Could a Lightsaber Cut Through Captain America's Shield? (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

SURPRISE BECAUSE SCIENCE CHANNEL! Subscribe now and click the shiny notifications bell so you don’t miss out on all things science and pop culture.
bit.ly/BecSciSub
It's the ultimate debate, could a Jedi's lightsaber really cut through Captain America's shield? Kyle breaks it down on this week's Because Science!
Enter the Geek & Sundry Inkshares contest! nerdi.st/1ohgFis
Subscribe for more Because Science: nerdi.st/subscribe
Watch the last episode: nerdi.st/1T6UeYh
More science: nerdist.com/topic/science-tech/
Watch more Because Science: nerdi.st/BecSci
Follow Kyle Hill: / sci_phile
Follow Us: / nerdistdotcom
Because Science every Thursday morning.
Learn more:
• TEMPERATURE OF TOKAMAK PLASMA: nerdi.st/1Vy7zNk
• ORIGIN OF SHIELD: nerdi.st/1S5Tfsv
• ALLOY MELTING POINTS: nerdi.st/1Vy7zNk
• ADAMANTIUM MELTING POINT: nerdi.st/23Tcb1y

[@harrisongutierrez4435]

it is cool to see Thor talk about captain America's shield

[@killthebassist.8259]

YOU STOLE MY COMMENT THIEF I DIDNT HAVE TIME TOO WRITE IT. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[@ziee2301]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

[@GeneticAlgorithm]

+Harrison Gutierrez Thor before the push ups.

[@ericyong3632]

LOL I LITERALLY JUST COMMENTED THIS LMAO.

[@PvPhacker]

Is he Thor ????

[@xXDoubleBounceXx]

So this is why Thor isn't in the Civil War... He quit his job to become a science explainer.

[@xXDoubleBounceXx]

Matthew_ Skywalker101 Cameraman. haha

[@LamNguyen-pb9mt]

The one that used the lightsaber to hit the shield

[@fruitzombie66]

sounds about right

[@vizthex]

Hahahahaha

[@martin8345]

Thomas Doneman

[@spidalack]

You forgot to take something into consideration that makes blocking the lightsaber different from dropping the shield into the sun. Heat dissipation. The shield doesn't just absorb the energy, it redirects it it back out. It's why you get a huge explosion when Thor hits it, but Capt is OK under it. That powerful ability to re-emit the energy out is why it's not supposed to be possible to melt the stuff. So the heat energy of the light saber would get radiated back out. The actual end result would depend on how much energy gets dumped how fast into the shield.

[@mashalkhan8261]

idk why no one has liked your comment wtf

[@jim47-XXV]

and both the attacker and defender spontaneously combust.

[@bluevenom2049]

It technically would be both, considering it's reactive function against energy and vibration

[@jcklsldr]

@Mr. Whiskers No, the blades can block other blades, so the heat redirected back at it wouldn't melt it

[@krisskrosssss]

@@jcklsldr No im pretty sure he's right. Let's say that Thor's hammer Mjolnir had similar effects as the lightsaber when hitting the shield. Both can reach temperatures of the Sun/Sun's core. Since your point is the lightsaber wouldn't be destroyed because it's blade is able to block other lightsabers, same thing can be said for Mjolnir. In the MCU, Mjolnir is made out of Uru, which is stronger that Vibranium, yet when Mjolnir was struck against the shield, the kinetic energy was still redirected. Therefore when a lightsaber strikes the shield at a force similar to the scene where Mjolnir struck against Cap's shield, the kinetic energy would still be redirected. And lightsabers aren't indestructible. Although the blade has never been showed to be broken, the base has. In Star Wars: Rebels, when Obi Wan Kenobi killed Darth Maul, he did so by slicing through the base/handle of the lightsaber, destroying while also fatally wounding Darth Maul. In theory, if the lightsaber were to hit Cap's shield, and the kinetic energy redirected is powerful enough to destroy or disable the base of the lightsaber, then the lightsaber would be destroyed before it could slice through Cap's shield. So basically the fight is decided upon whether the lightsaber can endure enough kinetic energy redirected towards it when striking the shield.

[@Profligateslayer]

Science Thor: Captain America’s shield is indestructible! Thanos’ fist: Hold my gauntl- Wait no give that back

[@johnjoestar2465]

Underrated Af

[@JZblue9]

Plot twist: Capt's shield was forged with a lightsaber.

[@potat2757]

+jzblue9 lol

[@Aphichat.]

+jzblue9 I dont see how is that going to work, how is better from its normal way for forgeing it. ohh my brain.

[@DemonEyeXGamer]

+Aphichat Sabai Both owned by Disney

[@thefalkonett]

+jzblue9 nah man. it's made out of Nokia 3310

[@olivinator]

+The Falkonett made of out Nokia 3310 that was forged with a lightsaber ^_^

[@HomTolland69]

There's an ingredient missing. Cap's Shield cannot be destroyed because FREEDOM

[@dynomite463]

Pure Concentrated amounts of FREEDOM.

[@TinchoX]

+HeyTherePeoplez 'Murica!!!

[@CodeAsm]

+HeyTherePeoplez The lightsword will make Freedom and unfree-dom equal... balanced out so to speak ;) hehe

[@matrim2583]

+Nico Vijlbrief (CodeAsm) lel

[@allendepacheco3419]

So we need Emperor Palpatine to destroy it.

[@GodLikeMeAgain]

thanks for the lesson science Thor

[@vizthex]

science lesson*

[@GodLikeMeAgain]

Vizthex thanks for the grammar lesson VelKoz

[@vizthex]

***** Wow...bitter much?

[@GodLikeMeAgain]

+Vizthex What?

[@vizthex]

***** Nevermind

[@gokanshurisbabyfather4003]

so how does the paint on cap shield not burn off

[@inadequis6132]

King Kunta maybe vibranium-based binder and pigments

[@TiagoTiagoT]

Maybe it's not paint, but some sort of anodization, or even microtexturing?

[@TriVThunder000]

King Kunta plot?

[@pamir2593]

the paint burns some times -_- its just a valuable paint but can flamable.

[@elijahadorno5061]

King Kunta industrial paint?

[@nish3603]

He looks like a budget Thor

[@djdolphingaming7289]

U soooooooooooo right

[@0Shanna]

Nah, he's Nerd Thor!

[@DEADLY_HUMAN]

lol u win the internet.

