Two Monkeys Were Paid Unequally: Excerpt from Frans de Waal's TED Talk

[@mikethompson5966]

i love how when he throws the cucumber his imediate reaction is to attempt to tear this box apart to kick the humans ass.

[@GRVTY3]

immediate reaction was to try and take the grape himself haha

[@orangejuice9074]

He said where’s the manager?

[@getintothewildwithjeffruma8777]

That’s exactly what I thought too😂🤣😂

[@lottolinks6394]

@@getintothewildwithjeffruma8777 the worst ever attack on a person was because of this look it up..

[@overlord-6644]

@@lottolinks6394 no, I don’t think I will.

[@AbdisalamFarah391]

I like how it tests the rock as if to say is my currency not genuine rock.

[@c.g.sphotoandvideo.7859]

Abdisalam Farah lmfao

[@nonyabiz9340]

France did this right before the US went off the gold standard.

[@bisvizstudio1242]

i mean, that's genius! he thinks "maybe my rock isn't as good as his rock that's why he gets grapes!"

[@tuckerfetko9355]

1k

[@Ramasenirama]

I want pet rock too !

[@HarryGuit]

The most interesting in these behaviors to me is when the betrayed one checks the stone against the wall before handing it back. That means he formulated a hypothesis on the reason why he didn‘t get the grape, then he checked up on it. That is intelligence!

[@GregLemons]

So weird that we just test with these monkeys. To them we are unpredictable complete overseeing beings that they can’t even begin to understand

[@RagbagMcShag]

And then he realized that humans are cold heartless monsters

[@GregLemons]

@@biggils8894 Science. We eat animals for food, I’d much rather be given a cucumber unfairly than be eaten

[@Barcodez5555]

he questioned himself rather than the authority

[@FredPlanatia]

@@biggils8894 Indeed, it is strange that we have to learn that empathy has biological origins in this way. Be assured that the experiment was reversed and the shunned monkey got some justice, but among humans? A different story.

[@seanmurphy7574]

As funny and relatable as the cucumber monkey’s reaction is here, to me, the really interesting part is that the grape monkey never seems to question the fairness of this setup at all

[@StrongMed]

Grape monkey is so busy enjoying the grapes, it probably doesn't even realize that the friend is getting stuck with cucumbers.

[@sh00kah]

Also the monkeys mad at the scientist, not the other monkey.

[@AriaHarmony]

Busy enjoying the fruit of his labor lol

[@kugashira1018]

As is the case for rich people who become more and more disconnected from reality the longer they are rich, deluding themselves that the world is a meritocracy. It's like the Paul Piff monopoly experiment (also discussed in a Ted talk) where he had pairs of students play an obviously rigged game of monopoly where one player started out with more money and got to roll 2 dice instead of one, allowing them to move around the board faster. After the game, when the students who inevitably won were asked why they had won, they ALL talked about the smart moves they made and the strategies they employed. None of them acknowledged the head start and blatant advantages they were given.

[@amallolecki5158]

i like how we're now referring to them as "grape monkey" and "cucumber monkey"

[@anonymousstout4759]

It all fun and game until the monkey demand for revolution

[@billybong7394]

Be interesting to see what would happen if each of the monkeys had a different phenotype. Also, this isn't "pay", because neither of the monkeys had to do any real work for it? It's a very poor experiment to recreate the real world of work with all the multitude of different factors. This is more akin to a experiment on prisoners being given food.

[@myonlineid5801]

It all fun and game until the monkey rips your face off.

[@dannygjk]

@@billybong7394 In behavioral studies it is SoP to try to test only one factor at a time.

[@matthewmalpeli]

@Jake Shattuck False!

[@anthonyc4138]

@Jake Shattuck lol

[@IvanLubis-SatkerDitBPB]

I love how it hit the rock to the wall to test if there's something wrong about that rock which caused it given the cucumber not grape.

[@FsimulatorX]

😂😂😂

[@saimkhanafridi]

That's the pure innocence, i guess he thought may be its because of his fault.

[@jdsaravaiya6468]

He had enough intellect to self evaluate and think if he is doing it wrong, Many people do not have that trait.

[@_jp_0966]

@@jdsaravaiya6468 we should all return to monke

[@Oneandonlyamirali]

He should have tested the rock on the caregiver instead of the wall 🤣

[@nivledamh]

I love it when he Shakes the bar 2:00 I want justice!

[@ZiFrenZie]

Eric Mane sounds like the type of guy who would willingly become a slave to the government any day.

[@european-one]

@Eric Mane I agree, you are a fucking fruit cake

[@timwilliamson1967]

Good job there wasn't three of them ..they could have formed a Union.

[@gwaiwohng2181]

He wants to leave the country!

[@muath1401]

@Dick Butt what did this Eric say? He deleted his comment before I saw the context

[@iMagicGraalOnline]

I love how the monkey was checking the rock like "Did i give her a defective one?"

[@AirsoftKeksTV]

So the lesson for all CEOs is: Pay everyone shitty and nobody will complain.

[@trkarst82]

You just hit the nail on the head

[@ericbland2]

Or pay everyone based on the value they provide for the company.. and you'll have everyone happy working at their best. And the unskilled or lazy workers will find a job they are good at.

[@davidhowling5889]

That approach seems to work for Amazon!

[@NtoTheM]

@@ok-70707 Ikr, imagine expecting to not be handed more than your work is worth, what a great evil capitalism is! /s

[@xsu-is7vq]

we are getting there.

[@coltukkor]

This is so true. When I finally got a job I was so grateful to have an income I didn’t care how much, just grateful for that regular paycheck. However the moment I found out a few of the other new recruits were making more than me I suddenly felt inferior and betrayed.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Yeah it's relative really if you have 10 million and all your friends have 10 billion you'll feel bad and inferior.

[@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad]

Maybe you should've tried harder and negotiated for a better wage during the interview and hiring phase. You settled and were defeated, and for that you ARE inferior.. Also maybe those other recruits were more experienced for the job and had more time in the field. Maybe they had a better education. There are a lot of different things that companies look at for hiring and pay. We're not going to pay someone off the street with no experience the same that we'll pay for years of prior experience, training, or education (depending on the job) It's on you to negotiate for a better wage during the interview and if you don't do that the hiring manager isn't going to just offer more than base pay.

[@coltukkor]

@@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad To be clear I’ve rationalized the reasoning for it it in my head. I’m not here to pass blame. I was just referring my primal instinctive yearning for equality and how I related to our friend in the video.

[@I61void]

Grapeful*

[@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad]

@@coltukkor That's the problem. Nobodies equal to anyone and people need to stop thinking everyone's equal and should be awarded equally. Awards should be based on merits, effort, experience, and qualifications.

[@TheLastSpartan04]

Employers are well aware of this, why do you think they insist you don’t tell your coworkers how much you get paid?

[@_IcyCube_]

Exactly, which is why you should let your coworkers know how much you're making. You could have agreed to get a pay of 15$ an hour while someone working just as long as you doing the same work is making 16$ an hour, but because you both are afraid of telling each other what you're making, you end up getting cheated and not knowing it.

[@tylerhughes5420]

@@_IcyCube_ except its not cheating... if you agree to work at a wage then thats that. No one is forcing you to do it its not soviet Russia if you feel you can sell your labor for more then go do it no one is stopping you. Plus this line of thought completely ignores the biggest reason for wage dissparity which is competency and reliability. If you and i both work at the same job for a year and you show up everyday and allways do a good job but i call out and do an average job and then our reviews go around we both come up for raises and you get a dollar and i dont then is it unfair that we have a different wage? Of course this can be used to take advantage of people like only giving white employees raises simply because theyre white or men simply because theyre men without giving consideration to the quality of their work this is illegal and has serious consequences if proven to be true. But to assume that all wage disparities are results of inherit biases or discrimination is not only false but dangerous misinformation.

[@ThaMagnaCarta]

@@tylerhughes5420 dude brought up 15 dollars for a reason.. he must be one of THOSE people.

[@tylerhughes5420]

@@ThaMagnaCarta you mean those people that are about to force the automation thats gonna eliminate thier job all together? Lol i dont know if he is he may just be misinformed i try not to judge and offer information.

