Could F-84 With Genie Nuclear Rocket Have Won The 1940 Battle Of Britain? (WarGames 172) | DCS

[@grimreapers]

Nuclear Battles: Tsar Bomb vs IJN Fleet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZKpaImLZ5h5hLc Genie & Falcon vs IJN Fleet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmilgnmKgtyUnMU Genie vs WWII Bomber Raid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3KlcquMhdR3mc0 Genie vs Soviet Bomber Raid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iITIamyGhdp_a9U

[@GrumpyGamerGuy]

I think you're underestimating how much we the viewers want to see giant formations of our favorite bombers get nuked and fall from the sky.. That was a very fun ending

[@grimreapers]

Fair comment.

[@cakeshoe]

Although you shot down nearly all of them on the first attempt, seeing all those German piolt parachutes over the Home Counties looked like an invasion -- LOL

[@grimreapers]

Weird way to invade?

[@ajendrisak]

Surprise paratrooper invasion!

[@134StormShadow]

Certainly a surprise to the canopy wearers 😂

[@andrewhalo100]

* dads army theme begins in the distance

[@Definitelynotanalienoranything]

​@@ajendrisak**Special** paratrooper operation.

[@shanejohnson7930]

"What else are we gonna blow up?" Two words: Star. Destroyer.

[@yuuzyerbrejn9603]

Cool early jets, lotsa slow bombers, boom boom everywhere, and then a nuke takes the whole formation out! Fantastic vid! Can the Genie take on the Boghammer swarm?

[@steveturner3999]

I would love to see a repeat of the "Battle of Palmdale" with the F-89 Scorpion using the FFAR’s against that F6F Hellcat target drone that went rogue.

[@JJ-1-1]

Did you hear them talking about the f 89

[@grimreapers]

Closest we have: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foPTi2qHeZ1-e6c

[@drrocketman7794]

Came here to say this!

[@steveturner3999]

@@grimreapers Not sure how I missed this one! Time to redo with F-89’s!

[@stevedowning5408]

how about you and the boys defending pearl harbor using genies@@grimreapers

[@Caelum_NLD]

Getting Final Countdown vibes ;) Cheers guys, for the video. Got myself the Heatblur F14, the Sabre, the P47 and the Supercarrier in the aniversary sale. I am completely new, but these are the birds that felt most right. Will dive into learning the Tomcat with my T16000, together with your videos and Chuck's guides.

[@DukeExemplo]

Love the 1950s jets. These are some of my favorite gr vids

[@grimreapers]

My favourite to fly. Pure flying! No BS.

[@dexlab7539]

ThunderJet best 1950 jet…question mark?

[@jrizos06]

That was incredible seeing the planes fragment like that from the nuclear blast - definitely wouldn't want to be around the real thing

[@itsjustme8947]

On the plus side, you'd never know what hit you. The initial radiation is instantly lethal that is IF the energy pulse didn't fluoresce your bones and literally make you explode. Happy thought, eh?

[@jrizos06]

@@itsjustme8947The sheer gamma flux energy needed to cause calcium to emit at a lower energy state would've vaporized one long ago - certainly a horrific weapon either way

[@FarmerDrew]

Funny you uploaded this video, I just visited the National Museum of the US Air Force, where they have a testing Genie, thing is amazingly small

[@grimreapers]

I assumed it would be massive!

[@FarmerDrew]

@@grimreapers it could fit on a pallet

[@RileyHolmes-m1m]

It’s always a banger when there’s boom boom in the vid cap

[@grimreapers]

BB is important.

[@adamwatson6605]

the f-84 was also the first jet fighter to do aerial refueling during the Korean War and that model was the f-48g. the f-84f was a swept wing version of the the f-84.

[@matthewcoleman1919]

Let's not forget about the Thunderscreech. The turboprop variant Cap mentioned. It was apparently the loudest aircraft ever produced. Significant hearing loss was achieved every time!

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@matthewcoleman1919 it caused seizures, deafness, loss of consciousness, cracked concrete with just the sound etc. it was insane, you couldn’t even properly record the sound of it from tens of miles away

[@RedTSquared]

Okay, that was super fun to watch. Thanks and as always, stayed for the Landings and 'Comradery'! Never Change GR, never change.

[@mm3mm3]

Thanks Cap for another great video! It’s just the excitement I need for a Saturday 😊😊😊

[@paulhurst7748]

I can just imagine those pilots on the JU-88s seeing the jets fly over them and realizing that they were probably doomed. And having no ideal where they came from! If I was the pilot of a JU-88, I would turn tail, dive to the ground and run for home.