[@ummlol5986]

For next video can you do Does batman have throat cancer

[@hugobrugivo3123]

*do

[@voidvma]

+? ?? *has

[@gromusodus1949]

+Wojtuma *melon

[@vincii6060]

XD

[@voidvma]

Gromus Odus water*

[@ReallyTwistedHumor]

The real question is how much fun could you have if you were using both at the same time

[@kevinbell5674]

I really like this. I find it far more interesting and entertaining that a fight between the two would be a legitimate struggle instead of being boringly one-sided on either end.

[@Jetstreme]

So Cap can block the lightsaber so long as the lightsaber isn't being held down on the shield for a decent amount of time, essentially? Cool! I have no idea what to do with this information!

[@infinightmoon6268]

+Jetstream Infinity Fanfiction?

[@deltax930]

+Jetstream Infinity except that way before it starts melting it probably gets hot as fuck

[@toxictaffy8098]

+Jetstream Infinity Well yeah, but then it comes down to is The Jedi strong enough to push the shield back and keep it their or can Cap A push them away. Also, is the Jedi fast enough to keep repeating his lightsaber against the shield? So it comes down to if you think Captain America or a specific Jedi is better, and why they would be fighting in the first place.

[@DrSmokeTrees]

+Delta X Sort of. The Shield would dissipate the heat very quickly, but its impossible to really measure how fast.

[@Alex-wi1mx]

+Luka Zanetic and in star wars the force awakens, Kylo Ren holds a lightsaber close to Ray's face. If the lightsaber was as hot as he said her face would probably be at least burned from the radiating heat

[@joshwalker8984]

I Agree with Nerd Thor!

[@winkwinkstroke02]

*Pokemon Pokecoins* twitter.com/dailyoffers98/status/755344932664143872?v=5xFM-eq_ej8?v=5xFM-eq_ej8

[@azmimezah0265]

Nhor

[@sanjithtamballa]

+Jemi Mejah XD LOLS

[@natanael2213]

*Pokemon_Go* Unlimited Pokecoins twitter.com/linda_smith015/status/762367710386917376?v=5xFM-eq_ej8

[@farasapt6579]

nerd thor is my favorite thor

[@a-typical9493]

Just found this channel this morning.. Lovin' it! Very entertaining. Keep up the good work, y'all!

[@daphneyantoine9645]

"go ahead and say you can throw caps shield into the sun, and it wouldnt melt. do it. DOOO IIIT. NERD." 😂 lmao

[@ronnoc6834]

Thanks for doing this in Celsius and not Fahrenheit.....

[@roo6492]

+Ronnoc's Stop Motion Studio Should of done it in Kelvin, cause SCIENCE.

[@mutzikatzi1]

+Roo Kelvin and Celsius isn't such a difference. (Not as much as Fahrenheit)

[@mutzikatzi1]

+Ronnoc's Stop Motion Studio I think every serious scienes guy uses Celsius/Kelvin :D

[@blitzburn2871]

+Ronnoc's Stop Motion Studio I know, its really refreshing to see someone use a proper temperature scale

[@Kuebel350]

ALL HAIL THE METRIC SYSTEM!

[@Lyro92]

It's like the blast doors in star wars, it blocked the lightsaber, but with enough time and force it was able to burn thru.

[@supervivens3402]

Lyro92 so your saying blast doors are on the same level as caps shield...

[@jackkrichilsky]

yea, its designed to be indestructible to blasters. So the effect would be somewhat similar

[@mazash2066]

The captain's shield is made of an alloy of Adamantium and Vibranium + an unknown component, the lightsaber is just plasma in a magnetic field, the sword is not able to harm the shield

[@guygoins6237]

​@@mazash2066No I looked it up, Proto Adamantium is made out of Steel, Vibranium, and a unknown ingredient.

[@SSVjoker]

ooooor you could Force pull the shield and hit Rogers's face with it

[@justingilt7754]

Haha that's Cinda funny

[@marvnuts]

Star Wars presents a world where Jango Fett can make Obi Wan look like an idiot. Fett is no match for El Capitan.

[@unit0137]

TheGuillejedi :> Yup. Dark side ftw >:)

[@radoslavstamenov9519]

+TheGuillejedi This is most logical comment i have ever heard of

[@wchase10ful]

SSVjoker go force!

[@anthonyhargis6855]

I could see the shield blocking strikes, but -- as in the Phantom Menace -- the light saber could burn through it, as was being done to the blast door.

[@annyske007]

Who else keeps wanting to unsubscribe from this channel exept for when "Because Science" comes out. It's the only thing i watch on this channel

[@jacklynch4298]

I didn't even know this channel did other shit hahaha

[@cakeknight6269]

+jack lynch its like finding out a strip club has a day care

[@CrappyCar]

+annyske007 Dan Cave is amazing.

[@nothingtospiffy1104]

I only watch it for nerdist news with Jessica chobot this is one of the only times ive watched a video that wasn't chobot

[@NosajKnows]

I love everything they do and every person that does the things that I love them doing everything together that I love.

[@-ragingpotato-937]

*sees video in recommended* ok, why is thor holding Kylo's lightsaber and captain america's shield?

[@KamenDragon]

in the comics thanos destroyed caps shield just by punching/smacking it into pieces. or odins brother serpent ripped it off...with his bare hands. so my question is, how strong are they beeing able to do this? i mean how could thanos do this? i thought the shield absorbs kinetic energy. so why couldn't it absorb the punches from thanos? o.O

[@DavidBrown-fb7lm]

Thanos survived inside a Black hole AFTER a sustained beating. Serpent is supposed to be Odin's better and Odin has destroyed galaxies in battle.

[@KamenDragon]

David Brown stillt doesn't answer my question about thanos smacking the shield. i mean it repelled thor's hammer with full force and thanos just bitch-slaps the shield into pieces... xD

[@navag7123]

Phuong Nguyen thanos used the infinity gauntlet which is a glove that has these power gems that can pretty much destroy anything when all together so thanos cannot break his shield with his bare hands he used the infinity gauntlet.

[@KamenDragon]

so the power of the gauntlet has weakened the shield, that thanos could smack it with ease... but still... how? did it change the moleculare level of the shield like molecular man or... what? o.O need a proper explaination :D

[@peytonmac1131]

The infinity gauntlet makes the wielder, for all intents and purposes, an omnipotent god. Thanos could just override the laws of physics that allow Caps shield to work and turn it to dust. Basically, Thanos wanted the shield to break, therefore, it broke. Screw logic or physics.

[@jasonmayer1819]

Omg interesting science there! love your videos! i always find myself watching one after another and it's hard to stop watching! You can reliably answer many nerd questions! keep up the great videos!

[@georgelionon9050]

Can The Hulk lift Thor while Thor is holding the hammer?