[@vinylsp]

My wife kept insisting I go to the company we sub-contracted with and demand more money. My gut instinct said not to. We were making very, very good money and I didn’t want to jeopardize that. We didn’t know what the others sub-contractors were making but I was ok with the gamble. She was sure we were getting “cheated” so after six months of this I brought it up. It was embarrassing. I originally negotiated the contract with us being paid at the top of the industry standard. They were ok to keep paying it because we were their best sub. Our renegotiation meeting was overheard by another sub who pitched a fit. It didn’t matter that we did a better job and had no returns to fix mistakes or damage. They didn’t bring the other subs to our pay scale, nay, nay! WE got lowered to everyone else’s pay. I should have followed my instincts!!! It cost us more than $300k over the course of three years. If you’re doing good and are happy shut up and earn your pay. Too many employees waste their employers time and money complaining to their co-workers who really don’t want to hear their whining! After the Crash of ‘07-‘08 we were the last subs contract to be canceled. We stayed their best and it paid off in the end. It just would have been nice to have had the extra pile cash .💰

[@ZsebtelepHUN]

I am amazed how intelligent they are. The one who gets the cucumber actually bangs it against the wall, testing it, because she thinks there must be something wrong with it for getting cucumber instead of grapes. So her rock must be lacking in quality according to her thoughts. Thats an insanely high level of intelligence for me. Crazy. Being able to identify the inequality, being able to understand that this must have a cause, and trying to find it. And im not sure that she tests it, maybe shes showing it to the doctor like "see, my stone is as good too, gimme grapes!" Just awesome and crazy.

[@benw4361]

Similar to humans being passed for promotions, being paid less, or not being given a raise or bonus, some will attribute it to their own short coming. It's a mentality that is pervasive in America, the idea that you are in complete control of your destiny and not a monkey inside of a cage who will get cucumbers no matter what you do because that is the life you were born into while the monkey next to you will have to do nothing and always get grapes.

[@kx7500]

That’s a reach. No evidence they thought that deeply, they could have just been angry

[@ash3rr]

I'm amazed at how intelligent you are.

[@majormarketing6552]

Monkey cant speak english but is smarter than many people here cough blm

[@KenzertYT]

@@kx7500 It is not a "reach" it is a "hypothesis" and you are in the wrong place to be assuming anyone is "reaching." That being said, if the behavior wasn't at least in part focused on the rock itself, the monkey would only have grabbed the glass or thrown things like it already did. The rock was an extra factor and there is enough evidence to form a reasonable hypothesis that there is a consideration behavior happening. But hey, tHaT's A ReACh.

[@ckbs1]

Scientifically proven: Grapes are tastier than cucumbers

[@albertaddai130981]

ckbs1: no, the 1st monkey (cucumber monkey lol) hasn't tasted the grape yet so how does it prove that the grape is better tasting? the one and only reason 1st monkey is asking for grape is that he's doing the same work as the 2nd monkey and so everyone must get same reward (either cucumber or grapes). If 2nd monkey was given a cucumber, 1st monkey wouldn't care about the grapes. lol

[@mrpndaman129]

@@albertaddai130981 just stfu and enjoy the joke

[@albertaddai130981]

@@mrpndaman129 dumbass lol...hurt and ignorant buffoon. can't deal with facts and reasoning.

[@r.i.p.actavis2599]

Albert You don’t laugh dude, you must have always been the last person that was “it” during a game of tag and then everyone ended the game lmao

[@albertaddai130981]

@@r.i.p.actavis2599 facts hurts lolz

[@Kevin-yp7yk]

You're laughing. He was given cucumber instead of grapes and you're laughing

[@hehemvro9837]

😂😂

[@real_Gi]

The laughing hurts even more.

[@MarcillaSmith]

And to think that this video is shown to an even higher intellect which marvels at the cruelty of the hairless primates towards the others

[@otter666]

*"u think it's a joke hoooman??"*

[@jspright5226]

Oh lighten up you depressing saps. The other monkey received grapes after the experiment. People are laughing because there is hunour in comparing human behaviour to that of an animal's.

[@bLacKdRaSanG]

I like the way it checks the second stone to see if it's real. pretty smart.

[@Last.Dark.Emperor]

Smarter than most of humans

[@Mote78]

Good catch. As if he wanted to confirm it and say, “Yes it’s a rock, look lady, are you as dumb as this rock? Give me a grape”. I heard that in one of these studies they put the chimps together and the one that only got cucumbers beat up the one that got grapes. Jealousy. Very human like emotions.

[@GrandRiserOfficial]

@@Mote78 dogs do that too lol

[@aceshadowins1310]

Drasang yea smarter than yo dumbass. Only a dumbass will know one.

[@AlexiasPlaylist]

How would the monkey even be able to tell it's fake from a simple tap on the wall? Second inequity is not as simple as "jealousy". If a mofos eating better than me constantly when we both put in the same work and I get upset it's not because Im "jealous", I'm fucking pissed theirs inequality.

[@ThunderPants13]

I love how he pounds on the table, as if to say "I demand restitution!"

[@m.mccormack2026]

"Madam. I require satisfaction."

[@nodinitiative]

I wonder if they did an experiment on which both monkeys are given the same reward but one monkey is given more task than the other one.

[@Ganjaseed]

+nodinitiative Just read up on communism.

[@khoitrananh6461]

You came from a communist country?

[@TherminCZ]

+I wow, have to watch it, man this gave me goosebumps and warmed my heart...

[@johnnyllooddte3415]

they eventually all slow down and quit.. that is the lib communist socialist model.. what you just saw was the NORMAL, i want to get paid for hard work model that is normal in all creatures and capitalism

[@Lukeeiiee]

they already did this experiment in the real world. they call it "men"

[@jspin1103]

Zero reaction from the lab tech. She’s a pro.

[@macs-13]

No soul

[@pranav95satan]

@@macs-13 No Pain

[@Fectivan]

She’s use to it. 😏

[@Primalxbeast]

P A I N She stays neutral so that her reactions don't add an extra variable to the experiment.

[@MrSlowestD16]

No shit, but how u stay neutral with something like that? I was rofl'ing over here.

[@efcon8646]

I think the most sad part was when the monkey tapped the rock on the wall. It reminded me of a human, not getting paid or treated fairly, and asking what is he doing wrong.

[@_annoyed4692]

_Ktonk!_ Yes... a normal rock. Nothing wrong with it. A normal, _hard_ rock. Much harder than a cucumber, human...

[@themesswascurly1]

This comment!

[@thooper4380]

@Efcon no, the "most sad part" is the monkey thinking that handing a rock that doesn't belong to them through a hole in their cage to someone is somehow worth a cucumber, let alone a grape.

[@KumoGoesFast]

@@thooper4380 the sad part is your life

[@timmytutone5386]

@@KumoGoesFast which part of their life is sad? The part where they decided to troll a communist YT comment, or the part where they Alabama hot pocketed your mom?

[@profcpbl]

RIP Frans de Waal (1948-2024). Thank you for all the insights you gave us, and all the love you spread.

[@KerryHopkins]

He was an animal abuser you nutter

[@swampwiz]

This is a video that will live on as internet lore forever.

[@GeneralCane]

"Why do I have to wear the mask for this experiment?" Guy with eyepatch: "Just take my word for it."

[@Smiley957]

GeneralCane Lmao at least one good joke in the comments 😂

[@MrPabgon]

Your profile pic enhances the comedy of your comment

[@ImmersiveDragon]

Lol had me on this one

[@Dbjjr26]

Lmfao

[@paidikaparamuthia]

😂😂😂

[@terjeoseberg990]

And this is exactly why your employer doesn’t want you discussing your salary with your coworkers.

[@reynavillarreal3407]

Dude I did this once 😭 I started a whole conversation with like 5 co workers and how much we get paid. They were all pissed cause we had the same job but we're getting paid differently

[@terjeoseberg990]

@@reynavillarreal3407, LOL

[@horseradish4046]

You get paid the salary you're willing to do the work for. If you're not willing to work for that salary, you either leave or demand a raise. It's actually one of the simplest concepts that exists.

[@harxist]

@@markedwards7721 I’ve found an incel in their natural habitat.

[@harxist]

@@horseradish4046 Pretty simple huh? Is not like someone in desperate need of money, working a minimum wage job could be threatened to be replaced in a second by someone in their exact same situation willing to replace them. Because ultimately having some money is always better than having none.

