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@jhsrt9852 жыл бұрын
Don't forget orochi has sage mode, kind of irrelevant but js lol
@zmone8332 жыл бұрын
That pitch was perfect
@ItsCrouton2 жыл бұрын
Hey, when you say explosion “corps”, just thought you should know it’s pronounced as core. The p and s are silent
@BotBehavior2 жыл бұрын
Idk how many times I’ve told you. But stop staying Swaygetsu. That’s not his name.
@jhsrt9852 жыл бұрын
@@BotBehavior I think he's saucing it on purpose, I hope he is
@Epicdragon-vn6hu2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in the world of Naruto and you just hear about this one random Jonin who singlehandedly took out the entire Akatsuki
@JukiCombo2 жыл бұрын
Root: Come to my office.
@sunnydays46882 жыл бұрын
I mean naruto was a genin
@jaecasino70482 жыл бұрын
You'd instantly get promoted to kage
@mhmdgo12 жыл бұрын
apparently just genjutsu alone would get you at least halfway there XD
@athenawolf44672 жыл бұрын
@@mhmdgo1 That explains Itachi tbh
@kaiyamazaki16842 жыл бұрын
So in summary, to best the Akatsuki, at minimum you need to be a Jonin Hyuga genjutsu expert with Lightning and Earth Release that's capable of pulling off at least A Rank, long range Ninjutsu while also having masterful handling over Paper Bombs and Mastery over the Gentle Fist. Damn we must be one hell of a Jonin lol
@wildcatspawn2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you.
@Sakixlover2 жыл бұрын
Nothing about this says average
@kozmatheclown2 жыл бұрын
Well I mean in order to be put in this situation in the first place they would have to be some tough motherfucker in the first place.
@gyletre6752 жыл бұрын
yes
@thisisausername93562 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you definitely have to be at least a little special. I think it's a lot easier to see this as separate instances though rather than the same guy. It's kind of more a measure of the "minimal skill/luck" needed to beat them lmao
@shepskydad2 жыл бұрын
Something the Hidan section made me think about, what if Rock Lee swore his life to Jashin? Neither him or Hidan can use ninjutsu, and if Hidan had the speed and power that Lee does he would be a huge threat. Also, on that note, would Lee be immune to the effects of the gates, specifically the 8th gate? This might be a big rabbit hole to go down lol.
@jordinjackson47912 жыл бұрын
That would be crazy Ngl they shoulda did that
@softvibes16022 жыл бұрын
Although Lee and Hidan cannot use Ninjutsu, the eight gates depletes most of the body's chakra and puts extreme strain on the body. Hidan's techniques are also based on chakra manipulation. So, I think the eightth gate would prolly exhaust hidan to the point where we could consider him dead. After all, if his body is just lying around doing nothing, it would be easy to chop him up and starve him out.
@johnvat36712 жыл бұрын
@@jordinjackson4791 they definitely shouldn’t have since lee would be killing random people left and right
@jordinjackson47912 жыл бұрын
@@johnvat3671 I mean aye villain lee might not be that bad I would want to see it because people could be clowning him one day and go to hidan and ask to become a jashinist and get his get back
@andyfma1232 жыл бұрын
Bro this is so good. Imagine Lee turns evil after his legs a broken.
@dudeguy86862 жыл бұрын
So, apparently the Akatsuki travel in pairs specifically to cover their general weakness to genjutsu. I think my only hope would be teaching Tenten about rifling a barrel
@ffgamers-qd3wz Жыл бұрын
Just use shadow clone jutsu
@Friendly_G Жыл бұрын
That would make sense.... if hidan and kakazu weren't a thing. Kakazu got jumped his entire fight and hidan was utterly useless
@astro_bear Жыл бұрын
@@Friendly_G So we don't know for sure, but perhaps Kakazu's original partners did cover his weaknesses. I think it's mentioned before that the only reason Hidan was stuck with him is because he's immortal. Kakazu killed all his other partners.
@Friendly_G Жыл бұрын
@Justin Cook that would make sense seeing as it's been confirmed that hashirama died IN battle. Kakazu was likely FAR stronger against hashirama then against team Asuma and kakashi + naruto because Kakakzu had been chakra depleted and stamina exhausted from fighting the 2 tails, sealing the 2 tails for 3 days, killing the monk, fighting team asuma, then proceeding to get jumped against kakshi, naruto, and team asuma. Not to mention that when kakazu was introduced against team Asuma originally, he was able to speed blitz every single character there including asuma only for that level of speed to not be mentioned almost 4 days later when they were back to revenge. Its likely due to the sealing of a tailed beast for 3 days and not getting a chance to rest
@desadograisedrobot515 Жыл бұрын
@@astro_bear He legit friendly fired. I think he could have just legit aimed or used a different attack or just jumped him but nah he just roasted the both of them.
@silverose92382 жыл бұрын
Im glad that legit half of the ways to beat the Akatsuki members are genjutsu, cause the show did genjutsu so dirty. There was like 4 people who used it in the whole show, and it was either an op genjutsu or one that was easily broken, so Nick is really giving genjutsu its moment to shine as an actually useful ability :p
@Taruukc2 жыл бұрын
It's genuinely hard to use and of course requires more chakra the longer you use it. Not to mention if you have good chakra control it can be broken out of pretty easily. So you primarily see people use stronger variants like ocular mostly.
@table240642 жыл бұрын
at the end of the video he was right about genjutsu beating everyone because kotoamatsukami exists but thats kind of exclusive to shisui and danzo
@thisisausername93562 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do really wish that it got more time to shine. The idea of fucking with someone's senses like that is so interesting and it's a shame most of the time it's by sharingan users because it's just easy to break out of otherwise
@MaxLvlDm Жыл бұрын
Bro genjutsu is just good
@gizel4376 Жыл бұрын
@@table24064 and Itachi
@neroblack91162 жыл бұрын
Truthfully being a Hyuga alone could get you far in this gauntlet. You should do, “Can you successfully Storm the 5 Kage Summit” or something like that. I’d like to hear how you’d beat each Kage.
