Could the Lib Dems Really Win More Seats than the Tories?

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In this video, we’re going to look into the possibility of the Liberal Democrats winning more seats than the Conservatives - specifically whether it could happen and, if it did, what it would mean for both the Tories and the Lib Dems.
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[@Portal-Ninja]

If this happens, this would be the biggest fall off in history. Going from a major majority in parliament to not even be the opposition would be pretty funny 😂

[@joshuacampbell1625]

It would be the greatest political shift in the UK in 100 years at least

[@joshyboy1983]

*Points to '93 Canadian Federal election* Like this?

[@-atimes3-]

@@joshyboy1983 more like 2011 canadian federal election, but yeah

[@Frserthegreenengine]

Nah, maybe the biggest in British history but not in history. 1993 Canadian Federal Election would hold that record where the Progressive Conservatives went from a majority government to just TWO seats

[@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781]

Yes😅​@@joshyboy1983

[@Elias_Avraham]

The rate the Tories are going Count Binface poses a threat.

[@themacintoshnerd]

I think he's running in Sunaks constituency

[@Anonyomus_commenter]

@@themacintoshnerdHe is

[@Elias_Avraham]

@@themacintoshnerd I just read 'Count binface promises national service for former prime ministers' Get's my vote.

[@RichardMontgomeryYT]

@@Elias_Avraham oh my god that's hilarious

[@satisfied656]

It´s insane that still 20% of the UK population are that dumb and would vote for these incompetent Tory grifters! I guess sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons...

[@johnburrows3385]

If there's any justice in this world the Tories won't form the offical opposition.

[@gameofender4463]

I can see them dissolving after the election and both wings leaving to join the Lib Dems & Reform respectively.

[@herbivorethecarnivore8447]

People say stuff like this as if people with conservative opinions are just going to fade into ash. Either the Tories are the opposition or Reform are.

[@legitplayin6977]

@@herbivorethecarnivore8447One could only hope

[@user-ib9ky2jo9h]

@@herbivorethecarnivore8447 ash is too good for them

[@paulchadwick9419]

@@herbivorethecarnivore8447Reform won’t come anywhere near the opposition will be either the tories or Lib Dems

[@howdydoobroyt]

if the Libdems come second that would be awesome

[@hazelnut975]

They won’t!

[@gameofender4463]

If they did and the Tories lose big, I can totally see the more socially liberal Tories joining the Lib Dems. And make a Liberal Conservative party. While the rest join with Reform.

[@hazelnut975]

@@gameofender4463 thats definitely a possibility. Whatever else I think the status quo is going to be shaken up at last.

[@gameofender4463]

@@hazelnut975I agree. Personally I like the idea of there being a Liberal Conservative Party and a Conservative Reformist Party. They’d both be economically conservative to varying degrees but there’d be a clear distinction between them on social issues.

[@wh880]

​@gameofender4463 But no one is conservative in the lib dems. Stupid idea.

[@aaabbb356]

Im honestly shocked people would still vote for conservatives given the disaster they have been

[@darthvader822]

Are you not shocked they are voting for a party with the same failed policies as if that would change anything?

[@aaabbb356]

@@darthvader822 Ironically Labour are a protest vote against the conservatives. The labour manifesto has virtually nothing to warrant such a high potential majority. My opinion is it wouldn't matter if it was Lib Dems, Reform or Greens. Whoever would have been leader of the opposition would be a guaranteed shoe in. And we are seeing this with labour

[@MEGABUMSTENCH]

because they think labour will be even worse

[@bluegoose7832]

its mostly old people and rich people that are sticking with the tories

[@rockallmusic]

14 years of Murdoch programming and appealing to base xenophobia and culture wars. A large swathe of the population doesn't take an active interest in politics and only votes based on the rare sensationalism that reaches them.

[@deadcat8167]

A Lib Dem opposition might actually mean that government is functional and can undo all of the tories mess.

[@dftfire]

Not sure how... the only major-difference I can think-of between 🔶Lib Dem and 🌹Labour is that the 🔶 want the UK to rejoin the EU; 🌹want us to remain-out, but have "closer-alignment". Clearly on that issue, the Lib Dems in opposition are not going to force Labour to rejoin, or have another referendum. So outside of that, where else do the two-parties majorly differ? 🤷🏻‍♂

[@charliecrome207]

Doubtful. The UK's problems run deep, and it will take more than 4 years to fix

[@michaelellis7326]

Not a chance !!

[@tmarritt]

​@@dftfire labour tend to be a lot more authoritarian, Less "liberal". The libdems have always been against a national ID card system for example where as labour has attempted to bring it in multiple times. Legalising weed is another example. And of course electorial reform, economically they are pretty close, but with the libdems being more pro small business what with wanting to rejoin the common market, simplifying the tax, replacing business rates with a "landowner levy" (basically a land tax, I'm a big fan of that one personally)

[@MrMasterCGO]

Ha!

