Could I ACTUALLY turn PRO? Here's what the science says...

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tristantakevideo

tristantakevideo

Күн бұрын

How does my cycling performance compare to the best riders in the world? I did a range of tests with WorldTour performance coach for team Bora-Hansgrohe, John Wakefield, at the Science To Sport laboratory in Girona, Spain to find out...
A very big thank you to John for his time in making this video happen, and also to Darrel Fitzgerald for filming all the additional footage used in this vlog.
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00:00 Intro
02:05 Explanation of the tests
05:35 Body fat %
06:58 TEST 1: lactate accumulation
07:59 Findings from test 1
13:45 Explanation of test 2
15:51 TEST 2: vo2 max and peak power
18:22 Findings from test 2
22:55 Final thoughts
This ride was filmed at the Science 2 Sport lab on Carrer Nou in Girona, Catalunya, Spain; a cycling mecca that has been home to many professional cyclists including Ben O'Connor, Jack Haig, Esteban Chaves, Ryan Mullen, George Bennett, James Knox, Dorian Godon, Jay Vine, and at one point George Hincappie, Lance Armstrong and Tyler Hamilton. Girona is used for training for races such as the Tour de France, Volta Catalunya, Vuelta Espana, Paris-Nice, Giro d'Italia and more. Teams such as INEOS-Grenadiers, Israel-Premier Tech Pro Cycling, Human Powered Health, Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl Team, UAE Team Emirates and others use Girona for team training camps and rider testing.

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@DavidK140
@DavidK140 Жыл бұрын
Great video mate , super interesting and informative ! Look forward to more coaching content
@Greg.Sutton
@Greg.Sutton Жыл бұрын
Right up my street this video. Thanks. Look forward to seeing your training journey.
@ccamire
@ccamire Жыл бұрын
Love your work and great video. Very to the point and learning a lot from all the questions.
@onlyonecjb001
@onlyonecjb001 Жыл бұрын
Another great video and insight Tristan. Tests looked savage. It will be interesting to see how you improve with John's coaching.
@neilcockings8967
@neilcockings8967 Жыл бұрын
Great video, no getting bored which so often happens on this type of video. Whole content interestingly presented, your stats insane, well done.
@fhowland
@fhowland Жыл бұрын
Your bike fit and pedaling look perfect! Very fluid and smooth.
@justinafrika7860
@justinafrika7860 Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed John’s insights and empirical rigour and also the bants between all y’all.
@antoniocasablancasvilanova2207
@antoniocasablancasvilanova2207 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting & informative. Maybe not Pro Tour (o casi!) but you keep the sport fun, motivating and down to earth. Gracias!
@Oricottage
@Oricottage Жыл бұрын
Great video Tristan, very insightful 👌
@rosssanelli
@rosssanelli Жыл бұрын
Tristan - great to get a plain English explanation in the science and more importantly what is specifically required to improve areas of weakness
@antspage
@antspage Жыл бұрын
congrats on the race results! obviously the testing and training package is paying off
@lorenzoschofer6070
@lorenzoschofer6070 Жыл бұрын
Another ripper video mate. You certainly are the benchmark when it comes to cycling content in the KZbin space. Absolutely loved getting some of John’s wisdom over the last couple of videos. Keep up the awesome work
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! 🙏🏼
@kimwrinkle100
@kimwrinkle100 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Very informative!
@Richz2
@Richz2 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching this one! And why is it when you are on the point of total exhaustion and gasping for life, everyone else is smiling and laughing!!! Seriously well done and chapeau for telling us your numbers, so many don’t for some reason. Hopefully you will document your training.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate! Always interesting seeing people hide their numbers. I understand the feeling of not wanting to be “judged” or not wanting to “give away” some secret info..but I find the talk around numbers interesting. Especially seeing what some guys are able to do with their numbers. As John says, there’s more to riding and racing than just what you can push through a power meter. More videos with John to come for sure. 🙏🏼
@chuckfrizzell8668
@chuckfrizzell8668 Жыл бұрын
Great video - thank you for sharing!
@Lemond75
@Lemond75 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Tristan, and hope to see some more videos featuring John and training related content 👍
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Let me know if there’s anything specific you’d like to hear from John..got a few videos lined up but more than happy to integrate subscriber questions. 🙏🏼
@_________4292
@_________4292 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Tristan result and congratulations on winning the race
@PedroGonzalez-ef3zv
@PedroGonzalez-ef3zv 11 ай бұрын
Really good video, nice detailed information
@danniboishufflerz
@danniboishufflerz Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video and new to the channel. Ive recently picked up cycling and would love to know your take + hear from the pros on figuring out what type of cyclist you are eg would I be more suited to sprinting, climbing or grinding. Keep it up
@maniastrat
@maniastrat Жыл бұрын
Wow that was brutal! Good job Tristan & great numbers. 😉
@judd7699
@judd7699 Жыл бұрын
Cracking video Tristan .. you went deep 😳🕺👏👏
@carlosroy7984
@carlosroy7984 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!
