Corrupter Protocol | Lore and Theory

In this episode: we discuss the recent emergent lore following the first recorded Infection of a Spartan by the Flood, and how MJOLNIR armor responds to it.
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[@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803]

15:20 The following below was copy and pasted word for word from the Halo Waypoint Intel 1: Gallows which goes more into dept on Mjolnir anti - flood counter measures. WARNING: FSC SIGNATURE DETECTED ALERT ENERGY SHIELDS DEPLETED; ARMOR BREACH CONFIRMED SPARTAN COMPROMISED . . . FSC INFECTION CONFIRMED . COUNTERMEASURES INITIATED . . . . \HYDROSTATIC GEL LAYER PRESSURIZED . . . SUCCESS \GALLOWS DATALINK SEVERENCE . . . SUCCESS \BEGIN REACTOR DETONATION . . . FAILURE . . \CODE INJECTION DETECTED \COUNTERMEASURES CANCELED BECOME \ARMOR BREACH SEALED \ENERGY SHIELDS RECHARGED BECOME \ARMOR SYSTEMS REPAIRED UNITY. SWEETNESS. As can be seen the Spartans Mjolnir Armor attempted to detonate its micro fusion power plant but was prevented from executing it by the flood itself.

[@teamancilla6226]

This story was so chilling and a perfect treatment for the Flood. I only wish we had more!

[@jrwilliams4029]

I was wondering when you were going to cover this after being apprised if it’s existence on HiddenX. Glad you are covering it.

[@plaguenotprophet7840]

With all Spartans in the field scattered, and the flood returning, the time has come for all Spartans to return to combat. We must reunite, to stop the end of all things

[@KantoKait]

14:45 lol, or they coul have, almost random, Fusion pack detonations. 15:30 we got there. Will this be the theme of the battle royal, that's in the works?

[@RandemFellow]

The Mjolnir tried to detonate, but the self destruction was neutralized by the infection form. And the brain was destroyed by the gallows protocol, but the infection form still managed to survive.

[@danmullen6744]

I thought the implication of having the suits reactor meltdown was “we know the floods gonna use the Spartans body to stack bodies no stopping that if it happens, but this at least puts a timer on the flood forms usefulness” I think oni understood a flood infected spartan was endgame for the species so all the contingencies prior to the meltdown are just to make the Spartans body a little less useful for the flood in the meantime the armour lock won’t stop the flood but it at least slows it down a bit blowing up their head hopefully limits the usable Intel from the Spartans memories and the meltdown puts a timer on how long they can use them as a combat form, in saying all that yeah we know the flood can change physics they were trying to jump start a slip space drive in Mona Lisa I wouldn’t be shocked if in lore yeah they can just stop the meltdown logic plague or domain magic 😂

[@Impartial_Sojourner]

The GALLOWS procedure is exactly designed to prevent a Keyes-level situation. The suit was also attempting to initiate a self-destruct sequence, but somehow, the logic plague was used to circumvent that. There is a blurb on Waypoint that supports this. Which is wild because I thought only the Gravemind could do that at a certain level of growth, but crimony, that's terrifying.

[@BoisegangGaming]

Yeah, the Flood manipulating technology the same way they manipulate biomass is probably the scariest part of the cosmic horror. Nothing is safe. Everything can be corrupted.

[@debbiebernhardt5406]

Code damage must of occured. The flood could reck the code of any ai, including Cortana. The system was breached right before failsafe engaged.

[@commanderjason7786]

I'm kinda surprised 00 didn't mention this. I assume he probably didn't see the Waypoint post? I don't blame him for missing it, it's mixed in with the other season Intel stuff.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

I heard once that at a certain level the flood has all aspects able to inject the logic plague as they’re just another extension of the central intelligence so maybe there is one around or once gained the rest are able to do so… alternatively these being flood from before the halo firing seemingly protected by the ship could mean they kept access to the ability despite the loss of all key minds. Alternatively all are able to and the necessity of a grave mind is a misconception

[@matthewchristian9591]

Ok so why didn't anyone hit the manual self destruct switch on the suit that one cant be stopped. Also yes only graveminds can use the logic plague combat and infection forms dont have the iq to do this. So either this is a non canon story which is what i believe. Or and this is the worst option there is already a gravemind here and no one knows it.

