Counselor Troi talk to Mark Twain about humanities future

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April 5, 2063

April 5, 2063

Күн бұрын

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@wakcedout
@wakcedout 2 жыл бұрын
current star trek writers need to take notice. at no point does troi or the rest of the away team turn their noses at the goings on of mark twains time. at no point do they lecture him on how terrible the things occuring in his time are. they simply accept that it was a different time and troi merely explains to Mr. Twain that humanity has grown from the time he knows. that is how you tackle sensitive topics in a TV show, you dont have to slap it in the audiences face, you simply need to make them take a moment to think, just like mark twain did in the turbolift.
@TangomanX2008
@TangomanX2008 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean well but they would not need to lecture Twain about the evils of this time. If you notice, he is well aware of the evils of his time. What he didint realize was that Humanity had overcome poverty, imperialism, prejudice, oppression, ignorance, etc until Troi informed him of that. I do agree though that STNG did a much better job of exploring political and ethical questions than newer Sci Fi.
@wakcedout
@wakcedout 2 жыл бұрын
@@TangomanX2008 you missed my point, the writing twains character recognizes the evils of his time and just accepts them as the way things are. The tng crews era understands this same concept as troi explains that humanity had grown beyond it. If written today there would be this in your face make you feel bad as oppose to a subtly crafted make you think moment. Shows of that time period were written better when it came to that. It wasn't until the end when you the viewer began thinking yourself, another show that got one season but wonderfully captured the same essence but in more modern terms was alien nation. It was there but you saw how the characters navigated it and reflected on how you yourself would act.
@TangomanX2008
@TangomanX2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@wakcedout I guess I see Mark differently. He did assume and thought that certain evils that were present in humanity in the 19tn century were present in the 24th, but he was attempting to call them out. In fact, for a moment there he did not respect the technological progress of 24th century humanity because he thought he was perceiving the same evils of 19th century humanity, and that was more important to him.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 2 жыл бұрын
If you think New Trek is so "in your face" with its political messages, then you haven't seen much Star Trek. The writers have been using Star Trek to address political and social injustices since the original series in the '60s.
@jonathanrobertson3406
@jonathanrobertson3406 2 жыл бұрын
ALL of you are missing the point. A future with no cigars?!?! 😜
@rasmuslernevall6938
@rasmuslernevall6938 Жыл бұрын
That little giggle when he sees the blue fellow is perhaps the finest giggle I have ever heard from an actor. Hysterical!
@alwaysabiggafish3305
@alwaysabiggafish3305 Жыл бұрын
Close, after the first doctor and yoda
@NormAppleton
@NormAppleton 11 ай бұрын
Marina had her moments
@sg39g
@sg39g 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best scenes from Star Trek. A man from the past who describes and seems to defend the way of life of his time while criticizing what he sees in what is for him the future, but who in fact plays devil's advocate to trick Troi into convincing him and who emotionally asserts that the thing he misses the most is nothing compared to the eradication of poverty. This is the soul of Star Trek.
@michaelricketson1365
@michaelricketson1365 2 жыл бұрын
How was poverty eradicated?
@sg39g
@sg39g 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelricketson1365 In the Star Trek universe, humanity lived through the Eugenics Wars and then World War III. Then there was the first contact with the Vulcans. Presumably, humanity learned from their mistakes and the Vulcans helped humans change their society. This discussion between Twain and Troi suggests that it was the end of capitalism that was a major cause of the eradication of poverty. On other occasions in TNG and DS9 there are also other critiques of capitalism. To my knowledge, there is no clearer information in Star Trek about the eradication of poverty, but there are a lot of undertones. From a more real point of view, and as a former administrator of an organization for the defense of unemployed people, I can say that the elimination of poverty is not something difficult. It would suffice to apply the principle of minimum viable income and the principle of guaranteed minimum income. These are principles that are or have been successfully applied in some countries. Unfortunately, capitalism and poverty serve some people well, especially politicians, and there is no political will to eradicate poverty. But in theory it's an easy thing to do.
