Could Our Idea of Reality Be Totally Upside Down?

[@81dilwar]

This clip is a gem. Highest of the highest knowledge yet so simple if we stick to our immediate experience. Grateful to be alive at a time when knowledge like this is available.

[@grantjohnson5795]

Well said and completely agree 🤗

[@spiritfilled5758]

What do you suppose it will look like when we die, will we still have experience?

[@482jpsquared]

@@spiritfilled5758 The key question is - can we have experience without perception? - and vice versa.

[@coreyheuvel]

The great pioneering scientific work Donald Hoffman is doing right now may one day give rise to the mathematics and "proofs" necessary to convince materialists of the truth that Rupert is explaining here and which is so obvious to those who practice self-inquiry. I encourage anyone to check out his stuff!

[@MeskDaKrull]

Glad you bring him up. Was just listening to his talk with Lex Friedman and can only confirm that anyone who resonates with Spiras words here and are keen on a more technical, scientific point of view equivalent to Spiras would rejoice in that conversation.

[@a1librarian]

Yes yes yes! Don Hoffman and Rupert should talk😃

[@joannemoore3976]

I was thinking exactly the same re: Donald Hoffman 👍

[@MindVersusMisery]

@@r3b3lvegan89 Tom Campbell was fairly recently on Spiras channel for a talk about the fundamentals of reality. A very interesting conversation indeed.

[@a1librarian]

@@joannemoore3976 also Mark Gober’s An End to Upside Down Thinking!

[@elzechristinedun6387]

Nothing can beat Rupert's talks in clarity and patience ...

[@vincentleshotho]

Rupert cannot disappoint. He is the living example of what CLARITY means with his teachings. Thank you

[@ameswinslow9859]

You are dearly loved. Thank you for sharing such quality content with us all

[@siriusBhive]

Dàaa m seen this one. The answer is (It's not consciousness), it's cognition! Am i right 😎🖕

[@rickleitch1036]

The world spends alot of time and effort "moving the furniture around" Beautiful analogy

[@simka321]

I just love it when Rupert declares, "It's madness!" Makes me feel all warm inside.

[@polepallesatish]

Insted madness is also Consciousness 🤩

[@johnguillory7759]

The irony: the materialist adopts a belief that puts oneself outside the possibility of knowing oneself (including oneself) as one with "matter" in consciousness! What an self-imposed exile!

[@martinwagner7361]

And an entirely ABSURD dead end street to logic & science ITSELF....because by WHAT MEANS then the Materialist would EVER be able to know ANYTHING ? Including science or that s/he actually even EXISTS ? INSTANTLY Logic reveals by NO MEANS. So the one that cannot know anything tries to know something, lol. Total collapse of reason....😋 Profound pathological & pathetic IGNORANCE. And ARROGANCE. Like too dumb to know anything but so damn special to know something....🤭 Recipe for the mental asylum....😁

[@simonhitchenk9]

I think there is only Rupert, who could de bunk something that, certainly for me, most of my life I have sub consciously believed, so fundamentally, (matter and me separately) and turn it on its head in such a lucid way, that you get that ‘aha, of course’ moment, and in under thirteen minutes ! Genius

[@markmchugh5049]

Amazing, simple direct path to how things are, absolutely wonderful thank you...

[@aureliafox2924]

So clear, so easy to follow without resistance, thank you 🙏

[@RestlessHerbalist]

Maybe one of the most crystal clear explanations of the nature of reality uttered in the modern era.

[@miles6875]

Perfect comment

[@kkandthegirls6363]

Excellent explanation of a difficult to grasp concept. I would like to add that part of the reason we usually don't think that the "real" world is a product of consciousness is because we rely heavily on our physical senses.

[@mariossavvides2287]

And our conditioning..

[@carlavela7106]

In the 80's there was a 16 year old girl, Susan, that she could talk to matter and animals and all kinds of beings. She could talk to a chair, or a table even with a toilet paper. The first time I listen to her was really strange for me, but I believe what she was saying because she said that everything is Consciousness. A lot a people laughed at her. She even took down some videos of her talking to things. Then as she grew up she stop doing these videos. Now she makes videos but they are only about coaching stuff.

