animator. I can see an appeal for using these tools and a possible resurgence of 2D animation and making it a more viable option again for studios, but it can’t come at the expense of losing the fundamentals and stifling new talent, before they’ve even had a chance.
@kingknightisbestknight7398
@kingknightisbestknight7398 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be shit. I completly agree with you. AI should never replace any Job a Human can do better
@smartguy8219
@smartguy8219 Жыл бұрын
these guys have such a nice energy.
@AdrenalineJackie
@AdrenalineJackie Жыл бұрын
They seem like such genuinely nice humans!
@MDMZ
@MDMZ Жыл бұрын
I came here to see the reaction of traditional animators to AI, and I wasn't disappointed, they took it really well because they know how good their craft is and they value innovation at the same time.
@StellarJay77
@StellarJay77 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying this since AI art hit the scene, professional artists are going to learn to adapt and start using this new tool to make some truly spectacular new art.
@xbyte00
@xbyte00 Жыл бұрын
They took it really well because they're already well stablished in the industry and wealthy, I wanted to hear what a novice animator had to say about this.
@anonnymous7009
@anonnymous7009 Жыл бұрын
@@xbyte00 A novice animator should be thrilled. There are many people that are too old to change, as a new kid you can now break through - if I had learned animation instead of tax law (yea I know), and translate my current job experience to an animator experience for this thought experiment - right now I could cite additionally to my animator degree and 6 years of experience: Stable Diffusion since September 2022, experienced in all its possibilities and even 5 of its most used add-ons. I have 5 months, 10 hours a day, of self taught experience over anyone else - I could probably teach everyone in your company how to use it. I'm going to safe you millions and give you an edge against your competition or if you don't take me, help your competition to get an edge over you, so I value my work at 250k/year. I already hear it: "But you only put in words" - To get what you want exactly, it's way more difficult of a program to learn than Photoshop. And those photoshop workshops are already not cheap. Having cutting edge experience in Stable Diffusion could make you into an animation legends whose name will be known 40 years from now as one of the great ones.
@Satsujinki1973
@Satsujinki1973 Жыл бұрын
@@StellarJay77 Except it is literally not art.
@adriankwok1406
@adriankwok1406 Жыл бұрын
@@Satsujinki1973 Alright then, professional artists are going to use this new tool to make some truly spectacular new media.
@gregsmw
@gregsmw Жыл бұрын
honestly i think this shows how much thought niko and the guys at corridor actually put into the AI animation they put several months of effort into it, testing it making sure it worked, only revealing it when they thought thye had something worth showing he braught top tier animators on, and only released it publically AFTER he got some face to face opinions from artists in the business, the way hes talking to them here, he genuinly wanted them to be happy about it, that he wasnt trying to replace them but help them and he knew how much backlash there would be and how many people would be against it it wasnt just some "tech dudes" jumping into an art scene and trying to replace people with tech, there was genuin thought, effort and care put in
@lorddoom9
@lorddoom9 Жыл бұрын
This was probably my most favorite react episode. The brother's literal enjoyment and awe at the Anime RPC video was amazing. I would hope that they asked to work on a joint project with you all. They could supervise your entire team on how they would do it. That could add a wonderful layer of training on Corridor.
@brianbagnall3029
@brianbagnall3029 Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome. And get someone professional to write a short script to base it on.
@Vesohag
@Vesohag Жыл бұрын
Cool idea!
@MarcLovallo
@MarcLovallo Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an Animators React episode with Genndy Tartakovsky and all of his projects.
@kaioabatie1058
@kaioabatie1058 Жыл бұрын
^^this
@DavidConant
@DavidConant Жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you got Aaron Blaise on the couch for animation.
@nodisalsi
@nodisalsi Жыл бұрын
Looks like the invite has been sent… [edit to add]!!!!Aaron Blaise has already done a react video to the Anime Rock-Paper-Crossblade on his Channel "Art of Aaron Blaise"
@schebbi
@schebbi Жыл бұрын
Aaron is from Florida, I think.
@HoodedSpidey
@HoodedSpidey Жыл бұрын
@@schebbi crowdfund his plane ticket? Or not, corridor is already filthy rich.
@schebbi
@schebbi Жыл бұрын
@@HoodedSpidey I don't know, they have a big place to rent, lots of equipment, and tons of people in their team. The money runs thin on like 11 or so people.
@cindyespindola4946
@cindyespindola4946 Жыл бұрын
Aaron already reacted to this in his chanel, though I would love to see him in the couch as a guest and talk about his experiences as well.
@userrand2127
@userrand2127 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the shots from the Anime Rock, Paper, Scissors, the close up on Dean's face as he says "LET'S FINISH THIS!" is the most captivating
@Vesohag
@Vesohag Жыл бұрын
Not a close up, but yes!
@32BitJunkie
@32BitJunkie Жыл бұрын
Does commenting "whatever" on every positive comment chain make you feel big?
@ZeZwede
@ZeZwede Жыл бұрын
absolutely love that part :D
@DaanGroenProductions
@DaanGroenProductions Жыл бұрын
Everytime I see that shot I see Jim Carrey in that face (e.g. The Mask performance)
@AnuViRuS
@AnuViRuS Жыл бұрын
Red line vibes... so cool
@--_V_--
@--_V_-- Жыл бұрын
Nico, you ask great questions. I really love this series talking to traditional animators. Keep up the great work!
@FoolSilver
@FoolSilver Жыл бұрын
I am very happy that they went more into the process of making that video. Niko definitely holds high respect for animation and I appreciate that a lot
@reclarcer9069
@reclarcer9069 Жыл бұрын
A movie I loved as a kid was The Pagemaster with Macaulay Culkin. I could also go for some breakdowns of some Don Bluth animations.
