Costco 2015 Evolution hot tub Review

[@Dieponhe]

The man knows his stuff. Very admirable.

[@Neo_Destiny]

It's always fascinating hearing someone talk about things that they have specific knowledge about.

[@hyperbolicpants]

We're getting ready to replace our old hot tub. More videos like this please! You're a natural on camera.

[@RedRobotCake]

I have zero knowledge on tubs and have no interest in buying one, but this was still a great video to watch. Makes you realize how little big merchants even know about their own products!

[@AlexRaGeAHoLiC]

If i needed a hot tub i would totally buy it from you.

[@scotmcm1]

DUDE!!!!! THANK YOU very much for that video!!! A hot tub is a pretty big investment and something you be easily preyed upon. Your video helped open my eyes to many issues I need to investigate. Again - Thank You!

[@ChrisWheatley]

No problem, pop over to www.hottubuniversity.com for more information

[@wrathofall]

Good job Chris! You tought me some things I didn't know. Trying to weave your way through to purchasing the best tub for you is not easy!

[@ChrisWheatley]

+wrathofall Its a nightmare out there, there is more misinformation than you can shake a stick at check out www.hottubuniversity.com for some good buying tips!

[@travishartland1825]

Have to disagree with some of the comments. The reason the hoses are not clamped is because they are PVC hoses. It appears that they were glued with Oates Rain or Shine PVC glue. The air tubes are clamped because they are made of rubber and the mfg does not want the hose coming off. As a long time hot tub owner I can tell you that the exterior insulation is a blessing. Anytime you need to make a repair, if necessary, you do not need to call a serviceman or tear out a bunch of the spray in foam insulation. You can do it yourself easily. As far as the structural aspect of the tubs, wood rots and these units are not made to be a diving platform. Purely functional. The pumps are just that, there is a great deal that does into pump selection. Gallons per minute, head pressure, etc. the pumps on this unit work amazing. In my experience the Costco Hilton is literally twice the hot tub for half the cost of a brand name tub. What you see here is a sales person trying to separate you from a large chunk of your money. I've been a master plumber for over 30 years and these tubs are well built, easy to repair, work amazingly well and cost half of the name brands. Buy smart, do your research, read reviews.

[@ChrisWheatley]

The airlines are poly and the main ones are nylon wound flex. the pressure lines should be clamped regardless if you really want to do it right, Look at Arctic, they use the same nylon would hose and don't clamp and they are arguably the leakiest spas out there. That old pitch of the full foam spas being hard to service is from the old days of poly based foams that harden up, they were a nightmare with the new foams leak detection and repair is easy and you just re-foam the area when you are done... you no longer need to sacrifice R value for repair and if they clamped the joint like they should then even this would be a non issue. You comment on structure means nothing... A thin shell is cheap and needs supports like this a good one does not. They are a good pump, but small and underpowered and it was not the pump I was commenting on it was the effect of the insulation system on the pump overheating... They are not that cheap, you can buy better for less and don't bother to read reviews... most are fake... I could generate 40 email accounts, spend a day on the ratings sites and forums and change any brand from goo to bad, or just pay a bunch of university students to blog on the sites for me. it happens all the time my man unless it is a verified source like BBB they are worse than useless.

[@bobs6087]

I have this hot tub. It works great is cheap to run, and has been very reliable. Only cost $5000.00 US. I would buy it again if I needed too. We looked at 8000.00 tubs and they did not have any of the features this one has. Costco has free delivery and easy return warranty, (if you want to return it). Parts are the same as the higher priced tubs.

[@One-ou3xk]

My 2019 Evolution Fusion is also a great Spa and a great price. Any Dude can pick apart anything. My guess is that Dude only has good things to say about Spa's he has a vested interest in. If Evolution Spas were as bad as what he alludes to then after all these years Costco would not still be selling them 'cause nobody would be purchasing them. Evolution spa shell is made by Strong ltd. and comes with Balboa control system. Don't be fooled by negative hype. Costco return policy is same for their tubs - TRY returning your spa to local spa seller and see what happens.

[@bennyhill5775]

@@One-ou3xk BaM! Jus like that!!!

[@levalproductions]

alright... so we know what's bad. What is the good hot tub brand we should be buying from?

[@Daveman13]

Very informative. What's under the panelling says alot about the engineering of these tubs. Thanks for explaining the design flaws in the engineering

[@theguyinthehelmet1875]

Do you like twilight series by Master Spa?