[@theirishninjasanimations]

I love how you can see the exact moment he decides "Nah, I'm not putting up with this."

[@MikeBarbarossa]

The slamming his hand on the floor was definitely " gimme my damn grape!"

[@klotehater]

Its funny to see a woman enabling unequal pay to female monkyes hahahaha

[@Lee-rx8mi]

right?

[@jadapinkett1656]

​@@anonb0 Triggered

[@jevthompson9044]

Don't take the v@ccine trust in the LORD ALMIGHTY and if you already taken it please pray to GOD about it because it is a deception!!!!

[@TheRareCriticalThinker]

I remember a year into my company I got a raise from 38k to 60k. Obviously a tremendous jump as they initially didn’t know my skill set with no prior education or experience. A few months later we hired another person for my same role and they started at 85k and aren’t very good about 2 years in now. They do have a BS degree… and I’m working on mine now. The frustration was real

[@krubbek5135]

i have a PhD and am the only and I make significantly more than others and I work much less. i don't feel bad because i add value and its not my fault others are underpaid. knowing the system is rigged it is your responsibility to play the system, nobody will give you free lunch. game the system or you will be gamed.

[@SweetZombiJesus]

@@krubbek5135 I hope English isn't your first language, otherwise I doubt you have a PhD with such awful grammar.

[@ragnar704]

It's true that you didn't create this system, and that you've found a way to game it to your benefit. But I'd caution you that this benefit is short term. In the long term, your coworkers who are getting the shaft are going to dislike you and won't have your back. And why should they? You don't have theirs, and you're making that clear.

[@TheRareCriticalThinker]

@@krubbek5135 Bingo. This is where I'm at. I am actually wrapping up my degree in a few months... I rather play the stupid game then sit around and complain about how unfair it is

[@jevthompson9044]

Don't take the v@ccine trust in the LORD ALMIGHTY and if you already taken it please pray to GOD about it because it is a deception!!

[@shananagans5]

I did my internship with a psychiatrist that had a monkey & it went everywhere with him, including the office. I did this little trick where I had a banana chip up my sleeve and I would rub my hands, clap them together and make the chip appear. I then gave it to the monkey. After doing this for a while it became an every morning ritual. When other people in the office were out of treats, the monkey understood they don't have one to give to him. Well, the first morning I showed up with no banana chip, he grabbed my hands and rubbed them together, then made my hands clap, then he checked for a banana chip. No chip. He then did the motions with his hands as if telling me to do it. I did it but still no chip. He got angry at me. He didn't understand I didn't have a chip to give him because, over time, he believed I could make one appear at will. He didn't understand I didn't have any, he just thought I was being mean. lol I used my lunch hour to go buy banana chips.

[@mikeedwards4436]

I don’t blame you for getting some banana chips on your lunch, I hope that made the monkey happy... did he try to hurt you when he was angry? Thanks for sharing the story

[@shananagans5]

@@mikeedwards4436 He never bit me. It was kind of funny when he was irritated with you because he picked up the finger point thing. When Todo (the monkey) was in trouble the Dr. would point at him and say your a bad boy. Todo copied that gesture and if he was mildly angry, or irritated with someone, he would point and shake his finger at you. It was hilarious but if you laughed he realized you were laughing at him and then he would go into a fit. If he was really angry, he would just pitch a fit. He would jump around, shake things, scream, sometimes he would slap the desk or table in front of you. Even well behaved monkeys pitch a fit on occasion, I mean, they are monkeys. The Dr. called it a "proper monkey fit". Give him a few mins and throw raisins in the room. He would calm down and spend a few mins hunting the raisins scattered in the room and he was good as new. lol I sure loved that little guy but I don't have the time to take care of one.

[@mikeedwards4436]

shananagans5 Heck well behaved humans pitch a fit time to time lol. I really appreciate your story, that’s so cool, I’d love to be around one if I knew it was safe. I live in Georgia, north of Atlanta. I have never seen one out side Atlanta zoo. They have so many qualities that no other animal has. The are so human like. They are clearly half human like in their manner and body and half wild animal. Were you in a school in the states? It’s funny that they like raisins and grapes over cucumbers. My youngest child has a Guinea pig and I usually feed him cucumbers and I tried grapes and he loves them. Lol, not near as smart as a monkey but good food is good food.

[@englishlanguagewithnina5965]

Awww, hahaha. I am so glad you went and honored your part of the bargain and got some more banana chips! :)

[@markschiavone8003]

shananagans5 who's training who lol

[@christhis9597]

Imagine that, the one who gets more doesnt mind the other one getting less.

[@narcis3720]

@overgrow00 read a book

[@christhis9597]

Charles Grguras that was the point. Nobody cares about inequality, unless they are affected by it, negatively.

[@177SCmaro]

@@christhis9597 um....you mean beside an entire generation now who aren't actually effected by the inequalities they whinge about it endlessly on social media but still want victim points anyways? I'm pretty sure not every sjw running around on the very expensive day-care centers we laughingly call "colleges" or "universities" nowadays are not personally negatively effected by every inequality they complain about but oh, boy do they just care so much about said "inequalities".

[@shivshankredemption5024]

@@christhis9597 no shit moron this is obvious to everyone.

[@dawniebug784]

They might need to experience the misfortune of not getting a grape first before showing empathy towards the one who doesn't get a grape. Stage 2 is a go!

[@xkboy987]

"WHAT IS THIS INJUSTICE?!?!? DONT FUCK WITH ME, SARAH!!"

[@Gobbygiblet]

Lol!

[@ItsmeKC]

water drinker

[@thomaslacroix6011]

I'm willing to bet that except some stress, animals used in sociologic experiments (no biology or chemistry) have an easier and more confortable life than most of us and wouldn't want to live in the wilds.

[@Henilegasp]

Lol!

[@PennTankerGuy]

I just love the personality of the monkey. The way he winds up the throw and slams his hand against the table is hilarious.

[@victorburnett6329]

This may be the same reason babies throw their food - they think they're getting screwed when they see you eat waffles and syrup while they get flavorless mush.

[@nres1]

Ummmmm

[@danielwalker26]

For a while my niece wouldn't eat if you were looking at her. We were out at a restaurant and we all happened to be looking at her right before she took a bite of her food. She noticed we were all looking when she had the food in her mouth about to take a bite and stopped.....then threw the food across the table.

[@cesarsantana7563]

@@danielwalker26LOL

[@wokk9543]

@@danielwalker26 LMAO WTF

[@Chadw1cKed]

You are what you eat. And babies are an equivalent to flavorless mush. So, tell that baby to fuck off.

[@danielhsu2087]

Love how the other one is just lavishly enjoying its grapes and flexing 😂

[@paulsmith-gi5vm]

Lol its loving the special VIP treats!

[@mosesm6040]

paul smith The 1% with the tax cut! etc... The favoured group always choose to be ignorant about the entire system of unfairness and blatant discrimination!

[@Eagleorify]

@overgrow00 BS, you talk about tax cuts when most of them don't even pay taxes. They have loophles to avoid taxes. They are also favored in other ways like Fed money printing, govt regulations, etc.

[@asneakychicken322]

@overgrow00 the rich need to be taxed way more, especially billionaires, through things like capital gains tax. And regulations are all that's stopping corporations and the rich from completely butt fucking everyone more than they do already. Look up historical tax rates from the 20th Century and see how downhill we've gone. Fuck Reagan and trickle down economics.

[@terdfergeson23]

Lavish actually means sharing what you can with others. So no that monkey was not living lavishly

[@algorithmicimpedance]

Thats why you never know a payment of other staff members in company

[@MaxVliet]

Or it could be an example of how equal work deserves equal pay!

[@abdallaahmed780]

This is a tactic to prevent unions. People need to know what their colleagues make for the same work

[@tns226]

Only the company benefits from this lack of knowledge. If pay was open, then inequality wouldn't be allowed to exist because we'd all go ape shit cucumber throwing crazy about it and have evidence to back it up.

[@Zauchi]

most jobs have equal pay, it's the higher positions, commission based, money (banks, stocks etc) and media jobs where pay becomes different depending on what you bring to the table.