[@Clone683]

Imagine showing this to someone from 2019

[@Connie_TinuityError]

Nah, I'd much rather show this to someone from *2029*

[@stephenlee5929]

Aren't most of us from 2019?

[@yeetneet5334]

@@stephenlee5929 the thing is our past 2019 selfs probably wouldn't be able to see this as a possibility back then

[@loremipsum7ac]

Imagine showing this to someone in July of 2016

[@satisfied656]

It´s insane that still 20% of the UK population are that dumb and would vote for these incompetent Tory grifters! I guess sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons...

[@Uqwefsdjxsa]

I hope the LibDems win so the opposition is atleast somewhat decent as human beings, I’m sick of politics being reduced to a popularity contest in which however insults their opponent “the best” is given the steering wheel to a country. The LibDems, for the most part, have run a very positive and well meaning campaign.

[@ActuallyJamesS]

Yeah Ed Davey is likeable but the Lib Dems still don't make any sense as a party, their core identity is completely different everytime they come to the ballot box, and everytime they are still primarily looking for Tory voters rebelling against the Conservatives.

[@jasonhaven7170]

More immigration, both EU and non-EU under the Lib Dems

[@calahoon22]

Would it be a proper opposition if they're also left leaning?

[@ZaFakeFoilo]

​@@calahoon22yes

[@2dradon2]

​@@calahoon22 absolutely. They have to make sure the government do what they promise and hold their feet to the fire.

[@matthewgotliffe960]

As a Labour voter, this is my key takeaway from this video; Labour have already won the election and they will likely have a huge majority. The next most important thing for voters is to establish a sensible party in opposition. A party with a very large majority will require an opposition which will ask sensible and reasonable questions and will hold them to account. The opposition should not be the Tory party as they are no longer even close to being a reasonable and sensible party. Get out there and vote and vote tactically if needed.

[@glyngreen538]

Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.

[@glyngreen538]

Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.

[@glyngreen538]

Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.

[@glyngreen538]

Yeah see stop the Tories dot vote - they’re regarded as the best tactical voting site.

[@aceman0000099]

​@glyngreen538 fucking hell mate

[@MikeWillSee]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

ZERO SEATS!!!

[@renaultlover1]

You wait and see what happens. They certainly won't get 0 seats.

[@thanksfordoxingpeopleyoutube]

I believe in Sunak, he will achieve his zero seats vision!

[@lordbusiness-qs4ok]

Nooooo Reform would become the new right wing opposition

[@herbivorethecarnivore8447]

I feel like this guy only has one button on his keyboard that just pastes this. He doesn't know how to actually communicate

[@volk4523]

Imagine what the gammon typing this out looks like...

[@jackmellor5536]

I hope the Liberal Democrats do come second. It'll mean we're on our way to rejoining the EU

[@tauceti8060]

And adopting the Euro

[@rayc9539]

​@@tauceti8060once convergence criteria is met!

[@glyngreen538]

Remember to vote tactically to help this happen - in some seats this will mean voting Labour to help the Lib Dems more, where it’s a close Labour-Tory seat. Labour are going to win a landslide anyway and it doesn’t really meaningfully matter by how much - the more important goal is to reduce the Tories to as few seats as possible to have the Lib Dems second nationally and the official opposition. Lookup ‘Stop The Tories dot vote’ for suggested anti Tory tactical voting recommendations.

[@Kreze202]

If this makes the Tories come 4th behind Reform and LibDems I'd be laughing my ass of

[@nienke7713]

Also, if you want a stronger LibDem opposition: Vote LibDem if it's a race between Labour and LibDems (or LibDems and anyone else) Furthermore, considering how massive Labour is predicted to get, it may also be worth considering not Voting Labour unless they're the most likely candidate to beat the Tories, that way you can slightly tone them down and create a more healthy opposition from other more constructive parties (aside from LibDems: Greens, SNP, and Plaid)

[@jamessteel9016]

It’s no more than the Tories deserve to not even be the official opposition. Get only two questions at PMQs get less money, and even less media coverage.

[@richardgale1287]

As Labour are increasingly wearing Tory clothes, we need the LibDems to be our Parliamentary conscience.

[@almudd]

Yes!!! 🙌🏻

[@darter9000]

Seeing the Labour Manifesto, I begin to wonder…

[@BCJ1985]

Quite ironic you take that line of thought given what the LDs did 2010 - 2015.