@cpl.barbarusc4814
@cpl.barbarusc4814 Жыл бұрын
Holy Molly, that's the first time I hear someone talk about "The Pagemaster" in a very positive way, incredibly enough I haven't seen it on DVD or Blu-Ray, luckily I have the VHS still intact.
@qwerty4134
@qwerty4134 Жыл бұрын
@@cpl.barbarusc4814 Ill watch it cuz of these comments
@LizzardGirl713
@LizzardGirl713 Жыл бұрын
I never owned the VHS, but checked out from the library every time I saw it on the shelf. That, Cats Don't Dance (which they have reacted to), and James and the Giant Peach were my favorite movies growing up.
@reclarcer9069
@reclarcer9069 Жыл бұрын
@@LizzardGirl713 I loved Cats Don’t Dance and James and the Giant Peach! Rock a Doodle Doo was a good one too.
@celesteelka
@celesteelka Жыл бұрын
Oh man, Pagemaster is SO good
@Wico90YT
@Wico90YT Жыл бұрын
The twins pumping up Niko over the RPS short was great.
@SolWake
@SolWake Жыл бұрын
RPC*
@aggrogahu
@aggrogahu Жыл бұрын
21:44 this is the biggest thing that separates the high effort artistry that Corridor created with ARPS from some random person using low effort AI art to sell for commissions.
@Riggs_The_Roadie
@Riggs_The_Roadie Жыл бұрын
Well, that and that no single person has all of their equipment, studio space, budget, combined expertise, etc. Making the "democratization" aspect of AI pointless.
@arreca09
@arreca09 Жыл бұрын
@@Riggs_The_Roadie you can record yourself own on your phone and use a laptop for the AI aspect, sure It would take longer but not as long as drawing frame by frame.
@SamDotGov
@SamDotGov Жыл бұрын
@@arreca09 at that point just rotoscope it, it would look a lot more cleaner compared the the mess that you would get with AI
@kuromiLayfe
@kuromiLayfe Жыл бұрын
@@SamDotGov you do know that majority of rotoscoping nowadays is done using ai,right.
@SuzakuX
@SuzakuX Жыл бұрын
@@ramonandrajo6348 Yeah, Rotobrush 2 in After Effects uses AI / machine learning algorithms now.
@Shining4Dawn
@Shining4Dawn Жыл бұрын
I just gotta say it has to be amazing to be Niko in this video. Just sitting in a couch between the Bancroft brothers and watching animated clips and having them show you their original pencil work... Sounds like every junior animator's dream.
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 Жыл бұрын
The mad lads actually did it, this is why i love Corridor Crew.
@NeonFraction
@NeonFraction Жыл бұрын
I think Tom and Tony really nailed it: You cannot make this if you are not an artist. This is so clearly an animation tool, not a replacement for artists.
@betapotataOld
@betapotataOld Жыл бұрын
Most people are fine with the technology itself, it can absolutely be a tool for artists but the way it’s being used right now (laion-58 dataset, corridor scraping an old anime’s style, etc) is unethical and very potentially illegal
@absta1995
@absta1995 Жыл бұрын
@@betapotataOld It's not illegal lmao. There is derivative work and transformative work, only the former is illegal. The animation corridor crew created was clearly transformative.
@betapotataOld
@betapotataOld Жыл бұрын
@@absta1995 No laws have been set in stone yet but so far court rulings have been in favor of artists, (ai generated images cannot be copyrighted). There’s no telling what laws will be enacted and what about ai will change. This may not be considered transformative as they trained a model on screenshots from the anime without permission. We don’t know yet because this technology is so new and, again, no laws have been made in regards to it. I will add though, something can be transformative and still fall under copyright infringement. I don’t think that would apply here but I recommend watching corridor’s own video going over the legality concerns with ai image generation if you haven’t already.
@CamJames
@CamJames Жыл бұрын
@@betapotataOld animating something that was filmed in real life that uses the "style" of an existing anime is the best possible use of this tech. there's no stealing happening here at all.
@betapotataOld
@betapotataOld Жыл бұрын
@@CamJames using artists work as training data is unethical at the least but, for the third time, lawmakers have not yet ruled whether using copyrighted material in training data is legal or not.
@384evonkey
@384evonkey Жыл бұрын
The camera panning back and forth between tony and Tom while they react to the AI cartoon is pure comedy
@RedRipeRaspberries
@RedRipeRaspberries Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s 89, but I would love to hear an animator’s insight into Akira. One of my all time favs.
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula Жыл бұрын
They already did Akira with an animator. Probably going to want a specific scene if you want them to do it again
@blvdes
@blvdes Жыл бұрын
i wish they'd reacted to the side by side with the real shots
@poopypuppy9412
@poopypuppy9412 Жыл бұрын
They released it after everything so they probably didn't have it ready sadly
@asherwilkins465
@asherwilkins465 Жыл бұрын
You gotta love how much credit they gave Niko and his team for making such a great video, dont usually see that
@mattkidroske
@mattkidroske Жыл бұрын
Would love to see animators react to Secret of Nimh or other Don Bluth animated movies
@wirelesmike73
@wirelesmike73 Жыл бұрын
THIS, 100%!!! Amazing animation.🤩
@linaskvedaras
@linaskvedaras Жыл бұрын
They literally have an episode on that :)
@mattkidroske
@mattkidroske Жыл бұрын
@@linaskvedaras can you tell us the name of the episode or share a link? I've searched for it and don't see it, but would love to watch it.
@stefd75
@stefd75 Жыл бұрын
Even Dragons Lair
@DreamFearless
@DreamFearless Жыл бұрын
Original Sketches from the Disney renaissance?! 🤩 My whole childhood. I almost expected them to glow like Marcellus Wallace’s briefcase.
