Could the Lib Dems really deliver their manifesto? | Election 2024 | The New Statesman

[@davidking5765]

The cost of not doing something about the health and social care crisis will be far more expensive every day/week/month and/or year that passes.

[@lightweightben]

Exactly. What’s the counterfactual? Do nothing and the costs are knocked on to the NHS costing more. The social care crisis is causing a lot of the issues in the NHS

[@dmisso42]

As will any action on Climate Change. Are we to wait until a Pandemic sized catastrophe occurs before Politicians take any action? It's unlikely any action will be prophylactic, given the amount of political self-interest involved.

[@bobdigi500]

Ive always voted Labour but I've not been keen to vote for Starmer. Today I've decided to vote Lib Dems. They're prepared to acknowledge the brexit disaster whilst Tories and Labour ignore it like a ginger step child. I dont smoke canibus but i realise those who do aren't quitting because its ilegal. And legalisation would allow smokers to buy it safely and we could also tax it! Labour won't be upfront about how they will fund things and combine that with them not acknowledging brexit and ill take my vote to Lib Dems

[@RJD2838]

good for you i want labour and tory to get 0 seats lib dems cant be held account for the coalition disaster. They have both failed the country its time to give other parties a chance.

[@keefedonk]

One of the most considered and sensible posts I've seen.

[@richardgale1287]

Really don't care how deliverable it is. I just want politicians with *ambitions* to make things better, rather than lying sociopaths. Too much to ask?

[@paulcookies]

Not too much to ask however, it's too much to expect.

[@annatyreman794]

Listening to the Leader today I felt he has my vote.

[@I_Was_Chrispy_Kreme]

I’d love the Lib Dem’s to be the official opposition I think this country would get so much done with a progressive opposition

[@scottsmith1413]

😂

[@keefedonk]

Agreed. The torys and labour have become so similar you can't separate them with a rizla paper

[@stephenholmes1036]

Ha ha ha

[@jaiadixon7918]

Go Lib Dem’s!

[@johnmarvesley1355]

All over Twitter there's talk of the Lib/Dems promising to rejoin the single market, yet you don't even mention that pledge? Strange?

[@Rossy167]

Honestly, they probably can’t to maintain credibility. It’s not a workable policy right now, but the rest of the manifesto is extremely viable.

[@keefedonk]

They haven't promised to rejoin the common market, they've promised to improve our broken relationship with the EU

[@ajuk1]

It wasn't the "Stop Brexit" manifesto that was disastrous, it was the "revoke" with out a referendum policy that backfired.

[@keefedonk]

I think these are very harsh on the lib dems! They arent spending fantasy money, they are addressing the real issues the real public care about. The average person is fully aware of how desperately messed up our health and social care system is, and the average joe in this election will have health, social and mental health at the front of their concerns. I would also say, i believe the average person would also accept a 1p in the £1 rise if it meant fixing our care system.

[@coatfarm]

'They arent spending fantasy money, they are addressing the real issues the real public care about' - I don't think these two statements are mutually exclusive

[@ddandymann]

We saw what happens when a government abandons fiscal responsibility when Truss was PM. Are you really sure you want a repeat of that? What the average Joe cares about more than anything right now is the cost of living, and bankrupting the country will not exactly help that.

[@MS-tg6hc]

That guy doesn’t understand share buybacks. Embarrassing

[@Easternlodown]

Hardly a Lib Dem fan given I’m saddled with an ungodly amount of student loan debt with an interest rate of 7% but this video appears overly harsh/ sloppy. Firstly, stock buybacks are not selling shares; it’s artificially increasing the share price by buying back shares from shareholders. Secondly, a tax on flying could surely be levied at the point of purchase such as with VAT, no?

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

It puts ideas out there, which can do no harm.

[@samthompson7568]

Looking forward to seeing the lib Dems as the opposition, vote the Tories out, vote tactically!

[@scottsmith1413]

🤣

[@emelpolat4762]

Share buybacks aren't "selling shares". Quite the opposite

[@vincilo8835]

I still dont understand how can legalise cannabis and ban smoking happen at the same time.

