If this happens, this would be the biggest fall off in history. Going from a major majority in parliament to not even be the opposition would be pretty funny 😂
@joshuacampbell16255 ай бұрын
It would be the greatest political shift in the UK in 100 years at least
@joshyboy19835 ай бұрын
*Points to '93 Canadian Federal election* Like this?
@-atimes3-5 ай бұрын
@@joshyboy1983 more like 2011 canadian federal election, but yeah
@Frserthegreenengine5 ай бұрын
Nah, maybe the biggest in British history but not in history. 1993 Canadian Federal Election would hold that record where the Progressive Conservatives went from a majority government to just TWO seats
@muhammedjaseemshajeef67815 ай бұрын
Yes😅@@joshyboy1983
@Elias_Avraham5 ай бұрын
The rate the Tories are going Count Binface poses a threat.
@themacintoshnerd5 ай бұрын
I think he's running in Sunaks constituency
@Anonyomus_commenter5 ай бұрын
@@themacintoshnerdHe is
@Elias_Avraham5 ай бұрын
@@themacintoshnerd I just read 'Count binface promises national service for former prime ministers' Get's my vote.
@RichardMontgomeryYT5 ай бұрын
@@Elias_Avraham oh my god that's hilarious
@satisfied6565 ай бұрын
It´s insane that still 20% of the UK population are that dumb and would vote for these incompetent Tory grifters! I guess sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons...
@johnburrows33855 ай бұрын
If there's any justice in this world the Tories won't form the offical opposition.
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
I can see them dissolving after the election and both wings leaving to join the Lib Dems & Reform respectively.
@herbivorethecarnivore84475 ай бұрын
People say stuff like this as if people with conservative opinions are just going to fade into ash. Either the Tories are the opposition or Reform are.
@legitplayin69775 ай бұрын
@@herbivorethecarnivore8447One could only hope
@Jack-e5t5 ай бұрын
@@herbivorethecarnivore8447 ash is too good for them
@paulchadwick94195 ай бұрын
@@herbivorethecarnivore8447Reform won’t come anywhere near the opposition will be either the tories or Lib Dems
@aaabbb3565 ай бұрын
Im honestly shocked people would still vote for conservatives given the disaster they have been
@darthvader8225 ай бұрын
Are you not shocked they are voting for a party with the same failed policies as if that would change anything?
@aaabbb3565 ай бұрын
@@darthvader822 Ironically Labour are a protest vote against the conservatives. The labour manifesto has virtually nothing to warrant such a high potential majority. My opinion is it wouldn't matter if it was Lib Dems, Reform or Greens. Whoever would have been leader of the opposition would be a guaranteed shoe in. And we are seeing this with labour
@MEGABUMSTENCH5 ай бұрын
because they think labour will be even worse
@bluegoose78325 ай бұрын
its mostly old people and rich people that are sticking with the tories
@rockallmusic5 ай бұрын
14 years of Murdoch programming and appealing to base xenophobia and culture wars. A large swathe of the population doesn't take an active interest in politics and only votes based on the rare sensationalism that reaches them.
@Clone6835 ай бұрын
Imagine showing this to someone from 2019
@Connie_TinuityError5 ай бұрын
Nah, I'd much rather show this to someone from *2029*
@stephenlee59295 ай бұрын
Aren't most of us from 2019?
@yeetneet53345 ай бұрын
@@stephenlee5929 the thing is our past 2019 selfs probably wouldn't be able to see this as a possibility back then
@loremipsum7ac5 ай бұрын
Imagine showing this to someone in July of 2016
@satisfied6565 ай бұрын
It´s insane that still 20% of the UK population are that dumb and would vote for these incompetent Tory grifters! I guess sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons...
@howdydoobroyt5 ай бұрын
if the Libdems come second that would be awesome
@hazelnut9755 ай бұрын
They won’t!
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
If they did and the Tories lose big, I can totally see the more socially liberal Tories joining the Lib Dems. And make a Liberal Conservative party. While the rest join with Reform.
@hazelnut9755 ай бұрын
@@gameofender4463 thats definitely a possibility. Whatever else I think the status quo is going to be shaken up at last.
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
@@hazelnut975I agree. Personally I like the idea of there being a Liberal Conservative Party and a Conservative Reformist Party. They’d both be economically conservative to varying degrees but there’d be a clear distinction between them on social issues.
@wh8805 ай бұрын
@gameofender4463 But no one is conservative in the lib dems. Stupid idea.
@deadcat81675 ай бұрын
A Lib Dem opposition might actually mean that government is functional and can undo all of the tories mess.
@dftfire5 ай бұрын
Not sure how... the only major-difference I can think-of between 🔶Lib Dem and 🌹Labour is that the 🔶 want the UK to rejoin the EU; 🌹want us to remain-out, but have "closer-alignment". Clearly on that issue, the Lib Dems in opposition are not going to force Labour to rejoin, or have another referendum. So outside of that, where else do the two-parties majorly differ? 🤷🏻♂
@charliecrome2075 ай бұрын
Doubtful. The UK's problems run deep, and it will take more than 4 years to fix
@michaelellis73265 ай бұрын
Not a chance !!