@MrSasukeSusanoo11 ай бұрын
And Hyuga + Wind is monstruous, Kishimoto made Naruto have a jutsu that destroys you in a celular level, and he unwillingly achieved that effect, but a hyuuga that is all about molding and controling chakra with extreme accuracy, they would be able to combine their wind + taijutsu to end everyone's career, no matter if they don't hit you hard or even kill you, they can just destroy your chakra network with ease and bye bye, even if you live, you're no threat anymore as you've been demoted to random human with some taijutsu and weapon knowledge that will definitely die faster than an ANBU in tuesdays.
@Brendito12 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring story writer, your hypothetical scenarios and deeper perspective on things is infinitely entertaining
@NCHammer232 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help!
@Brendito12 жыл бұрын
@@NCHammer23 something I’ve always wondered is weather or not the whole “Rinnegan is an evolved sharingan” line Madara threw out was strictly ANIME cannon or cannon in the manga too, cause that line totally caught me off guard and I read the manga in my early teens 😅😵💫
@aynonymos2 жыл бұрын
So, we need to be a Hyuga, with multiple releases, roughly as much taijutsu talent as Neji, and be a top tier genjutsu specialist on top of that. That's not a resume for a regular jonin, that's at least anbu elite.
@rhehsbsbsbs51272 жыл бұрын
I mean he’s not saying to be all of that he’s saying what you would need for each scenario
@aculturedspecimen2 жыл бұрын
Yea very few people could actually be this strong. There are tons of civilians in naruto as well, not like everyone can bust out ninjutsu at will. This guy is stretching unbelievably far.
@abbadon9693 Жыл бұрын
@@aculturedspecimen Yeah, but a prerequisite for this is assuming a middle-to-high Jonin. And honestly, you don't really need to have as much Taijutsu talent as Neji, just enough to know Gentle Fist, which pretty much all of the Hyuuga do, and you only really need to know lightning release and maybe earth release. And knowing two elemental releases is not that uncommon for Jonin. As for the Genjutsu, you don't really need to be top-tier, just relatively decent at it.
@MrSasukeSusanoo11 ай бұрын
tbh hyuga with wind is more than enough for a deadly combo, Naruto could unwilllingly create a jutsu that has such accuracy that destroys you with multiple needles on a celular level that not even Tsunade can heal, even the chakra network, a Hyuga who is all about manipulating their chakra with accuracy could easily end your ninja career with that and with not a real hard-hitting effort. Combine that with senjutsu and you have a hyuga who can either snipe you from afar and end your ninja career, throw you jutsus from middle distanca and end your ninja career, or get up close and STILL end your ninja career. Top that with the fact that you could have a secondary release like lightning that could also be combined with their precise chakra manipulation, and you're done. And not even susanoo can stop that, Danzo could with just wind style make a huge cut on sasuke's susanoo, wind + the buff of a hyuga's expertise in chakra manipulation?, I don't see what they CAN'T cut in half with that, and yata mirror just blocks from the front, it's not really invincible, and if you happen to have earth not even susanoo can really be a menace.
@unknownvanguard87492 жыл бұрын
Konan was only impervious to Jiraiya's Fire Style Jutsu because she saturated herself with water beforehand, Jiraiya even says that RIGHT AFTER he hits her with the Fire Style.
@BlaxkSun2 жыл бұрын
Ok…what village is she from again… pretty sure a quick water Justu would fix that
@unknownvanguard87492 жыл бұрын
@@BlaxkSun I'm not quite sure if you were agreeing with me here or not.
@NCHammer232 жыл бұрын
Yeah and she can use water release so it’s safe to assume she can pull that off whenever she wants
@unknownvanguard87492 жыл бұрын
@@NCHammer23 Effectively making her invincible as long as you can't spam fire style against her, saturating herself can only do so much, but it is true that Fire Style takes a lot of Chakra.
@nathanmorgan34572 жыл бұрын
@@unknownvanguard8749 yeah but she did that against base Jiraiya so anyone who'd both much stronger than him and people who are much better with fire style than him could easily do it. Like Itachi could probably easily get past it with ameterasu
@kasehumbert12912 жыл бұрын
When talking about Itachi’s susanoo abilities I am surprised you missed Itachi’s strongest ranged attack Yasaka Magatama where he can throw chakra shurikens which he did as an edo tensei in his fight against edo Nagato. I have never seen any naruto KZbinr mention this ability before which shocks me.
@AlexanderNguyen47392 жыл бұрын
Yeah so you have to be fast & dodge it, itachi wont have the stamina
@josiahrodriguez36332 жыл бұрын
I agree I made a similar comment absolutely this. The yasaka magatama or “beads” if you will I also seem multiple KZbinrs seamlessly walk around or just not talk about it at all it’s mind blowing that it helps a tailed best bomb and rasenshurikento destroy the chibuku tensi
@mkim143882 жыл бұрын
thought the same exact thing
@TheWonkster Жыл бұрын
@tunguyenanh4739 "just play dodge the rockets and hopefully don't get tagged by any part of any of them until he's out of his still enormous stamina despite being so sick he's almost dead."
@MrSasukeSusanoo11 ай бұрын
because susano'o already is suicide for itachi, imagine him trying to use yasaka no magatama as well, he just outright dies, this is not edo itachi, and he's not that dumb to use a combo that will insta-auto game over him.
@TheLastSaint172 жыл бұрын
Yes. Please continue a Could You Survive series, I can't help but feel that could be your best content.