[@razalfraz6618]

To me the head bombs were definitely an asset denial for information and to hopefully destroy the neural-link to the armor

[@odinulveson9101]

Yup. Perfect and logical cover for utter extermination of both flood, spartan, evidence

[@orionriftclan2727]

If I remember, the nuclear fusion reactor can detonate as a failsafe

[@thewerdna]

​@orionriftclan2727 which in the first lore drop there was suit diagnosis from an infected Spartan that said the fusion reactor detination failed

[@orionriftclan2727]

@@thewerdna oh dear the Precursors, welp that's bad

[@matthewchristian9591]

​@@thewerdnayeah but there is a manual self destruct switch on the suit why did no one use it?

[@TaliaDaFawx]

to be honest, it was foolish for the Special Forces branches in Halo to assume their Guillotine Protocol would stop a Spartan from becoming infected. If they really wanted to be thorough, the whole body needs to be disintegrated to prevent the Flood from making use of any biological material needed to help it spread. The Guillotine Protocol is just extremely flawed to the point where I wonder if the ones behind the protocol just watched a bunch of zombie flicks and assumed that the head was the part needed to be intact for the Flood to spread

[@derekmensch3601]

Honestly it feels like duck and cover for me. Purely there for the user to feel safe

[@ambiguumspectatoremespecta9803]

The purpose is to deny the flood sensitive information known to the spartan. Remember that when the flood takes over a host it not only hijacks their body but also assimilates the hosts knowledge into it's own hivemind collective. The purpose of destroying the Spartans head and therefore brain is to negate that factor from occurring.

[@warriorshedge6772]

As is the lore.. Logic plague from my understanding, controls AI, not premeditated algorithms. How does the flood super cell break through mjolnir? Not the pod, the microorganism! What was dumb, was sending in a small team to handle a "who knows how big" infected asteroid.. And of course incompetence is what releases the flood again, the captain of the ship wants fucking glory.. From beating what the forerunners couldn't.. I don't like this return. AGAIN, BRINGING THEM BACK IN THE MULTIPLAYER MAKES NO SENSE, the flood is an iconic cinematic threat that deserves proper screen time, not some bullshit trailer which shows nothing of the flood's return.. What a fucking travesty, why does no one talk about that, halo fans used to give death threats for getting the shotgun color wrong, now you guys have.. Effectively become cod and battlefield fans. Just a controllable populous

[@Evan_Wingerter]

I feel its more for the flood to be incapable of stealing the memories and knowledge of a spartan

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

​@@warriorshedge6772 Yes, I feel there should have been a bit more of a response. But death threats are never acceptable. Do not complain about their absence.

[@ParkerClements-jb3cu]

It's low key comical that the protocol for dealing with the flood essentially boils down to a war crime exclusive operation

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

The captain in this story made my blood boil. Captain Keyes went through one of the most horrific deaths in the entire franchise to protect the galaxy from the Flood, and this prick spat in the face of Keyes and every other hero who died stopping them and put the whole galaxy at risk just to fatten his wallet.

[@111Tommyg]

that and Jenkins

[@slicer940]

13:48 I’ve mentioned this in past videos but can we highlight just how smart the flood is, even in its opening stages? It lured the marines into the facility in Halo CE, ambushed the 2nd squad- Closest to the exit and also covering any retreat. And took down the 2nd pelican without alerting any of the marines that were with Keyes and Johnson. Then they lured the Chief into the same trap. Lastly they realized how important the captain was and made it a priority to get to a ship with him partially infected and away from any combat, and then placing him under heavy guard. If that isn’t horror idk what is. And it’s shame it’s never really touched on by the lord or KZbinrs to that depth.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

Likely due to the flood already having a proto gravemind by that point so they were in the coordinator stage giving them the ability to think.

[@malcolmsaint]

And this is mentioned to be feral flood. Ill be using your comment to highlight how intelligent they are even at the stage of being feral.

