Could Inostrancevia Survive the Cenozoic? | Grandpa's back in town...

[@MadlyMesozoic]

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[@gdragonlord749]

I want to add the wooly versions to my Pathfinder game

[@trebigsby5602]

The Mongolian horde riding into battle atop gorgonopsids was a visualize I never could've conceived but am so glad I now have

[@The_Darke_Lorde]

Also, after battle, they could feed their mounts with any dead horses on the field. And would likely turn a blind eye to the mounts feeding on their enemy's corpses as well...

[@SpazzyMcGee1337]

Not to burst your bubble, but I doubt they'd have the temperament for domestication.

[@jdmdosjskWendling]

Imagine seeing a Mongolian right on a carnivore instead of a horse, they would’ve really conquered the world there’d be either a saber stomach or a saber in your stomach

[@melkormorgothbauglir.4848]

@@SpazzyMcGee1337 Look at Zebras and ancient wild cats modern descendants I think we could especially for Mongolian nomads who'd actually desire to domesticate them due to their great usefulness in the steppe but I think the Saurhesters would obviously evolve drastically to fit this new role whilst wild ones continued to be common over the world.

[@Skullguy-w7b]

😃😃😃

[@SourGrapes531]

Highly informative, custom art, a great sense of humor. Your channel is definitely gonna blow up!

[@MadlyMesozoic]

Thank you very much sir!

[@bepisboopis]

Anyone else think the Saurhester looks like a quadripedal Allosaurus

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

He said in a livestream that he did base the pattern on an allosaurus illustration.

[@Anonymous-lv4di]

​@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 Not only that but he have them little horns

[@JellyGeneral47]

I noticed that immediately.

[@pietjepuk131]

i also thought of that

[@xanshen9011]

Mongol-Saurhester Empire

[@qwellen7521]

Vs Crusader Knight on Entlodont “war pigs”

[@loowick4074]

Alexander the great becoming Alexander the okay after he gets charged by 20 ton war paleoxodon namidicus

[@Failure1st]

@@loowick4074Alexander the dead

[@TiernanOleary]

Blessed by the eternal sky, Born of the steppe, Everywhere in blue-skied Mongolia, His name resounds in the world. Riding on his Fanged Horse, The courageous Mongol Genghis, The sublime lord Genghis. Even in burning wounds, A mind strong as steel, Like temporal swords, As powerful as a Fanged Horse. Riding on his Fanged Horse, The courageous Mongol Genghis, The sublime lord Genghis. Blessed by the sky above, Possessed half the world, Engrained is his spirit, In the majestic and mighty world. Riding on his Fanged Horse, The courageous Mongol Genghis, The sublime lord Genghis.

[@TiernanOleary]

@@qwellen7521HOG RIDAAAAA!!!!!

[@Fossil_Blade]

Everytime i see media related to permian period and before, i just get the chills because not a lot of people realise how important birds are for atmospheric sound. A world where birds haven't yet evolved would be incredibly quiet. One thing is being lost in a jungle full of animals and another is being lost in a jungle full of animals, _where you can't hear anything but small steps from time to time_ , steps that you don't know what they belong to.

[@davewells1642]

dont worry insects, crickets will carry the burden to fill the noise vacuum.

[@Marylandbrony]

The Australian military circa 1941-1944 versus the peak of the Terror birds.

[@argentin2306]

The Emu War, but now it could have actual casualties on the army's side

[@Ölorg3926]

That would be cool if they where present in the same area. The Terrorbirds are American unfortunately but it would be interesting to know if they’d could survive the ancient predators of Australia like Megalania

[@argentin2306]

@@Ölorg3926 I mean, Gorgonopsids are mainly from Russia and South Africa, so this scenario was particularly accurate on the whole location thing, nor do I think that's the main approach, no, I think that at first it would be to see which particular ecosistem from an era could be the more compatible and better suited for x animal from a different time period to be put on and then see if it could have survived and/or thrived, I think it could have gone really different I'd Gorgonopsids had been introduced in the American continet, perhaps it would have died out due to the local weather, competition with other predators, etc

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

​@justashark776 Essentially, no species can defeat armed humans.

[@jointcerulean3350]

Also Australia had Quinkana the giant ziphodont galloping land crocodile

[@yamatanoorochi6203]

24:12 Wait, are you seriously asking me if I'd rather see how a descendant of a prehistoric animal would affect the Mongols rather than another video showing the chances of survival of a prehistoric, modern, or fantasy animal in another era or world? Well, because I DO want to see it!