[@Joltzis]

It would be funny if Labour end up becoming THE right wing party, while Lib Dem become THE left wing

[@powderedground78]

​@@BCJ1985Likewise the difference between Labour now and that 2015-2020, if we are using your logic

[@Casisking639]

Honestly I didn’t think much of the Lib Dem’s but I have to say of all the plans I think theirs is the best and now support them.

[@GundamGokuTV]

As an outsider, American, watching these videos on British politics is fascinating. Especially how unbiased these videos are. I went to Journalism school. We were taught to be unbiased. But you can't find that in American TV. So this is just really interesting.

[@mikefish8226]

It's not unbiased, just lightly left-wing, which is as close as most journalists get.

[@bmobmo6438]

@@mikefish8226 Nothing is ever truly unbiased but tldr gets closer than most

[@antonioross9006]

The mainstream media is owned by right wing (conservative) shills. There's no way they are not partisan... He who pays the proverbial piper, slants the narrative and all that.

[@mikefish8226]

@bmobmo6438 And yet it would be easy for them not to be biased. They problem is leftism is baked into journalism at this point and explains why they are widely hated.

[@mikethebloodthirsty]

This is a KZbin channel, MSM is biased, we are getting more like the American media now. Right vs left bias.

[@geardo3635]

Nigel Farage: "Reform will wipe out and replace the Tories." Ed Davey: "Thanks Nigel for helping Lib Dems replace the Tories, love you!"

[@arcan762]

Reform are massively ahead.

[@anthonylulham3473]

Its a two pronged attack on the Tories. Ex Tories fall into 2 broad camps: Nationalist /antiglobalist camp, or Anti Labour camp. When youre a nationalist /antiglobalist - Reform When you cant vote Labour or Conservative - Lib Dems

[@jonathanbuzzard1376]

@@arcan762 Counts for nothing in a first past the post system. You have to be able to concentrate your vote in geographical localities to win seats. There is little evidence Reform are doing that. The Liberal Democrats have historically been able to do that.

[@squidman97]

Labour in power with Lib dems opposition and Nigel Farage not winning his seat would be the best scenario

[@tessjuel]

What if not only the Lib Dems but also SNP gained more seats than the Tories? That posibility is actually within the margnis of error in at least one of the recent MRP polls, although barely so.

[@victorokeke3395]

That'd be an absolute nightmare and would turn us into a bigger laughing stock

[@SarastistheSerpent]

@@victorokeke3395no, it wouldn’t. It would be the best case realistic scenario. The fantasy ideal scenario would be Starmer’s Labour, the conservatives _and_ Nigel Farage’s party not getting any seats

[@victorokeke3395]

@SarastistheSerpent that is a leftist wet dream with a bunch of left of centre folk running the country, no opposition to any ideas. Its like Scotland during 2007-2021, a national decay. If there is a left wing government, then there should be a right wing opposition party and vice versa. Having the two biggest parties agreeing with each other on almost everything is asking for some dodgy laws to be made

[@arcan762]

Reform are our only hope

[@powderedground78]

As a LD Cllr & campaigner, I would absolutely love that to be the case. However, we'd be extremely happy hitting around 50 odd. The difficulty we have, is that for years we tried to get a decent vote share (20 odd percent in the 00s) but it was hard to translate that to seats under FPTP. This time, we've got the strategy right, by targeting 60 seats, which on a good night, we win the lot. However, that will likely leave us polling nationally on around 10 - 12%. The interesting thing, is that we finished 2nd in 90 odd seats in 2019. On a terrible night for the Tories, we may get very close or surprisingly gain some of the 30 seats we haven't targeted. At the very least, it leaves us in a brilliant position for the following GE. I'll leave with this. Let the Tories and Grifters UK split each others vote for all eternity and for goodness sake, VOTE TACTICALLY.

[@ploppyboothanger4648]

So your strategy involves taxing the poor and dragging us kicking and screaming back into the EU? Eff Off

[@stevancirkovic5916]

Well said - vote tactically!

[@glyngreen538]

Agreed - if you’re a Lib Dem supporter in a close Labour-Tory seat you help the Lib Dems more by voting Labour to increase the chance Lib Dems come second nationally. See Stop the Tories dot vote.

[@stephenlee5929]

@@glyngreen538Similar for a Labour voter in a LibDem -Tory seat.

[@stickman6217]

What are your policies that are any different to Labour?

[@pickleson4573]

The Electoral Calculus MRP also had a second model taking into account tactical voting, which boosted the Lib Dems to 59, and brought Tories to 66, just 7 seats apart.

[@chrischarman8707]

Tactical voting is key for the blue wall which is going to fall next month

[@chrischarman8707]

What about the ipsos mrp?

[@glyngreen538]

@@chrischarman8707if you look at the detail of the recent Ipsos poll it has only 24 seats likely Tory and 26 seats likely Lib Dem and then a lot of seats too close to reliably call as they’re so close. With a low Tory turnout and a lot of tactical voting it is unlikely but credibly feasible Lib Dems come second nationally. See stop the Tories dot vote for tactical voting recommendations.