[@ChrisWheatley]

Wow Thanks for all the support and good wishes, I will be doing more of these. In fact if you live in Nova Scotia and have a new hot tub and want to help, email me and I will use your tub in a review! email [e-mail] and put "review my hot tub" in the subject line! Stay tuned and Have a great day!

[@JapaneseModernist]

I feel like I learned a lot about Hot Tubs, Thank you

[@rpgreseller]

Wow, I would have never guessed it was a crappy tub. This guy destroyed so much fallacy that anyone would have so easily believed or assumed.

[@Dustin21A]

Was very close to buying an evolution tub from Costco, great video I think I will go with a higher end brand! Very informative and probably saved me lots of money in the long run!

[@ChrisWheatley]

Go to www.hottubuniversity.com post in the buyers assistance section and I'll look at your area

[@ImpressionsMobileMsc]

Very informative and glad I spent the 6 minutes leaning from you. Thank you!

[@andrewstephens2569]

Holy shit you know alot about hot tubs. Very informative video!

[@salsavani]

This guy just schooled us all on what to look for !!!

[@Key-ls5rb]

Thank you Chris i'm so glad im doing my research and there are honest people like you!!! Edit:watching more of your videos.

[@Ryan-yi6su]

PDC , Vita spa , maax spa and some sundance use outter perimeter insulation.

[@danielaferiat5144]

Hi Chris Seems to be that Bullfrog is more available in my area. Any thoughts about that model? Thanks Dan

[@Love2ShopNow]

Great video, makes me think twice about purchasing anything ever again from Costco.

[@rudyrodriguez2693]

I own an Evolution Aspire tub, it's a smaller tub. And we love it. Stainless steel motor. Lounger, and heats quickly after water changeouts. I used to own a dimension one tub. The markup on tubs is ridiculous. Your video and web page is obviously biased as Costco isn't using an inferior product, they are reducing their profit margin compared to Hot Tub Retailers. Yes there are services hot tub retailers provide that costco doesn't. My opinion if you haven't owned a hottub before or are mechanically inclined then maybe use an actual hottub retailer. For me I'd rather save the money and perform the install and whatever maintenance is needed myself. Evolution is a good brand.

[@feriby]

I’m also going to look at the Master spas before I purchase anything

[@anotheryoma]

Come for the knowledge, stay for the holy jumpin. I love this guy

[@talon6890]

so what are the best hot tubs on the market right now for someone with not a lot of money and for someone who is a billionaire? i couldnt find anything on your website which talks about specifics...

[@MrCaliic]

Very interesting to watch, even though i have no interest in hot tubs :p

[@seattledubsix7109]

just got a costco brochure that had me going to order a Evolution spa, thanks for this video. I think Ill go to a local dealer instead. Cheap cheap cheap!

[@ChrisWheatley]

Post onbuyers assistance at www.hottubuniversity.com

[@IFAYTALITYI]

The voice of a legend...

[@mexicanreformist1522]

Thanks for informing the rest of us who aren't experts on hot tubs, and may be duped from these larger commercials.

[@MrKeykeylikesit]

I have no desire to buy a hot tub but I watched the whole video because it was good information and a good review. I can tell you know your stuff.

[@rawbathandbeauty]

I have a question about my Costco evolution spa. Can you tell me the breaker size that I need to run my spa? My spa ran well for about a year but now when I turn it on it immediately trips the breaker and it doesn’t work. I’m thinking my breaker may be too weak for the load of the spa. I can’t find any stats or Manuel to know what I need to know to figure out what is wrong and how to fix it! Any info you could give me I would really appreciate it!

[@ChrisWheatley]

50 amp is recommended for most spas, 40 can work but it's right on the edge, I would check your heater it's likely the culprit, get the electrician to disconnect both heater terminals and see if it solves the problem.

[@Theowest]

Please try and record horizontally next time. Thank you. :)

[@ChrisWheatley]

lol yeah I videographer I am not 😆

[@JoeyTheBeaster]

+Chris Wheatley sup dude

[@If_Only_I_Knew_Why]

You know you can have vertical videos playing full screen on mobile, so it's more watchable.

[@cwphotography9387]

Thank you for the very informative video. I was considering something from Cosco looks like I'll be going to a brick-and-mortar store any brand you would recommend?

