BIKE FITTING: This ONE change = 7% MORE power. WorldTour bike fitter RATES my bike fit...

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tristantakevideo

Күн бұрын

John Wakefield was one of the performance coaches who helped Tadej Pogacar win his two Tour de France yellow jerseys. He also runs Science To Sport in Girona. So I asked him to judge my bike fit - and then help make me faster...
A very big thank you to John and Marc for their time in making this bike fit and vlog happen.
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00:00 Intro
01:14 John's background in pro cycling
03:37 The fit process
04:58 Flexibility issues
07:17 Insole & cleat problems
13:55 Saddle pressure mapping
16:04 2nd pressure mapping
18:50 Issues that can affect performance
22:50 Final thoughts
This ride was filmed at the Science 2 Sport lab on Carrer Nou in Girona, Catalunya, Spain; a cycling mecca that has been home to many professional cyclists including Ben O'Connor, Jack Haig, Esteban Chaves, Ryan Mullen, George Bennett, James Knox, Dorian Godon, Jay Vine, and at one point George Hincappie, Lance Armstrong and Tyler Hamilton. Girona is used for training for races such as the Tour de France, Volta Catalunya, Vuelta Espana, Paris-Nice, Giro d'Italia and more. Teams such as INEOS-Grenadiers, Israel-Premier Tech Pro Cycling, Human Powered Health, Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl Team, UAE Team Emirates and others use Girona for team training camps and rider testing.

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@conorwells35
@conorwells35 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos they are so informative thanks Tristan keep up the good videos
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 Жыл бұрын
Great review of fit cause meet effect. Thanks for the great video and sharing the expertise of this knowledgeable fitter.
@jamesbull9879
@jamesbull9879 Жыл бұрын
Issue I’ve always had with bikefit is that there is so much room for personal interpretation between different fitters. Having had a couple, some were great and made a huge difference, the other made things worse
@darringrey4329
@darringrey4329 Жыл бұрын
I agree is it possible they make changes for change sake??
@andrewlabat9963
@andrewlabat9963 Жыл бұрын
@Darrin Grey A lot of bike fitters do this. Some of their reasons are just their thing, and don't really fall into the category of good practice. But should all be rooted in what's best for an individuals needs.
@PhiyackYuh
@PhiyackYuh Жыл бұрын
You can always do your own bike fit and tinkering around which will take you more long time to figure out whats best for you. Bike fitters will always have different take. Just like going to different doctors, their opinion varies. Go to the ones that provide rationale behind changes. Also most punters need changes on their body not more on the bike fit itself. Bike fit is not magic fix. If you want optimal then bike fit + work on your strength, mobility etc off the bike!
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын
​@@darringrey4329 bike fitters are trying to make money, so yeah. Currently, it's not really a science.
@jauxed
@jauxed Жыл бұрын
I've had 2 bike fits, 1 Guru and Retul. Both are worst, they say have go back and tell your fitter...they just slack and kept me on appointment which never happened. I fitted myself and I feel better. These fitter only fits you thoroughly if you're a pro.
@billromas
@billromas Жыл бұрын
great info..like the total concern of all the aspects of rider/ flexibility/ sensations etc and exact measurements
@craiggreen4388
@craiggreen4388 Жыл бұрын
So what was the recommended hamstring exercises? Great vid as always, very informative & great delivery/editing.
@jonathanlau1041
@jonathanlau1041 Жыл бұрын
John and Mark did a fantastic bike fit for me last year. After fits with different systems, the difference with Science2Sport is there approach aeound understanding the athlete and using their experience to acknowledge athlete limitations and apply this to the fit. Great to see John and Mark in action again on this video!!!