@IWantYourNachos2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see one on Jriyia. then one with Neji were he says just throw a stick at home 😂😂😂
@anthonylamonica83012 жыл бұрын
So here's your ideal mid-level Jonin build for challenging members of the Akatsuki: You have an innate Lightning Nature affinity, and a _particular_ proclivity for Genjutsu. This is your base; these are things you _need_ to be born with, because these are the two things you will be relying on _the most_ in your upcoming fights, and you'll want to have these two facets of your build be the _strongest_ facets of your build. Since every Shinobi is born with _at least one_ innate Chakra Nature affinity, and an increased talent towards either Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, or Genjutsu, you'd be the same. A Byakugan is preferrable, but that might be asking for a bit much; plus, Byakugan consume Chakra quickly, and you don't have all that much to spare as the Joe Average of Shinobi. You _must_ practice the Body Flicker Technique and Kagebuyo to the _absolute extreme_ that a mid-level Jonin with a balanced move-set can be reasonably expected to reach. Body Flicker is the next-best option to the Flying Thunder God Technique as a means of getting into and out of combat range of an opponent, and you'll be needing it _a lot_ because a full _half_ of the Akatsuki have offensive abilities that will _annihilate you_ if they hit you even once. But Body Flicker isn't enough against the Dojutsu wielders; all they need to do is get a sufficiently good _look_ at you, and you're toast, _literally_ in two of the four cases! Kagebuyo is a Taijutsu movement technique that essentially lets you Body Flicker into your enemy's blind spot, right behind them, which is the _only hope_ you have of challenging a Sharingan wielder in a one-on-one fight without a Sharingan of your own. Kagebuyo also combos nicely into touch-activated Genjutsu, which _is_ a thing, and is a _massive_ middle-finger to Deidara! The final skills you'd need to learn is how to be as _infuriatingly obnoxious_ as a human being can _possibly_ be, plus a top-tier acting ability. Some of the Akatsuki are just too far beyond the power and scope of a mid-level Jonin such as yourself, so your strategy is to Chakra stall them. However, only an _imbecile_ would overdraw their Chakra while fighting an opponent that is obviously weaker than themselves! Ideally, you'd be good enough at bluffing about your own abilities that the Akatsuki _think_ that they need to seriously expend Chakra to take you out when they don't, or alternatively you need to make them _hate you so much that they don't give a damn_ as long as you shut up and die! A potential addendum to this ideal list of skills and affinities a mid-level Jonin would need in order to challenge Akatsuki members with a non-zero chance of victory: poison. As far as I know, poison will _still_ affect and kill most of the Akatsuki members if you can even _nick_ them. In fact, the only members who are _definitively_ immune to poison are Sasori and Obito, and that's because we know they don't have proper circulatory systems because _both of them_ are in varying stages of becoming Reverse Pinocchio. They're made either entirely, or significantly, out of wood, and Obito doesn't have a heart to pump blood even if you got poison into his fleshy parts anyway. _Maybe_ Black Zetsu is in the same boat, but we aren't totally sure. The Six Paths of Pain are _literally_ just corpse-puppets, so naturally it wouldn't do a thing to them, but it _would_ work on Nagato. Hidan and Kakuzu _still_ have functional circulatory systems, so poison should work on them, even if only as a paralytic, which is _more_ than sufficient in _their_ cases. Konan _also_ still has a functional circulatory system, or else Obito wouldn't have been able to kill her via impalement, and he'd have needed to _run_ from her. Everyone else is biologically normal, so poison is perfectly valid against them!
@desadograisedrobot515 Жыл бұрын
Paragraph 1: Origin and Background Paragraph 2: Techniques Paragraph 3: Personality and Acting Paragraph 4: Warcrime/Going to Grandma Chio for poison
@nicmalugin-dm9ju5 ай бұрын
Your making one pretty major mistake,you know lightning release including those little needle thingys probably, and well,the sharingan is still an eye
@sunwarriors12 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest the problem with all these strategy is that we all are just normal Jonin we will get blitz and killed in before we could move. We have have to be in the same ball park of power to even do all this.
@charlesdavis89842 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an issue with agreeing on nagato. He was able to reverse track kabutos chakra that even the previous kage couldn’t. Everyone raised even points out that they don’t know who cast it. He also makes a comment when attacking the village about how Tsunade was pooling chakra to her feet. You’re not sneaking up on a rinnegan using uzumaki
@charlesdavis89842 жыл бұрын
Also it’s fair to say that nagato can summon the other bodies of pain, because the other bodies of pain can summon one another
@MrShroomed2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdavis8984 Well, not summon but create puppets with receivers.
@charlesdavis89842 жыл бұрын
@@MrShroomed they aren’t summons, they can be summoned. When they broke into konoha, only 3 were there, they rest were summoned in
@dremskเy Жыл бұрын
@@charlesdavis8984, you can summon one only after creating one
@stefanmccrae2 жыл бұрын
Man I’m tired of no one putting respect on Konan’s name. She deserved more screen time
@Itachi_Uchiha666-n7d2 жыл бұрын
Its not about the Time its what you do when you on
@stefanmccrae2 жыл бұрын
@@Itachi_Uchiha666-n7d touché touché but still! She had obito on the ropes
@LightzyyPKMN2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanmccrae hell man thats only because of the prep time.
@stefanmccrae2 жыл бұрын
@@LightzyyPKMN you’re taking to someone whose favorite super hero is Batman so prep time slander doesn’t affect me
@MALIK-sx2qq2 жыл бұрын
@@LightzyyPKMN remember when Naruto was about strategy and not power levels lol
@murasakibara9512 жыл бұрын
Let's remember each puppet's blade is coated in poison along with all the other weapons they use so you also have to avoid getting a single cut from all of his traps and weapons when facing Sasori
@TheWonkster Жыл бұрын
And he thinks Sasori wouldn't notice a surge of Chakra flying up a thread and cut it? Kidomaru was 14 when Neji killed him, he had almost no idea what he was doing
@kyouskeuzumaki967310 ай бұрын
@@TheWonksterwell if close enough he’d be more or less forced to cut the Chakra threads all at once or one at a time even if he notices likely his poison and iron sand would be the only thing
@amberknight73012 жыл бұрын
34:25 This is actually incorrect. Inoichi, who is one of the best sensor-type ninja in Konoha says that Nagato continuously changes the frequency at which he transmits chakra, making him unable to be reverse-tracked. The only way to do it was with Naruto's Sage Mode and it required him to stab himself with a rod to do it.
@revengance41492 жыл бұрын
even so you could just avoid the six paths and look for high places in the area. Like how during the Pain vs Naruto fight the survivors wanted to check out all the mountaintops around the village. remember we got all the info
@borisoid2 жыл бұрын
Yep, exactly. + Even the entire Hyuga clan didn't notice anything. And neither did Hinata standing right in front of Tendo with her byakugan activated
@leopardtree22492 жыл бұрын
Its just kishimoto dumb writing plot amour and plot hole bullship
@opinanlosjovenesrd34772 жыл бұрын
@@borisoid It was Kilometers away I bet there were people in the forest just like Neji and his team was... So it is more difficult to identify the threat.