[@satisfied656]

It´s insane that still 20% of the UK population are that dumb and would vote for these incompetent Tory grifters! I guess sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons...

[@michaelyap939]

Even if Libdems may have slightly less seat than Tories, but if MPs from other parties (such as Green and SNP) support Libdems, hence total MPs of Libdem + SNP + Green is more Tories, does it mean Sunak (or whichever joker @ disaster @ liar of Tories) won’t be “leader of opposition”?

[@scotandiamapping4549]

TL:DR - Unlikely but not impossible

[@bishal-max]

Boycott SNP

[@KrzysztofSzkodaGames]

I would say yes because the Lib Dems wanted the UK to rejoin the EU single market and freedom of movement is the best policy for the British people.

[@rayc9539]

And that's still their policy. Basically, if you're anti brexit, vote Liberal Democrats, if you're pro brexit, vote reform (Nigel proposes he will go further and have us leave ECHR).

[@KrzysztofSzkodaGames]

@@rayc9539 But only small percentage wanted Adolf Farage

[@howdydoo9148]

Ed Davey seems like a genuinely nice guy

[@darthvader822]

Remember he was part of the lib-con alliance which introduced some of the most reactionary legislation ever.

[@sherpafan033]

Read up about his role in the postmaster scandal. He deserves prison along with Vennells

[@jondonnelly4831]

He's not. Not possible to get to a leadership position in politics unless you are a ruthless sociopath. It's all an act.

[@carlpierce2486]

You mean the only minister to actually meet the victims ? giving Labour and the Tories a free pass.

[@theweirdsideofreddit3079]

I really don’t care who wins the election so long as they remember there is more to the UK that Westminster. We’re all just fed up of being neglected 🙈🙉🙊

[@Blorp_]

I hope so

[@piotrwojdelko1150]

lib dem should start an campaign to demonstrate that they are not only for the middle class but also can support working class and helping impaired people and farmers and social equality.I hope they will win next time.Labour should be called UBI or tax credit party

[@KyleAButler]

If this happens, I won't stop laughing for at least a year.

[@Seeker7172]

I just hope that a Labour super majority and a Lib Dem led opposition will encourage real radical change after 15 years of neoliberalism and Tory failure.

[@lordstov8592]

I think you'll find that under this Labour government you'll get more Neo liberalism

[@LeonClaesson]

Here are your main options for the election Labour: Neoliberal Tory: Neoliberal LibDem: Neoliberal Reform: Fascist

[@lordstov8592]

@@LeonClaesson I believe the results speak for himself it's definitely time to give fascism a try

[@XMysticHerox]

@@LeonClaesson Not the same flavor of neoliberal however. Also Tories are not that far from fascism. Just look at Reform. Please vote and don't waste it.

[@LeonClaesson]

@@lordstov8592 I belive its time to give socialism a try.

[@cathallynch8269]

What's additionally disturbing is how little the Tories are doing to change course, showing how nasty they truly are. Even when they pledge something progressive such as house-building we can't trust them when they've already had 14 scandalous years to do these things.

[@williamblack6912]

At this point it seems everyone and their mother could win more seats than the tories...You Could replace Starmer with a bag of potatoes and it would be more popluar than Sunak.

[@havocthecrow8742]

Pretty sure the bag of potatoes would also be more popular than starmer

[@zack3851]

​@@havocthecrow8742Not going to lie, that sack of potatoes would have my vote 😂

[@jeromefitzroy]

No, a bag of manure

[@markwelch3564]

​@@jeromefitzroytougher fight, but I still think I'd go for the bag in the end

[@MapperJD]

I don’t think corbyn would

[@HistoryonYouTube]

Lets hope the LibDems do overtake the Tories.

[@reno.zed1]

I hope so, they are the only one trying to reverse brexit.

[@lightningbeast4556]

Green Party went to join eu when the time is right

[@AssassinIsAfk]

​@@lightningbeast4556lib Dems are stronger then the greens tbh

[@reno.zed1]

@@lightningbeast4556 I think it will take a long time and meanwhile we need to fix our relationship with Europe, have access to the single market. The issue is that the "new" conservative party (reform UK) is gaining lot of support, this will be another disaster ready to happen..

[@Bouncer_RH06]

Why would we want to do that?

[@frasersteen]

Genuinely tempted to buy some advertising for the tactical vote movement

[@frightday13dragon94]

Free to download from stop the tories and print, they do it as a qr code.

[@Donny427]

Place them all over our cities and post photos on social media. Let's try to have an unprecedented general election.

