Costs to Own and Drive a Fiat 130 Coupé / All Repairs in last 3 Years

Repairs, service, maintenance, tax, insurance, gas consumption... all costs in detail to own and drive a Fiat 130 Coupé Pininfarina.
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[@stevestone4346]

A mastercless in elegance, they don't make em like this anymore! Worth every penny.

[@lexvanderlaan963]

an absolute fine car in all it's glory! I owned 49 coupe's so far and more that 60 saloons so I know what I'm talking about. Also I restore these cars and did so many I really can't remember how many. Anyway, I would hang on to this one because you will regret selling! Just let me do your headlights to finish the spectacular looks of your coupe

[@CubeofCars]

Probably I would regret it, as it took me two years to find one which was exactly the spec that I wanted to have... and yes, the headlights are still on my list of things to do :)

[@brianstigant1285]

Love car you have, I own 3, 130 coupes, mine need repairs on 2 of them,

[@kim007250]

Sir, You have a fine looking machine there, You have had the pleasure of owning such an Elegant car and maintained it well, Ready now for the next custodian.

[@frazzleface753]

One of my dream cars.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

I have the same car, most expensive repairs are brake calipers (very complex system that came from Renault Bendix of this time) and wheel bearings /cant be separated from the discs you need to change discs with bearings inside... best thing you can fix these electronics free quite "simple" analogue cars by yourself, the mechanical parts are not that cheap but they can be obtained through German or italian classic parts dealers quite easily.... (as long as no chrome or metal body parts have to be purchased for astronomic prices and rust is prevented, its not more expensive compared to other biggers cars of that era... any Jaguar or Citroen SM etc is much more expensive to repair, Mercedes W108 280SE and BMW 3,0 Si E3 isn´t cheap too if anything breaks down)

[@CubeofCars]

Compared to cars like the SM or CS, the 130 Coupé suffers from too cheap market value, so bigger repair or restorations are not economical unfortunately. For such are rare and special car, market values around 20000 € are not really logical. Even with the argument that it's just a Fiat.

[@jackburtonstwin]

Exceptional car. Worth every penny spent on maintaining such an elegant and rare car.

[@Liamautomechanic]

I worked in a Fiat dealership service technician in 1983 the 130 was a lovely car well built apart for the bodywork

[@vidviewer100]

All your videos about this car and looking for one in Italy have been so helpful to me as I am/maybe about to buy one......danke!

[@CubeofCars]

Great! Good luck finding a nice one! :)

[@vidviewer100]

@@CubeofCars Thanks... How did you manage to buy one in Italy ? Non residents are not allowed to buy a car in Italy unless they ship them out

[@CubeofCars]

My car had Italian papers with export stamp and was in Austria already. Important is that the papers are stamped for export and then it's best to use a trailer.

[@CubeofCars]

I have too many cars and too little time, so I decided to reduce my collection. I still think that the Fiat 130 Coupé is a great classic car to buy which is incredibly undervalued for its high class engineering and its low production numbers. The manual version is really super rare. I have never found the exact numbers, but probably only about 20% were manual. I would always choose the manual. It's much more fun and it is less of a repair risk compared to the automatic (not the other way). The automatics often have problems and are difficult to repair. The manual gearbox is not known for any special problems, and it's great to use as soon as it's warm. On the first kilometer when cold, second gear needs a gentle hand.

[@Liamautomechanic]

Good vid the original wheels were a hardened alloy aircraft spec. Type alloy. Looks like 132 steel whells in video.

[@alanwalker4493]

Your car is beautiful 👍

[@CubeofCars]

Thanks :)

[@killerrockguitar1845]

50 year old car that looks still very breautiful!!!

[@molluscturtle]

You legal fixed “on the road” costs are pretty expensive compared with the UK. There is no yearly tax cost at all on this age of vehicle, they are exempt from MOTs (TUV test, every year in UK) and the insurance in Germany looks much more expensive - an agreed value policy on a low use classic would probably be €150 or less. They are exempt from congestion charging in London. Not that this matters - that 130 is beautiful, I love it. Stunning car, amazing colour.

[@CubeofCars]

I think the UK is maybe the best country for classic car owners... But there are also a lot of countries which are much worse than Germany in terms of taxation and restrictions for classic cars... so I don't want to complain too much :)

[@alastairwatson3201]

Gluten tag. We also have historic registration here in Australia, which makes owning a classic car much more affordable. Insurance companies offer discounted rates for older vehicles, too. Sometimes, parts availability is a problem, especially for European cars - I have have an X1/9 and a 128 3P - but this doesn’t add to ownership costs too much, unless there’s a major problem. There are two 130 coupes regularly being repaired at my local specialist Italian garage. I suspect that my bills are more manageable than the owners’ are. Auf weidersein.