@n22pdf
@n22pdf Жыл бұрын
Wow awesome vid Tristan.. great channel always something worth a watch.. very interesting 👍🤩❤️‍🔥🚴🏅👏
@kanst22
@kanst22 Жыл бұрын
On the indoor vs outdoor question, I wonder if riding style plays into it. Getting out of the saddle is super awkward on an indoor trainer. Especially the ones with a fixed back end that don't rock. If you're a guy who likes to stand up at high power, the indoor trainer kind of ruins that.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is what I have a hard time with indoors..my riding style is definitely a mix of in the saddle and out of the saddle, and part of why I dislike the trainer so much is that inability to replicate my outdoors riding style while on it. Hopefully John and I can put together a video about outdoor testing to give a more well-rounded perspective.
@neilmckenna236
@neilmckenna236 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very interesting 👍
@swites
@swites Жыл бұрын
You guys have a great rapport and look like you'll work well together :) Man those were impressive results! Was expecting them to be reasonably high, but not quite that high. 75 V02 max! Gosh!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks man 🙏🏼
@jacob.m
@jacob.m Жыл бұрын
That was a really good video Tristan! It would great to see more conversations between you and your coach to help athletes without a coach to see how the best athletes in the world really train! Keep it up!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks man 🙏🏼 I’ve got a video coming soon with John, about training sessions every cyclist can follow. Hopefully it’ll be a good insight!
@onlyonecjb001
@onlyonecjb001 Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo Sounds awesome.
@jacob.m
@jacob.m Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo sounds really good!
@jasonhopkins6357
@jasonhopkins6357 Жыл бұрын
A very interesting Vlog, John Wakefield is amazing so knowledgeable. Your numbers seemed really good, also having John it will be interesting to see the improvements. Hopefully some training videos. What was with the unusually high testosterone numbers that you recorded that happened in the Human Health video you did ? I meant to ask before.
@andyking8464
@andyking8464 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video, Tristan! Thanks so much for sharing this journey. I find it incredibly inspirational and motivates me to train in a more focussed manner. (I'm old fat and slow BUT I'm improving!) Cheers. :)
@jurgenleofoley4270
@jurgenleofoley4270 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video l, got test 4 times in Cape town, highly recommended 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
@robp3431
@robp3431 11 ай бұрын
Man, it would be awesome to have a testing facility like this at one's disposal ..... truly professional
@Borisboef123
@Borisboef123 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🤝🏼
@BobMcKerrell
@BobMcKerrell Жыл бұрын
Man you’re a machine. ! Good go man !!
@cyclotaur6315
@cyclotaur6315 Жыл бұрын
I love watching (other) people do VO2 max tests. 🤣😂👏👍
@zaphod_beeblerox
@zaphod_beeblerox Жыл бұрын
22:46 snubbed! 😂 awesome work tristan
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Hahaha he got my hopes up in the first part of his reply 😂
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo Gave you hope and pushed you away!
@designeddifference6907
@designeddifference6907 Жыл бұрын
I bet you wish you’d done this 10 years ago Tristan. It’s all relative to where your at now. Enjoy the improvements.. your self motivated, I’m looking forward to the 6 or 12 month re testing results great vid mate..
@scugno
@scugno Жыл бұрын
Great video Tristan don’t believe only the numbers from that test believe the results that you produce at the races which last time I checked you just won.
@scugno
@scugno Жыл бұрын
I’m not telling people not to go get these test done, but anybody that believes that these test are the final verdict of your talent is crazy. If you’re watching the Giro today, they are talking about this specifically and how there’s so many variables that make great riders. Him telling you or anybody that these numbers determine whether you will be in the world tour is absolutely false and I would not listen to him.
@shaneolivier1650
@shaneolivier1650 Жыл бұрын
Short time later I'm glad to see you are alive😂
@bikesavvy3654
@bikesavvy3654 Жыл бұрын
You would definitely be a great addition to a pro team. A positive attitude, communication, a following and can definitely put out the watts.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 11 ай бұрын
Thanks man 🙏🏼
@glennicol1361
@glennicol1361 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting!
@shannonmeehan
@shannonmeehan 4 ай бұрын
Is there anywhere in Sydney you can get this testing and coaching?