@michaelricketson1365
@michaelricketson1365 2 жыл бұрын
@@sg39g Thanks for the reply. I don’t believe that poverty can be eradicated, that strikes me as a fairy tale. Economics have a downside like everything else and are a part of the human condition, as much as hate, jealousy, laziness, etc. Troi made her position unbelievable when she said that hopelessness and despair disappeared along with poverty, as if we need poverty to experience such negativity. Economics are not the only pillar of society.
@sg39g
@sg39g 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelricketson1365 Are you american?
@michaelricketson1365
@michaelricketson1365 2 жыл бұрын
@@sg39g I’m just myself, not a label.
@bencarlson4300
@bencarlson4300 2 жыл бұрын
I love this incarnation of Twain so much, he borders on being overly comedic but reigns it in just enough to leave a very realistic and thoughtful impression. This scene is also a thesis statement on why newer Star Trek isn’t really Star Trek.
@teneleven2818
@teneleven2818 2 жыл бұрын
What he said near the end is a nightmare for the writers of the new fake trek they put out now
@christopherdean1326
@christopherdean1326 2 жыл бұрын
No biggie, but "reins" not "reigns", like reining in a horse...
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke 2 жыл бұрын
@@teneleven2818 this is what the hack writers all over Hollyweird can't grasp. They're all about look how bad things are. Everything is worthless. It's a very nihilistic view of things. For them there is no hope, no Joy, just endless screes of wha! Look at ME!!!!! Put this scene up against anything in STD and Peehard and the contrast is striking and not in a good way. Meanwhile these idiots think they're morally superior for pointing this out. All they're really doing is pointing to their wretched debasement and cynical view of Life.
@bencarlson4300
@bencarlson4300 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherdean1326 Autocorrect has ruined my spelling ability
@christopherdean1326
@christopherdean1326 2 жыл бұрын
@@bencarlson4300 It is a curse upon the English language! I wonder if other people find it equally ruinous in other languages....
@JustSumGuy01
@JustSumGuy01 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain represents modern day writers on what they THINK the future will be like. Troi represents the true fans that believe the Star Trek future is more hopeful and brighter than one thinks
@elih9700
@elih9700 3 жыл бұрын
Based.
@Lyoko012345
@Lyoko012345 3 жыл бұрын
Let me put it this way. Every Eden has a snake. Star Trek represents a bright future for humanity. A future where humanities darker aspects are no longer at the forefront and aren’t deciding factors in politics and every day life. But they’re still their at the individual and personal level. And just because earth has managed to leave prejudice behind doesn’t mean the rest of the universe has. TOS and TNG show the Eden the Federation has made but very rarely do they show the snake. They occasionally cross the snakes path but they don’t fully show the snake. DS9 and VOY occasionally showed the snake but tended to focus on showing/promoting the Eden. The new series focus on the snake. They show the darker sides of the federation, such as section 31. Let us not forget that while Kirk was preaching peace, tolerance and freedom during his 5 year mission the Federation was actively at war with the Klingons. And when Picard first started continuing the mission to seek out new life and civilizations the Federation was at war with the Cardassian. The snake has always been there. They just never focused on it. The new series is showing us that the fight against prejudice and hatred is a never ending battle and how easy it is for an Utopia of kindness and understanding can fall if they become complacent.
@JustSumGuy01
@JustSumGuy01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lyoko012345 That's a good thought but I don't think the current show runners are thinking like you do. The new shows are about edge and drama. They have none of the charm of the old series and is all about flashy special effects, gore, f bomb and almost mindless action
@elih9700
@elih9700 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustSumGuy01 It's mostly bells and whistles.
@Sibbot
@Sibbot 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lyoko012345 Yeah it's bs and you know it.
@richartrod
@richartrod 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Mark Twain seems right at home in the 24th century. Still his cantankerous, skeptical and lovable old self. 😏
@andrewmurray1550
@andrewmurray1550 3 жыл бұрын
he truly is in "King Picard's Court" now.