@tmarritt5 ай бұрын
@@dftfire labour tend to be a lot more authoritarian, Less "liberal". The libdems have always been against a national ID card system for example where as labour has attempted to bring it in multiple times. Legalising weed is another example. And of course electorial reform, economically they are pretty close, but with the libdems being more pro small business what with wanting to rejoin the common market, simplifying the tax, replacing business rates with a "landowner levy" (basically a land tax, I'm a big fan of that one personally)
@MrMasterCGO5 ай бұрын
Ha!
@Uqwefsdjxsa5 ай бұрын
I hope the LibDems win so the opposition is atleast somewhat decent as human beings, I’m sick of politics being reduced to a popularity contest in which however insults their opponent “the best” is given the steering wheel to a country. The LibDems, for the most part, have run a very positive and well meaning campaign.
@jasonhaven71705 ай бұрын
More immigration, both EU and non-EU under the Lib Dems
@calahoon225 ай бұрын
Would it be a proper opposition if they're also left leaning?
@ZaFakeFoilo5 ай бұрын
@@calahoon22yes
@2dradon25 ай бұрын
@@calahoon22 absolutely. They have to make sure the government do what they promise and hold their feet to the fire.
@Wozza3655 ай бұрын
I agree, I enjoy following politics but I'd love nothing more than 5 years of just peace and quiet, with politics quietly working in the background rather than shouting that they're doing something. It would be a very harsh lesson for the Tories who may act more humbly in the scenario they came 3rd. I'd hope it would also flush out some of the far right Tories and the party itself moves back to the centre. But one can only dream.
@matthewgotliffe9605 ай бұрын
As a Labour voter, this is my key takeaway from this video; Labour have already won the election and they will likely have a huge majority. The next most important thing for voters is to establish a sensible party in opposition. A party with a very large majority will require an opposition which will ask sensible and reasonable questions and will hold them to account. The opposition should not be the Tory party as they are no longer even close to being a reasonable and sensible party. Get out there and vote and vote tactically if needed.
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.
@aceman00000995 ай бұрын
@glyngreen538 fucking hell mate
@MikeWillSee5 ай бұрын
Don't threaten me with a good time
@jamessteel90165 ай бұрын
It’s no more than the Tories deserve to not even be the official opposition. Get only two questions at PMQs get less money, and even less media coverage.
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu5 ай бұрын
ZERO SEATS!!!
@renaultlover15 ай бұрын
You wait and see what happens. They certainly won't get 0 seats.
@thanksfordoxingpeopleyoutube5 ай бұрын
I believe in Sunak, he will achieve his zero seats vision!
@lordbusiness-qs4ok5 ай бұрын
Nooooo Reform would become the new right wing opposition
@herbivorethecarnivore84475 ай бұрын
I feel like this guy only has one button on his keyboard that just pastes this. He doesn't know how to actually communicate
@volk45235 ай бұрын
Imagine what the gammon typing this out looks like...
@GundamGokuTV5 ай бұрын
As an outsider, American, watching these videos on British politics is fascinating. Especially how unbiased these videos are. I went to Journalism school. We were taught to be unbiased. But you can't find that in American TV. So this is just really interesting.
@mikefish82265 ай бұрын
It's not unbiased, just lightly left-wing, which is as close as most journalists get.
@bmobmo64385 ай бұрын
@@mikefish8226 Nothing is ever truly unbiased but tldr gets closer than most
@antonioross90065 ай бұрын
The mainstream media is owned by right wing (conservative) shills. There's no way they are not partisan... He who pays the proverbial piper, slants the narrative and all that.
@mikefish82265 ай бұрын
@bmobmo6438 And yet it would be easy for them not to be biased. They problem is leftism is baked into journalism at this point and explains why they are widely hated.
@mikethebloodthirsty5 ай бұрын
This is a KZbin channel, MSM is biased, we are getting more like the American media now. Right vs left bias.
@pickleson45735 ай бұрын
The Electoral Calculus MRP also had a second model taking into account tactical voting, which boosted the Lib Dems to 59, and brought Tories to 66, just 7 seats apart.
@chrischarman87075 ай бұрын
Tactical voting is key for the blue wall which is going to fall next month
@chrischarman87075 ай бұрын
What about the ipsos mrp?
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
@@chrischarman8707if you look at the detail of the recent Ipsos poll it has only 24 seats likely Tory and 26 seats likely Lib Dem and then a lot of seats too close to reliably call as they’re so close. With a low Tory turnout and a lot of tactical voting it is unlikely but credibly feasible Lib Dems come second nationally. See stop the Tories dot vote for tactical voting recommendations.
@satisfied6565 ай бұрын
It´s insane that still 20% of the UK population are that dumb and would vote for these incompetent Tory grifters! I guess sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons...
@michaelyap9395 ай бұрын
Even if Libdems may have slightly less seat than Tories, but if MPs from other parties (such as Green and SNP) support Libdems, hence total MPs of Libdem + SNP + Green is more Tories, does it mean Sunak (or whichever joker @ disaster @ liar of Tories) won’t be “leader of opposition”?