@ashcameron7677
@ashcameron7677 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Super strong
@diverg3
@diverg3 Жыл бұрын
Hey, really interesting content! I’m doing my first test after summer (same testing protocol as yours) - but wanted to get some proper training miles in my legs before then. Did the suggested near threshold training make its way into your training plan? Would you call yours overall polarized or split otherwise? Near threshold sounds like sweet spot training to me… good luck!
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
What you have said is a common comment we here when someone needs to or wants to test "I need to train 1st" this is often incorrect as you want to test now in order to see where you are and what our need to do going forward. good or not so good numbers. Its not a pass or fail its a way forward. Why test if you in good form? Please don't use the word sweet spot there is no such thing from a performance variable.
@timpattydaechsel5988
@timpattydaechsel5988 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting video , love looking at your numbers , I’d like to think mine would be similar at your age , now at 66 yrs young, am currently at 3.96watts/188 max hr. 172 threshold, 65 VO2. What I’m curious about that I didn’t see in your video was a heart rate recovery number. Most of my experience in racing is in mountain biking and I always thought that next to power/weight ratio , recovery was the next most important asset for good results . I think that one minute heart rate recovery number could be a good indicator of race results separate from the usual power and threshold numbers
@dieterbierman9803
@dieterbierman9803 Жыл бұрын
That sadistic little laugh at 17.40 ;)
@MichaelRideout
@MichaelRideout Жыл бұрын
Top notch content. Question, I watched the last part of the video a couple times and I think I’m gathering that the watts per kilo is based on the max power value at the end of the test? (not w/kg based on FTP)
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
Peak power and threshold value are concerted into WKG, both are reported.
@MichaelRideout
@MichaelRideout Жыл бұрын
@@johnwakefield7942 correct but they were specifically speaking about one at the end of the video which was what? Max value of the ramp test?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelRideout Yeah, the 6.8w/kg spoken about is the maximum power reached during the ramp test. That is not my FTP.
@MichaelRideout
@MichaelRideout Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo thank you. I appreciate the time and effort you put into making each video. Keep up the great work!
@qoolss
@qoolss Жыл бұрын
This was awesome, thanks for doing it and sharing it with us novices struggling to get to 4 let alone 6watts/kg.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
What’s cool about riding is there’s always room to improve. We all have a physiological ceiling but from all the experience I have, I’d say most people are much further from that ceiling than they think. Glad you enjoyed the video! 🙏🏼
@shuttles69
@shuttles69 Жыл бұрын
Would more ph in body help buffer lactate? Eg baking soda in water?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
While there is evidence that Bicarb does buffer to a point, it is not as big a variable as everyone thinks. You also need to load from 3hours before small g/kg of body weight in a protocol but it would make little to no difference here.
@piccicacca
@piccicacca Жыл бұрын
Hey Tristan! Would LOVE for you to catch up with Jay Vine, fellow OZ, and do a video together!
@wendysuperfan1014
@wendysuperfan1014 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tristan.
@barrydunne78
@barrydunne78 Жыл бұрын
Just curious were you totally self trained for the last 6 months or greater leading up to getting coached from John? Where you surprised at your training plan, or was it organizing what you already did, or does he have you doing less but with more hard sets ?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i've been self trained for the last 6 years. I had a coach during 2016 but otherwise I've always set my own plan. The plan laid out by John has been more goal-specific, with more rest involved - so yes, less, but better quality and focus in general.
@anthonyhomercycling
@anthonyhomercycling Жыл бұрын
Super 🎉good!!! 👏
@gazr99
@gazr99 Жыл бұрын
Had the Bane look and sounds going by the end of that ramp test
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, not the prettiest sight or sound!
@yetogoicolea586
@yetogoicolea586 Жыл бұрын
super as per yush hugs brother
@docpewpew
@docpewpew Жыл бұрын
How do you work on lactic going down?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
Training at a certain intensity and focusing on this. What you want to do essentially is improve your bodies ability to utilise lactate as a fuel. It is termed "metabolic" as it is improving your metabolic flexibility in terms of substrate (fuel) usage.
@docpewpew
@docpewpew Жыл бұрын
@John Wakefield thanks! In general what would that intensity look like z4 or z5? Longer duration?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
@@docpewpew While everyone is different, it will be around 80-85% of threshold.