@ered203
@ered203 3 жыл бұрын
Classics are classics for a reason. The Beatles would probably still be popular in the 24th century as well. We still listen to Mozart today.
@EmptyMan000
@EmptyMan000 2 жыл бұрын
@@ered203 Classics gain their status for the ability to touch the hearts and minds of people no matter their race, culture, or generation. Classics appeal to that timeless want that humans desire, no matter the age they live in.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 2 жыл бұрын
@@ered203 Beatles aren’t even that good. Don’t you dare compare them to Mozart. Beatles were new and ground breaking at the time. They did a lot for music. But that doesn’t mean they are good or classics
@jamesboulger8705
@jamesboulger8705 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. Did you say you knew Mark Twain personally?
@OrbitalAstronaut
@OrbitalAstronaut 3 жыл бұрын
I really like Mark Twain trying to understand Gene’s Vision.
@nikolai60
@nikolai60 3 жыл бұрын
I like how, as cynical and skeptical as he is, the promise of a future without the inequalities and oppressiveness of the modern day were enough of a temptation for his shell to crack almost immediately to let the hope in.
@Blink_____
@Blink_____ Жыл бұрын
It's a pretty neat trick, they still use it today hoping you won't notice.
@sharkusvelarde
@sharkusvelarde 9 ай бұрын
Twain is correct, we won't change, it's in our nature to hate the "other"
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 4 жыл бұрын
One of Counselor Troi's best scenes is also one of the best scenes in the whole show. Nice.
@emperorninja1965
@emperorninja1965 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Mark Twain was out of character. This is just hack work done by socialists.
@Poolboy001
@Poolboy001 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorninja1965 if you don't like socialists why are you watching Star Trek?
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poolboy001 Because at one point, before Woketards took over, Star Trek was not about socialism. Full automation of the means of production is not the same thing as government owning the means of production.
@warealpha
@warealpha 3 жыл бұрын
@@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER your use of “woketards” said literally everything i need to know about you and your lack of reality. lmaoooooooo
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER 3 жыл бұрын
@@warealpha Woketard! Don't hide from your identity. Say it with PRIDE. Celebrate it! Make it your gender of the month. Until you grow up a little.
@Enfors
@Enfors Жыл бұрын
Such a great scene. Watching it, I just realized that Star Trek is one of very few shows (or movies, or books, or anything) that portrays a *positive* future.
@edwardk3
@edwardk3 Жыл бұрын
No but the captain it's a man!
@toxicninja3247
@toxicninja3247 3 жыл бұрын
"Young lady I come from a time ...Where prejudice and intolerance are common place" I didn't know mark twain was also in Star Trek Picard
@rjframe4410
@rjframe4410 3 жыл бұрын
the federation WAS decent for a time, but like anything complacency , fear, and corruption got involved..Star trek Picard is DS9 to its logical end point. the Federation has darkness, and so does the universe, TNG was about the best of us, and the best of the federation. The reality is, for every enterprise, theres a few dozen certios. The brightest light still casts a shadow somewhere.
@mikewright3029
@mikewright3029 3 жыл бұрын
*zing!* XD
@Sibbot
@Sibbot 3 жыл бұрын
@@rjframe4410 Besides the poetic candor you seem to not understand the Federation or it's ideals.
@rjframe4410
@rjframe4410 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sibbot no i think i do, there's alot of rose colored glasses in the Stark Trek fandom though
@mattabraham3549
@mattabraham3549 3 жыл бұрын
rj frame I’m guessing you’re hinting at de Tocqueville’s critique of American democracy. I thoroughly agree with you. Just sucks to ‘see through’ those rose colored glasses and have your childhood love of country smashed. Kinda hurts actually.
@mzmadmike
@mzmadmike 3 жыл бұрын
Twain was big into technology and development and would have loved the ship.
