Could Natural COVID Immunity be better than Vaccinated Immunity?

Join me to review a recent observational study from Israel comparing people with natural COVID immunity to people who were fully vaccinated during the Delta outbreak in Israel. COVID immunity is important to prevent severe COVID 19 illness. While I am speaking about COVID immunity developed through natural infection, I do not recommend getting immunity that way. Vaccinations are the best way to develop immunity in those who are not immune and qualify.
Israel study: www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11...
Naturally enhance neutralizing antibodies study: www.nature.com/articles/s4158...
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Dr. Keith Moran MD, RCPSC, DABIM, RCS, NBE Biography:
I am a consultant in Internal Medicine with special medical interests in gastroenterology, cardiology, and echocardiography. I am a a full-time practising physician in these areas. I was an undergraduate at the University of Toronto, Trinity College where I received a number of scholarships including one for top student at Trinity College. I attended medical school at the University of Toronto graduating with a gold medal. My internship was completed at McMaster University in Hamilton followed by a residency in Internal Medicine at the University of Western Ontario in London. I then completed a fellowship in General Internal Medicine at the University of Western Ontario. I am an active echocardiographer who has been certified and recertified by the National Board of Echocardiography. I am certified in cardiac sonography and have trained and completely educated a number of cardiac sonographers. I am the medical director of my cardiology laboratory which was established in 2001. My laboratory performs echocardiography and stress echocardiography amongst other tests. I maintain my certification in the American Board of Internal Medicine.
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[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

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[@KevinTalbotTV]

the problem with natural immunity is no one gets rich

[@microponics2695]

Natural immunity creates antibodies for more than just the spike protein. The vax only targets one small part of the virus.

[@jeffhubbard4688]

The problem with natural immunity is that relatively few people get it. That why the Dr has written in the notes "I do not recommend getting immunity that way. Vaccinations are the best way to develop immunity in those who are not immune and qualify." It costs money to research and produce the vaccines necessary to protect the rest. Pfizer is charging only $19.50 per shot to the US government. Private vaccination with the same shot costs as much as $100 or more.

[@ehillis7646]

@@jeffhubbard4688 this is not true. The study tracked people who previously had COVID not just those with antibodies.

[@jeffhubbard4688]

@@ehillis7646 What did I write that is not true?

[@ehillis7646]

@@jeffhubbard4688 you wrote that few people get natural immunity, but the study shows that there are very few cases in people who have already had COVID which means many of them do have natural immunity. If the study tested only those with antibodies for the virus your point would make sense but they tested people who already had COVID regardless of whether they had antibodies

[@aidacontadorjimenez5579]

“If you have to be persuaded, reminded pressured, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized ... If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance -- you can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest.” - Ian Watson

[@madmonkee6757]

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

[@c.h.5559]

Perfect !

[@c.h.5559]

No one has to convince or coerce people , stop them working or otherwise punish people to push them into getting a flu vaccine or a malaria shot if travelling to certain parts of the world ( when allowed ) .. people who book in for those vaccinations want to because the benefits are clear and the risks have been shown to be low . If that person doesn’t want to get the flu & they don’t want to get malaria and haven’t heard of people dropping dead , having heart attacks and palpitations , stabbing pains , having facial paralysis… so they aren’t avoiding those vaccines . it’s only logical to awake people that it’s as suspicious as all hell that the Government would be spending billions of dollars forcible relentlessly messaging and glorifying people to jab themselves with a vaccine that makes a few exclusive people rich when they do not invest in other things that are a risk and the community dies from unnecessarily .. . It doesn’t need to be an argument to get the vaccine .. if you want get the vaccine if you’re vulnerable , your mum is elderly, your a front like worker get the vaccine . That’s already happened anyway. A body that sort of inflammation is a weakened body , immune system can’t be strong it’s stealing my “spot fires” or raging fires . Let’s work toward A very strong immune system that doesn’t have to be vaccine dependent because it’s working optimally and responds quickly like an army gathers . Invest in knowing what the body needs to be strong and how to be healthy and take responsibility for your health or your child’s . Geez government ! A good free tip since you care so much about building peoples immunity is subsidise vitamin D & C supplements and put a big tax on sugar and fried food & margarine . Reward people financially the less medication so I need to be on because their health Markers are high. Don’t shame people for being healthy that’s backward . Oh gee Guess no one gets rich with that approach. The government could make it mandatory that everyone has a health assessment every year and if significantly overweight or high sugars etc has mandatory visits with a dietician and has to have their diet & movement guided and an encouraging mentor. If the health doesn’t fall back into line then gosh will not be great maybe there would be early detection of an underlying disease or condition of syndrome and that can be medically managed . I think they have something like this in Japan. a great preventative health strategy not to shame , Make it normal to be chasing health , a group effort , walking groups each council establish Which is good social connection… Then the ambos & emergency ward won’t be overrun by significantly overweight diabetic people under 55yr having heart chest pain . Sad for those in third world countries , people that don’t live in great sanitation areas , can’t afford a well ventilated unit , lives in a mouldy damp place , the homeless .. those are the poor people that deserve support and immunity and community investment.. This covid 19 can be tackled on all levels not just one

[@NoBlinds]

Also im pretty sure Keeno Reeves mentioned something like that too

[@FiryaFYI]

This line does exactly what you claim. you post it in order to "persuade, remind, pressure..."

[@ianandsharlaland8883]

Wonderful information. Im a nurse, working on covid floors and am not vaccinated. I got covid in Oct 2021, survived. But now glad to know I'm 13 x more protected by my natural immunity. I thank the creator of my immune system!!

[@riseup6112]

How are they letting you work? They made me get the vaccine

[@nedsbc9104]

God (The Greatest Healer) had gave us a "NATURAL DOCTOR" called "IMMUNE SYSTEM." Just take care of it & it will take care of YOU !!! 😷

[@sunch4352]

YHWh bless you

[@jameslloyd6590]

Who told you that you’re now 13x more immune and made you glad with that “knowledge”. We like to see where you read it and a source please

[@tonybieker9306]

@@jameslloyd6590 It wasn't Rachael Madow or Steven Colbert so its probably not true.

[@janvodicka3051]

When lying is such a great business, everyone who tells the truth is a hero. Thank you Dr. Morgan. Respect.

[@finlandjourney6065]

In an insane world it's the sane ones who are persecuted! So here we are, us being called names and being censored. Truth can face open challenges from anyone. Only liars and tyrants need to resort to censorship or legalies to silence their opposition!

[@jameslloyd6590]

@@finlandjourney6065 how’s the exposure of the truth going? 🙃 I see the conspiracy theorists have let go of the anti vaxxer narrative and are now obsessing over the Ukraine war. Absolute sad acts

[@rogerdodger8813]

It's not a lie if you believe in it: George Costanza!

[@jameslloyd6590]

@@rogerdodger8813 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Kingscoolstuff]

Remember: Natural immunity doesn't make the drug companies money.

[@snivels]

This study is only about infection rates (which is good) and doesn't take into account how much worse covid symptoms (and eventual death) are without the vaccine.

[@jxwlticrkld]

The drug companies earn way more if you are on a ventilator you dingus.

[@madmonkee6757]

It also doesn't help those of us that haven't been infected.

[@deanhamed8450]

The vaccine is free

[@420snoogins]

Name one time herd immunity worked without a vaccine, I'll wait.

[@mark_tapia]

This is the exact level of emotion with which medical studies should be presented.

[@emiliebova]

And with a large cat

[@cmmom8755]

All facts no emotion. Meow!

[@AdonisNoel]

When you get news in the hospital that’s how it is.

[@iBRiDGE380]

And its just facts. Take it, leave it, deal with your own shit. I like it.