@Joao_T
@Joao_T Жыл бұрын
Man, this again one really interesting video! Bikefitting is something I always did, maybe because I came from a long athlete life in other sports. It's incredible how so small changes make a huge difference. Liked very much the approach of John and cool to see things that I haven't seen before in a bikefit!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Super stoked you enjoyed it so much 🙌🏼
@HarryPotter-wm3kf
@HarryPotter-wm3kf Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I guess this is the best bike fit I have ever seen. And I have seen a couple ;-)
@JDRELGOR
@JDRELGOR 7 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I've been setting my bike up for a couple of months and the 2 main things I've done for the better is change the seat post ( no set back ) and pedal extensions to widen my Q factor, which im surprised didnt come up in this video. Yoga is a part of my daily routine.
@rbonn3880
@rbonn3880 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. A bike fit is essential for any cyclist, but the extra concern shown for the athlete's body was fascinating. Good luck on your race!
@donvape336
@donvape336 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is one of the better videos explaining why. I definitely need to improve flexibility.
@maniastrat
@maniastrat Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting video. Nice benefit living in a place like Girona & having a great fitter available !
@beecoal
@beecoal Жыл бұрын
Timely and awesome video, Tristan. Recently had a fit but some left knee pain emerged. Diagnosis: tight quadriceps and hamstrings.The fix: incorporate more targeted mobility work.
@StClairCDN
@StClairCDN Жыл бұрын
So your problem was nothing to do with fit and the solution was nothing to do with fit. Stretching and massage was the solution. Bike fits are for beginners to get started.
@beecoal
@beecoal Жыл бұрын
@@StClairCDN it's more along the lines my previous (more aero) bike fit is no longer optimal as I am getting older (and need to take better care of my body) - especially if I want to maintain a position from my earlier days.
@jonathanhall8647
@jonathanhall8647 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual!
@simonknowles4267
@simonknowles4267 Жыл бұрын
Yet another great vlog. Interesting to watch. Wishing you all the very best
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon, glad you enjoyed 🙏🏼
@matskelton9589
@matskelton9589 Жыл бұрын
Highly informative and ultimately very useful for any level of cyclist 👌
@robpittman3132
@robpittman3132 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most interesting and informative bike fit videos I've seen!
@HoldenAdventures
@HoldenAdventures Жыл бұрын
Super video! Thanks!
@carlo2timesc221
@carlo2timesc221 Жыл бұрын
In the maglia azzurra on day one!!! Congratulazioni!!!!!!
@marctorrassuris1198
@marctorrassuris1198 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting video!!! Nice work Tristan, best cycling content ever!!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc! 🤝🏼
@wendysuperfan1014
@wendysuperfan1014 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tristan!
@TheCyclingCardio
@TheCyclingCardio Жыл бұрын
I’ve been tinkering about this for quite sometime, narrower hip angle allows better glutes recruitment and more proper power output, but how you there are determined (and limited) by so manu factor, like flexibility, upper body mass and weight distribution, core strength, etc
@michaelhoult9
@michaelhoult9 Жыл бұрын
Great video !! Wow learnt heaps. Marginal gains for the weekend warriors !!
@glennrodgers6826
@glennrodgers6826 Жыл бұрын
I think you need to come back home and do an effort up Fitz Hills and see how the bike fit it, great video keep up the good work
@corymolloy-advertisingprof4689
@corymolloy-advertisingprof4689 8 ай бұрын
This was informative - and helped me understand my own fit better.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Cory 🙏🏼 Appreciate the feedback and glad it helped.
@anonymeanonyme4047
@anonymeanonyme4047 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. You used numbers over the years . This I what we want to see , progress scientifically measured . Could you do kind of vid with running and cycling ? Subscribed
@JBSpine007
@JBSpine007 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. There was no mention of cleat positioning. I am curious, is the ball of your foot over the pedal axle or is your cleat moved back so the ball is more forward?
@petergaskill2753
@petergaskill2753 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the win!
@brucehumphries6889
@brucehumphries6889 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting on this video!! Now I need to figure out getting to Girona
@bendardania
@bendardania Жыл бұрын
Incredible! This is extremely important for anyone who rides or does and physical activity. Working on your mobility as you develop strength is the key to managing future injuries and improved performance to ultimately achieving your goals.
