Could this Railway ever be Reopened in the Future? The Scarborough to Whitby Railway Part 3

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Could this Railway ever be Reopened in the Future? The Scarborough to Whitby Railway Part 3
The Scarborough to Whitby Railway opened back in 1885 and lasted until 1965
An absolute loss to the community and would almost certainly been of great benefit today.
Could and should the Scarborough to Whitby Railway be reopened in some form?
Join me as i pose this question as well as picking up where i left off last time out at Ravenscar.
We behin by taking a look inside Ravenscar Tunnel. An absolute delight!
Next up its back to breathtaking scenary as we drop down the fields and clifftops, bypassing Ravenscar Brick Quarry and down towards Fyling Hall and our final destination today or Robin Hoods Bay.
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@adrianbew9641
@adrianbew9641 Жыл бұрын
We asked ourselves the same question 17 years ago at helston railway, there was no rail, in filled cuttings, no stations, missing bridges, houses built on the original track bed. Dedicated volunteers said yes and work began, we are at present 1.5 miles of new track and a further half mile preparing to lay. All costs are funded by ticket sales, membership fees and public donations. There's still over 6 Miles to negotiate sale or lease of the track bed, stations to build and huge amounts of money to raise. We will succeed, it will take a lot of years and possibly at least one other generation to see it come to complete fruition, but there are always dedicated enthusiasts and others to come along after us to complete what we started. That line could happen in the same manner.
@neilbaldwin592
@neilbaldwin592 Жыл бұрын
Good for you guys getting your sleeves rolled up and getting on with it. It may take years but you’ll get there and what you have achieved will benefit generations to come.
@Elliothannaford-ee7nh
@Elliothannaford-ee7nh Жыл бұрын
Elliot hannaford you to day
@edwinholland6149
@edwinholland6149 Жыл бұрын
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@TheGramophoneGirl
@TheGramophoneGirl Жыл бұрын
There are so many benefits to reinstating this line, whether as a heritage or even normal railway. The Yorkshire coast is tourist central, yet becomes gridlock in peak tourist season. How cool to go by rail? esp with all the environmental considerations of today.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
It would be absolutely amazing wouldn't it? I'll definitely be back to go on North Yorkshire Moors Railway soon too ♥️
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
@@carlharris2808 blimey yes I've heard they can be around
@Teesbrough
@Teesbrough Жыл бұрын
After she died, I found the notes of a special diesel train tour my Mum did on this line on 24/8/1961. The tour was part of a Summer School in York on ‘Railway and Canal Buildings’, with Tom Rolt, Michael Robbins and others. Lecturer’s notes for the trip state it took 13 years to build the line at £27,000/mile (£2.85m/mile in 2023 inflation adjusted), ‘without any real hope of an adequate return’. Personally, I’d love to see it reopen but chances of that happening in my lifetime are close to zero. Loving your video though!
@ldb281
@ldb281 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for what you do. Its very enlightening. I think most of us will appreciate the tremendous trouble you go to, and your infectious enthusiasm. Keep it up mate. All the best to you
@philiprufus4427
@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this,seen many of these lines in books after closure. Walked and travelled by train previously as a kid in the late fifties and early sixties many former lines in Scotland. Once met a group of pensioners back in the noughties on a cycle track who remembered troop trains of young Americans passing by train. The trains were slow and on an upward gradient,so the soldiiers used to throw sweets and chocolate to the kids.This was on The Princes Pier Line, closed the same year finally.Back in the mid sixties,Beeching got the blame for it all. However the man behind it was Earnest Marples, conservative transport minister and the man who appointed Richard Beeching. Marples was chairman of the biggest construction conglomerate in the UK at the time. Guess what, - they had all the government contracts for new roads and motorways. Marples was later discovered to owe thirty years worth of unpaid tax,he did one to Luxembourg,then France,where he had a chateux. You think corrupt politicians are an invention of the last twenty odd years ?
