Could First Contact with Aliens Be Unsettling? with Author Trevor Williams

[@EventHorizonShow]

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[@YeahBass3k]

Probably would be shocked initially. Then extatic. And then, most likely just terrified

[@choonbox]

I would dedicate my LIFE to learn more about the other ones out there.

[@mardethkellerman1182]

People in the 1800s thought other beings lived on the moon, Mars, and Venus. They didn't go crazy with "fact" in their heads. We'd be fine.

[@TiGiPiT]

Don’t believe in god but would feel so blessed to have been alive to see it. Would feel like I was part of a more meaningful era of humanity than has ever existed.

[@burnedjay1]

not shocked kind of happy

[@joaovictorromaniello3616]

Let me say this: your channel deserves a lot more appreciation. I cannot thank you enough for this absolutely brilliant and free content. Keep up the incredible work, John. Greetings from Brazil

[@EventHorizonShow]

Thank you.

[@MarkLLynch]

Couldn't agree more. This channel is definitely one of my favourites.

[@alphacrusaders6535]

big facts

[@MarkLLynch]

@John Barber Weirdo's everywhere..

[@mattjack3983]

I swear i couldn't agree more! I've been saying this for a long time. This is seriously one of the best channels on KZbin. (My own opinion, of course..)

[@adamkey1934]

We're a fickle species. Honestly I reckon if we found evidence of alien life it would be huge news for a while. And then once we realized that they're too far to ever meet or communicate with meaningfully we'd go back to watching crap on tv, arguing with strangers on the internet and fighting over who gets the latest new phone first.

[@elernation5519]

Adam Key All that part at the end will continue happening while we find aliens

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

yes

[@smurfx]

we have a bunch of people on earth that cant even agree that the earth is round so i imagine a huge amount of people would just say it was fake news and refuse to believe it.

[@noneyobiz337]

Yes some people would go back to the normal mundane everyday grind that was life..... The rest of us will kick it into overdrive to create solutions to the issues of communication and distance in order to better our lives.

[@helio68]

KZbin list channels will post endless lists about the aliens and there will be channels created dedicated to speculating about the aliens

[@jerrybaker8597]

Earth: Omg an alien space ship Aliens: we are so frikin lost

[@krimsonhawk2355]

Aliens: "they're sodomizing Turkey's and stuffing them with bread! Quick! close your windows and fly by and hope they don't notice, wtf is wrong with this species!?"

[@MrFancyFingers]

Krimson Hawk Somebody’s ready for Thanksgiving…

[@AzogDefilerFromMordor]

@@krimsonhawk2355 somehow you assume they would fly over US lol. No offense intended ;)

[@joseph-socialist.bsky.social]

@@AzogDefilerFromMordor Yea because there are other countries besides America who would of thought lol.

[@SirTomFoolery]

@@joseph-socialist.bsky.social They could definitly fly over south america or canada, maybe even Alaska... The options are endless

[@TheGhostGuitars]

Simply put how we react as a whole will depend on one word: proximity. A radio signal from light years away would likely have no real long term change. Especially if the communication loop takes years or decades. However, if an alien contact was detected within our solar system and is inbound, then reaction will be more varied and extreme.

[@BlueGiant69202]

How long does it take to receive a reply from Alexa?

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Lance K Shimabukuro - It would also depend on the size of the fleet or the apparent intent of ET.

[@TheGhostGuitars]

@@TraditionalAnglican I believe that is covered by "more varied and extreme." If more than a single vessel was detected, then our reaction will be even more exacerbated, if its obviously hostile, I'd suspect we'd be seeing the best AND the worst possible behaviors out of us...

[@noneyobiz337]

This is hypothetical only. If aliens want is dead they will just hit us with a ballistic projectile going a good portion the speed of light. No one picks a fight with nuclear weapons. So if they are in the solar system its a good chance either they need us alive(harvest us) need our biosphere or are just plainly friendly. I cannot think of a valid reason to travel across the galaxy that is peaceful so we should keep alert.

[@user-gk3lu1gg9t]

A SETI signal, even hundreds of thousands of light years away can still be unsettling. Especially if the source has perfected intergalactic travel.

[@avjake]

One thing I feel is certain - If aliens have the technology to cross light years of space, they will not need anything we have.

[@Tabooza]

Beside this planet

[@D1craigRob]

For us to get to space we are going to be on tue verge of destroying our planet. Maybe they have destroyed theirs and ours was/is the best match to use as their new home?

[@mustnz998]

@@Tabooza There are millions of planets out there with similar builds to ours in this cluster alone. We're not even a big planet. It's like going to a level 1 dungeon as a level 999 player. We're so small and insignificant they won't care. More likely, they'll treat us like we treat the island tribes that don't know the rest of the world exists. We'll be protected, kept in a bubble to keep us from dying from new germs or being contaminated as a whole. We're probably an interesting proof of concept for evolution. Let nature take it's course. Either we survive long enough past the infancy of our species and become one of the big boys in the galaxy, or we die out and fade away. More likely we'd be entertainment. Like a zoo.