[@ellisaudio9727]

Technically yes. Cuz the one who is Worthy can lift the hammer. So if Thor is holding the hammer... And hulk picks up Thor... Then the Hulk will be able to pick up both... Now, if Thor lets go of the hammer into Hulk's hand... Then Hulk will be pinned underneath it.

[@georgelionon9050]

Ja, makes sense.

[@selwrynn6702]

+Goofy GooberInc but in hulk wars doesn't hulk throw the moon at earth, hulks super power is the angrier he gets the stronger he gets and I haven't seen much of the new stuff, but is their any end to that, or is it just limitless.

[@NobleKos]

+George Lionon I like to think that Mjolnir works on an equal to opposite force principle. where if you are not worthy, no matter how much force you apply to lift it, it will exude that much force in the opposite direction. therefore never changing its weight but making it impossible to lift.

[@PrimordialMusic]

+NobleKos oh I like your answer.

[@That_River]

Am I the only one who thinks this guy is, not just, entertaining but adorable as well? Something about his enthusiasm just makes me smile. You keep being awesome Kyle Hill!

[@julesb6121]

kyle, thank you very much for being the guru in answering all those nerdy questions about my favourite sci-fi movies/shows, keep those videos going. p.s maybe you can do a video on how can someone become a reaver from firefly.....because science

[@db153yt]

Just realized his catch phrase is BS

[@mattg944]

You're the hero we deserve, sir.

[@isramations7565]

It took me too long to get that.

[@LifeIsGood087]

OHHHHH Snap!

[@jasonbox4135]

all but bill naye :p

[@FirstIsa]

Except he's never claimed to have more than that- although he does have an impressive collection of Honorary degrees. In my mind what makes Nye a rela scientist isn't his education but his willingness to learn new things and his acceptance that his past assumptions about things can be wrong.

[@Nerdist]

If you want more Civil War science let me know -- the film is fantastic; you're going to love it. -- KH

[@miguelangel-yh8sm]

:D

[@jaeric]

+Nerdist TEAM CAP YOU COMMIE!!!

[@SacredBlazeXxX]

+Nerdist MORE CIVIL WAR!

[@mulberryman1305]

+Nerdist the thing people always seem to forget is that cap's shield has in fact been destroyed several times so it is not there for indestructible, although I would still be cheering for cap if such a fight actually happened

[@bartoszmazurek704]

#teamcap ftw

[@Mr_Glenn]

Thor talking about a lightsaber destroying his friends shield...

[@timideratom3661]

+Glenn Hartman *lightsaber

[@Mr_Glenn]

+TimiderAtom yes that. Fuckin auto-correct.

[@petervigil5932]

+Glenn Hartman ikr

[@harwardwr]

You eat a lifesaver. You kill with a lightsaber

[@BenWhite9311]

A lifesaver? Like as in the candy?

[@shannonshelton2690]

The paint on Cap's shield comes of regularly, it is resurfaced and repainted by S.H.I.E.L.D.'s engineers.

[@testeurglandeur6609]

"You can throw captain America's shield in the sun and it would do nothing!" There I said it... all I need is some crazy comic book writer to think of it and add it in his comic book :P, Because, it's not science, it's pseudo comic book science fiction!

[@galtzar]

It's funny because this video is explained by Thor... LOL 😂 😂 😂

[@snowxn3409]

+JRob38 maybe Thors 2nd brother twice removed... NO beard ? No Viking !

[@nightmaretomb5294]

Technically Thor should have red hair, but superheroes couldn't be redheads (or have beards) back in 1962.

[@vitaemecha]

It's about as funny as all the billions of Thor comments. YAWN.

[@vitaemecha]

Why? Viking hair ranged from blonde to black. Red hair comes from Ireland.

[@MaJunior00]

+James jaremko Because in Norse mythology, is it clearly stated Thor has red hair. Marvel made him blonde, to fit the "Scandinavian stereotype."

[@ZebulonFoof]

The plural for Jedi is Jedi. Not Jedis.

[@Nerdist]

+ZebulonFoof Jedises? Octojedi? -- KH

[@megamegatron99]

+Nerdist there is a lot of scientific stuff to look into in the Ben 10 franchise, could you look into some of it and tell us whether or not stuff in that multi-verse could actually be a reality?

[@gromusodus1949]

+ZebulonFoof I believe the plural for Jedi is Judoon.

[@rachaelcttarre995]

+Gromus Odus as in giant rhinoceros cop aliens?

[@gromusodus1949]

Yes. That's exactly what a Jedi is.

[@brettreiman3069]

Best part: "Do it, neeeeerd"

[@mayhemx9]

Someone just asked this on one of social media pages and I posted the link I love this channel

[@csys690]

Yeah man, I'd hold a 150,000,000ºC sword in my hand. No prob.

[@kevindavis5966]

+csys690 Thanks, you saved me a reply.

[@colinjackson9720]

+csys690 hahaha this^ a sword that hot would destroy me, my enemy, and the surface of my planet

[@minimash2485]

not just the surface. It would boil the entire planet.

[@gherkayhd]

+csys690 Right, no problem. The plasma is held back by the magnetic field. And the handle is cooled or something. If it's possible to get the power to create a plasma saber out of the small handle, why shouldn't it be possible to use that power for cooling, too...?

[@kevindavis5966]

Gherkay A magnetic field can hold back radiant heat energy? C'mon, man, we're talking about science fiction energy swords here - be serious!

[@Grymmorgan]

Here's the part of the discussion that I think you missed. A lightsaber may well be capable of core temperatures ranging from thousands of degrees centigrade to surface-of-the-sun hot. But such actual heat, without mitigation, would evaporate any Jedi or Sith who attempted to use it. This clearly doesn't happen, so we must deduce that the magnetic field that curves the plasma blade in on itself also insulates the outside world from this heat. Call it something like a heat-exchange conduit, that efficiently pipes the excess heat back into the hilt for recycling as plasma fodder, or that converts it back to power. This being said, merely _holding_ a lightsaber against Cappy's shield would achieve next to nothing. It would take a sustained, Force-enhanced pressure (ala Qui Gon Jinn's assault on the door of the Federation bridge) to warm it at all. Secondly, we also know that the heat application of a lightsaber can be modulated, much like a real-life plasma torch, so that it can cut (high-temperature mode) and also weld (mid-temperature mode), as seen in the outtakes from episode III. For this reason, we can assume that using a lightsaber to cut something very resistant takes either sustained Force application, a parametric modulation of the saber's controls, or both. Finally, the Star Wars universe is filled with objects and materials that are "lightsaber-resistant." These are metals, materials, and fields that can take a standard blow from a lightsaber without damage. The EU has many such items, and we've seen a few in the canonical films and cartoons. It is reasonable to assume that the strongest metal on earth (or close to it) should easily keep parity with such non-terrestrial substances, and so would hold up in a standard battle. The "vibration" dissipating properties of vibranium should easily act as a heat sink to most applications of the saber to Cappy's shield. And Caps would be savvy enough to know that the shield is in danger of damage from a sustained attack - likely some 5-10 minutes before the shield even gets hot, I should think - and to keep "modulating" it by moving it, rotating it, shifting it, or whatever else is necessary to maintain its form and temperature and relieve any sustain against it. Therefore, I think a Steve Rogers/Jedi-Sith combat would be, if not evenly matched, at least not a slam dunk against us Earthlings. And just imagine the shock of a Sith getting a Forceball volleyed back to their face by a non-Force adept!! ;^D