[@lechking941]

@@yamatanoorochi6203 agreed the Mongolian hord was feared already this would make em seam like demons.

[@majesticeagle6629]

Always a good day when we can speculate about putting creatures into different times then they are used to, or even different worlds than they are used to

[@Eirael]

Alternate history + extinct animals = a niche I didnt know I wanted

[@issac-2358]

PLEASE, I NEED TO SEE GORGONOPSIDS IN MEDIEVAL WARS or even in the old west with cowboys and everything

[@jadenmcdaniel3908]

Why not the great crusades

[@daikaijugamer6967]

In my upcoming book, inostrancevia and other synapsids evolved to fit various niches. The Honorable Orcs tamed the Inos descendants that are covered in fur and known as Wargs, which they now ride in the setting. A deadly cavalry charge as they would headbutt, trample, and maul enemies whilst their riders fought with weapons.

[@jadenmcdaniel3908]

@@daikaijugamer6967 world of warcraft or Warhammer 40k?

[@daikaijugamer6967]

@@jadenmcdaniel3908 neither. It's my own story.

[@alecfoisy58]

For another Permian therapsid suggestion, I'd like to see if Lystrosaurus would survive the Cenozoic, since they practically took over the world in the Early Triassic after the Permian extinction to the point where over 90 percent of the land fauna was Lystrosaurus.

[@nighfinite]

You really think that’s fair?

[@alecfoisy58]

@@nighfinite Why wouldn't it be fair?

[@JeffreyDonn]

Honestly , I think it's a interesting idea , I think the fossil record shows that lystrosaurs were adaptable

[@Afrologist]

@@nighfiniteIf Iguanas are viable then Lystrosaurs would definitely be viable.

[@nighfinite]

@@Afrologist How fast do you think a lystro is?

[@Bloborus]

As the ultimate apex of their era I think inostrancevia would have great bravado. An entitled hypercarnivorous land hippo with thicker bones that could also scavenge anything it likes would likely do quite well in any hot, arid epoch.

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

Imagine having a creature like around you're home that hot and arid

[@tessabakker662]

Giant honey badger? Giant honey badger.

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

Like the fact, @Bloborus.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

I like how Potworbos sort of converged with giant ground sloths having a similar form and niche in the old world.

[@Bos-dd4rr]

Wait wait wait someone is looking at gorgonopsids with more than just a “ah they looked pretty cool”!?!? And the potential for more content about them?? YES

[@alexaltair6076]

The Saurhester go so hard, I’d love to see where they’d go. They could influence so much of what happens in Asia, at least on a cultural level. Could be interesting inspirations for dragons and the taotie, and considering how rare they actually are they might be considered mounts for just the Nomadic or Chinese nobilities.

[@Afrologist]

A few notes: 1) Duiker is pronounced "Dike-her", 2) Inostrancevia would have a slower metabolism than Eutherians & therefore require less food overall, even when relatively active. This means that their viability would increase despite arid conditions or high competition, & 3) being apex predators, trying to intimidate an Inostrancevia would be more difficult than you'd think. In warmer periods, they would be incredibly difficult to fully outcompete, if you don't believe me just look at Sebecids.

[@uantus2860]

Fantastic video! Though there is a typo at 17:07 where you have it listed at 85kg and 1000lbs. Can't wait for your next one!

[@nighfinite]

The gorgonopsids remind me of how weird hairless cats are for some reason. A Mongolian riding a Saurhestur Mongolius would’ve been super cool. Even though the times don’t match it would’ve been a sight of pure ancient strength without a theropod or sauropod in the mix.

[@quickestscoped7603]

You should do a video placing modern-day amphibians and/or insects in the Carboniferous...it might be really cool! I love these video ideas and I think that you can go a long way with them

[@widodoakrom3938]

Well they will got bigger bcs on carboniferous period there's more oxygen

[@texasyellow3563]

bro PLEASE expand on the horse lizards

[@haltoucey9142]

Definitely do make a video on the domesticated gorgonopsids, I would love to see your thoughts on how they would be utilized!

[@ej2u545]

I swear to God that Patrick joke was so fucking funny I died 0:46

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

same XD

[@jadenmcdaniel3908]

Patrick: what kind of place is this

[@chunkykong01]

Great video as always bud!!💚🫂

[@camera5427]

You make great content and the mix of the information and your in-depth theories on how the animals would evolve is amazing

[@mike_y0st]

A fictional video idea: If all modern predators were to die (say in the North American continent), what animal would you guess would eventually evolve into the predator niche? My guess is the current population of wild mustang horses. Imagine a small “pack” (as they’re no longer a “herd” of horses with hooves still, but sharp and terrifying teeth.

