Could Ben 10 Transform Into A Super Saiyan?

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This has been a much debated topic in the comments of some of my previous videos, and with The Fairly Oddparents Anime video finally dropping, this seemed like the perfect time to make this.
Also I got a new mic and haven't the slightest idea how to make sure it always records the same levels and didn't bother learning before creating this video. I'll go learn how to do that right now.
EDIT: If Ben had a Saiyan, I would name him MonKi. You can view a picture of him on my website.
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[@reaganp.1654]

Ok hear me out. Using the biomnitrix, Ben 10K could combine the DNA of Ditto/Echo Echo (id prefer ditto) and Saiyan and preform the ritual himself. He could multiply into hundreds of ditto-gokus and perform the ritual multiple times, until there is a (let's say) small army of super saiyan gods.

[@TheInkTank]

Damn that's actually a good point.

[@darktigersharkmax4432]

Kuro The Artist do u think that 1 million years of genetic modification is more helpful than getting trained by gods and while in different planes of existences? Don't worry im not a dragon ball fanboy lol

[@zee6697]

Didn't think about that!

[@TheInkTank]

Power-wise, yes. But you'd lose out on all the actual fighting experience you'd get training with the gods, which some might consider more valuable. I guess it depends on your goal - Do you want to be a powerful brute or an amazing fighter?

[@johnnyperry1471]

But Ben automatically gains the fighting experience that an alien requires. Wouldn't that make him rather skilled, maybe not the best but still skilled, as well as gaining his brutish strength.

[@pkthunder1233]

"And ultimate Swampfire can do, well this:" *ad comes on* Me: Swampfire can turn on ads, great.

[@km11game77]

Pk Fire123 "Turn On"

[@assassincharmander390]

Pk Fire123 lol 😂

[@mtlmansson4091]

Lol XD

[@Shard_Soldier]

Just think all of the things Saiyben could do with ad controlling.

[@pkthunder1233]

He could make the enemys have to wait to attack, while he just punches while they watch an ad. BUT WAIT! The battle is more than 10 minutes! MORE ADS THROUGHOUT THE BATTLE! AND BEN GETS MORE [Insert replacement for ad revenue here]!

[@Gaystradamus]

What if Ben got Doomsday's DNA and then tried to make an ultimate form out of that, Doomsday's whole thing is that he can never be killed by the same thing twice so if the Omnitrix spends a million years trying to find a new way to kill Doomsday then it would basically create the ultimate Invincible alien that could literally beat anything

[@pyrosfolly5698]

Throw Alien X at it. Actually on that note: How would Ben vs SCP-682 go down... Or Ben vs any SCP

[@cyberwolfy37]

@@pyrosfolly5698 SCP-682 has been written dead before. in the revised entry of scp173. 150 scp173 kept killing him for so long 682 basically gave up regenerating and die. I'm actually scared of that match up though. not many alien ben have has the capability to instantly kill 682. he can't freeze him with big chill, he'll just grow immune to cold or generate heat to melt the ice he can't incinerate him with heatblast, he can regenerate from the burn and become flame immune. he can't even use atomix since all that would do is give 682 immunity to radiation. ben would need alien x and basically deconstruct 682 at the subatomic level.

[@pyrosfolly5698]

@@cyberwolfy37If we're talking about 'canon' SCP-173, then no, SCP-682 still wins. The revised edition does exist, but it isn't canon to the actual continuity of the Foundation. It's more like an alternate universe. As for him being written out of existence - he came *back* from even that.

[@cyberwolfy37]

@@pyrosfolly5698 then there's no way to beat 682. all ben can do is turn into clockwork and lure 682 to the end of time and trap him there forever.

[@pyrosfolly5698]

@@cyberwolfy37 Well, there's your answer then.

[@doomedgundam6684]

"No Amount of training will let you reach that power." Jiren: Am I joke to you?

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

well, Jiren comes from another universe, Whis could have meant that goku and vegeta could not reach that level, or whis could have just been lying. one thing i've learn is that whis will do whatever the fuck whis wants. even if it means bitch slapping beerus unconscious.

[@UNLIMITED-DAN]

How did Jiren even reach to that point. How long was and who was he training with?

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

@Ethan Kellerman So what Whis says makes sense...from a certain point of view. Lol

[@nullpoint3346]

It's about the form, not the power level. Think about the difference between kaioken and Super Saiyan, the highest kaioken can go (that we know of) is 20*n, where as SSj1 as a base 50*, SSj2 100* and SSj3 is 200. Now imagine you had to train to get that level of power, no multiplicative increase, just gradual. Edit for spacing. How about just a straight equation? No progress set. 0*n =0, 1^n =1 Gradual progress. X+1perY=Z Y is a rate, not simple addition.

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

@@nullpoint3346 That makes sense yes, however the question stems from Whis stating a fact, only for Jiren to show up later and contradict it. Justifying it after the fact, doesnt change the hilarity of it.

[@darkknight097]

1 million years worth of hellish living conditions. Hm, kinda sounds like how doomsday was created. He was killed over and over and until he became the ultimate killing machine.

[@StupidWeb]

daniel stubblefield that’s literally what I thought of

[@albedo5455]

The evolutionary function was actually based on Doomsday's backstory.

[@cosmicmaster1006]

You know what else it sounds like... It sounds like 2020

[@OmniCode786]

Now add 1 m more🥶🥶

[@christianbryan6961]

So by that logic then, if the Ultimatrix had Kryptonian DNA, Ben could transform into Superman, and then ultimate Superman would be Doomsday

[@sauviknandi504]

"if an alien used ominitrix to transform in human he'll basically be batman" laughed a lot😂😂😂

[@kcazzzzz]

he needs the ultimatrix to turn to batman

[@sauviknandi504]

@@kcazzzzz dude with ultimarix he'll not stay homo sepian he'll be a evolved form as much as i know bruce is a homo sepian

[@ericwalsh2954]

Tbh it would be more like captain America or black panter

[@poochyenajones1362]

@@ericwalsh2954 That whould be even better.

[@ericwalsh2954]

@@poochyenajones1362 yeah I think it would be more like captain America(if where talking comic cap since in the movies it seems the super solider serum and the heart shaped herb are pretty much the same) since black painter has been shown to be able to see into the future(it was explained as his senses picking up on danger before it could happen but still) while cap is just the perfect human

[@DrewsGames809]

1million years worth of zenkai boosts... That sounds so broken.

[@benjaminkennedy5057]

ShiloAlibi limit to zenkai boosts

[@mangmango4808]

@@benjaminkennedy5057 Not entirely because the TOP arc contradicts the Goku black arc. Like Goku a d Vegeta got zenkai in the TOP.

[@charleshardesty1828]

Saiyans also learn the moves that almost kill them (aka moves that defeat them & cause the zenkai boosts) so if the Omnitrix used different abilities each time, then that's even more broken. It's like broken squared. Lol

[@charleshardesty1828]

@JoGeJo I mean the Saiyan would learn whatever moves the Omnitrix simulated during his DNA's 'forced evolution' to create the Ultimate Saiyan Form.

[@Flotsome]

@@mangmango4808 When did Goku and Vegeta get Zenkai boosts in TOP? They did get stronger as Ultra Instinct/SSBE but that was more them pushing their limits and figuring out how to exceed their limits.

[@Genra]

There actually was one instance where how the ultimate simulation works was mentioned. In the one episode where the ultimate aliens came sentient in the Ultimatrix, when Ultimate Humungousaur was in the therapy session, he said at birth his mother tried to eat him. So ye... definitely not just people punching Ben in the face for a million years lol

[@mnar.brodcast139]

It’s bens mom punching him in the face to tenderize him

[@CassiusSharp]

Give that it’s likely the Ultimate simulation is everything on the alien’s home planet trying to kill them for one million years

[@dontawilliams8433]

@@CassiusSharpnah it would be more then that, it would be insane predators, way higher gravity, famine and anything that will make them grow in power. And eventually the ultimatrix will find the legendary SS mutation and then make that the base for the saiyans in the simulation before continuing to make life harder and harder

[@theHedgex1]

That's actually pretty interesting to think I know Goku would probably after understanding the situation let him have some DNA. Vegeta is another story

[@rotarysparkgaming4260]

Vegeta cud see it as his noble race being documented or a disgrace that a human has found these powerrs

[@theHedgex1]

@@rotarysparkgaming4260 vegeta would be offended that a human or other was pretending to be of his "noble" race.

