Could Fighter Aircraft Shoot Down Satellites At Over 300,000ft? | DCS

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Grim Reapers

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Күн бұрын

Inspired by the 1985 shooting down of a US test satellite by an ASM-135 ASAT anti-satellite missile fired from an F-15A Eagle, we run our own attempt to shoot down a satellite at super high altitude.
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0:00 Overview & Scenario Details
4:37 Predictions & Tactics
7:08 Satellite At 125,000ft
10:42 Satellite At 150,000ft
12:11 Satellite At 200,000ft
17:34 Satellite At 250,000ft
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@swayzefan3600
@swayzefan3600 Ай бұрын
the US navy recently tested an SM-6 mounted to the superhornet. see if you can shoot down ballistic missiles using aircraft - aim-260 i guess?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Some one said air-launched SM-6? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHKyop-drbF_ac0
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Ай бұрын
@swayzefan3600 *An AIM-163 variant o' the tube-launched RIM-163 Standard VI?* Far more appropriate for a USN-USMC / Northrop Grumman AF-14 Echo, which can handle the weight.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Ай бұрын
​​@@grimreapers Please do this again, however with-- MIG-31 with R-37M, ST-21 with AIM-152, SU-35 with R-77M, J-20 with PL-15, J-15 with PL-17, F-22 with AIM-260, F/A-XX with AIM-260, and the following with either AIM-260 or SM-6, F-15EX, YF-12A, and SR-72! To make it even more spicy at the end you could use The AIM-4 Falcon and Genie Rocket!🙏👍
@UK2KTim
@UK2KTim 27 күн бұрын
@@grimreapersSM-3 are made for interception outside the atmosphere.
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 24 күн бұрын
@@Anarchy_420 *The Hughes AIM-47, the ultimate development o' the Falcon AAM, is far superior to the AIM-4 Series w/r/t range.* Superior to the AIM-26, in fact. U. S. Air Force FX already won by the McDonnellDouglas F-15, Tactical Air Command USAF could've probably used the Grumman F-14 Series for deep strike missions: Provided that the General Dynamics F-111 failed to meet spec, that is.
@tkopp10976
@tkopp10976 Ай бұрын
Hello valued Super Cap, we hope YOU are doing fantastically well!
@TwoMikesProductions
@TwoMikesProductions Ай бұрын
Bunny Nakamura from Red Storm Rising gets her Ace by shooting Satellites. Really cool sequences.
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 Ай бұрын
_"Bunny Nakamura"_ is who I immediately thought of too!
@scottr9900
@scottr9900 Ай бұрын
Buns
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 Ай бұрын
@@scottr9900 Bunny, "Buns" is how I remember her.
@TwoMikesProductions
@TwoMikesProductions Ай бұрын
@@xenaguy01 yeah Her dad calls her bunny and her mates get wind of that and call her ‘buns’. Great parts of the book when they engage and smack the bears as taxi pilots
@benrichey2593
@benrichey2593 Ай бұрын
The first space ace…
@JAEUFM
@JAEUFM Ай бұрын
To make the attempt legendary, the Avro Arrow needs to be brought into DCS to make an attempt.
@5Andysalive
@5Andysalive Ай бұрын
DCS altitude and speed limits need to be raised by a LOT.
@derekwaycott3785
@derekwaycott3785 Ай бұрын
The arrow was a game changer
@jimdraven2432
@jimdraven2432 Ай бұрын
Damn right it was a game changer. The Arrow should've been mass produced, but it's demise just showed the near sightedness of military & political garbage that still exists today.
@JesusFriedChrist
@JesusFriedChrist Ай бұрын
@@jimdraven2432Facts.
@jimdraven2432
@jimdraven2432 Ай бұрын
@@JesusFriedChrist it does make me wonder why the Avro Arrow isn't included in DCS. I'd LOVE to have an opportunity to fly it!! (I'm Canadian so it holds a special place in my heart).
@Greybeard1357
@Greybeard1357 Ай бұрын
Interesting exercise. I was at Norfolk when the USAF was testing the ASAT at Langley in the 80s. More recently in '08 the USN shot down a satellite with an SM3. It's probably more likely that in the future the more versatile SM would be used in the future should it become necessary.