@tanukiman3855
@tanukiman3855 5 жыл бұрын
Was there any carpet left on the Enterprise set after that actor got done chewing it?
@arceusthecreator9746
@arceusthecreator9746 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@loginbrags7016
@loginbrags7016 3 жыл бұрын
@@arceusthecreator9746 yeah, what?
@jamesguay120
@jamesguay120 3 жыл бұрын
chewing the carpet ???
@coffeeveins
@coffeeveins 3 жыл бұрын
Scenery… I think you meant to say chewing the scenery. Chewing or munching on carpet has some whole other connotations.🤔😏
@hettbeans
@hettbeans 3 жыл бұрын
@@coffeeveins Lmao
@sharkyfish3492
@sharkyfish3492 2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Hardin, did a fantastic job here as Mark Twain. This is one of my fav TNG episodes of the whole series.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 2 жыл бұрын
I love how jovial he is. I think I need to reread some Twain since graduating highschool. I remember him being pretty down to earth like this.
@jackwimmer2249
@jackwimmer2249 4 жыл бұрын
“Poverty was eliminated on earth a long time ago.” Wish that were true today already.
@alexhawkins1795
@alexhawkins1795 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s just wait for the Third World War and the Second Coming of Jesus.
@ensignmjs7058
@ensignmjs7058 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexhawkins1795 , are they bringing their starships with them?
@indiajohnson
@indiajohnson 4 жыл бұрын
Notice how she only mentioned Earth? Nothing about their colonies, remember Natasha Yar and where she came from.
@jackwimmer2249
@jackwimmer2249 4 жыл бұрын
@@indiajohnson good point! Thanks for mentioning that!
@ensignmjs7058
@ensignmjs7058 4 жыл бұрын
@@indiajohnson, Tasha's colony was outside Federation control.
@jedsithor
@jedsithor Жыл бұрын
Sirtis looks absolutely divine in this episode.
@gdubbs680
@gdubbs680 3 жыл бұрын
Never understood the importance of this scene. Its a lesson for many of us.
@markallen3293
@markallen3293 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain, my most favorite author, lecturer, humorist. He, at one time in his life was studying to become a man of the cloth. One should read, "Letters to the Earth."
@zora_noamflannery2548
@zora_noamflannery2548 2 жыл бұрын
- Twain? TLDR. Can you put it in a meme? - Today's audience.
@Chuck-PK
@Chuck-PK 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this version of Twain met old Bones from the first episode, cantankerous squared.
@diegomondaca7321
@diegomondaca7321 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain reminds me of my grumpy grandfather but mark Twain is capable of listening and taking in new ideas.
@jameskessler2588
@jameskessler2588 3 жыл бұрын
in that fashion, he reminds me of both mine. One was grumpy and the other wasn't and was capable of listening
@indefatigable8193
@indefatigable8193 2 жыл бұрын
Dude the late 80s and early 90s was for some reason obsessed with Twain. So many movies and tv shows. But TNG pulls it off perfect.
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier 2 жыл бұрын
Marina Sirtis played this scene perfectly.
@hanssvineklev648
@hanssvineklev648 2 жыл бұрын
@NoahSpurrier. I think you’re right. Too bad the writing is so mindless.
@NoahSpurrier
@NoahSpurrier 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanssvineklev648 Well, it was a sci-fi TV show. It was a broad appeal entertainment series that was better than most garbage at the time or now. Is anything on TV perfect? I thought this was a funny episode and one of their better efforts.
@TuxedAaron
@TuxedAaron 2 жыл бұрын
This is a scene that I think you appreciate more as an adult. I was still a kid when I first watched this and Twain came off as a dick when I first saw him (which is not WHOLLY invalid, coming from a kid's perspective). It isn't until you get older that you learn Twain was a cynic...and when you consider the age he lived in, the man had A LOT to be cynical about. So when he at least gets to see a glimmer of hope for mankind's future, it is a satisfying moment.