@geardo36355 ай бұрын
Nigel Farage: "Reform will wipe out and replace the Tories." Ed Davey: "Thanks Nigel for helping Lib Dems replace the Tories, love you!"
@anthonylulham34735 ай бұрын
Its a two pronged attack on the Tories. Ex Tories fall into 2 broad camps: Nationalist /antiglobalist camp, or Anti Labour camp. When youre a nationalist /antiglobalist - Reform When you cant vote Labour or Conservative - Lib Dems
@jonathanbuzzard13765 ай бұрын
@@arcan762 Counts for nothing in a first past the post system. You have to be able to concentrate your vote in geographical localities to win seats. There is little evidence Reform are doing that. The Liberal Democrats have historically been able to do that.
@thejam-10415 ай бұрын
@@anthonylulham3473the Lib Dems tend to win in middle class suburban seats where people are well educated, dislike Brexit and see Boris Johnson as a clown. The Tories moving further and further to the right has pushed them over the edge.
@Casisking6395 ай бұрын
Honestly I didn’t think much of the Lib Dem’s but I have to say of all the plans I think theirs is the best and now support them.
@powderedground785 ай бұрын
As a LD Cllr & campaigner, I would absolutely love that to be the case. However, we'd be extremely happy hitting around 50 odd. The difficulty we have, is that for years we tried to get a decent vote share (20 odd percent in the 00s) but it was hard to translate that to seats under FPTP. This time, we've got the strategy right, by targeting 60 seats, which on a good night, we win the lot. However, that will likely leave us polling nationally on around 10 - 12%. The interesting thing, is that we finished 2nd in 90 odd seats in 2019. On a terrible night for the Tories, we may get very close or surprisingly gain some of the 30 seats we haven't targeted. At the very least, it leaves us in a brilliant position for the following GE. I'll leave with this. Let the Tories and Grifters UK split each others vote for all eternity and for goodness sake, VOTE TACTICALLY.
@ploppyboothanger46485 ай бұрын
So your strategy involves taxing the poor and dragging us kicking and screaming back into the EU? Eff Off
@stevancirkovic59165 ай бұрын
Well said - vote tactically!
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
Agreed - if you’re a Lib Dem supporter in a close Labour-Tory seat you help the Lib Dems more by voting Labour to increase the chance Lib Dems come second nationally. See Stop the Tories dot vote.
@stephenlee59295 ай бұрын
@@glyngreen538Similar for a Labour voter in a LibDem -Tory seat.
@stickman62175 ай бұрын
What are your policies that are any different to Labour?
@scotandiamapping45495 ай бұрын
TL:DR - Unlikely but not impossible
@bishal-max5 ай бұрын
Boycott SNP
@HistoryonYouTube5 ай бұрын
Lets hope the LibDems do overtake the Tories.
@squidman975 ай бұрын
Labour in power with Lib dems opposition and Nigel Farage not winning his seat would be the best scenario
@tessjuel5 ай бұрын
What if not only the Lib Dems but also SNP gained more seats than the Tories? That posibility is actually within the margnis of error in at least one of the recent MRP polls, although barely so.
@victorokeke33955 ай бұрын
That'd be an absolute nightmare and would turn us into a bigger laughing stock
@SarastistheSerpent5 ай бұрын
@@victorokeke3395no, it wouldn’t. It would be the best case realistic scenario. The fantasy ideal scenario would be Starmer’s Labour, the conservatives _and_ Nigel Farage’s party not getting any seats
@victorokeke33955 ай бұрын
@SarastistheSerpent that is a leftist wet dream with a bunch of left of centre folk running the country, no opposition to any ideas. Its like Scotland during 2007-2021, a national decay. If there is a left wing government, then there should be a right wing opposition party and vice versa. Having the two biggest parties agreeing with each other on almost everything is asking for some dodgy laws to be made
@sharonharris97825 ай бұрын
@@arcan762if you believe that Reform,which is nothing g more than a company is your only hope, you need help asap. 😅
@alexnewport67565 ай бұрын
Would be the funniest outcome ever, Ed Davey has bascially been cosplaying as Mr Bean the entire campaign and could beat Sunak lmao
@frasersteen5 ай бұрын
Genuinely tempted to buy some advertising for the tactical vote movement
@frightday13dragon945 ай бұрын
Free to download from stop the tories and print, they do it as a qr code.
@Donny4275 ай бұрын
Place them all over our cities and post photos on social media. Let's try to have an unprecedented general election.
@Blorp_5 ай бұрын
I hope so
@piotrwojdelko11505 ай бұрын
lib dem should start an campaign to demonstrate that they are not only for the middle class but also can support working class and helping impaired people and farmers and social equality.I hope they will win next time.Labour should be called UBI or tax credit party
@jackmellor55365 ай бұрын
I hope the Liberal Democrats do come second. It'll mean we're on our way to rejoining the EU
@tauceti80605 ай бұрын
And adopting the Euro
@rayc95395 ай бұрын
@@tauceti8060once convergence criteria is met!
@copyer90885 ай бұрын
We’re never going to rejoin the EU we had a vote on the matter and it was leave get over it.