@LaurelFuentes
@LaurelFuentes Жыл бұрын
My dad was an animator/director for many of the Nickelodeon cartoons of the early 2000s (rocket power, as told by ginger, Rugrats, etc). The animation style was always so stylistically different than Disney. Would love to see those cartoons discussed!
@heesoo18
@heesoo18 Жыл бұрын
These two guys animated my childhood
@dumptruck2184
@dumptruck2184 Жыл бұрын
You mad men actually did it. absolute legends
@ToneeRhianRose
@ToneeRhianRose Жыл бұрын
I originally thought Ralph Bakshi had created the rotoscoping technique cause he used it in some (if not all) of his movies, but apparently it was Max Fleischer! If you're unfamiliar w/ his work, he's the 1 who created Betty Boop! Her dance moves were rotoscoped from dance routines Cab Calloway (the jazz performer) did. What you did w/ it in your anime is really cool!
@daxbradley4346
@daxbradley4346 Жыл бұрын
If memory serves, he also did those wonderful Superman cartoons of the 40's
@leecody5885
@leecody5885 Жыл бұрын
Your memory serves!
@ToneeRhianRose
@ToneeRhianRose Жыл бұрын
@@daxbradley4346 Yup & also Popeye! And the 1939 animated Gulliver's Travels!
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 Жыл бұрын
What a great pair of guests. Their reaction to the "AI" animation is interesting.
@luciferspal
@luciferspal Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. These guys are awesome. It made me so stoked to see how excited they got
@indig0icee
@indig0icee Жыл бұрын
These two have to be my favorite interview on this channel so far- despite having never heard of them before, I was so entertained. Their energy is infectious and their work is so meaningful for so many people.
@MyNamesComics
@MyNamesComics Жыл бұрын
i love how everyone on twitter were saying "yeah show one of your animator friends this and they'll disown you" but they did show animators the video and they love it lmao
@fancydino0425
@fancydino0425 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you guys cover Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind they have some really well animated scenes. The open scene where she rides on the glider is breathtaking
@mutedmayday
@mutedmayday Жыл бұрын
Dang the coincidence. I just finished watching it yesterday
@kane7475
@kane7475 Жыл бұрын
I just watch Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind and It was the most Humble and Beautiful movie I've ever seen 10/10 at best
@ventusfox
@ventusfox Жыл бұрын
Oh and don't forget Princess Mononoke, with that scene of Ashitaka battling the infected boar god across the fields and looking at BOTW Zelda they took heavy inspiration for that scene if you have seen the first reveal trailer for that game, would love to see them react and break it down all together
@davadh
@davadh Жыл бұрын
Watch The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, the animation and techniques are incredible
@lunatickgeo
@lunatickgeo Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing it in the 80s (the Disney version where she was Princess Sandra I think) and I couldn't understand her pacifistic stance. I had to grow older (and read the manga) for me to fully appreciate the strength and depth of her character
@madilynsingleton7978
@madilynsingleton7978 Жыл бұрын
Rightfully so, it looked like Niko wanted to cry when both of those legends just immediately started flooding him with compliments and congrats. Dude I wanted to cry.
@Kjleed13
@Kjleed13 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you got animator react for your rock paper scissors anime. I guess it comes down to intention and control.
@FUBARguy107
@FUBARguy107 Жыл бұрын
I love that they both had a slightly different reaction too! One is in awe as the other is crumbling. I agree with both of them. I enjoy the slight issues of the AI, like the shadows jumping and moving. It gives a little extra life to the face, in my mind, as if there are subtle muscle twitches and maybe candles flickering.
@supremebirb
@supremebirb Жыл бұрын
rock paper scissors is kinda a mix of boiler line/watercolor/oil canvas animations its very nice
@kjfhyg5uy5urugfgxgjd
@kjfhyg5uy5urugfgxgjd Жыл бұрын
So do people not know that their "animation" isn't their animation at all? Do people just not know what it is?
@Kjleed13
@Kjleed13 Жыл бұрын
@@kjfhyg5uy5urugfgxgjd I’m not sure what to call this style. It’s like Loving Vincent film (rotoscope animation), but instead of hiring painters to copy Van Gogh you hire Ai.
@BrotatoeGod
@BrotatoeGod Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how, in about 30-40-ish years, you went from hand drawn animation to computer animation (mocap suits and more) and more yet to come
@AlexDiaz-gw5ov
@AlexDiaz-gw5ov Жыл бұрын
100 years from one set up hand drawn minimal animation that had to be projected to be reproduced and had to be musicalized live in a piano to now you being able to animate inside a 3D engine like Unity or Use AI and a green screen.
@ProxyDoug
@ProxyDoug Жыл бұрын
And to think that a decade and a half ago, you had people telling stories with edited footage recorded on a video game. Animation is a boundless medium.
@Krelet
@Krelet Жыл бұрын
Not quite 90's, but Titan A.E. is one of my favourites.
@bombappetit
@bombappetit Жыл бұрын
Exhale. What? Exhale!
@jamesramos5442
@jamesramos5442 Жыл бұрын
It's a little emotional for me watching the pride in Nico's eyes as two legends of animation absolutely laude his experimental project to the point of comparing it to Toy Story. That's gotta feel good.
@kjfhyg5uy5urugfgxgjd
@kjfhyg5uy5urugfgxgjd Жыл бұрын
Big yikes considering that it was completely and utterly plagiarised and devoid of any skill or talent.
@AllTheArtsy
@AllTheArtsy Жыл бұрын
Too bad it was only achieved through intellectual property theft
@jamesramos5442
@jamesramos5442 Жыл бұрын
@@kjfhyg5uy5urugfgxgjd Tell me you didn't understand the technique without telling me...