@stevenstewart3171
@stevenstewart3171 Жыл бұрын
Great writing. This is the Star Trek that I miss.
@MultiMrsmurf
@MultiMrsmurf 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you get a hint with his confort around Guinan, but he barely bats an eye at another species, has his misconceptions proven wrong then is willing to give up an addiction if it means all this sociatal progress
@mitche5007
@mitche5007 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Star Trek😊
@icwiz
@icwiz Жыл бұрын
1:03 I love that little laugh when he sees a Bolian
@realQuestion
@realQuestion 2 жыл бұрын
Troi seems genuinely charmed here and looks cute
@free_live_free-511
@free_live_free-511 2 жыл бұрын
i see an imperialist sneering at a barbarian
@JS-wp4gs
@JS-wp4gs Жыл бұрын
@@free_live_free-511Then you're delusional
@ronaldproctor9454
@ronaldproctor9454 7 ай бұрын
And since when... does she not look cute and simply lovely to gaze upon and make men and some women's head turn when she passes by to gander at such beauty???
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain was so awesome in this
@isleofweebs
@isleofweebs 5 ай бұрын
What amazing writing and a beautiful story! Love Samuel Clemens
@Vention1MGTOW
@Vention1MGTOW 6 жыл бұрын
That was a good episode.
@jamesguay120
@jamesguay120 3 жыл бұрын
he did a incredible mark twain
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask how you know? You met him?
@Cobalt985
@Cobalt985 4 ай бұрын
@@markfox1545 Yep
@CrazyJoeClark429
@CrazyJoeClark429 3 жыл бұрын
She is everything
@SkepticalChris
@SkepticalChris Жыл бұрын
Anyone who knows Mark Twain's social viewpoints knows that in this scene, he's largely playing devil's advocate. He was a progressive mind, anti-racism, anti-slavery and a supporter of Women's suffrage. Mark Twain really was ahead of his time, and it was a genius move of Star Trek to transport him to the future to play on how he would hypothetically see how Mark Twain, a man who lived in the peak of the gilded age on how a progressive egalitarian society like the Federation would be like. And as he says, its worth giving up cigars for after all, meaning he certainly approves of this vision of the future, and reading on Mark Twain's own writings I think the Trek writers certainly understood him well.
@georger6624
@georger6624 2 жыл бұрын
I love this episode it’s fantastic
@Number6_
@Number6_ 9 ай бұрын
Next generation has its moments, but they are very few and far between.
@jdfree49
@jdfree49 2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek Picard: "Nevermind literally everything Troi said."
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain, "A lie can travel halfway round the world while the truth is putting on its shoes" Captain Picard, "Helm...plot a course around the world to this very spot...warp 9...engage!"
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain, "Captain...did you consider this stunt to be an example of proving me wrong. Or proving me right? Captain Picard [face palm]
@jasonluong3862
@jasonluong3862 9 ай бұрын
What viewers of this episode miss was if it were any other person from the 19th century, he would have freaked out after being transported to the 24th century. People with a forward-thinking and enlighten keen mind like Twain's would adapt quickly. A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is a science fiction story.
@Ginea25
@Ginea25 3 жыл бұрын
This scene is why I hate newer Trek shows. TNG, DS9, VOY... They were about hope. Optimism. They were about the possibility of humanity improving itself. Not about the future being centuries and centuries of the same old shit we're seeing today.