[@starsilverinfinity]

I mean, thats kinda what happens when the Flood gets even a modicum of information - I would say its less "The flood are smart" and more "the flood knows how to capitalize on any intel". Any marines they turned would immediately have the battle plans in them turned against them - they would know of the evac pelicans, the importance of various personnel, the location of anything important those marines had been too (assuming the marine knows of course), etc. Then they immediately moved to make sure they can get more intel to fill the gaps in their infoweb Feral flood coordinate with pheromones and are said to not be very coordinated, but really it just means they simply b-line for more intel as soon as they get that first drop

[@ReachStudioPro]

As a Flood expert myself, it delights me when I see people noticing these traits from them. It's like the feeling of not being alone anymore.

[@marissadougal5125]

@@malcolmsaint it’s moments like this you understand truly why the forerunners were so scared of the flood and took such drastic measures.

[@captain_arbiter3167]

Something critical you forgot to note that in the Gallows intel drop among the lines a code there’s a line that say “Nuclear Fusion Cell Detonation……… FAILED” I think that’s implying there is in fact a countermeasure to destroy the suit but the flood infection was able to stop it.

[@Nope-dk4sh]

The suits had/have a self destruct failsafe to stop the tech falling into "hostile hands" doesn't it?

[@spirit1643]

It sure does have that failsafe. It's been a long while since I've read the books, but I swear they mention that ability to destroy the suit.

[@Commander_Appo]

That’s what I was going to comment

[@nestorgamer9746]

@@spirit1643 yeah during Operation First Strike, when one of the Spartans assaulting the Unyielding Hierophant gets killed

[@jaredvillhelm2002]

@@nestorgamer9746 came here to say this

[@crota6233]

hype loved saturn devouring his son, my favorite part was the dude thinking about whether or not he could run from the unsc or accept his court marshal

[@stray4244]

I think the flood were able to interface with the suit and turn off the hydrostatic gel layer being pressurized. It did turn off the suit's self-nuke protocol, I imagine it could disable the layer if it could do that.

[@DaddyHensei]

The suit tried to blow but the flood compromised the failsafe. The head bomb is a back up to be sure that at least the most critical piece doesn't fall into enemies hands. It's really pretty smart, on humanities part. They hedged their bets by including another method of self destruction. At the end of the day, all the flood will walk away with is a stronger meat puppet, compared to other combat forms. Spartans are tough but it's their mind that's the real force multiplier, without they're just a stronger combat form in fancy armor.

[@RuzzyID]

Usually the Flood try to prioritise killing Spartans over infecting them because majority of the time it's too difficult due to the augmentations and it takes too long, so they'd rather kill them.

[@sasukeoftheleaf3179]

I loved Saturn devouring his son, it was an amazing story and I really want a continuation!!! As far as theories go however, I have a few. It’s possible that the flood has already infiltrated the suits systems. I say that because even the text in the "Rusalka" armor kit states "CORRUPTER, UPSILON, no not for you" which makes me think the flood manually stopped the rest of the suit from being destroyed. Not only that but I’ve reason to believe (even if this wasn’t that important) that the Spartan in the rusalka armor was the first to fall. That being because the visor is literally split open, as if it exploded but failed to fully break the helmet. I’m not sure if all of fireteam leviathan was infected as it’s rather ambiguous. Anyway, just my thoughts, great video!!!

[@devonwarnock2625]

Thanks for this upload while you're going through so much. Your community is always here for you bro.

[@Installation00]

I appreciate that. 😊

[@halolasomaster3900]

I'm glad some people recognize Halo Wars lore

[@FTSARES18]

A Spartan is a terrifying thing to behold but it was only a matter of time before one became infected they way I look at it of course ONI would want to keep that under wraps

[@Sebastianguitar01]

On the Halo lore, Spartans II John 117 and Jerome 092 were almost infected, but were saved by Cortana & Serina before the flood managed to pierce through their armour after their shields got depleted, and that was in both cases with Mark V armour that wasn't designed for flood encounters. This short story game me thoughts, maybe the spartans IV encountered forerunner flood forms or even pure forms like tanks, juggernauts or else thst were able to infect them, the only certain thing is that there's a condor on the lose with 4 infected spartans IV floods that can start a new outbreak if this story is handled properly.