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 24 күн бұрын
@Greybeard1357 *The RIM-161, I presume?* The Aerojet-Raytheon RIM-163 could have a MIM-163 variant for land use. Better support across land and naval versions. The Lockheed Martin AIM-260 is a missile with rocket booster and solid-fuel ramjet sustainer motors.
@AnimeFan-gp6jb
@AnimeFan-gp6jb Ай бұрын
I remember that during "Operation Burnt Frost", a Standard SM-3 SAM was used to shoot down a satellite. The KZbin comment section doesn't like it when I post links, but you can find it with a search engine.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
thx
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 29 күн бұрын
@AnimeFan-gp6jb *The RIM-162, I presume?* This and the RIM-163 Standard VI are candidates for antisatellite missions. A far superior missile might be an RSM-275 (Standard X) version; Lockheed Martin is developing the XAIM-260 for their F-22 and F-35 Series.
@Dark_Heart5580
@Dark_Heart5580 27 күн бұрын
​@BCSchmerker It was a modified Rim-161 also known as an SM3
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 24 күн бұрын
@@Dark_Heart5580 Viz., a YAIM-161 variant.
@jpteknoman
@jpteknoman Ай бұрын
To hit a satellite you need a missile with a long burn time and a way to change direction outside the atmosphere.
@StupidStuff135
@StupidStuff135 Ай бұрын
The hardest part of hitting a satellite isn't the altitude, it's the speed! Same challenges as sams trying to intercept hypersonics. Love the channel, hope you're well cap 💛
@JulianDanzerHAL9001
@JulianDanzerHAL9001 Ай бұрын
well, much greater speed but much more predictable trajectory so if you get data from the ground and can stick to a preplanned timing this doesn't really stop you from sending something oan collision course that only locks on and does course corrections shortly before impact
@AKAtheA
@AKAtheA Ай бұрын
also the detail that the satellite is well outside of usable atmosphere, so any missile without reactive terminal maneuvering will miss
@captain_kirkyt2481
@captain_kirkyt2481 Ай бұрын
Cool, glad to see you back cap
@robertvantine2810
@robertvantine2810 Ай бұрын
Me in the comments: "Why not use an A-10 and just throw a wall of depleted uranium vertical? Cap: "Wait a sec...hold my tea!"
@NoahsBox
@NoahsBox Ай бұрын
IRL the ASAT mission had something like sub 60 second window in which the F-15 was in range. Its pretty realistic that its difficult to find and lock up the target and get a good launch angle all in the span of a very short period of time.
@nevisstkitts8264
@nevisstkitts8264 Ай бұрын
Answer: yes, the F35 in cooperative engagement mode can intercept satellite over 700,000 ft altitude by taskinga Standard Missile 3. First sat intercept by SM 3 was on 21 Feb 2008. First cooperative engagement taskinf from F35 to aegis was on 12 Sep 2016.
@scottaveldson69
@scottaveldson69 Ай бұрын
Great video. Love the high altitude videos for some reason. I also liked the teamwork with the boys to launch the missiles at the right time. I've been a subscriber for around 5 years and I love what you all contribute to people that enjoy your content.
@davidhines7592
@davidhines7592 Ай бұрын
this was part of red storm rising book.
@lakeline6317
@lakeline6317 Ай бұрын
Cap, agree with you, Patriot Pac3 on an F-15 could be a good option for ASAT.
@Robert-pl1gd
@Robert-pl1gd Ай бұрын
Here is a thought, if the missile will find it by itself, then don't fire directly at the target you have to lead the target. if you fire directly at it, by the time the missile gets there the satellite is long gone. As seen with most of the shots. good flying though Cap
@cesarespinozaspain
@cesarespinozaspain Ай бұрын
"Buns" Bunny Nakamura approves!
@Adwaenyth
@Adwaenyth Ай бұрын
Well you will need computerized guidance because IRL it wouldn't only be 400 km high but also moving at at least 8 km/s when in orbit. Intercepting a target moving at Mach 24 isn't easy.
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Ай бұрын
Orbit is a bit less than 8 km/s (circualar), which only decreases as you go up^^
@Adwaenyth
@Adwaenyth Ай бұрын
@@patricktho6546 closest satellite orbits will have 7.7 km/s. Highly elliptical orbits like a lot of surveillance sattelites have (Molniya orbits for example) have up to10 km/s at periapsis.