@conorgoodman5731
@conorgoodman5731 Жыл бұрын
How many milligrams of O2 do you utilise at peak power per kilogram of body weight?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
All the data is displayed at 19:24
@Apostroph418
@Apostroph418 Жыл бұрын
Why is ftp from ramp 0,95% not 0.85? Isn't 95% for 20 min max power?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
Yes 95% is different to .95 when analysing with a metabolic cart with respiratory gases. The .95 is the RER value and not a % that use to we identify the start of threshold for. We do not look at a power value and * by .95%
@neilplatt1111
@neilplatt1111 Жыл бұрын
Great insight, but top pro's are something else. Stay to and around your level and enjoy it. Set goals to measure your performance with stretch targets built-in. I believe the age appropriate advice is very sound one given by John, as for mine its about balance of being a good cyclist within and not over impacting the rest of your life. Pro cyclists have skills you (certainly not I) cant achieve, but you have skills outside of CYCLING that they can't achieve.
@conrad6226
@conrad6226 10 ай бұрын
You're actually a beast. 75 vo2 max and 6.5w/kg.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 9 ай бұрын
Thanks man 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@guillermomunoz5531
@guillermomunoz5531 Жыл бұрын
3.5 for an untrained person? What a humble bath
@kurthunsaker126
@kurthunsaker126 Жыл бұрын
I get the sense that this coach is far removed from real amateur recreational cyclists.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
3.5 is maximal power, not FTP.
@guillermomunoz5531
@guillermomunoz5531 Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense
@jeancourcelles4936
@jeancourcelles4936 Жыл бұрын
When doing such high intensity efforts, never stop pedalling that fast! Keep legs rolling with no tension just to let blood flow more stable! Very hard on the heart otherwise!
@Saladh_Olivier
@Saladh_Olivier Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! Proves again if you aren’t a pro rider at 16-18, you’re not going to one. Enjoy your life, watching races is way more entertaining, haha 😆
@IamCrocS
@IamCrocS Жыл бұрын
DAMMNNNNNNNN
@shaneolivier1650
@shaneolivier1650 Жыл бұрын
63 kg body weight 😲 I'm just over 1.9 and weight 87 kg,would like to be 80 kg 🤔
@robertbankers8003
@robertbankers8003 Жыл бұрын
Everyone has a dream.
@ForwardLooking832
@ForwardLooking832 Жыл бұрын
Did they have a vomit bucket handy, coz I would have needed it after seeing that!
@CycoWarriorx
@CycoWarriorx Жыл бұрын
The opening scene gave me the feeling in about another 20 seconds there would’ve been a stomach launch… 🤮… 😬
@endorfinswimmer
@endorfinswimmer Жыл бұрын
The Pro rider he talked about that had not good results but win races.. maybe he has been tested when he is natural in off season. I read an article about un clean Guy saying he was the best of the team on the first test of the season but then...
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
No he was tested throughout the season and we had training and racing data to correlate it. He was as I said one of the best riders to read a race and this was able to put him in good position to do well when it counted.
@diverg3
@diverg3 Жыл бұрын
Sounded like Willie Smit to me but perhaps not!
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed Жыл бұрын
Before I came along professionals were aimlessly riding around trying to gain fitness riding for hundreds of miles. Then I came along and try to explain to everybody about structure, training and how important it is. I was laughed at and called the troll. For many years people would ask me where are your base miles and I would tell them I don't have any. All I do is efforts from 30 second intervals to hour and a half intervals. I was made fun of for close to 20 years and was blamed for using steroids because of the fitness my training would give me. The cycling world that was so dependent on gaining fitness through base miles couldn't understand how effective short intervals can be. 20 years later everybody is doing my workouts and has forgotten about our arguments. I was the one called a troll because of the ignorance that existed in the cycling world. My title is not because I'm the fastest person in the world. It's because my training was light years ahead of the professionals. My Strava is the proof to my words as far back as you go. The only thing you'll see is structure training using intervals.
@burronorteno
@burronorteno Жыл бұрын
You won't turn Pro anytime soon but it was a good video
@freebird61885
@freebird61885 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, his numbers aren’t that far off and they’re better than 99.9% of cyclists out there
@igorpodlipnik7405
@igorpodlipnik7405 Жыл бұрын
I'm 100% sure I would have puked in that mask as soon as I stopped. They wouldn't be able to take it off fast enough. TBH such a test scares me. :(
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
It's not that bad honestly.
@__marshie
@__marshie Жыл бұрын
The words “ramp test” make me sick! Good job.
@Paul-qb7lo
@Paul-qb7lo Жыл бұрын
“The science says” you my friend are at the age when pro level riders are looking to retire. Dreamers can dream
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thankfully I know how to write a clickable KZbin title so I can earn a living riding my bike in a different way..😂
@trdi
@trdi 7 ай бұрын
There is no way that's 6.2% body fat. Calipers are terrible for measuring BF%, as they assume everyone is average. Looks more like 10%, which is very low.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 7 ай бұрын
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