[@kevlarkittens]

bedside manner. they're trying to deprogram that out of nurses so that they take home all their emotions and become severely depressed. i really don't understand it until i end up working with nurse bitcharoonidooni. i mean, there's a balance lol.

[@googleuser2426]

This is wonderful to hear. I worked in covid units from the beginning of covid starting and then in December 2021 got covid. Sick for 18days and had pnemonia. Survived and recovered. Good to know I am strong because of it. Thank you Jesus!

[@graciasthanks4771]

Thank you Dr. Moran, this is the type of analysis I want, no politics, clear intent to be unbiased.

[@mikepark1221]

No shouting, giving the caveats of the study, not pushing for or against. This is more of what we need. Had the government and CDC handled it like this from the beginning, we wouldn’t be where we are today.

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Thanks Mike. That's what my channel is all about.

[@jackieprasek179]

If lyin fauci hadn't developed the disease, it wouldn't be a problem!

[@BB-qp9ri]

Was it from bats or is it a bio weapon, where is the evidence of it’s origin , why hasn’t it been isolated

[@gibblespascack1418]

All of these studies are being generated now. A year and a half ago, we were blind and the Chinese were lying saying that its not transmissible. We have learned a lot since then. I am glad that Dr Moran is analyzing it and putting the information out there. However, you have to ask yourself if its a worth wild risk to attempt natural immunity on 100 million people. Knowing the death rate of even 1.5%, we are looking at more than doubling(possibly tripling) the number of dead in the US due to covid(+Variants).

[@gibblespascack1418]

All of these studies are being generated now. A year and a half ago, we were blind and the Chinese were lying saying that its not transmissible. We have learned a lot since then. I am glad that Dr Moran is analyzing it and putting the information out there. However, you have to ask yourself if its a worth wild risk to attempt natural immunity on 100 million people. Knowing the death rate of even 1.5%, we are looking at more than doubling(possibly tripling) the number of dead in the US due to covid(+Variants).

[@Meinotchu]

It's almost like for some reason, the medical community suddenly forgot over 100 years of virology and immunology.

[@justme1269]

I thought I was the only one that felt that way.

[@madmonkee6757]

We've been vaccinating people against viruses for 300 years. No one has forgotten, least of all the medical community. (Well, perhaps the anti-vaxers have forgotten.)

[@wealthyboyss9545]

@@xfg45 🤝

[@justme1269]

@@xfg45 The cognitive dissonance is at its all time high right now. Thank you! 🙂

[@wealthyboyss9545]

@@madmonkee6757 this isn't a vaccine!! By definition it is gene therapy.. by a company that has always done gene therapy, until now.. plz understand what your putting in your boby

[@theCalmMonk]

I had COVID in April 21 with my grandmother. she is 98yrs old with 35%heart functioning..I had moderate symptoms and she had mild...We have small house..my mother helped us by giving food and some ayurvedic kadhas ....but she doesn't get it..even though we all are unvaccinated. We both, me and my granny came out of it .... still not vaccinated.🇮🇳🙏

[@JuLiA_9_5]

@@mrdemocracy7106 well, they are not the only "lucky ones"! My mother , 74, got through it easier than me and she took care of me as well. I had it mild. And I know other people who are " lucky" as they believe in their immune system and they do not believe in propaganda

[@miketzai9209]

That was nice but not all do that and we can never know how sick we will be..

[@kseniyakaryakina]

@@miketzai9209 most people aren’t that sick 🙄

[@22werwerwer]

What is 35%heart functioning? Is that supposed to be a medical term?

[@theCalmMonk]

@@22werwerwer She had heart heart stroke... doc suggested coronary CT scan...In that most of her heart artery have blockage...only 35 percent blood vessels perform their work

[@leroyrodgers6089]

The truth is unbiased, unemotional and does not care how you feel about it. Excellent analysis.

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Thank you Leroy!

[@ubroc]

Truth is that 19 people with natural immunity got infected, 1 was hospitalized. BELT & SUSPENDERS

[@ubroc]

​@@davidsmit8718 "a thousand fully vaccinated passengers on a cruise ship ALL became infected with COVID-19." PRICELESS Since when does 48 (updated to 55) = 6,091 passengers and crew You are boasting about having recovered from "covid pneumonia, not really that bad". STFD

[@ubroc]

​@@davidsmit8718 Better to worry about the side effects from Covid. There is no side effect from any vaccine where your chances of getting isn't higher than if you get infected. There has never in the history of vaccines ever been a serious side effect that presented more than 2 months after the vaccine was administered. Taking every attention whore on the internet seriously doesn't qualify as critical thinking. Treating professional public health officials the same as politicians means you can't tell the difference and that means you aren't thinking critically. You are just looking for any evidence that confirms your own bias and that also isn't critical thinking.

[@ubroc]

Both natural immunity and vaccines are unreliable because they wane over time and don't fully protect you from all Corona viruses either known or likely to develop in the future. ​I'm biased towards hybrid immunity because it's far stronger than either one by itself. Getting vaccinated before you acquire natural immunity makes a lot more sense than the other way around. BELT & SUSPENDERS

[@lizangenye1509]

The cat is more informed than most people right now

[@thisrichbastard.809]

Lol…I actually love cats now. Lol

[@damianpos8832]

Its funny becouse its true

[@Laura-ud6dv]

😅🥰

[@RawFitChris]

Chris C 0 seconds ago No truer words were ever spoken..

[@ihate4413]

Hahaha!!! Great comment. Lol

[@joshrandall3632]

It's difficult to trust a guy who just keeps referring to studies and data, facts and his medical expertise but doesn't include any tweets from famous people.

[@hikenmikes8262]

Lol🤣

[@iBeenNice]

greatness

[@thefilthygringo9228]

LMFAO!

[@jasonrodriguez3858]

😂😂

[@robf4605]

Hahaha now that was funny. Thumbs up dude.

[@marthaloreto3088]

Fear is the only card at stake here. My entire Family got ill from Covid. Every single one. From the Youngest being 6 to the Oldest being 80 and with Health issues. There was a 70 year old that is Diabetic and a 38 Year old that is also Diabetic. Two other relatives were Asthmatic. No one died, and no one was Hospitalized. We were all total of 40. This does not include all our Friends and Neighbors. It’s been almost a year since we all had Covid, and thanks to the Lord we are still here and Healthy. For those who are in fear and want to be vaccinated. Go ahead and do it, but don’t force those who believe in Natural Immunity.

[@FMeyer-zg5mg]

its no vaccine at all.

[@finlandjourney6065]

Don't believe your lying eyes. Others must be dying all over the place... LOL.

[@walterscott2286]

Well said! Thanks for contributing your family's natural, successful Covid experiences. I always feel like you do: that the FEAR factor is important here. It never gets talked about in everyday media sources, but a person's panicked, negative, fearful thoughts about Covid-19 sickness can really wreak havoc on their immune system! Whereas being nurtured and cradled in a close, loving, caring, supportive social or family situation (such as you seem to have), can greatly increase your natural immunity to viral infections. Thanks for sharing!

[@eileenhavern77]

Were they vaccinated?

[@onezerooneo]

My neighbor’s family of 9 all got it and 1 was hospitalized and 3 with long term effects so you’re anecdote is not true for everyone.

[@finlandjourney6065]

For people who've got natural immunity it's not just antibodies, but you'll have T-cells which last years! And as long as your immune system recognizes the virus' new variant you'll quickly start building more antibodies towards it.

[@bullymaguire632]

Same with vaccines, but the organizations are ignoring that and giving boosters to everyone :(

[@BustinNutz949]

You mean plasma cells and memory B cells that makes antibodies

[@miketzai9209]

But y forgot to think about problems you can have after covid.