[@84sahi]

Yes due to mind and its attachment to our thoughts! Mind and body is 5 senses we got pulled by it in 3D density. But more and more awareness we abide in the self - the less we get pulled by our senses or to say we will stay witness to everything

[@Meditation409]

I will never support materialism....sadly our entire foundation rests on materialism. I want no part of it. This is why I never pursued a degree in physics. I refuse to endorse the staus quo.

[@Aaron_Gentry]

So many people propose that reality as we experience it is a grand mathematical equation, or extraordinarily advanced computer simulation, to cite two examples. All I know about reality is that I AM - and therein lies the biggest clue as to what reality is

[@Thealienspacepod]

Concerning the computer simulation theory, the question is are we the program or the power cord

[@Thealienspacepod]

Who runs the computer ?

[@Thealienspacepod]

@@Poljnmn Yes anything it creates is an activity or an expression of it like a dream

[@Pumasarrar]

Neville Goddard….

[@iamaktewari]

Sage Ashtravakra taught us the direct path many many centuries back. His bold and curt narration of advatia is not popular. Our unevolved binary minds needs a Rupert to get past its stubbornness of binary. He takes pain to break dn the binary into unity.

[@projectmalus]

Of course it is upside down! I wake up and build up the slide from the back side with calculus, here I am at the top and I slide down. The insight or awakening is the shape of that slide revealed by the movement, the shape is true. I wake up again from seeing the difference and comparing, and then the calculus to justify this again begins. Work then play. Eros like a buffer, those little steps up the slope leaving a space. On universal scale too, with perhaps the Planck curve the buffer between the quantum calculus and our moving realization. Two paces of moving to a higher entropy state, but the movement so efficient it all arrives at almost the same moment. Consciousness everywhere! edit: Forgot to say thank you, I must be 'slipping' .

[@AlessioAndres]

Why these guys never get to be presidents?

[@moonglow6639]

I guess because it's silly to want to be president. You will only find unconscious and corrupted people in these positions, no real human being would do such things.

[@MatthewLogan777]

This is why I have a deep appreciation for genuine nonduality teachers. These are paradigm shattering concepts. Such a change in perception can cause a great deal of discomfort but is so worth it in the long run.

[@josevalverde2263]

Materialism is a hypnotic state to keep people dumb.

[@Pumasarrar]

He’s standing on the shoulders of giants, Neville Goddard in particular. Wonderful

[@jorgetfreitas3167]

Rupert Spira emanates his light made of profound non-dual knowledge into the air and illuminates the atmosphere in the form of luminous words. Thank you Rupert for spreading your light in the world.

[@Robinson8491]

Let's imagine the table is consciousness. Then current physics and physical law as the relations between things and energy is still applicable. So whether you call a quark conciousness or material: the science is the same. Materialistic science is still true It's just the question if you want to be able to understand and explain the human inner experience as observer with the structure we are made of, or not. And we are not sure even if we can, so until that is settled this position can still be held. Psychologically it is still always an interesting position, and can be helpful for some. However the fact I can operate surgery on your brain and influence your experience, doesn't look good for this position

[@Robinson8491]

@Nobody Home did you watch the video? I'm replying to that

[@sulehan1]

Thank you. Beautifully and clearly explained 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@Sullivanserves]

Can a thought view you, Question you, examine you. When I was a kid I was active sleepwalking dreamer, The majority of that experience was me finding myself along for the ride experiencing things that I was not consciously thinking of or making up but rather viewing and experiencing things that I would’ve never thought up. Psychologist said the only you can control your dreams, So I went with that and attempted to eliminate the experience as a kid mind you. While I was somewhat successful I was not entirely successful and controlling what happened when I close my eyes and fell sleep. Later I began to consider it a form of possession. My grandfather was dreaming that a bear was after him while sleeping, He proceeded to try and escape and broke his neck. He survived, question is was the bear hey figment of his imagination or an intruder. Your work fascinates me when it’s opening my eye a little. I had considered myself and still do a Christian, but the deeper I dig the more I find the discrepancies and the lies of those that came before. Just wanted to say thank you for offering a little peace of mind that I could search out myself with a little instruction. Sometimes that’s all you want

[@garyjohnson3751]

Fabulous 👏

[@fairygyani273]

Another way of explaining sunyata. The Heart Sutra. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. The Prajnaparamita. Dependent origination necessitates the emptiness of independence.