[@Iosephus_Michaelis]

Well cannabis is less addictive and less harmful than tobacco.

[@Rossy167]

Nicotine is addictive and tar is harmful. I really don’t like weed but it’s not nearly as destructive or addictive, long term, as tobacco.

[@peterwillson1355]

​@@Iosephus_MichaelisAbsolute bullshit. Cannabis is VERY harmful.

[@geepersoilyrag1884]

You vape it or eat it, its already legal for medical use

[@keefedonk]

I think the bigger point is that it's clear the big question to all parties in this election is how are you going to pay for stuff! Legalising Cannabis will create huge sums of money for the treasury! People are going to consume cannabis legal or not, so surely it makes sense to legalise it and benefit from the finances that gives to help fund the NHS and social care.

[@angelicdespot2735]

I hope youre going to be at least as negative about the other manifesto costings. The Lib Dems' costings are consistently rated as more credible than the other parties' by the IFS.

[@judithdavidson2356]

None of them will deliver but I prefer the basic ideas of Lib Dem

[@katharinedavis4947]

That's really cynical to say that a party puts forward a manifesto knowing they won't ever have to implement it . I'm sure that they will strive to achieve these aim in whatever way possible. I can't accept this cynical view .

[@disasterarea9341]

not a lib dem voter but this video missed the mark by a lot

[@RealDareel]

The libDems here are promising something extremely modest and you’re asking HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT😂😂😂 The government deficit since covid is £800 billion 🤣🤣🤣 I don’t remember you asking how you paying for trident? How you paying for Ukraine? Oh but money spent on plebs, how ya gonna pay for that 😤😭

[@kriissyy09ify]

Pretty sure the question "How you going to pay for it" is the most common question asked at every election towards ALL parties

[@RealDareel]

@@kriissyy09ify my point is that it’s ludicrous. But also it’s only asked about certain things.

[@ddandymann]

I wonder, were you critical of the disaster that was the Truss mini-budget? If so you should also be wary of any other party that advocates for large un-costed policies as that would lead to the same outcome.

[@RealDareel]

@@ddandymann that is not right. Borrowing to invest with a plan is not the same as borrowing for tax cuts with no plan. The markets went mad because they didn’t have a plan and it was immediately obvious the currency would devalue and interest rates would rocket.

[@ddandymann]

@@RealDareel The plan was to stimulate growth, granted it was a misguided and high risk plan but it was a plan none the less. Increasing the budget by 10's of billions without funding that spending with taxation when we already have a debt to GDP ratio of 100% also aims to stimulate growth and is just as risky. That's what the markets really care about, risk. Much like a bank won't lend you large sums of money if they consider it too risky financial markets won't buy government bonds if they consider it too risky. Especially when the biggest motivation to buy government bonds is their perceived low risk nature. As for the currency devaluing and interest rates increasing that was a result of the actions taken by financial markets, not the cause of the actions.

[@soton5teve]

decriminalise, regulate, and legalise cannabis and shrooms (Boosting the economy by billions, and saving billions in healthcare) make humanist marriage totally equal (Making same sex marriage totally equal, because it's not equal until this is.) ban conversion therapy totally expand trans rights? I haven't heard anything from any party, on any of these points, seriously concerned

[@RealDareel]

Legalising and regulating drugs would help but there has customers who can afford for it to have a huge impact. But would cut crime a lot too and free up prisons and police time.

[@peterwillson1355]

Sure, they want to eliminate tobacco and nicotine and you think cannabis and mushrooms would be decriminalised? You must be out of your head.

[@RealDareel]

@@peterwillson1355 we usually say wired to the moon 🤣

[@htasul]

because unfortunately it would lose them a huge voterbase

[@peterwillson1355]

@RealDareel how " cool".

[@cv990a4]

What, is she really questioning that a significant reason people don't have kids is that it's expensive?

[@RJD2838]

why i got a vasectomy cant afford to have them

[@jezzystar9953]

Literally ! “it’s rewarding 😞” yeah even more so when you have money and a helpful partner. People are working and working hard to try and survive.