@StClairCDN
@StClairCDN Жыл бұрын
Mobility not bike fit. Right?
@Sudhanshuvermaphotography
@Sudhanshuvermaphotography Жыл бұрын
super happy to see my coach in the video!
@andyongsta
@andyongsta 11 ай бұрын
Hey Tristan, great video and insight! Thanks for this. What height are you? And your inseam is around 73-74cm?
@charlieclarke4541
@charlieclarke4541 Жыл бұрын
Really insightful video! Interested to know if the lower front end leads to any issues with hand pressure? And how you/one would deal with this?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charlie 🙏🏼 It hasn’t been an issue for me so far. Over the past few years I’ve spent plenty of time practicing relaxing my upper body, bending my elbows, taking the tension out of my shoulders and trying to rest my hands more gently on the bars by stabilizing my core instead. A lot of cyclists use locked elbows and tight shoulders to hold themselves up, which is generally what leads to pressure in their hands, whereas if you watch professional cyclists with a strong core and correct fit they don’t lock any part of their upper body. Not sure if this helps but it’s what has worked for me.
@modemarcoj8026
@modemarcoj8026 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@paulwebster4499
@paulwebster4499 2 ай бұрын
Another excellent video
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul 🙏🏼
@chrissimonds733
@chrissimonds733 Ай бұрын
Hey Tristan Wondering how the 685mm seat height you mentioned related to your inseam.? Love the channel btw
@Baz520
@Baz520 Жыл бұрын
Nice video mate, very interesting and I have watched the whole thing! From the video it is showing that you got a leg length of 90cm, but that seems too long for your saddle height (685mm) with a 165mm crank. Just out of curious how the leg length was measured?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
It is measured in 2 parts. from the trochanter to the heel and then we do lower leg only additionally.
@elliotHemmings-ck1qr
@elliotHemmings-ck1qr Жыл бұрын
What hamstring exercises were you given? Do you have a stretching sequence that you can share or do a video on?
@dannylo4807
@dannylo4807 Жыл бұрын
+1, im having the same tightness issue and want to learn from those who fixed it. 😂
@bradprescott7865
@bradprescott7865 Жыл бұрын
This is why I do it too, people don’t know what they don’t know. Often massive benefits to be had out of subtle changes. So glad I sold you that TCR all those years back bud, look at you go now brother you little weapon 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
The bike that started it all. Hope you’re well mate!
@lilth501
@lilth501 3 ай бұрын
I saw this video a few years ago it's now become a little bit relevant to me now that I'm waking up with the both hips sore in the mornings. I'm going to try and do some specific off the bike workouts to combat the issue
@scugno
@scugno Жыл бұрын
Mate, you totally needed this to be done. He smelled your insole. LOL
@stuarthammond2030
@stuarthammond2030 Жыл бұрын
Do you use the BRP of 70mm for the saddle? I had a bike fit but when i changed bikes the measurments were way out.
@scugno
@scugno Жыл бұрын
Another informational video.
@marcelsow5817
@marcelsow5817 Жыл бұрын
Two questions: 1) are you working on a documentary of your 3-stage race and win? 2) I purchased a used bike from an ex pro (Team DSM) and generally feel okay on the bike. However , the stem is slammed and 130mm reach. I’m fairly flexible but not a pro. I am getting better at working out a position for my shoulders and neck to avoid tightness and pain in that area, but my lower back starts to hurt after about an hour on the bike and intensifies when I push bigger gears in a seated position. I have seen bike fit videos where the fitter suggested external hip rotation and others suggested internal hip rotation. I’m bouncing in between the two depending on which alleviates the pain for the time being. All that being said, I am apprehensive to get a a bike fit cause I believe the biggest adjustment would be a slightly higher stem and maybe shortened reach, but buying a new fork and handlebar would be very costly. I do stretch almost every day and hope with more time in the saddle, my position and back get to a point where the pain is minimal until it’s time for a new bike and a bike fit is mandatory before making the purchase. What’s my question? Can subtle adjustments to saddle height, aft and fore position make enough of a change to postpone the possibly bigger adjustments to the front? (178cm, Scott Addict RC Pro, size M, 38cm bar, 130mm stem).