[@MadlyMesozoic]

This is a good concept, i'll keep it in mind. Thank you for subbing to the patreon!

[@mike_y0st]

Absolutely! 🐘🦖

[@victory8928]

I think if modern predators were to die out I bet some birds may evolve to take their place along with rodents and maybe even boars that were introduced (since the horses of today are invavive and introduced as wel). Oppossums may also evolve to take up predator niches as well.

[@AncientWildTV]

@@victory8928 it makes sense that adaptable species like birds, rodents, and even opossums could fill those ecological niches. But do you think these new predators would affect the overall balance of their ecosystems?

[@evernewb2073]

painted dogs might be an interesting one: they are the single most effective land based predator on the planet in terms of hunts attempted vs hunts succeeded but I honestly don't know if that is a result of how they interact with their biome, something special on their part, or just plain being _really_ good at being dogs.

[@kryptoraptor]

I would LOVE to hear more about Saurhestur... The design is so good and you seem to have put a lot of thought into them, so please share.

[@PastaPet]

Swear to god you're my favourite channel atm, I love the spec evo you do

[@stilllearningml]

Love all your videos! You’ll eventually turn big I believe, proud to say I’m one of the early watchers and subscriber! ☺️

[@cya5983]

Subbed immediately, informative, interesting, and superb comedic editing. Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

Will the biggest carnivorous stem mammalian reptiles ever be in all seven continents in the Pliestocene? I hope to see them encounter Megalanias in Australia.

[@JeffreyDonn]

Saurhestor vs megalania , I was thinking about that a while ago , I still think it's a interesting fight

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

​​@@JeffreyDonn Too bad Madly won't do it. He manages to both wow and disappoint us.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Let’s go, new episode Also I’d love to suggest something with Ceratosaurus, maybe putting them up against Pleistocene mammals

[@CommanderBox.]

You did a TierZoo reference after I specifically mentioned it in a comment! on "we just getting started" You absolute madlad, that's amazing

[@bobwilison6321]

I'm surprised this vid isn't getting the views your past ones have. You're content is already improving immensely. Hope you keep at it.

[@MadlyMesozoic]

we can only hope

[@anextremlyobbisehoovy8254]

Nice video, though I think that maybe the Gorgonopsids would also evolve into a sub-species that specializes in more heavy animals like hippos and rhinos. Do to they’re bigger jaws and better teeth used for penetrating the skin and muscles of these animals. They would also be in small packs of 3-7 individuals that use a similar strategy as Komodo and wild dogs, giving animals bites meant to rip of muscle and bleed them out until their to weak. One or two individuals would be used as a distraction to lure the prey into a charge (do to hippos and rhinos high aggression), while the others attack it from behind (around the stomach or they’re back legs) before retreating and repeat the process until the prey is dead. They would be most active during the night because there hippos come out of the water and rhinos aren’t as active as they are at dusk or dawn. They would evolve to have some sort of armored plates to protect them, bigger sizes, more develop legs and maybe and omnivores lifestyle (but mostly meat)

[@randallbesch2424]

They are the first saber tooth mammals.

[@AncientWildTV]

It would be fascinating to see their nocturnal hunting tactics, reminiscent of pack strategies in modern predators. Do you think their presence would influence the behaviors of these large herbivores, particularly in terms of their own social structures and territoriality?

[@bear3547]

I honestly would love to see a video dedicated to the speculative history of a world with Saurhester and other Gorganopsids!

[@rexrock91602]

your channel is amazing dude, keep it up

[@lexibyday9504]

I've always loved the idea of a naturally occuring predator prey partnership where the predator eats the things that would eat their partners.

[@BryantStevenson-z6y]

Dang it! Now I'm curious about this alternate history were the Mongol horde rode atop dragon horses. Cool video, didn't know about bear dogs or prehistoric giraffes.

[@Kharnix]

I hope you continue fleshing out the Saurhestid. Also, I'd love to see you cover some more aquatic animals too, such as placing the Megalodon in the jurassic or cretaceous period. I think modern roaches being thrown in the carboniferous period might be interesting. Last but not least, I'm curious how something like Death Angels could survive in Star Wars? Perhaps have it be during the clone wars, but no idea what planet they would invade here. Plenty of planets to choose from where they would be a pain to deal with though.