[@bennyhill5775]

"Nordic"Roto-mold hot tub is a Solid choice @ a fair price point.

[@jillphx9430]

Great info..thank you! I couldn't find one review online for a 70+ jet Evolution tub. Now on sale for $4999... so even with all the cheapy stuff on here..that's a pretty good deal!

[@callumwheatley8579]

+Discover Downtown Las Vegas Dude even at $5k (American or around $6800 CDN) its still not a good deal... You would be way better to spend a bit more money and just get something that will be efficient and sustainable... The problem is to get this tub to that price they just had to cut so many corners that its not even worth buying.

[@slakk5093]

+Discover Downtown Las Vegas Did we just watch the same video?!

[@jumbo6498]

I didn't think I would be learning about hot tubs today.

[@oakator]

This video changes everything for me.

[@shroomvilla4766]

How did I get here?

[@feriby]

Chris I’m thinking about buying a marquis Resort. What do you think about it. It’s about 13k loaded delivered.

[@ChrisWheatley]

Marquis build a pretty good tub, better than most of the stuff out there. Its a lot for a small tub, but it is jetted out well. post your location to the www.hottubuniversity.com buyers assistance site and ill see what else you have around that would compare.

[@FPVSpace]

Just snap a chunk out of that foam support LOL.

[@thisscreensucks]

+FPVSpace that foam doesnt actually support much anyways

[@danielaferiat5144]

Can you recommend a really reliable and solid model for 3-4 people that could tolerate being near the ocean.

[@ChrisWheatley]

anyone doing at least the 4 main things... hand rolled self-supporting shells, Balboa control, and heating systems, Icynene full foam insulation, and glued and clamped plumbing. Master, Artesian, Marquis, Beachcomber (not hybrid)

[@mikemurphy1896]

Excellent ! Helpful. Thank you.

[@ChrisWheatley]

Glad it was helpful!

[@xTheBossRules]

How is 10k Canadian cheap?

[@jaredmac11]

Not even interested in a hot tub, but I appreciate this video a lot. It just goes to prove the old adage. 'You get what you pay for'.. and sometimes not even then.

[@MichaelAussie05]

Excellent informative video. Thanks for your time, expertise and efforts.

[@ChrisWheatley]

That's awesome, most people don't. My point was that they are pitched as a third pump and they are like 1/4 the price of a water pump and water jet system. They are also loud and inefficient with little or no real value most people report never using them.

[@csmchan638]

I have a Costco-Strong brand 76 jet Hot tub which is leaking water. It is three years old, and I am unable to get it fixed. No support service available on the West coast . It started to leak water after a year and I cannot find the source of leakage among myriads of plumbing joints below the tub. It is a jumbled mess of plumbing, poorly designed, with no thought given to maintenance. Neither Costco nor the Evolution manufacturer of the Hot Tub are responding. It is a nightmare, considering many efforts I have made. It was $7000. when I bought it and I may have to spent another $1000. to get it hauled away. Is there any trash value here? Bottom line, please do not buy Costco/Evolution Hot Tub based on my experience.

[@jasonmoro6206]

Has the insulation gotten any better on the newer tubs? I am looking at buying one from costco but dont want it to have a bad insulation rating

[@ChrisWheatley]

Hey, Jason, Man mass merchants are a mess on these speciality products, they just don't know what they are doing and end up making a mess of it. I love Costco for lots of things, things they can't screw up , but their hot tub program has always been a train wreck, so have all the mass merchants for that matter, the problem is they need to be the cheapest and that means they just can't put enough money into the tub to build a good spa, so you get thin shells, crap insulation and poor construction... check out www.hottubuniversity.com for some great insight.

[@jasonmoro6206]

Great thanks for the info. I have taken costco out as a option. I have now narrowed it down to a couple tubs. They are all around the 10k range and would love to hear your thoughts on each tub. 1st is a Northwinds Freedom. Next is a Coast Spa Classic model and lastly a Bullfrog Spa. The Northwinds and Bulldog i was told each come with a 2 year mechanical warranty versus the Classic having a 5 year mechanical warranty.

[@gunjyguylyricshiphop3906]

your the hank hill of hot tubs

[@chris-tx2sw]

My lord Hank once worked on a hottub

[@gunjyguylyricshiphop3906]

did he , he was a clothing retailer before buck strickland picked him up.