[@kerrynewnham8946]

The Liberal Democrat’s have a heart and a positive vision neither The Labour Party or tory Party, who both have had lousy, miserable campaigns, have. Yesterday The Labour Party were asserting there is no money, today they are talking about potholes.

[@srb0501w]

Pretty sure Will did say it added up.

[@Afterthoughtbtw]

Short answer: No. Long answer: Nooooooooo. They have no chance of getting into power, and therefore any discussion about delivery is meaningless. I'll be voting Lib Dems, because it's a two horse race between them and Tories in my area and the local MP is a joke, but I've refused out of principle for the last decade or so years despite being a 'natural' Lib Dem voter. Spoilt my vote instead. It's been one disastrous misstep after misstep by them. Going into coalition with the Tories, through their - illiberal and undemocratic - disastrous post referendum stance on Brexit (which literally consisted of "we are going to ignore the referendum that parliament promised would be binding both before and after it took place, because we don't want it"), which would likely have caused riots had they been able to enact and which would have therefore caused far more damage to the very fabric of society in the country than Brexit... and they never would have proposed had they thought they could have got into power; it was pure political grandstanding of the very worst and populist kind - and a couple of leaders I wanted nothing to do with. Frankly, it feels like they have been even more out of touch with reality than the Green party (who simultaneously want to cut all carbon emissions and refuse to countenance the nuclear energy that would be needed to cover the peak periods when renewables were in a lull due to, you know, weather patterns. But that's a separate rant about how people to claim to be the solution are often a large part of the problem. Deep breath...). Lib Dems had their shot at breaking the duopoly of Labour and the Tories, but they blew it by cozying up to the Tories, even though their actual policies were closer to Labour. They bet on self-interest rather than the good of the country, and they've paid the price. They might have a bit of stability now, but they don't have the Tory or Labour history to fall back on that will always see them rebound much quicker. You could say that they're on probation with much of the country pending good behaviour. This is their chance to mend some bridges by being a strong second opposition to Labour when Labour come up with bad policy, and a supporter of them when they come up with good policy. If they act like a conscience, as opposed to merely engaging in political gamesmanship, then maybe there's hope for them.

[@asbjrnokkenhaug5465]

The Lib Dems hopefully gain many new seats in the British Parliament. Used to support the Tories. Not Labour either. Vote for the Lib Dems in 2024.

[@daviddack1595]

Vote Lib-dems, force the Issue, Re-Join the EU Now, I want my freedom of movement back and EU rights back.

[@kerrynewnham8946]

Amazes me that more than half the country agree the country is broken and gone to the dogs in a massive way and yet parties without ambition or honesty regarding tax are considered the top two. To repair this country will cost. If you just want managed decline or growth to fix all (eventually), without clear means of delivery on that either, then vote Tory

[@andrewrose7800]

Why is there no mention of the relationship of Davy with the Post Office scandal.

[@oliverleonard7730]

Because it's Tory smears

[@glostergloster6945]

Because its not his scandal.

[@oliverleonard7730]

@@glostergloster6945 Exactly what about asking Labour and Tory ministers the same questions?

[@TunaYoney]

I will vote any party whose manifesto is reversing brexit with another referendum

[@JohnAlbion-xw3ou]

They can promise what they want because they'll be very lucky to come third in the popular vote

[@kriissyy09ify]

Pretty much what all parties except Labour and Tories do every election. The Greens manifesto is a complete fantasy and the supposed policies Reform will put forward are also rumoured to be nonsensical.

[@stephenholmes1036]

A leader with no integrity, No memory or honour on Horizon!

[@dogdadoutdoors]

I gave them their shot in 2005 on the promise they wouldn't introduce student fees. They won't get that trust from me again.

[@keefedonk]

I get that, but firstly this is a very different liberal democrats. And secondly, while I agree the party should have stood up for their beliefs more, the torys absolutely screwed the lib Dems over in that coalition

[@bobdigi500]

@keefedonk That's fair! Although to be fair they weren't in power! But I don't recall that promise and so it's likely I'm lacking on the important details that you take offence too!