@jackmellor55365 ай бұрын
@@tauceti8060 I'm in favour of adopting the Euro
@jackmellor55365 ай бұрын
@copyer9088 Things have changed since then. We can change our minds, especially after the Tories get hammered in the polls and drop to 3rd place.
@cathallynch15 ай бұрын
What's additionally disturbing is how little the Tories are doing to change course, showing how nasty they truly are. Even when they pledge something progressive such as house-building we can't trust them when they've already had 14 scandalous years to do these things.
@Seeker71725 ай бұрын
I just hope that a Labour super majority and a Lib Dem led opposition will encourage real radical change after 15 years of neoliberalism and Tory failure.
@lordstov85925 ай бұрын
I think you'll find that under this Labour government you'll get more Neo liberalism
@LeonClaesson5 ай бұрын
Here are your main options for the election Labour: Neoliberal Tory: Neoliberal LibDem: Neoliberal Reform: Fascist
@lordstov85925 ай бұрын
@@LeonClaesson I believe the results speak for himself it's definitely time to give fascism a try
@XMysticHerox5 ай бұрын
@@LeonClaesson Not the same flavor of neoliberal however. Also Tories are not that far from fascism. Just look at Reform. Please vote and don't waste it.
@LeonClaesson5 ай бұрын
@@lordstov8592 I belive its time to give socialism a try.
@rufus300015 ай бұрын
In Canada's 1993 general election, incumbent Tory party ("PC") went from 156 seats (a majority gov) to *2* (two) seats.
@howdydoo91485 ай бұрын
Ed Davey seems like a genuinely nice guy
@darthvader8225 ай бұрын
Remember he was part of the lib-con alliance which introduced some of the most reactionary legislation ever.
@sherpafan0335 ай бұрын
Read up about his role in the postmaster scandal. He deserves prison along with Vennells
@jondonnelly35 ай бұрын
He's not. Not possible to get to a leadership position in politics unless you are a ruthless sociopath. It's all an act.
@carlpierce24865 ай бұрын
You mean the only minister to actually meet the victims ? giving Labour and the Tories a free pass.
@theweirdsideofreddit30795 ай бұрын
I really don’t care who wins the election so long as they remember there is more to the UK that Westminster. We’re all just fed up of being neglected 🙈🙉🙊
@himaro1015 ай бұрын
Now that'd be a parliamentary political shift and a half.
@KyleAButler5 ай бұрын
If this happens, I won't stop laughing for at least a year.
@williamblack69125 ай бұрын
At this point it seems everyone and their mother could win more seats than the tories...You Could replace Starmer with a bag of potatoes and it would be more popluar than Sunak.
@havocthecrow87425 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the bag of potatoes would also be more popular than starmer
@zack38515 ай бұрын
@@havocthecrow8742Not going to lie, that sack of potatoes would have my vote 😂
@jeromefitzroy5 ай бұрын
No, a bag of manure
@markwelch35645 ай бұрын
@@jeromefitzroytougher fight, but I still think I'd go for the bag in the end
@MapperJD5 ай бұрын
I don’t think corbyn would
@itamarfridman96915 ай бұрын
I don't live in the UK but if I were a supporter of Labor and lived in a constituency where it was a close call between Labor and Lib Dem, I would actually vote for the Lib Dem to increase their power over that of the Tories, and if I were a staunched supporter of the Tories in that constituency, I would actually vote for Labor To reduce the strength of the Lib Dem on the national level. In any case, I would not recommend for the right nor the left to vote for the Greens or for Reform. In any case, warm wishes and have a great democratic celebration
@thejam-10415 ай бұрын
The thing is those marginal seats don't really exist. Labour seats are generally more urban and ethnically diverse in the south of England, or spread across the north. Whereas the Lib Dems do better in suburban, white majority seats in the south of England and are pretty much non-existent in the north.
@richardgale12875 ай бұрын
As Labour are increasingly wearing Tory clothes, we need the LibDems to be our Parliamentary conscience.
@almudd5 ай бұрын
Yes!!! 🙌🏻
@darter90005 ай бұрын
Seeing the Labour Manifesto, I begin to wonder…
@BCJ19855 ай бұрын
Quite ironic you take that line of thought given what the LDs did 2010 - 2015.
@Joltzis5 ай бұрын
It would be funny if Labour end up becoming THE right wing party, while Lib Dem become THE left wing
@powderedground785 ай бұрын
@@BCJ1985Likewise the difference between Labour now and that 2015-2020, if we are using your logic
@zedtrek5 ай бұрын
I hope so, they are the only one trying to reverse brexit.
@lightningbeast45565 ай бұрын
Green Party went to join eu when the time is right
@AssassinIsAfk5 ай бұрын
@@lightningbeast4556lib Dems are stronger then the greens tbh
@zedtrek5 ай бұрын
@@lightningbeast4556 I think it will take a long time and meanwhile we need to fix our relationship with Europe, have access to the single market. The issue is that the "new" conservative party (reform UK) is gaining lot of support, this will be another disaster ready to happen..