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Ай бұрын
@@Adwaenyth therefore I limited it to cirqular orbits...
@nicks.8971
@nicks.8971 Ай бұрын
Nerds have entered the chat……and I’m here for it, go onnn!
@jaxompol224
@jaxompol224 Ай бұрын
Cap just did not think that the canopy being in place was causing the problems 🤔
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Ah yes, that was it.
@ecbst6
@ecbst6 Ай бұрын
Yup, basic training was July 1985, so I well remember the ASAT 🙂
@codyj7532
@codyj7532 Ай бұрын
Now I want a video of you putting jets into orbit
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom Ай бұрын
Right!? Give me zoom climb of the best F-15 variant that exists, carrying only external fuel and enough to hit max speed, at the highest altitude and vertical as it flames out due to lack of oxygen as it’s running in fumes, for max thrust to weight ratio as it burns through stupid amounts of fuel in full burner, at this point, 90 degree climb.
@JulianDanzerHAL9001
@JulianDanzerHAL9001 Ай бұрын
well you'd need some fictional hypersonic plane for that its not really about altitude but speed if you can reach mach 23 you are in orbit regardless of altitude if you caN't then you aren't regardless of altitude its jsut much easier to reach amch 23 at really high altitudes
@sammysmirh3889
@sammysmirh3889 Ай бұрын
Great video Cap, lots of fun
@Joker18336
@Joker18336 Ай бұрын
This had me fired up the whole time! Good fun.
@MeatVision
@MeatVision Ай бұрын
Glad to see you back, Cap! You need a missile with multi axis boosters, you won't get any air to react with the fins at that height
@hunterwyeth
@hunterwyeth Ай бұрын
This was a fun one!
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Ай бұрын
Please do this again, however with-- MIG-31 with R-37M, ST-21 with AIM-152, SU-35 with R-77M, J-20 with PL-15, J-15 with PL-17, F-22 with AIM-260, F/A-XX with AIM-260, and the following with either AIM-260 or SM-6, F-15EX, YF-12A, and SR-72!🙏👍
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Ай бұрын
@Anarchy_420 *The designation for Project ST21: USN-USMC / Northrop Grumman ASF-14 Hotel all-weather strike fighter.* Crew of two (Pilot fore, WSO aft); dual General Electric F120-GE-406 controlled-bypass turbofans with extended afterburner barrels, fed by strengthened four-shock inlets; AESA radar and RHAW receiver built in house by Northrop Grumman Avionics; buddy-hose and ATARPS compatible. (The ASAT mission requires two Rails on Stations 3 and 6 for an AIM-163 or ASM-280 INS AAM.)
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Ай бұрын
@@BCSchmerker in the past GR have used The ST-21 Super Tomcat with AIM-152 GDW's
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Ай бұрын
@@BCSchmerker kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpfbh6Gbmrusga8si=a7S8akRP7yijkFFV👍
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Ай бұрын
@@BCSchmerker Grim Reapers vid with ST-21 with AIM-152 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKGbap9jbrqSq7csi=V1Jl4SQTP7w3FYsA
@jrizos06
@jrizos06 Ай бұрын
Great test, cap et al. Proves that the natural laws of physics still works (somewhat) in DCS
@Redman147
@Redman147 Ай бұрын
This is cool. Quite interesting.
@andycharnell
@andycharnell Ай бұрын
Great videos guys keep them coming, go super cap! 😅
@lennyfair6177
@lennyfair6177 Ай бұрын
This was fun and made you think. What if that interceptor missile hadn't been made. What could be used to knock out a pesky eye in the sky. Glad you're up and about Cap 🙂
@Musix4me-Clarinet
@Musix4me-Clarinet Ай бұрын
Twas a bad idea. That much debris is nothing but trouble for everyone.
@itsjustme8947
@itsjustme8947 10 күн бұрын
An ASAT missile actually has thrusters for minor course correction on leaving atmosphere. Also, you are required to follow a VERY specific flight path for a VERY specific amount of time. You're leading a target moving at roughly 17,000 mph (depending upon satellite altitude). The intercept is all in the math. The thrust to weight ratio of the F15 is one of the reasons why this is the plane of choice.
