"Can You Play in Odd Time Signatures?" Cory Wong // Q&A Episode 7

[@CoryWongMusic]

i mean...do you all hear how funky Sonny is on that opening tune? i personally request that his amp is pointed directly at me for every gig on tour.

[@jordanzachmann2562]

I'd like to request his amp be pointed directly at me during the show in St. Paul this upcoming March

[@sat1241]

Great opening tune. As for odd time, there are a million styles in odd time. On youtube there is a great funk song called "Funk in 5/4" the band and channel name is "Vinyl " The song was released in 1997 and is somewhat in Meters/ JBs style, has horns, a Latin break in the middle and an smooth guitar solo Check it out if you haven't already There is also a backing track, a trap beat called 5/4 Time Signature (Oddtime) Hip Hop Beat/Instrumental 'FIVE QUARTERS' [prod.FreQtik] 5/4 Trap 2021 An amazing rap song on youtube with changing time signatures is called clipping. - Story 2 [OFFICIAL VIDEO] , tempo also increases There is also a recent instructional video by Rich Brown - The Brown'stone called "The Essential "Odd Time" Exercise" Rich is a great bass player. In this video he gets a great James Jameson feel while playing 7/4 He has another video on odd time doing 5/4 Sting had a nice song in 1993 :Seven Days" in 5/4 with a great beat by Vinnie Colaiuta Of course there could be a hit song in odd time. It depends on the vocal Even Taylor Swift has a 5/4 song called "tolerate it" and another called "Closure" Cory, you're telling us you're more conservative than Taylor Swift? She's got more odd times stuff?

[@nickgarnero9843]

Supa funky

[@richardbuckner8779]

Well, I can't see how different it could be. Still, thank you Captain Obvious. (Please, take it as a joke, as I really admire your work).

[@danlastname407]

Mats and Morgan vibes

[@daveedson32]

I thought ya'll were about to launch into "If You Have to Ask" by the Chili Peppers with that opening riff.

[@gabrielmendes7253]

YES someone notice thank you hahahah

[@ImJustStandingHere]

SAME

[@AnthonyADS]

First thing I thought of!! Different key though

[@TheJeffMasood]

It’s the same but a half step higherr

[@FunkHitsTheFan]

same strumming pattern and tone even lol

[@HankW]

"Is it enjoyable for the listener? Does the general public want to hear it?" Friggin YES Cory what the hell, that was a banger. I want the full song and like add a wooden xylophone or something that tune slaps.

[@FacePomagranate]

I too support Cory Wong slowly transforming into Frank Zappa

[@CoryWongMusic]

NOTED!

[@andrechris-sargent9921]

@@CoryWongMusic Note that a third time I want it too. Edit: Actually, mark it a culminative 28+ times taking into consideration the like buttons smashed.

[@HankW]

@@CoryWongMusic Okay I actually looked up the original and I do see what you're talking about. The high energy strange time signature part is a banger, the jazzy rest of the song not quite as good of a fit for the brand perhaps.... That said, Kenni's slap tongue (along with the rest of the brass section) makes this track actually rad and if you rework the B part to keep the high energy you've got a dope Cory Wong track.

[@cooldebt]

It sounds like a mashup of Blue Rondo Alla Turka and Crystal Snail (Mega Man x2) viz. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2m9hoxppJeXgpo and I also want the full tune

[@KatzenMaik]

Duuuude, "until it falls" is such a serious banger!!! Since I´m the official spokesman for the general public I can confidently say: They wanna hear it!!!

[@CoryWongMusic]

NOTED!

[@JohnLloydDavis]

The live sound mix/production of these jams is fantastic by the way.

[@gimmeurforks786]

The riff Cory is playing in the beginning is very reminiscent of if you have to ask by RHCP love it

[@phillipschaeffer3578]

I thought it was gonna be a cover

[@markg.4952]

Lol. Totally expected Sonny to go into, "A wanna be gangster thinkin' he's a wise guy. Rob another bank, he's a sock 'em in the eye guy".