[@Driveby-Viktum]

The wreckage of the nuked bombers was probably more damaging to the countryside than the damn bombing run would've been =)

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@nobodyhome8148]

The radioactive fallout would take their minds off it 😛

[@A_Haunted_Pancake]

LOLZ, Imagine sitting somewhere in the English Countryside, enjoying your tea & crumpets and suddenly there's a bright flash, followed by a thick rain of Junkers-wrecks. 😯😆

[@grimreapers]

I'd actually like that. But I'm weird.

[@Dafmeister1978]

I'm just imagining all the kids in Folkestone and Hythe running around, picking up bits of irradiated bomber wreckage.

[@betariffic1]

Thinking back to your early videos defending london, and you guys have come so far and gotten way better at your tactics and execution, very well done. If I were living in sim-london and I had to choose one ad-hoc squadron with future weapons to keep me safe, I'd want it to be you guys

[@Immudzen]

Yes I can confirm we like explosions. You could have even run one additional run where those bombers dropped nukes instead just for the fun of it. :) Just look at how well Michael Bay movies do to understand that people like explosions and the story is optional. ;) I still like learning about the aircraft and the interesting commentary so don't do just explosions.

[@grimreapers]

Wow! now that would be a lot of boomboom.

[@Qwerty2_6649]

One of My Favorite Variants of this Is the F-84F Thunderstreak, lovely Aircraft

[@Mariner311]

I'm sure there was a brevity code for special weapons launch... I remember the word for dropping a nuclear depth bomb - "Dustbin, Dustbin, Dustbin"... rather appropriate as the world would become a dustbin afterwards .

[@alexandercain8904]

24:08 "There's a joke in there somewhere" Fritz in bits?

[@petertyson4022]

Like the history and fun facts in this sim game from the GR. Cap has to put a naughty word in. Knophead. Lol😁. And that's one of the better ones. 👍

[@Salvage1]

Hum the theme from "I Dream of Jeannie" when you launch the Genie. 😄 Boom ba boom boom

[@charliejordansyoutubechann6857]

I love these types of videos

[@MultiDivebomber]

I've just watched an original Star Trek episode, where USS Enterprise was about to be shot down with a Genie missile...

[@grimreapers]

I've seen it!

[@TheEvertw]

"Looks like they are all in bits" That missile took a byte out of that attack force... At least that is my reckoning...

[@Wolfe351]

be nice if we had more AXIS aircraft for fleshing out WW2 missions.......

[@CMDRSweeper]

We really need the Argentinians vs some 1950 and 1960's aircraft on defense. Especially since it is early missile fights, it could get interesting to watch.

[@Capoe3]

Imperial star destroyer and Star Wars units vs the genie rockets on modern aircraft.

[@LuciusFaith]

dude standard laser blasters on the imperial cruise ships where already at 40 gigatonnes converted from joules which is 0.5 percent less power than in the tzar bomba. even the xwings laser blasters is as powerfull as small tactical nukes. not to talk about cruise ships firing range where where between 1 and one and a half astronomical units which is the length that the earth is from the sun. so the earth would be vaporized long before they would even notice!

[@doomer_to_boomer2402]

You know you have to do a Genie squadron defending Pearl Harbour right?

[@grimreapers]

ooOOO

[@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA]

To quote Leeloo Dallas-Multipass: Baaada-boom.

[@haytorrock3312]

F94 starfire had afterburner i think? was an interim 2 seat interceptor based on the 2 seat f80, used till the f89 came along. These era planes used to use unguided rockets as air to air as well.

[@Anarchy_420]

6:31 I like 1940's jets more! ;) 22:33 only one way to find out! Lol if so please include P-80, F-100, F-104, and F-105! 28:04 lol come Cap I hate when you say that😅 I'm sure there's plenty more you could do! Attack Ships, (could even try modern ships), and possibly a defending Pearl Harbor scenario!👍

[@TallShip286]

The F-102 Delta Dagger did not carry the Genie Rocket…as far as the “Century Series” aircraft were concerned, only the F-101 and F-106 carried the rocket. The F-102 carried the AIM-26 Super Falcon missile, which was a guided nuclear tipped “Fox 1” missile with a range of six miles.

[@dwarvensmith80]

F-86 had a GE J47, the J47 was first axial flow turbojet approved for commercial use in US.

[@Mcree114]

Any surviving planes not directly hit would've been mission killed due to blinded/bursted eardrums pilots.

[@cerberes]

Can the older jets be given the thrust of modern engines and see what kind of hilarity happens??