[@sayno2BIGgovernment]

tns226 then why not just ask if you want to know

[@0atommie1]

RIP Frans de Waal, and thank you for your many contributions to science

[@deem7478]

What an amazing zoologist.

[@KerryHopkins]

He was an evil animal abuser who enslaved animals in tiny prisons.

[@DJSnafu]

noooooooooo i wasn't aware. His books literally changed my life

[@Xtiansldrs]

He actually stopped to TEST the rock “first”..before giving it to her...to assure he’d get a grape. Damn, even MONKEYS have an innate sense of Quality Control. That speaks more volumes than the actual test. Sheer genius.

[@benshoemaker1318]

This says a lot about our society

[@travismailsa1]

Cant be chinese

[@akhilthomas5713]

Monkeys are better ...humans silently suffer injustice.

[@Chris-yw2zp]

What was the purpose of testing the rock?

[@knmrd7639]

@@Chris-yw2zp to see that the monkey was willing to show that the rock will be intact after smashing it, just like what humans do in tech demos/tests to ensure that the product was in great condition while being taped before selling it to people

[@PWNSonTHEwii]

Love how this talk occurred 8 years ago atleast and people are still surprised when people are leaving jobs and refusing careers that aren't properly compensated

[@ShoutsWillEcho1]

People are leaving jobs and refusing uncompensated careers?

[@j.t.3798]

There's always someone in the world that doesn't even have a cucumber. I bet he plays the Rick game

[@jomama3804]

Your replacements are crossing the border by the millions as we speak.

[@zed739]

@@jomama3804 thank god, my whole town is white. We don't have anyone who's willing to put in a day's work without crying like a bitch about how other people don't have it hard enough

[@LOLLYPOPPE]

@@zed739 why do you think white countries are the best countries?

[@captauron4514]

I work in a nursing home as a CNA (Nursing assistant) and get paid slightly above minimum wage. The place I work is in desperate need of CNAs to care for the patients, so they brought in registry CNAs to fill in. These registry CNAs we’re getting between $26-$28 an hour while the regular employees get paid $16. Needless to say, we asked for equal pay in which they replied, “you agreed to your current pay when you signed the contract.” Well guess what? Many of the CNAs quit and the Nursing home was filled with registry CNAs who were not accustom to the policy while getting paid quite nicely (if they just paid their employees the same rate, they wouldn’t need registry CNAs). The place has not fully recover and their 5* rating dropped to a 2. I won’t be surprise if the place close down.

[@thomasjohansson5748]

And you didn't respect the contract you had signed.

[@dinoaurus1]

​@@thomasjohansson5748you are allowed to quit, no contract being broken.

[@swampwiz]

@@thomasjohansson5748 Uh, American labor law is that an employment contract can be terminated by either side for any legal reason.

[@bimasetyaputra8381]

​@@thomasjohansson5748and? Its not illegal to quit lmao

[@misskarmen]

@thomasjohansson5748 Really? I find this comment disingenuous. There is no way you would have continued working there with that wide of a disparity so why would you expect others to do so. It was a management decision and they made the wrong decision and the patients suffered. I don’t exactly understand why the people getting paid more could at least do the level of work that the lower paid employees were capable of. Even if they quit and went to another job, paying exactly the same amount of money because that’s what the industry was paying that outcome would be better than staying at the same job, knowing that someone doing the same work as you were getting paid double amount of money that you were getting paid especially after asking for an increase in pay. That’s intolerable because of one’s sense of fairness has been violated.

[@aIkaIi]

1:56 I like how he aims first before throwing

[@vibrane8800]

He would be an gamer monkey

[@jeetm9603]

@@vibrane8800 or join military

[@something1135]

@@jeetm9603 monkey with gun what will he shoot

[@Cuktisntfunny]

He Gotta hit his target

[@j.b.8800]

Another throw was thrown right back into the cucumber bowl

[@deshaunlivefit6994]

Employers knows this!... this is why they don’t want employees sharing pay information with one another 😐

[@SarahlovesSerge]

Deshaun Livefit that is very true!!!!!

[@handlerrezeiunclehan9402]

Yeah, that makes sense

[@emilyl3952]

Yup it promotes sexism and racism in the work place

[@theartemisgland]

@@emilyl3952 no, it promotes cost saving. racism or sexism is cucumber monkey giving name to specific form of inequality while it has nothing to do with them. how? pay level depends on your capacity to negotiate not made up idea that emplozers rule by some unknown hierarch of pay based on the explanations the cucumber monkey does.

[@seyamrahman1002]

@@theartemisgland its not cost saving if all the money they saved goes directly to the employers bank

[@XabioArts]

This is the vid the monkeys are going to show in the 2122 revolution

[@sabriyazaman1657]

BYE THIS HAS ME LAUGHING

[@aliasc-4185]

omg this is so accurate. on that note I wished for both monkeys to get grapes and be released. 👀 please spare my descendants

[@tutumazibuko2510]

Love your videos Xabio

[@paulsavage4777]

Or huge impulse to make Planet of Apes

[@abhinandhrajeev6335]

666 likes, the devil's number. I want to like your comment but I cannot ruin this number 😂

[@kingtide1947]

Yes, it’s fascinating watching your daily life in a 3 min video. If you have a boss, you are one of those monkeys, doesn’t matter if you get grapes or cucumbers. You have a master, telling you what to do to get a treat.

[@neptuneai8168]

Do you think being a business owner is really any different? Instead of being ruled by your employer, you are ruled by your customers and shareholders. Do you see all these billion dollar companies going woke to be considered brand-safe and advertiser friendly?

[@charlsalash]

​@@neptuneai8168 Having an employer doesn't mean that you don't have to also satisfy clients. I'm self employed, nobody below me, nobody above me, it really cuts the bullshit. I still have to deal with clients, but it 's on my own terms.

[@kidpeligro7878]

First monkey shaking the cage be like: "B!tch, I swear to God if you don't give me a grape..."

[@willamestrada1121]

Hahahahahaha

[@Lee-rx8mi]

Truly...after schooling every ignorant comment on this page...truly, my first response was your last responders comment...hahahahahahaha. I just want so badly to send this to Mr. ...... ,( my boss) and show him...and Then tell him Never to talk to his own daughter the way he talks to her when handing me my own well earned paycheck. Truly, I feel like saying..."Bitch, I swear to God if you dont stop talking /threatening your own daughter ...treating her like a cage monkey,...every time I get paid-that is so unnecessary... thank you Kid Pelagro for telling it

[@DutchObserver]

I've read about these experiments. Apparently there were even cases where the favored monkey refused the grapes when he saw that the other monkey was only getting cucumber.

[@zeeone4492]

Communist monkey

[@wrongthinkthunk]

For fear of getting torn apart by the other monkey lol

[@chasedaniels7273]

A sign of patriotism

[@hairlessape5107]

@@chasedaniels7273 Empathy, solidarity, certainly nothing to do with patriotism.

[@jasoninirllife]

@@cartobsidian4667 they already said that at first they have both cucumber and they enjoyed it

[@mechanicgray]

When they get back to the group the one who got grapes is getting whooped.

[@siderofficial]

Climbaholic 😂😂

[@Asep-oc4kk]

dant 2 c. ca2 b

[@seanmichaels8060]

Capuchins are egalitarianists. Capitalists are not. It's that simple. Anybody who argues is brainwashed.

[@Shinobi33]

Climbaholic yep😂 that grape eating bitch is getting his ass whooped for cooperating.

[@guitarofdestiny]

Climbaholic yeah, he's what the protestors would call a "scab"

[@cheerfulspirit9876]

This is truly fascinating, I would love to know if they waited a while then switched monkeys to see what behavior parallels there were. The testing so quickly of the rock for worth was surprising. Either this shows amazing intelligence or we should consider decent intelligence more common than we consider it now, maybe raise OUR game. Now lets talk about the human willing to calmly pass a rock to a CLEARLY agitated, very cute, but very strong little being, just one foot away that has twice demonstrated the ability to throw things with accuracy reaching target attainment.

[@The_Kirk_Lazarus]

Why do you think she was wearing the shield? It was probably for more than just blocking germs.

[@HakashinTruth]

Then u get monkey WW1

[@jevthompson9044]

Please don't accept the digit@l currency or the Artifici@l intelligence (ai) system that is coming, it is against GOD. who have ears let him hear.