[@aquaticabomination8911]

"I sell hot tubs and hot tub accessories"

[@CEYTgaming]

What’s wrong with the blower motor

[@ChrisWheatley]

Its a gimmick. They are crazy noisy, blow cold air into the tub so they are really inefficient, and all they do is make bubbles... no massage or other value... mass merchants use them because they can call it a pump and increase the jet count... so instead of a two-pump 40 jet system they can call it a 3 pump 52 jet system but the air system is only a couple hundred dollars a water pump with jets would be $800

[@robd4914]

Hi Chris, have you reviewed any spas from Sunrise in Grimsby Ontario?

[@ChrisWheatley]

I know them well. they are a mixed bag like most of the stuff out there, cradel supported shell lower end insulation but good parts.

[@setyetaral]

Hi do you know anything about the bullfrog a7 series hot tub and if so what do you think?

[@ChrisWheatley]

Hi I like bullfrog for the most part. They use a good electronic control and heating system, the do a good full foam Icynene insulation system, and glue and clamp the plumbing lines. But the shell is an old tech ABS plastic shell. These were all the rage in the 80's they were supposed to revulutionis the industry but the just we not strong enough and had huge failures. No some guys still use them and try and make them work with pedestal supports and rigidising layers but they are no where near as good as good old fiberglass hand rolled self supporting shells. For that reason they cant make my tier one. I also really dobt like all the gimmicks. www.hottubuniversity.com/bullfrog/

[@HermannTheGreat]

Great information, I feel more confident about purchasing quality hot tub in the future.

[@ThatGuyWithBacon]

i have no idea how i just managed to watch this entire video about hot tubs. i dont even own a hot tub.

[@macrumpton]

Great informative video! A lot of important info presented clearly.

[@thegreatrichard111]

So...let’s see. Most products sold at Costco have an 8% to 10% markup, while Kirkland Signature brand products have a 15% markup. The company runs very lean, with overhead costs at about 10% of revenue and profit margins at 2%. The average hot tub retailer makes 50-100% markup. WHAT’S YOUR MARKUP? WORTH 5-10K FOR A CONSUMER?

[@ChrisWheatley]

Yep, I like Costco sometimes... But they suck at this product, they always have... Personally, as a Costco member, I want top quality products at these super low margins not cheap poorly made crap at these low margins... My point was simply that this is a cheap tub and the price isn't that good even you can find loads of tubs in this quality at this price. Costco Canada has cheap spas with 27 jets on for $4799 www.costco.ca/Evolution-Spas-Rockland-Ex-27-jet-Spa.product.100418896.html Then they have well-made spas with 28 jets for $10,500 www.costco.ca/Beachcomber-667-LEEP-28-jet-Bodies-(112-FlexJets)-6-person-Spa.product.100471303.html Any decent retailer or high volume wholesaler will have similar tubs at similar prices... In fact, I've got better quality more featured spa for less in both cases...

[@One-ou3xk]

Costco also sells Beachcomber tubs, which Chris W. likes .... but of course there are now problems being spouted about other issue (pricing/warranty). End of day - Chris will never have anything good to say about purchasing a tub from Costco. Given Costco has sold spas for many years and continue to do so tell me Costco is doing something right, or else they would not continue to sell spas as no-one would buy them. I caution people need to always look a the Spokepersons vested interest.

[@lindsm609]

IMAGINE THE HOTTUB THIS DUDE OWNS!! :P

[@clarkbowden1]

Chris what manufacturers do you recommend. ?.

[@ChrisWheatley]

The guys doing the main 5 things, Hand rolling a good solid self-supporting shell, Using Balboa heating and control systems, gluing and clamping the lines to the jets and using a good expensive full Icynene foam insulation systems. so... Twilight is my top therapy massage spa, then Artesian, healthy living, clarity, marquis, Coast, even beachcomber non-hybrid (leep) is good, at the entry level I love the getaway, then the Nordic What I don't like is the brands that spend all the money on the bullshit marketing, branding and gimmicks and build mid grade overpriced hot tubs with goofy proprietary parts.. Goto my blogsite www.hottubuniversity.com

[@clarkbowden1]

Thanks a bunch Chris!