@JustSumGuy01
@JustSumGuy01 3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit "realism" as a front for social agendas
@benlowe1701
@benlowe1701 3 жыл бұрын
SciFi is a reflection of the Time. Want to know how people feel about the present? Ask them to imagine a future. The original trek shows were written at a time where people were optimistic. Where they had hope for the future. Robots were just around the corner. Advances in science couldn't be kept up with. Compare that to the late 2010s onward. Climate change threatens the world, seemingly without causing any alarm from the political elite. Inequality between the poorest and richest classes in the US right now is greater than during the French Revolution. Polarised politics has caused people to reject *basic medicine* in favour of conspiracies. There are higher tensions between the global powers than at any point since the cold war. Demagoguery and nationalism is on the rise in Europe. Out trusted institutions such as our militaries, governments and religious institutions have been found to be guilty of horrific injustices and cover ups. Our militaries committing terrible war crimes in the name of freedom. Our governments escaping what would have been career ending scandals by yelling 'fake news' until it goes away. We live in a very different world. And it's impacted a lot of put media. It's not just Star Trek. It's all Sci-fi. When people imagine the future, they look at the federation and imagine separatist movements. Because years ago it felt like we were pulling together. Now it feels like we are pulling apart. When Star Trek was first written it was on the back of astonishing upward trajectory. Now we are literally faced with the daily reminder that we are ticking down towards oblivion. It's not a new phenomena either. DS9 and Voyager both played with the idea of Star Fleet fragmenting, with Section 31 and others betraying the principles the federation was founded on. Now some people will say they want to disassociate with the real world. They just want a good story. I'm not saying I don't want that. I'm just saying that whether we like it or not, the modern era subconsciously informs what we write about and how we imagine the future. It's not a conscious decision to make Star Trek 'Political'. I think it's simply a result of the Zeitgeist. Just as how following 9/11, war films suddenly took a massive swing to the patriotic and glorious. Following the recent decades attempts to envision yhe future have taken a downward almost despairing turn. It's too widespread to be a conscious decision. It's not like all SciFi writers suddenly became bad overnight. I think it's a way the world has shifted. Star Trek always engages with the current themes. Whether it's cold war. Burgeoning optimism. Genetic engineering. Religious extremism. Political factionalism or rampant AI. When this episode people viewed tech as something to be embraced and the only people who feared it were grouchy old people with ties to the past who couldn't adapt. Now though, technology is something to feared that threatens to overwhelm us. Writers didn't change. People did. I'm not saying you're wrong by the way. I much prefer the optimistic take on the future. I'm just musing on why I think it's changed.
@Xpndable
@Xpndable 3 жыл бұрын
I think the key difference is in how the stories are told now. Star Trek always had political messages, in a post-scarcity world the best qualities of humanity shine through in the Federation and Starfleet. The difference now, is that instead of encountering a backwards civilization, learning how they are bad, and should do better, (see TOS: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, TOS: A Taste Of Armageddon, TNG: Up The Long Ladder, TNG: The Child, TNG: The Outcast to name a few) in DS9, VOY, ENT the seeds were planted that humanity was still up to it's old bad ways with ideas like Section 31. And then in modern Trek, like Picard this is doubled down on into internal morality conflicts. The former type of story telling was hopeful, the latter is quite doomsaying.
@benlowe1701
@benlowe1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xpndable Because in the past, it was assumed that humans would prevail. Now there is a real danger we will lose.
@JustSumGuy01
@JustSumGuy01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xpndable DS9 did dark stories and told it better.
@ZachsMind
@ZachsMind 2 жыл бұрын
What frustrates me is after the death of Gene Roddenberry, those who came after were no longer interested in Roddenberry's vision of a future without conflict and strife. They found it stifling as writers. So over time it's been revealed that this extinction of poverty is only a facade of the Federation: that elsewhere in the universe it still persists. By the time we get to Discovery and Picard and Lower Decks, we learn that in reality little has changed at all in the centuries between now and Roddenberry's ideal future. The writers completely missed the point.
@manticore4952
@manticore4952 2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek passed Enterprise isn't Star Trek as far as I am concerned.
@shaunsteele6926
@shaunsteele6926 2 жыл бұрын
this episode was written after Roddenberry died
@omni42
@omni42 2 жыл бұрын
My understanding even with the newer shows is that within the federation, poverty and want are eliminated. There will always be bigotries, we'll never escape those. But the basic elements of classism and want are eliminated. The cost of that though is a requirement of pursuing it. Most of the instances we see of want or disparity comes down to groups refusing to give up certain bigotries (Picard), or a purported meritocracy (Lower Decks). Still worth giving up cigars...