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak Ай бұрын
@8:55 Sven banging away at the problem, We missed you Sven♥
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
I wish Sven would stop banging!
@oliabid-price4517
@oliabid-price4517 Ай бұрын
This is where you need a EE Lightning - Mach 2 vertical climb to launch...
@ivorharden
@ivorharden Ай бұрын
I have seen a lightning mod on youtube
@anvil5356
@anvil5356 Ай бұрын
Nice idea, pity about the firestreak
@SmithandWesson22A
@SmithandWesson22A Ай бұрын
How much fuel? 1 minute? 5? At full burn. Anyone know?
@ivorharden
@ivorharden Ай бұрын
@@SmithandWesson22A there is an interview with an RAF pilot where i believe he says he could empty the fuel tanks after 10 minutes.
@AuraKnightTheLucario
@AuraKnightTheLucario Ай бұрын
you could potentially use the option that gives you on screen markers for targets to simulate the guidance package
@jamison884
@jamison884 Ай бұрын
All of my favorite Cap videos contain the quote "look at its jigglers."
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
lol
@trevob123
@trevob123 15 күн бұрын
Fun fact the pilot of the F15 that actually did this is a client of mine now he's an astronaut
@pancudowny
@pancudowny Ай бұрын
Perhaps you should try using a Majik missile... because they're known for being useful in attacks on darkness!😄
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Ай бұрын
+GrimReapersAtomic *The U. S. Air-Launched Antisatellite Missile, Service Test, YASM-135* (and the potential Tube-Launched and Rail-Launched versions) *was the first truly hypersonic AAM.* Ideal aircraft for the mission? The USN-USMC / Northrop Grumman F-14E-190-GR, with dual General Electric F120-GE-400 controlled-bypass turbofans fed by strengthened four-shock inlets.
@randalljones4370
@randalljones4370 Ай бұрын
Giant.Rubber.Bands. You need a bigger elastic. ... or drag out the HARP gun (110 miles range)
@wastool
@wastool Ай бұрын
Without watching the video, the answer is yes because in 1985 an F15 did.
@buzzhack4778
@buzzhack4778 Ай бұрын
Cap loved this vid, what about English Electric Lightning I’ve heard great things about these beasts
@charlietheunicorn5383
@charlietheunicorn5383 Ай бұрын
The Boeing YAL-1 airborne laser testbed was a modified Boeing 747-400F with a megawatt-class chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) mounted inside. It was designed to take out tactical ballistic missiles, but perhaps it could be anti-satellite capable had it been allowed to become an operational component of the USAF arsenal. Perhaps GR should fly a B747 around for funs.
@MAB-nj8wf
@MAB-nj8wf Ай бұрын
Use a MiG-31, intercepting the SR-72 Darkstar, while it's going Mach 5.5, at 264,000 feet. That's gonna be the realistic numbers anyway...
@johnord684
@johnord684 Ай бұрын
Red Storm Rising
@PyrotechnicMailman
@PyrotechnicMailman Ай бұрын
i lold at the parachute
@johandewet2588
@johandewet2588 Ай бұрын
A nice way to make space debris that will stuff up other satelites in time as well as the ISS.
@IAMSEYMOURMUSIC
@IAMSEYMOURMUSIC 10 күн бұрын
It's run out of something! >air It's run out of something! >air
@pahtar7189
@pahtar7189 Ай бұрын
The SR-71 with Phoenix should do this. Isn't there a two stage missile? The second stage may be able to correct enough for a hit.
@SuperAd1980
@SuperAd1980 Ай бұрын
Ohh nice.
@markredacted8547
@markredacted8547 Ай бұрын
Can I make a recommendation that would make a war game simulation either very efficient or laughably inefficient, can GR get Grinding Sidewinder and Longshot into a war game as either pilots (efficient) or as a buddy team on helicopters, or as pilot and RIO/WSO (laughably inefficient). I watch all these channels and would love to see the chaos this could invoke. Especially if GS and Longshot are helo, where they have the combat effectiveness of stormtroopers and make questionable decisions "lets dogfight a MI24 in our Huey". Just a thought Get well soon Cap, love from Australia.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
I'm always up for it, but I know time zones are a problem, and now I have a baby I can not be flexible on times. Just life.