@martinmarsola6477
@martinmarsola6477 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the continuing trek along the railway line and existing remains. Always a pleasure to see you on the journey. Have a cracking weekend and week ahead! Cheers Ant! 🇬🇧👍🙂🇺🇸
@johnhalley974
@johnhalley974 Жыл бұрын
That was a great vid….And the Man from Delmonte..He says Yessss
@chrisbonsor7805
@chrisbonsor7805 4 ай бұрын
Walked said Ravenscar to Robin Hoods Bay 13th June and then to watch your wonderful video it puts everything in to perspective. Thank you
@2010ditta
@2010ditta Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable part 3, with some lovely archive photo's and footage of the old days. And just as an aside...one of the loco's, Fairburn tank 42083 has been preserved at the Lakeside and Haverthwaite railway. All the best.
@dilwyn1
@dilwyn1 Жыл бұрын
As always ... Stunning photo stills
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it thank you
@simongleaden2864
@simongleaden2864 Жыл бұрын
I can't see it being restored to use. What could they do at Scarborough? A new station to the north of the Sainsbury's that has been built over the southern end of the route? Would they reinstate the line down to Whitby Town station to link with National Rail & the NYMR, or settle for a rebuilt West Cliff station? There would be so many difficulties, and would the region be deprived of its very popular and well used Cinder Track foot and cycle path?
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling
@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling Жыл бұрын
It is certainly a testament to British engineering that these beautiful bridges and tunnels are still in place, all be it a little worn. That must have been some gradient that it needed two locomotives to pull the carriages. Another great video Ant with perfect lighting on the pictures in the tunnel. Some excellent research. You asked if people would be interested in you covering the tramway from the colliery across the Moors, well I definitely would be interested. Thanks as always, Ant, for this amazing video. I really appreciate it.
@lindamccaughey6669
@lindamccaughey6669 Жыл бұрын
That was fantastic Ant. Those beautiful bridges and that stunning tunnel. I am really loving this series. Those pics of steam trains was icing on the cake. Thanks for taking me along. Please take care
@terryansell6641
@terryansell6641 3 ай бұрын
Your videos are getting better and better you should get some award very soon
@Paggerd
@Paggerd Жыл бұрын
Great content again, thanks. If I may be allowed one suggestion it would be a before and after location shot from the old photographs you show. It would give an interesting perspective of how the line has changed over the years.
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217
@barrythedieselelectricstea5217 Жыл бұрын
excellent video as always yes this should be reopened 100% it was there to serve the community and should be put back it should have never closed
@concernedcitizen5826
@concernedcitizen5826 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you sir!
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much 😊
@NickB_Yorkshire
@NickB_Yorkshire Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video Ant. Really enjoyed it. Amazing scenery and some great old photos and film footage. Incredible that you can still see the sleeper indentations in the track bed nearly 60 years on 😯. Looking forward to Part 4 👍🏼😁
@janepatricia8779
@janepatricia8779 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as usual Ant,such a good walk ,the bridges were so colourful, and the Station at Robin hoods Bay is lovely, well done, p.s,hope your back pack wasn't heavy on this long walk😊 xx
@simonballard6413
@simonballard6413 Жыл бұрын
Marvellous video, Ant. We lived in that area and I travelled the line when it was open. I always enjoyed Ravenscar tunnel and the Falsgrave one at Scarborough. I think there would certainly be many benefits to reinstating the whole line. Can you make it happen, please? (!!) Send your great videos to Department of Transport!
@macstyle2012
@macstyle2012 Жыл бұрын
That always has been a steep gradient. I remember doing that section on my bike and could almost freewheel quite a distance from Ravenscar to Robin Hoods Bay - and same from Robin Hoods Bay towards Scarborough had quite a downhill section too.
@andrewmatley7688
@andrewmatley7688 Жыл бұрын
another great video Ant great info on the route of the disused railway line keep em coming mate.
@alankennedy3398
@alankennedy3398 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to part 4 of the journey along this beautiful old track bed . It’s hard to understand why it was closed as there appears in your old footage (which incidentally I love how you mix into your videos ) some fairly long trains indicating the line was potentially quite well used . Keep up the good work !!
@SteveCowey-ib1mo
@SteveCowey-ib1mo 4 ай бұрын
Excellent, really enjoyed that.
@robertbush6652
@robertbush6652 Жыл бұрын
What an extension to the North York Moors Railway!
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
Steam Trains are dirty, inefficient, smell, very hard to maintain BUT are such a beautiful sight to see. Nothing beats vintage steam of any kind. Ant, thanks for posting another enjoyable watch.....