[@One-ou3xk]

@@ChrisWheatley How about performing a side by review of twilight, artesian, and evolution/strong spas? This way people can see the differences. Then track operating history of these tubs to see what failures occur. I am willing to track my 2019 Beachcomber spa against your favourites. Costco sells beachcomber so Costco must be doing something right - albeit you will most likely find something wrong with Costco Beachcomber tubs.

[@ChrisWheatley]

Yeah I like Beachcomber and actually, the Costco leep model is better than the Hybrids but that's why its $8300 for a one pump basic 23 jets tub! Totally what I have been saying.. they are not a good price on hot tubs, Typically they are just cheap tubs for cheap prices and when they try and sell a good hot tub its full pop retail that you would pay from a local dealer with way better backup and support... You can get a tub built and insulated and plumbed the same from several different brands for a lot Less than that.

[@One-ou3xk]

Costco price for Beachcomber can't be beat by most local dealers. Costco warranty can't be beat by local Dealers - The Costco return policy wordings are concise and clear and allow for return of spas for full refund. I have yet to see a Dealer with same return policy wordings identical to Costco. Most Dealers and Costco use non-Dealer, 3rd party service technicians and spa moving companies. Dealers are no longer enjoying the high profits of spa sales as people move to Costco due to same product at better price and warranty.

[@Davidsweirdness]

this guy's too good of a Salesman I'm not even interested in the hot tubs and I watched the hole video

[@gillesd.2277]

Very informative! Thank u very much!

[@deedeew4040]

OMG, I was just ready to buy a new hot tub from Costco.

[@kookporko1]

man it is crazy how much you know about hot tubs

[@justinn5357]

+Pkmott15 Really everything he pointed out though would be things that you could realize if you open your product and look through it. He is obviously well versed, but the thing is the average person thinks they have NO way of learning, so they just don't try. I think this goes to show how much fucking money these companies make, by having tons of clueless customers.

[@blastbeatsfrombeyond]

I subscribed thanks to your knowledge and approach. Much appreciated!

[@CharlieStrife]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge about hot tubs

[@marcolloyd2956]

This hot tub is actually really good and they have improved it a lot. The new one is definitely a better option though. If you get this it's not the end of the world and is a good option

[@MrLadiesfirst]

Not for 10 thousand dollars.

[@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHell]

how has it been improved exactly?

[@marcolloyd2956]

+BTown830 better use of space, better equipped, better base and stability. It is a pretty big improvement compared to the 2015, as I have the newer one

[@DrinkWhiskeyRaiseHell]

How does it have better use of space? How is it better equipped? How does it have a better base and stability?

[@marcolloyd2956]

+BTown830 goddamn you ask a lot of questions. Okay so it's got better use of seating in it where you aren't all crowded with each other whereas in this one you're pretty much right up against everyone. The one I have has Bluetooth speakers and a lot of different useful features

[@seanh9190]

Did I just fall in love with this guy? SUBBED

[@squishthebean]

Thanks Dan. Really enjoyed this selfie video.

[@chancho1010]

Remembering all this so I can whip it out appropriately and be a secret master of hot tub knowledge!

[@thechico1979]

thanks for the lesson, if and when I get a hot tub i will make sure to do more research.

[@edgwatson1]

Oh my god I will never know enough to buy a hot tub

[@radzer0966]

Maybe you can answer this one. Costco will get on occasion big brands. Clearwater is one of them. What is the difference in these that they sell? Factory rejects? I know Clearwater sells them to Costco with 0 warranty.

[@openureyes929]

$10,000 is not a cheap hot tub!! But that looked like a very cheap hot tub !! Thanks for the info Chris. I have a 2010 cal spa. Got it used but am happy with it.

[@FamilyDIYtv]

thanks for the info !

[@halcyionic]

"My math, holy jumpin' " All jokes aside, very informative! I'm not exactly a person who's gonna go out and buy a hot tub but if I do I'll be sure to research it more lol

[@Vanessa-rf4tp]

Thanks NSP. I learned something today.

[@951jollyman]

Great video, alot of information

[@shannonreid2497]

I'm probably never going to own a hot tub but this was still a great video

[@MrLadiesfirst]

How sad :(

[@Jagerbomber]

You should do a review about a boat.

[@derekk9202]

great job, Chris!

[@Joey-nq2ec]

Sorry, those aren't suction lines they clamped, they are air lines, pressuerized air lines so clamping makes sense but do agree, water lines should be clamped.