[@gamertardguardian1299]

@@mustnz998 Well we still don't know how many earth like planets are out there, its not just about size

[@Irishbeermonk]

Hopefully it's just out of pure curiosity they visit for. They can learn about where we came from and how life began on Earth. Intergalactic scientists.

[@Alexis-hx3yd]

People adapt and quickly, it is one of the defining traits of our species. There will no doubt be complete amazement, bewilderment, and wonder for a brief time; and then bills still need to be paid ,families still need to be raised, and the lawn still needs to be mowed.

[@Shatterverse]

Most likely scenario: Aliens: *Hoover up two huge gas planets* Humanity: Hey! You jerks gonna pay for that?

[@EventHorizonShow]

This is good.

[@AgentWaltonSimons]

Other humans: well, that sucked.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Well, a gas planet is a good gas station for your fusion-guzzler space craft :-)

[@frederickjohnpicarello1909]

Aliens: Let out the biggest & loudest fart in the solar system!.. On their way back out into deep space!

[@lsb2623]

The old dine & dash, chew & screw!

[@296jacqi]

Earth is so incredibly beautiful. How lucky we are to have this haven. 💗 🌍

[@dextrane715]

What blows my mind is the fact that without us, the earth and all of its diverse species will 100% die off. In a way, we are earths crowning achievement. We are the only species capable of technology and space travel. We are the only ones capable of saving earth and its biosphere from certain doom at the hands of the sun in 500mil years. We can collect the DNA of all other species and reproduce them on a different planet, we can theoretically move the planet away from the expanding sun into a new goldilocks zone, we can escape destruction and spread Earths biosphere and seed life around the universe. Earth created life, but without us its hard work will just die in half a billion years. We humans are its last attempt at survival. It risked a lot with our existence, it is gambling its own survival on us, in the hope that we can one day save it and its other "children"!

[@finsfan90]

@@dextrane715 Ive never quite thought about it in that manner before. Powerful comment...and 100% true.

[@KG-jb9df]

What are you talkin about humans suck we are ruining everything

[@suatustel746]

Think it over again, you're missing something!!!!!

[@jc441-i3q]

Yes, Earth is wonderful but I can't help but feel sad that it's the only really habitable planet we have in the solar system. Imagine if Venus and Mars tried harder at school - we would have 3 different planets filled with interesting plants and animals to discover and explore.

[@mikelfunderburk5912]

Happy Arthursday to all the fans and a huge thank you to the team at Event Horizon.

[@pandemik0]

It'd be existentially unsettling and blow my mind on so many levels.... Then I'd go to work as normal... Routine... I really don't think it would change much at all.

[@zoopdterdoobdter5743]

I agree. It'd be the most amazing moment in history...for about 15-minutes.

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

yeah the movies that show massive global unrest from the revelation of aliens existing is really weird and exaggerated. It just never seemed human while I watched it as a child.

[@toonvank6165]

Evan Koch with our current understanding of how mind bogglingly huge the observable universe is, it is indeed a terrifying thought to think life would be some sort of freak accident of nature that hasn’t happened to any other planet. I feel like a lot of people alive today already accept the idea of extraterrestrial life as logically sound, to some degree. I wonder if people would really freak out, or just shrug and say they knew all along

[@XxPunxunite]

@Evan Koch I think Arthur C. Clarke said the quote you mentioned. I definitely agree with you statement though! Also Michiko Kaku is fascinating to listen to as well

[@derp195]

Pretty much. Nobody cares, especially if it doesn't affect their daily lives. I mean, we have UFO footage from the US Navy, which they confirmed to be legitimate, and... nobody cares. Most people don't even know that the Navy actually confirmed the authenticity of a UFO tape.

[@TheGunmanChannel]

Thanks again for all the awesome vids John.

[@jackd1582]

You're welcome

[@Prof.Megamind.thinks.about.it.]

@@jackd1582 .😎 Space-pundits , You've got to wonder why any alifrenz located thousands of lightyears away would bother to make the major effort to beam a powerful radio-laser at a no-tech rock in space , for hundreds of years . I can however , see an infestation of runaway-A.I.(Reapers) setting up such systems . This to alert it whenever an intelligent biological infestation arose in it's domain , and needed to be sterilized . *To examine some of the propulsion- system architectures that such machines might use to transport their all-consuming "grey-goo" across the deep of interstellar space, read my post at : quora.com/How-long-will-it-take-to-achieve-space-travel-to-other-parts-of-the-universe/

[@reallyryan_]

This is why I look forward to Thursdays, I've never missed an episode yet! I love this content. 😁

[@s1050]

I just hope we have first contact in my lifetime no matter the end result

[@kwal5131]

Ice man have you ever considered whether that has already happened, but is being kept from us because our military/government don’t know much about their origin or their intentions therefore refrain from breaking the information ??