[@SmithandWesson22A]

Wing ripping off hilariously

[@stuartburgess6945]

Used to glide at West Malling with the cadets in the seventies the old night fighter station made famous by "Cats eyes" Cunningham, sadly now a housing estate 😢

[@charliejordansyoutubechann6857]

Your videos always are entertaining

[@PropertyOfAnna]

I love your videos! BUT! I have one request: Can you please enlarge your mouse pointer so it is easier to see where it is on the screen? If you changed the pointer color to, say, yellow - that would be even more swell. Keep up the good work!

[@Szadek676]

Cap, can you use the genie rockets on ground targets, like a WWII anti air battery?

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@Andy47357]

the Code for firing a Nuke Is i forget the exact term but it an ARROW because every other term used to describe the events with nukes were empty quiver, broken arrow, or other weapon terms like bent spear, or dull sword, and NUCFLASH

[@philipzielinski]

Tactics question: when the jets are so much faster than the bombers, why not run through across the formation, placing the whole width of the formation across your gun sights and then just running figure eights across the formation? I've thought this other times when you've done these speed mismatches. Just wondering.

[@grimreapers]

We would do that if they had defending fighters, but as they didn't we could line up perfect shots.

[@Ewen6177]

As a Brit, will we ever see the Hawker Hunter. Or even the English Electric Lighting. God those aircraft were beautiful to look at and hear.

[@carlousmagus5387]

I absolutely love the nuclear missions. Do you think that nukes can be incorporated into the present, next, or future campaigns?

[@cmendla]

My brain is all over the place tonight. There was a guy, I think it was in WWII, who fitted bazookas to his piper cub spotter plane. Sooooo Hang a half dozen Davey Crockets under the wings of something that can get to 20k feet.

[@dasmooze]

Cap try seeing if the genie rocket could help with shooting down the SR-71 black bird and or the new SR-72. Sounds like the only thing left to try and gives you reason to fly the sexiest plane ever made!

[@grimreapers]

Will try but can you imagine how hard it's going to be to fire it at the right time?

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@grimreapers is there a possibility of you adjusting an actual radar missiles yield instead of firing the rocket.

[@woodrick88]

How many Genies would it take to stop the Pearl Harbour attack?

[@grimreapers]

ooooOOO

[@TallShip286]

Genie Rockets fired from a flying boat just for fun…

[@woodrick88]

@@TallShip286 Oooo.

[@dwaynezilla]

28:48 gettin the fire ready for the weenies and marshmallows

[@LukeBunyip]

This missive is a boom boom like confirmation. You are more than welcome. As you were...

[@grimreapers]

Interesting...

[@Anarchy_420]

Your missing the point of a P-80 Vid... It's our first operational jet fighter! Flying around the same time as Me-262, please reconsider doing my original request. Lol as I stated before if you guys had The Me-262 you'd be going crazy with it... bummer you don't seem to feel the same about The U.S. P-80 Shooting Star!😅 Please! P-80 intercept Ju-88's with Fw190's Antons plus Doras and Bf109G's plus K-4's escorts!🙏

[@darrylsmith7871]

I read somewhere that the tactic was to detonate the genie above the enemy formation - the pressure wave would snap the wings off of all the bombers. I'm pretty sure this was never tested. Good news Reapers - the Air Force determined that radiation exposure to the launching aircraft and crews was within "acceptable limits".

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

How effective would an S-400 Anti air site have been against a gaggle of Gotha bombers?

[@stevedawson8128]

"Chicken house" is what Polish people say instead of swearing, kind of like "dang". Funny you guys mentioned that.

[@drrocketman7794]

The infamous XF-84H Thunderscreech... the loudest airplane ever built

[@brianpullin683]

Imagine if CH made a zero length launch trailer and discarding rocket boosters for the F-104 starfighter, like they trialed in real life. Hey CAP have you been watching C4 topguns of the RAF by chance. Thanks for the vids👍

[@ivorharden]

Gloster Meteor would be great on DCS and it pronounced West Mauling

[@grimreapers]

Agreed

[@alanmike6883]

Another Great scenario video cap 😊👍

[@gofoats]

Everything is great when Fritz is in bits.

[@waynesworldofsci-tech]

Yep, lots of boom please! FYI, I’m fiddling with modeling the CF-100 Canuck. Wish me luck.

[@tofubutcher7456]

According to Wikipedia, nuke brevity code is "Roman Candle"

[@andreamanninfiaschi1679]

The birdie said it well! C'mon with the big sexy explosions!!! They don't hurt anyone, after all ,-)

[@Urugami45]

Was this the rocket they used in Independence Day to take out the mothership?