[@thesuperstorm4940]

A message is heard over all UNSC communication channels the message repeats: Corruptor is engaged, Corruptor is engaged

[@remipearce597]

Not only the fact that the Spartans have key information thay should not get leaked but by blowing the head you also destroy the ai core in the Spartans helmet, the ai while rare are potentially the single worst thing the flood could infect with the logic plague, as found by the forerunners

[@JV-lz3jd]

Listening to the story there were a lot of factors that led to the Spartans being infected and it was the fault of the captain for disobeying The ship’s AI warning to send a spartan team to try to reclaim the forerunner ship . Even though they had Hellbringers and cyclops units as backup but it was still not enough to save them.

[@asimovstarling8806]

The uncomfortable answer, the one every spartan alive dreads, Is yes. And that answer is already staring us in the face, waiting for us to stare back.

[@PackHunter117]

*I feel really bad for the Spartan. That’s one helluva way to die.*

[@MaxsonAtTheFort]

Technically the Spartan is still alive, he’s conscious while he watches in horror as his body goes on a rampage against former friends and allies.

[@egcarbone2410]

@@MaxsonAtTheFortI mean his brain is a pile of singed viscera, he’s not alive

[@MaxsonAtTheFort]

@@egcarbone2410 He’s still talking in his mind though, kinda how Keyes was when he was being absorbed into the Proto Gravemind

[@stray4244]

@@MaxsonAtTheFort Or was that the other guy mentioned in the story? The miner we follow got infected. Or maybe it was one of the other Spartans that got infected? There was more than one I think.

[@egcarbone2410]

@@MaxsonAtTheFortno, the person having an internal conflict is Julian, not the Spartan.

[@PhilipMcCrotch]

343 need to wise up and get the flood back into the campaign

[@dovahkiin7253]

We'll be waiting a LONG time, if it happens at all

[@odinulveson9101]

Prepare to wait looooooong. They dont got the spine to it yet. Perfect excuse? " We ( M$ too even ).. we will make H.I multiplayer the best it can be.. so um yeah you asked for it, so no more campaign stuff since we need to draw the resources from their department.. oh and NO more live service cinematics and story telling either! Take that nagging fans! " 😂 just overexxegerating... still....

[@joshsmith923]

Something maybe overlooked... what happens to a Ai that is paired to an infected spartan?

[@noahzuniga2079]

Oooohhh, i wonder? Could it make the infected even more dangerous? We know AI will fall to the logic plague. But an infected spartan paired with a logic plague afflicted AI. That's a scary thought.

[@ajgunemm]

Logic plague I'd guess

[@bable6314]

@@noahzuniga2079 It's unlikely that the Flood could infect a Smart AI with the logic plague fast enough to prevent that AI from detonating the armor's fusion reactor.

[@noahzuniga2079]

@@bable6314 that is most definitely a good probability

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

​@bable6314 we know the flood was able to stop the armor from denoting it's reactor.

[@woodsyjones]

Halo lore just brings me immense joy. It feels necessary as a part of my life it means that much to me!!

[@GModBMXer]

So it seems the only thing this protocol wanted to accomplish was delaying the Graveminds memory absorption in the end. Its incredible how well-thought the Halo series is. Factoring limitations, solutions and overall goals.

[@bleachedshadow9981]

A regular human marine infected by the Flood is enough to send chief flying if he gets a hit off. A Flood infected Spartan would be actual hell on Earth or any planet it’s on.

[@hellbentstudios8721]

I really liked that ending! Was rather haunting. One thing I think is terrifying about an infected spartan isn't the strength but the SPEED of them. If they can just about keep up with a Spartan II then imagine what they could theoretically be capable of. Not to mention combat speed. Their strength, combat speed enhanced with spartan augmentations would probably exceed that of Mjolnir armour, as in just punch straight through it lol. Imagine a tank from H3 with the speed of a combat form, evasion of a infector form and strength to one shot you. Real scary stuff...