[@jameslloyd6590]

I guess you’re not a virologist then, since it’s actually B cells that create antibodies. Nice try to promote alternative health though

[@jameslloyd6590]

@@miketzai9209 don’t trigger the anti vaxxers, they get butthurt when their conspiracy theories get thrown under the bus like all the others

[@matt8663]

It's pretty sad this can't be discussed in the main stream.

[@BST-lm4po]

That is the criminal consequences of censorship! That's why everyone should be outraged over the censorship of thoughts and ideas!

[@madmonkee6757]

This is discussed constantly in the mainstream.

[@Laptopdog78]

@@madmonkee6757 No it is not!! Do you actually know what mainstream media means?

[@BST-lm4po]

@@madmonkee6757 Then why the push for vaccine mandates? If everyone is talking about how effective natural immunity is, then why is the mainstream so adamant about vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, etc. The truth is, natural immunity has been all but ignored by the mainstream!

[@dawna4185]

i know!! you get harshly labeled anti vaxxer even when fully up to date on all vaccines...world is becoming a very scary place

[@Justin_80]

I remember when news readers sounded professional, factual and non-biased like this guy. I miss that.

[@fungames1594]

Did you get vaxed ?

[@Javservice]

CNN is biased… stop watching it man. They are ruining your mind…

[@calanjameshunt]

yea man... 1990's were a good time to be alive... rip the good ol days when stuff was made to last and we got unbiased info... sigh

[@drizler]

But but but, uhhh Fauci is a rock star . He was here before there were rocks so he knows 🤔everything.😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@Justin_80]

@@fungames1594 Hell no!

[@seanc1898]

Wow! So, this is what science is about: calm, controlled, patient, unbiased - facts. Imagine that. Thank you for your information and service, Sir!

[@IvandGreat]

This is great! I had covid in early 2020. I quarantined and stayed safe. Wife got covid late 2020 and we didn’t know it. She got mild symptoms so thought it was just a cold. Slept in the same bed and kissed her multiple times a day, she was positive. I was negative. Riddle me that. Natural immunity is REAL!

[@yourwordistruth1076]

i got it in december 2020 along with 3 people in my home. my daughter who didn’t live with us at the time, now does live with us, got covid 3 weeks ago. we were all around her all week with no distancing or anything. None of the 4 of us got reinfected

[@FuadJavadov]

It depends on blood type. 0 & 1 are fight the virus best

[@yourwordistruth1076]

@@FuadJavadov mine is A positive

[@sylwestersamborski6581]

My wife had mild c19 either. Me - never. I'm still not vacced, as I don't need it.

[@leatherandtactel]

@@themanofsteelleonel So we could say that it does no metter if you are vaccinated or not, apparently... But let´s be honest, these "vaccines" do not give you immunity at all, so what happened to your mother-in-law is probably a coincidence.

[@abigailstone823]

It’s really weird to see a seemingly honest, actually balanced and thoroughly informative video with no apparent bias. Like, really weird.

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Thanks Abigail.

[@abigailstone823]

@@MedicinewithDrMoran you’re welcome! keep up the good work! (:

[@fred24715]

True, what a nice chap 👍

[@DTB1995]

@@abigailstone823 It is but there are plenty more out there KZbin just ends up taking them down

[@chadlais1927]

The first time I watched one of his videos I was shocked KZbin didn't have it down! WAY too many facts, and objective thoughts! Makes me suspicious of commitubes motives... Hmmmmmmm. I've seen it before, they promote a rational, objective person for a period of time to get people to think he is genuine..... Then they flip him! Watch for it one day if he comes out and says the "science" is settled. We should all take jabs, wear 5 masks, and never leave your house again. Just sayin.

[@RemAtmos]

This is amazing! I’m glad this was posted! You have my support, sir!

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Much appreciated!

[@scottm4178]

@@MedicinewithDrMoran very clear and well spoken. I got my first dose of moderna 4 months ago, tested positive for covid 3 months ago, got my 2nd dose of moderna 2 days ago and I feel worse than when I actually had covid, I do not know what to make of that but it does not seem reassuring. It would be good to hear your opinion on why we are being forced to have vaccine passports or be excluded from society, it is morally wrong and I wonder what the real reason behind it could be?

[@bebeyuku377]

@@scottm4178 U made a very interesting question, but the dr did not answer. Why?

[@joesauceda645]

I had COVID and I’m still here. So I’m immune and I’m positive that I will be ok without it .praise the Lord and thank God almighty . Better get right Jesus .

[@jeremykraenzlein5975]

I have NOT had COVID (at least not symptomatically), and I prefer to keep it that way, so I got the vaccine (Moderna). So far, it has worked well. If I had been infected and now had natural immunity, then I wouldn't bother with the vaccine. Save it for the people all around the world who need it.

[@ubroc]

Didn't people in the group who had natural immunity get reinfected?

[@jeremykraenzlein5975]

@@ubroc Yes. There is really no such thing as complete immunity from COVID at this point. However, the best study I've seen shows that natural immunity is several times more effective in making a subsequent infection unlikely than the vaccines. I would love to have natural immunity, but I don't want to go through the process of aquiring it, so for now I'm settling for the protection of a vaccine.

[@jpcmt1721]

Bravo sir...for having this up for 10 days without being banned/deplatformed!

[@harissih7663]

Note that there is a selection bias for unvaccinated previously infected individuals. Only those who got the PCR test were included in this group. If you were infected and didn’t get the PCR test, you wouldn’t have been included in the study. Those who got the PCR may have been sicker and had a more robust immune response.

[@addamriley5452]

@@harissih7663 just as bias and selective as any other covid test. Consistency’s key. Absolute joke of a vaccine that doesn’t even qualify for “vaccine” status without trumps “fast track” ex order. Fucking disgrace.

[@rlmrdl]

Now 14 days up. So plainly there is nothing here that might be bannable or deplatforming. Perhaps because he uses actual data and, above all, does not try to oversell its importance or the value of the research.

[@addamriley5452]

@@rlmrdl most of the time the data being used is that of the CDCs own crap being pushed back at them saying “wtf is this” and then not wanting to answer. Never mind the fact that we still “don’t know” the origin of this bio weapon. 🤦‍♂️

[@benjamininstone5212]

@@addamriley5452 yes we do, it's pretty much confirmed it was leakage from testing on bat populations in wuhan. The bats caught by locals were then sold in the wet markets and we know the rest.

[@AryonaSamoto]

I asked my co-workers(nurses and doctors) at the beginning of the vaccinations why the government wasn't testing for antibodies and they said it was probably too much money. I laughed in their face and said "no, it's because there's no money in it."

[@stephanies2239]

it is mainly since the antibody tests have not been validated as reliable. there are at least three antibody tests available (probably more) but data shows inconsistency between these tests. so which one should you use and should your trust? now to put the money driven behavior into the equation. let's take for instance, there is an amazingly reliable and validated antibody test. So instead of these stupid vaccine cards or passports, we simply got that test done as proof of immunity to go to ballgames restaurants etc etc. Now that would be HUGE

[@bozmerz4358]

@@stephanies2239 These drug co.'s can supposedly produce a reliable Vax... but they can't even make a reliable antibody test or PCR test? It's like on one hand they believe they can do miracles and on the other hand they can't even get past preschool for testing.

[@irvhh143]

They must set a precedent. In a few years, it will be vax cards for SAARS IX etc

[@LukeAMcDowell]

For nearly a year, every time I donated blood they checked for antibodies. It can’t be that expensive.

[@apextroll]

Seeking natural immunity wasn't a viable option until a vaccine was available due to medical constraints(as can be seen in low vaxxed areas). Now that we have a sizable chunk of vaxxed people, we can seek natural and hybrid immunity. Before this conversation was just not possible and was avoided.