[@daveking-sandbox9263]

The riff was played by Larry Carlton on an old crusaders album I think from the late 70s.

[@victoragun2643]

I must say, hearing Jay solo lately has been a huge treat for me. I so love how smooth he is.

[@jaywebb6223]

Thank you. 🎺 ❤ #trumpetman

[@harryhassell4669]

Straight up killin it

[@trebmaster]

Dudes just went FULL PROG with that time signature!

[@Elemy69]

Right? It sounded a bit like Dream Theater for a moment haha, but I loved it!

[@sanate_sanghming]

Thought I heard The Dance of Eternity for a while at the beginning

[@pitpride1220]

​@@sanate_sanghmingIt's pretty close to that riff

[@BryceRogers]

That odd time sig tune was sick and I'm sad that it's not on Spotify to be honest.

[@althejazzman]

Be honest music nerds, who was counting those time signatures as soon as they played it?

[@blitheringape5321]

I lost track immediately

[@cooldebt]

It's a habit if you listen to The Consouls - they cover vgm as jazz amd often change time sig eg Scars of Time in 11/8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6SngWx6pdWgiNk, kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXvHp2CvbNSlipY (and others)

[@samcooke343]

I was just counting 6/8s with one bar of 3/8 at the end, not even odd. I know it's meant to be alternating 5/16 and 7/16 but it doesn't sound like that to me at all, just one big 6/8 that loops four times before the 3/8.

[@althejazzman]

@@samcooke343 I guess you just really like off-beats, because it would alternative on and off with that method of counting.

[@ujwaldua2876]

Give me my chipotle, give me my chipotle, I want chips, I want guac, give me my chipotle, one.

[@craigchapman8220]

That is a tight ass band. I actually love the odd time song:)

[@cooldebt]

Same, didn't realise how much until The Consouls started doing all sorts of VGM in odd times. Their cover of Mute City in 7 is highly listenable and their arrangement of Scars of Time in 11 (alternating 6 and 5) is a work of art. And I think Crystal Snail is in 13.

[@nakedvegasband5356]

Sonny was humming El Paso by Marty Robbins frequently covered by the Dead

[@chadhiggins9944]

That guitar sounds exactly like "power of equality" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

[@nikodemus7900]

1:20 L I C C

[@CyBOXbeatbox]

I've noticed a lack of Lampley in the last handful of videos. Is he touring with some other bands or something?

[@orion6622]

I’m wondering this too?!

[@Cbat124]

Jay Webb dang! Get it!

[@thesmithyboy1490]

Meditation has to be my favourite live. The one at Brooklyn Steel is 😍😍😍

[@JoshRSantiago]

my lord that trumpet is heavenly

[@Michael.Jamie.Foxxworthy]

Just looked on Spotify and no "Until it Falls". Soooo bummed. Incredible sample right here.

[@caedenschlosser7091]

Good lawd those horns were ///tight/// in Ketosis

[@BrandonMilner]

Loved that succulent And patient trumpet solo. So much shredding and that was the tasteful sultry opposite. Pants of many listeners flew off...

[@MattHaide]

Give me my Chipotle!

[@andrewblome2450]

I want a "Wong goes Prog" album...now!! When you guys busted out the "odd time grooves" I wasn't sure if I was hearing Dream Theater or Umphreys McGee. Honestly it's a good fit for you guys. All jokiing aside I'd really like to hear an album of more musically complex stuff like that but with your classic Wongness....

[@cooldebt]

I for one would also support a full album of 'Wong Times'

[@just_jarman]

"Until It Falls" goes really hard. Haha

[@Roestikrokette]

i really cant thank you enough for giving us all this conten for free and without any advertising!!! thank you!

[@cowbellthunder]

With this band backing him up, I’d unironically support Cory slapping on a NASCAR jacket, a Fender undershirt, and Squeezify Vodka ads every 3 minutes. Whatever it takes!