[@designerwookiee]

I think it would depend on how Ben approached either of them. For the best results and most comedic interaction, both Vegeta and Goku should be present. I see Vegeta being the first to respond with a simple, "Absolutely not! You can't just become a Saiyan on a whim! A Saiyan is a warrior, through and through!". But before Vegeta finishes talking, Goku interrupts with an enthusiastic, "Heck yea! And once you transform into a Saiyan, I wanna be the first to fight you!" After which, Vegeta gets angry and yells at Goku, "If anyone is going to fight him, it's ME!" -turns to Ben- "And you, boy! Don't you DARE scan this oaf's DNA, he's just a brainless idiot. If you want a PRIME sample of Saiyan DNA, you better scan ME! I will not allow you to disgrace what it means to be Saiyan by using HIS *points angrily at Goku" DNA!" And of course, the Omnitrix scans both of them, annoying Vegeta as he groans over how Goku's DNA probably tainted his perfect sample.

[@dekumighty3634]

Goku so your saying you will get stronger alright I'll sit still here if that 1000000years of training hurts I'll even give you a senzu

[@Dg-gf5el]

They don’t get a choice lol it takes like a second to scan them

[@Cieges]

After watching dragon ball super broly. It’s pretty obvious the omnitrix would choose the legendary super Saiyan as ben’s form since that’s the peak of all peaks

[@isaacjohnson8796]

That's a good point, and considering the 1 million year training aspect there'd be nothing stopping him.

[@TheErolind]

I agree. The omnitrix would turn Ben into a genetic freak saiyan like Broly. If Ben fought Goku it would play out exactly like Broly in the movie, getting stronger as he fights

[@darkvoidswrath958]

Blackarot69 here's a thought, there really isn't a clear cut cap on power levels when a sayaian is born main example being canon broly, so what if the Omnitrix creates a sayian born of the highest possible level and then afterwords simulates the harshest of reality for a million years....

[@RiftMFG]

But if you think about it, with the ultimate form, and therefore 1,000,000 years of training, it might not give him a new transformation, but he would be immensely stronger than legendary super sayian, or any other form

[@joshuaagbettor5610]

That probably wouldn't be possible because of how primal that form is.

[@rajaceratops6222]

“When an alien wears an omnitrix and transforms, he wold turn into batman” LMAO 😂

[@Sevey77]

Rajaceratops maybe Batman was a alien this entire time 😂😂😂

[@JoaoGabriel-et4kq]

From their point of view, batman is an alien.

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

Actually, it's "When an alien wears an Omnitrix and transforms into a *human*, they would pretty much turn into Batman." Emphasis on "human".

[@La8ghost]

That's true

[@clinged2711]

It's just an example of the strongest human, stop making jokes you know you understand.

[@coolbeans3752]

Everyone out here talking about Sayains meanwhile I'm wondering, what the hell would happen if Frieza had 1 million years of training. My god.

[@jeffboy4231]

oh shit you are right. and the transformation wouldn't have the downside of freeza being too full of himself and not "mastering" his forms. lol

[@Randomperson-wo5cu]

Since frieza achieved enough power to rival ssb in 6 months of arguably casual training in 1 million years of active training, frieza could probably kill zeno in an instant as zeno is shown to not be omnipotent and instead is just incredibly strong.

[@MeKaOnyx]

"This isn't even my Ultimate forme"

[@PegasusTenma1]

Holy shit. If Ben scans a frost demon and goes ultimate it’s game over for everyone and everything in existence. Goku isn’t doing jack to him at that point

[@Loldino897]

Well spoiler In the most recent chaper He trained for 10 years thanks to another time chamber then showed up one shot the current enemy turned around and one shot both Ultra ego Vegeta and Uptra Instinct Goku

[@Crystal_959]

Okay. The level of understanding of the Ultimatrix in this video kinda confused me. From what I've heard, the Ultimatrix Runs a simulation of a species in the toughest possible conditions. Their species' evolution(not individual training) is simulated over about a million years(not realtime) as to how they would evolve to cope with their situation. For example, Vaxasaurians(Humungousaur) are already immensely physically strong. It makes sense that, in extremely tough to survive conditions, they evolve armor(the dark blue shell and helmet) as defensive mechanisms. Similarly Arburian Pelarotas(Cannonbolt) are already really powerful defense-wise. So, logically in tougher conditions, their spikes develop as offensive mechanisms. It's how their species would evolve and develop over a million years in the toughest conditions. The end result after the simulated million years of evolution is then stored in the database as that species' ultimate THAT was the nerdiest that I have ever said

[@barrybend7189]

So lets say Gwen with the Ultimatrix( in a bit I'll explain why) scans an Asari from Mass Effect( I don't want to get nightmares for Ben fans) and uses the ultimate feature then the Asari would evolve better control over biotics and maybe prehensile head testicles at mid back length( with maybe some ardaht yackshi tendencies).

[@barrybend7189]

@Ethan Kellerman no Asari have no male. They are all woman hence why I gave the hypothetical of if Gwen had the Ultimatrix.

[@barrybend7189]

@Ethan Kellerman sideways gene transfer/ asexually. Basically their nerve endings act as both biotics ( darkmatter) control and pathways for genetic material. But said genetic material is only used in randomizing the genetics already present instead of completing the embryo like most other races.

[@zettovii1367]

@Ethan Kellerman Except Goku already had the God Ki resting within him, while Vegeta although not at the center of the ritual, was still part of it along with the other sayians of earth. As far as we know, maybe all of them had the potential to unlock God ki after the ritual, but Whis' training simply was necessary to fulfill said potential? I mean, no one besides Goku and Vegeta got that training, while Future Trunks could have gotten it through time travel shenanigans and direct interaction with Vegetas' own God ki. So I do not think that Ben could use the god forms without the rituals, or at the very least, not without interacting with those who got the divine ki. With that said, think it could be very possible for Ben to turn into the Legendary Supersaiyan, since that is a special form of super saiyan only exclusive to a special kind of saiyan who only are born once every thousands of years (it's also green, so it fits Ben's whole motif). The Omnimatrix turning into the best sample of each alien, could just as likely turn Ben into that special saiyan kind, and as things have it, they could match the god forms even without God Ki. Ad the ultimatrix onto that, and Ben might turn into something that looks like a beefed up green SSJ4 (if we are going the Oozaru tail route) but without any of the Legendary SSJ's weaknesses, like never using more power than what the body can handle and retaining their rationality even when unleashing their power to the max.

[@zettovii1367]

@Ethan Kellerman But they all still had interaction with the God Ki in some form, so you can't really say that you can get it from the training *alone.* The training might be the trigger, but it is the interaction with the divine energy that loads the metaphorical gun. Doesn't matter how many times you pull the trigger if it isn't loaded with the right bullet, after all.

[@TheErolind]

I think Ben would become a Saiyan similar to Broly. After the Broly movie, it's safe to say Broly is the pinnacle of Saiyan genetics. If Ben transformed he would be an extremely powerful base form Saiyan. He wouldnt know what a Super Saiyan is but he would have the ability to do it, just like Broly. As Ben fights he would get stronger over time at a rapid rate with an OP Zenkai boost and unlock Super Saiyan in minutes, likely up to Super Saiyan 3. He would have no ki control or fighting experience and would have to learn those things

[@zhoupact8567]

That depends. The watch gives the instincts and such stuff needed for the alien to function at peak. It would be strange, if in 10000 years the watch would not be able to figure out super sayan forms are a thing. And it would most likely could the transformation as an instinctual thing. The fact that just by concentrating energy in once back is enough to go sayan. I just do not see the watch's AI missing that part. And I agree he would probably end up in Broly's direction. But I would not bet money on sayans being unable to evolve vastly more powerful than Broly. Apparently their universe is somewhat weak. But I am sure the ape people would would be fully able to evolve as a spices to become among the top races in all the universes. They seem to almost be destined to become a race of pure gods one day. Trunks even almost forced his way into god form did he not? If he could do it, I would buy that sayans in general could evolve to do so. It would be kinda epic to see how ben would look in his ultimat super god sayan super omni sayan form.

[@ftsvectors2164]

Blackarot69 Broly is more of a mutation, and less of good genes. If you look at peak genes without mutations, Vegeta is about what you would get since he's the strongest Saiyan to have been born.

[@zhoupact8567]

.... Is changes in genes not all about small mutations though? Based on the changes to the aliens of Ben10, I would say mutation is the perfect word for it. Mutation and adaptation.

[@ftsvectors2164]

Caim Pact Mutations is when a new completely new gene or genes enters the gene pool. What happens during creation is more about maintaining or combining genes. So the Omnitrix would have to make that new gene, which it shouldn't, since what it does is scan a beings current genes and makes the alien the healthiest, strongest, and most versatile it can be based on those genes that are present. Admittedly, if Ben scanned Broly, he probably would gain that monstrous strength, but we're looking at what would happen if Ben scanned the average Saiyan, he would get something like Vegeta.