@TheEternalFlame572 жыл бұрын
@@opinanlosjovenesrd3477 You do know Hinata is able to see 10km away right? Hinata, one of the lesser Byakugan users
@Grimstone Жыл бұрын
One issue would be splitting the teams up. Usually, the Akatsuki travel in pairs... it's pretty tough to solo 2 of them. You would have to use a lot of kiting and Talk no Jutsu to get them to separate.
@nightshadoew4362 жыл бұрын
There is a much easier way to defeat Tobi and it requires just a tiny bit of prerp: Poison Gas. I don’t care if he can phase through attacks, he needs to breath and he loves to talk. Use a smoke bomb, then attack. He will phase through but you will drop some poison gas palets. He will most likley punch you so just roll with it to be out of the gasses range. Or you know just throw kunai at his feet after the smoke bomb. Since he isn't falling throughthe ground atleast his sole is solid
@TheEternalFlame572 жыл бұрын
Problem is, this won't really work. Obito's Kamui works subconciously, almost like ultra instinct. Plus we know you can breathe in Kamui itself. The reason Minato was able to land the hit, wasn't because he caught Obito off guard, but because he teleported at the last second where Obito was about to touch Minato. We know Obito when he turns solid, has a few seconds of delay before he can phase again. Minato used that to his advantage. So you can't just catch Obito off guard, you need to time out your attack perfectly, for when he is about to land a hit on you
@shadowsenseeternal93712 жыл бұрын
@@TheEternalFlame57 That's not exactly how Kamui works. It is indeed unconscious but when its activated. Most people are of the misconception that when Obito activates Kamui, he's in boxland. They couldn't be more wrong. Even when Obito has activated phasing, he still exists in the real world. Only the part of the body overlapped by some physical substance will be phased through and the body part appears in the Kamui dimension. This is explained in ch. 597. We see this again in Ch. 609 more clearly. It is this aspect of Kamui, that is unconscious. He cannot choose which body parts to teleport (well he has shown some control but that is for another time). All the parts that are supposed to come in contact with a substance are transported unconsciously. Your insinuation on him taking time to transition between solid and ghost mode was never cited in the series or the databooks as far as I remember.
@TheEternalFlame572 жыл бұрын
@@shadowsenseeternal9371 Oh, fair enough, I apologize for having a misconception about Obito's power
@NCHammer232 жыл бұрын
When in doubt? War crime
@nightshadoew4362 жыл бұрын
@@NCHammer23 Learned from the best. Thanks Grandma Chio
@OGalphaminds2 жыл бұрын
this guy is amazing i thought i understood everything about naruto just because i watched every episode 3 times but this guy has an ocean of knowledge that i never considered so deeply this is awesome
@Geist13372 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Pain did comment, when he'd come up against Tsunade, that he could see them concentrating chakra in their feet to try and counteract his shinra tensei; using the info they'd gathered from Choji. So I would imagine the rinnegan CAN see chakra.
@spit-fire2 жыл бұрын
It can see chakra. He saw jiraiya’s detection barrier
@Geist13372 жыл бұрын
@@spit-fire Yeah I did think so. Just wanted to clarify because I think he said it couldn't in the video
@shadow-faye2 жыл бұрын
@@spit-fire he also saw the barrier around konoha
@Nerddenji2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s less that the Rinnegan can see it I think it is because he is a full blooded Uzumaki
@noahblevins95692 жыл бұрын
@@Nerddenji The clan has massive chakra pools, they have no special ability to see chakra.
@ChromaWRLD9992 жыл бұрын
My feelings are hurt… Sasori is my favourite Akatsuki member. He is not forgettable.
@Oz1455 Жыл бұрын
He definitely isn't. If anything, he's pretty iconic, and I wouldn't see it any other way.
@bschneidez2 ай бұрын
He also hard-counters anyone without serious hacks... It goes against the point of the video to say you need to be a hyuga... and even if you were, Sasori still scrapes basically any hyuga in Naruto.
@vao5192 жыл бұрын
Hidan is actually an actual Ninja with Ninja training so he might be able to release Gemjustu but yeah good point Kurenai should have avenged Asuma
@L_vi52 жыл бұрын
Great idea man; this is a very original idea. I can tell you're getting good and will blow up soon. Keep the content flowing and you will be one of the best anime youtubers within the next few years. I promise.
@kareemelrefaay53002 жыл бұрын
All these plans are amazing but it would work in like 10% (20% if I’m generous) that’s with prep time But without prep I think 5% is an optimistic guess and that would work towards the lower end of that list
@animejuggernaut25532 жыл бұрын
I mean, considering the fact we're just pretty strong jonin, I'd say anywhere from 5% to 20% is a LOT better than 0% XD
@shawnseagraves10702 жыл бұрын
Sasuke and above is where the chances get really slim
@mortedorito84132 жыл бұрын
I mean yea lmao those chances are the best your gonna get but really your just trying to survive aka Use strategy’s just long enough to get the fuck away cause killing them is really really really low
@heyfell43012 жыл бұрын
Ok, so the lesson of the fay is: pray to RNGesus to be born as a Hyuga, train to become a Genjutsu specialist, study lighning release as hard as you can, carry around a bunch of paper tag, be REALLY good at dodging big strikes and make sure the walking senzu bean dies first. Seems manageable.
@najex12 жыл бұрын
The problem with all your 'just use genjutsu' strategy, is that pain is also an effective method to break out of it. We see that with Shikamaru breaking out of Tayuya's genjutsu by breaking his own thumb. There are methods to get out, even if you've got zero chacra control.
@Porygon3-D2 жыл бұрын
But that, in turn, requires you be able to hurt yourself in the first place. There are a fair number of genjutsu that leave you immobile, or at least immobile enough to get a fatal attack off. Remember, Shikamaru could only break his finger because he had Shadow Possession.
@najex12 жыл бұрын
@@Porygon3-D I admit, I don't recall the full details of that fight, but the Shadow Possession requires movement as well. Its one of the jutsus that requires hand signs to use.
@Porygon3-D2 жыл бұрын
@@najex1 Just rewatched it recently, and it's implied that the reason he was able to use the jutsu was because he already had it active prior to being placed under genjutsu. Aside from the fact that Tayuya notes that the jutsus main effectiveness is that it immobilizes you, Shikamaru's arms are completely spread out in a way that would make hand signs impossible.
@seraph_rj57002 жыл бұрын
You’re my Tinkerbell Nick, I believe in you!