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Hey man, this is a difficult one..I definitely understand the apprehension to buying a new fork and handlebar, but ideally if you’re having pain, having a bike fit and making those changes will be the biggest help. Even if it results in you needing to sell the current bike and buy a new one. I’m not a bike fitter and don’t want to give advice on exactly what to do, but I would say yes, subtle changes to the saddle height and fore/aft will help. Stretching will also help. But again - it’s worth speaking with a bike fitter about what the best solution is…they will always be able to give the correct advice.
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
If the pain and discomfort is at the top of your back ie traps, rhomboid etc then the drop and possibly reach is to low and to long. You need to either reduce drop or/and reach. So come up and also go shorter on the stem. If you unable to then an option would be to run the stem upside down so not in a negative position to try reduce drop. Lower back if this run across the back can indicate saddle height being to high and not having he range in the hamstrings, try lowering the saddle 5mm, ride and adjust as needed.
@marcelsow5817
@marcelsow5817 Жыл бұрын
@John Wakefield @tristantakevideo thank you both. I will start with adjusting Seat height and see if that improves things.
@marcelsow5817
@marcelsow5817 Жыл бұрын
@John Wakefield measured saddle height yesterday, which was at 76cm. Based on Lemond method, I should start with 74.2cm 😯 Lowered it to 75cm on my indoor trainer and felt better in terms of power output and bum pressure. Once weather is better, i will see what it does on my road bike 🤞🏼
@jeremyemilio9378
@jeremyemilio9378 Күн бұрын
The only one time I am glad I have a quill stem. Adjusting height is so easy
@KFc-pm1rz
@KFc-pm1rz Жыл бұрын
Good video and interesting. Make sure you get new cleats though. Don't learn the hard way like I did with play of worn down cleats. I came off while sprinting on a crest as foot came out of pedal. Landed on other side of road and luckily truck behind was alert and stopped in time. I came of worst with bruised back as I landed on my back. OK now but always check and update your equipment when needed. So easy to get complacent.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Yeah I literally walked from the lab to the shop and got some new cleats. As I said in the video..it’s embarrassing how bad they were.
@mirceaandreighinea
@mirceaandreighinea Жыл бұрын
4:20 - oh, so cute, "slightly embarrassing backstory for me, i haven't had a bikefit in five years"
@tomf2919
@tomf2919 Жыл бұрын
I think I must have missed it: please, what is the "ONE change = 7% MORE power" ??
@Joller94xD
@Joller94xD Жыл бұрын
Same. Would be nice if anyone can tell us where to look in the video
@yvjohns
@yvjohns Жыл бұрын
I missed that too! It's still a great video as such, but since 7% more power is a huge leap, I wonder no one else has asked this sofar...
@user-qx4bp5rf3n
@user-qx4bp5rf3n 5 ай бұрын
Pelvic angle, I reckon
@DR_1_1
@DR_1_1 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-qx4bp5rf3n That. Flexibility. So the ONE change would be more stretching of the concerned muscles, ni this case...
@traversecitysufferclub
@traversecitysufferclub Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on how you approach making your hamstrings more flexible
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
It’s actually just a super simple stretch..there are loads of instructional videos and diagrams online. I just never knew I had tight hamstrings until this fit, so it’s something I’m aiming to work on.
@traversecitysufferclub
@traversecitysufferclub Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo thank you! My hamstrings are very tight, also. It has been challenging to effectively stretch them out because my back and hips compensate for my hammies. I can easily touch my toes, but if I isolate my hamstrings they don't want to give much. Lol. Good luck with yours, though!
