Could Our Idea of Reality Be Totally Upside Down?

[@81dilwar]

This clip is a gem. Highest of the highest knowledge yet so simple if we stick to our immediate experience. Grateful to be alive at a time when knowledge like this is available.

[@grantjohnson5795]

Well said and completely agree 🤗

[@spiritfilled5758]

What do you suppose it will look like when we die, will we still have experience?

[@482jpsquared]

@@spiritfilled5758 The key question is - can we have experience without perception? - and vice versa.

[@elzechristinedun6387]

Nothing can beat Rupert's talks in clarity and patience ...

[@vincentleshotho]

Rupert cannot disappoint. He is the living example of what CLARITY means with his teachings. Thank you

[@simka321]

I just love it when Rupert declares, "It's madness!" Makes me feel all warm inside.

[@polepallesatish]

Insted madness is also Consciousness 🤩

[@rickleitch1036]

The world spends alot of time and effort "moving the furniture around" Beautiful analogy

[@MatthewLogan777]

This is why I have a deep appreciation for genuine nonduality teachers. These are paradigm shattering concepts. Such a change in perception can cause a great deal of discomfort but is so worth it in the long run.

[@ameswinslow9859]

You are dearly loved. Thank you for sharing such quality content with us all

[@siriusBhive]

Dàaa m seen this one. The answer is (It's not consciousness), it's cognition! Am i right 😎🖕

[@RestlessHerbalist]

Maybe one of the most crystal clear explanations of the nature of reality uttered in the modern era.

[@miles6875]

Perfect comment

[@aureliafox2924]

So clear, so easy to follow without resistance, thank you 🙏

[@simonhitchenk9]

I think there is only Rupert, who could de bunk something that, certainly for me, most of my life I have sub consciously believed, so fundamentally, (matter and me separately) and turn it on its head in such a lucid way, that you get that ‘aha, of course’ moment, and in under thirteen minutes ! Genius

[@jorgetfreitas3167]

Rupert Spira emanates his light made of profound non-dual knowledge into the air and illuminates the atmosphere in the form of luminous words. Thank you Rupert for spreading your light in the world.

[@kkandthegirls6363]

Excellent explanation of a difficult to grasp concept. I would like to add that part of the reason we usually don't think that the "real" world is a product of consciousness is because we rely heavily on our physical senses.

[@mariossavvides2287]

And our conditioning..

[@carlavela7106]

In the 80's there was a 16 year old girl, Susan, that she could talk to matter and animals and all kinds of beings. She could talk to a chair, or a table even with a toilet paper. The first time I listen to her was really strange for me, but I believe what she was saying because she said that everything is Consciousness. A lot a people laughed at her. She even took down some videos of her talking to things. Then as she grew up she stop doing these videos. Now she makes videos but they are only about coaching stuff.

[@84sahi]

Yes due to mind and its attachment to our thoughts! Mind and body is 5 senses we got pulled by it in 3D density. But more and more awareness we abide in the self - the less we get pulled by our senses or to say we will stay witness to everything

[@josesantana27]

Absolutely love Rupert. I am new to listening to him. I appreciate his ability to explain complex concepts in a simplistic manner. He is full of grace to those who may not grasp or understand Vedanta. He is really dope Soul.

[@markmchugh5049]

Amazing, simple direct path to how things are, absolutely wonderful thank you...

[@JosephGeraghty]

Without question you have this wonderful gift of metaphor, that effortlessly slices right through to the very center of our hearts and restoring us to the all inclusive Oneness. You are such a blessing at this pivotal time.

[@paddylinehan8559]

Just wonderful. So precious. So grateful. Thank you.

[@FisherKot]

This is a good one. This one hit me. Not all of his videos do, but some are pure gold.

[@einrad4ever]

wow just so clearly explained, like i've never heard it someone say before. why its always delivered in metaphors when it's so simple? thank you!