[@JeffreyDonn]

Madly Mesozoic's videos are the best videos of survival i ever seen , Keep up the good work my friend , blesses to you

[@MrPink-qf1xi]

Yes I would like to see more about these new gorgons.

[@stavros2956]

Another great video, i am so excited for the future of this channel.

[@theblackpearl3880]

I think I love this series. If it's possible, for April fool's day, could you do a spin-off where you would explore if specific, quirky celebrities could survive in certain time periods of our ancient history? Like if Grace Jones could hula hoop her way through the permian?

[@matthewseastrom2191]

That ad transition killed me

[@JeffreyDonn]

I agree , it was a good one

[@BiTurbo228]

I feel like Inostrancevia's potential mesothermy/partial endothermy would be a real boon for an ambush predator. Still spritely enough to make a proper sprint to catch prey, but possibly able to drop their metabolism when food is scarce/in-between hunts. Even if you are less effective than big cats at ambush predation, being able to subsist on 2/3rds of the prey would buy a lot of leeway in still being competitive. Probably fulfilling a niche not seen since the sebecosuchians in prehistoric South America.

[@northstorm9411]

Id absolutely love to see a world full of different things bein shuffled around and changing the world as we know it

[@kairyu9207]

These are pretty cool videos. If possible, I'd love to see one about placoderms surviving in either the Mesozoic or the Cenozoic.

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

Thank you for yet another speculative survival matchup & evolution. I hope you do Megalanias in the Mesozoic or Permian period.

[@Dwayne_LaFontant]

The last adaptation look like a ark creature

[@DoctorMagoo111]

I'm two weeks late, but I would adore a video digging into the Saurhestids. I wonder if their metabolism might remain lower than mammals and thus make domestication more possible (that is, by reducing the feeding burden relative to, say, war tigers)?

[@lucasaldous4683]

Could Terror birds survive the Mesozoic?

[@queent-g4b]

Titanis can do

[@yissibiiyte]

They were certainly faster than any large theropod, so predation on the birds wouldn't be an issue. But there probably wouldn't be much prey for them to eat

[@nathanroberts1708]

I think they could fill similar role to raptors . So I think yes.

[@Tarbtano]

​@@yissibiiyte They could probably hunt a lot of small dinosaurs and graduate up the food chain. They were likely much more adept at running than dromaeosaurids.

[@a.r.h9919]

They would be quite successful per say

[@mantos.a.f.c.m7412]

Yes 🙌 please Gorgonopcids we’re such interesting animals and expanding on their potential evolution and coexistence with humans would be oh so cool!

[@The_Story_Of_Us]

I would say that based on evidence of the remarkable success of what in my opinion is actually the closest cenozoic analogue to Inostrancevia: the sebecids, which were successful all the way until the late Miocene, the gorgonopsid actually stands a good chance. Whether they’ll survive longer than what is speculated in this video is another matter.

[@homiet-rex]

I’d love to see an episode about allosaurs surviving in the Cretaceous, Ik it may sound kind of boring but I think it would bring some interesting speculative Cretaceous allosaurs!

[@KalleVonEi]

Im gonna lose but hey #teamGorgo

[@metaloverlord3d33]

I love these survival scenario's and how you make them funny, keep up the good work.👍 Question: when are you going to make scenario where a animal from earth is airdropped into a fictional place or vise versa?

[@MadlyMesozoic]

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[@lewycraft]

Would love to see a simmilar video, based on our favourite giant Dicynodont, Lisowicia. I want to see, how this giant noj mammalian synapsid would do in the age of mammals.

[@JeffreyDonn]

It might be interesting

[@defcynodont5110]

I Really enjoyed this vid, great work!

[@BasedEngineer]

Your channel is top tier.

[@argentin2306]

Neat video man, I would like to see this same scenario, but with Therocephalians instead of Gorgonopsids, I think that could be neat

[@spectrum1348]

Not even 30 seconds in but I gotta say thank you for making this video despite being sick. I love this content and your work. You may never read this, but thank you anyways.

[@MadlyMesozoic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dinoonyx]

Your already at 18k subs i (if i would gamble) bet that you at least eventually become one of the biggest dino youtubers

[@daviddimitrov3696]

I'd love to see a history of these creatures working with people

[@Littlekoji-df1cf]

This idea is brilliant!!!! I Love this channel Already. Great job

[@CommissarPickle]

That sponsor had me SWIVELLING

[@nitzan3782]

Mongolians on lizard horses? I'm SO in!