[@Human_01]

Informative! That was both fun and immersive to listen to. Great job on the video. Kudos!✨👏👏

[@I_dcd]

You know looking back on what you described here. The post Halo 4 era would have been actually perfect for a galactic wide exploration of the Halo array in the games. You could still implement plenty of enemies such as put out of contact rouge covenant groups in rare encounters, the sentinels itself with their wide variety of varient classes, and most importantly the flood being a main centerpoint of threat due to outbreaks occuring due to mistakes from inexperience with containment protocol. Overall it would make for a fitting plot to explore the bigger picture of this universe and the games finally shedding light on the precursors as well. Even future events following Infinte still has the opportunity to explore these possibilities.

[@joeycampbell940]

Honestly ive always thought a glassing followed later by a railgun barrage would be great flood control while leaving the earth mixed enough to repopulate the area shortly afterwards.

[@divorcelawyer8352]

You know, I feel it would have been smarter to set off a 2 stage detonation. First the head is destroyed to 100% guarantee that the flood won’t get info out of the spartan, then have the rest of the armor or at least the chest cavity explode, neutralizing it’s ability to fight.

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

Probably will be the last well executed and interesting expansion of the Halo lore. At least they’re going out answering a few lore fan questions.

[@konahrikb1578]

Why don't they just set the armor's reactor to self-destruct in the event of flood infection, like the Chief did to Grace-093 after she was killed by Brutes during Operation FIRST STRIKE? The resulting explosion destroyed the entrance of a power complex on the Unyielding Hierophant, and that was a Mark V suit, so Gen II's reactor overloading should instantly vaporize the wearer and any infected tissue immediately.

[@markaword1561]

Spartan 117B reporting

[@CKATNISS]

This would seem to be the very first flex of practice of epsilon and corrupter

[@NorthSeaRaider]

I think 343 would be stupid to not use this as a way to introduce the Flood into the main games.

[@MoonMorningstar]

Ahhh yes, I to remember when Humanity in Halo learned the tech of "MASS Accelerator Cannons"< take that, Mass Effect! xD

[@odinulveson9101]

I assumed it was the back area of hosts the flood POD infector preferred since the spine is closer and would explain it burrowed and apperared face-first through the chest. Also the infected spartan could have been infected NOT by a pod infection form but airborne spores caused by them infiltrating breaches, gaps and wounds in the armor and undersuit. Caused f.ex by combat forms infectious claw appendages in melee combat or the protection harmed by debri etc in thick floaty infectious spore pockets of infectious fog, mist pockets etc. Spores might infect and transform a bit slower than by a pod i.form but still. Interesting nontheless! And its canon so thsts great to hear 👏

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

[Warning: spartan has fallen to the flood!] Everyone: ............ ODSTs: nah. Ain't gonna deal with that! Marines: ..... where's chips when you need him.. Other spartans: oh god.. ONI: nuke. EVERYTHING!!

[@phantoms205]

At the end of halo 2 the gravemind said he would ask cortana questions what were those questions exactly

[@Insanity6419]

Imagine a mini series where a 6 Spartan Flood containment team is on a mission to frigate of some kind and during the mission one of the Spartans get infected and we see from another Spartan’s POV as the infection form burrows into their teammate all you hear the shrieks a cries of immense pain, as the spartan armor begins to lock up due to the protocol, simultaneously all noise over the radio just goes silent and the spartan’s head drops down just as the armor locks up completely, nothing but silence as the rest of the team knew the micro explosives went off and they all stare for a second thinking they’re in the clear but then the head moves up and the flood mutations start and it’s just more horror like from then on in the series. I doubt any of the Spartan IVs have had any experience with the flood so they wouldn’t really know what to expect. They may be trained on what to expect but nothing could prepare them for the real deal. If done right I think it could make for a great mini series

[@X38277]

They probably don't have better protocols because ONI wanted to see what would happen.

[@ariannescharfi9366]

I find it weird to begin with that the forerunners didn't get rid of the flood research faciilities shortly before the rings were activated so they can't be conserved in any way..

[@TheBrowniesOwn]

remember that the mjolnir armor is like a class 4 out of class 19 for powerarmor by forerunner standards, and in the flood war, they had millions of forerunners, presumably with power armor of the top tier.