[@Sullivanserves]

Can a thought view you, Question you, examine you. When I was a kid I was active sleepwalking dreamer, The majority of that experience was me finding myself along for the ride experiencing things that I was not consciously thinking of or making up but rather viewing and experiencing things that I would’ve never thought up. Psychologist said the only you can control your dreams, So I went with that and attempted to eliminate the experience as a kid mind you. While I was somewhat successful I was not entirely successful and controlling what happened when I close my eyes and fell sleep. Later I began to consider it a form of possession. My grandfather was dreaming that a bear was after him while sleeping, He proceeded to try and escape and broke his neck. He survived, question is was the bear hey figment of his imagination or an intruder. Your work fascinates me when it’s opening my eye a little. I had considered myself and still do a Christian, but the deeper I dig the more I find the discrepancies and the lies of those that came before. Just wanted to say thank you for offering a little peace of mind that I could search out myself with a little instruction. Sometimes that’s all you want

[@luciakopp9317]

Finally ! I got it ! It just need a shift of vantage point and really realise that consciousness is not personnal. Thank you 🙏🙏

[@grantjohnson5795]

Wow ... This is a totally exceptional talk. Beyond anything I have heard before yet, somehow, totally accessible and intuitive 🙏

[@Janardhanpersonal]

Worlds one of the most spirituality specialists and so simple and humble. Hats off to you 🎉

[@mariajoseoviedoruiz6264]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Brillante Rupert !!!! 💙💙✨✨🙏

[@sulehan1]

Thank you. Beautifully and clearly explained 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@souravmukherjeemononyogame5582]

This is the highest teaching of Upanishads... Propagated by Rishis of ancient India.. Non duality principal.. Very well explained by Rupert... Thanks & regards. 🙏

[@coreyheuvel]

The great pioneering scientific work Donald Hoffman is doing right now may one day give rise to the mathematics and "proofs" necessary to convince materialists of the truth that Rupert is explaining here and which is so obvious to those who practice self-inquiry. I encourage anyone to check out his stuff!

[@MeskDaKrull]

Glad you bring him up. Was just listening to his talk with Lex Friedman and can only confirm that anyone who resonates with Spiras words here and are keen on a more technical, scientific point of view equivalent to Spiras would rejoice in that conversation.

[@a1librarian]

Yes yes yes! Don Hoffman and Rupert should talk😃

[@joannemoore3976]

I was thinking exactly the same re: Donald Hoffman 👍

[@MindVersusMisery]

@@r3b3lvegan89 Tom Campbell was fairly recently on Spiras channel for a talk about the fundamentals of reality. A very interesting conversation indeed.

[@a1librarian]

@@joannemoore3976 also Mark Gober’s An End to Upside Down Thinking!

[@catalinavillegas-burgos589]

You are a genious, Rupert. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@jasonandfiona]

I’m still not quite there. Why should i imagine a thought and a table are made out of the same thing? I get it thoughts are in consciousness, made of consciousness but not themselves conscious, ok. But thoughts and tables have nothing in common aside from not being conscious. Tables aren’t made of concepts, I can’t set my drink on a concept. And I can’t drink an idea. Thoughts and matter are fundamentally different yet he seems to be arguing they’re more alike that different.

[@nekfraye]

We may not be in a straight contact with matter, but we can see the traces that matter leaves behind or the consequences if you like. And that is how we know that matter is out there. I hope that Rupert will explain farther about, in a future video.

[@Aaron_Gentry]

So many people propose that reality as we experience it is a grand mathematical equation, or extraordinarily advanced computer simulation, to cite two examples. All I know about reality is that I AM - and therein lies the biggest clue as to what reality is

[@Thealienspacepod]

Concerning the computer simulation theory, the question is are we the program or the power cord

[@Thealienspacepod]

Who runs the computer ?

[@Thealienspacepod]

@@Poljnmn Yes anything it creates is an activity or an expression of it like a dream

[@Pumasarrar]

Neville Goddard….

[@MichaelLittle47]

There are a lot of various definitions to the term "awakening" when applied in a spiritual connotation. Yet, I feel that Rupert here offers us what should stand as the primary understanding of the term. As this understanding then leads directly to accurate interpretations of "Self Realization", and further onward to "Enlightenment". Not that intellectual clarity can substitute for the experience of true Knowledge, yet it can at least offer us a signboard pointing us in the right direction rather than another random detour.

[@peter.cerrato]

Exactly Rupert!!! The separation of matter and consciousness believed to be true by the materialists _is_ the root cause of all conflicts seen in the external world. The world we see "outside" is just a mirror of that mistakenly made error! God bless

[@richardharris2494]

Madness Indeed! Fantastic! Peace to all!

[@Robert_frazer]

It’s definitely a more acceptable explanation than the currently accepted paradigm. I don’t think that can be denied.

[@armaximus]

This is absolute gold!