[@hughjass1044]

Never mind the Lib / Dems, at the rate things are going, The Official Monster Raving Loony Party could overtake the Tories.

[@dftfire]

They prefer to go by "Reform UK", it's quicker to say 😂

[@ykc16888]

Really hope Lib Dems can become second.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

My firm belief is that a lot of Reform supporters will switch back to the Tories at the last minute, as they get scared of a Labour government. Reform will end up with no more than one seat (Clacton) and even that isn't certain. Talk of Tory extinction has been greatly exaggerated.

[@annphillips1086]

I really hope you're right. Not that I want Tories within a sniff of power until they've got their act back together (could be a decade or so!), but there's only one worse option than them at the moment and Reform is it.

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

@@annphillips1086 No one has really been able to articulate to me why reform is so bad other than not being an established party and screaming racism at the top of their lungs.

[@Varrus101]

​@allthenewsordeath5772 they want to leave ECHR. Their immigration policy is unrealistic. They are a radical "party". People can't be bothered to explain it to you because since you are a reform supporter, you already prove you lack the capacity to understand, agree with logic, or have some criticism towards the reform "party"

[@repeater64]

@@allthenewsordeath5772personally the abandon net zero idea in their manifesto is enough for me. Not that it’s the only thing.

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

@@repeater64 Abandon net0, because it’s virtually impossible to achieve without nuclear power for the time being unless we continue to drive up energy costs, and thereby decrease the quality of life for average Britains while the people who preach climate apocalypse fly around on private jets, is a bad thing?

[@alexnewport6756]

Would be the funniest outcome ever, Ed Davey has bascially been cosplaying as Mr Bean the entire campaign and could beat Sunak lmao

[@aaltag4068]

Holy shit is this system undemocratic. Labour with 40% all the time but fluctuations of up to 100 seats. What a shitshow

[@iambicpentakill971]

It's democratic, but not very representational

[@sherpafan033]

@@iambicpentakill971sorry, but it’s not democratic if it’s not representative. Going by that logic, Putin is a democratically elected leader because he still had some legitimate voters.

[@lotter4390]

@@iambicpentakill971it’s not representative of the overall country, but its actually very representative. That’s somewhat the point of the constituencies.

[@rufus30001]

In Canada's 1993 general election, incumbent Tory party ("PC") went from 156 seats (a majority gov) to *2* (two) seats.

[@straticfox4600]

Could they? Yes they could. Would it be better for uk politics? yes! Also it could mean that the Overton window will shift to the left which would be nice.

[@thetreelander7378]

Na bring on an actual right wing shift back to centre.

[@Nico-ss9lr]

Didn't know the Overton window could shit XD

[@straticfox4600]

@@Nico-ss9lr Perhaps it can 😂

[@Capelett]

Lib Dems are winning more seats, not more votes. You'd have a largely unrepresented right wing vote.

[@JasonAtlas]

​@@thetreelander7378🤔 Erm...back to the right? May I ask what constitutes a real right in your view?

[@itamarfridman9691]

I don't live in the UK but if I were a supporter of Labor and lived in a constituency where it was a close call between Labor and Lib Dem, I would actually vote for the Lib Dem to increase their power over that of the Tories, and if I were a staunched supporter of the Tories in that constituency, I would actually vote for Labor To reduce the strength of the Lib Dem on the national level. In any case, I would not recommend for the right nor the left to vote for the Greens or for Reform. In any case, warm wishes and have a great democratic celebration

[@geofflepper3207]

Maybe it's better for the Conservatives to have less public exposure for a while. They may look ridiculous standing up in the House of Commons in the near future to say to Labour cabinet ministers, "Your policies are messing up this country". It would be sort of like a football player who scored four own goals in the first half of a game chastising the player who was substituted in for him for making a poor pass.

[@LahtariFIN]

One thing I have consistently noticed is that the tldr jingle is INCREDIBLY LOUD compared to the rest of the video. Please do some audiobalance in the future and stop exploding our ear drums. Thank you!

[@bertiewooles3093]

I have been a Lib Dem member for nearly 10 years now. I remember the false dawn of 2019. I am not anywhere near as Delulu as to believe that Ed Davey LOTO is a realistic thing. I would be incredibly happy with winning 50 seats

[@hornetgamer8980]

Stop The Tories Dot Vote

[@craigtomkinson2150]

Vote tactical

[@himaro101]

Now that'd be a parliamentary political shift and a half.

[@andyhill5581]

Let’s hope so 🤞

[@gamewithadam7235]

Please let them get more. And clean up the pollution in the waste management.

[@gameofender4463]

I think if it gets bad enough for the Tories they could split into two different parties. The more liberal wing joining the Lib Dems and the more conservative wing joining Reform. So the top three parties could be: Labour (socially liberal and economically liberal). Liberal Conservatives (socially liberal and economically moderate/conservative). Conservative Reformists (socially and economically conservative). Which, to be honest, sounds like a really cool idea.