@darklord83882 жыл бұрын
Nagato has really good sensory abilitys he's the one who sensed where kabuto was and told itachi and he sensed naruto and bee coming before they showed up so sneaking to he's location before the paths of pain show up might not be possible
@gokix2243 Жыл бұрын
Fax
@03a3. Жыл бұрын
Cool video, but I'd like to see a remake where you set actual parameters for our character here. Maybe only using the confirmed jutsu of an established mid-level jonin? Because saying on one fight we use fire and on another we use lightning feels generous. Or idk...roll some dice for randomized stats? 1= no kekkei genkai 2 = Byakugan and so forth
@nyxcariot2 жыл бұрын
Something about Kurenai: wasn't she fairly pregnant around the time of the Hidan/Shimamaru battle? I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly, she and Shimamaru have a conversation after that fight and she's got a belly on her. Might be why she wasn't so keen on jumping into battle to avenge her baby daddy and left that to one of the highest level jonin on the village, and the kids he taught whose four families have a bond going back ages.
@redacted60902 жыл бұрын
Yes and Nick even admits that, and clears up said statement.
@revengance41492 жыл бұрын
yeah but he edits a comment in: "SHE WAS PREGNANT"
@nickyblue48662 жыл бұрын
Maybe hidan got her pregnant?!
@revengance41492 жыл бұрын
@@nickyblue4866 not sure if Im comfortable with you're preferences when it comes to ships my good sir
@redacted60902 жыл бұрын
@@nickyblue4866 ayo bro
@PsyFyFungi2 жыл бұрын
Two things. 1. Nagato is a great sensor actually. 2. Obito can use his kamui on things that aren't himself, he does it all the time. He just doesn't have the long rang "sniper" like effect that Kakashi has. He pulls objects in and out (and people) from the kamui dimension and etc. Great video as always though.
@sickman9124 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the 2nd. Obito used Kamui on other things at least half a dozen times during the show. For the fun of it, I'll name a few: 1) He used it on Minato after successfully chaining him up during the Nine Tails attack (though Minato just teleported back) 2) He used it on bombs to help him plant them underground to help Deidara in his fight with Sasuke 3)He used it on fodder plenty of times, such as using it on Danzo's lookouts prior to Sasuke's fight with Danzo 4) He used it to save Sasuke from being atomized by Onoki 5) He used it on Kakashi to warp him into the Kamui dimension, where they had their epic fight 6) He used it on Kaguya's bone killing ash to save Kakashi from getting hit
@haxkztasy2 жыл бұрын
that Konan section made me personally start thinking... do we actually know that she uses the same "Paper" to make her body whole again with which she attacks or do we just assume that she does? cause it could actually be like Itachi with his Crow's, just that she doesnt need Genjutsu to do the same thing... and if she fights and uses the same paper to make herself whole again, how do we know that she doesn't know about it? it could be that she actually feels that you touched her or the paper that belongs to her body deactivates evry single trick that you have up your sleeve... cause else Obito could've done the same thing and it would be pretty stupid of him not to do it that way and use Izanagi to get her. i personally just think that Konan is prolly stronger and smarter than one might think and i dont think she would throw her body into a fight if a simple paper bomb could kill her if its attached to one of her paper... seems odd, cause then it would mean her Kekkei Genkai would be useless and she should've been beaten more often, cause i dont think that no Shinobi that she has fought against, wouldn't have ever thought about that xD
@athenawolf44672 жыл бұрын
I agree
@MFShro0m2 жыл бұрын
You could say the same about Gaara (deidara basically used the same trick against him) but s*** 🤷🏼♂️
@deyvismejia75292 жыл бұрын
kind of agree because in the fight with obito she explodes herself and then reforms with new paper
@acidaspida8885 Жыл бұрын
Konohamaru is actually really talented though... If Konan notices the tags she'll just throw them back at you and explode you with your own tags.
@Omega_Nova2 жыл бұрын
You'd think more people in the narutoverse would be genjutsu specialists with how useful it can be
@amberknight73012 жыл бұрын
Two things. Firstly, Genjutsu types are just much more rare than Ninjutsu and Taijutsu. Secondly, you need to be REALLY good at Genjutsu to trick people or keep them trapped long enough for you to launch another attack. So you need to be a good amount stronger than the person you're fighting in order to keep them in Genjutsu that's not a small deception.
@spit-fire2 жыл бұрын
it seems the more chakra ur target has compared to you, the harder it is to place them under genjutsu. However skilled genjutsu users like itachi was still able to put Naruto under genjutsu. So in short, the best genjutsu user should have lots of chakra, and skilled chakra control.
@LL-m-n9u2 жыл бұрын
36:39😎Izanagi. Even before Obito used Izanagi, Konan had a ridiculous amount of paper bombs vs Obito, but that didn't stop him.
@Dante__1012 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one Also, the problem with Obito is how are you going to survive long enough to use the strategy?
@ivandreuxzuev94732 жыл бұрын
The real problem is... Obito uses Kamui while moving himself, so yeah you would just leave the explosion tag in that place and he would just go keep advancing... Plus, this is a fun fact, in the Storm 4 Obito has an attack that is literally teleport himself super fast to multiple points in a straight line and leave in each of them an explosive tag, if he does this and you try to hit him... Well you will just have committed suicide
@JukiCombo2 жыл бұрын
It's the same for most of the Akatsuki who are Kage-level threats.
@HC-gm4fo2 жыл бұрын
Dope jutsu
@NCHammer232 жыл бұрын
Sheer fucking luck
@almontemcclendon6612 жыл бұрын
@@ivandreuxzuev9473 the explosive minefield jutsu
@TheWackyWorkbench2 жыл бұрын
Jonin Motsu Hyuga, the Akatsuki Slayer: Byakugan Mid tier sensory type Lightning Style Affinity Earth Style Fire Style (Optional) Gopher Shadow Clones Mid to High-tier Genjutsu 10-20 Explosive Tags Poison Gas (thanks @NightSHadoew) Stabby Skills The ability to dodge (substitution jutsu helps, and even genin know it) Good luck and happy hunting!
@LNGcreepyztv2 жыл бұрын
Man do I love some nc hammer content. This group is definitely one the best groups in anime. Opinion of course New series!?!?!