[@CubeofCars]

Great that some old Fiats also made their way to Australia... and still survive! Have fun with your classic cars! :)

[@Geronimo1246]

It's a lovely vehicle. It seems that owning a classic car in Europe is much more expensive than in North America.

[@CubeofCars]

Really? In terms of tax and insurance? Or repairs?

[@Geronimo1246]

@@CubeofCars taxes. Circulation taxes are lower or non existent depending on where you live. Fuel costs are lower. Now insurance, and repairs I couldn't tell you but taxes seem to be a large difference.

[@DueGreg]

€400 is like nothing

[@rorymcloughlin2023]

To be honest I don't think the costs are too high, I can't imagine what it would cost to run it here in Ireland. To wake up each morning and see this beautiful car is worth it I would say

[@CubeofCars]

I would totally agree :)

[@johnrandall125]

You are still in the EU. You will not be driving any petrol cars after 2030 on public roads.

[@oschiri66]

Sehr interessant und ehrlich, vielen Dank.Ich fahre vier Ford Escorts, Baujahre 1986-92. Die kleinen XR3i sind unschlagbar günstig im Unterhalt - ein Bruchteil Deiner Kosten. Der Cosworth kostet hingegen mehr als CHF 2000 im Jahr an Reparaturen und Service. Vergleicht man aber die Kosten mit einem Neuwagen, sieht auch diese Rechnung gar nicht schlecht aus: Statt einem riesigen Wertverlust hat man nämlich einen kleinen, aber stetigen Wertzuwachs. Das Auto bezahlt sich somit selbst. Allerdings nur theoretisch, denn ich möchte ja nicht verkaufen.

[@CubeofCars]

Verglichen mit Neuwagen und deren sicherem Wertverlust ist man mit klassischen Autos eigentlich immer finanziell besser dran, naja zumindest meistens ;)

[@nicholaschambers9704]

Dear Mike, Owning 2 130 coupes and having had 2 124ac's I feel a real responsibility to let you know that Cooling systems and a few rubber busches are not considered Major repairs. The 130 is a most beautiful and sexy

[@nicholaschambers9704]

Sorry, fat finger ! Masterpiece from the '70s and as such should be nurtured and loved ! In rural Australia it is pretty easy to do 100km/year, when you combine that with a modern VW/Audi /BMM el al The repair costs after 1 or 2 years are Unbefuckinglievable ! Enjoy the old girl and don't be too critical ! Cheers from Australia.

[@jareknowak8712]

@@nicholaschambers9704 "100km/year"❓

[@nicholaschambers9704]

@@jareknowak8712 sorry 100k km/year .

[@CubeofCars]

@Nicholas Chambers Yes, you are right. Costs are still quite reasonable for such a rare and special car ;)

[@flat6fever680]

Yeah he would die with a Porsche to keep on the road : )

[@Scealmora]

Classic car tax in Ireland is €56/year once car is over 30 years old and has to be paid annually. A car test is €55, every 2 years from 4 years old. From year 10 it's every year until 30. Then it's every 2 years, until 40. Once over 40 it is test exempt.

[@CubeofCars]

That's really cheap and convenient. I understand the logic behind these changing time intervals, but German authorities probably wouldn't get it...

[@giuliettafuoriserie5404]

My favourite Fiat 130 Coupé configuraton: Blu Metallizzato 0481 with the Rosso 100 velluto interieur and a manual transmission! Most probably sold by now?

[@CubeofCars]

Yeah, that's the best combination! Unfortunately my Fiat is sold already...

[@Umbulation]

ohh and did you regret to sold it ? i am hesitating to sell my 130 Berlina also ../..

[@eshmunvideochannel2019]

Your videos are very well produced and interesting. I'm not sure about the Fiat 130 being the "best" and most luxurious Fiat ever built. The 8Vs built in the early 1950s, although sporting/racing models, were very luxurious and achieved accelerations and top speeds in line, if not better than the 130, from a 2L engine. Depending on the coach builder these cars now sell from anywhere between $0.775 million to $2 million USD.

[@CubeofCars]

The 8V was a class of its own and - being a caochbuilt car - probably can't be compared with the 130 Coupé. But I would totally agree that the 8V would win the competition against the 130 Coupé in terms of luxury and exclusivity.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@CubeofCars The Fiat 130 almost would have been the Fiat 140 with a V8 4,2 litre engine but was dropped due to the oil crisis and the hate for big engines at the Fiat development dept of this time you can today find the engine built under licence in Russia as Gaz 13 Tschaika engine (all alloy V8 OHV 5,4 litre).