[@stonedreality5125]

+Grymmorgan why put so much thought into bs?

[@Grymmorgan]

Stoned Reality Um…because…science? ;^)

[@tjplitfc]

+Grymmorgan boy, you must be fun at parties

[@Grymmorgan]

tjplitfc "Puh…" Um…"parties?" What's _that_ do?!? o.O

[@tjplitfc]

+Grymmorgan xD omg haha nice response lol

[@ThePhoenixRH]

That's it... you had me at TEAM IORNMAN!!! fudging subscribed lol

[@drinkcyanide3260]

Plot Twitst: Cap Shield has infused Manadalorian Iron

[@jason222shark]

Mandalorian*

[@jaquesgillman8573]

+jason222shark lmao i didnt know i mistype

[@davidlowman8494]

Well technically with the uru upgrade it could be seen as this

[@notasmo9120]

*Midoclorian

[@aerophine_66]

@Not Asmo... **Midichlorian*

[@Joni_Tarvainen]

Found this channel yesterday. Immediatelly fell in love with it and subscribed. And already new video? Thanks! :D

[@Nerdist]

+Joni Tarvainen Thank YOU for watching! -- KH

[@legitmarbles3125]

+Nerdist just letting you know cap now has a shield made of euro, which is what Thor's hammer is made of so... can you do Thor's hammer vs light saber because the outcomes would be the same with both

[@oscar-wr4ks]

lightsabers can't melt vibranum beams Palpatine did 9/11

[@takedomuremasa3933]

+Oscar E Ackbar did Yavin 4!

[@ezekielgallegos6]

Cap's shield also lets off energy when it absorbs it, like when Thor hits Cap's shield in the first Avengers film, so due to the high temp of the plasma blade, it would be letting off the thermal energy about as fast as it absorbs it, it could even act almost like a heat mirror, sending the heat right back at the wielder of the light saber.

[@Deerhunterjs]

But how well does the shield dissipate heat? That would be the question that needs answering to know if it's possible to melt it with repeated hits since cap probably won't let someone hold a lightsaber against his shield for to long.

[@MrSenset]

So Cap's shield could deflect lightsaber strikes but if the lightsaber was held against the shield for a few seconds then it would start to melt through it. That sounds about right! A fight with both of these weapons would come down to a battle of skill and technique. I really like that idea.

[@NeivGabay]

+Uilliam Coorinna but he needs to understand how to fight it

[@cooperzilkenat3220]

You can't cut through FREEDOM

[@LazyOtaku]

Idiots like him is why freedom doesn't exist in the real world.

[@Aphichat.]

+Cooper Zilkenat Yes i can with Trump.

[@grandmastercain]

I think you all have to examine the feats we can check. Cap's shield had repeatedly withstood hits from the Human Torch's "Nova Flame" The exact upper temperature isn't known, but in theory it can match an actual nova, which can reach 20 million kelvin, or about 36 million farenheit. The energy-absorbing properties allowed Cap to be unharmed on the other side, for whatever reason, and apparently the shield wasn't even hot to hold. Based on that, I don't think even the highest estimate of a lightsaber's temperature can even come close to this temperature. And since this temperature was ineffective at hurting the shield, I don;t think any lightsaber can cut through it. As for "ligbtsabers can only be blocked by certain materials"-- not true. We see lots of material resist lightsabers in the canon sources, the question is merely how long it takes to overcome it. In TPM, Qui Gon is slowly cutting through a blast door, and he would eventually have succeeded; however, the door still stops him until reinforcements arrive. So, some material will hold off a lightsaber indefinitely. Of course, the more interesting question is the Death Battle. Who would win, Cap or a Jedi? Or better yet, Cap vs Darth Maul?

[@Dragonsmith0]

So the thing about the properties of the shield that make it nigh indestructible is that not only does the vibebranium absorb kinetic (and other forms) of energy but because of it's unique structure it actually quantum tunnnels that energy back into reinforcing the bonds of the overall structure. The more it absorbs the stronger it gets. The only way to break it is at the quantum level as we have seen happen several times.

[@TheEyez187]

So 15,000,000 degree's C doesn't instantly destroy the shield, pity you can't say the same about the now vapourized Steve Rogers!!! Captain Nowhere!!

[@canadiangopher4443]

or the vaporized jedi who is holding the lightsaber, 15,000,000 degrees just inches from your hand would melt your hand the instant you pushed the button to activate it.

[@TheEyez187]

ikr, Because Science is missing something!! Also, think about the fight in the arena in Clone Wars (SW II), that many jedi brandishing their lightsabers, wouldn't all that combined heat greatly affect the surroundings of Geonosis?!? :D

[@canadiangopher4443]

***** affect it, one light saber would melt an entire planet, think of what it would be like if the sun was only 2 feet away from the surface of our planet.

[@TheEyez187]

Of course!! That's a derp on my part! They've got the heat, if there was enough mass they'd make a Hyper-Giant Star! :D

[@MrSwiftness]

Oh wow I didn't realize that the magnetic field in the reactor he talks about that actually exist didn't stop the heat from melting our entire planet, who would have known that we are actually all dead...

[@JuggerKnight717]

This is why Thor isn't in Civil War, he was discussing whether or not lightsabers could cut through Cpt. America's shield

[@Ms.Nightshade]

Just a quick little science lesson for any of you that are interesed: Gallium's melting point is approximately room temperature. Tungsten's melting point is 6000 (Six Thousand) degrees Fahrenheit. Bonus: The melting point of Carbon is *6500* degrees Fahrenheit!