[@manend2]

I'd love to see a video talking about what types of dragons could survive in the Mesozoic and Cenozoic

[@vikkmachine]

A glad to see my favourite Synapsid getting some rep

[@gaborholotajr.4427]

Now, the real question: How would certain extremophilic anaerobic eubacteria or archea potentially survive in the Hadean?

[@victory8928]

They would probably thrive in their usual homes and may be more wide spread throughout.

[@puffedspaghetti5090]

I relate to the part of the advertisement talking about the beardie scuttling around their home, my guy Toothpick is so loud

[@MadlyMesozoic]

fr bruh

[@SuperMrHiggins]

The marsupial like aspects are interesting as heck.

[@francisweller839]

The potworbos is a fascinating take on a large facultative herbivore build. White-tailed deer are already the most common scavenger of wolf kills in certain areas, so having a cow-like herbivore opportunistically feed on dead predators rewards the high risk aggression that keeps so many charismatic herbivores off of predators’ normal grocery lists, such as the moose and Cape buffalo.

[@smurfhelms68]

Im glad this popped up on my time line

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

Bro I would KILL to see a sequel where we see the Gorgonopsids become tamed by the mongol empire.

[@ac_muncher]

Tbh id say that gorgonopsids would survive a bit then likely go extinct due to lack of prey and fierce competition from hyaenodonts , amphicyonids and nimravids ( felids havent gotten big here , yet )Theres just really not enough prey items the size of inostrancevia A better formation in my opinion for this large gorgonopsid would be the Jebel Qatrani Formation from the eocene to oligocene , It consisted of tropical plains and marshlands aswell as some small forests , prey items were pretty abundent in large bodied avians , hyracoids and proto-elephants , all of these would be perfect prey items for it as competition from other predators wouldnt be TOO harsh as the only type of predators I could find for this formation would be hyaenodonts and crocodilians , Only real problem I see here for the gorgonopsid is the temperature and potential competition from hyaenodonts Anyway suggestion : what if the arrow-tounge from the documentary alien planet was transported into the mezozoic

[@Shorts_finder999]

5:07 that dimetrodon was chilling don't disturb😂

[@LycaonTheWolfKing]

I'd love to see more about the Saurhestur! I love alt history stuff like that!

[@dr.archaeopteryx5512]

Love the angry cows. And don't think I can't tell which exact Artwork inspired Saurhestes, lol, nice

[@samuelcid1726]

Baby, wake up. Madly is back with a banger

[@ahhhhhhhhh1718]

We need Genghis Khan riding a gorgonopsid into battle

[@widodoakrom3938]

Too op they will conquer whole Eurasia

[@PyroNexus910]

This instantly became my new favorite animal channel, keep up the great work. Idk if you take suggestions, but how about Could Big Cats survive the Mesozoic?

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

I hope to see an in-depth video of the "Saurhestur Mongolius" in the time of human civilization before the end of this year. Thank you. 👍🏼

[@YamnielLopez]

20:54 *[P R O W L E R ☠️ T H E M E]*

[@----x-----]

that alternate timeline where mongolian synapsids were domesticated sounds absolutely wild

[@eco9154]

Please we need to see how humans would react or do with them. Seeing a soldier riding across a battlefield on a giant monster would be so cool. Or maybe they could use them for farming land. So many cool ideas and theories.

[@pixlice8181]

Dude I fucking love these videos, keep it up man!

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

Given you've done inostranciva, would you be willing to give Therocephalia a shot? Given they were a moderately sized venomous ambush predator, you could arguably put them earlier. Would be interesting to see them evolve, especially as if one of their evolutionary lines becomes a herbavore like Inostranciva did, they could the first warm blooded creature with aposematic colouration.

[@BrownOwl2036]

I'd love to see the speculative evolution of the domestic animals

[@shahinarahaque2071]

:0 18k!!! CONGRATS!

[@Kittycat-89]

Mongolian battle gorgonopsids would be a great story to see, please.

[@TheMooFish]

Just commenting for the algorithm boost, Great Vid!

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

For hunting that ancient horse, the thing could probably snap its legs

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I can't help but think the easier prey and competition in the Eocene would give it better survivability then, even with the less familiar habitat.

[@Saiyanking72]

I def would watch that follow up episode

[@taragrimes1761]

So your saying that... The new creatures in the ceno have sleeping disabilities and has to use sleeping mask to sleep?! XD

[@queent-g4b]

The thing is screaming for its life 3:04

[@triden1172]

Saurhester looks sweet! Love to see further videos on them

[@CaseyTaylor-d5s]

21:16 head shape, and color looks familiar Edit:looks like a allo depiction lol