@GeneralAblon Жыл бұрын
I know what could be a great vid. Do Vandenreich from Bleach,but with a twist. You are a Vandenreich quincy, with a non Schutzstaffel letter of choice. You get to steal 1 non-Yamanoto Bankai, and you have to beat the entire Gotei 13 at the start of the war. Can you do it?
@joshlong88022 жыл бұрын
The reason kurenai didn’t avenge asuma was because she was pregnant or had just had a baby. That one should have been pretty obvious
@Next2Null2 жыл бұрын
It literally says that on screen as he says it lmao
@joshlong88022 жыл бұрын
@@Next2Null Ah lol, I wasn’t looking at my screen at that moment
@MattFromHawaii2 жыл бұрын
Konan; reminds me of the character from Read or Die lol I forgot her name, but her code name was "the paper", her ability being able to control paper to her will. One of my favorite anime that I often still watch here and there. The OVA or the series. Love the sound track too 👌 the fight scenes are super cool imo
@pepballer63752 жыл бұрын
Apparently Being Suicidal is also a requirement to join the akatsuki
@zachkunz47062 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick! I would argue that Itachi does have lethal ranged capabilities that were either not mentioned or overlooked: 1. He is an expert at shuriken jutsus and usage. Certainly, this would be a ranged issue for us. 2. His incredibly strong ranged attack in his Susanoo form called Yasaka Beads. He uses this in his fight against Nagato when they were in edo tensei. In conjunction with B's tailed beast bomb and the Yasaka Beads they were able to blow up a Planetary Devastation. 3. He still has his fire release which can still be lethal (granted, fire balls never really work in the show, so likely this won't give us trouble) 4. His genjutsu is long ranged as well. All the opponent has to do is make contact with any part of his body, not just his eyes (I believe he put Naruto under a genjutsu early on on in the show just by twitching his finger as the trigger, not necessarily looking into his eyes though). I could be wrong about the any body part thing, but still; not being able to look at your opponents face to stop his long range genjutsu can be problematic.
@MrSasukeSusanoo11 ай бұрын
Susano'o + Yasaka on an alive Itachi (which is the example of the video), is suicide for him, he would just outright die, too much pressure for his ill body and relatively average chakra pool. The genjutsu, the only part of his body that is confirmed he can use genjutsu with is his finger, not all the body, and as long as you don't look at him in the eyes you can still release yourself with Kai, the only dead end genjutsu is tsukuyomi. With the other points I agree
@KiloBishopGoto2 жыл бұрын
So all you need to beat the Akatsuki is explosive tags, Earth & lightning release, clone jutsu, basic intelligence, & genjutsu lol Kakashi could solo with prep 😂
@Friendly_G Жыл бұрын
Now that i think about it, jugo would have a VERY long life span, even longer than the uzumakis
@alfonsuskristo16242 жыл бұрын
I have a great idea, although a boring one if you apply this when you're isekai-ed to the Naruto world, you can 'defeat' the Akatsuki without lifting your finger. Step 1, befriend Naruto. Step 2, convince Sasuke that you're not a threat to him. Step 3, tell them both(and/or the Hokage) all about Akatsuki and how to defeat them. Step 4, sit back and relax while the main character demolishes the Akatsuki one by one. Step 5, tell Naruto and/or the Hokage how to defeat team taka including Sasuke after Sasuke kills Itachi and maybe some other members. Step 6, build a shrine in the middle of Konoha to worship Nick NCHammer23 because he brings us wisdom about everything in the Naruto world including info about the Akatsuki.
@heyfell43012 жыл бұрын
Or ya know... just memorize Naruto's speech he used against Pain and Obito so you can talk-no-Jutsu them, and then you ask for their help to stop the remaining ones.
@alfonsuskristo16242 жыл бұрын
@@heyfell4301 Well that's assuming you have Naruto's charisma, empathy, and the superpower to survive speaking that long and not get killed. Naruto usually use talk no jutsu after he defeated the enemy or when the enemy is weakened remember?
@artist01542 жыл бұрын
@@alfonsuskristo1624 I can even imagine: Look guys I know this is hard to believe but could you bring the whole Hyuga clan here ok?... let me see this is chapter 30, did you know where is this toilet place? I want to save Asuma
@jobwilliams57052 жыл бұрын
He's activating the Jutsu, Diedara that is. He has to internalize the clay before it's activated, and internally is where Chakra is molded for jutsu. By the time the clay becomes active, his body modification forbidden jutsu has activated the explosive clay control sub-jutsu and molded the Chakra for the explosion, as he would have no way to externally mold the Chakra after sending out the clay to make it do big boom.
@lotusblue79092 жыл бұрын
The moment when he was talking about how to defeat Konan it sounded eerily familiar to how Deidara defeated Gaara in the akatsuki ark🤔
@NCHammer232 жыл бұрын
Ding ding ding
@williamsebastian8532 жыл бұрын
Maybe cz both gaara and konan controls a vast volume of carbon-based material, AKA sands and paper in a very creative and masterful way
@zackfaircc56242 жыл бұрын
tbf, i'm not even sure why gaara took so long to wake up after deidara's fight, he didnt really sustain much damage, deidara didnt know about his sand armor, which he still had when the explosion occured, gaara just exhausted himself after using all that chakra to protect the village from the explosion and then from the sand used to protect him. So theoretically, especially being a jinchuriki he should have only needed a couple hours and be good. And speaking on being a jinchuriki, why didnt shukaku just pop out now that gaara was unconscious, that always irked me on how they just made his tailed beast a non factor in capturing it, especially knowing how shukaku, being a fuinjutsu master, can just pop out of his seal if the will of his jinchuriki is distracted (aka asleep or unconscious)
@potapotapotapotapotapota2 жыл бұрын
nah bro just learn the ransengan, become a jinchuriki and it'll be a piece of cake
@groovemymonkey35012 жыл бұрын
On Deidara he said Deidara was the youngest to join the Akatsuki at 19, wasn’t Itachi the youngest to join then? Itachi joined the Akatsuki at age 14.
@prowiserpuffling95682 жыл бұрын
diedara joined at 9
@Ishallreignsupreme2 жыл бұрын
@@prowiserpuffling9568 lol not true
@vaasmontenegro20162 жыл бұрын
@@prowiserpuffling9568 bro what 💀
@MysticalArcane Жыл бұрын
Deidara also joined at 14.