[@Redacted724]

I want to see a short animation of what that would look like, the shield popping and the form latches on, blood and gore and metal being torn apart as the spartan struggles to pull the infection form out of his fresh chest cavity, him trying to fight back as his body twists and contorts and reforms, and then finally the infection reaching for the head as a light shines behind the visor, overloads, and then explodes sending brain matter and glass shooting out just as the infection takes control of what’s left inside the helmet and the jagged destroyed armor then slumping over before reanimating and letting out a horrible flood roar

[@codyblazejackson3077]

I love your take on this. Keep em coming. Thank you for your hard work!

[@piccoloktheforged]

I just find it funny how when these got announced i asked does these skins mean that spartan 4s are susceptible to the flood and the spartan 4 stans got mad at me when you soon later say there is in universe lore of even spartans getting infected 😂

[@Jorary209]

Isnt there recent lore that 343 released from this seasonal update that gives a description of the mjolnir software enacting the safety protocols of the armor, but then was overcome by the logic plague very quickly? I dont remember if it was a post or one of the new flood armor/effects in customization that gave the description

[@thewerdna]

Yes. A detonation of the fusion core is supposed to happen, but the flood took control of the suit too fast

[@dougsmith6262]

Reminds me of what happened to Deathlok in the Marvel Zombies series. His cybernetic side detected the infection and pretty much self-destructed.

[@JUNIsLuke]

Honestly it seems 343 might have forgot about the nuclear reactor on their back lol😊

[@RandemFellow]

Read the story. The infection form overrides the AI in the suit and assumes direct control to shut down the sekf destruction.

[@AM-dc7pv]

I think the real question would be where are the flood infected Forerunner, Ancient Human, et al, Ecumene-era or legacy advanced combat armors running around? While after Mendicant Bias was defeated and with him so too the Flood, given the Flood surviving an all-out galactic level extinction event didn't wholly eradicate the Flood with many dispersed across the galactic expanse as well, one would imagine that given the sheer number of Forerunner, Ancient Humans and other previous species, atleast a few would've survived because of the probability. Also, are the Flood similar to Dragonball Z's villain Cell in which, like Cell the Flood only need to assimilate something once to retain that knowledge and possibly replicate it ad infinitum thereafter? [In which ever manner, whether that's with or without the Gravemind.] ...Or nah?

[@mattmc9812]

Experimental weapons of teh unsc. Weapons that are not standard like the ion field missile on the hannable mantis

[@dairydregone7146]

Finally, u did the new Halo flood lore

[@SomeGuy-sj1ly]

That wouldve been a way cooler death for some of the spartans in reach, especially the one who got domed with a needler.

[@g12gigaman]

What do you mean why didn't they implement core overload? upon flood infection Mjolnir systems go into a 3 stage process 1st immobilize 2nd destroy spartan cranial vault and neural lace 3rd detonate suit fusion pack the flood somehow interrupted stage 3 and off lined the armor lock it's in the season intel you overlooked it Edit halo waypoint halo infinite reckoning intel 1 gallows it shows detonation failure followed by suit systems being restored and altered

[@Napalmxxx2]

I know it wouldn't be a Spartan 2 or Orion Project (Spartan I's) since the nature of their augmentation regiments renders it impossible for the Flood to force a match like normal

[@tristanbackup2536]

On that other channel of breakdowns. I'm curious if you can do a serious breakdown & go into extreme detail of a T800 from Terminator. From the theoretical hyperalloy that it uses like tensile strength, the power source, & the neuromorphic processor it has, leave no stone unturned. 😂

[@sensufr219]

I think it was Halo Envoy where at the end Gray team was paired up with a team that contained different species that would go through the known universe and find forerunner artifacts and Or covenant remnants to find and deal with it would be cool if this type of story used gray team

[@Nope-dk4sh]

Thought: The Neural link implant connects directly to the suit, replacing the "Brain" requirement. Decapitation of a Spartan has no impact is because of this link, the flood form exploiting this and then supplanting any hardware restrictions or limitations by tapping into and eventually overriding the implant's need to be a bridge. Flood forms have shown they can influence tech (2401 Penitent Tangent?) so I don't see this as outside of their capabilities.