@Dhips.
@Dhips. 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk and Spock visited worlds where they still had crime, poverty and war. They went to that gangster world where it was always 1920-30's inspired Chicago. I think the gangsters even name dropped Al Copone as their Thesis for their way of life. They met those planets where they have a simulation of war and mass execute the losers of the sim based on how many people the computer said were killed. I do fully concede they dropped the ball by the time we reached the TNG movies onward, but I still love DS9.
@omni42
@omni42 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dhips. Those weren't federation worlds, most of them were pre-warp. The gangster one hadn't been visited in 100 years. The nazi planet was post world war 3 economic collapse turned to fascism. The one with the computer was non federation also last seen 100 years ago. We know humans live in Orion syndicate territory and its a mafia-government with slavery and vice. Those are all non-federation, highlighting alternate paths we could take. Edo is an interesting one, as they had the death penalty for all crime. But it was still a paraside of all needs being met and the federation never knew about that part of their culutre, apparently. Though they weren't federation either, that was still being negotiated.
@PlayNiceFolks
@PlayNiceFolks 5 ай бұрын
The first question to ask for him would be "do you live forever" and when she said "no not at all" I'd say "good, everything is exactly the same"
@jcortese3300
@jcortese3300 10 ай бұрын
I wish she'd told him that she was half-alien herself.
@davidpeabody4645
@davidpeabody4645 Жыл бұрын
Everyone loves Star trek 😅 If only life was that way 😅😊
@PaperbackWizard
@PaperbackWizard 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know, she never says that cigars were eliminated. That's just what everyone assumes.
@therabbits69
@therabbits69 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in DS9 you see people smoking in Sisko's Dad's resturaunt. They probably just replicated them to not produce any nicotine or other harmful chemicals.
@stephenmandelbaum2027
@stephenmandelbaum2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@therabbits69 ugh, whats the point then!?
@sbh_tx
@sbh_tx 3 жыл бұрын
@@therabbits69 you do understand that nicotine is the primary reason cigars rose in the first place?
@ZylonBane
@ZylonBane 2 жыл бұрын
They smoke them for the, uh... synthotine.
@rikers_libido
@rikers_libido 2 жыл бұрын
@@sbh_tx ppl in 24th century keep consuming synthehol without the intoxicating effects of normal alchol, I suppose just for the flavour, it isn't unlikely that they do the same with cigars
@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301
@orgonkothewildlyuntamed6301 3 жыл бұрын
Conversation much more interesting than when he was talking to Fox Mulder................
@LTDANMAN44
@LTDANMAN44 8 ай бұрын
what a memorable character
@cristallaprade5487
@cristallaprade5487 2 жыл бұрын
Typo in title: should be Humanity's not Humanities. It's a possessive noun.
@richboyd8635
@richboyd8635 11 ай бұрын
Th@t was one of my favorite episodes
@grimftl
@grimftl 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain wrote a story about a voyage on a 'starship'.
@ultramaximusreviews
@ultramaximusreviews 3 жыл бұрын
She wouldn't know... when the actress was actually a smoker and the character smokes a cigar in A Fist Full of Datas episode
@stephenpaxman6180
@stephenpaxman6180 2 жыл бұрын
I know what I would be doing with TROI
@techrescuestl
@techrescuestl Жыл бұрын
“… about humanity's future.”
@ziraprod6090
@ziraprod6090 2 жыл бұрын
mark twain would be comfy at any time.
@lordwinton
@lordwinton 5 жыл бұрын
Best look for her
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 3 жыл бұрын
At first glance of the thumbnail, I thought, “What the hell is Troi doing with Colonel Sanders? Shaking him down for his chicken recipe?”
@DeanTheDoctor
@DeanTheDoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Nice JT! 😊🌎💖
@midnightrun5622
@midnightrun5622 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there are some things the replicator can't make. Gold pressed latinum, antimatter and the Colonel's secret recipe.