[@kwal5131]

James Fox - Out of the blue Mark McCandlish - Fluxliner Cmdr. David Fravor - Nimitz encounters. Bob Lazar - Area 51. Rendlesham Forest incident. Roswell incident. Phoenix lights incident. Let me know once you’ve done some ‘basic’ research. Research on cases with credible evidence which SETI refuse to consider, but would rather wait on ‘radio contact’ to prove ET existence

[@JTCodel]

Other than the end result being our demise, of course. Lol, just saying.

[@youtubisashoe]

I always asked myself the following hypothetical question and my answer has kinda changed over my lifetime, I was wondering if a being offered me answers to all my questions about origin of everything and the universe/multiverse itself in exchange for my life ending right after I heard the answer if I would go for it or not loll

[@youtubisashoe]

@@kosmique loll, make sure you got your cellphone recording in HD next time

[@colonelgraff9198]

Last time I was this early First Contact was still in the theatres

[@OmegaWolf747]

My inner child hopes we meet someone like the Vulcans our first time. I know they won't look like them, but I hope they're benevolent.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic interview, JMG! Thanks a lot! 😃 It was pretty inspiring!

[@allhumansarejusthuman.5776]

16:30 discussing the shock and awe of the new technology when the Spaniards came to the America's. Dont give into shoddy history; the Spaniards where in just as much shock and awe and the alternative advancements the natives had, poisonous plants rendered edible; cloth that stopped spears and arrows better then steel and plants so well bred they provided the needle and thread all in one just to name a few

[@EventHorizonShow]

Would a history episode be something you’d enjoy?

[@allhumansarejusthuman.5776]

@@EventHorizonShow if it ties into futurism; and speculating about the hurdles ahead absolutely!

[@tyleraxam344]

Event Horizon yes

[@raygo3802]

Event Horizon I remember you did one. Would like to see more on that basis of tying the history to the futurism to come!

[@damianp7313]

Good point . But in the end one civilization nearly whipped out the other

[@AlohaMilton]

I would gloat about it. Not that it is a good reaction for any situation, but I know I would post some 'told you so' type comments.

[@waqidj]

AlohaMilton haha :)

[@arsemyth8920]

I know in the UK, even if it's a crisis, we just sit around forwarding joke videos about said crisis on WhatsApp. And then we drink our way through it

[@kwal5131]

jake Smith lol sounds about right 🇬🇧

[@tomallen5887]

Cheers to that lol🙌

[@davidthomas9190]

Or smoke 😤😊

[@patrickbush9526]

If they come I hope they have weed because I'm just about out

[@animationandnews9610]

Me too!

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Hands you a dab. Welcome to enlightenment my friend. All praise 710.

[@deku812]

Missed opportunity with respect to first contact with the Spaniards. Discussion started going into the geopolitical impact but got cut short , but essentially, when first contact was made, the Aztec empire dominated the region. The reactions of the smaller states was to ally themselves with the Spaniards and successfully overthrew the aztec hegemony. That sort of self interested machiavellian reaction would be interesting to explore in a sci-fi book

[@EventHorizonShow]

Would you watch an episode with JMG and a knowledgeable guest discussing this?

[@gimzod76]

I did have the rough idea written down for a first contact where the Un team is mudured in an Islamic suicide bombing leaving a small group of British scientists and military personnel to handle first contract Thankfully the aliens are part of an interstellar commonwealth sothe UK ends up being placed in charge of earth on behalf of the galaxy commonwealth

[@deku812]

@@EventHorizonShow Yes! The aztec collapse is a truly fascinating story.

[@tonyk4615]

I love the effort you put into the intros. You don’t treat them as a throw away like most content developers. Just one of the many things that makes you among the best!

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Thanks and we definitely make a point to do those right. It's easier than you might think though, since the subject matter of the interview sets the stage for the intro. Not hard to come up with an intro talking with guests like these :)

[@silvadelshaladin]

I don't think there is any more rude method of entering the solar system than taking out the best hydrogen resources of said solar system upon entry.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Very rude. And great book.

[@victorcoleiro4298]

""An unknown entity destroys Pluto" Got to be Neil DeGrasse Tyson

[@HardRockMiner]

The Chime dish in British Columbia is picking up a FRB that signals for 4 days and goes quiet for 16. That's a story for the future

[@EventHorizonShow]

The paper is still under embargo, but we will having someone on the show soon about it.