[@zhoupact8567]

My impression is still that a mutation is simply a change in a gene. It do not really have to create something new. Even just a small change that makes a gene inactive would count as a mutation from my impression. For example in the case of albinism. Or when someone got webbed toes or fingers. Its not a new gene but rather a mutation in the existing once. Some stuff that did not activate or did activate abnormally. There is no magical sudden appearance of new genes is there? If you got your dna damaged by radiation, or from some gas. That could result in what we would call a mutation, as your genetic information has become a bit different. But it is still basically just the same old dna, it just got some burns now so not all parts work the same as before. I do admit though, that I have not really studied mutations. But I do feel that google seem to support my understanding. :p After all, its just a bunch of advancements and evolution of our genetics that have taken those sea living creatures all the way to us humans. >.> Naturally that took a lot more than 10.000 years but still. I do not see how the change from normal sayan to what Broly is, would not fall within this. If the omnitrix did scan goku, or just an average sayan. You may no longer want to call what Ben transfoms into a sayan at all. Similar to how you would not call whatever ancestor both we and gorillas evolved from a human.

[@zantetsu75]

Regarding the tail, just judging by the way you said the Omnitrix works, whether he get's a tail or not is entirely dependent on who he get's his DNA from. Explained to maximum simplicity, if he get's DNA from a Universe 7 Saiyan, he becomes a Universe 7 Saiyan, if he get's Universe 6 DNA, he becomes a Universe 6 Saiyan. Also, a counterargument regarding what kind of Saiyan Ben would get: If the Omnitrix were to obtain DNA from what is deemed to be the pinnacle of Saiyan DNA, it WOULDN'T emulate Goku. This is simply because, Goku hasn't been, and never was (genetically) a paragon of the Saiyan race to any respect. While Goku did eventually become the strongest Saiyan to ever live, that wasn't something that his Biology said he should have been capable of. The only reason he became what he was was due to very special, specific circumstances that Goku had that allowed for him to constantly challenge and overcome his biological limits, Super Saiyan 3 being a prime example, as he even specifically said himself he would not have achieved that form had he NOT been dead while doing it. Strictly speaking, the DNA Omnitrix would emulate would most likely be Vegeta, or Broly (if you go by Movie cannon), which means that his strength plateaus and peaks would work completely differently than you had originally postulated. I dare say that it actually stands to reason that, if Vegeta/Broly, went through all of the same things in exactly the same ways as Goku did, they would probably be significantly stronger than him in the present. The only reason Vegeta is CURRENTLY Goku's lesser, is because of that difference in upbringing. With that being said, just based solely on Saiyan biology, the best "Ultimate" would probably be able to do for Ben is either Super Saiyan 3 or 4 (regardless of cannon) because those forms are ALREADY outliers in terms of the way that Saiyan biology works. I will concede that the God forms are indeed possible, but given the circumstance of how Goku/Vegeta obtained it, I find it unlikely. The only mortals in Universe 7 that knew about Super Saiyan God barring people from the distant, distant past were really old Namekians, so I'd find it a bit of a stretch that the Ultimatrix could pick up information about the Saiyans that not even the Saiyans themselves had.

[@JyujinPlus]

It is true that Goku isn’t the best in terms of genes (I think that honor goes to Goten or Trunks), Goku is probably the best model we have for what the Ultimatrix’s ‘training’ would do to a Saiyan. So we’d set Ben’s base power to what someone like Trunks has at the age of 16, and then discuss Goku when it came to the ultimatrix

[@clashingswordsproductions]

To expand on you a little bit Ben having a tail in Saiyan form depends specifically who he'd get the DNA from. Goku,Vegeta,and Gohan have the tail gene,tails being a recessive trait among saiyans. If he got it from Goten and Trunks,he wouldnt have a tail. Same if he got it from any universe 6 saiyan. As far as how powerful the "pinnacle" saiyan would be,the strongest natural Saiyan is Broly,however Broly seems to have a genetic mutation that causes his super saiyan ki to behave differently and gives him a massive power buff. But if we're talking about the prime example of a saiyan,base form Broly would be a good measuring stick for power I think As far as Ultimate goes,I truly see 2 outcomes. 1 would be Legendary Super Saiyan. Your power increases the more you fight,perfect for a saiyan. The destructive capabilities,not to mention the strength itself. On the other hand is Super Saiyan 4 which I feel is the correct answer. Super Saiyan 4 is achieved by combining super saiyan and great ape,two uniquely saiyan things,into one powerful form,and it is the pinnacle of what a saiyan can achieve without God ki. So super saiyan 4 is probably the bet. However to account for the million years thing itd be a super saiyan 4 with absolutely broken scaling.

[@omechron]

I can't believe you left out the most important question: What would he call the new form? Edit: Okay, I've given it some thought, and I think he'd call it Master Ki. It has a pun, which he likes, and it reflects their martial arts connection.

[@christianhenry4173]

I say his Saiyan form would be called "War Zone" that sounds like an accurate Ben 10 name for a Saiyan.

[@sparrowbluefire5995]

Kuro actually made a Saiyan Form for 5YL, and he called it "MonKi". It's on the official 5YL Wiki.

[@austinmccormick8952]

Or, Go-Green.

[@hainguyn948]

He would call it something about hair because when Saiyan change form their hair grow

[@brokensurge2143]

But now his name was Monki

[@davidhamilton1632]

Don't forget his ominitrix uses the best DNA from every alien species meaning he could end up like caulifla(at the minimum)or even broly(at the most)

[@AsianIdiots323]

If he isn't able to mentally control those forms then he might just explode from the sheer power output from those two.

[@epion660]

@@AsianIdiots323 The omnitrix gives him all the instincts and knowledge to be able to use him forms.

[@AsianIdiots323]

@@epion660 Problem is, there's no knowledge that allows you to control those forms. Broly's form in particular is pretty much berserk form; no amount of instincts or knowledge would let you stay in control with it.

[@epion660]

@@AsianIdiots323 I haven't personally watched much dragonball, but that sounds quite a bit like Rath. Would those to be similar?

[@jeffboy4231]

@@AsianIdiots323 i mean, ben could maybe try to train it? goku would probably help him ngl.

[@AceHero]

Sometimes I feel as though you work with Man of Action. I mean I know my more than fair share of facts about Ben 10 but you’ve used Ben 10 in ways people haven’t thought of and that’s awesome keep up the great work man!

[@rzeczpospolita5948]

He uses Ben 10 lore as Ben his aliens

[@wumzum837]

You actually made me like Ben 10 SOMUCH MORE now. i watched the first and second show quite a bit, but didn't touch it afterwards, it seemed super convoluted. but you've made a lot of things make sense in your video series.

[@Anthony-pm5wu]

5:27 Did just say... STANIMA

[@bryanpleitez3162]

Yes! Everytime! But we'll look beyond that

[@mightysword6884]

its not an English class lesson godamnit

[@omegadeadpool4987]

Scan a celestial from Marvel ( which would have a peak of the celestial OAA meaning highly Multiverse level) and hit him with a ultimate form possible making him maybe Hyperversal

[@auracuba1028]

“Could he transform into a super saiyan?” *Ultra instinct on the thumbnail.*

[@IamaDinosaur]

Ben is a pimp.

[@SonGoku-bn5di]

The ultra instinct technique has nothing to do with Sayains

[@blauwbeer556]

@@SonGoku-bn5di could you call it a technique?

[@shawnsouth327]

blauw beer technique and transformation

[@blauwbeer556]

@@shawnsouth327 oh, ok then

[@SheltonPiresPires165]

"super saiyan is triggered by an emotional state" lol unless your name is Goten, Trunks (kid) and Caulifla.

[@kuroz1338]

Shelton Pires Pires, Actually both goten and trunks first gotten super saiyan because of anger if you remember when gohan ask how goten became a super saiyan during the beginning of majin buu saga and trunks apparently during his training with vegeta....

[@munjee2]

Or for all we really know vegetta

[@jsange]

Shelton Pires Pires Da felin in ur bak maks u suprsayin gg

[@phredbookley183]

The children are half human or quarter human. It would be interesting to see their progression after a million years.

[@ultraviolenceoverkiller6026]

The Ink Tank: Can Ben Transform Into A Super Saiyan? Also The Ink Tank: **Creates a Saiyan Alien And Puts It In 5 Years Later**

[@sevensevenseven9351]

When did he put a Sayian in 5YL

[@ultraviolenceoverkiller6026]

bebe yoda, before he put him in 5YL, The Ink Tank created The Saiyan in 2016, he named it MonKi, In 2017 The Ink Tank redesigned, he will appear in the next chapter, but he is in The 5YL Wiki

[@TheTsugnawmi2010]

Another factor you've left out is, how many zenkai power boosts would this Ultimate Saiyan have gone through in those million years? Each one would exponentially increase its power. This is VERY important because the simulation is nothing but non-stop WAR - which for a saiyan (a battle-centred species) is IDEAL conditions!