[@timothyfour8245]

I just found this gem. Very interesting and informative piece. Please keep up the good work.

[@marypoppins123]

Appreciate so much, your work and data you present to us, plus I REALLY LOVE YOUR CAT. Subscribed

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Thank you very much. Lynx is a sweet boy! Thanks for subscribing!

[@DAatDA]

Dr. Moran carrying the entire public health community on his back. This is the kind of fair-minded analysis we need.

[@jquiznos2283]

He's gonna need a backeotomy for how hard he's carrying.

[@omgdbwhatadb5586]

Careful with that truth...you may get "Clintoned"....

[@4EyedAnimation]

If he gets too popular they will say he's far right

[@Galadriel333]

Agreed...you can't bet this won't be covered on MSM.

[@NeilMortimer]

And yet scrolling through the responses you can already see people misinterpreting him and imagining that he's supporting their biases.

[@Officialerikledezma]

Commenting for the KZbin algorithm, more people need to see this video. Displayed scientific research, and did not use political reasoning nor opinions. Beautiful.

[@brodybestluck]

It worked algo Brought me here. There is hope for the world

[@numbertwo7677]

Not only more people, but the Stalinist decision makers and their propagandist arm, the MSM.

[@warrenpuckett4203]

Natural immunity is bad for vaccine profit.

[@numbertwo7677]

@@warrenpuckett4203 Spot on.

[@somethingsomethingdarkside8245]

@@warrenpuckett4203 and politicians, pharma companies, and the fda are all making money hand over fist from the vaccine 🤦‍♂️ what happened to being skeptical of information from biased resources?

[@firstnamelastname3468]

Thank You for presenting important covid information in a calm, helpful way. Thank You for sharing what seems like a very important study, from a large reliable data source(any other reasonable sources are good too). I wish all COVID-19 and related health information in our society was presented so well(removing the hype and overly dramatic doom and gloom overtones is so much better). It is important that all educated and informed voices in medicine(s) are supported and allowed to speak freely, so we can come to balance, rational response to important health&science issues. Sincerely thank you👍.

[@amadeov11]

I appreciate your presentation of not only the study but also the elements that were not fully accounted for and subsequently can be confounding factors. Another weakness of this study appears to be the lack of the behavioral information in regards to the reinfections and the breakthrough infections. If one populace is more likely to continue social distancing protocols then there sheer numbers of exposures could be drastically different. The single greatest determining factor of infection in any case is exposure. Your work is appreciated. Thank you

[@jairzinhohinds8285]

My wife and I got COVID19 in March 2020 and took an antibody test in May 2020 and September 2021. We still have antibodies and each time we test for COVID19 our results are negative. This presentation is intelligent, thoughtful and simply giving us the facts. We will continue to speak with our doctors, but it is rather interesting that our world leaders and professionals are totally disregarding natural immunity, something that has allowed our species to survive on a planet with countless viruses for generation after generation.

[@0doublezero0]

RIght but at the cost of a percentage of the population dying. Spanish flu had death going from anywhere between 2-5% of the world's people (50 million deaths). What you are saying is that you support natural selection with that statement.

[@wushupants]

And long before vaccines were ever in the picture.

[@angelquizhpe2473]

@@0doublezero0 yes, stop watching the news, you’d instantly be less stressed -> better immune system, you can also exercise, get sun, I can go on and on. This is an experimental vaccine, you do know that...right?

[@garythomas4431]

There thinning the population. Control is the simplicity on COVID. China holds the key. The others follow along for the cash.

[@monsterball5224]

That’s a long time to still have antibodies..may I ask did u have mild or severe symptoms when u had the virus?

[@curtcarlson7659]

I’m surprised KZbin didn’t pull this from their platform.

[@locomojoboy2]

Give it time. Commietube doesn’t allow anyone to contradict their narrative.

[@Marleet]

Just de monitised

[@at2dgames]

I will gladly join your following. I work in media and IM SURPRISED. I can't say 2 seconds of anything without 'regulation' looking over my shoulder 😂👍💥

[@sylviebird9490]

@@stoptheworldandletmeoff exactly

[@sylviebird9490]

@@NeightrixPrime yes. Dr Robert Malone!

[@redneckgirl3326]

I've been exposed to COVID many times at work. During the Delta Variant, the only people who got it at our office were fully vaccinated. Three of us are not vaccinated and we didn't get it. One guy who had COVID last year didn't get it despite his wife and daughter getting it.

[@alaskaaksala123]

My nephew was just infected by a guy with vax and booster. My nephew then infected two at work who,were vaxxed and boostered

[@maryshan80]

Same as my experience thus far at work

[@finlandjourney6065]

Yeah delta is worse for the quackcinated. It has an effectiveness number of minus something towards delta.

[@rogerdodger8813]

Good study, you should get into research. LOL.

[@rogerdodger8813]

You have to realize getting Covid has nothing to do with being vaccinated or not!

[@BradReddekopp]

I really appreciate the dispassionate presentation. Comparing the risks associated with vaccination vs. the risks that come with infection was outside the scope of the study but I think that's something worth thinking about. I've known people younger than me who died from CoViD-19 and I have friends who are suffering with "long covid". It would interesting to see a careful analysis comparing those risks.

[@dlauron2650]

Thank you for telling us about this study. You’re a god sent doctor.💞💞

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Glad it was helpful!

[@roula5656]

Really glad to find a doctor who is using their medical training to make their own analysis and referencing unbiased studies, thanks Dr Moran

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Thank you. I do my best.

[@danielhicks1824]

@@MedicinewithDrMoran Does this study not have an important bias. Anyone with natural immunity survived an infection, meaning that they are already not particularly susceptible to death. Meanwhile, those with vaccine immunity will have no such bias in favor of survivability.

[@robertsunderman9534]

@@danielhicks1824 not to mention that just letting everyone get covid so we all have natural immunity is literally a worst case scenario. Sure we are great afterwards, but we are ensuring maximum casualties initially. If only there was a way to get a similar immune reaction that was safer than the virus. (In case I'm not being obvious enough, there is. That's what vaccines are)

[@stayinggolden2665]

@@robertsunderman9534 Don't worry, the birth rate seriously outweighs the death rate. Is it really a plus using a rapidly released "vaccine" that could potentially have unlimited side effects? Like non stop variants for example?! Fact is covid is going no where and taking a "vaccine" pushed through too fast by the fda which is mostly funded by big pharma supported by pfizer scientists isn't a viable option for a healthy population. Hereby saying most dying are from comorbidities then maybe those at risk may want to risk it all and take their chances on this "vaccine". But if you're healthy I'd steer clear and I'd certainly not be pumping kids full of this kool-aid!

[@danielhicks1824]

@@stayinggolden2665 fact is covid is growing far faster in areas of the us with low vaccine usage. The rate of observed serious side effects are miniscule. And finally, thr more infected we have running around the more copies of the virus have a chance to mutate into a new variant. You talk about speculative unlimited side effects, but the virus has long term effects too at a rate higher than death. Many end up with long term mental cloudiness, heart issues, among other things after covid. That also ignores the possibility that covid is like shingles, lying dormant and resurfacing after years. Covid does infect many types of tissues include the immune privileged brain, giving it more possibility to lie dormant

[@CuteFloofs]

Thanks for the clarity.

[@702ringo1]

Thank you doctor for making this video. It’s greatly appreciated!!!