[@HardRockMiner]

@@EventHorizonShow Of course you are! This channel is ON THE BALL.

[@swissbiggy]

My good friend Anton Petrov made a very interesting KZbin video about this three days ago. Check it out if you want. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6OtiGqXf8aIjrs

[@llanorick]

HardRockMiner It’s one of those things that make you think, “aliens?”

[@HardRockMiner]

@@llanorick - No I don't automatically think that. I'm not 7. I think maybe it's a FRB that possibly is orbiting something else which blocks its signal completely at certain times. I don't think its aliens until I see it for sure. I think we might be alone out here at this point in time. There may of been beings before us, and there will probably be beings after us, but for now, it's just us.

[@bigronnie9629]

Just read Eternal Shadow and cannot recommend it enough. Fans of Greg Bear will LOVE this story

[@EventHorizonShow]

It’s a highly enjoyable book.

[@colixo5731]

Personally I believe it would be very beneficial for our species even to discover alien life, let alone intelligence. A forced change in perception that the world likely needs to counter people's short-sightedness & regressive tendencies which cause so many issues. That's not to say it wouldn't face resistance, but the world needs to adapt long term or ignorance and aggression will win out. Focus on our future as opposed to obsession with our past. Just my two cents.

[@nightsblackagents]

I’ve really been enjoying this channel, great content. Another great episode too :) Getting lots of ideas for TTRPG scenarios.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Feel free to tell us what you come up with! Glad you’re enjoying the channel.

[@Xune2000]

I wonder what the effects of concentrating the mass of Pluto, Neptune and Uranus into a vessel with it's own planet sized mass would have on the orbit of the rest of the planets of our solar system? Is this something that's addressed in the book or are the planets "on rails", unaffected by this shifting mass?

[@snickle1980]

I just wrote the exact same question. I imagine our orbit would slowly drift inward ...which would likely be well outside of our habitable zone. Game over at that point. I need confirmation though.

[@xanth987]

We know about the turbulence generated at the point when a jet takes off from the runway. And we know about a ship plowing through water versus a hovercraft. So given that a giant hunk of space ship traveling at x speed could affect some planets depending on where they are in relation to the object. Some moons could experience a change. We could see a definite change in some areas where the asteroid belts are. If wake turbulence is what we use in water and air, is the phrase for space called gravitational distortions?

[@EksaStelmere]

Ah, yes. I look forward to the day we discover the proof of extraterrestrial life in the form of a space hulk floating into our solar system like Oumuamua on steroids.

[@EventHorizonShow]

As do we.

[@AmnAker]

Hopefully no green skins... or worse!

[@frankschneider6156]

But only if their shields are down, the ship doesn't have the shape of a cube, the "species" is not called "Berserker" and their first contact message to us is not "Die alien scum".

[@joekng9924]

Just because NASA said that Omemanau was a rock... Maybe it wasn't.

[@PantsuMann]

Better hide all your jeans then.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

27:15 - Star Trek: The Original Series - Season 2, Episode 6 - “The Doomsday Machine”.

[@nataliemiller8080]

correct!

[@dawtip1673]

Imagine what if there was a galactic empire or even a universal government which we don't know of yet because we're not deemed worthy by such advanced beings. But once we reach a certain point we would be invited by them to join their galactic federation but must also follow a set of rules, like not to disturb other primitive civilizations and counteracting against bigger threats in the universe and so on.

[@ohioplayer-bl9em]

We missed our chance. peak human was probably 1995-2001. Its been a clown world since. Its going to get much worse.

[@fydstar]

Not knowing this book, I wonder how much interstellar space would you have to travel through to gather enough material equivalent to uranus and neptune?

[@MattsCollection]

If they have a book entitled "To Serve Man"...I'd be pretty wary of their intentions!

[@MattsCollection]

@Adrumpf Twittler Twilight Zone.

[@RunGunBeatEmUp]

Thanks for all your videos and guests. When life seems dull and repetitive your videos bring me awe and wonder.

[@sinisterminister6478]

The opossum is building a rocket, that's freaknig hilarious.

[@EventHorizonShow]

OpossumX

[@sinisterminister6478]

@@EventHorizonShow Is it Elon Opossum or Opossum Musk?

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@sinisterminister6478 Opossum Prime

[@alanheadrick7997]

He was building I think a FraudX in a junk yard. This guy is a copycat and scam artist.

[@MCsCreations]

His book sounds pretty interesting! It remembers me of an episode from Star Trek OS! 😃 (Just starting to watch yet!)

[@bhbluebird]

Unsettling would be an understatement. Civilization would freak out. Even so, I hope it happens before I die.

[@zebonautsmith1541]

I expect any aliens who might venture near; would be at the very least; polite and respectful of our civilization; precisely because they are not dummies.