[@jevthompson9044]

JESUS is coming soon and JESUS is the only way to salvation accept JESUS as your LORD and SAVIOR today!

[@jevthompson9044]

Don't take the v@ccine trust in the LORD ALMIGHTY and if you already taken it please pray to GOD about it because it is a deception!

[@scottys1423]

It started as simple behavioral research. 1000 years later Charlton Heston discovers the half-buried Statue of Liberty on the beach.

[@bananaborealis9515]

lmao good one

[@killuauchiha1754]

😂😂😂

[@justicewarrior9187]

Imagine he discovered 2 girls 1 cup on the internet 1000 years from now..

[@Cheese2659]

A cool book idea

[@GothicElf68]

LOL nice joke

[@gnagyusa]

I can totally relate. At my previous job, I was getting "cucumbers" for a more complex job than others who got grapes, were doing. Thankfully, I got an offer from another company, for "grapes".

[@ChrisM-qo1jc]

or maybe u were so bad at your job that u dont even realize how difficult the others' jobs were and u thought u were doing more

[@nuttybar9]

Wouldn't you rather work for money instead?

[@MasterTSE]

@@nuttybar9 lol good one

[@ronlyon4645]

you can just sleep with the boss and get a honeydew instead of grapes.

[@Wabbelpaddel]

@@ChrisM-qo1jc Often it just takes looking like how the employer cunt doesnt like

[@rreidnauer]

To be honest, they were both overpaid.

[@StofStuiver]

Thats may be, but it wont make the left one less pissed off.

[@freedoniaofficial1189]

The left one was clearly underpaid, a cucumber is not a valid calorie source for a monkey, it isn't even a calorie source at all, it is just fiber and water with some minerals. Of course a hungry monkey gets pissed off and wants actual calorically dense food. This isn't analogous to workers making wages as the commies want it to be.

[@StofStuiver]

@@freedoniaofficial1189 Some 'scientists' at present dont know the difference between a relation and a causal relation. I shit you not.

[@rneumeye]

Yeah. Everybody knows handing someone a rock is only worth a piece of kale at most. 🤓

[@spk0988]

Because you are getting peanuts?

[@someartguy4177]

It’s so amazing seeing how the left capuchin expressed complex emotions like doubt, confusion, anger, jealousy, rebellious, while the right capuchin showed almost no emotions.

[@misskarmen]

@someartguy4177 Honestly, did the one receiving the grape even notice that the other one was not receiving a grape also. Perhaps I missed the part where it noticed. I thought it was just so thrilled and getting grapes. They didn’t notice. I just assumed they both were still getting the same treat.

[@cloudshifter]

​@@misskarmen You hit bullseye. The one getting the grapes thought the other was getting them too and was disconnected from reality. That's exactly what's happening today with wealthy people that barely do anything calling Tigers lazy and even laying off employees for "not doing enough" when they already running 24/7 left and right

[@fetts4ck849]

I loke how the woman wears protection for her face... she knew that “something“ would be thrown at her ^^

[@iambrax9468]

Just like a leftist.

[@JesiAsh]

She should be happy that there was no poo nearby~

[@kickbam213]

Its because of the possibility of rock being thrown at her.. Thats why her face is still facing him when She feeds other capuchin

[@DoggoWillink]

I loke that too. Sorry I had to.

[@Autogenification]

I mean it's just general lab health and safety, especially dealing with animals and food at the same time

[@jamesmiller2521]

Apparently scientists found out that the second monkey thinks that he received grapes because he's really good at giving back rocks

[@ibrahimkhatib1554]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@halfpetcat]

@@ibrahimkhatib1554 and the updated version of this is bussiness man tells the success stories !

[@gamerboyss5310]

@Paulo Eusebio gg EZ

[@MrCmon113]

You think rich people make more because people randomly give them money? Or do they have more, because people buy their products?

[@wiopcjq6208]

@@MrCmon113 they were given more grapes from the start, if you can understand the analogy

[@James-vl2hh]

The monkeys are the staffs, the person who feed them is the CEO, and those peoples sitting in the room laughing at them are the shareholders

[@monopalle5768]

Except humans have choice of career... You aren't actually locked in by anyone, you can even leave the country if you want. Live on a sail boat. It's your choice.

[@lennyface2586]

ok

[@mranonyms5901]

@@monopalle5768 yeah but its the same scenario in every workplace, the only escape from the system is to stop working or make your own company

[@JustinAbroad]

@@mranonyms5901 Exactly

[@MrRowntree27]

Holy crap this video really brought the sad little commies out of their holes...

[@PanzerShrek94]

I love how he throws it and shakes the cage "Dam you woman!!"

[@m.mccormack2026]

Exactly. Hilarious. "Don't MAKE me get out of this cage, Linda. This just got PERSONAL." God. I just hope the poor monkey doesn't call HR...

[@mikeyh0]

There was also a study of larger groups of chimps where actual coins were given as a reward for tasks. The coins could be traded for various fruits, etc. There were approximately 30 in the study evenly divided between males and females who were allowed to roam freely in the compound. After a couple weeks a certain female had acquired most of the coins from the males who were looking a bit underfed.

[@NoobieSnake]

So what does that imply? The female chimp prostituted herself to all the males? I wonder what all the tasks were and what did each task paid and such.

[@midnattssol8329]

@@NoobieSnake she invested in the monkey stock market following the cucumber bubble popping and made a fortune

[@jadeddragon4254]

@@NoobieSnake jack and Jill went up the hill both with a buck and a quarter, Jill came down with $2.50 is what he is implying.

[@NoobieSnake]

@@jadeddragon4254 Oh I see, just a game of betting and Jill won then. Cool.

[@NoobieSnake]

@@midnattssol8329 That’s what I thought, thanks.

[@3Demon100]

"Stop playin Linda, fucking give me the grape"

[@GrymligastPS4]

+The Oily Boily Guy Lol. "You lucky this panel is here Linda"

[@BleedForTheWorld]

+swagforcheapcom - "Know your privilege, Linda"

[@CRIS6629]

u think this is funny?? there ia a placed monkey island where thousands of monkeys roam. I need to go there and kick those motherfuckers across the field. If you do hit 1 of them 100 come at u only if u show fear tho stand yoir ground and they stop chasing u like cowards. In china they are allover like squirells. I wish i was there with a full auto paintball gun or bbgun everyday id just open my window and targrt practice.... who needs xbox or clubbing or bars or leaving the house when all u need is a full auto bbgun or roman candles and all you need is to open a window set some food on the floor and its pure heaven!!!!!!!! THEY ARE NOT ANIMALS OR HUMANS SO THEY MUST BE DEMONS.

[@Radamila78]

YOU ARE AN A-HOLE WITH JUNKY BRAIN!

[@0MVR_0]

She does look like Linda.

[@easyengineering8976]

Lets face it. They both are paid actors, thats all.

[@commissarkitty3553]

Yes but one was paid more than the other.

[@sauml932]

Swan salty?

[@thereborne5219]

thats what i tough

[@Jiteko]

Swan how about you make one yourself if it makes you cry so much

[@easyengineering8976]

@@Jiteko thank you mate.

[@chrismcphail5378]

"The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves." - Niccolo Machiavelli

[@michaelatcheson4816]

This is why we should all talk about how much we get paid with our co-workers. It’s always been considered taboo and I always wondered why. Now I believe it is a deep-rooted cultural thing, given to us by our overlords who truly fear the day we poor bastards realize they need us more than we need them.

[@hairlessape5107]

Impolite to talk about religion and politics some say. Much the same reason, and absolutely we need to talk about religion and politics.

[@zagreus5773]

​@@hairlessape5107 The rich don't want you to talk about important topics, it might make you want to unionize and change the system that made them rich.

[@TizerisT.]

Yeah my old workplace used to do that, my response was no, we should talk about it

[@MaxVliet]

I believe in full transparency when it comes to who gets paid what.

[@rawbacon]

My coworkers do a third the work I do on their best days, their pay and my pay have no relevance to each other.

[@jacksont9455]

2022: “Why are you quitting?” “BECAUSE YOU TREAT ME LIKE A CUCUMBER MONKEY!”