[@johnguillory7759]

The irony: the materialist adopts a belief that puts oneself outside the possibility of knowing oneself (including oneself) as one with "matter" in consciousness! What an self-imposed exile!

[@martinwagner7361]

And an entirely ABSURD dead end street to logic & science ITSELF....because by WHAT MEANS then the Materialist would EVER be able to know ANYTHING ? Including science or that s/he actually even EXISTS ? INSTANTLY Logic reveals by NO MEANS. So the one that cannot know anything tries to know something, lol. Total collapse of reason....😋 Profound pathological & pathetic IGNORANCE. And ARROGANCE. Like too dumb to know anything but so damn special to know something....🤭 Recipe for the mental asylum....😁

[@andreac5152]

Great explanation of idealism. Only one remark, until we keep calling each other mad, we'll never come to and end with this dualism between materialists calling idealists mad and vice versa. We are all conscious and intelligent being and both have good reasons to believe the one or the other.

[@fairygyani273]

Another way of explaining sunyata. The Heart Sutra. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. The Prajnaparamita. Dependent origination necessitates the emptiness of independence.

[@garyjohnson3751]

Fabulous 👏

[@projectmalus]

Of course it is upside down! I wake up and build up the slide from the back side with calculus, here I am at the top and I slide down. The insight or awakening is the shape of that slide revealed by the movement, the shape is true. I wake up again from seeing the difference and comparing, and then the calculus to justify this again begins. Work then play. Eros like a buffer, those little steps up the slope leaving a space. On universal scale too, with perhaps the Planck curve the buffer between the quantum calculus and our moving realization. Two paces of moving to a higher entropy state, but the movement so efficient it all arrives at almost the same moment. Consciousness everywhere! edit: Forgot to say thank you, I must be 'slipping' .

[@roxisone]

Wow. Mind-blowing!

[@robertoziemer1703]

Brilliant explanation Rupert. Thank you. But I am wondering how long will it take for the leaders in different fields to acknowledge and apply this understanding and what can be done to accelerate this process?

[@SanderSontrop]

beautifully explained !!

[@patriciaalley1562]

Ervin Laszlo covers this in his book Science and the Akashic field; an Integral Theory of Everything

[@Larcey]

Excellent explanation. Thank you!

[@alsdean]

Perfectly spoken!

[@Workdove]

That was a really excellent presentation. I now know that he is right

[@innerlight617]

11.46: "untill our view of reality changes nothing we do temporarily to do with any of those issues or related issues will make much difference.."True.. imo our view of reality is more immature than mistaken,humanity is a work in progress...

[@jackelinebadu9580]

Om Shanti Shanti Shanti 🕉️🙏 Sat-Chit-Ananda 🕉️🙏♥️

[@MonicaLillis]

I think, therefore I am should be the other way around.

[@weareallinthis3668]

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant!

[@lorenavincent776]

For the first time this point of view made sense to me, and don't think I could go back now.

[@mattskionet]

I fully agree with Rupert here but I would have liked to see him directly address an obvious counter argument that would have arisen as he was discussing whether or not 'the table' is conscious. Okay, the table appears in consciousness, is made of consciousness but is not 'itself' conscious. Now, turn to one of the people in attendance and ask the same question. How do we get around the conventional view that 'this person' is him/herself conscious? I think a possible approach is to distinguish between the appearance of 'a being' and the *experience* of being--but I would have loved to hear how Rupert would respond.

[@josevalverde2263]

Not conscious means not self conscious. Not being knowingly conscious. That is the case of most humans.

[@dougbillbeaver]

Thank You !!!

[@sharadha7957]

truly mind blowing ❤

[@pilargarcia6724]

Muchísimas gracias!!!!

[@brendanmaher2214]

Thank you kindly for your reply. It is clear that the ego is perceived by consciousness, The question I was trying to ask in light of the talk was; Is the ego conscious or is it inanimate? Best regards, Brendan

[@garycox3841]

Thank you! This is very helpful, albeit I’ll need to let it sink a bit :-)

[@Pumasarrar]

He’s standing on the shoulders of giants, Neville Goddard in particular. Wonderful

[@Meditation409]

This video clearly sets the record straight 🔥

[@lukeHmorrow1]

This is the only video you will ever need

[@mmgf629]

Excellent! 👍

[@MrOverLimits]

Good video 😊

[@CorneliaMihalyEurope]

Rupert, I love you 🌹

[@josevalverde2263]

Materialism is a hypnotic state to keep people dumb.