[@outrageouslove6170]

We've been doing a little experiment in my family. Myself, my husband, both my children and my in-laws all had COVID in November 2020. All us adults were sick. I had long COVID but finally kicked it. My children had no symptoms at all. 6 months later, I decided to check my antibodies and I convinced my mother in-law to do the same. Her antibodies were sky high and mine were negative. The differences between us: I'm 49. She is 68. I work from home. She works at the elementary school. My guess is she is constantly getting exposed there where as I am never around anyone. My kids are homeschooled. So now I try to be around her and give her a good sniff every time I see her. At the end of August I asked her to get another antibody test to see where her level was at after being away from the school kids for 3 months. Her antibodies were about half of her previous result. So I'm guessing hers dropped due to lack of exposure over the summer. She is back at school now, still not vaccinated and she will be testing her antibodies again in November to see if they shoot back up.

[@DatKat]

here's to a Good Sniff....very scientific lol

[@DavidSmith-dm8ew]

" and give her a good sniff every time I see her" I had to lol @ that. Hope she don't let one rip while your "giving her a good sniff"

[@wrecktifier1]

@@DavidSmith-dm8ew : )

[@mrchaotiq]

How do you check your antibodies?

[@mrchaotiq]

@@outrageouslove6170 oh OK. I'm in New Zealand not sure if that's available here but I'll look into it. I got the first Pfizer shot but one of my daughters isn't getting it. Can do like a mini study within the family with the antibody testing. It will be purely anecdotal but will be interesting to see.

[@MichaelSmith-td7op]

I almost died from Covid in August 21. My wife treated me at home. She was naturally immune since she had had Covid in Dec. 20. We slept in the same bed, she fed me, gave me vitamins was with me. A pure angel. We also had 3 others that were naturally immune and no one got sick!

[@miketzai9209]

So with your experience do you think it's a good idea to get vaccine, i was sick with covid back in April 2020,i say go for the vaccine, nobody can feel themselves safe, someone here write dont force us to get the vaccine i. We not try to force anybody to take the vaccine, but i think that for us its also aloud to say what we think about all this Stay safe out there

[@laurasteinmetz7684]

I'm so glad you had her there with you. I live alone and almost died from covid also. Had it not been for my mother bravely coming to my aid and staying with me for 2 weeks I would not have made it. She drove me to the hospital, fought on the phone to get me monoclonal antibodies, then took me to the infusion center. I couldn't have done any of that on my own. Could barely walk or sit up. It's amazing the effect of having another human being present to take care of you. It's scientifically fascinating. Bless all who help others in true times of need.

[@kseniyakaryakina]

What happened, how did you almost die?

[@laurasteinmetz7684]

@@kseniyakaryakina Covid is incidious. At the beginning I thought I could handle it. But on day 6 is when I called my Mom to come to help me. My heart was pounding out of my chest even while sleeping. No desire to eat. Had to force down liquids. Bad fever, explosive diarrhea. Worst part though was it seemed to attack my nervous system. You know that feeling when your foot which has fallen asleep starts to wake up and it tingles a bit painfully? Imagine that feeling all over your whole body and it comes in waves. I would feel it rush up from my limbs, into my chest, and head for my brain. I thought I was either going to have a seizure or a stroke. Only thing that subsided it a bit was a cold shower. It felt like coming off an LSD trip, like it weaponized my body's toxins against itself. My body just could NOT figure out how to fight it, and yes, I was taking all vitamins known to man. Nothing mattered. No pre existing conditions either. Could barely walk, could not have driven anywhere, much less the hospital. Monoclonal antibodies were the thing that turned it around finally, and they worked fast. They worked at a time when it was progressing to my lungs. I knew if it overtook my lungs it would've been the end. After I got better I still felt the extreme fatigue, but it felt more like it was a toxin or a poison trying to leave my body. So I went and got an Ion foot soak done and sure enough, in less than a week I was completely back to normal, no long haul. Covid is wretched.

[@dahinnino1618]

Same here! Had Delta in June 2021, was confused in whether I get the vaccine or not but now that I'm going cross this " natural immunity " videos, I believe that I don't need a vaccine! Do you agree sir? But there's a problem, it's travelling, they mandate the vaccine for that. Thank you for sharing.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Thank you for presenting magnanimous information in a tangible format

[@sozzyhunter]

I do trust doctor with a cat! He has a compassionate heart.

[@lidiasajdak8468]

me too! :D nth can convince me more!

[@lenoroshamann6679]

Oh, thanks for the tip. People with cats must be the standard for integrity 😅

[@swiggs1999]

Well I'm about 19moths post covid and last week when I was tested I still had antibodies at almost the same lvls as my first test in May of 2020.

[@uarbor70]

Sweet!

[@diamon4u]

That’s great news. Are you guaranteed immunity to the inevitable variants, too ? Has your health care provider mentioned how durable your current immunity is given you are post infection?

[@swiggs1999]

@@diamon4u never a guarantee at anything in life. I don't get a whole lot of information since part of an antibody study being conducted but I will ask at my next test. But due to covid related long term health problems I have been advised to not get the vaccine at this time.

[@commonsenseguy8189]

I do not think there is a COVID19 antibody test out there.. just a general antibody test... you could be fighting a cold or a infection and still make antibodies...

[@swiggs1999]

@@commonsenseguy8189 no there is a very specific test for it. Every antibody is different and they know the two to look for. Or if you have had the Vaccine the one to look for. For people that had covid they have two types of antibodies where someone with just the Vaccine they only generate one type.

[@electricspark5271]

It's really nice to listen to unbiased, non political studies. Just facts and let us decide. That's the way things are supposed to work.

[@420snoogins]

What? They literally said this study was NOT peer reviewed. You can definitely decide for yourself, but if this is your example you're dead wrong.

[@thejasonstackhouse]

Yeah and absolve you from your selfish responsibility for all the people you infected and killed over the last 6 months letting "you decide" what's right for you and the rest of society be dammed.

[@blnunya6689]

@@thejasonstackhouse Stop with the hyperbolic bs.

[@JKDstocks]

Here is a study I'm finding interesting... Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek's disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts. Author Summary There is a theoretical expectation that some types of vaccines could prompt the evolution of more virulent (“hotter”) pathogens. This idea follows from the notion that natural selection removes pathogen strains that are so “hot” that they kill their hosts and, therefore, themselves. Vaccines that let the hosts survive but do not prevent the spread of the pathogen relax this selection, allowing the evolution of hotter pathogens to occur. This type of vaccine is often called a leaky vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist. This theory proved highly controversial when it was first proposed over a decade ago, but here we report experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe disease. The future challenge is to identify whether there are other types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate these evolutionary risks. Citation: Read AF, Baigent SJ, Powers C, Kgosana LB, Blackwell L, Smith LP, et al. (2015) Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens. PLoS Biol 13(7): e1002198. doi:10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198 Academic Editor: Christophe Fraser, Imperial College London, UNITED KINGDOM Received: January 15, 2015; Accepted: June 11, 2015; Published: July 27, 2015 Copyright: © 2015 Read et al. This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited Data Availability: All data files are deposited in Dryad, doi:10.5061/dryad.4tn48. Funding: This work was funded by the Institute of General Medical Sciences, National Institutes of Health (R01GM105244) and by UK Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council as part of the joint NSF-NIH-USDA Ecology and Evolution of Infectious Diseases program. The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript. Competing interests: The authors have declared that no competing interests exist. Abbreviations: c.i., confidence interval;MD, Marek’s disease;MDV, Marek’s disease virus;RIR, Rhode Island Red;SPF, Specific pathogen-free;VCN, virus genome copy number

[@suel4378]

Amen to that

[@RealJohnnyDingo]

The lecture is pretty interesting, but I'm not going to lie, i'm here for the cat

[@francesgrigsby7400]

Ditto 😎

[@krist.7419]

hahaha

[@LazyMissDaisy12]

Thank you for your videos! They are very helpful.

[@JA-ur8cx]

Oh man, if only we could get all these doctors and experts together that have a cohesive kind and compassionate message regarding covid together, I think we'd be in a much better and far less divisive place. Thank you, doctor!