[@coleh7071]

Yo Instalation00, I'd like to see another versus video. Master Cheif vs. Jorge. (As factual as the Cheif vs. N6 vid) please do this, it'll make my day.

[@SonLukifer-uy1yz]

Just as FF7 was about fighting and saving the planet; Halo is the quest to regain the universe and fight agains the ones who were to instill life.

[@laughingleopard5226]

Cannot say I care about Halo at all as a game, but I do appreciate a game series with good lore.

[@GlacierCodfish]

Nice video. But at 2:40 you mention the question of this story being canon or not, but I don't recognize any details that confirm this canonically. Its a little abrupt to use Alex's odd wording as a proof to OFFICIALLY CONFIRM a spartan being infected in the Halo cannon. Yes, it is pretty well packed into the Halo story, but there is ofcourse still nothing here preventing this from being a fracture. Even the fact that this happened before Halo4 yet we hear nothing about it in later games or other lore, should be a pointer to this being a fracture or simply a simulated scenario used by the UNSC to train and test protocol. I think this is likely a fracture, but I also think 343 choose to not specifically confirm or deny this now, in order to be able to build on this story later if needed.

[@thomasveerman4532]

Could you please also dive into how the flood came to be on the ship? Did they survive the firing of halo or did they escape later? They can't have been in there for 100k years, they would have starved.

[@mattl9084]

The flood on alpha halo were there for a little over 101,000 local years and didn't starve? Not out of pocket for them to survive that long. And the firing of the halo array doesn't kill the flood just the food itself

[@mrawesome2847]

I could have sworn the corrupter protocol was established lore for a while

[@RuenUsque]

Think the helmet is an easy explanation: It's a bomb. In a warzone. Accidental detonations happen. Minimal chance, sure? But body is center mass and easier target than a headshot, and majority of Spartans will be dead from a shield bypassing headshot anyways.

[@adamgardner3768]

I just assumed the head explosives were incase they had an AI in their head

[@hastonlagrone768]

The various defense mechanisms against flood infection being driven by software rather than hardware is strange to me. The engineers had to know the flood can interface with an operating system and hijack it with the logic plague, why even risk it?

[@boxfoxscoot1614]

another reason why to place the explosives in the helmet is so if it was hacked the spartan could remove the helmet

[@LuoSon312_G8]

when the Armor system got rid of the "incineration" system in favor of "decapitation" system.

[@julianzepeda2398]

My question is how there are pockets of flood weren’t the rings supposed to destory all life including the flood

[@mcplegger5001]

Epilepsy warning would be good given the amount of flashing scenes used

[@bmxdude1337]

Idk seems like an oversight by the writers of 343i....or they are just making things up as they go, i wouldnt get too hyped

[@madnessgodman]

Awesome new video!

[@abccomando9329]

Adeptus Astarte's deep brake down please if not here 00 multiverse?

[@keithking4647]

I’m surprised that the Halo tv series didn’t feature the Flood because it would have made it far more interesting to watch 😂

[@DarkStarGames.]

I dunno what it was about that ending of the video, but you sounded so ominous like this is actively on going. Another thing is I always like to think of the endgame let’s say the Flood does conquer the Universe what’re they gonna do then… create taxes.

[@DEMONCOALITION]

what if oni new of this flaw in the suit and had other mysterious agendas a head? so what if a spartans head is destroyed, but dont spartans also have a neural interface implanted to the back of there skull connected to the suit. now you got the flood infection plus the logic plague. and a neural interface that could possibly flash clone a spartan into an ai, cortana spend a hot minute with flood somewhat ok.

[@benlyon4739]

Why not simply overload the armours fusion pack? That gets rid of the infection form and the potential combat form that is being created

[@fishclaspers361]

Apparently the Flood can shut down that safe guard.

[@Hieru1]

It was a spartan 4 that got infected cause wasn’t the reason Johnson didn’t get infect was because of is Orion project experimental serums?

[@kylerbryant3772]

Pretty sure the flood was able to do this with forerunners armor. After all the forerunners had way better armor that they basically lived in. I might be wrong.