@jamesramos5442
@jamesramos5442 Жыл бұрын
@@AllTheArtsy Oooh can i get "People who don't know what they're talking about for $300 Alex"
@lieutenantdiamond5601
@lieutenantdiamond5601 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely trust these guy's professional opinions on the AI Animation controversy far more than all the Twitter rage.
@hteekay
@hteekay Жыл бұрын
I always see A.I as another tool to help with the process than a tool to replace.
@Optimus_Bull
@Optimus_Bull Жыл бұрын
Agreed. At lot of people claim that AI animation is gonna make artist & animators jobless, but it really isn't that simple. They forget that the AI itself can't just whip whatever you think of. Or it can, but it isn't necessarily a good or polished result that could rival the real deal. It still takes artistic vision and skills to bring everything together so that it looks decent and presentable. Corridor Crew just proved that with the BTS video about their animation that they still had to do a lot of tuning and cleaning to the animation. It actually isn't that far off from what Tom Bancroft explained about needing to do a clean-up pass because multiple artist & animators won't be able to draw the characters 100% identical. There are inconsistencies. And the AI has those same types of inconsistencies when you at look at Corridor's AI animation. It even has more inconsistencies than the human ones that was described about Pocahontas.
@nougatbitz
@nougatbitz Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love their stunned reactions. This must have been a sweet moment for the Corridor Crew! Congrats!
@StevenIngram
@StevenIngram Жыл бұрын
The thing I find to be creative about Rock, Paper, Cross Blades is that they were able to successfully harness the AI. Generally, AI is like a wayward genie suffering from a concussion. So, what you get from it when you make your wish (give it a prompt) tends to be a little addled, and if you generate another image from the same prompt you get something different. The creativity here is in that they bottled the genie. Got it to produce frame after frame of consistent results for thousands upon thousands of frames. That really isn't a simple task. Remember, the genie has a concussion and generally can't stay focused. LOL :D
@StevenIngram
@StevenIngram Жыл бұрын
Oh, and if you have doubts that Corridor Crew are creatives. If they were academics or researchers, they'd be writing a paper about this. Its title would be something like: The Impact of Random Seed and Noise Constraint on Visually Generative AI Algorithms in the Production of Animated Sequences.
@THEFORGO10
@THEFORGO10 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you guys view over old cartoon network shows, samurai jack, KND, Billy and Mandy; sure the process wasn't as complex as a disney film of course, but that in it of itself makes it interesting, what corners to cut to produce dozens of episodes, and the upgrades when it came to make a "movie" episode, love the content guys
@mopilok
@mopilok Жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be sick
@Zaire82
@Zaire82 Жыл бұрын
Samurai Jack was the most artistic animated show to ever air. It took ages for a season 5 and it was really weird compared to the previous 4 seasons, but I greatly enjoyed the show overall.
@sludgiebear
@sludgiebear Жыл бұрын
Beauty and the Beast was the first movie I remember seeing at the cinema when I was a kid. I was around five years old, eating my chocolate raisins and all snuggled into a front-row seat, and I ended up crying right there into my raisins because the film moved me so much. 🥺😆 That film, as well as the likes of Aladdin and The Lion King, defined a significant part of my childhood. Thank you for giving me fantastical stories to grow up with! I used to sit for hours drawing the characters. I became pretty good, but I think I've lost all my sketches now. I'd love to see those original sketches and drawings!
@gerardosuarez1451
@gerardosuarez1451 Жыл бұрын
A “game developer reacts”, or “game designer reacts” reacting to cinematics, game art,etc. would be super cool, being a future game designer myself, I know that someone like that could bring so much to the table, and it would create another series with maybe another set of viewers, I don’t know, I don’t have a KZbin but I would LOVE to watch that c,:
@JanbluTheDerg
@JanbluTheDerg Жыл бұрын
Even just being able to play sections in games, I mean stuff like the magic of Minecrafts music (and creepers), the events leading up to DOOM 2016's title drop, Portal 2, Half-Life etc.
@ccthomas
@ccthomas Жыл бұрын
Check out "VFX Artists React to Bad & Great Video Game Cinematics!"
@YayaFeiLong
@YayaFeiLong Жыл бұрын
The trouble with that is that game design/development isn't a field Corridor works in
@morphi9983
@morphi9983 Жыл бұрын
(It's usually Animators working on video game cinematics and scenes, not the devs.) speaking as an animator
@gerardosuarez1451
@gerardosuarez1451 Жыл бұрын
@@YayaFeiLong but if they invite experts could be cool, I’m not saying it would work flawlessly but I would be really cool.
@mgabbard
@mgabbard Жыл бұрын
A 90's (well very end of 90s), non-Disney animated film to look at (and the last feature from Fox Animation Studios) - Titan A.E. Interesting mix of hand drawn 2D animation and CG animation directed by the legendary Don Bluth.
@41illusion
@41illusion Жыл бұрын
100% agree. Titan A.E. is another stone cold classic from the legend himself Don Bluth.
@carloshbello
@carloshbello Жыл бұрын
Still think about that movie too. The animation was crazy.
@peterp4k
@peterp4k Жыл бұрын
As an Asian American, I immensely appreciated all the love that was apparent in the creation of Mulan and how it portrayed a strong Asian female character without resorting to offensive stereotypes for cheap laughs.
@TeenPerspektiva
@TeenPerspektiva Жыл бұрын
Unlike the new one, right?
@timel0rd57
@timel0rd57 Жыл бұрын
These two veteran animators recognition that Nico and Corridor's achievement is as groundbreaking and revolutionary as the first Toy Story movie, from animators who were there working in industry when it happened, wow, what a compliment.
@Trancilian
@Trancilian Жыл бұрын
I’m hoping you guys can get Aaron Blaise on the show. He just did a really cool reaction vid to your AI Animation. There are also a lot of great youtube generation animators like Don Hertzfeldt, Baman Piderman, asdf etc
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
Would love to see them get my man Chluaid (a Newgrounds legend who is STILL working on Brachenwood) and a couple of the other OG's of internet animation to react to the newer KZbinr folks. I think that'd be pretty fun and almost as impactful to the zoomers as these traditional animation episodes are for us millennials.