@user-qx4bp5rf3n
@user-qx4bp5rf3n 5 ай бұрын
@@traversecitysufferclub Something you can try is the nordic hamstring exercise. Eccentric strength (basically control of the contraction) enables greater ROM and shows similar flexibility gains as stretching. It's important not just to be flexible but to be strong in that position or you'll be prone to injury.
@silasrobertshaw8122
@silasrobertshaw8122 Жыл бұрын
Had my first advanced bike fit last year after too many years. Did wonders for my position on a new bike.
@DurianriderCyclingTips
@DurianriderCyclingTips Жыл бұрын
Good vid mate. Get on a proper race bike if you want to get all your watts into the road vs lose watts from road disc drag and weight.
@PaganiZondaF650hp
@PaganiZondaF650hp Жыл бұрын
5:28 I already know and feel that I have tight hamstrings, but I am definitely more at about 80 degrees with that test
@bendardania
@bendardania 5 ай бұрын
Hi Tristan, I have a question; since yesterday I have been trying to figure out who fit the sl8 for Roglic. According to all public info, Roglic is 177cm tall. He use to be a ski jumper, so unless he decided to never work on mobility Roglic is incredible flexible not by choice but he had too. He was not a chump, actually he was on track to be very successful in the sport of ski jump. Now to the main point, why did he put him on a size 52 and than put 20mm spacers under. I don’t really get it. Sl8 has a fake labeled 6 degree stem it’s 12 degree. Based on what I saw he put him on 110 stem. Size 52 frame has insignificant weight penalty to 54. So why did he put Roglic on 52? Are the riders bullshitting their hight or there is a different issue we don’t know about or at least nobody talks about… like hand position over handlebar on long rides!!!! I’m really curious.
@nagasava8439
@nagasava8439 5 ай бұрын
Pro riders are all on very small bike (2-4 numbers lowers then the rest of us) with insane stem length (up to 16cm) . It puts them into very aggresive position...
@bendardania
@bendardania 5 ай бұрын
@@nagasava8439 based on my question you should understand I am well informed and versatile on any matter related to cycling. They didn’t say he had a 52 size bike just based on the look of the bike I know it’s a size 52. I was hoping he gives us an answer. Sl8 54 slammed sits lower than the way he has this 52 set up. I was expecting the opposite answer to yours. I was hoping he gonna say, I don’t make riders fit on a bike I just find them the right bike. Aerodynamics are amazing benefit but Roglic is a GC rider who drafts most of the time behind his teammates. Comfort is more important for him than aerodynamic position over 80+ hours during TDF. I think it’s time where we debunk the myth of standard fitting and size recommendations based on height. Just like crankset arm length of 172.5.
@jakebailey146
@jakebailey146 Жыл бұрын
If you tilt your hips forward aren't you transferring pressure off your sitz bones and onto your perineum?
@MarkRiddellRacing
@MarkRiddellRacing Жыл бұрын
Not if you til saddle nose down accordingly
@user-qx4bp5rf3n
@user-qx4bp5rf3n 5 ай бұрын
@@MarkRiddellRacing There's only so much you can tilt your saddle before you start sliding and get increased hand pressure. It's gotta be done right.
@scare1024
@scare1024 Жыл бұрын
What knee angle did you end up with?
@benschuttenbeld
@benschuttenbeld Жыл бұрын
Hi, I noticed that one of your legs is shorter than the other. Often shims are recommended in these cases. Was this considered?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
In some cases yes, you do run a leg length shim or in some instances run a shorter crank arm. With Tristan we didn't investigate the shim but upon final it was not needed. Knee and hip angle were good (slightly higher) but there was no hell drop or extended planter flexion. Pressure mapping also did not indicate any concerns in pressure changes to hot spots normally associated with the LL decrepency
@marcvb3364
@marcvb3364 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tristan! What did you end up doing with your insoles regarding the pressure under the first met? I'm having similar issues... thanks!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, we didn’t do anything during the fit but I have a new set of Bont Cobra9 insoles on the way so hopefully they help. I’ll be going back to John soon for another check-in so will be interested to hear his thoughts.