[@sleepybear9953]

Love your vids man

[@zemos9111]

So, if those event are acting before halo 4 that mean, this spartan got killed?

[@odstarmor557]

I've been in some conversations with Warhammer fans and other KZbin sections and many have said that the flood would be right at home in the 40k universe. That's all that is needed to tell my how fucking terrifying the flood is.

[@sinmcgriff2284]

I've seen clips of del Rio and laskey on infinity and ehat looks like some UNSC ceremony a lot of times now. Like at 2:30 what video is that from?

[@tylerdurden4080]

Why didn't the suit detonate and destroy the flood? Because, money.

[@dansmith4077]

Great video thanks

[@benbaugh5471]

If they don’t add flood back to the campaign I don’t know what the fucks in there heads man let us oray

[@alexyoung6585]

PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON BATMAN VS CHEIF WHO WOULD WIN!!!

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

Once you understand that 90% of halo lore isn't written by people who actually like halo or who have any real knowledge of the setting you will understand why so much lore makes 0 sense

[@kylehogan2247]

infected spartan versus pure form video lol how do they compare? the pure forms are supposed to be the cumulation of all collected traits used effectively; does this hold against the benefits of the tech within the Spartans. or is the spartan more of a powerful combat form well above other basic combat forms on par with the pure form (in lore)

[@alexrc2306]

Fractures as a concept should've never happened. The little or much cohesion the Halo Universe once had is now lost. The fact that we have to ask ourselves if a story is deemed canon, speculative or any other adjective is stupid. Halo had already interconnected stories, no matter the medium they were told. There's no need nor place for "timelines" or "multiverse" bullshit in this franchise. That's just lazy writing. Which is, thank God, not the case for Saturn Devouring his Son. I'd argue something as big as the Flood infecting a Spartan super soldier should've had more impacting, or a more playable approach. But I think this narrative thread could use a slow cooking, spanning a bigger plan. Hopefully, 343 can hire more competent writers, who can translate the already amazing written stories to the games.

[@davidminzes9886]

Damn, I ain't ever been one of the first 10 on a video

[@syamilsyamil3128]

So that suit can tank gunshot but it cannot prevent flood infection???thats wierd

[@t3arki113r]

I forgot where it’s stated, but flood forms can rip through a lot of tough metals withease.

[@baileyrezendes1035]

As well as gaps in the armor. Infection forms can easily rip through the jumpsuit under the Spartans armor using the barbs on their tendrils

[@anthonyworstell3768]

What happens when a Spartan is infected by the Flood? Pray to your God(s).

[@rustydean772]

Was waiting for this one

[@IsuiGtz]

But wait. HOW DOES IT HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE? Not even Johnson got infected because of the altered nervous system. So... I mean, how?

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

Johnson could get infected but the with slightly more difficulty so the flood decided to go for an easier to infect marine. Hell even master chief almost got infected.

[@t3arki113r]

Spartan II’s and Johnson can be infected, but it’s a major pain for a flood form to do that, so they just go for an easier host instead.

[@relaetsecyr]

Wasn't a big fan of the short story. Thought it was a bit too fan servicey and the characterization of the flood was too different from 'The Flood' book for my liking. I thought that the suit not self destructing because 'logic plague' was total bullshit when the logic plague itself was well characterized in the forerunner trilogy. Essentially the flood communicates with sentient and intelligent AI and makes them question their core beliefs causing them to act irrationally. Said plague doesn't just impact AI, but also characters like Faber and the Ur Didact which made the former take put his ambitions above the rest of the forerunner race and the latter act in a self destructive and easily manipulatable fashion. The fact that the flood can logic plague a simple straightforward logic system: self destruct if compromised, and the fact that no other spartan could remotely detonate the armor like on First Strike really rubbed me the wrong way. It was like watching a bad horror movie where all the characters are idiots and everything goes wrong so the scary monster could kill the main cast. The fact that there were practically no fail safes when the UNSC had spent 20 years worrying about the Cole Protocol makes me really unhappy as well. Overall I really wish this story had more time in the oven and was written closer to a military fiction or got a cannon fodder to further clarify what was going on here instead of leaving it in a state which negatively impacts the already poor state of the halo universe.