[@CubeofCars]

@@Schlipperschlopper Would have been interesting to see such a V8 Fiat.... sales probably wouldn't have been better....

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@CubeofCars Well with 200 or 230 HP from a 4.5 Litre V8 the 130 would have been as fast as the fastest BMW Coupe 3,0 CSi...Mostly the press bashed the 130 to be just too slow compared to a Mercedes 280SE (easily the all aloy V8 would have been converted to 5 and more litre as some years later in Russia) The US Export would have benefited strongly with a Big OHV V8 close to a Hemi Mopar in the 130.

[@michaelgross1844]

einen wunderschönes Coupé hat Pininfaria da kreiert. Toller Motor (damals). Würdest du das Automatikgetriebe auch empfehlen?

[@CubeofCars]

Ich persönlich wollte unbedingt einen Schalter, weil mir das Schalten auf kurvigen Landstrassen oder in den Bergen einfach viel Spass macht und das Getriebe zuverlässig ist und gut zum Motor passt. Der Schalter ist halt viel seltener (etwa 80% haben Automatik) und damit schwieriger zu finden. Ich hatte bei der Suche nach meinem Fiat auch mehrere Automatik probegefahren und ich war vom Schaltverhalten nicht überzeugt. Ob das jetzt daran lag, dass die Probe gefahrenen Autos schlecht im Zustand waren oder das generell so ist, kann ich nicht sagen. Ich kann nur empfehlen, einfach mal beides zu testen und dann zu entscheiden, was besser gefällt. An das Schaltschema des 5-Gang-Getriebes mit 1. Gang links hinten muss man sich ja auch erst mal gewöhnen...

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@CubeofCars Wenn die Automatic gut gewartet ist ist diese ganz wunderbar...sie ist baugleich zu den Jaguar und vielen US Cars dieser Zeit.

[@pereldh5741]

That is cheap! Imagine what any other classic would cost... And to talk about the family - imagine what a Ferrari 400 would cost... :)

[@CubeofCars]

Yeah,... especially the 400 is a nightmare in terms of repair and maintenance costs ;)

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@CubeofCars you can repair the 400 by yourself, its not nearly as complex as a Jaguar XJS V12...

[@CubeofCars]

@@Schlipperschlopper But spare part costs of the 400 are horrible. A friend of mine had one and I remember some of his bills...

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@CubeofCars Thats true as long you buy Ferrari spares, most parts can be purchased from the OEM supliers carb parts, Bosch Injection, Valves and valve springs (Similar Fiat by TRW) etc... Of course body parts are astronomic

[@robertmenghini.Lambomad]

Road tax is £0.00 in the UK as it’s a classic. Insurance is about £90.00

[@CubeofCars]

Wow, that's cheap!

[@vanwijkzelf]

Some parts are not as expensive as you think: engine mount: fiat130.nl/motorsteun-fiat-130/ wheel bearing: fiat130.nl/wiellagers-wheel-bearings-cuscinetti-delle-ruote/ I think the costs are not that heigh, Fiats 130 standing still costs money

[@CubeofCars]

Thanks for the link. I didn't know that Citroen/Peugeot wheel bearings would also fit. I paid much more for the original Fiat parts...

[@protestagain]

I would love to buy your Fiat 130. Think your car is very nice, and you have already done the major repairs. But unfortunately, I have to wait sometimes, for a bigger wallet and a parking spot. The consumption is nearly between a MB 280SE and 420SEL I have own, and is normal for such a car. The other cost is also as waited.

[@CubeofCars]

Yeah, I think costs are acceptable so far. And hopefully the Fiat will find a new owner who preserves it in this condition :)

[@protestagain]

@@CubeofCars Remember, I was a little lad, following my father who wanted to find a new car to buy. At the Fiat dealer, I mention the 130 sedan. but the dealer hadn't heard about those cars. We went home with a VW K70. The 130 Coupe came a little bit later, but one of the best designs there is, and one of mine dream cars. Yes, if one knows a car better and more of the history, and what's done to it, I would be better prepared to pay a better price for it.

[@johndrake2729]

Where's the horn button located?

[@CubeofCars]

It's the centre of the steering wheel.

[@marcusharrison3503]

Hello, how can I contact you privately please? That is if the 130 is still available for sale. Thanks.

[@CubeofCars]

Hi Marcus, I still have my 130 and it's currently still in winter storage. Sales activities will start in May probably. Just contact me if you are interested: [e-mail]

[@RelojsuizoHdR]

Did you sell this car at the end?

[@CubeofCars]

Yes, it's sold :)

[@jdrancho1864]

Full coverage insurance for 218 a year is outrageously low. I pay about one hundred more for just the legally mandated liability coverage. Mandated inspection is a emissions (smog) check at about half the MOT or TUV every two years.