[@williamroberts2216]

Sounds like the Chili Peppers riff on "if you have to ask" funky AF. Good stuff.

[@achenarmyst2156]

„Da da da“ is not primarily a commercial song. It was written by Stephan Remmler for his band Trio and was a big hit of the German Neue Deutsche Welle in the 80s.

[@cooldebt]

I still remember the puzzlement of hearing it on the radio. Such a different song but it did well in Australia too

[@MayotheMaker]

Q&A question! Will you , or have you ever considered a Christmas album?

[@loickphone8867]

Hi Cory and the Magic Wongnotes! I may have seen all the vidéos Internet offers. You all DOPE guys an laydie (Negah) What a band ! I love your music, the athmosphere in the band and that amazing creativity and generosity in your videos. I forgot humour, nonsens. This is so enthousiastic We need you all in France again !!! because of COVID I could'nt come & ear you in paris and other dates in France. I just went to Fearless Flyers @ Lavilette Jazz festival. Great, but we need you and the Wongnotes again in France to fire one or two DJ's ;D Do you plan another sone tour in France ? Peace, love and groove, greatings to all the vand

[@aliavalentine864]

until it falls was killer! As a member of the general public, I'd love to hear it!!

[@TheMork]

Ooooh, that odd time signature lick was GLORIOUS!!!

[@xaxaxa764]

more odd time signatures

[@cooldebt]

Yes! I started to really enjoy them after The Consouls covers of Mute City (7) Scars of TIme (they made it 11), Enter Waka (3+4+2?!), Hollow Bastion (5) Cinco de Chocobo (5) and Crystal Smail (13)

[@DarihoMusic]

At the beggining i thought someone will start singing: A wannabe gangster thinkin' he's a wise guy...

[@TheJeffMasood]

This opening riff sounds exactly like If You Have to Ask by the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

[@mikoajmalangiewicz8375]

GTA VI theme sounds great

[@gregoryforsterjr8365]

Please tell me that opening song exists. I was jammin' to that with my windows down in a McDonald's Drive-Thru. Maaaaaaaan.

[@MinoHandle]

Y’all gotta c’mon’ over here to Tokyo! Right now!!

[@silentboy85]

if u have to ask

[@gothgrrl8711]

i was about to comment about how you could feel that odd time song in 12/8 but then cory did the nerd out for me lmao

[@krischi_mk]

OMG its greaaaat! Until it falls babyyyyyyyy!! 😆😆😆

[@amcsdmi]

Until it Falls SLAPS. RECORD IT

[@davidd3242]

Nice to hear from the horns today!

[@DrakeMartin]

4:00 sonny singing El Paso by Marty Robbins

[@danielelise7348]

Damn that tune was slick & Michael Nelson is a genius 🎼🎵🎶🎷🎺🎸🎹🥁🎼🎵🎶

[@gabrielcastor5084]

All respect for Nêgah Santos!

[@bobviavattine1715]

Killin' band and music Cory. Saw you guys in Rochester NY last year at Anthology. I was blown away man.....

[@brycewalburn3926]

5:17 - that drum groove is wild!

[@smoouve-_-2490]

We better get a full version of the opening jam

[@bdav1988]

Cool era Miles vibes on that trumpet solo, absolutely beautiful

[@kjdude8765]

So close to the Lik....

[@duaneste]

I am 100% here for Cory and the Prog Notes.

[@cooldebt]

Agree. It was kind of like a mad mash of Blue Rondo Alla Turka and Mega Man x2 Crystal Snail (kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2m9hoxppJeXgpo)

[@rubitsium2939]

So when do we get that opening tune as a release?

[@MrMostaza14]

4:25 and that's spelled "Direct Flyte"

[@seanmcmorris]

A "moustache" is a faux-pas so terribly "gauche" - it's actually funky. (Now, feed that into a looper and start practicing your odd meters until you're off the charts.) Wait, what did I just say? Le funk c'est chic!

[@randy4ii411]

I love how everyone gets the opportunity to just do their thing.