[@itsjustme8947]

Nope.

[@grimreapers]

Did the B-2's fire it? I assume it was a ficticious weapon but I may be wrong.

[@Urugami45]

@@grimreapers No, it wasn't the B-2 ; I think that was a TLAM-N. I mean the one they attached to the crashed alien ship and brought up to the big ship. It was only on screen for a split second, but it looked like this one, like an RPG on steroids.

[@jamesp8164]

Good Lord. It wasn't a bunch of planes crashing. It was parts of planes falling out of the sky :D

[@HAL_9001]

Ok, hear me out. A-12 (or SR-72) with Genie nuclear rockets on a strike mission on the Crimean SAM site.

[@jakeslouw3416]

Strange that you didn't use the Gloster Meteor? It was in service before the F-84 and DCS has a version? They were just as fast as the F-84?

[@kencreten7308]

You had me at genie nuclear rocket.

[@americianflyer72]

Cap also to your earlier comment about the Sabre carrying a nuclear bomb, it seems that only the F-86H was capable of carrying one but the article I read didn't specify so I would assume it was also the Mark 7 nuclear bomb

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@bj_ramz9162]

Amazing video

[@susanmontgomery7121]

@4:10 Who remembers the old "The Comic Strip" show?

[@grimreapers]

Oh yes...

[@paulhurst7748]

But we need another silly episode about the balloon bombers.

[@grimreapers]

Those were the good times weren't they?

[@paulhurst7748]

Oh yes! Can we do it again?

[@CheapSushi]

I propose a Deathmatch, everyone has a nuke, last player alive wins. Everyone comes in at each other in a giant circle. It would be hilarious because it's hard to tell if you're in the kill zone or not, same it's a game of chicken.

[@GryphonArmorer]

The top speed of the Ju-88 was 317mph (275knots). Again... just a little research goes a long wa.

[@pahtar7189]

One additional Genie mission might be interesting: Angola (which has about 80 MiG-21, MiG-23, Su-22, Su-25, and Su-30 aircraft) are attacking their neighbor Zambie (which has fewer than a dozen MiG-19 fighters supplemented by an archaic S-125 air defense system). Expecting a pitiful defense by obsolete aircraft with no modern missiles, the attackers have their fighters in an impressive formation above their heavily laden attack aircraft with cargo and transport aircraft several miles behind. Unbeknownst to the Angolans, Zambia know the attack is coming. Zambia prepositioned one of their hopelessly outmatched MiG-19s in a camouflaged tent. As the armada passes overhead, the MiG powers out of its concealment, takes off from a makeshift runway, and fires a Genie to take out the Attacking MiGs and Sukhois from behind then turns to gun down the Angolan cargo and troop aircraft. Minutes later, another MiG-19 uses a Genie to take out the main invasion force of T-62 and T-72 main battle tanks. The Zambian Army then moves into position to defend the border against any remaining attacking units and refugees.

[@cultureshock5000]

did u do teh genie vs a b17 attack? or is there a soviet counter part

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

You do realize that the flight path of the bombers will be slightly "hot", radiation wise. The volley of nukes will produce considerable fallout.

[@Capoe3]

Not really, just localized. The planes themselves would be but not much fallout due to lack of particalized ground debris. Not saying none just minimal. Doubt the people over the coast would like you much for 20 years or so though.

[@grimreapers]

Just wait for a strong Easterly wind? (joke)

[@Capoe3]

Yep to heck with that special relationship send you guys a care package, free X-rays for everyone. @@grimreapers

[@paulparker7419]

What size is your yield model? Genie was only 1.5 kt? 2 miles seems a bit big for a kill radius?

[@itsjustme8947]

1.5kt has an instant kill radius of about 1,000 feet, a radiation pulse kill range of about a mile, thermal pulse range of half a mile, with a matching pressure wave radius. However, they did launch several at once. Probably lost half the Genies to warhead fratricide as well.

[@grimreapers]

Roger, 2 miles was a guess TBH, I don't have a very good way of testing it properly.

[@paulparker7419]

@@grimreapers Well, no matter what radius you can work with, it's great of you to actually make these missions! 👍

[@mnanthony3-ty3qh]

The Genie against the German Channel Dash Warships?

[@grimreapers]

Tried but warhead does not seem to damage ships at moment. Will try to fix.

[@terencyowens9491]

This... But have the defenders go up vs a V-1 raid. Or, straight up air to air combat using late 1940's early 1950's warbirds from both sides.

[@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595]

Ah yes, when in doubt, toss a nuke! Say Cap, have you tried _Atomic Annie_ at the Battle of Kasserine Pass?