@dootslayer1411Ай бұрын
37:17 He does this multiple times. He constantly uses kamui to pull people into it. Odds are his MS just creates close-range portals, and Kakashi's does long-range, with both being able to choose what does and doesn't go through
@dramaticfrenchtoast59152 жыл бұрын
AMAZING CONTENT. FABULOUS EDITING. I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT NARUTO FROM THIS. WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH. MUCH LOVE.
@fueshun2 жыл бұрын
This comment sums up all me feelings on this brothas channel. Truly is a goat
@nif3869 Жыл бұрын
Surviving Naruto? I just saw you tell us how to become the Hokage
@AquariusProductions12 жыл бұрын
Kakuzu in theory could spam 8 inner gates right? cause he has 5 whole hearts that he can swap around with his own. Wouldve been insane to see
@karmaSatoru2 жыл бұрын
The way he said don’t let him bite Konan had me dying I’m sorry😂
@dani_dani192 жыл бұрын
Kurenai was pregnant at that time
@gianetessitore8082 жыл бұрын
you know, all you really need is a good speach that starts like "i was like you once" and boom just like that.
@nategraham69462 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Aburame Beetle Jamming Jutsu would help interrupt the signal going to the 6 Paths of Pain, thus making them less effective. And Tobi can use Kamui on other things, he bring others into his dimension and was originally going to suck all of Konan's paper into the dimension until he realized there were paper bombs mixed in.
@NCHammer232 жыл бұрын
There’s no reason to assume it wouldn’t
@TheCrazyCapMaster2 жыл бұрын
As for Obito, the clothing transferring is based on his ability to transport, not just himself, but anything he’s touching. This is actually a major goal of his during his fight against Minato, if he can grab Minato and send him into Kamui, he wins. He’s touching his clothes, the clothes transport with his body. He touches you, he transports you and lets you starve to death in there 🤣 or just dumps some dangerous creatures on your head or something. The explosive tags are really the only option that work against him when fighting him alone, since you can get them into the other space via some trickery like Konan did. If the explosive tags are attached to his body AND in the other space as well, then he’s stuck. But if you don’t have both sides covered, he can dip into whichever side is safe. Heck, if tags on both sides don’t go off at the same time, he can eject the tags in the other space right back into your face 🤣
@Hertaspacestation69802 жыл бұрын
So your saying team Kurenai will defeat the Akatsuki since genjutsu non- Ocular (Kurenai), lightning release and byakugan (Hinata), and tracking Nagato (literally everyone in her team) will work
@tayloromondi35002 жыл бұрын
Hitting obito when he is in the akatsuki is almost impossible for regular jonin because at that point he had learnt to always have kamui on passively without thinking of which specific body part to use it on . Minato managed to trick him but I think if minato fought him after he learnt to use it passively it would be much harder to land a hit
@wisdom34162 жыл бұрын
“You just have to dodge Amaterasu” Literally only one person has ever done that. Then he got hit by it the second time.
@akirra92 Жыл бұрын
11:55 "I, Lady Tsunade, head of the Medical Ninja and Hokage, declare Asuma's death shall be revenged by Asuma's pregnant, still living wife". That's probably a War Crime @NCHammer23
@rebekahoberson14472 жыл бұрын
Another way to beat Deidara is to make him mad enough that he just explodes himself. I mean sure you might not get away but, you didn’t really say I had to survive the encounter, so...
@lucasbeltramealmeida232017 күн бұрын
Yep, watching this after 2 years... and man, about Hidan, I've never thought about Kurenai avenging Asuma, but imagine how cool it would be if she put Hidan in a genjutsu where he thinks he's doing all the ritual stuff in her, and at first that's what we're thinking as well, and THEN, when we all think it's over, comes a scene of her saying: Shikamaru, now. Then we have all that Shikamaru sequence as the rest fight against Kakuzu... man, that would be cool
@ShinennoHikari Жыл бұрын
So I noticed you forgot some stuff about Itachi's capabilities, mainly that his Tsusano'o can also launch megatama as offensive weapons like it did against Pein. He also has a pretty high number of ranged katon attacks based on his fight with sasuke so staying at range might not be as helpful as you make it out to be.
@leannestewart72153 ай бұрын
9:01 he is also shown that terrifying form in Naruto.
@tywedlake69882 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real we’d lose to all of these people lol
@livingitup3652 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@shoots1x9072 жыл бұрын
Yes I can survive these fictional characters…
@theblacksakura87322 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on whether konan’ jutsu is secretly wood style or not? I wish she had more to her back story because her Justu seems like a kekeigenkai but we never get any word on her clan or yahiko just nagato being an uzumaki
@faithless1385 Жыл бұрын
Him doing akatsuki solo is impressive but him getting compliments from hashirama was the real goat description...
@titekubo19972 жыл бұрын
No they would kill us less than a second we probably couldn't beat zetsu
@IWantYourNachos2 жыл бұрын
nah I completely agree most could beat Hidan.
@soulstopp2 жыл бұрын
Umm are u the real tite kubo cuz bleach is epic
@KameSonRaijin2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video over someone blessed with a cool kekkei genkai. So you’re a Hyuga and a true shinobi through in through with paper bombs and even puppets lol. And you primarily focus on lightning release which should theoretically increase the ceiling on your trigrams. Konohamaru is a good example! You want long range lightning release too. And enough proficiency in genjutsu to stagger opponents. And what? Train EightGates as much as possible? Also proficiency in sensing. You rock! Which mountain would you travel to for a summoning pact and to learn SageMode?
@TylerSpaulding2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I recently started Naruto/Boruto for the first time. I wish I would have watched it sooner lol I Just watched the episode where Sasuke discovers the ten tails trapped in the dimension with the otsutsuki shrines. What are your thoughts/ideas on who the two otsutsuki members that have been smashed?
@prowiserpuffling95682 жыл бұрын
lord jashin
@MFShro0m2 жыл бұрын
Which episode’s that? What’s the episode number?
@TylerSpaulding2 жыл бұрын
@@MFShro0m it's episode 203.
@neonanbu192 жыл бұрын
Man you really are the goat! Love the gaming content and anime content truly deserve millions!