[@RobbieFrazer]

It’s definitely a more acceptable explanation than the currently accepted paradigm. I don’t think that can be denied.

[@litao3679]

What if everything is Energy/Source/God? Since “matter “ is 99.99999% empty, what is it made of?

[@Workdove]

That was a really excellent presentation. I now know that he is right

[@jasonandfiona]

I’m still not quite there. Why should i imagine a thought and a table are made out of the same thing? I get it thoughts are in consciousness, made of consciousness but not themselves conscious, ok. But thoughts and tables have nothing in common aside from not being conscious. Tables aren’t made of concepts, I can’t set my drink on a concept. And I can’t drink an idea. Thoughts and matter are fundamentally different yet he seems to be arguing they’re more alike that different.

[@nekfraye]

We may not be in a straight contact with matter, but we can see the traces that matter leaves behind or the consequences if you like. And that is how we know that matter is out there. I hope that Rupert will explain farther about, in a future video.

[@garycox3841]

Thank you! This is very helpful, albeit I’ll need to let it sink a bit :-)

[@Anti79Hero]

I want to believe what he’s saying is true so much.

[@Tinamar65]

Now explain this to my husband…

[@MonicaLillis]

I think, therefore I am should be the other way around.

[@paddylinehan8559]

Just wonderful. So precious. So grateful. Thank you.

[@williamwightman8409]

"Quantum mechanics says that classical objects-including brains-don’t exist. I’m claiming that experiences are the real coin of the realm. The experiences of everyday life-my real feeling of a headache, my real taste of chocolate-that really is the ultimate nature of reality." - Donald Hoffman, author of The Case Against Reality.

[@josevalverde2263]

Experience is the ultimate nature of reality-Experience is a bodily sensation in awareness.

[@srividyakrishnamurthy4725]

Why is it so much required to explain everything and know everything and feel on top of all that is experienced all the time . May be matter is true may be consciousness is true ...may be both are true or may be something else is true which is unknowable .....why magic of life can be taken as is as it comes in what ever way ...take it as it comes as matter ...take it as it comes of consciousness......don't model everything and be in a hurry to stanp it done or discovered for ever ....

[@jgarciajr82]

🙌🤯👑🙌👑🤯🙌👑🤯

[@Klaatu-ij9uz]

We're all eternal beings living a human experience at the present time.

[@kimbirch1202]

objects are really thoughts

[@teddybear9029]

Please no cruelty too furniture.

[@luciakopp9317]

Finally ! I got it ! It just need a shift of vantage point and really realise that consciousness is not personnal. Thank you 🙏🙏

[@mofrare]

To me, the atheist materialist view is the least believable belief system of all time

[@mariajoseoviedoruiz6264]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Brillante Rupert !!!! 💙💙✨✨🙏

[@ivanvincent7534]

Material reductionism is a result of suppressed anger.

[@tyvischjager9794]

I commented first so I'm the coolest. 😎

[@ameswinslow9859]

Yeah you are. Kewl

[@snickaren111]

Rupert speaks of three path to non-dual realization - the path of truth(through the mind), the path of beauty(through perception) and the path of love(through the heart). But there is actually a 4th path - The path of being a really cool guy, it also take you to non-dual realization, and you are that!

[@siriusBhive]

Take accountability! Beee keeel 🤭 but these sterilization psychopaths doing irreversible surgeries on children aren't keeel. But what are they?

[@einrad4ever]

wow just so clearly explained, like i've never heard it someone say before. why its always delivered in metaphors when it's so simple? thank you!

[@djgenetic111]

I do not see any reason for the assumption that a table should not be conscious. The same arguments used for the table could be used for a human. We see a human, it is in our c, it is made by c, but it is not c, being a contradiction to the premise that a human is c. According to many spiritual traditions everything not only has c, but is c. I like the phrase "not the body has c, but c has a body".