[@stickguy6673]

Imagine non-stop war On a planet with 100,000,000x earth's gravity and what they're fighting are the giant gorrilla transformations with 100,000,000x power.

[@RamielEdits]

Or just zenkai abuse (looking at you vegeta in the freiza arc!)

[@RamielEdits]

@@stickguy6673 how about all of them giving each other the power to go god and all of them go all out in god form?

[@clinttalisic4494]

Macent Zenkai boosts only happen when you come back from a near death experience

[@yigitcanozmen9531]

@@clinttalisic4494 well im pretty sure in a million years of non stop war you are gonna come close to death A LOT

[@ANimouz]

Saiyans are known for the combat prowess, ability to overcome anything, love for fighting, adaptability to any short of environment or enemy and neverending increase in power. If you stretch that to 1mil years on perfect saiyan speciment... aka a saiyan scientist, with berserker DNA, combat smarts of Vegeta, talent of Goku and limitless potential of Gohan.... forget about Alien X. That saiyan would be literally an omnipotent god. In the manga saiyans can even undergo training of the Kais to become kais themselves as well as GoDs. In essence they can be anything. Holy fucking shit, this sounds op.

[@zargon9723]

ultimate saiyan would definitely be the legendary saiyen ... BROLY

[@Omega_Kazuya]

AHEM You Mean Legendary Saiyan?

[@SSL_2004]

I know I'm late, but actually, you don't need the ritual to turn into a Super Saiyan God. Vegeta was able to simply by training, the ritual is just a shortcut. Therefore, Ben could in fact reach God, Blue, and maybe even beyond. As well as Ultra Instinct, (Not like he needs it given the Omnitrix's fail safes.) (Additionally, Goku is actually one of the weakest examples of the Saiyan race on base level. Being a low class warrior. The reason he becomes so powerful is because he trains a lot, but if someone like Broly, who is one of if not THE peak of the Saiyan race, had the exact same level of training, he would absolutely demolish Goku)

[@jimmy7249]

Someone actually pay attention to Dragon Ball Super

[@mystery6980]

Had whis to train him

[@olp3850]

Superlate too but vegeta only got super syain god after Whis(a ducking angel) trained him. So unless sayien Ben gets trained by an angel or a god or whatever. He's not getting god forms

[@ssbashalot7324]

Broly isn’t the peak

[@coolskeleton9560]

Ultra Instinct isn't really a form but like a mindset, basically flow state where you're so focused on your task that you almost robotic and doing it perfectly. So that's something ben has to learn on his own and probably even do it with his aliens which would be pretty cool

[@benpage11]

Before anyone says “I CANT WAIT TO SEE SETH DEBUNKS THIS” he helped make this video. Yeahhhhhh

[@Arkdragonman]

Gamer Ben why would he debunk this it isn’t a exaggeration like his other video where he said Ben could beat anyone and yeah he said PROBABLY beat anyone but sets the video up as if it’s a definite win no mater what even tho there are characters that can just erase the watch from existence then kill him

[@TheInkTank]

Yes, I say words wrong. I apologize.

[@novelbread9734]

wait aliens is like a term for creatures in space which means ben could possibly scan normal creature on earth and turn its them this also means he could scan any living thing witch means things like kong or godzilla and if it only counts for space than SPACE GODZILLA

[@RealRoboKnight]

Allen Ruano right, because aliens are races from different planets

[@ashtonbrown1393]

kuro vegeta did not need the ritual for super saiyan blue, and in the manga vegeta also got super saiyan god without the ritual

[@javrajsra3634]

Kuro The Artist what have you gotten yourself into everybody is going to rage but I stand by you

[@HypArtz002]

I hope that we can have a fun discussion rather than a bad argument

[@masterofdisguise1112]

And if not hey Alien X XD

[@AtomicOwl]

Master Of Disguise ik right

[@CrimsonKnightmare1]

Sounds like gay headcannon

[@sladikk]

More like Alien XD

[@zeroyaksha2959]

CrimsonKnightmare He used facts and even Seth the programmer helped in this

[@ashtonbrown1393]

kuro vegeta did not need the ritual for super saiyan blue, and in the manga vegeta also got super saiyan god without the ritual

[@danielcorrea3285]

Ben would be a legendary SSJ since that is the pinnacle of the saiyan race

[@phantomglitch6922]

True Then Throw In The Ultimate Evolution LSSJ4 1,000,000 Years Worth Of Zenkis And Constant Power Rise (Legendary Buff) Not Even Jirin Will Be Able To Win

[@dereklouther9372]

Lssj is canon and apparently equal to ssj blue which is kinda cool

[@arthurcosta1657]

@@phantomglitch6922 its a genetic training not the Power level whould not rise

[@phantomglitch6922]

@@arthurcosta1657 Do You Not Know How LSSJ Works?

[@arthurcosta1657]

@@phantomglitch6922 yes i know

[@Jam13B1B1]

I'd say that ultimate Saiyan would be SSJ4. That's the pinicale of a saiyan's abilities without the interference of god's.

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

im down with that. i like the whole god ki aspect, but i miss tails, oozaru and ssj 4

[@itsDjjayyArt]

@@Chrono_Mitsurugi facts

[@hevillepeacefoot8647]

Connor Leggett god is, it belongs to the gods

[@MemesToa]

Preach, brother!

[@chrishansen8119]

Yes but that requires a tail, and we dont know if saiyans in Ben's universe have tails or not

[@gigabyteguru2452]

There is a bit of a flaw with the logic here. First, for the "pinnacle of the race" Goku is a very poor example, especially if we are using a 16 year old Goku, not the 24 year old Goku who fought Freiza. The actual pinnacle at this point would probably be either a high class warrior like a 16 year old Vegeta, or, considerably more terrifyingly, someone like Broly, who as a baby was more than three times stronger than Goku, Piccolo, and Raditz put together at the time of their fight. Next, the omnitrix probably couldn't save a SSJ form, because it operates on DNA, and the SSJ form does not alter the DNA of the user. Thus he would have to manually transform each time. Next, the level of Ki control necessary to force a Super Saiyan transformation without the emotional trigger is beyond even Goku and Vegeta, both of whom had trained all their lives. Not to mention, even ruling out Goku due to his childhood amnesia, it is shown through Goten that flight is a learned technique, which implies all ki techniques are learned by Saiyans, just like with humans (also supported by the fact that every soldier in the Freiza Force could also fly). Thus the idea that Ben would have Ki powers based on instinct is most likely incorrect. What he would get for certain would be the freakish adaptability of the Saiyans, and the Zenkai (near-death) Boost. And as for the U6 Saiyans, Ben could probably have both a tailed and non-tailed form as it is stated that they followed different evolutionary paths and thus would have different, albeit very similar DNA. On to the Ultimatrix, as again, Ki is not a Saiyan Evolutionary trait, it is unlikely that he would actually unlock any special techniques, instead, it seems more likely that he would gain ludicrous amounts of Ki due to the Saiyan's truly absurd vitality, and that his form would most closely resemble either some form of super saiyan four, or Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan form, as both of these are genetic, and not learned transformations. He might get SSJG but never Blue, as that is a technique derived entirely from ki control. Funny enough though, after 1,000,000 years of continuous evolution in the most hostile environment that the Ultimatrix can simulate, Ultra Instinct might actually come very naturally to Saiyan Ben, as one of the most formidable parts of a Saiyan warrior is their natural sense for combat, and Ultra Instinct is the pinnacle of that. Also we know for fact now that Goku is 44, so your guess-timation was pretty good! Anyway thats just one Dragon Ball fan's take on the issue. My knowlege of Ben 10 is pretty basic, but I did my best.

[@musicman3825]

"it is shown through Goten that flight is a learned technique, which implies all ki techniques are learned by Saiyans, just like with humans (also supported by the fact that every soldier in the Freiza Force could also fly). Thus the idea that Ben would have Ki powers based on instinct is most likely incorrect." what about Cell though? He had everyone's techniques and he didn't train with any of them. "And as for the U6 Saiyans, Ben could probably have both a tailed and non-tailed form as it is stated that they followed different evolutionary paths and thus would have different, albeit very similar DNA." there actually is a precedent for that kind of thing. The Upchuck race has two subraces and they each have an entry in the omnitrix, so it could have both types of saiyans as their own entries.