@craig7038
@craig7038 6 ай бұрын
Thank you pal, very professional and informative absolutely love your work.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration 6 ай бұрын
Very kind thank you. I hope you enjoy the entire series
@philliphammond399
@philliphammond399 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ant, nice production with some lovely old pictures, a road with no cars! This railway should never have closed, what a "Tourist Line" it would make. Thank you.
@TheRogey1
@TheRogey1 Жыл бұрын
just love the amazing shots and eerie music😀
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Brilliant thanks very much 😁
@stephenharper9961
@stephenharper9961 Жыл бұрын
Also did you spot the original signal box hiding away at robin hoods bay? Someone has really looked after it very well, also I stayed in the station loft conversion in robin hoods bay and I loved it so much
@mikeedwards6162
@mikeedwards6162 Жыл бұрын
An excellent video, great natural narration and superb photography
@rodsmith3911
@rodsmith3911 8 ай бұрын
Probably the best part of the route and you had glorious weather for the walk! Great at any time of the year but spring and high summer offer different flora and show the scenery off at its best. I think there's little chance of it ever being a railway again but it's a sad loss that's only partly repaid by being available to walk and cycle the route unlike so many other lost lines like the Great Central which have been lost for ever over much of their routes. Nice memories at the end of the video as my stepdaughter's wedding reception was in R H Bay village hall which is at the old station back in 2003! Thanks for the work you put in to make sure that the video is full of interest and not just a walk along the line.
@gagwithgaffer8385
@gagwithgaffer8385 Жыл бұрын
Really well presented, you should be on the TV :) subscribed!
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Very kind Oliver thank you. Part 4 will be along in a couple of weeks
@paulaj2829
@paulaj2829 11 ай бұрын
Love the video & again very pleased of you giving all the info because if I knew all this before we went along here I wood have tried to investigate more of the area in stead of falling of my bike 🤣😂 but it was the 1st week in Sept that we were up there but will definitely go back & not fall off.🙂
@Carolb66
@Carolb66 Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video Ant, so beautiful & yes should be reopened for a tourist destination, so much potential & hope it happens one day. The tunnel was amazing! With the 'cubbies'still there in the walls to stand in if you are in the tunnel & a train comes! Fab photos esp the steam train coming out of the tunnel. Cant wait for part 4 ❤😊
@jessgerrard2792
@jessgerrard2792 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic Ant. Just wished me old man was still alive to watch this with me and tell me some of the history of the area as we frequently went up to Whitby, Scarborough and Ravenscar on holiday in the 70s and 80s. Sadly I think reopening the line is a non-starter, Governments are too busy wasting money on developments such as HS2. Keep up the good work mate
@mcmarky1985
@mcmarky1985 Жыл бұрын
Love this Ant! I'm up in Yorkshire this weekend not sure I'll be able to do the lot but I'm definitely gonna get myself along part of this route! It looks a truly stunning walk thank you so much for sharing. My suggestion for you this time would be Hoffman Kiln Craven Lime Works near Settle.
@shona1578
@shona1578 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant little series, this, thank you! Liked and subscribed! I am convinced that many of the Beeching cuts will be reinstated over the next hundred to hundred and fifty years, as successive generations grapple with climate change and more sustainable public transport solutions. And routes like this that are still largely intact and with huge tourist appeal will come sooner rather than later. I live in Whitby and would love to go to Scarborough by train, but sadly can't see it happening in my lifetime though [sigh...].
@MrKittykat111
@MrKittykat111 Жыл бұрын
Born and bred in Thorpe and Bay. Been up and down that route thousands of times. Up most of them culverts in my youth too.
@martinmessias57
@martinmessias57 Жыл бұрын
Superb videos, thanks so much for making them.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
So pleased you enjoyed them Martin 😌
@yorkie2789
@yorkie2789 Жыл бұрын
Walked that section of line many years ago in another heatwave, really enjoyed those cool woodland sections I can tell you!
@tonyclough9844
@tonyclough9844 Жыл бұрын
They have just done a 12 mile section linking Skipton to Leeds, only wanted the track laying, and they make such a song and dance about it. Down South they have redone every station on the railways.