[@TheSwordofra]

Smart and highly socially advanced people can still be very evil. The smart aliens might politely and very efficiently fuck our civilization out of existence. You know, because they have seen what happens on planets like ours before, we do not seem to care about our only viable biosphere, why should they?

[@MJ-zo5gb]

TheSwordOfRa well said. There is no reason to believe they would have empathy or put any value on life (human chemical emotions) other than themselves. They may destroy us Immediately to prevent future Threats or competition for resources. People that want aliens to be real must be optimistic because Its the equivalent of wishing for a monster under your bed without the slightest bit of evidence that it won’t instantly devour you.

[@pyrolopez854]

That's mentioned you also have to keep in mind that there are things in biology that tells is otherwise that we most likely will not encounter a bean that is similar to us in every way shape or form they themselves might interpret our chemical interactions within our own bodies as hostile for all we know we don't know how other beings are other civilizations out there

[@wildone9561]

@@pyrolopez854 The inhabitants of the Entire Milkyway Galaxy, Are Humans an Human Hybrids.

[@roberthanleytortora7405]

If 3 planets got blown up, even farther away ones, wouldn't that change the orbit of everything else in the solar system, including Earth? I don't see how it wouldn't. Please explain

[@allhumansarejusthuman.5776]

Yes it would. But not terribly significantly earths orbit is mostly dictated by the sun. It would be something interesting to model the weather pattern differences without the outer planets tug on earth

[@GreenSmokeRingz]

Not to mention the countless asteroids that would rain down upon us if the gas giants were destroyed as they wouldn’t be there to protect us and hoover them up.

[@stricknine6130]

Great interview. The Dooms Day Machine is one if my favorite Star Trek Episodes. I really enjoyed hearing this interview. Thanks!

[@frontdesk9970]

as scared as i am of first contact i really what it to happen. it would change the way the whole world think. and we need a change

[@bodeetemadi6699]

by far n away by favourite space channel, well produced. informative and inspiring.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Thank you very much. Great to see this.

[@Crumphorn]

My god, you always deliver quality, thoughtful, ingenious discussions. Why aren't you more famous?

[@JAB-bc9uv]

And he has a nice voice.

[@vagatronics]

7:00 i dont think so, we already know aliens exist.

[@lastword8783]

Favorite fermi paradox explanation: Exploring the universe is overrated. The real mindfuck, and a rabbit hole that intelligent species get lost in, is creating artificial realities.

[@TheSwordofra]

Why artificial? The reality we are in now might have been created this way, yet we refer to it as natural. The aliens could literally be creating other more pleasing realities that form part of nature as seen from a multiverse angle. Other realities that we might even be able to access and explore some day, imagine that. Assuming we don't poison or blow ourselves up first.

[@lastword8783]

TheSwordOfRa theyre still artificial. There is a difference between speculating about our reality and a reality thats knowingly created for the specific purpose of enjoyment.

[@NajwaLaylah]

@@TheSwordofra Artificial because it's a work of art & artifice.

[@OneCut1Slash]

What would be scary is receiving an actual video in a signal we intercept. Can you imagine seeing a 6 second alien news clip of an alien war?

[@pumpuppthevolume]

or alien tiktok

[@ToBeAloneUK]

What people expect: We found Greys, they exist and want to sign a peace treaty with us What is the most likely situation: We found bateria on Titan XD XD XD XD

[@niklasmolen4753]

A little over a hundred years ago, a newspaper organized a competition about who could get in touch with aliens. But Mars was not included because it was considered too easy.

[@geoffhalsey2184]

The military would love it. Huge increase in their budget, research and overall importance.

[@calladioiniaferstar]

Another amazing video by this incredible KZbinr

[@rikosaikawa9024]

They would clearly want more anime

[@EventHorizonShow]

Acceptable response.

[@MCR1565]

I’m a new subscriber and I have to say I really appreciate your work! Many thanks! 🙏💖🙏

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

It's a cookbook!!!

[@luizrafael7939]

Ok, I disagree with that old point that says: 'any sufficient advanced technology will appear to be as magic....' It can be possible that humans in age of hunter and gatherer would see an iPhone as magic, but I strongly disagree that Incas saw Spaniards as magic people. Sure, Aztecs at first saw them as gods, but it was briefly. Heck, I'm pretty convinced that even dogs knows that people going inside a car are not being eaten by them... So, just to continue my point, today we have a pretty good understanding of the universe, we don't even know if there is a limit to technology, but even if there isn't, I'm sure that we would recognise future technology civilization not as magic ones and even would have a pretty good guess on how that 'blue flying 1cm ball' can record and play images....

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Luiz Rafael - Star Trek style transporters, food replicators & FTL travel & subspace communications would look like magic to many who saw them in action.