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

Lol

[@abdulabadkumbati664]

Can we just admire that this video is 2:44 long, just goes straight to the point 💯

[@StaccatoRedFox]

Refreshing nowadays

[@elgrifo3011]

ur mom

[@eleSDSU]

@@champspec you have so little knowledge of economics that is not even funny. I strongly suggest you read some Adam Smith to brush up on free market Capitalism and then understand why you are wrong in multiple levels by reading/listening to Michael Parenti or Richard Wolff, there are many others but, IMO, they have the most simple way to tackle these subjects.

[@psychologienerd7546]

@@champspec interesting the way you put it, it seems that capitalism is almost genetic, inevitable

[@thesampsoninstitute]

People's attention spans have decreased massively

[@robm5958]

The thought that entered my mind was that there is a species out there that views us as those monkeys and I find that so fascinating.

[@high_sky8581]

No need for a species, bosses from huge companies most probably just viewed their workers at the lower levels as monkeys and can easily be replaceable.

[@yevernotice9408]

Yes, they are called devils and they control the people of this world through spiritual means. The only way out is through faith in Jesus Christ. God in the flesh, who lived the perfect life and died for our sins, taking our punishment for sin on himself. He rose again the third day and appeared to 500 eye witnesses who had nothing to gain from lying. Salvation is by Grace through faith and is a free Gift. Not of works, lest any man should boast.

[@robm5958]

.... You doing okay? @@yevernotice9408

[@kaystephan2610]

"YE CAN KEEP YE BLOODEY KHUKOOMBER, *AMANDA* !!"

[@krishnateja7728]

Kay Stephan 😂

[@Cheese2659]

lmaoo

[@nicky-buckets]

Scottish money, alright then lmao

[@brandonmatthews6638]

xD

[@raycharles1982]

Yoooo Comment Of The Year. I'm Deaddd😂😂😂

[@KingreX32]

"Fuck off wit your cucumbers, gimmie the grape"

[@colonelfrost8]

WHT?

[@PhoenixPrime]

XD

[@Lesenseidejaponais]

Hope it was freed from its cage

[@fireflytwd9240]

Did one monkey only work 8 hours while the other would stay over? Did one monkey get pregnant and take time off after the pregnancy? Was one monkey willing work manually labor job that needed heavy lifting and put them in harms way? Just asking because the point you are trying to make is woman and men don't make the same.

[@MrNastytrucker44]

Uramichi it was used for cosmetics testing after this, then put down with a hammer after that

[@giorgiobarone2741]

But did he get grapes after the video?

[@SeeSeeSound]

Giorgio Barone hopefully

[@abeyjose1144]

Giorgio Barone ......you have a caring mind

[@giorgiobarone2741]

abey jose thanks

[@RessG]

No, he waddled away waddle waddle

[@tom_something]

No, the police broke up his protest.

[@pubwvj]

I have lived and worked with wolves for over thirty years. They count up to twelve and are aware of equality, greater and less with larger numbers. They are extremely aware of fairness in rewards, payment. It is sort of okay if a higher rank wolf gets paid some more but very bad if a lower rank wolf gets paid more.

[@kamranshabanov8188]

Anyone come here after reading Homo Deus?

[@howiechen4413]

kamran shabanov yes

[@raulbarbuceanu924]

probably the best book I have read this year

[@rabiabasree2716]

yayyyyyyyyyyyy :)

[@blondeadd]

yes

[@kristofp3350]

Welcome. Now I see why wide perception with knowledge can change how you see a reality

[@mellyea1748]

Throw your paycheck back at the boss and see what happens.

[@wildmandann]

Mell Yea nothing hell probably just give the piece of paper back and say you forgot this

[@andychau6349]

@@wildmandann lmao they're gonna hand you a pink piece of paper you mean

[@wildmandann]

Andy Chau 😂😂😂 but check this !! white ppl silly if that were dogs are cats they would've Awwwwwwwwww like it's sad!!! But instead they laugh because they know of the inequality to Blacks in America 🤔🤔🤔 crazy right !! But the paycheck is paper and wouldn't hurt the boss if you hold a certain kind of relationship 🤔🤔🤔🤔 so no no pink slip 😂

[@natas12rm]

I did once. True story. I was a temp just starting in shipping. They loved me and claimed nobody has ever caught on as fast as me. When you get hired in after 90 days you're supposed to get a 2 dollar raise. They tried not giving me the raise. 3 weeks of the raise not on my check i threw it at my supervisor. Next weeek i got my raise

[@FirechickenExpress]

Humans are free to put forth some effort and find another fucking job. But the purpose of this experiment wasnt to explain the lazy people that want to get paid more to do a job my 5 year old could do....

[@mchapman132]

I worked in a company back in the early ‘80’s and most of us had college degrees, some had Masters. We got a new boss one day, he was all of 20, barely got out of high school, functionally illiterate, he was the nephew of the big boss. We took it on the chin and just did our jobs. Then….when he screwed up and blamed us…..we all quit. He was eventually fired along with his uncle. The company did fold.

[@ChrisM-qo1jc]

This is just nepotism, not exactly related to the video. Your "boss" was related to the big boss. The experiment shown was what happens when 2 have the exact same qualifications and does exactly the same things but get rewarded differently.

[@jimmyjones5880]

Nice fanfiction writing bro

[@BlackMamba-lt8oe]

if this was done in india nobody wud complain bcoz they like b@ll licking

[@Kiba114]

who asked?

[@signoguns8501]

And then everyone clapped

[@coolersmoke]

This is probably the most deserving KZbin clip of all time.

[@hexagonsun]

2:21 did she really just land it back in the cucumber container 10/10

[@user-fo6hb2iy4b]

+hexagon sun KOBE!

[@RipScaper]

Nah, the container would have moved.

[@pandiem]

It actually hits her clothing if you watch closely, her sleeve shuffles slightly when it get hit.

[@edwardheaney3641]

+hexagon sun when kobe is tested

[@locked1887]

*Everybody gangsta until the other monkey gets a grape...*

[@violet-trash]

Give me cucumber, I dial the crew's number. 🗡️

[@kemchobhenchod]

This is exactly how I feel when I get my paycheck

[@Hardcore_Ant]

Except you get half a cucumber and the boss gets all the grapes haha

[@Hardcore_Ant]

@John Smith "Just buy more money, peasant"

[@dulceamorbandiola7227]

Hahaha

[@damienholland8103]

@John Smith Perhaps your response doesn't address inflation vs. 40 years of wage stagnation.

[@LeaderLappen1]

Feel u

[@sherryarflin726]

My granddaughter sent me this when she was in college. I watch it every now and then when I need a good laugh……

[@jvalentine8376]

I know exactly how this feels . I left the job I loved and was very good at because a lying thieving piece of garbage got paid more than me and did far less work . His wife and the owners wife were good friends . Long story short . I left , he eventually ripped the company off for a huge amount of money and the company eventually went out of business .

[@EveryTimeV2]

In reality, you try getting back and the world seems to fight back. Like there is some cosmic force or something that's keeping you fucked.

[@FalconMidget]

I don’t think you do. You at least got to go home at the end of the day and unfortunately for this monkey he wasn’t as lucky.

[@fuckamericanidiot]

That's not an argument for equal pay. If you were getting paid twice as much as him for doing twice the work, you would't complain. Equal pay would mean he gets the same money as you for doing less work. Which do you prefer?

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Whoops good thing you left early then

[@TheSands83]

@@EveryTimeV2 it’s because you are a fucking baby n a loser

[@MrPakurfulo]

I like how the second time he is like "I can't believe this . it has to be a mistake.. did she drop it here?" And the next time it takes the third piece cucumber and looks at it like "u serious? ... Come back here yeah I want my bloody grape u hear me!?"