@dia.96
@dia.96 Жыл бұрын
They could probably get Dan Povenmire too, he's very active on social media. Seems like a cool dude who loves talking about his work and the love for animation
@LostCityExpeditions
@LostCityExpeditions Жыл бұрын
Man these 2 guys were such a key part of many of our childhoods!! Super cool hearing some background stories on their work, thanks for bringing them on.
@samwashburn6823
@samwashburn6823 Жыл бұрын
It would be pretty awesome if for your next AI animation you literally hire them to do the reference drawings.
@Wonderbeast
@Wonderbeast Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was actually shocked to hear that you only needed a sample size that was fewer than a hundred stills just to compile a character for AI. I fully expected that number to be in the thousands. 50 is a much more achievable collection, especially if you are on a lower budget for your project. Like Niko said, make it about accessibility. I agree with you, they should come up with an original style for another full project to show it doesn't have to be derivative to some already existing work.
@HahnKirby
@HahnKirby Жыл бұрын
That would be so freaking cool to see them hire different animators for reference drawings to show that this is all possible without stealing a thing.
@Cdudesproductions
@Cdudesproductions Жыл бұрын
Had this same exact thought the moment Niko said that. That way there's no question: the drawings are being made FOR the AI, there's no ripping off/stealing/plagiarizing of anyone's work.
@ProxyDoug
@ProxyDoug Жыл бұрын
@@Wonderbeast It's what I've been saying for a few months, since the main complaint about AI is that it steals from artists, we should be seeing market places popping up where artists can sell their models to be used for projects like this. This is the birth of a new art form, it would be horrible to see it being squashed by outrage. As an added bonus, we would probably see more artists developing unique art styles to differentiate themselves.
@SwordTune
@SwordTune Жыл бұрын
​@@ProxyDoug While paying artists to make custom image sets would be the solution, it's still not a new art form.
@PatrickBergensen-kali-yuga2005
@PatrickBergensen-kali-yuga2005 Жыл бұрын
I’m quite surprised how many people hated the ai stuff. Twitter was crazyyyy.
@jasonpreston2703
@jasonpreston2703 Жыл бұрын
I can understand why. Its seen as a threat to peoples livelihoods. I think there will always be work for good artists and animators even working with ai. Also there will always be an appeal to knowing something was made by another human. I get it but it's not really fair to blame corridor
@kingdomkey63
@kingdomkey63 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because animators are treated like shit already and this is only going to make it worse
@ShodaiKishin
@ShodaiKishin Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people just on the Anti-AI train and Corridor is just latest stop for them. Using AI for anything, they try to strangle whoever did it. Many I've seen come cough out responses acting like the entire video was made by putting in lines for a result rather acknowledge all the editing, filming and xfv works that went alongside the AI part, emphasis on part. They see the tree with label of AI generated visual and think that's the whole forest.
@HoodedSpidey
@HoodedSpidey Жыл бұрын
There’s nuance to the discussion. AI can be used as a tool for artists, *or* it can replace the artist. The images used to power these programs can be sourced ethically or unethically. The tech-bros and AI-phobes are two sides of the same coin. One side can be simultaneously naive and heartless towards animation workers, the other is hopelessly critical of the technology, refusing to see any upside. I pray once people on both sides see the *reality* of the situation, we can come together and discuss how to properly handle AI as a tool rather than throw it away or crush creatives.
@mocmocmoc13
@mocmocmoc13 Жыл бұрын
From what I'm seeing, designers working in agencies and artists working in indie design houses are loving AI cuz now they can minimize labour and maximize creativity. It's mostly the "work from home" type designers and "buy my stuff" etsy artists who is hating AI.
@IceSlushi
@IceSlushi Жыл бұрын
Watching animation legends compliment your style and contribution to art must feel euphoric.
@spectorthecritic1723
@spectorthecritic1723 Жыл бұрын
"their style" bruh they stole the style from an existing anime
@PHIplaytesting
@PHIplaytesting Жыл бұрын
@@spectorthecritic1723 Only specifically the drawing aesthetic. Everything else was Corridor.
@switz
@switz Жыл бұрын
@Perfect Human Interface "only specifically the drawing aesthetic"?? Lmfao, so, everything about the way each frame looks? What a ridiculous thing to say. This is especially egregious, considering that most anime is derived from its manga counterpart, which in turn is typically drawn, written, and designed by a single person. Like, the entire point is that the style and aesthetics are intrinsically tied to a single person. Replace this style with DragonBall instead and think about these guys claiming they made their own anime lol
@jackkunasaki5044
@jackkunasaki5044 Жыл бұрын
@@PHIplaytesting isn't that aesthetic called cell-shading?
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 Жыл бұрын
@@spectorthecritic1723 The style is not what they did, it's the technique. The style can literally be anything, it doesn't have to be copied from somewhere else
@PrismHeartOfficial
@PrismHeartOfficial Жыл бұрын
would love to see an animators react to "Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro" ( I believe is the name, alsoI thnk Summer Wars, Wolf Children, and a bunch more have been left off and are totally open for a whole episode!)
@swagless6719
@swagless6719 Жыл бұрын
Summer wars deserve love it's a great movie
@analyticequals
@analyticequals Жыл бұрын
Preach! Castle of Cagliostro is my jam!
@TimTE01
@TimTE01 Жыл бұрын
I think Miyazaki worked on that one.
@Megabooy1
@Megabooy1 Жыл бұрын
This episode was an absoluter banger I got chills from their reactions and I went and watched the whole movie again which ALSO gave me chills AGAIN. SO GOOD. no way you are killing anything you just turned a new page and once again the sky is the limit. Hoping to see much more like this in the future.