[@luizrafael7939]

@@TraditionalAnglican the mere fact that you know already how to call those things say to me that no, it wouldn't look like magic.

[@Morsa.B.Alto1]

Regardless of the great content of the video, I just want to say that the opening theme and visuals are boss af. 👌 Thank you for the fascinating videos.

[@wolmntn]

These videos are great. Love listening to them while outside looking at the stars.

[@davidtheiss7108]

What makes it so frightening is what we do not know. Would the alien species be malevolent or not? Would they even want to communicate with us? They may just want to be left alone. Would they perceive US as a threat? So many different scenarios that it's hard to fathom what might happen or how we would react.

[@kingtomthebomb1639]

We would be at their mercy. There is no sense in understanding their motive just hope they don't wanna kill us

[@shazanali692]

With the trillions of years left in this universe and with the past 13 .8 billion years, what are the chances that you and me have councious thought at this moment in time, at the birth of the information age and the new understanding that our reality might just be information bits, i just wonder 200 to 300 years from today and the humans looking back and thining wow this is where the information era started

[@willinwoods]

I, for one, welcome our new, opossum overlords.

[@thrust_fpv]

I think if an alien life that can traverse intergalactic space suddenly appeared in our back yard, humans would become extinct from vomiting and shiting themself to death.

[@Seshins]

Awesome. I've bought the book Trevor! Looking forward to cracking in to it.

[@MrGmanDan]

Love the intro with the milkyway spinning overhead! Beautiful imagery. Great video!

[@dr.williamkallfelz8540]

As always, your channel delivers! Why settle for less than hard sci fi? Regarding Trevor Williams's interview, I also generally side with a variant of the Zoo Hypothesis, in answer to the FP. However, I think it also works in both directions--recall your recent interview with Prof. Jason Wright on the difficulties of finding technosignatures past and present (whether terrestrial, or of ETI origin). In short, the methodological issues are perplexing and formidable. E.g., consider a scenario involving an advanced ETI on a KS (Kardashev Scale) level 2.0 or higher. (Recall Dr. David Kipping's Bayesian analysis of civilization lifetimes, as a refinement of the Drake Equation, recently posted in his Cool Worlds channel, in which he deduces that the odds are that detectable ETI civilizations are far more advanced than ours). We're talking about a civilization which (ceteris paribus) is at least several millennia ahead of our current stage (KS estimates--keep in mind that the scale is logarithmic--place 21st cent. humanity ~ 0.3-0.7). Aside from mega structures like Dyson Spheres, etc., they've long ago transcended their own biology and chances are have been able to manipulate space-time-matter -energy down to the quantum topological level. To us Earthlings such a civilization may be hiding in plain sight, insofar as I would venture to bet that a colony of amoebas lack the cognitive architecture to even detect a human presence examining them in a petri dish, let alone interacting with them. Of course by the time you get to KS3 levels and higher you're talking about engineering capacities that not only involve galactic but also potentially super cluster scales. (Makes you wonder about the Bootes Void, doesn't it?) But to dial it back down to KS1 civilizations, EVEN THEN the challenges of establishing some kind of a communication line with them would be daunting, even if they sincerely wanted to communicate with us. (To use an analogy: macrobiologists are only scratching the surface in terms of accessing, let alone meaningfully interacting with, the rich and complex consciousnesses of our kindred mammalian species whether they are elephants, dolphins, crows, canines, etc.)

[@raydavison4288]

A sufficiently advanced species would also be far ahead of us in communication skills. I am leary of comparisons of humans as amoebas or ants relative to super advanced intelligences.

[@iainmair485]

I think Earth is the “North Sentinel Island” of the universe.

[@DeepRightRecords]

Underrated comment 😂

[@mikedrop4421]

Wait.. This has nothing to do with Oumuamua. What's going on around here?

[@MIck-M]

That always reminds me of the cows in Italy :-D

[@brenton2561]

ITS A COVERUP!!😃

[@mikedrop4421]

@@MIck-M When a rock from deep space whizzes right past ya face that amooa-mooa

[@lsb2623]

@@MIck-M Oh, moo, ah! Moo... ah!

[@professorpancakes6545]

Mick M that's a good one!

[@gaeldesmontagnesnoires]

Dude... the score 🎵takes me there✨

[@laurachapple6795]

Uh oh, the possums already made contact without us. Now the aliens think *they're* the masters of the planet.

[@zapfanzapfan]

I think the aliens would assume that dogs are in charge since we pick up their poop... :-)

[@mikejones-vd3fg]

@@zapfanzapfan What if they dont care who the dominant species is and have different criteria for what intelligent life they want to or can even communicate with? Maybe they see their long lost relatives in another species and decide to talk to them. Maybe on their planets homonid type animals died off and another pararralel species evolved into space traveling creatures and seeing us is like us watching planet of the apes. And theyd be biased to help out another species. Its all possible but in the end i think it'll be stranger than the fiction we can come up with.