[@DOGOID]

" I'm mad as hell , and I'm not going to take this anymore"

[@stratomonster213]

hilarious until you realize you’re work life is no different

[@Alister222222]

Reminds me of how upset I was when I discovered how low my pay was at my work. I was a strange case - I have two education degrees and one in computer science, but was working near-minimum wage as a teacher aide in what we call learning support (technically a 'teacher aide', although I worked more like a teacher half the time), a job I stayed in because I felt like I was making a huge difference to high needs kids. When the union negotiated a pay rise for the teacher aides in the country, I discovered that for 7 years I had been at the literal bottom of the pay scale for teacher aides, and I nearly cried. I was overqualified to be a teacher, let alone a teacher aide, and I was getting paid essentially minimum wage. I had never even checked a 'pay scale' before because I was definitely NOT doing it for the money, but to find out that that was how my employers were prepared to treat me was just so galling. I would hear every week how I was getting through to kids in ways nobody else had, and often nobody else was able to manage the behavior of our behavior needs kids, but I guess because it was clear that nobody would do what I did for the money (there just wasn't any in it), I must be prepared to do it for the lowest possible amount they could pay me. When my father was diagnosed with MND, I just couldn't put up with their BS anymore and finally walked. Two years later I still feel cheated and angry, and have to keep reminding myself how that seven years was worth it for the kids.

[@mr3817]

You voluntarily were paid what you wanted. Don't be Angry at the Law of Attraction, learn what you want from what you don't want. Your future is bright, it was beautiful time with those children and now you have learned to also pursue prosperity and abundance (through highest possible wage) in your next steps in life!

[@DannySullivanMusic]

agreed. entirely correct man

[@ogierthedane6025]

Degrees are not a testament to work effort or quality, its just paper, the rest you need to prove through.... guess what... DOING the work.

[@ogierthedane6025]

@@idealmasters sure he did, at least according to himself, my guess is that his perception is wrong or he is simply lying ;)

[@ronaldmunoz2411]

Employers will always tell you not to do it for.the money, and how you're connecting, or morally upstanding or what the fuck ever, but ironically they are doing it for the money. Give you reasons besides money, so that they save money on you. Second, that is of no fault of theirs, you cheated yourself, by not equipping yourself with the knowledge, and not bringing it up. Sorry, but they play everybody, that's the nature of it, is it right... no, but you have to protect and stand up for yourself.

[@itsyourmajestycat6164]

2:05 "I DEMAND TO SPEAK WITH THE MANAGER! THIS TREATMENT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!"

[@beverlymccollum8861]

I can't get over how fast those monkeys think. Can't help but laugh at the outrage of the one on the left. He was thoroughly disgusted and angry. Would be interesting if they changed it around and began to give the one on the left a grape and the other one a cucumber. Very interesting result I would bet.

[@ChrisM-qo1jc]

then it wouldnt be about inequality anymore. they would think it's just random or that they need to work for it or do something

[@DonDon45-i5h]

Even monkeys know that corporate bidenism is unfair

[@ritaseymour8116]

Yes I like that idea a lot .Good thinking

[@1newearth]

Ho Beverly. I hope all is well. I say these things with love and charity: Do not be deceived. Where did Christ say we should celebrate his birthday? Are you willing to be tormented in the presence of the Lamb for keeping Christmas? Jesus is never our rest but he can give us rest. He was NOT born on December 25th so stop lying to others. Christ our passover has been sacrificed for us. 1 Corinthians 5:7. It is a sin to steal and it is a sin to forget the sabbath. It is a sin to disobey the 8th commandment and it is a sin to disobey the 4th commandment. Christ and the apostles never told us to keep sunday holy nor have a convocation on every first day of the week. By observing sunday and Christmas, the Lord will not show you nor any unrepentant sinner mercy on judgment day. I used to keep sunday, Christmas and Easter but I repented and so can you. Jesus is not the reason for the season. Satan is the reason for December 25th. Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. When the true Christ Jesus our Lord shall return, we shall reign as kings and priests if we are faithful saints. Have a blessed day and I hope to see you in the kingdom. Have a good life lived for the true Christ and please let others know the truth of the 1611 king James Bible. Please watch this 2 minutes video if you can: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnu7qquJhc2DqqM

[@averagebilly]

@@1newearth how is this relevant to the situation? If you want to actually convert people, this isn't the way to do it.

[@mattcero1]

This experiment represents only half of the concept. The complimentary experiment should be asking the first monkey to deliver 2 rocks for a red grape and then giving a red grape to the second monkey for delivering just one rock. I wonder how soon or even if the first monkey would realize they're getting paid only half of what the second monkey is getting paid. Good stuff indeed.

[@pancakes590]

The way he reacts though to being treated unfairly is so human though. You can tell he’s just like ‘wtf, what gives’

[@ss31]

Is the monkey behaving like a human or is a human behaving like a monkey?

[@pancakes590]

@@ss31 lollll true

[@donHooligan]

we're primates. just another critter on the planet....destroying the planet. monkeys trying to live like fat rats.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

agreed dude. 100% true!!

[@Po1lux]

​@@donHooligan just another critter is a very depressing way to describe yourself. Maybe more say, we are the smartest being on this planet by a long run with the most complex brains ever seen. We have single handedly made our way into places far beyond any other species reach on the planet, making our way all the way to the moon. We are beginning to make machines akin to ourselves with the ability to think its way through a problem that is our own creation. No other species we on this entire planet has come anywhere near to comparing to us. We have made fantasrical technologies, and as we advance they only become more effiecient, yet at the same time more environmentaly friendly for the planet, we have made our lives in states where we dont need to be hunted, as we are intelligent enough to build ourselves our own safety and keep those creatures away from us. Despite us mostly suffering due to the hands of ourselves, we have still developed a good enough society for the average person to be happy with and not worry about whether or not we will die tomorrow or if someone close to us will. We are a very capable species that has done amazing things in our histoy.

[@Zulwind]

I love how at the end the monkey threw the cucumber back into the bowl perfectly.

[@subaruyagami2327]

He wanted to do a surgery on the grape, but unfortunately he didn't get one.

[@Supergecko8]

lol

[@redactedrider7606]

Just let that old meme die... That happened almost 9 years ago

[@Nikola95inYT]

@@redactedrider7606 yeah, people should stop using this meme, it's like humping a corpse or something worse

[@bendthatdickcuminbitch7853]

Le troled hard XD

[@NutsS9]

@@redactedrider7606 but it became a meme year ago

[@OwGosHh]

Rest in peace mr. De Waal

[@imhomewiththemilk]

I was eating cucumber when he said that , i am literally holding it right now , and i feel offended :(

[@constantinvaldor3742]

If i was you I would of took away that grapes are much better 😂

[@2good4soccer]

Menna Gamal M.g. Stop fucking capping lmao

[@constantinvaldor3742]

@mrgeorge118 that could be a child watch your mouth

[@rubymargarita7542]

🤔

[@creambun8622]

@mrgeorge118 Does your asshole ever get jealous of the shit that comes out of your mouth?

[@randeepkang8780]

So nobody's going to talk about how the monkey made the cucumber in the bowl at 2:20?

[@rexerator]

Omg lol i didnt notice! Good eye.

[@i-love-comountains3850]

Shit i missed that, good eye!

[@vincentlaw1415]

Michael Jordan

[@Reiken2007]

Koobbeeyyy!!!

[@bradleybrown8399]

No, nobody is going to talk about it

[@danielaprieto4225]

This is exactly why I left my job as a paralegal at a company. I began to talk to my fellow paralegals about their salary and was so horrified to find out I was generating the company just as much money as them if not more in certain cases and yet I was paid the least. I left without a two weeks notice. Just gave them a little over one week to replace me.

[@lastonestanding1641]

You should've just ask for a raise instead ;). People like you just don't know how it works.

[@tdpro3607]

@@lastonestanding1641 sometimes you dont even have to waste time asking. and by the way you dont know the commenters job, how could you be so sure one's action is naive

[@verbalkint4258]

@@lastonestanding1641 you don't know if the person asked for a raise and was denied it. Don't make assumptions.

[@enkhit9533]

@@lastonestanding1641 don't be so sure to urself

[@yoya4766]

@@lastonestanding1641 It's the unfairness and ethics, which are cultural traits that won't change even if he got a pay rise. You'd always be uncomfortable working for an untrustworthy company.

[@tandersb]

Love how the producer chose to call out the guy sleeping at @1:11.

[@FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit]

I love how she's was looking for a way out to just take what was rightfully hers

[@haylobos8261]

Go do endless school and endless hours. And endless stress if you want to make as much as a doctor liberal more on. Doctors are handing out a lot more rocks, that is why they make more. You liberalidiots have zero classification skills. I have more dirt than you have diamonds. I win. Yeah, no, loonyliberals.