[@keefedonk]

@@bobdigi500 oh I don't take offence at all. I totally respect other people's opinions and rights to vote how they want. I'm just saying that this is a different lib Dems, and it's also very very clear the torys can't be trusted and they will screw over anyone for their own gain.

[@glostergloster6945]

So you are going to vote for another party that introduced or raised tuition fees after promising not to instead? Reality is all parties have run into problems with student financing because noone wants to be honest about the costs and how it should be funded.

[@keefedonk]

@@glostergloster6945 I'm with you that no party is willing to just own up to how they've screwed up and the difficulties with it. But all im saying is that this lib dem party is different to that in the coalition, and even then, they got absolutely shafted by the conservatives. I can't trust the torys with anything, I wouldn't trust them with a boiled egg right now. And while I hope Labour win, I'm concerned they are to similar to the conservatives and Starmer isn't strong enough as a world leader. I think our whole political system needs a radical shake up, but right now I do still believe that the lib Dems policies are most aligned with my own, and I do trust them more than the big 2.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

Are they not going to put a penny on income tax?

[@RJD2838]

they will probably raise it to 22%

[@profc9916]

Everything in the Lib Dem manifesto is stuff the rich enjoy already

[@sebharrison973]

Send Anoosh my best

[@nikkihamilton4374]

No! Never will ! They’re of little interest!

[@knightstemplar1967]

A vote for these is a wasted vote

[@ddandymann]

What if you live in a a marginal tory/libdem seat where labour have no realistic chance of winning?

[@knightstemplar1967]

@@ddandymann reform For decades these same old political parties have danced on the merry go round of Britain and achieved nothing, poverty a couple of wars which we should never have got involved with crime at its highest etc etc if people vote for same old rubbish it will be more of the same and decades of it.

[@nicholasboot4241]

I usually like the podcast but this was a tedious hatchet job. They even put on their most lugubrious voices.

[@jopearson6321]

*Would* the Lib Dems Really Deliver Their Manifesto?

[@RealDareel]

Well it’s worth a try isn’t it? To the left of Labour. And they are talking about investing in the NHS not privatising it like Labour

[@keefedonk]

Question is do you trust either conservatives or labour to deliver theirs?

[@adsaccuracy]

Not a hope in Hell.

[@scottsmith1413]

Nobody is interested; they can say what they like!

[@JYT-of8cw]

holyrood should be shut down.

[@johnrawlins6147]

Don't be ridiculous

[@alganhar1]

No. And even if they could I will never, ever again vote for a Party that was willing to not only ignore but roll back the results of a free and fair referendum because they disliked the result. No matter how good their manifesto I will never again vote for a party willing to ignore the process of Democracy as and when it suits their whims.

[@JJONNYREPP]

Could the Lib Dems really deliver their manifesto? | Election 2024 | The New Statesman 1842pm 10.6.24 can they get any to me? i'd read your manifesto as i would green or labour conservative.... reform... same old keywords: nhs, welfare, issues..... etc

[@jackspring7709]

LOL!

[@bringmeneweyestomars]

Disappointing commentary.

[@papi8659]

Charging people on how many times they fly a year is just a silly idea , clutching at straws

[@nicholasboot4241]

Great idea to penalise serial polluters.

[@psychonaut689]

Ed Davey giving off BoJo/Putin vibes

[@kirisinloden1872]

I fail to see how their related. Could you explain that position?

[@psychonaut689]

@@kirisinloden1872 Clowning around, public stunts, trying to show he's tough. Sociopathy.

[@kirisinloden1872]

@@psychonaut689 I dont think you've actually seen any of the events he's been at.

[@DOCTORDROTT]

They could not deliver a turd

[@1957bumpy]

No they have, loads of them

[@Falstaff1893]

Sir Ed Davy the Denial king is just another Tory meme

[@rorywilson656]

Ah yes, every party is the tories in disguise so no point in voting for anyone else yeah? Very good