[@KAREN-rx9pq]

This will happen I've no doubt in my mind you'll see systems crumbling down!!

[@NGP14]

Well said ..

[@michaelscott2381]

Strength through numbers

[@paulasamec8715]

They don’t dare to…

[@hayden401]

Try living in Australia, I mean Chyna. 50% of our population has been under house arrest for longer than 4 months.

[@googlename3859]

When covid entered my system and found the place run by THC, DXM and Caffeine, it just got confused and left. "What the hell happened here?"

[@drtcheapdrifting1085]

Same THC kept the rona away

[@kimberleyraines3469]

geeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr!

[@Alyrael]

@Take Note TV Good lord, are you okay? Did you lose your antipsychotics?

[@vickh3505]

I wonder if there is science here. I'm also steeped in medical thc and had a very very light covid

[@gwadpot]

a fellow cough medicine chugger! 🤝

[@ATXNick]

Clarity without the BS. Thank you.

[@cathlinejohnson1856]

Thank you for the video. Great info and presented in a calm and professional manner, without the political posturing and chaos we usually see.

[@alexvidakovic]

Well, there's a study that shows people who survived SARS-1 back in 2003 are still fully protected from it 17 years after, the study is from 2020.

[@vladim73]

Absolutely 💯

[@alexvidakovic]

@@vladim73 Appears that natural immunity memorizes somehow all the viruses it had contact with, entire viruses not just spike proteins, and it reacts fast in case of all reinfections that follow after, so the person doesn't even know it is happening.

[@amyreinhardt7343]

@@alexvidakovic from a lab tech first hand experience, if an animal gets ill from ANY of the very many coronaviruses, their body creates immunity against ALL coronatype viruses. There were 2 and 7 year experiments. Now, we are animals too so the same would apply since these viruses are being manipulated specifically to infect humans but our immune systems function exactly the same as any other animal. That being said, once our immune systems have been attacked by ANY coronatype virus, we are then protected against ALL of them, including new or more harsh varient manipulations of ANY coronatype virus. My personal thoughts: If the governments are manipulating more coronatype viruses to attack humans, those of us who had the virus itself will be continuously protected in the future. Those of us getting the vaccine with an efficacy of about 42% (average efficacy of current vaccines, both vet med and human med) are barely protected and only short term and will be able to get worse viruses if (when) released into the public. This vaccine is NOT what it seems and there are too many unanswered questions and no absolute testing was done, only preliminary super short term experiments have been done. Also, for pets and livestock, we already have a vaccine that protects against all coronatype viruses, why didn't we manipulate that protected, preproven vaccine for human use instead of creating a new completely experimental, unproven vaccine with many failed trials? Red Flags Galore!!!

[@Marvellousdeath115]

Source?

[@amyreinhardt7343]

@@Marvellousdeath115 Since this covid BS, that information is no longer available to the public and has also been blocked from previous lab techs within the company. Hayband Laboratory, Buck Hill Falls, Pennsylvania. And I entered the data myself as a lab tech. I personally tested the animals daily for the purpose of creating a vaccine for pets and livestock that was safe for consumer consumption after slaughter. The more I speak about this, the more platforms I'm eliminated from but the truth needs to be known. I have no problem sacrificing myself for the truth. Just because the proof is hidden does not mean it isn't there or isn't true. It means we are being manipulated for the purpose of power and money. If you can't see that at this point, you are indeed blind.

[@chriscarlone527]

I'm so glad men like you within the medical community are coming forward and giving us concise and direct information. Thank you Dr.

[@myrchantkobold8268]

So why do you ignore thousands of doctors?? Thousands died getting exposed to the virus for "Natural Immunity" instead they could have been exposed to the protein and gotten their body to respond the same way minus permanent damage or death.

[@user-embers]

@@myrchantkobold8268 why do you ignore this doctor?

[@myrchantkobold8268]

@@user-embers Doctors have specialties and for Dr.Keith Moran it's the digestive system. Now I wouldn't discount him off hand because he might have good points. There is tens of thousands of specialists in Microbiology who write peer reviewed studies who I would listen to first.

[@bradcallahan3546]

50 million people believing the same thing can still be wrong. Sheer numbers doesn’t mean they’re correct, so using authority as an argument just stupid.

[@chadwickprice3761]

@@myrchantkobold8268 explain why you would listen to a peer review first. it takes a lot of backing by influential people to be peer reviewed which goes hand in hand with $$$$$. As far as the digestive system, I would say he has a pretty good idea of the bodies cellular exchange and what it takes for the digestive system to make that exchange to be able to keep the body functioning.

[@christopherwarren4719]

Thank you for your work.

[@cristitabelleza512]

Thank you Doc Moran for the info. God bless

[@fishingdad88]

Very impressed with your qualifications and with so many things on your plate, you still take time to make this video to educate people on COVID. Thanks for your contributions.

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Thank you very much!

[@dayron6637]

This transparency is refreshing. We want mass antibody testing and some real science looking at the natural immunity vs vax argument in it’s entirety. If natural immunity is even 50% as effective that should be more than enough to justify not taking the shot. Leave the kids alone. I can be convinced but will not be coerced.

[@KAREN-rx9pq]

I agree with you absolutely!!

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

"I can be convinced but will not be coerced." I love the phrasing of that.

[@Mrs.Silversmith]

The CDC released a study recently showing 80% of US population has some type of immunity (either vaccination or natural). Tim Pool has a video covering this if you want more info.

[@madmonkee6757]

Why do you want children to die?

[@leedryburgh]

There's no reason for the non vulnerable to get vaxxed kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJO7qamBZs-SeqM

[@laurarl9261]

Very interesting but I don't know if I subscribed because of the good info or to see your cat 😍

[@jimhinkle7245]

Excellent information Sir! I thank You!!!

[@rootssixtysix]

So basically, what you are saying is everybody should do their own research, consult their doctor, and make an informed decision on what is best for yourself only and not be forced either way just because "experts" say so.

[@MedicinewithDrMoran]

Exactly.

[@boogiedahomey]

And make sure you get your research peer reviewed; presumably by the guy who delivers your pizza.

[@billhanna8838]

@@boogiedahomey Why have 37 doctors who have questioned the Governments Virus agenda been threatened with declassification by the New Zealand medical Institute > Something wrong when science cant be questioned ???

[@redsox7897]

@@MedicinewithDrMoran Doc should the vaccinated people be afraid of the unvaccinated people if the vaccine is working?

[@robertdmr3260]

Doctors lie

[@AtracBreezy]

I’ve been on over 10 different planes since the Dawn of covid, walked through airports, go to Walmart without a mask and spent a week in Vegas during the “delta outbreak” with no mask. It’s possible that I’m just lucky but the media makes it sound like if you step outside, you’re dead.

[@semperfi6801]

Same here. Flown to Pittsburgh, Washington State, Colorado, and driving back and forth up the east coast a couple times and it's all media hype because most are not buying into the lies and BS being spread. Most of my coworkers have had Covid and only one almost died because they had multiple underlying conditions.

[@roula5656]

Same, at least since around Mother’s Day 2020, and it’s allll good.

[@justmep.3577]

I had covid, was in the house, not in my room. Cooking, eating together, sitting together on the sofa. My husband slept in the same bed during this time. Nobody in my family was infected....and we are 6 people in a small appartement.

[@chippytwo7920]

take the vaccine though because there is s

[@Goku-cr2bi]

Do you think it might be because they have to warn people of the worst possible outcome so that they arent blamed for deaths of people not wearing masks? I mean if this global pandemic hit and the government did absolutely nothing at all about it and everyone just carried on, im sure they would be getting thrown through the ringer and a lot more people would have been dead. Its a no win situation for anyone, government or civilians.