@Bouncer_RF065 ай бұрын
Why would we want to do that?
@LahtariFIN5 ай бұрын
One thing I have consistently noticed is that the tldr jingle is INCREDIBLY LOUD compared to the rest of the video. Please do some audiobalance in the future and stop exploding our ear drums. Thank you!
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI5 ай бұрын
I’m an American and I hope Labour wins and Libs Dems get second Our elections are in November and I’ll be voting for Joe Biden and his Democratic Party (which is center left)
@thysupremematrix43275 ай бұрын
theyre not centre left though, more like reps are far right and dems are centre right
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI5 ай бұрын
@@thysupremematrix4327 I guess
@pianotunez31745 ай бұрын
I hope so. I'll be voting for them. Love the Lib Dems
@straticfox46005 ай бұрын
Could they? Yes they could. Would it be better for uk politics? yes! Also it could mean that the Overton window will shift to the left which would be nice.
@thetreelander73785 ай бұрын
Na bring on an actual right wing shift back to centre.
@Nico-ss9lr5 ай бұрын
Didn't know the Overton window could shit XD
@straticfox46005 ай бұрын
@@Nico-ss9lr Perhaps it can 😂
@Capelett5 ай бұрын
Lib Dems are winning more seats, not more votes. You'd have a largely unrepresented right wing vote.
@JasonAtlas5 ай бұрын
@@thetreelander7378🤔 Erm...back to the right? May I ask what constitutes a real right in your view?
@geofflepper32075 ай бұрын
Maybe it's better for the Conservatives to have less public exposure for a while. They may look ridiculous standing up in the House of Commons in the near future to say to Labour cabinet ministers, "Your policies are messing up this country". It would be sort of like a football player who scored four own goals in the first half of a game chastising the player who was substituted in for him for making a poor pass.
@Lmwpitt5 ай бұрын
Leaving the D Day celebrations to record a TV interview was just beyond stupid.
@bertiewooles30935 ай бұрын
I have been a Lib Dem member for nearly 10 years now. I remember the false dawn of 2019. I am not anywhere near as Delulu as to believe that Ed Davey LOTO is a realistic thing. I would be incredibly happy with winning 50 seats
@andyhill55815 ай бұрын
Let’s hope so 🤞
@mattbooth3075 ай бұрын
I'm a Labour member and I think a Liberal Democrat official opposition would be the most ideal outcome for politics in the UK. Consigning the extreme right to the sidelines and the narratives of the day being much less extreme. Plus, I don't usually think of the Liberal Democrats as having disgusting policies.
@BIGJXXX5 ай бұрын
The end of Right Wing politics in the English speaking world
@Jmcinally945 ай бұрын
What about Greens? I know they won't be the largest opposition but wouldnt that be a good outcome too?
@amyshaw8935 ай бұрын
The greens only ever win one seat in Brighton lol
@mikefish82265 ай бұрын
There is no "extreme right" in mainstream British politics, stop being a drama queen.
@leonardochapman47365 ай бұрын
@@mikefish8226look at what reform candidates have said about hitler, and then come back to me
@aaltag40685 ай бұрын
Holy shit is this system undemocratic. Labour with 40% all the time but fluctuations of up to 100 seats. What a shitshow
@iambicpentakill9715 ай бұрын
It's democratic, but not very representational
@sherpafan0335 ай бұрын
@@iambicpentakill971sorry, but it’s not democratic if it’s not representative. Going by that logic, Putin is a democratically elected leader because he still had some legitimate voters.
@lotter43905 ай бұрын
@@iambicpentakill971it’s not representative of the overall country, but its actually very representative. That’s somewhat the point of the constituencies.
@weird_autumn425 ай бұрын
hopefully, of any of the parties likely to be in opposition they seem to be the least worst
@punishedpinecone47725 ай бұрын
REFORM UK are polling higher than the Conservatives yet you don't want to mention that
@pipoo15 ай бұрын
In vote share maybe, but they’ve no chance of beating the Lib Dems or the Tories in seats, current MRP projections for the LDs put them between 50 and 80 seats, the current highest projections for the Lib Dems are higher than the low end projections of the Tories. This election will be like 1983 where Labour and the Alliance were within 2% of each other in vote share but the alliance won 27 seats and Labour 209.
@terrymann13415 ай бұрын
I would rather see the Lib Dems as the official opposition party with the Tories well behind in a lowly third with Reform coming nowhere, the thought of Farage and his cronies taking seats in Parliament fills me with dread.
@klausjack87315 ай бұрын
TBF, A strong right wing opposition is also important for the UK (at least in a conservative sense). And no, the tories aren’t a great right wing opposition force. I’m also not saying that reform has to win, but representation is already good enough.
@vadoksam92355 ай бұрын
Reform are the 2nd most popular. But will end 4th?!
@MarkHewitt19785 ай бұрын
Video seemed to end suddenly straight into the magazine advert, strange.
@sixtytwo.5 ай бұрын
I agree. "...it likely wouldn't even work" with no explanation of why it wouldn't work.