[@zapfanzapfan]

I borrowed that joke from Jerry Seinfeld.

[@p.bamygdala2139]

I bet the research data that Trevor gathered on psychology of first contact would make an exceptional non-fiction book!

[@michaelrexrode3759]

No. It would be "An alien civilization discovers US", not the other way around.

[@zenokarlsbach4292]

the US was discovered long time ago, (by Indians from Asia) so the story goes.

[@Pacer...]

This is superb content, up to date, and keeping it real, shout out to event horizon. You'll learn more from this channel than any thing else on KZbin.

[@frankschneider6156]

Well this channel is of course great, but if you want to really learn something, go to PBS Spacetime or Mathologer. The Fermilab channel ain't bad either, but is on a much much lower level, than PBS Spacetime

[@thedocklighter]

I question whether aliens would be safe contacting humans.

[@waqidj]

The Docklighter especially if they just arrive and did not warn or try to communicate. If they can fly across the solar system they can find a way to communicate. I would be scared. Love that new show war of the worlds on Sundays. Watch it. Kinda what we would fear if it came true.

[@kylekissack4633]

It would be extremely dangerous... But they would understand most of the risks I would imagine..they wouldn't just land without studying us for centuries

[@k-chill8428]

Love your channel but surprised the 1938 radio play of HG Wells' War of the Worlds wasn't mentioned. That was a good indication of public reaction to news of the first contact, even if mistaken.

[@NajwaLaylah]

Forget the planet-eater from Star Trek (IIRC) and the Death Star from Star Wars-- I'm dreading the Vogon Constructor fleet.

[@decam5329]

Stock up on the beer and salty snacks.

[@rootbeer4888]

Always stimulating content. Thank you.

[@bratwizard]

MUSIC SWELLS Wakes Up the Whole House -- I love your channel, but when you do those swells in the beginning, it gets LOUD!

[@zenokarlsbach4292]

nothing as loud as the wow signal, their last attempt and still we never got the message. GREAT IMAGES B.T.W.THANK YOU.

[@bratwizard]

@@zenokarlsbach4292 LOL

[@bratwizard]

@@zenokarlsbach4292 Definitely agreed about the images!

[@waqidj]

I’m surprised you only have 100k subscribers and not ten million. It’ll come keep up the good work thanks John!

[@TuneintoLearning]

First alien I see, I'll do my best to be a ship mate, because I want to explore the stars.

[@StarGazerJim]

Be sure to pack a towel.

[@pyrolopez854]

@@StarGazerJim oh my God I almost forgot about that hitchhiking guide LOL

[@unknownbeing2089]

Lol im going to join too

[@megret1808]

2016 movie, “Arrival.” Even the concept of time becomes flexible

[@gson6867]

First contact happened a very long time ago.

[@gson6867]

matt white Ask the us government, us navy , and do some research before the smart arse comment

[@tomsytkowski3745]

@@gson6867 The Nimitz encounter in 2004

[@gson6867]

Tom Sytkowski bang on bro

[@TheChadavis33]

You guys really need to do a episode on the TIc Tac and all the US Military disclosures on their contact with the objects

[@alanheadrick7997]

First thing would be establish a line of credit with them.

[@EventHorizonShow]

How much energy and minerals do we need to trade to make this happen.

[@deathsheadknight2137]

​@@EventHorizonShow offer up earth-intersecting asteroids and comets, mercury, certain moons, etc.

[@bullroarer-took]

John literally said "for Khorne's sake." BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[@Dragrath1]