[@howdydoobroyt]

Except the Lib Dems are further left than Labour so the left tories might actually join Labour instead

[@theemperorschosen7607]

Libdems are further left economically than Labour in this election. It's centrist labour, left lib Dems and right Tories/Reform

[@NK-vd8xi]

Where's the party for socially conservative, economic "liberals"/leftists? It's a hugely untapped voted base

[@ffotograffydd]

Except the Lib Dems aren’t economically conservative, so any Tories joining them would have to adjust their economic values.

[@gameofender4463]

@@NK-vd8xi They’d be the determining factor at the elections. But I imagine if they’re socially conservative they’d choose the Conservative Reformists. Unless they thought economic matters were more important. Then they could vote for Labour for a more left-wing economic plan. Or the Liberal Conservatives if they wanted something more economically “moderate”.

[@weird_autumn42]

hopefully, of any of the parties likely to be in opposition they seem to be the least worst

[@punishedpinecone4772]

REFORM UK are polling higher than the Conservatives yet you don't want to mention that

[@pipoo1]

In vote share maybe, but they’ve no chance of beating the Lib Dems or the Tories in seats, current MRP projections for the LDs put them between 50 and 80 seats, the current highest projections for the Lib Dems are higher than the low end projections of the Tories. This election will be like 1983 where Labour and the Alliance were within 2% of each other in vote share but the alliance won 27 seats and Labour 209.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

This election is almost like the Canadian elections of 1993.

[@DuchieUwU]

I sure hope so

[@mrakronyahoo]

The real question is : "Who the hell still plans to vote Tories?"

[@iambicpentakill971]

Old people

[@markwelch3564]

​@@iambicpentakill971yep. People who still think they're voting for that very sensible John Major fellow...

[@armelfrancois7009]

you'd be surprised. one person I spoke to thought that giving Labour such a large landslide victory (although a majority is important) could mean that they would be less cautious in their decisions, leading to higher risk-taking and thus potentially greater losses (not strictly my opinion though!)

[@mrakronyahoo]

@@iambicpentakill971 old people who hate their children presumably?

[@theoelliott5944]

I would prefer Reform UK come 2nd, but considering how unlikely that is, a Lib Dem opposition would be pretty funny. Zero seats!

[@ArtemisShanks]

Congrats UK voters. It only took you 12 years to rid yourselves of the most disastrous sequence of govt representation in 200 years. The last horse finally crosses the finish line.

[@mattbooth307]

I'm a Labour member and I think a Liberal Democrat official opposition would be the most ideal outcome for politics in the UK. Consigning the extreme right to the sidelines and the narratives of the day being much less extreme. Plus, I don't usually think of the Liberal Democrats as having disgusting policies.

[@BIGJXXX]

The end of Right Wing politics in the English speaking world

[@Jmcinally94]

What about Greens? I know they won't be the largest opposition but wouldnt that be a good outcome too?

[@amyshaw893]

The greens only ever win one seat in Brighton lol

[@mikefish8226]

There is no "extreme right" in mainstream British politics, stop being a drama queen.

[@leonardochapman4736]

​@@mikefish8226look at what reform candidates have said about hitler, and then come back to me

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

🇷🇴 IS on the Thumbnail.

[@djtomoy]

If Sunak win his seat he will obviously quit when he’s not pm anymore

[@woodsbannana]

This video was in dire need of a line graph of predicted seats against time

[@MilkD2]

SAY IT WITH ME LIB DEM SURGE

[@alexanderwhite9084]

LIB DEM SURGE

[@JasonAtlas]

Lib Dem Surge

[@bp-lx7lf]

Lib Dem Surge

[@jondonnelly4831]

Lib Dem PURGE.

[@danytwos]

LIB DEM FACES A TORY AND REFORM MERGE

[@MarkHewitt1978]

Video seemed to end suddenly straight into the magazine advert, strange.

[@sixtytwo.]

I agree. "...it likely wouldn't even work" with no explanation of why it wouldn't work.

[@repeater64]

Yeah that seems to happen a lot on this channel

[@frankendudi3s608]

I don't get how anyone's voting Tory. At least vote Reform or something, why would you vote the party that crashed the UK into power again?

[@StanTorrent]

Vote reform? Are you mental? It’s the equivalent of thinking fascism was shit so you choose nazism

[@dunnowy123]

I find this pretty doubtful tbh; the Lib Dems have nowhere near the electoral machine the Tories have. People say all sorts of things to pollsters, but at the end of the day, I think people tend to vote with what they know. That typically means one of the two major parties.