[@Yung_Wicklove]

Awesome video. Bravo

[@tonynes3577]

Interesting. I need to listen to this a few times. So death (of our body) is an extension of our consciousness.

[@tonynes3577]

Listened to this a few times. Starting to understand it. So the matter around us, we /you are saying that this is the wrong way to see reality? Our money, our new car, the things around us, the totality of all the things around us? They are the wrong way to see reality? I agree with you mostly. (What about our physical body: it that is just consciousness?) Will continue to listen🙏🤔😄.

[@GeertMeertens]

Yes, your body is consciousness. It has got to be consciousness because consciousness is all there is. As in any dream.

[@T2tcrypto]

Infact you better listen more😹😹this is gold mine hidden on an interface

[@joediamo7550]

beautiful , and why did you say the world "out there" your view seems to encompass the understanding that there also is no world "out there"?

[@miketheman6243]

In the early 90s I found a book, the Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot. In one of the chapters, one theologic scientist suggested that consciousness creates matter. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense.

[@williamwightman8409]

"Quantum mechanics says that classical objects-including brains-don’t exist. I’m claiming that experiences are the real coin of the realm. The experiences of everyday life-my real feeling of a headache, my real taste of chocolate-that really is the ultimate nature of reality." - Donald Hoffman, author of The Case Against Reality.

[@josevalverde2263]

Experience is the ultimate nature of reality-Experience is a bodily sensation in awareness.

[@thenonphysical]

@6:20 Rupert Spira uses an assumption that dreams happpen and/or are created in our own minds. I think that dreams can be build from an external source, and that external source can be conscious or not.

[@JuraGaga]

He makes claim that everything is made out consciousness. Can you falsify this? What can be conscious or not is not matter of this discussion but rather that everything IS consciousness and made out of it.

[@Anti79Hero]

I want to believe what he’s saying is true so much.

[@mikejohn2307]

How does it affect anything whether you say things are made of conscousness or not?

[@Mundo-bn2ho]

I would recommend listening to Rudolph Steiner's ( died in 1925) or read his numerous books to begin to understand that the Universe and man are spititual in nature and that the Universe itself is governed by very different spiritual beings

[@johnhowell357]

Trying to differentiate our language around this subject. Can consciousness be termed consciousness. And our nature of consciousness be termed awareness? This could help to define our individual limited perception of consciousness. We are subject to consciousness, a product of... Thoughts arise from consciousness and are brought into our awareness? The table arises from consciousness, we define it as what ever we want because we are not consciousness itself, we are of consciousness but we are only aware?

[@johnhowell357]

@Dean Mitchell mmm I'm not saying a table can see but it is of consciousness and not because we can see it. Eh tricky one aye, it's all consciousness but I think our language traps us into a state of seperation because we don't have different terms for our awareness and the universal consciousness. Namely that consciousness can be used to describe our awareness and so it then can't be used to refer to the universal consciousness. Just trying to differentiate terms and waffling in while I do it haha

[@johnhowell357]

Haha sure ok, conscious and consciousness are already taken, pretty much means to be aware. My bad. I guess that's where the word god comes in but that word has been so corrupted over the years, too personified. Maybe scious or scence I don't know, grasping at straws haha A word will come about someday, when it's needed but until then we'll deal with the ambiguity.

[@johnhowell357]

Adopt the word for god from another language? :) I'm not religious but I know and standunder the mechanics of this reality :/

[@johnhowell357]

Oh! Spirit!

[@eva9539]

wonderfull!🙏❤

[@sampoornamkannan]

A discourse in any other tongue can also be as sweet!

[@Robinson8491]

Let's imagine the table is consciousness. Then current physics and physical law as the relations between things and energy is still applicable. So whether you call a quark conciousness or material: the science is the same. Materialistic science is still true It's just the question if you want to be able to understand and explain the human inner experience as observer with the structure we are made of, or not. And we are not sure even if we can, so until that is settled this position can still be held. Psychologically it is still always an interesting position, and can be helpful for some. However the fact I can operate surgery on your brain and influence your experience, doesn't look good for this position

[@Robinson8491]

@Nobody Home did you watch the video? I'm replying to that

[@TheSchoolOfLila]

Thank you! I appreciate this very much. You speak my thoughts. I agree with you, I'm just wondering, what is the next step back? I'll add more comments after I get out from sauna. Or maybe tomorrow. 😊 Namaste

[@TheSchoolOfLila]

Now I read your about page. Very interesting. I guess we will have an interesting conversation about what "I am". 😊

[@herlock1400]

Which comes first, existence, consciousness or awareness?