@Cromwelldunbar
@Cromwelldunbar Жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary! Well done! Intro’ music well chosen to accompany the many points of interest highlighted and explained, b/w worthy steam engine photo shots of those valiant locos doing their loyal performances, bless ‘em all for ever and ever! Most watchable indeed! Whole documentary narrative and filming deserves top marks and an award! Good continuation!
@iunderw2
@iunderw2 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. keep them coming
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Cheers Bobby thank you 🙂
@Olleetheowl
@Olleetheowl Жыл бұрын
I watch quite a lot of your videos. Living in Ilkeston, and holidaying often in Robin hoods bay. We stop at the caravan site just outside of R.H.B. and the “cinder track” runs past out caravan….Very enjoyable as usual
@aro4491
@aro4491 Жыл бұрын
This line was difficult to operate, with a reversal required at each end of the route to gain access to the stations at Scarborough and Whitby. It featured some severe (in railway terms) gradients of up to 1:39, and there were no major towns served other than those at each end. The route is not intact and has been lost in places. It's an unlikely candidate for a revival and could reduce the revenue of the NYMR which runs steam operations from Pickering to Whitby.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
Ant, could the image at 27:18 be showing the train going over Station Road? Your work on part 3 was outstanding, the drone shots, old B&W photos and the vintage 8mm film footage all came together and told a great story and presented a important part of British Steam history.
@GaryMcCullagh
@GaryMcCullagh Жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct. I have been on google maps to check the houses out, and the last house on the right of the photo is still the same then as it is now.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
@@GaryMcCullagh Good research, for me it was somewhat of a guess as I live about 5,300 miles away in California... lol
@lilchris26
@lilchris26 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video Ant, nice pictures too showing the history, what a superb line this was.
@davidcousins3508
@davidcousins3508 11 ай бұрын
I’ve walked the route Scarborough to Whitby a few times ..a combination of the Cleveland way and the old railway path ..as you said stunning scenery 👍
@benGBRf
@benGBRf Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as always from you Ant. Same old story, I wish the line was still open or at least reopen. Oh well, thanks for capturing the best of what's left Ant 👍🏻
@jamesgibson5606
@jamesgibson5606 Жыл бұрын
One of Yorkshire's beauties to behold. Absolutely stunning Vista's. Loved the video's by the way.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much James. I'm pleased 🙂
@shirleylynch7529
@shirleylynch7529 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Such a lot of rich greenery. Tunnels and bridges amazing. Loved your before and after shots with the music. Very apt music. Thank you Ant. Another masterpiece . Well done.
@brianmirfield5371
@brianmirfield5371 Жыл бұрын
Love that Ant can't wait for the last leg have done that a few times beautiful area and great walk
@marybradley7791
@marybradley7791 Жыл бұрын
Great video, some great old footage and photos, i dont think it will ever re open but if it did i think it would most likely be as a tramline with a tram doing a loop round Scarbrough on the road to the station, or terminating at sainsburys using part of the car park as a new terminus station,
@MrKittykat111
@MrKittykat111 Жыл бұрын
I might also add, if you head up off the line where Stoupe Beck road crosses you might find the path to the 'Two Sisters'. There's a small cave just above them too, with lovely fresh water to drink! There's also a bit further over remains of a paved trackbed from a Roman quarry. Oh and loads of Bilberries!
@whitespider8523
@whitespider8523 Жыл бұрын
If ever a line should have been mothballed this is it. One of the most beautiful and intricate lines ever built but I think too much has been changed at both ends, particularly the Whitby end for it ever to return to its former glory. A real travesty, it would be an absolute gold mine in these days of choked roads.
@Marc_von_Hoffrichter
@Marc_von_Hoffrichter Жыл бұрын
Bloody beautiful! Imagine this as a tourist railway....it would be spectacular! Thanks Ant, another brilliant vid. Cheers cobber.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
It really is stunning. Two more parts to come 🙂
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
BR did round trips in the summer months from Whitby to Scarborough but they never made money.
@regcotterill7332
@regcotterill7332 Жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to this segment and wasn't disappointed. The content quality of your work continues to impress and is equal if not better than the stuff the MSM produces these days. I thought the series of videos you did on Derwent/Ladybower was excellent but this builds on that. The drone footage is stunning. One thought that always comes to mind when I see videos like yours is of the men that built all this. The blood sweat and shear muscle power that it took to produce the bridges, cuttings, embankments and buildings. I for one appreciate their efforts. I'm staying in Larpool Hall in August so will try and retrace some of your steps.