@Ralnakor
@Ralnakor Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see you guys look at Titan AE! It's still to date one of my absolute favorite animated movies that incorporated 3D animation, and still holds up reasonably well!
@travholt
@travholt Жыл бұрын
Have to say Niko is killing it as a host!
@MartinRadio2
@MartinRadio2 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see more reactions from experienced studio animators reacting to your ai animated short.
@shariniparab9875
@shariniparab9875 Жыл бұрын
This has to be on KZbin
@MartinRadio2
@MartinRadio2 Жыл бұрын
@@shariniparab9875 there are some already but I could always watch more, it’s a very interesting topic , AI animation and the different reactions people have (both positive and negative)
@OneAndOnlyYesMan
@OneAndOnlyYesMan Жыл бұрын
“This is going to blow up the internet” you can say that again
@KickassCrusader
@KickassCrusader Жыл бұрын
not sure if this will be seen by you guys, but I know that people have been blasting on twitter the Rock Paper Scissors video was "stealing" and I just want to say that you guys took a source you loved and appreciated from an art style to make something new with that and I will always think that is the best thing
@NEOREV_MUSIC
@NEOREV_MUSIC Жыл бұрын
Twitter is a cesspool
@eajae26
@eajae26 Жыл бұрын
Ah Twitter the land of the cancel culture, unfounded accusations, and a wasteland of porn and toxicity. Get out while you still can.
@KickassCrusader
@KickassCrusader Жыл бұрын
@@NEOREV_MUSIC facts, thats why i avoid it unless another article links to a post on it, its a field of rotting brains
@TimTE01
@TimTE01 Жыл бұрын
@@KickassCrusader Ad Hominem. Don't address the points- They 'made' Animation that already existed- and just attack Twitter. Yawn.
@KickassCrusader
@KickassCrusader Жыл бұрын
@@TimTE01 maybe it is better to just not acknowledge it overall, since most people that do seem to fair far better, but i just appreciate overall seeing new art come from something at any rate since it means more new things existing that otherwise wouldnt
@suicune2001
@suicune2001 Жыл бұрын
AI is still based on pre-existing content. So you still need an artist to actually make content. No AI should be stealing someone else's work to make their art then sell for a profit. Vampire Hunter D had the art style they wanted. A way this could be achieved morally is an artist will have a library of their work and they can license it out to someone who wants to do AI art. Also, looking at those drawings of Iago, I don't see how AI art could ever do something like that. His face and the cartoon exaggerations of his motions could never be captured by an AI. I could see where this could be a cool project for a small studio or even group of friends who can't draw or animate well but you still need artists to make the style you want. It's only fair they get their share for their contribution to your project.
@markoconnell804
@markoconnell804 Жыл бұрын
I loved their reaction to the work you all did to make your rock, paper, cross blades short.
@Tyler.McGrath
@Tyler.McGrath Жыл бұрын
I really want to see this AI tech in the hands of an animator to see what level they can get out of it. Technology, experience, and technique all coming together.
@pintolerance785
@pintolerance785 Жыл бұрын
I really want to see this AI tech in the hands of a corporation. So that way we very animator can get fired and we can instead just get all of our animations done by AI. That'd be perfect.
@yerboibread4978
@yerboibread4978 Жыл бұрын
thats what i was getting at in another thread lmao, future's gonna be weird as fck but pandora's box has in fact been opened so we might as well see where it takes us
@BenExell
@BenExell Жыл бұрын
​@@yerboibread4978 it's gonna take us to a dystopian nightmare, I guarantee it.
@yerboibread4978
@yerboibread4978 Жыл бұрын
@@BenExell yeah probably 💀
@cmsj
@cmsj Жыл бұрын
@@BenExell you're thinking about this all wrong. AI tools are productivity multipliers for skilled practitioners, they are not replacements for those skilled practitioners.
@s_hiv8255
@s_hiv8255 Жыл бұрын
Some 90's animated movies in anime that would be cool to look at - End of evangelion(1997) - An icon in it's medium Perfect blue(1998) - A masterwork in editing Mobile police Patlabor 2(1993) - Some of the best mech animation I've ever seen Jin-Roh : The Wolf Brigade(2000 close enough) - Some of the best and most realistic character animation to come out of Japan Princess Mononoke(1997) - A Ghibli Classic
@heywrandom8924
@heywrandom8924 Жыл бұрын
Cool! Thanks (:. I saved most of them to check later.
@scoutart1508
@scoutart1508 Жыл бұрын
@@heywrandom8924 not to mention Quest for Camelot, Mask of the phantasm, swan princess, and the original space jam
@heywrandom8924
@heywrandom8924 Жыл бұрын
@@scoutart1508 nice (:. Thank you i am going to add those too (:. I am not sure what you meant by original space jam? The one with Michael Jordan or is there a space jam before that?
@scoutart1508
@scoutart1508 Жыл бұрын
@@heywrandom8924 obviously there has always been one classic space jam, unless you are talking about the hybrid commercials that inspired to craft the movie
@scoutart1508
@scoutart1508 Жыл бұрын
@@heywrandom8924 by the way, i would also recommend some fascinating spanish animated films, likeplanet 51, klaus, and the works of Enrique Gato , especially the hidden gem capture the flag
@HyperManic1000
@HyperManic1000 Жыл бұрын
It feels so good to hear the brothers talk about how Corridor are artists. Especially after all the backlash this past week
@mindecolonia
@mindecolonia Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was so angry about all the negative comments. I didn't get it. They put so much work in it. AI was just a tool.
@shambles3935
@shambles3935 Жыл бұрын
@@mindecolonia they also did NFTs so I have no respect for them and don't believe they use shiny new things as a "tool".