@IcdBlade
@IcdBlade Ай бұрын
I think like Dark said you have to have a lock before you fire the missile so it can maneuver to intercept while in air and under power. Maybe try with your AESA radars and AIM-120Ds?
@mopardude824
@mopardude824 Ай бұрын
Hey Cap, video idea for you. At Bandar Lengeh airfield on the Persian Gulf map there is a hole in the wall on the Northwest corner of the airfield. It would be cool to see a video where a armored group enters the airfield from there and does a thing, thanks.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
OK cool
@5Andysalive
@5Andysalive Ай бұрын
of course the real/added challenge and achievement is timing. A satellite in low earth orbit moves with several km per second sideways. If you don't nail it to the (i guess split-) second, this method would fail. In a way your SR-72 intercept attempts were closer to the challenge. Unless, that was also considered, you create a massive area of effect (i.e. a nuclear explosion) to take it out. That is not criticism on the video or DCS btw. Just mentioning it. To really test it you'd need Kerbal Space program and some mods. But for Kerbal players (almost!) hitting things in space is basic bread and butter anyway. But not with super slow (take that DCS!) missiles. Which is also why this is how you'd do it today. But tbf to the "technology of the time", space flight was well out of it's early stages by then. Which (i'm depending on Scott Manley here, for example the his video on the Nike-Hercules) ) allowed them to think about concepts based on precision, not scale. And politically rather juicy ideas like nukes for intercepting in orbit (or in the air!) were scrapped (and banned).
@creeperslayers6
@creeperslayers6 Ай бұрын
I wonder how a scenario would play out if an OPFOR force tried to send their own aircraft at these high-altitudes to intercept an ASAT F-15 and whatever air units are trying to protect that F-15
@xN1NJAshotsx
@xN1NJAshotsx Ай бұрын
Fire it early so it can lock on and maneuver while it still has air
@layneanderson9582
@layneanderson9582 29 күн бұрын
at that altitude the fins don't have air to course correct which means it has to be perfectly aligned since there is no directional thrusters on the missles.
@tedtomoyasu8438
@tedtomoyasu8438 Ай бұрын
Now that you have done the F-15 Anti Sat Missile scenario. How about the US Standard Missile Anti Satellite scenario off an Aegis cruiser?
@Wolfe351
@Wolfe351 Ай бұрын
F14 in TWS mode? yeah need a vectored thrust missile............ python5 with aim54 as the booster..............
@JulianDanzerHAL9001
@JulianDanzerHAL9001 Ай бұрын
now make it am od aircraft flying past at 16000 knots so its actually in orbit
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 Ай бұрын
F-15 is beast and that's why i love it.
@Shnazz999
@Shnazz999 Ай бұрын
This looks like a job for the US Space Force!
@Arturijo
@Arturijo Ай бұрын
Hey Cap, could you try a MiG-31 with a R-37 and a YF-12 with an Aim-47 against the satellites?
@knight5846
@knight5846 26 күн бұрын
“104-0 look out below I took out a satellite just for show”
@macekeeks3085
@macekeeks3085 Ай бұрын
Wonder if something like the mica ng could have worked with its dual pulse motor not sure how well the tvc would have worked
@gups4963
@gups4963 Ай бұрын
The raptor's natural opponent
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Biggest miss-match in history?
@user-kd2ij7te5v
@user-kd2ij7te5v Ай бұрын
Why not use the only sane platform - F104! You need a rocket for this job! 😮
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 Ай бұрын
Where will the -104 carry an 18ft, 2,000lb missile?
@terencyowens9491
@terencyowens9491 Ай бұрын
This... But with AWACS and data link support. Also, try using F22, F23 or even a B1 bomber.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Ok
@Slikx666
@Slikx666 Ай бұрын
Well you followed the scientific process and got a result and learnt more about DCS than you did before. I can't complain about that. 😀 Speaking of theory and doing, Cap how's the curtain pole doing?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Still there :)
@Slikx666
@Slikx666 Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers Yippee! 😆
@johnwycough1955
@johnwycough1955 Ай бұрын
Great video. Try the BoneR. Plenty of power and a spread of missles
@stevenashton1152
@stevenashton1152 Ай бұрын
Be cool to use a missile with thrust vectoring
@henryknepp
@henryknepp Ай бұрын
An SM-3 fired from a US navy ship shot down a satellite
@blakeparry1983
@blakeparry1983 7 күн бұрын
aim260 with its small rocket motor pulses to adjust direction (e.g. what spacecraft use) would probably keep it on target also no MIG31 and axe-heads?