[@ryancraigt]

@Nerdist I think you missed something. At around 2:40 you explain how the shields melting point would actually go down and become a value between steel and vibranium; but in actuality because of vibraniums quality of absorbing heat the amount of energy or heat required would GREATLY increase in turn increasing the melting point. We know that this quality will absorb heat because of what you talked about right after, heat is really just the quality of moving or shaking atoms which is kinetic energy.

[@noeloe-re2vy]

Plasma fuel can't melt vibranium beams

[@TheEpicImpaler]

Disney did 9/11

[@5961marc]

Trump did 7/11

[@calebedwards8596]

Hydra did the Starkiller base bombing.

[@squonchgames]

+Marco Fatica HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE 711 FIRE STATION

[@Nerdist]

+DerVentilator Doesn't have to melt it, just reduce its material strength enough for the shield to fail under stress. -- KH

[@jamesroberts7021]

Do you think a jedi could use the force to lift mjolnir?

[@PixlPlayer]

Already a video

[@jamesroberts7021]

+PixlPlayer oh

[@dashmaddox]

+PixlPlayer where....? 😳 this channel?

[@PixlPlayer]

+Dash Maddox yep

[@dashmaddox]

+PixlPlayer found it. Everything I know is now forever changed.... Thank you. 😱

[@chandansidhu]

Energy absorbing properties can be greatly influenced by shape. (Think coil springs that compress on one axis). This means that kinetic energy could be absorbed by the face of the shield but can still bounce around on its edge.

[@raymondpope581]

Please do a video on Power Ranger, Morphing, Zord Combine, an how they're are never any squished bystanders. And lastly when they destroy a monster how would u rate the Devastation from the explosion.

[@Cortexsaga]

If the lightsaber was as hot as the "Tokemok" (fuck if i know how to spell it), it would kill the wielder just by being near it from the sheer amount of heat.

[@techguypaul]

+Cortexsaga Not really. The magnetic field keeps the temperatures contained and protects the user. That's why the "Tokemok" doesn't melt the Earth. If we created something that hot without a magnetic field to contain it, we'd destroy the Earth.

[@Problem1Solution]

+Paul Burt so your saying kylo ren's saber is a well-formed magnetic field 0-0 with those flickers and stuff

[@techguypaul]

narutodies2 If it wasn't, it wouldn't even be a saber. And Rey's has the same look; it's just Abrams' style.

[@Cortexsaga]

So what ur saying is that the temperture is being contained to only within the lightsaber and that there is no radiant heat? Except for of course the blinding light that is the lightsaber itself, which is radiating heat in the form of light tho. Also it wouldn't destroy the earth, it may melt a portion of it, but even then not a large one. once the "tokemok" failed the heat would disperse, yada yada.

[@cryme5]

False, it's just the void.

[@Carltoncurtis1]

Great. Now explain how the hell are these people swinging around sticks hotter than the sun.

[@namesizack]

+HotSkull without melting themselves and everything around them

[@Sinfiny1024]

I'm by no means a chemistry expert, but I have a question when you talk about the shield melting at the temperature it was forged. I think there may be something to this. I realize that this may be a stretch, but a liquid egg can no longer become a liquid once it's cooked due to what I understand is an irreversible thermal reaction. I realize that certain chemicals could potentially return the gelatin of a cooked or boiled egg to a liquid, but that's not the question posed. Could there be something in this third "mysterious substance" that would have a similar chemical effect making the shield impervious to at least the temperature it was forged at?

[@marshmallowguy7997]

There are materials in Star Wars that can block a lightsaber completely and some that can block light touches from a lightsaber, so it is possible and I think Cap's shield could block light hits and if strong enough heavy blows and extended contact.

[@mazash2066]

The lightsaber is not lightsaber, it is plasma enclosed in a magnetic field

[@throwback74]

Thank you for the last part! That has always driven me crazy

[@Nerdist]

+Corey Slade Thanks for watching Corey!

[@KazanaAoi]

+Corey Slade My thought on the subject is that the shield is simply doing what it always does... Absorbing the force of impact and then re-releasing it along the edges of the shield, just like when struck by Thor's hammer. That's why it can only bounce a few times despite being thrown by Captain America's relatively absurd strength, and when struck along the broad sides of the shield it can be easily redirected.

[@isaac2152]

Even if the shield was indestructible, you could use the force to remove it from him.

[@TheWillMan2002]

so true

[@zario12]

+Isaac W You could also ask him nicely for the shield, but these scenarios are not in question here

[@reginaldmadlock]

Its not cap vs a jedi its Shield vs saber

[@Malphorus]

+Isaac W Uhm, you'd just end up pulling captain america right to you... He'd falcon punch your ass. :V

[@onlyvirginiapeanuts]

+Isaac W completely beside the point. The question involves only the two items and has nothing to do with who wields them.

[@_Bren__]

“Go ahead, nerd” I love that.

[@menkros1]

Hahaha

[@TheCuddleCactus]

From the OHOTMU entry for Firelord: By the slightest manifestation of his stellar powers, he can burn through any Earthly substance (with the exception of Adamantium). Firelord can reach the temperature of a star, which is very much higher than that of the Torch and so at maximum output he might be able to burn through. Also 2:23 "The extremely stable molecular structure of the Adamantium prevents it from being molded further, even if the temperature remains high enough to keep it in liquefied form. Only a device celled a Molecular Rearranger can alter the form of hardened Adamantium." So it would melt but it wouldn't change shape.

[@MLGshzlss]

Already loved this show, only one on this channel I watch, but you just earned a new lover with the Team Iron Man comment

[@Nerdist]

+Travis Hall Thanks for watching, Travis!

[@lord_leprechaun2989]

So of the plasma in a lightsaper is hoter than the sun how are all the Jedi not getting a sun tan?

[@bytheside3331]

hahahahah yeah

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

+Lord_leprechaun My guess is that the plasma's heat is somehow contained by the field that holds it.

[@lord_leprechaun2989]

I thought about that but then how does the heat melt anything?

[@100organicfreshmemes5]

Lord_leprechaun By moving the lightsaber onto people so they're exposed to the heat?

[@TurKlack]

+Get Rekt Scrub That's something we can't answer....yet.

[@ChristopherLaHaise]

The way I see it with the little easter egg at the end. Captain America's shield absorbs along the flat side, and disperses along the rim, which is why when it hits a wall, it gets a larger ricochet than you'd expect from it, but if you hit flat end it creates a dispersal effect (ala Thor hitting the shield). What doesn't work, perhaps, is when they fire Iron Man's blasts at the shield and it reflects it off - though you could say, perhaps, that a high concentration of force gets reflected, maybe.