@YouCaughtCzars
@YouCaughtCzars Жыл бұрын
I feel like the main controversy with AI generated animation isn't so much the useage of AI, it's the training it with the work of other artists. AI art in general is controversial because it's taking other people's work to create something.
@ovum
@ovum Жыл бұрын
It's definitely part of the Pandora's Box: Stealing. But in the hands of someone making artistic choices, I think they're onto something and should let them "cook".
@YouCaughtCzars
@YouCaughtCzars Жыл бұрын
@@ovum I'd like to see studios and artists who decide to pursue this technology to create a back catalogue of their own assets, which I feel is the logical step for the whole thing. I own enough concept art books for different video games that would be a treasure trove to train an AI, and I think treating it look a tool to create something rather than supplant something would be the best path forward. Think of Jurassic Park where the stop-motion artists and physical prop artists and puppeteers were concerned the invention of 3D rendering and animation would completely make their work obsolete, but they ended up combining the strengths of all of it to create something that holds up to this day. The stop motion art created references for the animation team, and the animation team only filled in scenes where animatronics couldn't move feasibly while using the real world props as lighting and texture references to blur the two together. I feel it's equally important to celebrate the work and ingenuity Corridor put into this animation and technology while recognizing the ethical concerns while everything is still in its infancy. Instead of using stills from Vampire Hunter D, for instance, they could commission an artist to do the reference drawings that the AI would train from. It gives work to an artist and makes the entire process in-house. That sort of thing.
@eg0zb
@eg0zb Жыл бұрын
@@YouCaughtCzars I mean.. Tbh when spider verse came out, every one tried to do that style for a while, is it also stealing?
@32BitJunkie
@32BitJunkie Жыл бұрын
Yeah this AI isn't doing anything human artists aren't; all humans learn art by studying art and rip off styles constantly. No one says anything about most anime looking the same or most 3d movies looking like pixar
@YouCaughtCzars
@YouCaughtCzars Жыл бұрын
@@eg0zb What you're describing is more like how Corridor has tutorials to teach how they did something. What I'm describing is, without permission, taking somebody else's work, combining it with other people's work, and having a machine produce something that is a haemonculous of the images that were used. The important distinction of why it's seen as unethical is the lack of consent. You spend hundreds, thousands of hours creating and publishing art, and you absolutely would feel slighted if you saw somebody post an image that has distinct aspects of a piece of work you created because somebody typed a couple prompts into a generator. Obviously this Corridor thing is a lot more complex, but if they trained the AI with any other anime than Vampire Hunter D, it would have looked *completely* different.
@michael22414
@michael22414 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they gave the reactions they did to your AI work. You guys are really bringing it back to the old freddiew/corridor days of once again bringing INNOVATION to youtube. You guys have always been the first ones to try out some new style that could be presented to a mass audience and this is probably the most groundbreaking work you all have done.
@oddlycuriousdeer
@oddlycuriousdeer Жыл бұрын
what if a person wants a career in animation?
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 Жыл бұрын
@@oddlycuriousdeer Adapt to the new technology present, learn to maximize it to its maximal potential in regard to the craft, and be aware of the risks of taking a job involved in the unstable job position of the arts.
@thomasv804
@thomasv804 Жыл бұрын
@@oddlycuriousdeer You know, when I was a kid, I wanted to be a switchboard operator. Every time you, or anyone heard that dial tone, you were putting another knife into that kid's dreams. As it turns out, however, switchboards are still a thing, they're just digital now, and I learned how to use them. Making IVAs, automatically routing calls, setting up that little "this call may be recorded" message when you call a customer support line, and using intent analysis AI (from like a decade ago) to get people where they need to go is still in demand. That was my job till I moved on to greener pastures a few months ago. When that work gets replaced, something else will come up. On the off chance everything gets replaced during my lifetime and there's no work to be done, I might take up gardening. Sure robots can already grow vegetables faster than I could ever hope, but I won't be doing it to be "the best", or even doing it because I need to work to survive. I'd be doing it because it makes me happy.
@BlazeMakesGames
@BlazeMakesGames Жыл бұрын
@@thomasv804 Yeah like as numerous other critics have already pointed out, this is far from the highest quality animation even with all the touchups that they did. And the fact that they lifted the style guide from an existing show instead of something original does push some things to a dubious ethical standpoint. But even as the technology improves and whatnot, the fact of the matter is that a human still has to design the show and make decisions about writing and shot composition and effects and everything. And there will always be touchups and such that might need to be handled manually. Even if within the next 10 years the tech advances to the point where we get rid of all the meathands and the flickering and whatnot, it's going to take much much longer before you can just have an AI come up with great cinematography and gripping narratives on its own, unless we end up developing a fully sentient AI of course but then we have bigger problems. And of course, this technique is still very limited even if we assume maximum advancement to remove the jank. For example what if your animation takes place in a fantasy world with non human characters? Sure maybe you could paint up a guy to look like an Orc or a halfling with a bit of effort, but what if you want a character to be a 6-armed fish man? Or a giant dragon? or just anything that doesn't quite fit the standard human body plan? Not to mention that even if we restrict the concept to just human characters, what about if they want to do anything superhuman? Sure they could have probably made some of those walk cycles look a little better with a simple treadmill, but what if they were actually fighting with magic powers or superhuman feats instead? Suddenly you're gonna need to do wirework and add even more custom effects and just add so much to the shooting side of the process that you might as well just animate it traditionally at that point. Doubly so if you then go on to have non-human characters doing that. This technology is far off from the idea of just punching in some keywords and then watching a fully animated movie out of nowhere. It is still extremely heavily limited and I think it's a long far cry away from any kind of actually replacement of animation, unless your animation is simple enough that you could shoot it all in live action with just some people standing on a green screen.