@repeater645 ай бұрын
Yeah that seems to happen a lot on this channel
@jeremyyang60605 ай бұрын
I would be happy if the two major parties are labour and lib dem in the future
@hughjass10445 ай бұрын
Never mind the Lib / Dems, at the rate things are going, The Official Monster Raving Loony Party could overtake the Tories.
@dftfire5 ай бұрын
They prefer to go by "Reform UK", it's quicker to say 😂
@gamewithadam72355 ай бұрын
Please let them get more. And clean up the pollution in the waste management.
@MilkD25 ай бұрын
SAY IT WITH ME LIB DEM SURGE
@alexanderwhite90845 ай бұрын
LIB DEM SURGE
@JasonAtlas5 ай бұрын
Lib Dem Surge
@bp-lx7lf5 ай бұрын
Lib Dem Surge
@jondonnelly35 ай бұрын
Lib Dem PURGE.
@danytwos5 ай бұрын
LIB DEM FACES A TORY AND REFORM MERGE
@battlep0t5 ай бұрын
I don't think they will, I expect the Tories to be the opposition (albeit with less than 100 seats) but this would be so funny
@DuchieUwU5 ай бұрын
I sure hope so
@PremierCCGuyMMXVI5 ай бұрын
This election is almost like the Canadian elections of 1993.
@Skelig5 ай бұрын
I kind of want to see a PMQs where a centre-right Labour government is debating with a centre-right Lib Dem opposition in which they're basically in agreement on most things
@19932603A5 ай бұрын
Last time I checked, when parties campaign in the elections they campaign for THEM, not against them. x'D
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
I think if it gets bad enough for the Tories they could split into two different parties. The more liberal wing joining the Lib Dems and the more conservative wing joining Reform. So the top three parties could be: Labour (socially liberal and economically liberal). Liberal Conservatives (socially liberal and economically moderate/conservative). Conservative Reformists (socially and economically conservative). Which, to be honest, sounds like a really cool idea.
@howdydoobroyt5 ай бұрын
Except the Lib Dems are further left than Labour so the left tories might actually join Labour instead
@theemperorschosen76075 ай бұрын
Libdems are further left economically than Labour in this election. It's centrist labour, left lib Dems and right Tories/Reform
@NK-vd8xi5 ай бұрын
Where's the party for socially conservative, economic "liberals"/leftists? It's a hugely untapped voted base
@ffotograffydd5 ай бұрын
Except the Lib Dems aren’t economically conservative, so any Tories joining them would have to adjust their economic values.
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
@@NK-vd8xi They’d be the determining factor at the elections. But I imagine if they’re socially conservative they’d choose the Conservative Reformists. Unless they thought economic matters were more important. Then they could vote for Labour for a more left-wing economic plan. Or the Liberal Conservatives if they wanted something more economically “moderate”.
@woodsbannana5 ай бұрын
This video was in dire need of a line graph of predicted seats against time
@jensonvincent5005 ай бұрын
Even if the LibDems get more seats then the Tories, I can 100% see the Tories and Reform forming a coalition so there will still be a conservative counterweight to Labour.
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
If the Lib Dems get more seats I can the socially liberal Tories wanting to merge/join the Lib Dems. Leaving the rest to be absorbed into/merged with Reform.
@ffotograffydd5 ай бұрын
How? Reform is projected to win just one seat. So even if they merge, or more likely Farage defects, that doesn’t threaten Labour.
@jmaitland57095 ай бұрын
I feel like any deal with reform would just make the divide inside the tories even worse. It might even be the catalyst that will split the party in 2 or even in 3.
@ffotograffydd5 ай бұрын
@@jmaitland5709 Almost certainly, especially if Farage defects, which I suspect is his plan.
@kkmac72475 ай бұрын
@@ffotograffydd There are many seats where labour are projected to win this time, but the reform + conservative vote share will be greater than the labour vote share
@MrShikaga5 ай бұрын
I am more interested in what the effect on Labour would be in the LibDems were the opposition. How would that shift their political calculus?
@renaultlover15 ай бұрын
Certainly voting Lib Dem.
@Tymbus5 ай бұрын
Unless the Labour government mess up, which they could
@hornetgamer89805 ай бұрын
Stop The Tories Dot Vote
@craigtomkinson21505 ай бұрын
Vote tactical
@retnaverutharajah63465 ай бұрын
After nearly 60 years of living as a citizen in uk, a liberal councillor asks you if like to go back home? You have no place to go, & you have a family in uk .What would you do?
@vishmaster095 ай бұрын
Please vote lib Dems so they become leader of the opposition. Labours already won , they don't need the extra votes.
@glyngreen5385 ай бұрын
More important to pragmatically vote tactically to reduce the Tory seats than just vote Lib Dem. Say you’re in a close Labour-Tory marginal voting Lib Dem is a waste and it’s counter-intuitively better for the Lib Dems to vote Labour there. It could mean the Tories lose the seat. Labour will win a massive majority and over a certain number more seats gives no extra advantage. The benefit of tactical voting is to reduce the Tory seats as low as possible so hopefully Lib Dems have more and become the official opposition. See stop the Tories dot vote.