[@torielise194]

What an adorable supervisor you have there.

[@commonsense7877]

Thank you for your succinct and unbiased summary

[@domtoretto3280]

Blows my mind how natural immunity essentially doesnt exist during all this

[@Mike-gt1cs]

Nobody makes money, uses scare tactics, or grabs power, from natural immunity.

[@runningbreymedina1475]

In a perfect healthy world, natural immunity would be sufficient. However, when over half the US population is obese, natural immunity is much harder.

[@kalebhebert8458]

@@runningbreymedina1475 this is what people need to understand. Thank you. Our nation is so obese, no one takes care of themselves. People always opt for fast food vs taking 30 minutes to cook a healthy meal. People need to take the time to look at the break down of people dying that have certain co-morbitities. It’s quite astonishing the pattern you see when you do.

[@IamMonikaDLC]

@@runningbreymedina1475 Not just obesity is the problem here, it's basically any nutritional related deficiencies that lower immunity and increase inflammatory factors. You're essentially talking about 80-85% of the population. Sure if obese it's worse, but an average or underweight person can be just as vulnerable to these health risks. The diet is a huge part of this.

[@StragglerTx]

I've often thought this , I'm Comanche and I'm proof of natural immunity or I wouldn't be here , my elders was never vax for small pox

[@magnolia31611]

I really really appreciate that you give all sides of the facts. It is nice to find someone who seems as close to impartial as possible.

[@jerubaal3333]

Thank you, Sir!

[@hsh3710]

It is not the antibodies that determine immunity, but the memory cells - B lymphocytes. The memory cells store information about the pathogen for up to 40 years.

[@marino1797]

exactly

[@Rockstarrfashion]

If it's not the antibodies like the vaccine companies enjoy lying about, then why have they now determined booster shots are needed based on the decline of antibodies 6 months post vaccination? First they said antibodies are irrelevant to get everyone vaccinated, but in order to now get more booster jabs (money) into peoples arms they are stating the reason of "declining antibodies" over a 6 month window. So I guess the antibody theory only makes sense when it serves their agenda. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE MONEY!

[@marino1797]

@@Rockstarrfashion and you are absolutely right, therefore natural contagion is better for immunity. Besides, memory cells cannot be calculated yet, which does not change the fact of this great deception. An interesting fact from Poland: the Minister of Health has given an exact date when more infections will occur. How did he know this? Because at the beginning of the summer they planned to do more tests from September onwards, which means more positive tests, which they call infections on TV. The whole health service was told to take holidays until August. From September they started testing. In September they were ordered not to test the vaccinated, and if a vaccinated person falls ill, to report the flu, not c19. At first they called the flu c19, and now they call the same flu flu, but only for those who took the product. so they balance the statistics and continue the lie.

[@Joem2648]

@@Rockstarrfashion yes it 100% is the antibodies that are the result of immunity. what exactly do you think the memory cells do?

[@KingFergus]

Natural immunity is being ignored across the boards which tells me that this is about control not saving lives

[@MrSnead-vp1ll]

I agree but for what ends. So I wonder, population? So is it control, or killing?

[@KingFergus]

@@MrSnead-vp1ll just control and money, the government is paying for all these "vaccination" shots. They use to test pharmaceuticals in Africa on people until the people realized they they were lab rats so they don't do it anymore. I'm guessing Joe Biden and his gang are getting kick backs from the pharmaceutical companies

[@elohellisreal]

Because stronger variants are more likely to mutate from those vaccinated. So they want you vaccinated.

[@Talashaoriginal]

Because aquiring it is way more dangerous, than getting vaxed.

[@KingFergus]

@@Talashaoriginal now that completely depends on who you are and what your medical issue are

[@steinfonell4915]

My severe hcp daughter was infected early May 2020. Her doc wanted to take a antibody test in June 2021. She had fine and strong antibody 14 months later!

[@Blauedecke]

Thank You very much! Best Regards from Vienna/ Europe 🥰

[@ank337]

Amazing video! Thanks doc

[@garyhydeiii2331]

Thank you for making this video and explaining the results of the Israel Study in a clear and calm way, I appreciate this. :)

[@jaeralph1975]

Thank you for filling the holes, having conversations and sharing studies we don't hear about in the mainstream

[@zzim2853]

Great break down of some important knowledge we all need. Now, can we add in or see a video like this showing the risk and probabilities and how they increase in obese people. I see countless medical studies that show obesity is the major factor to ones covid severity. No countries or people talk about it much. Would we not be far better off if our governments focused on personal health when this all started" If Italy suggest 90% of its covid deaths are obese people the answer seems easy. Lets focus on helping people the healthy way.

[@strastoncalhoun6192]

That was a great, impartial, professional way to present a paper as should be required training in all journal clubs. It's important to point out the flaws of a study as well as a strength and ways to improve it. Science is not absolute nor is it "settled." It won't be easy to get controlled experiments of this virus with human subjects because of ethics so observational studies will have to be the best tool.

[@touchedouche8806]

I will always stand by the natural version over any synthetic.

[@eventhisidistaken]

To get the natural version, you have to get sick first. The purpose of vaccines is to prevent sickness in the first place. Those with natural immunity to smallpox are probably better protected than those who have had that vaccine, but does that mean it's smart not to get a smallpox vaccine?

[@rolaki]

@@eventhisidistaken go back and compare smallpox, virus, illness and vaccine to COVID. You’re reply will make no sense.

[@nova396]

@@eventhisidistaken There's a study in Israel that shows vaccines are causing the spread. It's shedding by vaccinated. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGrCZX6focmXqZY

[@daniel-ym9un]

@@eventhisidistaken but none of the covid "vaccines" prevent sickness.

[@gahtsno1]

@@daniel-ym9un but they likely will send you to heaven fast.

[@SPak-rt2gb]

How bout the government come up with an " I'm Immune card" for us people that already caught it and chose not to be vaccinated

[@taverlisk3304]

They need to justify the billions of tax payers money they've wasted on this debacle, there is no way of them admitting that the way its been handled is a mistake, imagine how people would react.

[@lawneymalbrough4309]

They would argue that you could still pass it on which us bogus. The drug companies need money and they are taking it from the tax payers.

[@blnunya6689]

How about the government stay out of my life. I already carry enough "government cards"

[@Sparty1966grad]

Because just like the vaccine card, people who haven't had it but don't want to be told what to do will fake them.

[@TheAlyconaria]

You're not actually immune. You can still catch covid and die the 2nd time around after your antibodies wane.

[@gregcrowe8885]

Thank You for helping

[@GMan269]

13x is average from what I’ve read. Range is 8-27x. Nothing compares to the human immune system.

[@myx.ostankin]

As if the antibodies and T-cells after vaccination come from elsewhere :) Also, let's not forget that in order to benefit from the natural immunity, you first need to survive the previous infection, which is anything but guaranteed. So there is some intrinsic selection bias in the very nature of the study. Anyone who prefers natural immunity to vaccination must bear this in mind. Vaccines guarantee nothing. They just grant your organism a couple of weeks of head start when the virus hits you and starts destroying your body. Sometimes this head start is literally vital.

[@GMan269]

@@myx.ostankin agreed. Therefore the proper approach to this virus is not an experimental biological agent injection but therapeutics that work so the body can survive and do what it does.

[@myx.ostankin]

@@GMan269 in the ideal world yes. The problem is, the "experimental biological agent" (which, by the way, has been in development since late 80s) exists, and the therapeutics that work so that the body can survive, do not.

[@nj5023]

Natural immunity has always been more robust than vaccinated for the history of science with very few exceptions.

[@Paul__108__]

I recommend you watch the video. 7:05

[@madmonkee6757]

But getting it may kill you.