@angelferreiradg
@angelferreiradg Жыл бұрын
BRO, they are loving the attention they are getting on Twitter right now. Love the hustle.
@kumaradio5414
@kumaradio5414 Жыл бұрын
The problem with AI is not that they're using it as a ttool, is more like corporations will look at it and use it to make a quick buck and not pay animators more
@ktgame2640
@ktgame2640 Жыл бұрын
That's not their problem, that's going to be a problem no matter what
@dcfighter14
@dcfighter14 Жыл бұрын
Them reacting to the rock, paper, scissors felt weird. Like there was a weird tension of them saying it looked amazing but how its gonna steal jobs. I was hoping they would go in harder and talk about why it's bad for artist or how it doesn't look that good from an animation aspect. Also, there's corridor again saying how controversial AI art is but not actually discussing what side they are, why its controversial, or the moral dilemma of it. Just says oh yeah, its controversial now look at this animation we did that is "all" AI art/animation that we made a huge amount of money off of.
@jeeroylenkins6625
@jeeroylenkins6625 Жыл бұрын
Yea it's v clear that they want to say more but held themselves back
@DarsterB
@DarsterB Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a breakdown of A Scanner Darkly. Interesting blend of animation and live footage, especially considering the time period it was made.
@nodisalsi
@nodisalsi Жыл бұрын
Would love to see animators react to video for Salvatore Ganacci's "Fight Dirty"
@chugetnuget6230
@chugetnuget6230 Жыл бұрын
SAME.
@TheJerbol
@TheJerbol Жыл бұрын
I love Salvatore, his videos are always an experience
@clementfermn6711
@clementfermn6711 Жыл бұрын
Literally a walking LSD in human form
@duffthepsych
@duffthepsych Жыл бұрын
Good discussion at the end there!
@Angellance7
@Angellance7 Жыл бұрын
Niko pointed the most important thing about the whole AI talk... it's not about the tool, but the person behind it, so give animators the job to make by hand the whole world/characters around a animation and let AI build upon those materials so they don't have to make ten of thousands of drawings. That's how you use it without taking the jobs from people and allowing evolution to walk in through the front door, moral compass people moral compass.
@sethmossberg7045
@sethmossberg7045 Жыл бұрын
You included a clip from Prince of Egypt, but I would love if you dove into that a bit more, or more generally, that style of 2.5D animation that was so popular back then, like in Treasure Planet, or Curious George
@russschweizer8880
@russschweizer8880 Жыл бұрын
What a great episode!! Two brothers in the industry and at the Mouse! What a teasure to have them on your show. To see the joy of what they accomplished and the love and respect they have for each other. They're part of the foundation all of us have built on. It's so awesome to see people who just love what they do come on your different episodes and share . What you guys do at the Crew is fantastic! Don't ever stop. ❤️
@shipuden978
@shipuden978 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever recomended The Trigun remake for these animation reacts? I feel like it deserves a look. It blew my mind
@richardsmith5803
@richardsmith5803 Жыл бұрын
Best 3d stuff I've seen.
@Dr.Spatula
@Dr.Spatula Жыл бұрын
Probably not as the season isn't even over yet
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira Жыл бұрын
It's too bad they completely ruined the story.....
@shipuden978
@shipuden978 Жыл бұрын
@@Sammysapphira People say that because of everything being revealed so soon. But most people fail to understand the imense amount of change in pace that has happened to anime since then. Nowadays no 90's anime would compete in popularity because it would seem to slow. I think the change was fair for what it is. its still great. I doubt any studio would want to commit to years of animation for a reboot just to keep the same pacing... knowing that the attention span of viewrs just isnt there anymore. Modern anime need to adapt in order to succeed
@jordankarasek3907
@jordankarasek3907 Жыл бұрын
That was a real joy to watch. Love how you just tacked Anime RPC onto the end for them to casually watch.
@IssaMeMariooo
@IssaMeMariooo Жыл бұрын
One thing I never really enjoy about the content on this channel is the lack of real constructive criticism. It seems like whatever content anyone at Corridor creates will be praised and will be given the weird between-the-legs clap parade even when there are obvious and often jarring issues with said content that go unmentioned. The final version of 'Rock, Paper, Crossblades' is not something that any real animation studio would consider as anything beyond a rough prototype. The facial expressions are disturbing at times, the shadows and the lines are jumping all over the place, I literally didn't even notice that playdough blob was supposed to be the king until it was mentioned later in the video. Yet here we are, with 2 of the world's most credentialed animators on the couch, and they still are acting like this is the best animation they've ever seen, going as far as saying they're about to CRY. I wouldn't be saying this if Niko didn't specifically call it a "full product" and emphasized that it wasn't a simple test shot. I genuinely appreciate the effort put into every video you guys create, but I think it would benefit everyone if you reacted a bit more realistically to the stuff each of you makes.
@TallicaMan1986
@TallicaMan1986 Жыл бұрын
You haven't watched enough animation if you don't think they could get by with this.
@ChilledBacon
@ChilledBacon Жыл бұрын
What’s nice about the ai animation, is that it’s easy to implement (to an extend) and cleanup wouldn’t be too bad. I don’t think it would kill true 2d animations, but create a completely new style of animation for tv shows and indie films
@backfischritter
@backfischritter Жыл бұрын
And with human animators you can ramp up the quality of the endresult. So there will be a changed workflow for animators even in the ai animation field.
@Dumitaz
@Dumitaz Жыл бұрын
They are awesome, and I love their vision about the AI animation, from real pros with experience and not some random keyboards warriors.
@adil0028
@adil0028 Жыл бұрын
Yess. That's what. AI in animation will definitely be a game changer, but it doesn't mean that modern 2d animation will die out. If anything animators are getting more tools on their hands
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