[@blackbusiness7]

I think Supreme Leader Snok'e Elite Praetorian Guard's armor is made of the same stuff. That may be a worthwhile vid: Which would make a better baseball cup, caps shield material, or the Elite Praetorian Guard's armor material.

[@hussainkhuraibet2220]

The more educated question can a light saber cut superman

[@orbemsolis]

+Hussain Khuraibet haha

[@gg2ezzz]

+Hussain Khuraibet well my guess yes ,if lightning and magic , including kryptonite can hurt him then yes

[@hussainkhuraibet2220]

ooo nice but would the force work on supes cause he pretty damn strong

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

Yes.

[@supersaiyangoddess4293]

+gianni felicien Magic doesn't harm him he just isn't as resistant towards it as other things. Also it takes Mjolnir level magic to harm Superman, a Lightsaber is like a kids toy compared to that.

[@littlesherlock2313]

A jedi would win that fight anyway. He has the force, if cap throws his shield the jedi can catch it. If cap runs at him, the jedi throws him back. If cap has a gun and shoots at him, he either disintegrates the bullet with his light saber or uses the force to deflect it.

[@seb4sti4n666]

+Matthew Siano If Cap got a gun.... A gun from earth and not a plasma gun.... Then the Jedi die at the first shot.... Even if the plasma boil the ammo... The ammo will still move at him and burn him.... Worst then just the normal bullet.

[@littlesherlock2313]

+seb4sti4n666 no it would disintegrate in that heat

[@littlesherlock2313]

+seb4sti4n666 also plasma shots are deflected with the aid of the force, so the jedi would use the force to deflect it too. So even if it didn't instantly disintegrate, it would be deflected with the force.

[@grandadmiralthrawn8116]

seb4sti4n666 a light saber can block solid matter as well

[@shannonshelton2690]

The Proto-Adamantium in Cap's shield along with it's unique structure does more than just absorb energy, it redirects any energy that cannot be absorbed. The idea is that the shield's absorbing and repelling abilities will kick in before the metal is effected. In this particular case the framing of the shield is a similar design to a perfectly circular spiderweb. If spiderwebbing wasn't sticky it would act like a trampoline. This is what the structure of the shields does, while the elements of the shield does other things according to their atomic structure. ( i. e. Vibranium )

[@justinfinitely]

I think that how vibranium absorbd kinetic energy is overlooked. I remember seeing somewhere that when the vibranium absorbs kinetic energy, it uses it to strengthen its intermolecular bonds, and in doing so would make it both tougher and more difficult to melt, so if you think about it, each lightsaber hit would have less and less of an effect. I just found that interesting.

[@dougindigo1928]

Yeah ok but how well would the steel do against jet fuel? specifically in beam form?

[@jason222shark]

But can they melt dank memes?

[@Fyrebird721]

just because the steel isn't melted doesn't mean the steel isn't weakened enough that a sufficient enough weight, such as, say, even 10 floors of a skyscraper has, can cause the steel to collapse so much that it can no longer support the weight above it, and the portion above it falls

[@patrickgarfield2231]

Jet fuel cant melt Captain America's shield.

[@speeddemond1991]

Hes blocked ironmans hand rockets... Hes blocked a blow from thors hammer. A lightsaber in the marvel universe wouldent do much to the shield.

[@TheTheGizmotto]

hey cgus, try to watch the video again. he clearly stated that the vibrations from thors hammer hits are adsorbed, thats understandable. the hand rockets are not only heat, but vibration as well, as well as not able to be hot enough to do the damage it needs. BUT, he does say a lightsaber, would melt through the shield. he COULD block it for some time, very short be that as it may. but it is not vibration, its heat. and it is so hot it would melt through it.

[@anonymoussteve3372]

In the (No longer cannon) Star Wars EU, there were a class of weapons called vibroblades. A vibroblade constructed with a cortosis-weave could be used to parry a lightsaber. A cortosis-weave would be something a kin to damascus steel utilizing cortosis ore folded into the blade. Cortosis ore actually shorts out lightsaber blades on contact. The weave simply prevented the lightsaber from cleaving the blade in two at the point of contact. The more cortosis-rich alloy used in a weapon's construction, allowing more weapons to be made effective versus lightsabers. Given that we have do not know the 3rd alloy in Capt's Shield, if it had properties as Cortosis Ore, The Shield would deflect a lightsaber without taking damage. However without any bases to compare the mystery alloy in the shield and cortosis ore, their is know way to know for sure. With that being said, now that Marvel and Star Wars are now both under the Disney umbrella, maybe we will get the opportunity to find out in a crossover comic book! I would love to see the face of the first Jedi or Sith to have their lightsaber bounce off Capt's shield. Just food for thought.

[@sam117mas]

Great video! I'm a big fan of Captain America and Star Wars so this was a great video for me.

[@GabrielMajere]

This brings up a question I've asked at other places and has caused a lot of arguments. Forget who you like better, which is stronger, Wolverine's claw or a light saber? Also who would win, Wolverine or a Jedi knight?

[@hrdkorebp]

So you are telling us that in the Star Wars universe, people walk around with 14,000°C heaters? Nope, can't be that hot.

[@bustybiscuits6971]

well im probably not the smartest person but this is a fictional universe and they may, just may, have the technology or force power to contain the heat unless it comes into contact with another substance but as i said, im no expert and no one can know for sure

[@WhyYouDoThisToMe]

+Billy Batson Plasma in an electromagnetic field. 14k Celsius is much lower than a lightsaber supposedly operates at, otherwise how could it melt the space station door so efficiently in Episode 1? The heat is kept inside by the outer, weakest layer of the EMF produced by the generator (which is why Qui-Gon isn't through the door in nothing flat). So yeah, without that outer layer the moment a lightsaber turned on it would kill everything in the room (or area) just by the amount of heat coming off of it.

[@CryptidZeker415]

I think there was 1 factor that was missed in this argument, which was that in a not to long ago arc, caps shield was broken(Via norse god infused magic) to which Iron Man and the dwarves of Nidavellir repaired it via Uru Infusement(The stuff that thors hammer is made out of) making it the strongest it has ever been before and given that Uru itself is made of a number of special properties(Heck, its gone threw the sun and back no problem) Id think it would well...........make it withstand a far better chance against a lightsaber than people would think(Not trying to discredit anyone, just thought this would be something fun for people to know)

[@allangonzalez7891]

yeah but in comics every thing is posible and like u say the shield was repared a lot of times but was destroy a lot o times to. and this is cience

[@CryptidZeker415]

LeoGonX it was destroyed in the past(via reality warping or immense magic based powers both of which are on the boundary of giving science the middle finger) but it would go on to be restored to its natural lv I'd durability but you know, it's now Uru enforced making it the strongest, one of a kind item out there now(hell, even in th 30th century it still remains in tack and is considered a legendary artifact right up there with mjolnir to which major victory uses that as his weapon of choice which holds more than enough against the tech based weaponry of that era)

[@nightmaretomb5294]

In one Avengers story it was disintegrated by a laser beam. Then it turned up in the next issue with no explanation for why it still existed.