@abdalrahmanalamari38462 жыл бұрын
Hello I just want to say u genuinely cured my depression thank you for all the amazing content( also can u do one piece stuff)
@Pathoarymusic2 жыл бұрын
Clinical depression is genetic and has no cure
@Lordxzamasu2 жыл бұрын
The definition of easier said then done
@RickAngel30002 жыл бұрын
The only reason Asuma lost to Hidan is due to a lack of intel. He had to think on his feet while figuring out Hidan's tactics. Same goes for all the Akatsuki. They would have been so much easier to beat if they had the same intel on them we have now. We know their every move and skill and personality, but would have been much harder without this intel. Something to think about.
@densleycallum84552 жыл бұрын
That flash bang had me crying. 😂
@AdityaKumar-qb4qn2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone can out smart itachi Or defeat him until he wanted to be defeated by you. He probably is the most genius, knowledgeble, wise, and patient person in all anime history.
@uros2321 Жыл бұрын
Fanboy
@masonsuggs56122 ай бұрын
I know I’m like 2 years too late but please make this a thing again this video was so fun I love using world knowledge to find solutions to impossible problems
@metarock30542 жыл бұрын
Yes, lightning style is strong against water style user. But the Kisame can absorb chakra and when fused with samehada the limit increased 10 folds. Out of all the nature transformation justu, lighting justu are ones that have raw chakra radiating out of them. Samehada ate killer bee’s lightning style chakra😎. Genjustu argument… samehada can share chakra and wake him up. Tsukyomi is not included. Pretty sure… only Kakashi and Guy are the ones that can take down Kisame!
@Viroh2 жыл бұрын
I think people like Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi, Madara, Hashirama, Minato, Nagato and Obito can kill Kisame too.
@heyfell43012 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Kisame is probably the most ridiculous one on this list. You can outsmart all the rest of them, but with Kisame you either are strong enough to beat him up with raw strength, or you pray for RNGesus that Samehada likes you enough to change masters. Tactics aren't a thing against someone who's biggest strength is "being powerful".
@itachi16ful2 жыл бұрын
@@heyfell4301 ur not outsmarting itachi remember he let sasuke when. He knows he’s low in chakra.
@heyfell43012 жыл бұрын
@@itachi16ful he still has to use strategy, he wins because he's smart, so you still can technically beat him if you're smarter, which... yeah, is hard, but it's possible. Sasuke is dumb as hell btw.
@metarock30542 жыл бұрын
@@Viroh We are talking about Jonin of hidden leaf… not hokages😊
@EliB2072 жыл бұрын
28:49 I thought he was going to say just flip him over 🤣
@Rikufan19942 жыл бұрын
I was thinking on the Kisame fight regarding using Gen Jutsu on him. Assuming he still has Samehada with him, wouldnt it be possible that it would just wake him up from it like the eight tails did it with B in his fight with Sasuke ?? Because, Samehada is sentient and aware of things (mostly I think) so this might be a possibility right ?
@MerajKhan-qb9qo2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's a bit different... Since eight tails was inside so he could control the chakra of killer B.
@MerajKhan-qb9qo2 жыл бұрын
Kisame don't share same chakra with samejada, thus the only way it can help break Outta genjutsu is pain. So if your genjutsu is strong enough to kisame would be in genjutsu for little time. Just trap kisame or kill him while he's sleeping in genjutsu.
@Rikufan19942 жыл бұрын
@@MerajKhan-qb9qo Aye, that makes sense. Thank you for letting me know, I was not really considering that ~
@BluePriest2 ай бұрын
Remember, as long as you are a Hyuga Clan member that's proficient in lighting release, Earth release, several types of genjutsu, Gentle fist, and Itachi forgets he has genjutsu and doesn't just 1 shot you, you're good.
@theamazingmarlbito62932 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful idea for a series
@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 Жыл бұрын
long range lightning release wouldn't beat kisame. He would simply absorb the technique. Samehada can easily absorb projectiles. He did so with fireball jutsu, samehada just thinks the fire chakra is too spicy
@danielsandoval292011 ай бұрын
if itachi had no illness and taken the ems from shishui he would’ve been unstoppable theoretically
@daniellemahones81294 ай бұрын
A lot of people don't know that to get EMS from someone you need to be closely related to them, Like Madara and Izuna or Itachi and Sasuke. This is why Obito never got EMS even though he had a wall of Sharingan - not that he needed it but it would have been nice to have since he loses his Hashirama cell arm like twice -. However Itachi could have taken Fugaku's eyes.
@Ozubura Жыл бұрын
1. Have a kekkei genkai 2. Don't talk; immediately attack and exploit weakness 3. If Naruto begins crying and talking, use Swingsan
@zombiescursevoid Жыл бұрын
To beat every Akatsuki you need to be a hyuga with earth and lightning release, a lot of paper bombs, sound based and ocular genjutsu, a lot of stamina, good stealth and deception, and finally good long ranged attacks
@kylewilliams2769 Жыл бұрын
Imagine calling yourself the encyclopedia on Naruto and not remembering that Hidans Scythe is throwable
@clarke40352 жыл бұрын
The flash bang part had me dying 🤣
@saadabdullah57862 жыл бұрын
Finally what I wanted this video is amazing
@DarkendWisp2 жыл бұрын
pass me a gasmask, one of those spear things they use to kill sharks, a taser, an AK-47, some ammo and Access to the biggest nuke you can get then sit back and watch the show
@haku65062 жыл бұрын
Like the idea of a surviving Naruto series a lot. I feel bad that I don't really watch the other anime stuff, but I'm just not far enough in them to watch without being spoiled
@dzazdomega2632 жыл бұрын
Genjutsu is underrated I would use smoke bomb, Body Flicker, Shadow Clones, Everywhere Shuriken, and have them pull out a poison smog scroll. Have the clones surround the Akatsuki and use Transformation to other Akatsuki members. I use Wind Style: Silent Killing - wind blades that aims for the throat. The clones go in using Fire Style: Will of Fire - a touch ignites chakra into Flames. Seal them in Earth Style: Sealed Coffin
@blacewest59992 жыл бұрын
aye bro "spits needles out of his mouth" that's genma my boy
@brucehamm20722 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that itachi was so op that kishimoto himself said the only reason he had him killed of so soon was because if he was present in the battle with madara he would have made the battle against madara to easy