[@terrymann1341]

I would rather see the Lib Dems as the official opposition party with the Tories well behind in a lowly third with Reform coming nowhere, the thought of Farage and his cronies taking seats in Parliament fills me with dread.

[@klausjack8731]

TBF, A strong right wing opposition is also important for the UK (at least in a conservative sense). And no, the tories aren’t a great right wing opposition force. I’m also not saying that reform has to win, but representation is already good enough.

[@pianotunez3174]

I hope so. I'll be voting for them. Love the Lib Dems

[@timbrass]

What would happen if say Tories were on 61 and LibDems on 60 and then during the Parliament 2 Tories defect.... would the LibDems become the opposition mid parliament?

[@mancno1]

Given Lib Dem seem to be positioning themselves left of labour and focusing on youth vote/ being pro EU I think people are overestimating their performance in actual seat by seat elections. Traditionally, they've focused on hoovering up conservative seats in English areas that often vote tory but want to lean more centrist (but specifically not left like historic labour). Places like cornwall which don't have lots of big unis that all these student focused policies like legalizing weed etc are going to appeal to. Their only hope is labour just not campaigning in historic lib dem seats.

[@jensonvincent500]

Even if the LibDems get more seats then the Tories, I can 100% see the Tories and Reform forming a coalition so there will still be a conservative counterweight to Labour.

[@gameofender4463]

If the Lib Dems get more seats I can the socially liberal Tories wanting to merge/join the Lib Dems. Leaving the rest to be absorbed into/merged with Reform.

[@ffotograffydd]

How? Reform is projected to win just one seat. So even if they merge, or more likely Farage defects, that doesn’t threaten Labour.

[@jmaitland5709]

I feel like any deal with reform would just make the divide inside the tories even worse. It might even be the catalyst that will split the party in 2 or even in 3.

[@ffotograffydd]

@@jmaitland5709 Almost certainly, especially if Farage defects, which I suspect is his plan.

[@kkmac7247]

@@ffotograffydd There are many seats where labour are projected to win this time, but the reform + conservative vote share will be greater than the labour vote share

[@renaultlover1]

Certainly voting Lib Dem.

[@IMMAPARADOX_]

Thank you for great content

[@MrShikaga]

I am more interested in what the effect on Labour would be in the LibDems were the opposition. How would that shift their political calculus?

[@fantasypvp]

Tories fr about to be 4th place

[@volk4523]

Daily reminder, VOTE LIB DEM! Only hope for change!

[@lukefleetwood7958]

No, fuck the Lib Dems. Vote Reform.

[@arcan762]

Or better, REFORM!

[@volk4523]

@@arcan762 No one wants Fascist Tories or Farage.

[@arcan762]

@@volk4523 You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[@Hobbyblasphemist]

I am almost certain more than half of British people couldn’t name the LD leader. I was surprised several times over the last few years whenever a new one showed up, having missed their ascension entirely.

[@CarlyWaarly]

Is it April the 1st? 🤣 Reform is the only option, Labour and Tories same cheeks on a stinky bottom!

[@JJmanWRLD868]

Reform aren't winning shit😂😂😂

[@spiderfandom7592]

Reform are winning... last place hahahahaha

[@Skelig]

I kind of want to see a PMQs where a centre-right Labour government is debating with a centre-right Lib Dem opposition in which they're basically in agreement on most things

[@vishmaster09]

Please vote lib Dems so they become leader of the opposition. Labours already won , they don't need the extra votes.

[@glyngreen538]

More important to pragmatically vote tactically to reduce the Tory seats than just vote Lib Dem. Say you’re in a close Labour-Tory marginal voting Lib Dem is a waste and it’s counter-intuitively better for the Lib Dems to vote Labour there. It could mean the Tories lose the seat. Labour will win a massive majority and over a certain number more seats gives no extra advantage. The benefit of tactical voting is to reduce the Tory seats as low as possible so hopefully Lib Dems have more and become the official opposition. See stop the Tories dot vote.

[@gerardmackay8909]

Tactical voting is the key not voting Lib Dem wherever

[@annphillips1086]

Labour have NOT already won, the election has not taken place! It may look absolutely guaranteed but it isn't until the votes are actually counted. In theory anything could happen; we've been here before (1992 anyone?) I'm totally in agreement with those saying vote whoever out of Labour, Lib Dem or the minor parties (only real parties need apply, no businesses masquerading as such) stands the best chance of winning in your constituency. If that means the bin makes it to Westminster, so be it! (Can't imagine him taking his seat though... can he even sit? Perhaps plonk him at the end of a row.)

[@EdgyNumber1]

We can only hope. We need a SENSIBLE opposition that's not backed by media shills.