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Another fantastic video, Ant. What a beautiful bride that must have been! .I'm looking forward bit the next episode. btw the music makes it!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
That was meant to read "What a beautiful Ride that must have been!"
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Michael I've started work on part 4 yesterday 👍
@daystatesniper01
@daystatesniper01 Жыл бұрын
Another superb video , should it re-open hmmm yes but will it no ,too much money with no instant return which is demanded these days
@bobingram6912
@bobingram6912 Жыл бұрын
Another great walk in stunning scenery. Was it an optical illusion or was that tunnel as narrow as it looked??? Nobody made any remarks about my comment in Part 1 about the heght barrier being there to deter Tesco vans, but lo and behold!!!! You can never get away from work can you😂😂😂 Looking forward to last instalment Ant👍👍👍 Good training for IOW!!
@macstyle2012
@macstyle2012 Жыл бұрын
Would make a good extension to the NYMR from Whitby. I think it could only ever be reopened as a heritage railway as the distance of the line, and the places it passes through would not carry enough passengers all through the year to make it work. If it went Scarborough to Middlesbrough then it may work as that would provide a good alternative connection to Newcastle.
@lesbendo6363
@lesbendo6363 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing history. 🇨🇦
@JohnnyWaterbucket
@JohnnyWaterbucket Жыл бұрын
Probably the only way it could reopen would be with private money, and lots of it. After that you would have a queue of people which would stretch to eternity waiting to get on, especially for the Ravenscar bit.
@chrisbayly5457
@chrisbayly5457 Жыл бұрын
A wonderful trek through a lovely part of the world. Been to Whitby and Robin Hood's Bay and it should be reopened as a heritage or just a railway line route.....
@abhishekalmeida939
@abhishekalmeida939 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see this scenic line to open. An engineering masterpiece. May be we can try public and government funding by making a business case for the red tape authorities
@malcolmrichardson3881
@malcolmrichardson3881 Жыл бұрын
The scenic quality alone makes this an ideal route for reopening - albeit in stages. As a heritage railway like the nearby North York Moors Railway, there is no reason why it should not prosper. There appear to be some steepish gradients and perhaps slightly unstable rock formations, requiring some attention, but with will, determination, public support and finance, a beginning could and should, be made. From which end should a start be made?
@railwaychristina3192
@railwaychristina3192 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Great diversionary use. ❤
@magsu
@magsu Жыл бұрын
Stunning photos inside the tunnel! Although it would be extremely handy for us locals to have a railway from Whitby to Scarborough again, the cinder track itself is a great asset to the area. I think the cost of reinstating the line would be prohibitive, not to mention difficult. However, I could see a narrow gauge steam line along a short section of the track being pretty successful. It would be amazing to see a fully operational steam heritage railway joining up at Whitby with NYMR though!
@eddleetham
@eddleetham Жыл бұрын
The Bure Valley Railway in Norfolk was reopened in the same situation. After closure it was converted into a footpath and cycleway, so the new railway was built with 15 inch track and locos so that it could run alongside the path. It is run on a very commercial basis and seems to be very successful.
@neelix139
@neelix139 Жыл бұрын
Greetings I can’t remember your name my name is Jeff I live in Melbourne Australia and I do enjoy your Railway archaeology and I look forward to part number four because you when you walking the old Railway formation your very informative in your explanation of things so that’s why I thoroughly enjoy your series here in Australia we got some rail trails in the state of Victoria one of 150 miles long anyway that is another discussion all the best to you late you doing I find your accent is a bit ratchet time but if you were talking to me you would probably find my Australian accent a bit strong to anyway all the best for the future yours Jeff
@paulaj2829
@paulaj2829 11 ай бұрын
At 17:43 I toppled off my E-bike on the left as I tried to go past a couple with a dog as I went a little to slow trying to go up this part 😂😂but no one got hurt & we had a good laugh when all was sorted out.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration 11 ай бұрын
Its always the best way when you can see the funny side of it all. Thanlkyou for watching :)
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
The photo of the riad bridge at Robin Hood's Bay shows the Whitby Moors Rail Tour hauled by K4 3442 The Great Marquess (in green) and K1 62005. This train was organised by the Stephenson Locomotive Society and the Manchester Locomotive Society. The train took in water at Robin Hood's Bay.