@chrissheehan825
@chrissheehan825 Жыл бұрын
What gonimeter are you using with the digi-pas?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
We build these ourselves from 3 parts. They not available to the public unfortunately
@starshamanalex5008
@starshamanalex5008 Жыл бұрын
BMC needs to send you a tt bike too, you got 20,000 plus people and growing watching this beautiful BMC, seriously, better than pro teams and GCN and bike shops for advertising, tons of triathlon people too need to learn how to not be noobs
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
🙌🏼
@sebastienbigras3864
@sebastienbigras3864 Жыл бұрын
probably the best bike fit clip I saw !!! bike fit is not just for your bike but usually more for the athlete (flexibility or mobility issues) !! wonderfull work bud!! 5mm plus a ton of time to strech !!
@robmason6466
@robmason6466 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@EastbayGolfer
@EastbayGolfer Жыл бұрын
Your fitting and adjustment focused a lot on pelvic rotation. Why was all your fitting performed on the hoods? Wouldn’t riding in the drops rotate your pelvis forward and put you in more aggressive position?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
It would, and does, but most people (myself included) spend 90% or more of their time on the hoods so it’s more important to get the position correct there.
@richardmiddleton7770
@richardmiddleton7770 Жыл бұрын
Power, aero, comfort. It depends what you're using the bike for. If you optimize one you'll sacrifice the others.
@emiliosacal6214
@emiliosacal6214 4 ай бұрын
What brand are your bib shorts?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 4 ай бұрын
They’re Attaquer - there’s a link in the description if you’d like to see more 👌🏼
@dominickregan2766
@dominickregan2766 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting video, If you have done stretch hamstrings, it would be interesting video. Stretching for Hamstring, pelvis and in general for biking
@Mathieucros31
@Mathieucros31 Жыл бұрын
What kind of budget is the pro fit ?
@user-qx4bp5rf3n
@user-qx4bp5rf3n 5 ай бұрын
My last fit was with the same guy who helps our (Danish) national team. That was about 300€, I think. I know he's done Søren Kragh Andersen's fit previously on private request, and I'd assume Søren pays the same as anyone else except the fitter might be paid more for additional feedback and follow-up(first follow-up is free).
@nicknick194
@nicknick194 Жыл бұрын
Weirdly I have exact,y the same frame size, saddle height, setback and crank length as you 🤓 Out of interest, what is your reach?
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
depending where you take the value from it is 49cm. Note that this is not measured with traditional
@nicknick194
@nicknick194 Жыл бұрын
@@johnwakefield7942 Thanks John for your reply. I was wondering reach from saddle nose to behind lever hood, but I understand you won't know all the numbers. Cheers
@newoldsteel
@newoldsteel Жыл бұрын
How important is bike fit? I had a cannondale CAAD 10 Ultegra years back that was fit bad. Then I now have a few 80s and 90s steel bikes with proper fit and I can ride circles ALL DAY and then some comparing my performance between the bikes.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Perfect way of putting it. A cheaper/older/heavier/“slower” bike that is fit correctly will always outperform a new/expensive/light/“faster” bike that isn’t fit correctly.