[@chrismin9680]

Thank you for teaching me about hot tubs. And Ill teach you something as well, hold the camera HORIZONTALLY

[@TheDeqiro]

Surprisingly interesting and entertaining.

[@redandjonny]

We love you Chris Wheatley!

[@ericpaquette7674]

Hi Chris, thanks for this great presentation. I bought a Dynasty from Trevi (Trevi Stamina). What can I expect in terms of durability? I am about 6 months in and have a leaky fountain. I tried tightening it and it doesn't stop the leaking. Should I call techs for this or no biggie? I love it so far! Just regret not buying a tub from Costco so that I can 'abuse' the return policy when something breaks. I hear people returning them after 3-4 years to Costco with very few questions asked. I won't be able to do that with my $8,000 Dynasty and I imagine after the 2y mark I can expect some leaks and other repairs (it's a Dynasty after all lol)... My expectations is 5y without any repairs. Hopefully that isn't unreasonable.

[@ChrisWheatley]

Hi Eric. I have never been a big fan of Dynasty see my review here: hottubuniversity.com/dynasty-spa/ That being said I heard the Son took over the business and is trying to improve things so we will have to see if he has the knowledge to fix the issues.

[@aceoblade3978]

Hey Chris, I love you speaking style! Have you ever considered motivational speaking or any sort of public speaking as a career path?

[@habeebinzu]

I purchased a Strong Spa (Costco Brand) in 2014. Everything in this is true and more. Support for the shell is very weak. I've sealed with epoxy 2 cracks just from stepping into it, as well as several seal leaks on jets and around filter.The jets themselves are junk. Replaced the control panel twice. The big problem with this unit is overheating. No matter the setting, it will heat while filtering. Often it overheats at 109 F and shuts down. The included cover was a single wrap cheapo that lasted a year. Don't even get one of the used, it will be nothing but problems.

[@One-ou3xk]

Shell warranty is 10 years - why not make a claim?

[@laurieinjapan]

Great! You really know your stuff about hot tubs! Do you know anything about Japanese style baths/tubs?

[@howlingzen1177]

Holy jumpin', this type of deceit should not be legal!!! I started Googling about this brand when I saw a used one for sale. The guy said he paid $12K for it and was now asking $5K when it was still fairly new. Well now I know why. I am kind of shocked when I didn't think anything could shock me anymore. Can't even trust a hot tub maker. Good grief (that's me trying to not swear here)! Grrrr!!! Thank you soooo much for this video though!!! You rock!!

[@6ec6YRFPTcC]

I have no idea why this video is trending, but I'm watching and waiting for something crazy to happen. meanwhile I'll learn about hot tubs

[@PhatkatCollections]

Actually you can get a 70 jet aquaterra for only 5k.

[@ChrisWheatley]

Yeah but its a piece of crap... dude mass merchants are crap at this product, they have no idea what they are doing. everyone thinks that mass merchants get a good deal on hot tubs and that's why they are priced so well its bullshit... They don't get good deals because they don't sell enough to matter :-) one good dealer will sell more hot tubs than all Costco stores across the US combined... stay the hell away from Mass merchants for hot tubs they are all crap... hottubuniversity.com/where-to-buy/mass-merchants/

[@BrettWae]

Excellent information!

[@nathankarlaraeellis478]

So glad I didn't get a Costco tub!

[@albertsantos47]

watched it even though I don't have a hot tub nice to know?

[@garymcscary5329]

we like the effect of our "air blower" on our hot tub. It's nice

[@johnnysky6699]

Try to find anyone to fix/work on that thing after you get it! You’ll never buy another one!

[@ChrisWheatley]

Actually, they are gold mines for local service companies :-) when I was retailing every time a Home depot or Costco tub got sold in my area and they came in for chemichals I was like woo hoo!!! I made more of fixing the pieces of shit than the mass merchant did selling it :-)

[@25neworleanssaints]

How in the world is this trending???

[@AndrewTheKingOfPenguins]

Reddit

[@dorianjp]

+AndrewTheKingOfPenguins those Reddit fuckheads.

[@Whofan06]

+Julian #1 fan! everybody loves a merchandise conspiracy.

[@ChrisWheatley]

+Justin Naujoks You tell him man :-) frankly half the shit trending makes me wonder "What??? really??? OMG its like the LCD world..."

[@Daddymcgoo2000]

This guy knows his shit

[@arashsamimi6368]

fantastic video.