@squireson
@squireson Ай бұрын
is 300,000 ft the maximum altitude modeled in DCS ? When did it start to exceed 120,000ft ?
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom Ай бұрын
Laughs in KSP/KSP2 is sad when I realize I don’t fighters or or missiles or weapons, true guidance/seekers. And all the fun stuff.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
We can;t seem to get anything much above 300,000ft. It changed a couple of years back? For the AIM-54.
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers no worries. My response, was the best of what it if? Haha, great videos otherwise. Everyone is limited by hard or software.
@Davros-vi4qg
@Davros-vi4qg Ай бұрын
B1 with THADD now that would be a sound and light show 🌶️
@oliverduke1173
@oliverduke1173 Ай бұрын
6:00 in 1994 the strategy map was the actual game.
@everypitchcounts4875
@everypitchcounts4875 Ай бұрын
Let's see a drone version of this mission
@resonance01
@resonance01 Ай бұрын
I know it's all for fun, but hearing Cap say I don't see why a Sidewinder couldn't do it shows he didn't take into account that the satellite would be travelling over the engagement zone at orbital velocities. But given the balloon couldn't hold altitude I don't think DCS could have handled simulating it travelling at those velocities either. Still a fun bit of content.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Yes that's a good comment.
@Will_Flynn
@Will_Flynn Ай бұрын
Red Storm Rising. Major Chang shot 3 down. 💪
@walldermatthew1
@walldermatthew1 Ай бұрын
F.15 with Pegasus ASAT
@joeeagle9531
@joeeagle9531 Ай бұрын
please try with Eurofighter and a Meteor 😉
@zacharyamatore1279
@zacharyamatore1279 Ай бұрын
can you stt lock it? or find it on the AWG9 with the tomcat?
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 Ай бұрын
What about having the sattelite moving at speed and not just downwards, or would that be just like the Darkstar intercept
@pabloottawa
@pabloottawa Ай бұрын
With conventional FOX3 air to air weapons this is physically impossible. Once the missile enters space, the control surfaces no longer have any air to push against ergo, no control. The only way to fix this is to add a powered gimbal to the rocket engine in order to control the missile in space.
@bodan1196
@bodan1196 Ай бұрын
"Fly on my monitor." Reminds me of a story written down by a pilot of n the Saab J-29 Tunnan (Flying Barrel). He was solo flying adversary in an exercise, were his task was to engage "incomming bombers". He was briefed that he should expect the then new fighter variant J-32B Lansen to be in the area. Flying, he caught a glance of something in the rear view mirror. Assuming that it was a J-32B, he banked and pulled, but no matter what he did, the 32 didn't move in the mirror, staying put on his six. He then realised that it was a fly, sitting on the mirror. After some cursing, he, as all little boys would in his situation, wondered how many G's the fly would be able to take before losing grip. Well beyond what the J-29 was allowed to pull, in peace time, it turned out...
@whousley
@whousley 29 күн бұрын
You should try it with a Starfighter.
@modernmountaineer
@modernmountaineer 27 күн бұрын
Start sooner and hit a sustained climb and then increase climb rate where your starting now so your speed will be much higher and give your missile greater speed and range. And use and use aim 120 d, pl 15, meteor, or r77 m or 1 even.(If you could use the f15 with aim 260 or mig 25/31 with r 37 at the highest balloon with nose on at release)
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom Ай бұрын
Well I mean we (US) did it decades ago in the Cold War with an F-15, for the first time, lol. And I’m sure we have an updated version.
@surters
@surters Ай бұрын
Even if there is no new one, how hard can it be to rebuild a old missile, granted all the components are a bit dated ...