[@cooldebt]

I wanted that jam to go on forever

[@impasceticfinalp2923]

I thought you guys open with If you have to ask!!

[@pgSaxophone]

Am I the only one that wants to hear a tenor battle between Sam and Kenni?

[@pedronascimento2101]

Great band!😃

[@hornsolo_official]

Corey's attitude towards "Until it Falls" is depressing. It also makes me think he doesn't understand who his audience is, because I guarantee most would eat that up.

[@metalheadblues]

Might tap into a new audience. The prog boys would eat that up.

[@kazisamagicaldolphin]

That opening groove was hot

[@JacobHalfman]

See ya in Madison in March, glad to see you in the Sylvee this time too, much better venue than last time!

[@LupinoArts]

Did I just hear the Licc hidden somewhere?

[@BrentonStirm]

Definitely in that beginning trumpet solo

[@dannydickylilly]

Until it falls had a Zappa feel... sick

[@monomamori]

For a second I thought was a cover of "If You Have To Ask" by RHCP 😅

[@jobrousa82]

Guitar lick is taken from Chili Peppers song "If you have to ask" from the Blood Sugar Sex Magic Album.

[@orion6622]

Where is the original trumpet player??! Also - Kenny looks friggen jacked in this. LOL

[@buddyriddell]

Anyone else notice that Sonny’s “mustache song” (4:00) is Marty Robbins’ “El Paso,” the old cowboy song?

[@jackettech]

Dang Jay Webb -- crystal clear tone and so smooth my headphones almost slid off my ears!

[@ForestBaileyMusic]

Dave Brubeck would be proud 🏆

[@cooldebt]

He might also have enjoyed The Consouls and what they do with vgm kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXvHp2CvbNSlipY and kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2m9hoxppJeXgpo

[@Godislove225]

Good sound👍👌

[@bgovetas]

Just sell out already and play balkan music. I know Petar wants it. I know I do

[@RockyTop85]

This sounds really awesome, but…It’s 4/4.

[@garbb5611]

Jazz Crusaders for the 21st Century

[@perk2997]

Does anyone know the name of the opening song???

[@nickp440]

That was basically a tool song. Now i want to hear a big band tool cover

[@trofl]

6:31 best running gag, I see you editor

[@SAM197470]

I loved Sonny's Marty Robbins thing

[@kazisamagicaldolphin]

Cory playing math rock made my day

[@Dev-Austin]

Sounds like Sir Psycho Sexy for the opening tune.

[@MauritsKerkow]

1:20

[@iMobinator]

cory a whole different person with that odd time stank face i love it

[@matthewwatt2295]

Wait, isn't this episode 7?

[@raphaelrobles8104]

Mans not afraid to touch lick territory in his solo.

[@RealVladPutin]

Anyone ever throw in the Mario kart lick?

[@RodrigoBernalMusic]

Is that 14/8 or just a 4/4 with polyrhytm?

[@I-Am-L]

fuck the radio, hit me with that odd time all day.

[@webstercat]

Marty Robbins. I heard that…,,

[@Jeradification]

guitar sounds like if you have to ask

[@mukisajoshua3596]

4:45 really feels like the African 6/8

[@DanielGFreeman]

Damn that’s smooth

[@arnaudnoar3345]

Hi and many thanks! But.....my ears are in sensitive alert when on the beginning, 58th seconds, the bass groove seems "" floating "....am I Wrong?.....

[@nickgarnero9843]

You guys are so much fun. Thank you

[@sabarishmenon4318]

What's the song that played at the end ??

[@kawls9915]

If you have to ask intro!!

[@MetalFreak187]

Where the hell do I get this track

[@treyd7533]

please play The Chicken

[@eugenejakovlev3918]

What's the intro song?

[@dirtyblonde1707]

What is this opening tune called? I want to put this on repeat! J Webb has got some sauce flowing through that Horn! Such a PHAT sound you guys have.

[@lajoswolford3163]

Wow!❤👍👍absolutely beautiful👍Big like👍