[@djgenetic111]

@Nobody Home water being in water is water. That is, where I do not see an argument. If anything is in c, why should it follow that the thing is not c?

[@rosiesweeney7856]

I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but If you really listen to this man he makes perfect sense, but like me there are to many blunt knives in the planet, and that’s why this simple thing will never be resolved.

[@patriciaalley1562]

Ervin Laszlo covers this in his book Science and the Akashic field; an Integral Theory of Everything

[@lukeHmorrow1]

This is the only video you will ever need

[@tonynes3577]

Interesting. I need to listen to this a few times. So death (of our body) is an extension of our consciousness.

[@sheikmunjah2241]

Perhaps the fundamental no-thing from which all things emerge from should not be termed consciousness. That Shiva or ultimate reality or the Stillness, is not the same consciousness- quality which experience the non stillness.

[@footballfactory8797]

Where are the flowers! :)

[@SanderSontrop]

beautifully explained !!

[@RikJespersen]

I get that objects are "in consciousness." I don't see that it therefore follows that they are "made of consciousness."

[@RikJespersen]

@Nobody Home Thank you for taking the time to reply. I don't agree that "consciousness is a product of perception," but find that perceptions are among the factors of consciousness. Nonetheless, there' s much in what you say that will require further pondering. Thanks again.

[@jackelinebadu9580]

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti 🕉️🙏 Sat-Chit-Ananda 🕉️🙏♥️

[@robinsings]

Wow..just wow

[@mattskionet]

I fully agree with Rupert here but I would have liked to see him directly address an obvious counter argument that would have arisen as he was discussing whether or not 'the table' is conscious. Okay, the table appears in consciousness, is made of consciousness but is not 'itself' conscious. Now, turn to one of the people in attendance and ask the same question. How do we get around the conventional view that 'this person' is him/herself conscious? I think a possible approach is to distinguish between the appearance of 'a being' and the *experience* of being--but I would have loved to hear how Rupert would respond.

[@josevalverde2263]

Not conscious means not self conscious. Not being knowingly conscious. That is the case of most humans.

[@brentdavius6829]

DirecTV. He's a lil bit Sahdguru 🤡 if you know what I mean 🙏💛🤳

[@kimbirch1202]

God is in a table because God is in our minds

[@kimbirch1202]

consciousness is not infinite, it is a product of the one ego mind, and therefore unreal. Awareness is not consciousness.

[@GeertMeertens]

There is nothing but consciousness. It is simply all there is. As in any dream. Just wake up!

[@karencarpenter1809]

Paul Selig's books teach this concept. A shared field created by consciousness.

[@roxisone]

Wow. Mind-blowing!

[@yogionthebike]

Thank you! I appreciate this very much. You speak my thoughts. I agree with you, I'm just wondering, what is the next step back? I'll add more comments after I get out from sauna. Or maybe tomorrow. 😊 Namaste

[@yogionthebike]

Now I read your about page. Very interesting. I guess we will have an interesting conversation about what "I am". 😊

[@rainrichards8068]

Wow

[@kimbirch1202]

guilt is the cause of consciousness ( duality )

[@innerlight617]

11.46: "untill our view of reality changes nothing we do temporarily to do with any of those issues or related issues will make much difference.."True.. imo our view of reality is more immature than mistaken,humanity is a work in progress...

[@JosephGeraghty]

Without question you have this wonderful gift of metaphor, that effortlessly slices right through to the very center of our hearts and restoring us to the all inclusive Oneness. You are such a blessing at this pivotal time.

[@siddhartha-1-4-u]

be interesting to have you discuss the theory that we are in a simulation. And agree that everything is made of consciousness, or awareness, or what we might crudely say is "god", but I sometimes sense objects without consciousness still knowing themselves in some inexplicable way. For example, not only sound just sounding, but itself "aware" of sounding, and so on. Or am I just picking up the inherent nature of everything being awareness? Comment? TA

[@tonynes3577]

Listened to this a few times. Starting to understand it. So the matter around us, we /you are saying that this is the wrong way to see reality? Our money, our new car, the things around us, the totality of all the things around us? They are the wrong way to see reality? I agree with you mostly. (What about our physical body: it that is just consciousness?) Will continue to listen🙏🤔😄.