@robredpath9860
@robredpath9860 Жыл бұрын
Im suprised he didnt tell you to raise your saddle considerably. Our height according to the Lemond method should be around 705-710. I used to have a 685 Saddle height also with the 165mm cranks. Ive raised that up now to 705 over the last few months and feel better at that height. Reckon you need a set of MTB Cleat and shoes for your Photo shoots 🤣. Bike looks awesome
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
The Lemond method of saddle height is based off the traditional method. We use the more updated and validated X-Y angle when measuring saddle height. Tristan had a static lower leg angle of 81.5 degrees and thigh angle of 67.3 degrees. Final outcome was was 31.2 for knee (range is 25-35) and a hip of 75 (71-83) going higher is not advisable due to hamstring range and also this will close hip angle. Remember that you need to take into account the clients physiological measurements like flexibility, leg length and so forth it's not a set value based on a method. Thank you John
@lippization
@lippization 6 ай бұрын
I run the same bmc carbon cockpit and wonder how the guy can remove the spacer without cutting either the hoses or the spacer? 🤔
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 6 ай бұрын
The spacer is split..it clips together in the middle to allow for easy taking on and off.
@lippization
@lippization 2 ай бұрын
😂 you re perfectly right didnt notice you can split them
@Richz2
@Richz2 Жыл бұрын
Tried to go to the website but it saying that it’s not secure/private.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
It's back up now. The click-through rate from the video caused the server to crash..🤣
@Richz2
@Richz2 Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo 👍 hope you are feeling better.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 🙏🏼
@molfar9049
@molfar9049 Жыл бұрын
next time ask about the pricing, they dont have any info on their site.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
If you shoot John a quick email (or fill out the form on the site) he’ll be able to tell you. S2S has multiple fit options all tailored specifically to the rider, so as far as I understand it’s not a one-price-fits-all system.
@TnFruit
@TnFruit Жыл бұрын
The website don't work
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
It's back up now
@DurianriderCyclingTips
@DurianriderCyclingTips Жыл бұрын
Use mountain bike shoes man. I race Div1 with them no probs. Best to live with shoes as well.
@callanrobison2674
@callanrobison2674 Жыл бұрын
Why
@luzzyrogue
@luzzyrogue Жыл бұрын
I look at your ankle rotation, first eye they need a fix for that. Even other pro like Wout Van Aert don't rotate their ankles on a down stroke. It comes naturally.
@photomotor
@photomotor Жыл бұрын
Just slam it!!!!!!
@TheMerckxProject
@TheMerckxProject Жыл бұрын
This matches up pretty well with what my local shop owner/fitter always told me. And also the reason I'm hesitant to shell out for a computer/camera assisted fit. "Your numbers are good, the problem is in your head."
@PhiyackYuh
@PhiyackYuh Жыл бұрын
Ask a fitter who had jack all sleep and i can guarantee you there will be lapse in judgement, decision making and concentration when observing a rider. Not all fitters rely on another set of eyes aka technology. As if your eyes can capture mili second of deviation of knee going left or right.
@TheMerckxProject
@TheMerckxProject Жыл бұрын
@@PhiyackYuh it's not that I'm against a camera-aided fit. It's that, just like in the video, I have to fix the me before I can correctly fit the bike.
@TiLangThang
@TiLangThang Жыл бұрын
Hello
@EJGilb
@EJGilb Жыл бұрын
If those cleats are old and worn, mine are prehistoric 😆
@kyle3570
@kyle3570 Жыл бұрын
i think the bold look suits you brother.
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 Жыл бұрын
If he has tight ham strings, why are you reducing the bar height when this may cause lower back pain, due to rider limitations. Surely, there would be an advantage in getting him to stretch before lowering the front end. In my mind, reduced pressure on the saddle is surely due to the increased pressure on his wrists?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Cheers for speaking on my behalf but literally all of the points in this comment are incorrect.
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo explain why then?
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 Жыл бұрын
I'm also perplexed by the cleat wear comment. Yes, the cleats are worn, but I had always considered the coloured areas sacrificial and separate from the function on the bike. I'm not trying to be controversial. And I have removed the part where I suggested that the bike fitter may be used to athletes that don't have the same issues as that was a bit baseless
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had lower back pain. You can see why when I do the sit-and-reach test..my lower back flexibility isn’t an issue. The lower bar height is about closing hip angle which I had room to do, within the limitations of my straight leg raise measurement. We went 10mm lower initially (shown in the video) and it was too far and my position became too aggressive for my limitations, but 5mm was an optimal balance. None of it was to do with my lower back though. There’s also no notable increase in the pressure on my hands from a reduced height of 5mm, as I’m not locked across my shoulders, in my elbows or in my wrists. The riding footage at 11:36 shows this.