Are we going to address how impossible it would be to destroy Pluto Uranus and Neptune? I mean Pluto and other plutinos are in a 2:3 resonance with Neptune which prevents them from ever being closer than 1/4 the circumference of Neptune's orbit around the Sun, so by the time that it could destroy both it would have already destroyed all of the other planets... or left the inner solar system. I don't get how someone can do a hard sci-fi novel and miss such an important detail. >_< Plus the amount of energy it would take to destroy an ice giant planet (As Uranus and Neptune are ice giants not gas giants) even for a technologically advanced civilization is absurd, as in an astrophysical or stellar energy levels or more like Nicoll Dyson beam or something powered by a natural or Kugelblitz black hole, Neutron Star or White Dwarf. Otherwise it would take thousands or more years to dismantle a planet like Neptune as it is F***ing huge. Regarding the arrival of the Spanish another often missed impact was the climate as the medieval warm period resulted in severe mega-droughts across North America. Prolonged droughts seem to have played a role in the situation. Fermi paradox wise I suspect no one intelligent is nearby and it may be for good reason. We now know our evolution has been greatly influences by proximity to the local spiral arm and the so called Radcliffe wave which has been driving high mass star formation and nearby supernovae including a least one within a few hundred light years 2.6 Ma. On Earth it seems to have driven climatic changes that ultimately may have set the fire based ecology needed to put us on a trajectory towards technology but beyond the safety of our protective atmosphere it may have purged up and rising civilizations. We have't even left the hot ionized gas that radiates in the X ray part of the spectrum. On a related horrifying note since the strongest Magnetar starquakes/glitches from the opposite side of the galaxy ave a similar effect on Earth's environment compared to weather from the Sun. The most powerful eruption event known in our galaxy came from the Magnetar SGR 1806-20, 50,000 light years away arrived on December 27, 2004 had enough energy to ionize the Earths upper atmosphere and compress our magnetosphere. What effect would a Magnetar in our side of the galaxy have on Earth? Or worse in the solar system beyond Earth's magnetosphere and atmosphere? A horrifying scenario I have been thinking about ever since I read about Betelgeuse having abnormally strong magnetic fields for a red Supergiant which some scientists speculate could be the result of a stellar Merger, and some other research last year has suggested stellar mergers might be what is needed to make a Magnetar. So what if Betelgeuse becomes a Magnetar? Such a glitch/starquake from a newborn Magnetar 640 light years away would be absolutely horrifying perhaps eliminating anyone that has left the safety of a planet. I can't even be sure any life could survive so close at the very least you would be talking mass extinction level outbursts....

[@razeezar]

This is the big problem I have with sci-fi. On one hand it instills wonder and serves as inspiration for would-be scientists. On the other hand there are so many sci-fi plot devices that become more silly the more an individual (or humanity as a whole) learns.

[@tristanbackup2536]

I would jump for joy & message a person I knew from school, told you so.

[@deadvirgo]

Let's go!

[@jensemannolte8924]

0:15-0:19 and i would jump with joy for the next half hour because im so happy thats the only way getting rid of that extra energy

[@paulomiguel6484]

Humans still remain traumatized from their last contact, I doubt more contact would even be registered.

[@slcarsuk]

Which contact is that . When did it happen

[@elernation5519]

Villainous foreigner it never happened unless Paulo means when humans went to America but those weren’t aliens that Europeans discovered they were other humans

[@paulomiguel6484]

We have religions that seem concerned with supernatural beings, religion and the belief in supernatural beings happen when there is a contact. Without contact there is tendency for internal channeling and magic creation rather than dependence on external beings.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@paulomiguel6484 the Thor movies r not a documentary u know ...when imagination and ignorance happens religions happen.... show me an alien claiming to be Hanuman or Hades or a pixie or whatever and then we can talk

[@happyhammer1]

Great episode. Thanks.

[@robweissman5952]

If aliens came here.. They'd think we were a bunch of dorks.. 🤓👈👽 Except for me aaaand you, of course.. We're cool. 😎 😎👍

[@jacksavage4098]

Book seems like a take on a Star Trek movie where a machine civilization returns to Earth after encountering a Earth probe. Should be a interesting book.

[@anonymousjoker946]

They have been visiting us for millions of years

[@EventHorizonShow]

Well ask if they’d like some coffee? Be a good host.

[@TheSwordofra]

Lovely comforting idea. Present some solid evidence of this claim and I will be there with you.

[@StarGazerJim]

As is evidenced by all of the alien landing pads, space junk, their radar signal cruising thru our solar system, the alien corpse that was inadvertently left behind. Oh wait, we have none of those things do we? With the vast number of stars in the universe it seems perfectly reasonable to believe there is other life out there. But there is zero evidence to show that any of that life has ever visited earth.

[@lsb2623]

This Anon Joker is a fool. There is only one Joker! INDIAN JOKAR !!!

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

Great job, this video was really nicely done

[@ianreany3486]

“Could first contact with aliens be unsettling? Ancient astronaut theorists say yes!”

[@mingonmongo1]

When you consider the technology in a discarded battery, spent nuclear fuel rod, or just an old 8 track tape, even alien 'trash' would be extremely valuable and sought after by different gubmints.

[@johnnyutah4584]

JMG !!!

[@zrebbesh]

Aliens: We are here to harvest all the Klee of this world for our own use. Humans: Wait, that sounds bad. What exactly is... Aliens: Irrelevant. Your consent is not required. Four years later, after extensive... something or other that doesn't have any detectable effects ... the Aliens depart, with all the Earth's Klee. Humans spend decades trying to figure out what the heck Klee is and how (and why!) they harvested it.

[@magnusrutger8863]

Shit, look at the panic over CV. Can you imagine aliens?

[@Sam-pn2kc]

Toilets paper would be gone

[@hansturpyn5455]

Wise man. That was a good episode. Thanks i enjoyed it.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Thank you Hans!