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom Ай бұрын
@@surters true, I’m former military, USMC, I obviously have very limited knowledge the same as everyone else except who built this stuff, but even the poor ass USMC with really, really old shit had some pretty fancy and brand new, amazing stuff at the time I was in. My unit had the very first of now modern, to older flir systems, used in combat, we had the only few in existence, including the prototype that was sent to us. I joined in 05. Not really classified info, as they are all the standard or oldest type used now…with few exceptions. But we were the first to test and use in war, in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they were mind blowing at the time we got the only 3 in existence…and we mounted them to 60 plus yr old helos, granted they were heavily upgraded…and the most capable attack helos. And utility helicopters ever made. Still the best, in the form of the AH-1Z and UH-1Y the most modern, capable, proven and deadly airframe for CAS. Been doing it longer, as they are first ones, first turbine powered helo, the UH-1 line and the worlds first and oldest attack helicopter, and still serving, the AH-1 line, 1/4 of the airframes of the AH-1 and UH-1 are original airframes that first flew and fought in Vietnam, fully upgraded now approaching 80 years old from adoption. We could easily build new versions, that are insanely better, for a lower cost, maybe after inflation, and the required graft and greed fund is applied, about same cost to slightly higher, but would be far, far more capable. And they say the mig whatever, had the best climb record and time, yeah, only according to the Soviets, the rest of the world recognizes the F-15 as the record holder, an F-15 hit 92,000 and some change altitude in ballistic climb, granted nothing on it, max fuel, but no one else Carrie’s anything for attempted climb records. And has the highest altitude and highest speed that is verifiable, by an air breather, not just claimed with zero evidence. If you have an F-15 Lox tanks, an automated systems to use lox as needed, along with an aerial refueling, you could fly an F-15 into orbit, granted, you couldn’t reenter, as no heat shielding, and not enough fuel/lox left to slow enough to reenter atmosphere, but you could fly into space, with the right set up, which I find hilarious, obviously would need rcs thrusters for maneuvering and like they said, we are looking at strapping the SM line to fighters like the F-15….which is insane, and I love it.
@smugfrog8111
@smugfrog8111 Ай бұрын
Hitting a static target at that altitude is one thing. Now get it moving at around 17,500mph and hit it.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Fair comment.
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 Ай бұрын
What about using an AIM-260 seeing as how it uses an RCS system for control rather than fins?
@mrbfox1775
@mrbfox1775 Ай бұрын
Need to try the Russian missile with the terminal boost phase maybe?
@karbitgameing6921
@karbitgameing6921 Ай бұрын
Are you going to do a f4e tutorial series
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Probably. If you want that?
@sonar357
@sonar357 Ай бұрын
Went from "can we shoot down a satellite" to "can we shoot down a chinese balloon"
@Andrew_NJ
@Andrew_NJ Ай бұрын
Why did you not try the Raptor? Also is it possible to arm the SR-71?
@GlitchyGamers18
@GlitchyGamers18 Ай бұрын
Maybe redo this with the f15c and the aim260 since it has those lateral thrusters
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Our AIM-260 is hard limited to around 110k ft in DCS. Just a thing.
@zanimoniak4885
@zanimoniak4885 Ай бұрын
ED is working on a world map, and I hope that they will code it such that travel into space will be possible. DCS can simulate aircraft, why not expand to spacecraft
@johnaikema1055
@johnaikema1055 Ай бұрын
no typhoon? FOR SHAME!
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 Ай бұрын
orbital speed at even 300,000ft is 7.8km/s or about mach 23. I dont think DCS can even support something going that fast.
@MisterLindsay
@MisterLindsay Ай бұрын
I know you had issues with the mods in making this attempt, but presuming there were no compatibility issues, it would be interesting to see you try this with your AIM-260 and AWACS support.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Ай бұрын
Our AIM-260 is hard limited to around 110k ft in DCS. Just a thing.
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 Ай бұрын
Too bad you couldn't fit an SM-3 on the F-15C or EX. Anyone remember the "NF-104"? The Starfighter with the rocket engine in the base of the tail. It would be cool to see a MiG-21 set up the same way.
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker 23 күн бұрын
@timbaskett6299 *The Grumman F-14 could, as an AIM-161 Echo.* Ideal for test: YF-14B-30-GR SerNo 007 (BuNo 157986), fitted with dual General Electric YF120-GE-400 controlled bypass turbofans with extended afterburner barrels - the F120 will supercruise the Tomcat, but max 'burner is required for the test.
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