[@HeartFeltGesture]

It is totally upside down only in the sense that we feel we are separate when there is no such thing as separation on any level whatsoever.

[@Taoway]

Thank you, Rupert! It makes a lot of sense to me, but if I perceive you, Rupert, are you too an object in Consciousness for me? And when you perceive me, am I also an object in Consciousness for you too? So, we are both subjects and objects in Consciousness? When I say "for me" and "for you", do I mean finite minds or One Consciousness? Or all this just a dream or imagination in the mind of Brahman?

[@litao3679]

What if everything is Energy/Source/God? Since “matter “ is 99.99999% empty, what is it made of?

[@rosiesweeney7856]

I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but If you really listen to this man he makes perfect sense, but like me there are to many blunt knives in the planet, and that’s why this simple thing will never be resolved.

[@craigherriot4026]

Can you just tell me the King Lear story again Rupert. I get that LOL!

[@InnerLuminosity]

Amazing 😇

[@robinsings]

Wow..just wow

[@iamaktewari]

Sage Ashtravakra taught us the direct path many many centuries back. His bold and curt narration of advatia is not popular. Our unevolved binary minds needs a Rupert to get past its stubbornness of binary. He takes pain to break dn the binary into unity.

[@MajorCulturalDivide]

There's just this dream of a man on my computer talking about despair in some world.

[@karencarpenter1809]

Paul Selig's books teach this concept. A shared field created by consciousness.

[@eamonnspirit]

How did we determine that a thought is made of consciousness?

[@lifecloud2]

My belief is that the table does have consciousness of a particular kind (so I agree with this). (I wrote this comment before listening to the entire video. HAHA!) This exists in its molecules ... it's vibrational existence. This results in a cooperation that holds it together in the shape it assumes. This vibrational quality of consciousness is aware of its existence but nothing more. And this is only the case because it is energetic ... or "excited" ... vibration. This is not separate from us but more of a cooperative action (that's difficult to explain ).

[@ijnet9247]

The knowing of experience. What do we know for certain? We know there is consciousness - that's all we know for certain. 9:22

[@michaelnirmalan]

I have long suspected that there are people who do not know that the "world" is conscious and alive....this seems tto be one of them...

[@michaelnirmalan]

@Dean Mitchell I guess we live in different worlds...

[@michaelnirmalan]

@Dean Mitchell I mean that the environment within and by which I have been generated is as conscious and alive as I can be as well as more so on scales that I cannot as yet perceive.

[@michaelnirmalan]

@Dean Mitchell I am talking about the environment within and by which I have been generated being as conscious and alive as I can be as well as more so on scales that I cannot as yet perceive not about any philosophy

[@michaelnirmalan]

@Dean Mitchell I do not perceive the world as a collection of "things"...

[@michaelnirmalan]

@Dean Mitchell Expression of recognition of the existence of people who have not as yet perceived the "world" as being conscious and alive.

[@mindfulkayaker7737]

12 minutes of a wisdom that could change the entire course of history. It seems to me that natural selection can not explain the existence of dreams in humans they don’t have any survival advantage other than give a hint to humanity that point to the direction of reality and hence the only way to get permanent peace and happiness in the world.

[@asassa01]

" a thought appears in consciousness", "a thought is made of consciousness". I understand the first but not the second. If they point to the same meaning or experience, why using two statements?

[@sheikmunjah2241]

Perhaps the fundamental no-thing from which all things emerge from should not be termed consciousness. That Shiva or ultimate reality or the Stillness, is not the same consciousness- quality which experience the non stillness.

[@gabrielmaranca558]

I question the table being a single inanimate object. We just perceive it as such as an abstraction, it is just an image of what the table is to us, it is not the real table. There are other animals, like termites and bacteria living inside the table, for their limited consciousness the table could be their whole world and not a distinct object.

[@teddybear9029]

Please no cruelty too furniture.

[@Meditation409]

I will never support materialism....sadly our entire foundation rests on materialism. I want no part of it. This is why I never pursued a degree in physics. I refuse to endorse the staus quo.