[@GeertMeertens]

Yes, your body is consciousness. It has got to be consciousness because consciousness is all there is. As in any dream.

[@knowthetruth311]

Infact you better listen more😹😹this is gold mine hidden on an interface

[@plumeria66]

Basically everything is a dream. A big one or small one.

[@ardentizzy7720]

I have experienced a complete other “ totally real “ world that seemed as real as this world that i experienced within my own conciseness . So I feel I have proven this to be completely true …

[@craigherriot4026]

Can you just tell me the King Lear story again Rupert. I get that LOL!

[@simonburrows1467]

I agree

[@Eliezer-ec1bx]

"Reality," is certainly 'different" from the current movie. In Light is shadow formed, not shadow Light.

[@Karlien68]

There is no dead matter...everything is consciousness. That consciousness might be different and we don't understand that consciousness for example rocks, plants... There is a difference with selfconsciousness...

[@carlosirles8382]

These words are like a Big slap in "my"face, beacause they make fall away all "my" beliefs about the nature of this experience called LIFE. This is a dream, Who is the dreamer?? I don't know, i can't know, i don't care.... What i know is that after the beliefs fall , what remains is LOVE This is my nature , when i'm divested of seriousness.

[@josesantana27]

Absolutely love Rupert. I am new to listening to him. I appreciate his ability to explain complex concepts in a simplistic manner. He is full of grace to those who may not grasp or understand Vedanta. He is really dope Soul.

[@anzefilipic7682]

Every thought is productive, alive and gets manifested, even though we dont see the result of it. Sorry but I disagree totally. Why do you still need physical evidence to perceive something real or conscious? If it came out of consciousness of man, like the table, it became materialized. If one didnt visualize and decide how some table will look like, it would never become such as it is, even though it seems "still". What are our bodies made of? Also matter. You need a leap.

[@anzefilipic7682]

@Simply Myself Absolute brilliance! They say, whey look for God here and it slips, and they look at the other side and slips again. No matter how hard they try. It's existing and non-existing at the same time. It's alive and dead at the same time. It's beyond the material, logical, rational, conscious level. It's above dualism of our material world and outdated thinking and beliefs. It simply is. And always was. And always will be. And they say it doesnt exist because they cant prove it black on white. Have anyone of them ever been in love? Did they see love? They didn't. But they all know what love is. And they all believe love exists. And what does the story say? God is love! Come on peeps...How come you've been sleeping so long? Welcome back.❤

[@anzefilipic7682]

@Simply Myself And a more scientific reply: Take consciousness as an etheric field, or more accurately in my opinion; the field where etheric field gets manifested and expands, evolves. Have you ever realized how plants grow and turn in the direction of sunshine? How nature supplies all needs for all needed species? How we changed through history? There's some great intelligence involved in anyone and everything. There is something behind all of everything. But when we observe it; is it destructive, is it evil, is it selfish? It is always reacting in the best possible way for progression, evolution, growth, advancement. So why interfere? Why be us so sure it's our superior intelligence's ideas and plans and rational ideas so superior, contributing, necessary? If possibly they aren't, consciousness will wipe them away and all of those who propose them in an instant *they begin to interfere with the consciousness' own evolution path. Edit after *

[@anzefilipic7682]

@Simply Myself don't take this so personally. It's us who get offended, because of our offenses towards "it" or "thee". Speaking from my personal experiences, I got beaten down to ground over and over again a thousand times, still am at those present days. Because of what I was saying. Still making the same mistakes.Wishing aligning and feeling it asap for myself first and ofc. for everyone else... /EDIT: And yes, ofcourse it is and always was/will. But in order for us to stay on top, we need to unfold with it. Or wish we wipeout? :) But it's an interesting situation because I honestly see and sense and feel that what used to be the main narrative or "wave" 10 years ago, is a downside up situation today. Can we get along? Or will we stick to the outdated egoic paradigm and watch ourselves disappear? Also, what do you mean by hard? Is a thunderstorm hard on trees when they crumble and tear and die? That's nature of life. Nothing is good or bad, everything is as our minds perceive it. And when the whole woods collapse, the spring flowers blossom few weeks after it :). What a beautiful sight that is.