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Sadly I think the chances of reopening this route either as a preserved or a network rail line are nil - mainly due to the amount of engineering that would be involved. However, it makes a fantastic walking/cycling trail even if the surface on it is very rough for most of its length.
@stuart3383
@stuart3383 Жыл бұрын
Love it brilliant again
@jamiehorsley5552
@jamiehorsley5552 Жыл бұрын
Hello ant hope you are well I have just watched your last video of the lost railway line between Scarborough and Whitby and I always enjoy your videos on the disused railway lines because I have always been interested in the old railway lines with thanks to my dad as my dad was one of the last people to travel on the Scarborough too Whitby railway line and he was also one of the last people to ride on the Hull and withersea railway line too and in my opinion the Scarborough and Whitby railway line should never have been closed and I would love to see it open again if it is possible stunning scenery and views along it's route and I would love to see it reopen again if possible thanks ant keep up the good work and I hope I can meet you in person one day and be in one of your videos cheers from Jamie
@petermarchbank7739
@petermarchbank7739 Жыл бұрын
it would be nice to see it reopened for passenger traffic as always your video are wonderful
@colinarmitage3631
@colinarmitage3631 Жыл бұрын
I remember riding up Whitby sitting behind the driver of a D.M.U. yes a lovely journey. This railway should never have been closed. What anatracion for Whtby and Scarborough for holiday makers to ride on this line
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately out side of the period June to September there was not enough traffic on the line.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 Жыл бұрын
Very good footage Ant - Unfortunately it will cost ££££ to re-open the line @ 14:45 Also if you go along the Monsal Trail (A Railway line that closed in 1968) it also has 2 set of Kilns 😉🚂🚂🚂
@exileinderby51
@exileinderby51 Жыл бұрын
Great video but to answer your question, my answer is that it's doubtful. Yes it should be re-opened and i for one would love it but I just can't see it happening
@macstyle2012
@macstyle2012 Жыл бұрын
A narrow gauge railway would be another option - like what they have done at Alston.
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 Жыл бұрын
I doubt it as it's too close to the cliffs which are eroding pretty rapidly.Most of the line still exists as track bed and the bit from Saltburn to Boulby as an actual railway although only for freight.
@StephenForster-z3m
@StephenForster-z3m Жыл бұрын
brilliant enjoying it at the moment is there going to be a part 4
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
Thank you and yes parts 4 and 5 then onto the Whitby to Loftus line
@jontownsend8090
@jontownsend8090 Жыл бұрын
This railway would be an asset to the local economy, as well as a beautiful route. It has the potential to become very popular, just like the Settle to Carlisle, which was slated for closure years ago. I would market it as the North York moors coastal railway. Sadly in reality, there is so much profiteering and red tape in this country, it will never reopen under the current regime.
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 Жыл бұрын
Alums Works had a very interesting history. And the production of alum using g urine and other chemicals around Ravenscar goes back a long way and was shipped out by boats from the beach there are lines cut into rock of seabed.. An explore would be worthwhile ?
@danielholden-storey5107
@danielholden-storey5107 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating as usual but the anticipated discussion re-opening vanished into the ether, which was a pity unless it is the viewer's thoughts you were wanting.
@mrmyorky5634
@mrmyorky5634 11 күн бұрын
As much as I'd like to see every abandoned railway line rebuilt there is only so much passenger revenue available and this would have to be divided out between all the existing preserved lines. I'm sure that the enthusiasm shown initially would be encouraging but all current preserved railways are today feeling the pinch of lower revenues and increasing costs.
@timbounds7190
@timbounds7190 Жыл бұрын
You'd have thought that there would be demand for Trains along the line - even today the parallel bus service has a surprisingly frequent service! Whilst in the 60s Whitby was regarded as an obscure port miles from anywhere, these days its probably more famous & well regarded resort than its ever been! Personally I'd love to see the Malton - Pickering line reopened so that there would be a York - Whitby railway service via Malton - Pickering - NYMR-Grosmont - Whitby - but I know that's a pipe dream as reinstating the line would be very difficult in Pickering, and then there'd be mixed objectives of trying to run a proper train service alongside the NYMR's heritage services......