[@sbusisomanqele4318]

@@musicman3825 cell has their knowledge and intellect I'm pretty sure He's super smart getting it from piccolo

[@jingking7377]

Super saiyan four isnt cannon so Ben wouldn't be able to go ssj4 so that statement is out And to go super saiyan God you would need ki control it isnt like it is not like since u a saiyan you can automatically go ssjg But ben can go great ape tho If ben gets to become a saiyan ben would only be able to ape form He cannot get any ki moves he cannot fly or anything

[@jingking7377]

And UI is a technique ben cannot go ui since he became a saiyan

[@musicman3825]

@@jingking7377 "Ben wouldn't be able to go ssj4 so that statement is out" he specifically stated that Ben would only be able to go SSJ4 if you consider that canon. you don't think it's canon, so he can't do it to you. But if someone does consider it canon then it would factor into the equation. "He cannot get any ki moves he cannot fly or anything" even baby saiyans can fly. In DBS there's a scene of Pan flying even though she's a toddler, so flight and ki control do come with the package.

[@jjjbeastfd]

so ben would be dragon ball super broly.... Since DBS Broly has been fight for all his life and his base form can over power god ki and match blue, so imagine him using the ultimate version of a saiyan that has been fighting for years, busted! Super saiyan is a perk.

[@ThanatosZero]

Using Broly's DNA sample for a 1 million year simulation might bring forth another Doomsday.

[@thatguy-ly9cn]

legendary supersaiyan would be ultimate tough

[@DoubleBoost23]

If he scanned Broly,he could become a C-Type Super Saiyan,but that's a rare mutation. Maybe that would be the Ultimate form for any Saiyan DNA in the Ultimatrix(Or Super Saiyan 4 since Godly Ki wouldn't be in the simulation),but it wouldn't be his base Saiyan form. Wait,no,Ultimate Saiyan would probably be C-Type Super Saiyan 4.

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

@@DoubleBoost23 That~ would be terrifying.

[@_Tzer]

well depends if brolys factor is different enough it could be considered its own transformation i.e murk and turk

[@thefifthhorseman2363]

Imagine if Goku trained for a million years. For one... he'd probably love it. 😂

[@cottonfloss7951]

Excited for fallen gods edit: also gravittack tho "this sorta like a dump tank"

[@joetrong1]

Kuro that artist explains things better than some other poeple (*cough death battle cough*)

[@NovaBugDrayosix]

Then again, death battle isn't exactly a hi bar >_>, comparing kuro to death battle at all is, in my opinion, just insulting to kuro.

[@NovaBugDrayosix]

Superman is not limitless, shush. not even cosmic armor superman is limitless, there are still beings above him

[@maxdrags3115]

bugboy1014 So what if there are beings above him? He is clearly limitless kid.

[@NovaBugDrayosix]

limitless implies undefeatable, which i am simply stating isn't the case. He can and has been defeated numerous times by numerous foes.

[@andrews.7414]

maxdrags3 well he can die from kryptonite and magic, so the limitless thing is not really true.

[@laurivirtanen8636]

Even though the training is practically genetical using the humangosaur expample it recreates a vexasaurian from terradino pressures it for a million years then scans the evolution then copies this evolved vexasaurians dna. So its not mutation its evolution.

[@MLGLogy]

@@spiralinguniverse8159 Um wut?

[@RTSErnie]

@@spiralinguniverse8159 dumb meditate and practice breathing yes AURA COLOERS AND MINDLESS JIBBER JABBER NO!

[@samuelezichella4098]

If we're talking about mutation and simulation, I think that a good example of what an ultimate Sayan could be is Broly. Since his first appearance, they stated that his abnormally high power level was due to a genetic mutation. If we apply that, to the fact that the Omnitrix turns its user into the peek of a species, it's safe to assume that ultimate Sayan Ben, could potentially be the equivalent of a Broly who actually trained like Goku (at least in terms of intensity). Now, i know that Broly's mutation is very different from the ultimate mutation, but I still think is a great starting point, mainly because it is within the potential of the Sayans as a species. And all of this without taking into account the famous zenkai boost, which increases the power of a Sayan every time he's severely injured. So, taking that into account, an ultimate Sayan could also be a warrior who's zenkai actually evolved to the point where it increases not only the user's strength, but also their technique, just like Broly. And this is STILL, without talking about different kinds of ki. Potentially, we could have the equivalent of a Super Sayan Blue Broly. What do you think?

[@spidertron575]

You sir just got an new subscriber

[@tba6]

Man I really wish I had a omnitrix

[@autozenkai8349]

me2same

[@Fusrodog]

It has to be preloaded with other aliens tho

[@austinkuchar7125]

True

[@ikitakunaihito4649]

@Yung Katt and ultimate it That looks like aliens then 😂😂😂

[@ssjsmith8879]

You'll have fun, REAL aliens are SCARY as F***! ^_^

[@darthshadow6836]

This was fun, and yes please if you can do a "If Ben transformed into a Kryptonian" that would be awesome.

[@andrewmirror4611]

So. If Sayans look so much like human would Sayan Ben's face be Ben's face or Goku's face (given his DNA sample was used) or would it be the mix of two, like their child? Oh, God. I just shipped Ben 10 with Goku

[@rotarysparkgaming4260]

Hating Mirror probably just Ben with spiky hair and sharp eyes

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

@@rotarysparkgaming4260 just ultimate ben, then?

[@chriswentz5197]

Not a Child,But a clone that has both of their dna

[@tylerroads3824]

Aye you should make a video discussing what some ultimate aliens we haven't seen would be like (Brainstorm, Upgrade, The Worst, Alien X) it could be interesting

[@stevenmartinez2733]

Tyler Roads Alien X OP enough

[@deandrej674]

Tyler Roads upgrade wouldn't need an ultimate since he just basically merge into things to make them more powerful

[@jay_sun2088]

Kuro!!! Thanks for making ben 10 relevant.

[@FREERYU100]

The show deserves more seasons like Ultimate Alien

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

Yes

[@hassankhalid8917]

Uuuh the show's still bad and not as popular as DB the first Ben 10 series was good until they make Ben 10 too OP.They go out to space and become a some kind of ranger to protect the space hate it after that.I don't know but Overpowered =/= Popular/Relevant

[@hassankhalid8917]

Since when i compare about the quality of the show with popularity?I was talking about how Ben 10 won't be relevant even if he is STRONGER than Goku that's all OP character =/= getting relevant.I'm not trying to say that DB is awesome but still it's better in it's own way. But yeah i do say that i hate how Ben 10 series goes compared to DB so maybe you get confused on that point.Sorry then. Wait why DB is not the right verse to compare?Are you saying it's better?Well that's kinda duh

[@hassankhalid8917]

Yes that's what i'm talking about of course.If it's about popularity why would i talk about VS debates only lol otherwise you understand my point.

[@dek5775]

The alien wont transform into batman He will transform into saitama for sure

[@fulanodominicano]

Saitama isn't smart....

[@ShakDaGoat]

fulanodominicano he’s strong though

[@duyhungtran3701]

damn true But Saitama is the Ultimate Human And for Omnitrix, it's just go for Batman, and if Batman train for unstop 1 million years, it will be Saitama

[@tinasmith1382]

Star level at best

[@JKBRO-js5yo]

@Eee The Edit have you ever read a comic book?

[@seriousspikesam7770]

Ben 10 would surpass his limits and become infinitely stronger every time. But hey, that's just a theory.

[@majorknight859]

A cartoon theory....aaaaand cut This has matpatt written all over it 😅

[@IamNeloAngelo]

His learning curve is insane.

[@elijahkambu6653]

Goku u better watch your tail

[@mafelfanai]

"All the times Goku spent sleeping, eating goofing around or dead" That had me dead😂😂

[@alexeigonzaga5108]

I think Ben and Goku will get along because they both fool around all the time.

[@tigersebel]

@KONO DIO DA!! and knowing goku he would likely make ben broke with amount goku eats. this will result in them fighting

[@arzej4729]

Your'e right

[@RiceCubeTech]

Rian 2132 also he could turn into alien x and will new food into existence

[@guiltyboi2203]

Like Kuro The Artist says "But hey, Alien X!"

[@srnova9486]

I don't get it is that a meme?

[@DylanGarcia1619]

Sava Roksic Watch “Why Ben 10 Can Beat Superman, Goku, and Pretty Much ANYONE”.

[@randombionicles9358]

If Ben 10 Ultimatrix when he scan Goku if he turned into a ultimate Goku what he be super saiyan blue or Super Saiyan God

[@OrangeColt]

What about ultimate alien x?