[@jasonhesson1030]

"The Fritz . . . are now in bits!!!!!!"

[@cultureshock5000]

you should give the Japanese fritz x and have them attack pearl that would be interesting

[@shubzilla755]

Defend Pearl Harbor with Genie-equipped WWI aircraft. Nuclear triplanes!

[@gunzelloharris3348]

Cool Vid CAP ;)

[@BlueDelta117]

Can you do a yf-23 mission. The yf-23 was my childhood aircraft that I loved and would love to see a mission done with this beautiful and amazing aircraft

[@msgtammodudea393]

Are those AIM-9Bs? They entered service in 1956.

[@ssg9offical]

That was absolutely insane.

[@pahtar7189]

I was surprised to see German parachutes after the nuke attack. I'm pretty sure none of the crew would have made it.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

It’s just a big pressure wave, the fireball is much smaller.

[@TR4Ajim]

FYI- the F-84 had six .50 machine guns, not cannon. I wonder how much radiation you (and the jet) would have been exposed to.

[@itsjustme8947]

At roughly six miles, they'd have all survived BUT they'd be sick as hell for about a week.

[@grimreapers]

Thx

[@cmendla]

I met a guy once who flew the F 106 and was trained for the Genie. IIRC the launching profile was more complex than I would have thought . Again, going from memory, the idea was to start a loop and launch as you were pitching up. Then, you would have your tail pointed to the detonation so that the A/C would absorb a lot of the radiation. Then dive to get speed to separate from the blast effects.

[@timbaskett6299]

Oh crap!! Cap, you killed my favorite cheese factory!!!! I just hope they got my cheddar order out first!!! 😄 To be honest, I kind of wished they had more of the Century Series fighters. It would be cool to see what would happen if the Cold War went "hot" in the '60s. Republic has a great history of aircraft. The P-47, the F-84, the F-105, and the A-10!!! "Fox-kT" maybe?

[@haytorrock3312]

Wonder it you can get the e28/39 as a flyable and see if the raf could have used it in the battle of britain?

[@trevorday7923]

One absolutely ICONIC 60s/70s fighter/interceptor NEEDS to get the GR treatment. Ladies & Gentlemen, I present to you..... The English-Electric Lightning. Basically two F**KING-great engines with a couple of Sidewinders gaffer-taped on for good measure, capable of going supersonic in a 90 degree climb. Brute-force British engineering at its best 🥰🥰

[@grimreapers]

Yup we'll eventually get a copy of one in game.

[@kenhelmers2603]

No score card? Fun stuff

[@markredacted8547]

I would love to see what era of 6 ship aircraft could defend against a massive multi-prongned WW2 German bomber raid, coming from multiple directions. Would it be 1950's with the F86/F102/A4 skyhawk maybe/F11/F9F/F104/MiG-17/MiG-19/MiG-21/F84 1960's with more reliance on missiles ie starfighter/F5/Mirage 3/Lightning/F4/Draken/Viggen Or maybe 1970's Harrier/F15/Mirage 2000/F14/F16/ Obviously shortlist aircraft you think will be best. Rules, Scramble for intercept, destroy all or as many bombers inbound (No escorts but they fire back), no refueling or rearming fight till everyone is winchester, pause server. Score it up, try next aircraft and so on. Obstructions: each bomber wave is coming from vastly different directions testing aircrafts speed and efficiency, as well as pilots grasp to balance all these as well as the mission at hand. Respawn on takeoff errors or usual stuff, if you are shot down or Fox4 you gain 1 point for your aircraft plus 1 if you take out enemy. Clock stops when all fighters are winchester, however many bombers remain is the score If the bombers make it to London city and drop ordanance you gain 2 points per bomber that drops. (remember lower is better) Which fighter performs best? and this could be funny af

[@TheRealAaronSmith]

I think the brevity code for nuclear rockets is "Fox Fuck"

[@nathand.9969]

2020's CSG with F-84's and genie rockets vs 2020's Iranian boat and drone swarms.

[@americianflyer72]

Cap the F-84G had the capability to carry a single Mark 7 nuclear bomb and the Thunderbirds used the Thunderjet as their 1st ever aircraft

[@grimreapers]

Sounds like I need to model it...

[@gofoats]

Wouldn't there be an EMP that fries the electrical systems of the bombers? Would the planes just shut down?

[@harryspeakup8452]

maybe a 100th of a second before they are incinerated and ripped to pieces, so what practical difference?

[@clangerbasher]

The wreckage from the nuked Germans looks like it did as much damage as the bombs!!!