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 Жыл бұрын
Would be a great tourist line and would improve local transport. Perhaps modern versions of diesel railcars could run the service or even the Nrw Battery locomotives?
@jwilloughby6175
@jwilloughby6175 Жыл бұрын
Was just gonna ask where the next installment was, looking fwd to larpool viaduct, spent many a walk to that with my dad as a child, remember when it was fenced off at both ends but someone always cut a gap in railings and had to squeeze through
@jnthnmllry
@jnthnmllry Жыл бұрын
It would be great to see the tunnel opened up at ravenscar to pass thru when walking/cycling the cinder track.
@michaelstansfield3085
@michaelstansfield3085 Жыл бұрын
That would be wonderful, but I’m afraid in this 2023 world, it would be a long toilet, akin to the awful stench of urine in the overbridge at Filey station.
@mikeedwards6162
@mikeedwards6162 Жыл бұрын
I hope it never reopens, it is a great walk.
@TrekkingExploration
@TrekkingExploration Жыл бұрын
It'll never reopen. Thanks for watching
@johnswift1736
@johnswift1736 Жыл бұрын
I was on the last train with my mum and sister to whitby and back to scarborough.
@jamesblaydon9109
@jamesblaydon9109 Жыл бұрын
Hi thank u for Doing my town of Whitby .. have u considered doing the Darlington to barnyard castle.. north stainmore ..tebay … railway …. As ya in the area
@fill7t1
@fill7t1 Жыл бұрын
That would be some walk!...... I was thinking about this vlog today!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
This line was never a moneymaker, even when relatively few of us had cars. When BR introduced DMUs there were problems with adhesion due to sea fogs making the rails up from Whitby to greasy. Pre-WW2 the LNER was questioning the value of the line from Scarborough to Loftus but before they nade a decision WW2 started. It was faster and more a convenient to take the United bus instead of the train.
@thomasmann9216
@thomasmann9216 Жыл бұрын
Two questions (he says before asking two questions): 1. Why brick up the entrances to the tunnel if there are doors allowing access? 2. Is there any evidence that Robin Hood ever ventured this far north?
@robdogwalker
@robdogwalker Жыл бұрын
I do wonder if Dr Beeching was right!Seems to me that if these little lines were perhaps mothballed,and just ran in the holidays,how many cars would not be used between Scarborough and Robin Hood's Bay and on to Whitby.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
The LNER considered all 4 routes into Whitby as uneconomic and wanted to close them. Even the original company that built this line failed to make money from it.
@bobtudbury8505
@bobtudbury8505 Жыл бұрын
of course when you say beeching you mean the labour party
@David-tt2mt
@David-tt2mt Жыл бұрын
When so much is being sent overseas to prop up an unnecessary conflict, there would be enough to get many projects which would of benefit the home economy, but then peace is not as profitable.
@ianr
@ianr Жыл бұрын
Could it be reopened.....Yes! Should it be reopened....Yes! I'm biased of course!🙂👍
@billhindmarsh7821
@billhindmarsh7821 Жыл бұрын
Gawd yes!
@ldb281
@ldb281 Жыл бұрын
Ive just noticed the old photos you have in the video, theres 2 locos pulling a long rake of coaches, even the later dmu is 4 or 5 coaches long. So why on earth was it closed if those trains were justified in running? What a marvellous line that would be to travel, the scenery unssen for 60 years!
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
The long passenger trains were only a feature on the line during the summer Saturdays. The rest of the time locomotive trains heading to reverse down to Whitby were limited to 2 coaches or needed a 2nd locomotive to guide it back down to Whitby Town station. As for the DMU these were used on scenic tours of the areas railways as well as service trains. But revenues outside of the summer weekends were low. Passengers went in the mode frequent buses and there was no freight once the brickworks closed.
@ldb281
@ldb281 Жыл бұрын
@@neiloflongbeck5705 thanks for that info, very interesting
@thisisbob1001
@thisisbob1001 Жыл бұрын
Yes
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