[@ginger._.boi_]

I FOUND A WAY TO BE A SUPER SAYIAN TIME TO CREATE THE OMITRIX

[@bowl959]

Glitch Zone Discord shhh let him have his moment

[@maskedredstonerproz]

sorry to ruin it for you , but you still need the DNA , plus it's not possible to create the Omnitrix irl

[@ginger._.boi_]

Yall know what a joke is right 😂

[@maskedredstonerproz]

@@ginger._.boi_ we do , we just didn't recognize one as quickly as we should have

[@MrEditorBen]

I didn’t know that’s how the Ultimatrix worked. That’s sick! Was that ever explained in the show? No wonder the Ultimate aliens went rogue. Having to train for a million years straight would drive me to madness as well

[@MekhiTheOne]

Of course it was explained in the show

[@stephanieoconnor3603]

Imagine ultimate freeza race it only took 4 month to catch up with blue imagine 1 million years

[@OmegaMystiQ]

I believe freeza was a special case as his father was an avid warrior and he never came close to that level of power

[@ngozibridgeman2384]

@@OmegaMystiQ freeza and his dad were mutants born with great power.

[@OmegaMystiQ]

@@ngozibridgeman2384 so is there a specific species they mutated from or are they unique?

[@mxwalii]

Uhhh... I think that was just some plot hole or undeveloped meaning for frieza to go on par with blue goku

[@OmegaMystiQ]

@@mxwalii oof

[@pizzavictory113]

I wonder if Ben could Scan majin buu And become a majin

[@idk-iw9kb]

@Ethan Kellerman also remove the evil personality from Ben majin I'm only calling him that cus I can't think of a good name anyways the Omnitrix would remove the evil personality from Ben majin and Ben can control it

[@ssjsmith8879]

Majinn buu is a "Magic Based" creature and is therefore not really "alive". He therefore wouldn't have any DNA for the omnitrix to scan. Ben wouldn't be able to transform into him.

[@good8619]

@@ssjsmith8879 I dont think he would need to, if Ben just scans Frieza he would become the most busted thing ever. With 4 MONTHS of training, Frieza went from somewhere around Star lvl to rivaling SSB, which can easily destroy entire Universes. Now imagine Frieza, but with 1000000 years of training.

[@chriswentz5197]

@@idk-iw9kb The name would be Candy Demon,Since Buu race been known for their love of Candy,And Demon because Buu is a Demon

[@chriswentz5197]

@@ssjsmith8879 Buu has DNA,since it can Reproduce like in DBO,And Multiply

[@ADiretoria100]

3 years later, he transforms into a Saiyan in the most epic way

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Fuck yeah that entrance was HYPE

[@benkelemete854]

Make a video about all of Ben's Aliens that didn't appear in the show like Squidstricktor and Plantapocolypse

[@fresh10]

Ben Kelemete where do you find those aliens at?

[@jvbon646]

Squidstrictor and Rocks are canon, Plantapocalypse, Gravitesla and Bob The Blob are non-canon

[@benkelemete854]

Oh ok sorry I didn't know

[@randombionicles9358]

What if Ben 10 still have the Ultimatrix when scan Goku and hit the Ultimatrix would he turn into Super Saiyan blue

[@gaaraofthedesert801]

You forgot about the Biomnitrix. Ben 10,000 could fuse Saiyan DNA with any of his aliens, making a new form, and then tack on the Saiyan forms on top of that. SSJ3/4/Berserk/Rage Alien X? OP as hell. And alternate future Ben 10,000 could use Saiyan powers without the need to even transform via his Ultimate Ben form.

[@HingleBingle]

gaaraofthedesert801 true but remember the fusions split the DNA So if Ben were to fuse a Saiyan with Alien X it would be 50% Celestialsapien 50% Saiyen

[@toothtooth1472]

SUPER ALIEN X!!! Could eat your home out and kill your universe

[@andresmarrero8666]

Let's save that for another video.

[@TheChadChamp]

Peaceful Devil Under what basis are you making this claim

[@MrSandmanTBB]

Why do you need anything more than celestapien? You can't have more power than already limitless power so what's even the point at that point?

[@Purgosmusic]

Could you imagine Alien X going super sayan then going ulimate that would be WAY TOO OP.

[@juicemanjimbo]

That wouldnt make sense. Alien X is already omnipotent, so giving Alien X a super saiyan transformation would do nothing since Alien X is already all powerful and cannot get more power. Also there can never be an ulitmate Alien X because again, Alien X is too power to have any evolutions made

[@shadman3984]

Lmao that’s like saying “imagine if god could become a super Sayan”

[@Az.ntz407]

Feel GoodTM they did say they were going to release and ultimate alien x but decided not too as Ben would have no use for at as alien x is already more powerful than anything Ben would ever face so basically your right

[@UnfamiliarIntimacy]

Feel GoodTM Alien X is not all powerful. If he was then he wouldn't be part of a entire species that could manhandle each other. He could just wish the rest of them out of existence.

[@UnfamiliarIntimacy]

Johnny Sins Even if he is that doesn't make him omnipotent.

[@andrewrenolds1063]

Funny thing, the show actually implies through an offhand comment that the ultimate alien conditions aren't just them living in a desert or being punched for all those years; it implies that every single moment of their life has to be a living hell in some way, because in the episode where the ultimate aliens rebel (The Ultimate Sacrifice), the sentient version of Ultimate Humungosaur mentions that his mother tried eating him before he hatched. It's just an offhand comment, yes, but it gives quite a bit of insight when you consider these worst possible conditions they're put through for thousands of years.

[@andrewrenolds1063]

“Could he transform into a super saiyan?” Ultra instinct on the thumbnail.

[@jdn2772]

Love the video, I like how you got rid of the old intro, it was cool but this one is so much better

[@MarkoPiroski]

What if Ben scanned a Time Lord race (Dr. Who)?

[@duskyer2391]

Professor Paradox fits that role pretty well actually

[@jacobd5605]

Locke Harvest he'd be David Tennate

[@vindictotentoria8102]

Marko Piroški Technically speaking, he does have a timelord species. Chronosapien*

[@kaiju9671]

Snoi Med isn't eon an alternate version of Ben

[@user-vs6oe8fl3m]

He would transform into a Tardis.

[@SilverJ17]

But hey, Ultra Instinct Alien X.

[@scumlxve6742]

Ha!

[@RealRoboKnight]

Citizen Nappa OP!!!

[@zevrielledolom4146]

but hey ultra instinct saitma bitch

[@syrianiac]

X Man but hey, ultra instinct zeno

[@fbi534]

Citizen Nappa but hey he wouldnt learn it

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

if there was a crossover between Ben 10 and dragon ball then I would want it to play like this: Alien X refuses to fix the universe when it was destroyed and instead sends teenager Ben to start a new life in the world of dragon ball. Ben finds himself if a forest and he starts walking, he doesn't know where to and he doesn't really care, after about an hour he hears something, a vehicle of some kind, he sees some weird car with a blue haired girl around his age there and she tells him everything about her search. he joins her and they tell each other their names, apparently her name is bulma an she wants to find these balls to wish for a boyfriend, which Ben calls out for how she wouldn't need the wish because from what she told him she is rich and seems to be social enough to find her own boyfriend. bulma asks Ben what he would wish for but before he manages to tell her that he wants to revive everyone he loved she hits a kid with spiky black hair and a hairy tail. sounds like a good way to start the story?

[@phillloveschips2979]

Thank you for all of your Ben 10 Projects :D

[@Grant_Scarboro]

You should make Tracing the Border episodes like this one for the following species: * Inkling and Octoling (Splatoon) * Kirby * Helix's Species (ARMS) * Necrozma (Pokemon) * Mewtwo (Pokemon)

[@strifegod6088]

Just imagine this dude scanning the grand priest or Zeno 😂

[@sorryfr]

Lxrd Kami the grand priest and zeno are obviously over 4th deminsonal and Ben can't even comprehend 4th deminsonal which is what goku is, so the answer is he wouldn't

[@Jimsock3y3]

Lxrd Kami he's already stronger than both

[@draxxedecay3079]

If not hey Alien X.

[@hyejoohye]

The Raging Demon how can you say that without seeing their full power lmao. You gotta wait before you start comparing a damn cartoon with an anime

[@draxxedecay3079]

Batsmack we've had this discussion. Them being stronger means that Ben 10 will be EVEN stronger xD

[@alexrhinehart9604]

I just realized. Ben could tutninto echo echo, create 2 clones, turn back, turn one into a saying, the other into gravatack, and simulate a high gravity chamber by himself.

[@RandomTubexX]

I Love Your Theories ❤️

[@needbike6495]

RandomTube And I love your channel.