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 Жыл бұрын
@tristantakevideo Okay, sounds fair enough. That makes sense. I just wasn't sure if being at the edge of your current range of motion could have negative effects on comfort until you had sorted out your hamstrings. I suppose the 165mm cranks reduce the demand on your hamstrings, as it requires a reduced range of motion to maintain an aggressive position when compared to longer cranks? 🤔
@royanderson3478
@royanderson3478 Жыл бұрын
size? Go smaller than larger.
@gregor9921
@gregor9921 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but what doesn't a fit like this cost if you're not a pro who gets it sponsored?
@SashaTromsa
@SashaTromsa Жыл бұрын
a lot
@MaxRothFitness
@MaxRothFitness Жыл бұрын
Probably around 500 USD
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
@@MaxRothFitness Our prices are not near that amount luckily
@marcelsow5817
@marcelsow5817 Жыл бұрын
I saw some local prices (US) for about $280 for a complete assessment and fit.
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles Жыл бұрын
A bike fit is absolutely essential. Ideally before you buy a bike. Most important are shoes that fit well.
@PatrickWinzenried
@PatrickWinzenried 5 ай бұрын
wonder why he doesn’t mention any price range for his bike fitting services on his website…? for me this is usually a red flag but maybe there is a reason to that - do other bike fitters not mention it as well?
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo 5 ай бұрын
Not all bike fits will run for the same length of time or require the same adjustments. Some people come in and only need a saddle height adjustment, some people need a full fit from scratch. There’s no one size fits all so Science 2 Sport chooses to do it on a case by case basis.
@darrenc.3263
@darrenc.3263 Жыл бұрын
Great video...I am willing to bet 95% of your audience has tight hamstrings! Please show us the exercises! :)
@starshamanalex5008
@starshamanalex5008 Жыл бұрын
this guy just seems like a computer
@johnwakefield7942
@johnwakefield7942 Жыл бұрын
'88 Windows maybe
@paolocastellano343
@paolocastellano343 Жыл бұрын
You guys might want to explain what open or closed hips means instead of assuming that everybody who watches this video knows what that means.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Noted 🫡
@philipsimmonds1103
@philipsimmonds1103 Жыл бұрын
Pontificating complexity .. I'll take provisional solutions
@beau2047
@beau2047 Жыл бұрын
Don’t you think a bike fit is a provisional solution ?
@philipsimmonds1103
@philipsimmonds1103 Жыл бұрын
@@beau2047 definitely not .. but way more effective than a bike fit
@laszlozoltan5021
@laszlozoltan5021 Жыл бұрын
exactly who is riding the bike ? you, or the fitter ? ride lots, listen to your body and dont be afraid to make changes
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Yep 👍🏼
@hugobrown2516
@hugobrown2516 Жыл бұрын
i think t-shirt fits for both of you would be a start. LOL. depressing colours!
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
What do you recommend, Hugo? Sounds like you know a thing or two about fashion.
@evanjohn503
@evanjohn503 Жыл бұрын
i'm afraid you look like someone who was injured and came back too early. Use a sauna before you do any stretching exercises, this will help quicken your flexibility - i reduced my recovery by a third
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
What part of me looks like I’ve had an injury?
@evanjohn503
@evanjohn503 Жыл бұрын
@@tristantakevideo your hamstring - what else -
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
Nice to know. Strange though given I’ve never had a single injury in either of my legs, ever.
@szankony6276
@szankony6276 Жыл бұрын
Bullshitt claim... on 20% climb bike fitting has nothing to do.... it is all about human power.
@tristantakevideo
@tristantakevideo Жыл бұрын
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