[@CubeofCars]

Wow, that's a lot!!!

[@jdrancho1864]

@@CubeofCars insurance is a racket!

[@alanhiggins5299]

Hello did you sell the car ?

[@CubeofCars]

Not yet, but will officially advertise it in May or so...

[@alanhiggins5299]

@@CubeofCars thank you could you kindly email me on [e-mail] when you do in case I miss it...

[@jamiesmith6838]

There's an old saying about Fiat, "Fix It Again Tony". Why pour money into a Fiat? They were never known to be special, unique, attractive, reliable, fast or enjoyable to drive, fix/maintain? I get it. All those things make it nostalgic. I could possibly see a Lancia! But a Fiat honestly, has me scratching my head here? During the late '70's, I almost purchased one to drive back and forth to college. Simply, because they were inexpensive to buy! I quickly found out they are notoriously prone to breaking down too! Interesting video though! As the saying goes, "one man's junk is another man's treasure"! Not trying to offend. If it brings you joy? Relish in happiness! Everything doesn't always need explaining. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@pereldh5741]

Well either you’re a petrolhead or you’re a badge snob

[@jamiesmith6838]

@@pereldh5741 No. More of a reliability realist. On a hold, I actually luv Italian designs! If it's italian, it has world class style appeal and desire. However, Gasoline internal combustion engines are relics of antiquity. Some just do it better than others. Currently, Honda holds the title on reliablity.

[@pereldh5741]

Jamie Smith You do sound like someone who hasn’t been a Fiat owner for very long periods of time. Anyway, reliability is good (hence why I hold old Fiats in higher regard than say, Bmw or Audi’s) but if reliability in itself is your main concern when choosing a classic, I still suggest you cannot be called a Petrolhead... :)

[@jamiesmith6838]

@@pereldh5741 Fair enough. Im sure every auto manufacturer has a vision. Maybe i was too coarse in my opinion on Fiat? They've been around longer than I've been alive! What I should be saying is I'm glad they're still here! There's a reason for everything. Just the same, we can't be everywhere at the same time. It's possible, I've might've missed something? When we are passionate about something, we try to make it work. Nothing is wrong with that. Nothing is wrong with owning a Fiat either. It's automotive history. I do get that. Having different perspectives is a wonderful thing also. So, am I a petrolhead and not a critic? We can be both. Auto Mags make a living on the idea! Great eye opening exchange. Your Fiat is a labor of love. Thx for sharing. Enjoy!

[@planestrainsdogsncars4336]

I would somewhat agree , however every marque has its crowning achievement...and with Fiat it was the 130 coupe ..a rolling piece of architecture and design...a Very important car.

[@alfamonk]

Not a lot for a 50 yr old car, I mean this is an emotional purchase, I'm not sure why you'd consider replacing bushes etc. An unexpected cost.

[@CubeofCars]

According to the seller everything was done already. But the costs were not too much indeed.

[@DrWillis1990]

To be fair, in 3 years, for a 50 yo fiat is not actually that much... For a 50yo any car that's decent. Triple it for Australia rates and prices 😭

[@CubeofCars]

Yeah, I think it's ok. But I wouldn't want to triple that amount.... Why is Australia so expensive?

[@DrWillis1990]

@@CubeofCars Taxes and high disposable income (so the race to have something unique) for one. Also we never got so many classic euro cars being so far away, so the ones we do have generally get imported privately, which is a minimum 8000 AUD just to put on a container and get here, not including having to get the car inspected for asbestos, brought to a level of local design rules based on the year, and further taxes. It's annoying :( On the flip side, we do have a lot of rare, non-rusted thanks to dry weather RHD cars. I still remember 6 years ago being able to get a RHD Alfa 1750 Bertone coupe for 4,000 euro (converted). I should have bought one :'( Also external factors like we havnt had a recession in 30 years, our minimum wage is the highest in the world and property prices has made a large majority of homeowners millionaires if you bought 5 years ago or prior.

[@TB-rq1hz]

@@CubeofCarsYour video brought back many memories. I only had the 130 Sedan but swear to this day it was the best & nicest car i ever owned. I had difficulty getting parts because there were not many 130's around. Australia is well known to be expensive with foreign cars(IMO) The Australian weather & living near the ocean did not do my car any favours.That engine is something else...Good luck selling the car. If I was living in Europe I would buy it!

[@rajanrairealty8979]

its worth bc its restored

[@j-mharari3374]

hello, please where is your email adress ? I'd like to write you about the FIAT 130 - not to buy it, because it mus already have been sold long time ago ! But to discuss some points. thanks

[@CubeofCars]

It's in the channel info. cubeofcars [at] hotmail.com