[@anzefilipic7682]

@Simply Myself I feel genuinely sorry if you can't perceive me as I am, because I am like that. And I love it. The problem in my view is that I dont comply with Your way of how I should be. And that is your problem. Isnt it wonderful how different we are? Can't you find beauty in this? And I was trying to harden your outlook. I am hard. But I am hard in the name of progress and change, and I don't get your point of softishness, which all dark hardcore players make fun of. So is it so productive? Let's leave it in the air.

[@anzefilipic7682]

@Simply Myself Also, I have to add: If everyone of us would be "our true self" as Maharshi intended to communicate to us with his quotes, there would be no conflicts, no profit seekings, no crime for money, because in such state, everything is simply flowing perfectly and harmoniously in our experience. But honestly, does humanity seem deserving of "perfect" ouflook? There's enough fruits rotting in the tropics to feed all humanity. Think about it. Still sending much love and peace. Love this debate.

[@Taoway]

Thank you, Rupert! It makes a lot of sense to me, but if I perceive you, Rupert, are you too an object in Consciousness for me? And when you perceive me, am I also an object in Consciousness for you too? So, we are both subjects and objects in Consciousness? When I say "for me" and "for you", do I mean finite minds or One Consciousness? Or all this just a dream or imagination in the mind of Brahman?

[@golgipogo]

I wish he would compose a simple impossible-to-misunderstand abstract of what he is attempting to say in his faux-Socratic endeavors. Tiring.

[@thenonphysical]

@6:20 Rupert Spira uses an assumption that dreams happpen and/or are created in our own minds. I think that dreams can be build from an external source, and that external source can be conscious or not.

[@rw6836]

This the the worst misunderstanding I've ever seen. Obviously, neuronal functioning of the brain gives rise to consciousness. To say that just because we experience everything within consciousness, means that consciousness is everything, everywhere, universal, infinite, singular, or what have you, is the wrong conclusion. This is spiritual talk, dressed as "science", but is not scientific at all. e.g. Show me an experiment that shows consciousness (awareness, sensing, thinking, feeling) in a chair. You can't. Therefore, that hypothesis is incorrect.

[@Arvy111]

I now know the material world (so called), has no power over me. I could have a nuclear bomb fall on me and I would still be safe. In fact I ( my consciousness) would remain untouched , perfect. That is the power of understanding that the only reality is consciousness ( also called spirit, soul, life, God). And consciousness is not subject to time or space. It is eternal. We are eternal✌️

[@evoo6]

LOL Has this man really no a decent useful job? lol. What is he trying to figure out? ....LOL Haha.

[@JatinderSingh-oz1hx]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@mikemars4028]

Nothing is real...but your experience is.

[@gabrielmaranca558]

I question the table being a single inanimate object. We just perceive it as such as an abstraction, it is just an image of what the table is to us, it is not the real table. There are other animals, like termites and bacteria living inside the table, for their limited consciousness the table could be their whole world and not a distinct object.

[@dwormon4591]

So it's a simulation

[@stanpikaliri1621]

It could be simulation but it won’t change anything.

[@bparcej6233]

We witness reality but interpret it in our own (conditioned) way. Acknowledge the filter(ego) as (largely)fiction and see directly.

[@haunteddeandollsuk]

can consciousnesses live on what a human body ? is it possible to have a near death accident and watch over your body ????

[@vilikthebreeze3047]

This is the reason why St. Peter wanted his murderers to crucify him upside down. It was his message for us how we perceive this world . Find more in this interesting free internet book The Present by Michael Smith. The book reveals the most accurate description of life and death.

[@marie-evelemay9468]

🙏🏻

[@eva9539]

wonderfull!🙏❤

[@catalinavillegas-burgos589]

You are a genious, Rupert. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@awesomezion]

[Is anyone reality different from our imaginary thoughts personal Chsrcter in gods dream of nothing]

[@jasonandfiona]

But isn’t “infinite consciousness” the same kind of logical leap that the materialists are accused of making?

[@MajorCulturalDivide]

There's just this dream of a man on my computer talking about despair in some world.