[@foreveremoatheart]

All i can say is, Remember Liz Truss...... wtf was that.... walked into office and walked straight back out

[@timr6098]

As a member of the conservative party, we are screwed 😐

[@TitusFlavius11]

Y’all are getting Faraged lmao

[@gameofender4463]

The Conservative politicians brought it upon themselves. The best thing to do after the election is to split up, and the more liberal members joining the Lib Dems and the more conservative members trying to join Reform. Basically, split up and try to moderate both the Lib Dems & Reform. And have a Liberal Conservative Party and a Conservative Reformist Party.

[@boryolmung9548]

You cannot stop the big chungus

[@danielbenton4977]

Rightly so

[@Rob-uv8bu]

Traitor. No new houses. Rents to high. Give freeloaders everything. Tow them back . Got no guts

[@SDrtheone]

Doesn't matter who you vote for folks, just don't vote Tory!

[@torspedia]

How can I register, to take part in future polling?

[@19932603A]

Last time I checked, when parties campaign in the elections they campaign for THEM, not against them. x'D

[@UWot-jd5tf]

At this point I don't care who people vote for as long as it's not Tory or labour, fucking try something different for once lol

[@dftfire]

For Remainers, go 🔶Lib Dem then, given under FPtP they are clearly the next-biggest option. For Leavers, there isn't any-option besides ➡Reform UK, and they aren't predicted to win more than around 3 seats, with 7 being the highest forecast. So a merger between 🌳 and ➡ is likely inevitable.

[@yardh]

There is a whole new generation of voters who dont remember Clegg and Cameron forever changing who can and can't afford to go into further education. I would never vote Lib Dem again but maybe there are enough young people to change the outcome.

[@VesiustheBoneCruncher]

That just isn’t how coalition government works. No one gets everything they want. If your standard is that you only vote for a party that exclusively does things you like, then you are going to run out of options pretty fast.

[@danielwebb8402]

Everyone can afford to go into higher education. It's free at the point of delivery. More people go now than in 2010.

[@yardh]

@@danielwebb8402 I think you deliberately missed the point there 🤣

[@oldomen3788]

As a future Liber Democrat MSO and a current member. This puts a smile on my face

[@blackroseangel123]

It's mad how this electric isn't about picking a winner, and is actually about picking an opposition.

[@rockallmusic]

Even if the Tories come second, a cohort of uncomfortable Tories crossing the floor to the Lib Dems during the Faragification of the party in the next parliament could drop the Tories into third place mid-parliament.

[@myleskelly2950]

Vote reform for real change

[@StanTorrent]

Going from capitalism to fascism can be considered change

[@myleskelly2950]

@@StanTorrent So i take it your happy with the status quo. We all should be able to tell by now there will be no change with the currant mainstreams parties they have all had there chance , even if reform turn out to be the same at least we tried as a country to do things better.

[@jondonnelly4831]

We need a TLDR for TLDR these days.

[@eris9062]

If you can’t pay attention to a video for 8 minutes I think you need to go outside and touch some grass, because your attention span has been cooked

[@rileylong5250]

God I want this election to go on another year its been so much fun

[@drownedcactus5618]

WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT CHECK ED DAVEYS VOTING RECORD FROM 2010-15 ‼️‼️

[@Uqwefsdjxsa]

You really think those were his opinions? Everybody in the party is made to vote those ways it’s rare that dissenters come out. That’s why the vast majority of those currently in Labour voted in favour of the Iraq War despite coming out against it today.

[@matt3719]

yeah, what the other guy said. Look up parliamentary whipping. A lot of MPs have said how uncomfortable they are with their voting record because if you ever go against the whip you can say goodbye to ever having a ministerial career.

[@kraken125]

Vote reform

[@StanTorrent]

Sorry, I’m not inbred

[@pappaxray2]

If the Tory party did reach it's end. Who gets the credit? Cameron, Boris, Truss or Sunak?

[@jonahworledge111]

I think Sunak's too late to matter (though may be nail in the coffin). I think it's probably Gove or some other front bencher who always has power but is never in the spotlight to lose it.

[@Jytami]

The graphs show it was Romania all along (look at the thumbnail!!!)

[@Tymbus]

Unless the Labour government mess up, which they could

[@dewaard3301]

We're still very far from 6th of July, and a lot of people that haven't really given things a lot of thought yet, are yet to realize they don't like betting on a losing horse.

[@svennielsen633]

The best thing that could happen is, that Conservatives votes so strongly for Reform, that the party can take over its position - and Labour loses! Then Reform could do just that: make a reform of the election system so that votes are reflected in seats. UK desperately needs DEMOCRACY!

[@martinhommel9967]

Let’s hope so

[@BoyeeSmudger]

Be so nice to hear PMs questions on a Wednesday and not hear the all the hot air from the toff's.