[@LizzieBeezie]

Moral of the story, discuss your salary with co-workers to know if there's a discrepancy, never listen to your boss telling you never to do that.

[@BoomerTactical]

This has absolutely nothing to do with pay and everything to do with taste. Who wouldn't rather bite into an apple than bite into a head of cabbage.

[@HeatyFrog]

​@@BoomerTactical This has literally everything to do with pay. It's an experiment to see if capuchin monkeys have a concept of equity and fairness - turns out they do, as does any social animal that is tested on this

[@ScottMoeGator]

It makes more sense to me when you interpret the monkey's reaction as frustration with dependency on handouts and being physically prevented from acting on his own to improve his condition.

[@alexpower1134]

Me at the start thinking "why does she have to wear that face guard?" I understand now

[@JohnSmith-bv3bn]

I think that the results of this particular study are actually misunderstood. I would argue the monkeys recognize inequity, but not fairness. The monkey on the left surely recognizes that his cellmate is getting better food, but i wouldn't call that a conceptual grasp of fairness. Grapes are roughly five times as energy dense as a similarly sized piece of cucumber, meaning that the grape - as the scientist explains - is a higher valued currency than the cucumber. Imagine instead there are two rocks, one five times heavier than the other. The monkey on the right must lift and return the heavy rock to the human, and is rewarded with a grape. The monkey on the left lifts and returns the lighter rock, and is rewarded with a cucumber. I would wager that the left monkey would still be upset about not receiving the grape, even though the rightward monkey was compensated fairly for five times the work. These monkeys are upset about inequality of outcomes (jealousy), and would give no fucks about fairness (pay based on value provided). EDIT: One year - and a ton more responses than I thought this would attract - later, I'd revise the experiment slightly, taking a couple comments into consideration: Monkey A and Monkey B are given two rocks each; a small one and a large one, which fit through a corresponding small or large hole in the cage. Through trial and error, the Monkeys discover that passing the large rock gets them a grape, and passing the small rock gets them a cucumber. Now the Monkeys are given their rocks, but the large hole on Monkey A's cage is closed. Monkey A can only pass the small rock through and is given a cucumber, while Monkey B passes the large rock through and is given a grape. Both monkeys were rewarded FAIRLY. My (unchanged) hypothesis is that Monkey A will still be upset about the cucumber after seeing his pal get a grape, even though he knows it "costs" a large rock to get one. Ipso facto: There is a difference between fairness and equality, which the monkeys (and apparently some humans) do not understand.

[@JohnSmith-bv3bn]

Cheshire CAT Scan That's exactly my point. From the monkey's perspective, they only understand that they are both performing a task, and should be rewarded equally, regardless of how valuable their respective task actually is compared with the other's. This means that the monkeys understand that they aren't being rewarded with the same thing (i.e. their outcomes are not the same), but they don't understand that they were rewarded based on value provided (i.e. fairness). Hence my conclusion: These monkeys are upset about inequality of outcomes (jealousy), and would give no fucks about fairness (pay based on value provided).

[@atheistcaveman2392]

Cheshire CAT Scan

[@robertplews5736]

John Smith great point

[@illopos]

"fairness (pay based on value provided)" - and how do you determine the value of something except in comparison to something else?

[@TheShark447]

So ur saying they are exactly like humans?

[@hagridsdisappointingson769]

It's the way she shakes the cage in anger that really gets me.

[@chriswoods662]

planet of the apes'

[@boltzmannbrain6607]

It turned me on

[@enesjei]

The lesson is, if you're aware that you're underpaid, try to negotiate. If it's fail, leave the company. There's no specific criteria for your boss to like you. Even if you're doing a good job, it means nothing if you don't have good relationship with your boss. Your company won't care about your feelings. You are always expendable. Favoritism is a real thing.

[@Hooga89]

So what you're saying is that it's the monkey's responsibility to fix the problem? =) Sounds like you didn't watch the video!

[@MrEvans1]

@@Hooga89 what he is saying is nothing will change and we still have the possibility of making a choice, so don't be a monkey and leave ;)

[@huntergomersall7530]

Except if quitting means you don’t get the cucumber or the grape, you’ll still accept the cucumber even if it’s not a fair outcome because it’s the outcome you need to survive.

[@MrEvans1]

@@huntergomersall7530 how about being smart and looking for a job before quitting? a smart person keeps at least a window open if not a few doors, its never truly late to prepare.

[@enesjei]

@@Hooga89 it's up you if you wanna be the monkey or not tbh. Life's not revolve around you unfortunately.

[@adamson760]

Really hope people will take this in consideration, with the way the world is headed now..

[@HighlanderFrag4Life]

you all are laughing but thats how "planet of the apes" is made

[@d33763]

Samael Terringam “Together We Strong!!” 😀

[@1Animeculture]

Its also a sci-fi movie with less accuracy than a blind drunk man.

[@miamivlad]

😂 True

[@Thalor]

Fabiafidus you got the first part right

[@pastoryoda2789]

Fabiafidus blind drunk men are very accurate.

[@FarrFromPerfect]

In the monkey's defense, this is exactly how I reacted at work, when I found out I was paid less than someone who did less work than me. Didn't get me a pay rise but did make it crystal clear to my employer how I felt.

[@arrsea7947]

and employer made it crystal clear they didnt care

[@FarrFromPerfect]

@@arrsea7947 you got it.

[@Victor-tl4dk]

And it probably felt horrible for you. This is probably how the monkey feels. He just can't tell his employer to stick it.

[@venturatheace1]

God I felt that

[@FarrFromPerfect]

@@Victor-tl4dk im pretty sure he did

[@nomenestomen8952]

I think this is a hint that "Justice" and "Injustice" are not arbitrary or depending on our point of view. I think we all know and feel exactly when injustice occurs and when its not...

[@r2d2musk6]

Wrong. Different values or even social norms can dictate justice or injustice. For example, a monkey fights a cop and gets shot and other monkeys cry injustice, while others see it as a result of being a monkey. Ha

[@Ooopsi]

Not exactly. I have not watched the entire ted-talk and so I am not addressing the video but this comment. Everybody has an ever so slightly different view of justice (that is, within one society) and overall you would notice that the concept of justice varies greatly over the entire population. What would seem as common sense justice to one might seem as totally radical for the other, meanwhiles both would attempt at cementing their own values by relying on concepts that more or less lead to arguing in circles. In the given monkeys example though, what I assume would be common within a justice concept is that the same result is expected for the same action. Now this is hardly about justice and more about common sense really - we do not call it justice that hydrogen always burns with O2 to produce H2O. If you are relating the term justice to this sort of common sense, then yes, to some degree parts of the concept are understood to be in a certain form for everyone (that does not exempt the concept from exceptions though, and the generalized aspects of justice are almost never a point of disagreement to begin with). However, it can not be inferred from this that justice as a whole or in large is one chunk of rights and wrongs pulled off of "what we feel is correct". There's a lot more at play than this.

[@Blundabus1337]

Good thing the wealthy elite got the protestors to start complaining about white people instead of the wealthy elite, otherwise they might have not made *several trillion dollars* from the pandemic.

[@carterblunt4192]

The other monkey didn't seem to share his feeling.

[@-.TS.-]

I love how the crowd is laughing uncontrollably not knowing we are the monkeys. Dedicating our lives for what are equivalent to cucumbers so a small group of humans can enjoy their grapes.

[@chasbodaniels1744]

@T S Even worse are the deplorables who’ve been trained to vote for the GQP operatives who’re owned by Big Biz and the One %,

[@lostinlimbo7]

Yea bro they totally don’t know. Not like they’re watching a presentation on psychology or anything.

[@12jojimbo]

They laugh, not out of mockery, but because they understand and relate to the monkey’s feelings.

[@bobsmith4334]

Speak for yourself my man.

[@WestHaddnin]

Facts

[@channeloutdoorscod9020]

Funny, how the monkey is slamming its hand and demanding for a grape. Beautiful, smart creatures. ❤️

[@thedredgod]

literally shakes the cage in anger

[@pastrie42]

You enjoy watching beautiful, smart creatures get angry? Are you really that solipsistic?

[@muslimcel4581]

@@thedredgod that monke demands reparations!