[@fourstardragonball9045]

Love your vids

[@scottishcookie8198]

CJ Reasonova wait Ben could become a super sayin god or a super sayin blue (super sayin god super sayin )

[@earthboundfan9446]

RandomTube Ben is goku as ultimate swampfire 8:17

[@laserslasher1924]

RandomTube ..

[@random_gamer9415]

*sees the titel of the video* oh boy that will be a warzone in the comments. *looks at the comments* holy!! there are only nice people who are talkink calmyl. didnt think that woud be possible by such a dangerous subjekt like ben and SSJ. you got a nice community.

[@godtastic4189]

What if ben turned into ultimate alien x

[@JustLunarr]

GG?

[@halomasterrex6525]

God Tastic it’s not possible

[@anton_lezama_art]

He wouldn't be infinite, that's for sure.

[@halomasterrex6525]

Emerald Saygın no I mean it’s not possible for there to be an Ultimate Alien X because because Ultimates is a thing where if a creature was in a nonstop warzone for a 1,000,000 years it would half to evolve into the ultimate to survive but sense Alien X can’t die and is all powerful their bodies won’t evolve because they don’t half to!!

[@Antasma1]

I saw a wiki that they would no longer have to debate to make a decision. I think that was based on a fanfic, but it sounds rational. It's their only flaw.

[@dreadpiraterobertsnumba5]

I imagine he would be like Broly, where he'd be close to super saiyan 3 level without even transforming once. (Plus, him having the green style of Ki would match him pretty perfectly.) I would also think that, while his ultimate evolved saiyan form would never be able to automatically start out controlling God Ki, it would evolve to better control and sooner master more regular Ki. It would also keep evolving to find new ways to increase muscle mass and grow more hair, because that's how I've speculated saiyans store their Ki. So, the Ultimate Ben Saiyan would look like half extra beefy SSJ4, half Ozaru, but would most notably have giant jack-hammer arms (like Armadrillo) with what'd look like feathers on the ends that would actually be fingers that could weave extraodinarily dense Ki strings into super powerful Ki weapons whenever needed.

[@shadowvlogs6097]

Well, Let me say this. Imagine if Ben had The Ability to turn into a Saiyan From when he FIRST found the Omnitrix, and decided to train in that form for as long as he could to make himself stronger. He could learn how to keep his mind clear of Distractions if Gwen helped him in that department, and If Kevin 11 was willing, he could somehow revert back to his normal state, and Absorb Ben's Saiyan Form to acquire a Kind of Fair Saiyan vs Saiyan Battle, pushing Ben beyond his Limits to the End. Fast Forward to Alien Force, Lets say Ben Re-Acquires this Saiyan Form, and when his Cousin or Grandpa Max end up in the Crossfire of a fight, and almost die because of it, Ben could break one limit and Go Super Saiyan Level 1. Moving Forwards to Albedo's Return and The Ultimatrix's First Appearance, Instead of Using a Vaxasaurian/Humongousaur, He uses A Saiyan Form. And lets say, If the Ultimate Function Does Evolve The Saiyan DNA Sample, Ben's Training would have already given him Somewhat Easier Access to Super Saiyan 1, 2 and Possibly SSJ3. If Ben went ultimate in his Saiyan Form, It'd basically look kinda like If There was a Saiyan Supreme Kai that we were unaware of that existed. An Ultimate Saiyan Form is alot to think About, But Not Impossible. I think He could, But in the unwise and Very Bad Choice of words of someone in UAF, Whenever is Ben going to need That much Power?

[@kevingao3106]

Shadow Springtrap so just kill someone off so he can go super saiyan?

[@sentasuS049]

Shadow Springtrap if Ben did have saiyan DNA and went ultimate saiyan I'd have to say he wouldn't obtain God mode from it as a ritual is needed to go God form but would essentially have the ability to go as far as SS8, as in saiyan history there have only been 1-5(don't know actual #) super saiyans and 1 known/unknown Super Saiyan God yet goku and others have not only gone SS1 but SS2 and goku having achieved SS3 where

[@shadowvlogs6097]

Kevin Gao, He Would Have Mastered The Super Saiyan Skill After The First Time Around.

[@hashimkz]

Shadow Springtrap i do think it is possible for ben to become a super saiyan, as it either requires an emotional trigger, or the tingly thing in the back. Any saiyan can achieve it. Regarding the 'ultimate saiyan' form, it seems possible as well. Goku black attained the super saiyan rose form because he was a god/saiyan hybrid. Ben could attain something similar, although i don't think it would be as much of a power increase. The super saiyan form is supposed to be a multiplier after all. Ben would need to train for a few decades, not just with another saiyan (kevin?), but with gods, to reach a high base power level. P.S. i don't think he can achieve ssj2/3 just by training with beings far weaker than him. He would need to train with someone far above him.

[@ExodusPrime1]

sentasuS049 actually SSJ God is acquirable without the Ritual. As somehow Vegeta has blue in the anime so nah all that needs to happen is the absorption’s God Ki somehow

[@dionlewis5630]

Great video kuro! Love it Now hope there isn't any salty aggressive dbz fans

[@stefangarcia1312]

Zub Zero its not a video whos stronger or not. Ben is getting a power boost FROM saiyan dna. Same way how super buu absorbs ppl to get stronger but u get the point lol

[@gamingboii1238]

Zub Zero bruh y woud there be im a huge dbs and dbz fan chill.

[@lowfat_booger1929]

The answer is yes.

[@0bstolerance]

Ben's U. Saiyan form would have VERY different powers than the normal saiyan. Remember that Ben's verse have their own version of KI, and that's Mana, so Saiyan Ben would most likely mana as a substitute for KI. He won't be able to access SSJ and the rest, but he would most likely have the Legendary SsJ form, and his one version of a super saiyan, would be one that has telekinesis, flight, construct projection, Zenkai boost, magic, teleportation, and literally any abilities Gwen has.

[@hainguyn948]

Gwen has time travel lol 😂

[@Chrono_Mitsurugi]

ben 10 the story of a kid who can turn into aliens and punch stuff. but it evolves into this young man who is not only a galactic hero, but a generally nice guy and one hell of a diplomat. someone who actually cares for others despite the way they look. when i think of the saying "walk a mile in their shoes" Ben can actually do that. And thats just awesome.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

Seriously, after the first part of the show, when Ben was 10, the complexity of it was lost on me when I was growing up. It got surprisingly deep at times.

[@izurukamakura237]

I love your videos your giving attention to Ben 10 my favorite hero keep up the good work and I can't wait what you have for the future

[@ghosty918]

Ultimate Alien is not a million years of training, it is a million years of fighting over generations. Considering the greatest source of a Saiyan's strength is their transformations I believe Ultimate Saiyan would either make Super Saiyan more accessible as well as the further transformations or it would incorporate the powers into themselves, combining Oozaru, Super and the other transformations into some kind of Ultimate Super Saiyan. The Ultimate Saiyan would also be more beastial in nature, possibly looking SS4 in their base state (and maybe having that power, with a further beyond state added on), their tail likely losing the weakness and maybe becoming more combat tools like how Raditz used his but moreso. A 5th limb to attack with.

[@tinashetakawira7321]

Technically Ben can get god forms since vegeta did it his way which was basically learning to sense and control god ki with whis but at the same time Ben would have to know what god ki is and how to obtain it

[@greycosmicyt1487]

This is a really hard topic because we're discussing fictional situations for show's that are fictional situations but here are my thoughts. - SSJG can be created with the ritual OR by fighting/sparing/training with gods. Gods also present themselves when situations are universe threatening. Considering that the anime is ongoing then we can assume that even Goku hasn't seen the worst case scenario yet, so the chance of the ultimatrix presenting Saiyan Ben with an opportunity to at least fight a god is inevitable in a million year situation, so that's how I'd justify his SSJG transformation. - UI can also be triggered by fighting gods, so that's also inevitable - Since the omnitrix would make the best saiyan possible, it'll have full knowledge of s cells, ki, power boosts and so on, so it's also safe to say that the saiyan it popped out would have an abundance of s cells and any other characteristic that allowed Goku to become so strong. - The last point is really more assumption than facts but the way I would assume the Ultimatrix to function is similar to teaching A.I to play games. An alien (Saiyan Ben in this case) will be put in a million year situation where he has a very slim chance of living (let's say less than 0.01% for sake of argument.) Every time he died then it would send him back to before the situation where he died and make him go through it over and over again until finally a million year have been simulated and he's out alive. If we're to believe this then Ben will inevitably trigger Zenkai, UI, God Ki, Surpass any Saiyan that we've currently seen, and mop the floor with the gods (The worst case scenario for DBS kinda implies he'd face a god or something way stronger somewhere in the simulation.) - As a little extra point I'd like to also point out that Ultimatrix training goes beyond "A saiyan would never reach god level no matter how much training he did" because it's not a heightening of Saiyan skills, ki or forms, it would literally be a mutation of their very genetics to the point where you couldn't even call them Saiyans anymore. Sorry for the essay, there's just a lot of things to factor in. I tried to be as detailed as possible without pointing out useless details.