[@AnoNYmous-bz2ef]

Haha that one at the end, been my thought since Thor first hit it with Mjolnir in the MCU. I wonder how long a lightsaber has to be in contact with Cap's shield for it to melt though. I mean if it's the same kind of fighting we see in movies where they just bash it and not really lock swords, won't the time between hits be enough for the shield to cool down? (I still think Cap would get Force Choked to death if he fights a Jedi)

[@tactuabadgers6700]

One who is with the jedi way would not force choke an enemy only a sith would do that

[@MasterTim1127]

I love when your Ultrasaber makes a surprise visit.

[@MilanTheAngel]

Can Saitama(One Punch Man) break a Nokia-3310??

[@austinbaker8042]

+Vegeta Or the Droid Turbo?

[@hansthedudefans2828]

+Vegeta no

[@goldehh1069]

He can break anything

[@the_mastermage]

+Goldehh but its a nokia One time someone threw a nokia against a wall we germans call that the fall of the Berlin Wall.

[@dissolution9843]

+Vegeta He wouldn't but assuming Cap was sitting behind the shield waiting to absorb the shock the pure amount of kinetic energy behind it would exceed the fantastic limits of the shield and Captain would more than likely die.

[@TheNewsDepot]

It was my understanding that the reason all things made of Vibranium are alloys is because Vibranium itself is liquid at room temperature and the mystery ingredient used in Captain America's shield and other vibranium products is a type of metal cement that "sets" like concrete and grows stronger over time just like concrete. The vibranium contained within this metal concrete absorbs vibrations, while the steel provides structure and the cement holds it all together. Sure a Lightsaber can likely melt through it, especially since we see a lightsaber melting through a blast door which is specifically designed to absorb heavy blaster fire, but we also know that certain crystals shunt lightsaber bemas, so unless we know the third ingredient to Cap's shield, then we can't say for certain. Maybe Cap's Shield uses Cortiss in it's cement. #TeamCap

[@Citrakite]

+Chad C. It is not. Vibranium is a solid, even in it's raw ore state as we've seen it in the mines of Wakanda. Black Panther's costume and weapons are made with pure refined Vibranium.

[@devilofheaven13]

"you done..?" lol

[@ahrenstarr6273]

Interesting analysis. My thought - if the matter comprising the shield changes states, it would cease being a shield and instead be something like a puddle. =)

[@timothyabakani1155]

Kyle.... Where'd you get your Saver?!!!!

[@timothyabakani1155]

Saber*

[@Nerdist]

+Timothy Abakani Ultrasabers!

[@loganharvey6505]

+Nerdist ultrasabers ftw

[@andriusandrau]

+Timothy Abakani Simple answer, he got a bank account with this advantage saver service with good interest rates.

[@ArynosValinir]

+Timothy Abakani The blades have rounded tops which appear more like Ultrasaber's designs, however it means it is less durable and more display and toy. If you ever want to look into getting one yourself, I recommend Saberforge, you have more options and all sabers are 'dual-ready' and warrantied longer. Just don't ever join their Kickstarters or Indiegogo campaigns.. they suck at making sure they meet their timelines and communicating back to their backers.

[@506thLittleberry]

If a lightsaber's blade is so hot, how come a the wielder's hand doesn't melt instantly when they turn it on? You'd think being mere centimeters away from something 10 times as hot as the core of the sun would be hazardous to one's health.

[@littlesherlock2313]

The force

[@thecoldlight]

The Force and Midichlorians literally have no merit since non-force-sensitives have wielded lightsabers (General Grievous, Finn, etc) in the past.

[@506thLittleberry]

Exactly what Keith said. Every time you see a lightsaber turned on in close proximity to anyone other than a Jedi or Sith people should be either exploding or melting instantly depending on if they're organic or droids.

[@littlesherlock2313]

+mrsiCkstar good point. Well I suppose it's a technology built into the light saber

[@MrTevens]

+mrsiCkstar Also there is the fact that you get sunburned by the sun even though we are as far away as we are from the sun and it travels through the layers of the atmosphere. So really everyone who is close to it should be instantly burned and probably should be blind. But yeah... I mean there is the whole force thing.

[@travisimmortalis2135]

Great. Now I can't get this image out of my head, of the Cap's shield splatting against a wall and dropping like a soppy-wet sponge. 😂

[@MaJunior00]

Worth pointing out that originally, Cap's shield was Vibranium, Adamantium, and an unknown agent. Changing it to the origin of "proto-adamantium" was done later. Also, a lightsaber can't be that hot. That type of heat would combust anything flammable that was nearby... like Jedi robes. The magnetic field you theorize holds the plasma of the blade in place wouldn't (shouldn't?) prevent heat transfer to the air. I know you can calculate heat dispersal to figure out ranges, but that doesn't matter. Three or four feet isn't going to be enough to disperse enough heat.

[@vzangel]

If a lightsaber is 150,000,000°C, wouldn't it melt/ignite things around it?

[@ono446]

I think it's being contained by the magnetic field

[@vzangel]

OK, that sounds possible, but then why there's no noticeable interaction of the magnetic field with the environment? And how would the lightsaber could even touch a metallic shield (which has been shown affected by magnetism)? It either would attract it or repel it. If it attracts things then things around it should be attracted, if it repels things then it couldn't touch the shield or great strength would be needed.

[@Tesseract9630]

+Benjamin Tuesday but you cannot contain the heat generated by the plasma, nor can you contain the em waves such as x rays or gamma rays that would be emtting from the lightsaber plasma. the radiation will kill anyone who is standing in the room with the lightsaber in minutes, if they dont die from the heat first in a matter of seconds.

[@vzangel]

jimenez1221 Exactly! Star Wars is fantasy, not Sci-Fi, it's like trying to explain how Harry Potter's wand works.

[@ono446]

+jimenez1221 I'm sure there is a logical reason. I'm in grade ten though, so I don't really know enough about physics and chemistry.