[@ppmnox]

@@madmonkee6757 and so might getting the vaccine, I mean therapeutic. maybe if you have comorbidities then get the vaccine, I mean therapeutic, but if you're healthy then absolutely no reason to get the vaccine, I mean therapeutic

[@JeffKubel]

@@madmonkee6757 well worth it for the real thing. 🤡

[@Galadriel333]

@@madmonkee6757 LESS THAN 2% DIE!

[@bonniebethel1234]

Thank goodness there are still Drs who will give the info and let us decide. Especially for those of us who have had it and got over it.

[@aphotosyntheticworld]

The info this guy is giving is recommending vaccination regardless of your previous infection status. Did you guys watch the whole video?

[@liliapotenciano3546]

Thank u for ur videos..watching from the Philippined.

[@michaelfilthy1858]

luckily youtube algorithm can still refer such video on my suggested list

[@edlauren9434]

Finally, natural immunity is on the discussion table’ Great!

[@shonuff5297]

No it pisses me off that MSM nor the Government dont acknowledge natural immunity...

[@eisbeinGermany]

im surprised google allows this video,other videos saying natural immunity is better get removed by fact-checkers

[@TW-mc9wk]

Is it tho ? As soon as you raise the subject you’re considered to be a weirdo 🤪

[@benjierodriguez6518]

If natural immunity would've taken care of covid19 from the very beginning, we would've never had a pandemic. Just a thought for all of the anti vaxxers.

[@ningxiawolfberry]

@@benjierodriguez6518 We are getting close to herd immunity because of natural immunity and not because of vaccination. You vaxxer.

[@BonjourP]

They must tell us why they're not taking natural immunity seriouly.

[@Korandon]

Gaining natural immunity requires you to contract the virus which runs the risk of dying from it. Gaining immunity from vaccinations may not last as long but runs a far lesser risk of death. What I am wondering is whether receiving a vaccination after recovering from the virus would add any benefit.

[@Frommerman]

One out of every 500 American citizens who were alive at the beginning of the pandemic have now been killed by it. That's like taking a full football stadium, dragging 100 of the people there onto the field, and publicly executing them. Meanwhile, only one out of every ~120,000 American citizens who have been fully vaccinated have gone on to die of COVID. In that same football stadium, that's like rolling a 10-sided die and only executing one person if it rolls a 4 or lower. See the difference?

[@subversivereality3908]

@@Korandon we can conclude MANY more than you're considering got COVID and had no symptoms at all, but were still exposed to it. The survival rate among most age categories is off the charts GREAT...without and before any vaccine existed.

[@bikenut7777]

@@Frommerman I suspect the question was more about why previously infected people are still being required to get fully vaccinated. Based on this and other studies, it appears to be a valid question.

[@Korandon]

@@subversivereality3908 The problem with that is that the reason most reports on the number of infected is an estimation is because they try to take into account unreported cases based on historical models combined with estimated infection rates, so while there may be more or less cases that reported, it will not be WAY more or less. The estimated survival rate is likely very close to the reported 1-2%. Of course a 98% survival rate sounds great, until you realize that that would still amount to anywhere from 2-3 million deaths should everyone in the country contract the virus.

[@clarecavalli480]

Hello beautiful souls. My husband and I are on Day 4 of having Covid. Our symptoms have been the same throughout. I'm unvaxed he's double 💉 it's a pretty nasty disease, but I know we'll pull through it. I'm doing lung exercises every day and moving around as much as my body will allow. It'll be interesting to see what our antibody results will be like, once we've recovered. Sending you all love and light 💛⭐🙏

[@1979wood]

I had it on May 2020, my lungs wasn’t affected I could breath normally. Get well soon.

[@kopklop9146]

Dont be afraid its very important to not get stress, just do youre thing and its over in few days. Ive been tro , when i stop stress corona means nothing

[@clarecavalli480]

Thank you both 🙏💛

[@mikeg1378]

You say moving around as much as you can. Is there something to exercising you believe will shorten the course of the virus?

[@sergeiantonov8935]

Thank you for sharing

[@TraditionalAnglican]

“No Covid related deaths were related to either group.” This says a lot about Israel’s healthcare system.

[@JK-vy8vh]

Or they’re not being truthful?

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

@@JK-vy8vh I assume they are hiding the truth but it would be not very long...

[@HighOctaneVR]

I think it also compliments how fraudulent the US numbers are. The drastic difference in each country's statistics almost paints a horrific picture of the agenda each nation is attempting to mandate.

[@upsidedown584]

Or maybe they didn’t politicize it like the US did.

[@HighOctaneVR]

@@upsidedown584 it had more to do with the US not categorizing the amounts correctly. They chose to sum everything up into one tragedy.

[@ritseeniyah]

Is it just me or does he remind anyone of Mr Rogers? Love the cat playing in the back ground. Very clear and concise. No biasness at all, just the info. Thank you

[@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564]

Brilliant video! Love the neutrality and the necessary disclaimers!

[@gamingdiscipline5425]

Thank you for this

[@petergaja1819]

How good this man is at explaining things. Love your work Doc. Your like a breath of fresh air and that’s exactly what the world needs right now. Looking forward to your next video. Why governments are not telling the people this information is beyond me.

[@jean-marclamothe8859]

Why we don’t hear of Sweden anymore? Their aim was to achieve natural immunity since the beginning.

[@WyoSavage1976]

Good question.

[@michellemybelle9591]

@Leonard Weisfeld like they'd tell the truth anyway...

[@johnscaramis2515]

Because Sweden failed with their attempt? In the beginning it looked promising, but in the end they had more deaths per 100000 citizens than other European countries. I wonder why people still point to Sweden without knowing what happended there, but usually calling themselves "informed". And no, their aim was not natural immunity. But that would also require informing oneself instead of parrotting FB rumours.

[@pleasegrowabrain]

@@johnscaramis2515 Sweden's Covid19 mortality rate -- much like Israel's -- is significantly lower than that of the U.S. If one is truly interested in facts, perhaps this information is useful in determining which Covid policies are most effective as opposed to those least effective (being driven by objectives of political gain and exercise of control over a country's citizenry).

[@WyoSavage1976]

@@johnscaramis2515 Belgium,Spain Italy and the UK had more deaths per Capita then Sweden with Belgium having almost double. France was very small percentage point less than Sweden.

[@madmac113]

Thanks for the objective honest report!

[@listeningmiddle7446]

thank you doc. God bless.

[@morganflagler5592]

This guy is good. He speaks information without bias. And sure, the degrees on the wall are nice and everything, but what makes him straight gangster is the cat house in the back. You just got a new subscriber. Great content. Great cat. Life is complete.

[@rjabraham]

Too bad the cat can't read a teleprompter

[@Rayblondie]

Thank you for this Dr Moran. The Israel study sounds pretty important as there was a large group and no financial bias.

[@applepie9806]

I don't know about that... Israel always tried to look good on the world stage because of their whole Israelis vs Palestinians controversy. They've offered Pfizer the data on their citizens in exchange for earlier access to the vaccines. Also until the studies are backed by data from other countries, we don't know if the way they handle the pandemic affects the results at all. Or if it's even something in their diet.

[@j.sarnak1391]

@@applepie9806 so then if what you say is true and they are allowing Pfizer to do ?? whatever you said, Why would they allow a survey to show that natural immunity is many times better than the vaccine?? I wish people would think about things for 1 minute. I am no fan of Israel, and it has nothing to do with Religion, but they embraced the vaccine and now they are telling the world natural immunity is better.

[@sharonjohnson9315]

I would like to see a case study of people who have never had COVID-19, and never had the immunization.

[@ayurvology7537]

I can’t believe they haven’t gone after this honest dr