[@gokublack6223]

Isnt legendary super saiyan the ultimate saiyan with the bedr saiyan genetics possible

[@m-swa-ti]

Man I agree with you Broly is like a genetically mutated Saiyan.

[@Yeahooo_0]

I didn't start the video yet but am sure that's a yes like come on.... BUT HEY!... ALIEN X !!! 😂

[@mikailthomas1466]

That thing has like 2,000,000 aliens in it and with your opening statement it was like you were describing Pokemon.

[@MarshKArt]

I had a good thought while rewatching Ultimate Alien. In the episode Duped, Ben turned into Echo Echo and set his Ultimatrix to human and all Echo Echos became Ben. With this idea in mind, Ben could achieve Super Saiyan God if he became Echo Echo, split into 6 and then become a saiyan, the copies could instil Ben with their energy and transform him into a Super Saiyan God. Or that's what I think.

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

64-Bit Saiyan or he could have become over 9000 super namekians and fuse to one super duper namekian.

[@thelastgear8972]

64-Bit Saiyan that’s a good argument but I will have to stop you their how the hell he gonna do ritual he don’t even know how to do it

[@kamaripeart1768]

Ssjx Hershey goku always wants a good fight so he might show him but saying that he didn't see if he did it to gohan if he would go god so ...maybe?

[@thelastgear8972]

Kamari Peart true true

[@MLGLogy]

Precisely.

[@thebroski7886]

Shoudent ben be smarter than azmuth if the omnitrix makes him the best possible alien if he's greymatter ( great video by the way)

[@TheInkTank]

I don't believe intelligence has to do with physicality. But if it did, Ben still only transforms into a 16-year-old Galvan. Azmuth is thousands of years old. Ben might be a healthier, stronger Galvan, but Azmuth will always be First Thinker.

[@NovaBugDrayosix]

Yes i completly agree with Kuro in this case. Though i would argue that ben as grey matter would have an on par or higher ability to learn than azmuth did, and possibly a greater intuition factor given his human side, hence what he did to initially unlock the master controls (if i remember correct)

[@Shinobi_Master]

your probably talking about ken. in the episode ken 10, ken as greymatter was able to unlock the master control.

[@NovaBugDrayosix]

*double checks because it's been forever since i've seen the episode*

[@NovaBugDrayosix]

Seems we were both wrong, according to this article in the wiki, he accidently unlocked it at first, not intentially. My bad. "Original Series The Master Control was first used in Back with a Vengeance. Ben unlocks it by accident when on a boat trip. When a man falls off the boat, Ben uses Ripjaws to get him out of the water, then Stinkfly to fly on back to the boat. He then stays Stinkfly for hours (showing off his unlimited timing) and ruins Gwen's ice cream, who's extremely annoyed by his new powers. After this, he ruins some pictures and causes more trouble until Vilgax and Kevin 11 come to steal the Omnitrix, until Grandpa Max sends them into the Null Void, with Vilgax trapping Diamondhead along with them. After a long chase, they finally get the Omnitrix until Gwen tricks them and gets the Omnitrix back. But Ben, who turned off the Master Control, accidentally transforms into Grey Matter and tries to turn back, but fails." Original source ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Control

[@TheNightTyrant]

*Amazing debate absolutely loved this argument* please do more on what if ben 10 turns in Marvel/DC characters and their potential and ultimate That would make sick videos dude.....please kuro.

[@Odinfang]

This has been very informative. Honestly, looking at the grand scheme of saiyan traits, it’s fair to estimate that Ben’s ultimate saiyan would be something tweaked to the strengths of the biology. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was similar to a ss4 broly, a saiyan in a constant but stable ikari base cause I do believe the full scope of the great ape would be fully tempered into a smaller size for greater mobility but with great muscle mass covered in fur.

[@ibegalvatron6257]

Ultra instinct is a transformation stated in the episode. Also no saiyan can achieve god level ki by normal means of training, it's clearly through ritual or through training among the realm of the gods such as vegetal did and if ben got access to this type of power he wouldn't have a clue how to control such as goku did when he got his god powers. Also I would like you to explain how he would get a saiyans dna in the first place

[@maxdrags3115]

ibeGalvatron By scanning a Saiyan, that's how.

[@km11game77]

he will ask goku.. 😂

[@gamingboii1238]

Naruto Uzumaki Lord 7th true and goku be like "hey ur strong lets fight!

[@raymondbrasuell2564]

What if Ben became a Cybertronian?

[@fireflyer97]

It would be possible considering that Ben has similar bio-mechanical transformations. Like upgrade or clockwork.

[@aboner768]

Raymond Brasuell He could transform into a Toaster!

[@agentbluegaming7709]

I now want to see a crossover comic, the interactions and possibilities would be cool to see.

[@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214]

What if Ben Scan a Angel?

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

Probably wouldn't be useful since he likely wouldn't be able to use an angels power without being erased.

[@alaxgamer3243]

​@@AxisChurchDevoteeI don't that rule would apply on him since he is not from db universe, he might scan and turn into Zeno then what?

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@alaxgamer3243 Maybe since he has alien x already?

[@alaxgamer3243]

@@AxisChurchDevotee idk man they said Alien X's powers are bounded to his universe

[@tylerdamelondragon]

Watching You're video's made me wanna watch ben ten again. So thanks 4 that :)

[@percytheone]

"Goku has trained for all of his transformations" -forgets about Super Saiyan god-

[@myumura862]

evandragonfire Nah, his body already adapted to God ki so he's basically Super Saiyan God in base/normal form.

[@lianaverwood9810]

Actually, what Goku's body got was a maximum potential boost as his base form could now integrate Divine Ki into his system. Goku still needed to train to incorporate Divine Ki into his transformations, allowing him to become a Super Saiyan that utilizes God Ki - Super Saiyan Blue. The fact that Super Saiyan Blue is not the new default Super Saiyan transformation (that he can still use the original Super Saiyan form) means that Goku had to learn how to adapt the new type of ki into his Super Saiyan form.

[@Happy_Abe]

loved the video i just want to say that im pretty sure the evolution process is literally how a species would evolve in the worst scenario over a million years as you pointed out. This is not an individual training for a million years but a species at base gradually getting stronger over a million years due to evolution.

[@kurokitsune17]

Avraham Radin sayians get stronger the more damage they take and recover.

[@Antasma1]

In that case James, they would likely be on par with the angels if not stronger

[@Happy_Abe]

Antasma1 yeah what he said makes little sense for several reasons im not replying unless i hear something that makes sense

[@juliaarmstrong7637]

James Anderson it been state that the zenkai boost is no longer effective so it's gone

[@petelee2477]

Avraham Radin it's a simulation what's not to understand?

[@diegobrando3409]

Oh yeah, and the show itself gave us an explanation on how the ultimate forms are made. The aliens are generated in a simulation and are put in a literal war zone. The aliens then gain sentience like humongosaur and said that his mother tried to eat him during hatching.

[@majormetroid8035]

You could make an entire series out of this. If you do, could you also make videos Ben becoming an Asgardian like Thor or a Kirby?

[@jojibot9193]

landon avery Not all Asgardians are as strong as Thor

[@majormetroid8035]

Yeah, but the omnitrix turns Ben into the batman of each species, So h would at least be close to Thor's level.

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Ben Kirby would make my day

[@boredhuman6512]

Ben as kirby. That would be... interesting...

[@majormetroid8035]

Hey wait, isn't his middle name Kirby?

[@TheBohobemeister]

You should totally draw MonKi and do what if Ben became a Kryptonian! As always, wonderful video Kuro!

[@sylendraws1249]

Dude training and evolution are 2 completely different things

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

SylenDraws I think the thing is the ultimatrix would also give him the instinct of what the DNA evolved to.

[@withinDT]

he said that.

[@sumeiyakhan5663]

If you were in a war zone for 1 mill years you would probably train and get stronger and evolve in the process.

[@Jotunn96]

SylenDraws well technically the ultimatrix does both

[@TheInkTank]

9:02

[@slimer44producciones3]

I have some problems with the video -Swampfire transformation was because swampfire species was maturing at the time ben was 16 -Goku can learn other species techniques, but only because were techniques based on Ki manipulation -and other "transformations" of aliens like Ghostfreak or chromastone are just new desings but the rest of the video is nice