@gerardmackay89095 ай бұрын
Tactical voting is the key not voting Lib Dem wherever
@annphillips10865 ай бұрын
Labour have NOT already won, the election has not taken place! It may look absolutely guaranteed but it isn't until the votes are actually counted. In theory anything could happen; we've been here before (1992 anyone?) I'm totally in agreement with those saying vote whoever out of Labour, Lib Dem or the minor parties (only real parties need apply, no businesses masquerading as such) stands the best chance of winning in your constituency. If that means the bin makes it to Westminster, so be it! (Can't imagine him taking his seat though... can he even sit? Perhaps plonk him at the end of a row.)
@pastyman0015 ай бұрын
The best two pollsters on accurate predictions ( and not cutting too many corners) are Yougov and IPSOS.
@volk45235 ай бұрын
Daily reminder, VOTE LIB DEM! Only hope for change!
@lukefleetwood79585 ай бұрын
No, fuck the Lib Dems. Vote Reform.
@volk45235 ай бұрын
@@arcan762 No one wants Fascist Tories or Farage.
@punishedpinecone47725 ай бұрын
Save the country from irresponsible mass migration. Vote Reform.
@spaghettiisyummy.36235 ай бұрын
🇷🇴 IS on the Thumbnail.
@torspedia5 ай бұрын
How can I register, to take part in future polling?
@mrakronyahoo5 ай бұрын
The real question is : "Who the hell still plans to vote Tories?"
@iambicpentakill9715 ай бұрын
Old people
@markwelch35645 ай бұрын
@@iambicpentakill971yep. People who still think they're voting for that very sensible John Major fellow...
@armelfrancois70095 ай бұрын
you'd be surprised. one person I spoke to thought that giving Labour such a large landslide victory (although a majority is important) could mean that they would be less cautious in their decisions, leading to higher risk-taking and thus potentially greater losses (not strictly my opinion though!)
@mrakronyahoo5 ай бұрын
@@iambicpentakill971 old people who hate their children presumably?
@jondonnelly35 ай бұрын
We need a TLDR for TLDR these days.
@eris90625 ай бұрын
If you can’t pay attention to a video for 8 minutes I think you need to go outside and touch some grass, because your attention span has been cooked
@tancreddehauteville7645 ай бұрын
My firm belief is that a lot of Reform supporters will switch back to the Tories at the last minute, as they get scared of a Labour government. Reform will end up with no more than one seat (Clacton) and even that isn't certain. Talk of Tory extinction has been greatly exaggerated.
@annphillips10865 ай бұрын
I really hope you're right. Not that I want Tories within a sniff of power until they've got their act back together (could be a decade or so!), but there's only one worse option than them at the moment and Reform is it.
@allthenewsordeath57725 ай бұрын
@@annphillips1086 No one has really been able to articulate to me why reform is so bad other than not being an established party and screaming racism at the top of their lungs.
@repeater645 ай бұрын
@@allthenewsordeath5772personally the abandon net zero idea in their manifesto is enough for me. Not that it’s the only thing.
@allthenewsordeath57725 ай бұрын
@@repeater64 Abandon net0, because it’s virtually impossible to achieve without nuclear power for the time being unless we continue to drive up energy costs, and thereby decrease the quality of life for average Britains while the people who preach climate apocalypse fly around on private jets, is a bad thing?
@repeater645 ай бұрын
@@allthenewsordeath5772 first of all, I’m not necessarily against nuclear (although I think whether or not it’s the best approach for our country right now is a pretty complex issue that I would want to look into further) But also of course it is possible to make net zero progress without needing to raise prices affecting working people. So much money can be raised by increasing taxes on the wealthiest in our society and huge corporations, look at the Green Party manifesto for example. Anyway having said that, your argument that scrapping net zero is a valid policy because of it not being achievable is actually a fairly reasonable argument, even if I don’t fully agree. But the main issue I take with it is that it represents a Donald Trump-like attitude to climate change. Clearly showing that Nigel Farage does not consider environmental action to be important, which it so clearly is. He’s pandering to climate deniers and that’s a pretty major red flag for me.
@seang20125 ай бұрын
That gadget he is holding sends an electric shock to Ben for him to advance to the next slide. FYI.
@timr60985 ай бұрын
As a member of the conservative party, we are screwed 😐
@TitusFlavius115 ай бұрын
Y’all are getting Faraged lmao
@gameofender44635 ай бұрын
The Conservative politicians brought it upon themselves. The best thing to do after the election is to split up, and the more liberal members joining the Lib Dems and the more conservative members trying to join Reform. Basically, split up and try to moderate both the Lib Dems & Reform. And have a Liberal Conservative Party and a Conservative Reformist Party.
@boryolmung95485 ай бұрын
You cannot stop the big chungus
@danielbenton49775 ай бұрын
Rightly so
@Rob-uv8bu5 ай бұрын
Traitor. No new houses. Rents to high. Give freeloaders everything. Tow them back . Got no guts
@ks47335 ай бұрын
Question to British people. Are the seats decided by the % of vote?