[@thetattooedyoshi]

1:03 A fair analysis/hypothesis, Kyle. HOWEVER, the Knights of the Old Republic games AND short clips from the Star Wars the Clone Wars TV series would have us believe that that plasma coil is actually generated from an energy crystal that supposedly resonates with a jedi's force power/sensitivity, and thus can vary in its heat from wielder to wielder. This in turn means that someone like Anakin/Vader or Luke Skywalker can possibly penetrate Cap's shield given they use enough of their force power behind the swing of the saber. Their force power combined with their physical strength would vary the amount of force applied to the shield quite a bit depending on the wielder so it is very difficult to tell whether or not the saber would actually make the cut. In this sort of a scenario I would have to say that a lightsaber cutting Cap's shield is very VERY situational even with your given hypothesis that the saber would melt the shield if held against it long enough. Knowing how Cap fights and how someone like Luke would fight, Cap would probably be the winner because Luke, while a great lightsaber duelist and with great reflexes, probably would be outclassed by the returning strength of our favorite American super soldier which brings us to the second part of my thought process on this question. It's not a matter of could the lightsaber beat the shield, it's more a matter of could the Captain beat a Master? Or any jedi for that matter? Again, very sitational because no two jedi are of the same fighting style or force power levels. Those are just my ramblings though. :P If anyone wants to correct me on anything I might've missed, please feel free to call me out on it. We all make mistakes.

[@joshfitton7835]

how do han solo and finn use a lightsabre then?

[@thetattooedyoshi]

Josh Fitton As Obi-Wan, or "Old Ben" if you prefer, states in the first Star Wars movie and Yoda repeats a little later. The Force flows through all living things. This gives me the theory that Han & Finn can't necessarily fully tap into the Force, but when they need it the most, it's there for them. Hence why Han was able to use it for a couple of minutes in Empire Strikes Back and Finn was able to sort of use it for a few minutes in Force Awakens. Technically everyone can use the force and everyone has some form of base level force power and the crystal in the saber will resonate with that power regardless of the wielder having an aura of Dark Side or Light Side in them. It's just a matter of weather or not The Force will decide if someone is worthy of using the saber. It's kinda like Mjolnir, but almost everyone is worthy.

[@joshfitton7835]

thanks for clearing that up :)

[@thetattooedyoshi]

Josh Fitton No problem, mate. : ^)

[@GRELL122]

Well said

[@jbasoo]

Maybe the edge of the shield has a higher steel content, allowing it to bounce when thrown but deflect a centre impact... or maybe like Spidey said it just doesn't obey the laws of physics.

[@claytonrichardson3201]

So you're saying if we're using real life logic, you think it's far fetched for the vibranium not being able to melt again after turning solid, but someone could hold something 10 times hotter than the suns core and not die? Hmmmm

[@Pogol13]

Clayton Richardson LOL 😂 Exactly. In order to make this explanation work, he essentially changes the stated properties of Cap’s shield, in effect “nerfing” it while simultaneously buffing the observed properties/effects of lightsabers. It’s all make-believe. This attempt at applying real-world physics to objects that basically defies real-world physics is cute and all, but it’s pointless.

[@DoctorLazers]

We have to use observable evidence here. From what we can observe, whatever magnetic field that sustains the lightsaber keeps heat from escaping beyond the surface of the 'blade.' We can also say, without a doubt, that Vibranium has a melting point listed in the comics that is well below the amount generated by any plasma arc. Adamantium's melting point is far lower than Vibranium's.

[@MsF4ucorsair]

Do the Wall from game of thrones next!

[@Malicious_Hero]

So Cap could block single blows, but not block a lightsaber being forced against it. Yeah, yeah that sounds like its right.

[@jameslightfoot1872]

What if we suppose that vibranium has an extremely high latent heat of fusion? It may indeed have a melting point at 1500 C, but it would absorb a tremendous amount of energy before it actually changed phase. So, the light saber could, given enough time, raise the metal to it's melting point, but it might take a really long time.

[@appa609]

There's many examples of materials that can't melt once they're cast. Two component network polymers for example. I've always thought of adamantium as curing more than freezing. We don't know that vibration and steel behave like classical metals in alloy, so it's possible Proto adamantium doesn't melt at all.

[@jonathanthompson4077]

Thats a good point about the shield at the end, actually

[@aaron-hsu86]

+Jonathan Thompson I remember reading/hearing somewhere that the bouncing of his shield is manipulated through magnets or some other stuff. Meaning, while it should absorb the force and drop after hitting a wall, the magnet should pull it back to him. Also something about how it helps direct it's bouncing around. But honestly, that's just silly. I just say it's magical like Thor's hammer.

[@GamesFromSpace]

He says the shield can't melt in the canon, and then says "but that's not how it works in reality." Yeah, because it's a fictional material. You can't just ignore an official property for being unrealistic. Captain America's shield is nigh indestructible and comes from a universe where magic exists. Light sabers take time to cut through metal doors, and even in the Star Wars universe there are materials impervious to light sabers. The shield wins.

[@96Logan]

I wouldn't say that magic exists in Captain America's universe. I have never read any comics or anything so I don't have a very good background. But what I have heard is that it isn't magic but just highly advanced. Like Thor's hammer. It isn't magic. It may seem magical to someone who isn't familiar with the technology like fingerprint analysis and a "gravity" enhancing element in the hammer dealing with gravitons and such. At least I hope I was able to regurgitate some of the theories without too much distortion, haha.

[@ridethewindd44]

+Logan You're right in that the writers for the film went closer to the route of "science" for the mjolnir, however, Doctor (Stephen) Strange, and others like him are a part of the marvel universe (Cap's universe) and he is a straight up magic sorcerer.

[@96Logan]

+Hasan/Hashimoto/ learn something new every day. Thanks man. I am looking forward to seeing that movie when it comes out. I hope I am not the only one getting excited that marvel and DC seem to be on some sort of exponential chart with movie and TV makers giving these heros more of a front seat in the area of film.

[@ridethewindd44]

Logan Definitely, Though sometimes I give up on trying to chart it all It's definitely a blast trying to analyze all the stories and characters haah xD

[@GamesFromSpace]

Logan Magic definitely exists in the comics universe. Science is more of a thing in the MCU, but they still have outright magical stuff. Plus, even if you don't count super powers as magic, they definitely have physical laws at work which we don't have here. (The weird things the Scarlet Witch could do, for example.) And then there's Doctor Strange, of course, who is literally a sorcerer.

[@LordPrometheous]

Seeing science channels with millions of subs and views makes me still have hope for humanity.

[@RobertoLicardie]

"go ahead, do it - do it" hahahaha xD