@alynwillams42975 ай бұрын
Yes. So we have candidates that represent these parties and others you don’t see on TV across every town and city around the UK. These towns and cities then vote for whoever is standing in their constituency, then whoever has the most votes in these places win a seat of becoming an MP. All the constituencies at the end of voting are then added up and those with the most MP’s win and the leader of there party becomes prime minister. That’s the easy way of explaining it.
@mnm12735 ай бұрын
Partially. It's based on whoever has the highest percentage of the vote in each local election. So you could have 25% of the vote nationally but have less seats than a party that has 5% of the national vote. However for parties that run in all of Britain it tends to average out such that the most seats are won by the party witht he most national votes (but that's not a rule).
@ks47335 ай бұрын
@@mnm1273 thanks both
@Worldmisery5 ай бұрын
@@ks4733 No. We don't have a proportional representation voting system. We have a voting system called first past the post.
@fantasypvp5 ай бұрын
Tories fr about to be 4th place
@dewaard33015 ай бұрын
We're still very far from 6th of July, and a lot of people that haven't really given things a lot of thought yet, are yet to realize they don't like betting on a losing horse.
@SDrtheone5 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter who you vote for folks, just don't vote Tory!
@djtomoy5 ай бұрын
If Sunak win his seat he will obviously quit when he’s not pm anymore
@rockallmusic5 ай бұрын
Even if the Tories come second, a cohort of uncomfortable Tories crossing the floor to the Lib Dems during the Faragification of the party in the next parliament could drop the Tories into third place mid-parliament.
@NG-uq1vt5 ай бұрын
It's so interesting to see this from the U.S
@MAKGaming305 ай бұрын
Vote reform for real change
@StanTorrent5 ай бұрын
Going from capitalism to fascism can be considered change
@MAKGaming305 ай бұрын
@@StanTorrent So i take it your happy with the status quo. We all should be able to tell by now there will be no change with the currant mainstreams parties they have all had there chance , even if reform turn out to be the same at least we tried as a country to do things better.
@mancno15 ай бұрын
Given Lib Dem seem to be positioning themselves left of labour and focusing on youth vote/ being pro EU I think people are overestimating their performance in actual seat by seat elections. Traditionally, they've focused on hoovering up conservative seats in English areas that often vote tory but want to lean more centrist (but specifically not left like historic labour). Places like cornwall which don't have lots of big unis that all these student focused policies like legalizing weed etc are going to appeal to. Their only hope is labour just not campaigning in historic lib dem seats.
@yardh5 ай бұрын
There is a whole new generation of voters who dont remember Clegg and Cameron forever changing who can and can't afford to go into further education. I would never vote Lib Dem again but maybe there are enough young people to change the outcome.
@VesiustheBoneCruncher5 ай бұрын
That just isn’t how coalition government works. No one gets everything they want. If your standard is that you only vote for a party that exclusively does things you like, then you are going to run out of options pretty fast.
@danielwebb84025 ай бұрын
Everyone can afford to go into higher education. It's free at the point of delivery. More people go now than in 2010.
@yardh5 ай бұрын
@@danielwebb8402 I think you deliberately missed the point there 🤣
@Jytami5 ай бұрын
The graphs show it was Romania all along (look at the thumbnail!!!)
@drownedcactus56185 ай бұрын
WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT CHECK ED DAVEYS VOTING RECORD FROM 2010-15 ‼️‼️
@Uqwefsdjxsa5 ай бұрын
You really think those were his opinions? Everybody in the party is made to vote those ways it’s rare that dissenters come out. That’s why the vast majority of those currently in Labour voted in favour of the Iraq War despite coming out against it today.
@matt37195 ай бұрын
yeah, what the other guy said. Look up parliamentary whipping. A lot of MPs have said how uncomfortable they are with their voting record because if you ever go against the whip you can say goodbye to ever having a ministerial career.
@JoshEastham5 ай бұрын
Need to get them out of opposition too
@kraken1255 ай бұрын
Vote reform
@StanTorrent5 ай бұрын
Sorry, I’m not inbred
@EdgyNumber15 ай бұрын
We can only hope. We need a SENSIBLE opposition that's not backed by media shills.
@IMMAPARADOX_5 ай бұрын
Thank you for great content
@ArtemisShanks5 ай бұрын
Congrats UK voters. It only took you 12 years to rid yourselves of the most disastrous sequence of govt representation in 200 years. The last horse finally crosses the finish line.
@CarlyWaarly5 ай бұрын
Is it April the 1st? 🤣 Reform is the only option, Labour and Tories same cheeks on a stinky bottom!
@painkillerkhalil5 ай бұрын
Reform aren't winning shit😂😂😂
@spiderfandom75925 ай бұрын
Reform are winning... last place hahahahaha
@sudokubeast15 ай бұрын
Hey can someone explain to me how if reform is getting near to tory voting that they only gey around 2-4 seats?
@PhilPouch_5 ай бұрын
Crazy how polls are constantly on the news. "Here's how we think you'll vote based on the small population of people who can be arsed to fill in a survey"
@oldomen37885 ай бұрын
As a future Liber Democrat MSO and a current member. This puts a smile on my face
@CleverRiley95 ай бұрын
God I want this election to go on another year its been so much fun