@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841
@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 2 жыл бұрын
It's finger lickin' gooood!
@Digitalpiracy
@Digitalpiracy 2 жыл бұрын
Troi had the best way to serve breast sorted all by herself & had no need of the Colonel
@Lucretiel
@Lucretiel 2 жыл бұрын
I see that Mark Twain is a DS9 fan
@anamelikemine
@anamelikemine 7 жыл бұрын
Clearly he hasn't seen DS9 yet.
@CaptainGinyu
@CaptainGinyu 7 жыл бұрын
it's easy to be a saint in paradise
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 7 жыл бұрын
It's also easy to commit and get away with warcrimes if your viewer base thinks you are a "badass".
@headmasterhastings4884
@headmasterhastings4884 4 жыл бұрын
Earth being a peaceful paradise doesn't mean war doesn't exist in other parts of the galaxy.
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 4 жыл бұрын
That's Bajor though. Earth really isn't like that at all.
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 4 жыл бұрын
And furthermore, anyone living in those places and being unhappy with it could easily move to Earth, since it's basically free to live there and immigration is probably cheap as dirt and very simple.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike Жыл бұрын
Star Trek "We own nothing, our goal is to better ourself." WEF "Add some bugs and its mein wet dream!"
@SR-iy4gg
@SR-iy4gg Жыл бұрын
humanity's future
@Mnogojazyk
@Mnogojazyk 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder whether Counselor Troi would feel about real chocolate instead of “imitation” chocolate. The blue-skin man Clements and Troi passed was Uncle Fester.
@kumonoameai
@kumonoameai 3 жыл бұрын
Really? That's so cool!
@Archone666
@Archone666 2 жыл бұрын
Her complaint, IIRC, was about how the chocolate the replicator provided was HEALTHY chocolate, that lacked the sheer gluttinous indulgence factor of the true sugar rich confection.
@nelsonsack2694
@nelsonsack2694 2 жыл бұрын
This was the funnest episode.
@oddish4352
@oddish4352 2 жыл бұрын
But its beginning in Part 1 touched on some interesting issues... Data finds his head, and has to explore the notion that he is, in fact, mortal. And Picard has to deal with sending him into harm's way despite this.
@AvangionQ
@AvangionQ 2 жыл бұрын
You can still have your cigar if you really want one. I mean, they have cures for cancer by then anyway. PS, one of my favorite scenes in all of Star Trek.
@graham6132
@graham6132 Ай бұрын
These writers are so F-ing good…..
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108 2 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that this is exactly how Sam Clemens would have reacted to being in the future.
@donsuede1194
@donsuede1194 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for him to say, "sounds boring."
@michellemaher2010
@michellemaher2010 3 жыл бұрын
'Trust no One, Captain Picard...err Mr. Mulder...' Deep Throat :D
@danielbarnes3271
@danielbarnes3271 2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Hardin, what an actor!
@fezmancomments
@fezmancomments Жыл бұрын
I shall add Hand Rolled Cigars to my list of all those things lost in the pursuit of Utopia.
@aqacefan
@aqacefan 9 ай бұрын
No, Mr. Twain… although they may be replicated, you *can* smoke cigars and drink Bourbon in the 24th century.
@CongaLineMonkey
@CongaLineMonkey Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think some ensign was walking by and was like "WTF, was that Mark Twain???"
@jonathanmurphy3141
@jonathanmurphy3141 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain appreciates Troi 🙃
@CoolsBreeze
@CoolsBreeze 2 жыл бұрын
For the longest time as a kid I thought they used René Auberjonois for this Twain character.
@graham6132
@graham6132 Ай бұрын
The actor playing MT is a G!
@Tenorgeiger
@Tenorgeiger 2 жыл бұрын
Humanity’s future
@JohnSmith-zw8vp
@JohnSmith-zw8vp 2 жыл бұрын
I thought characters from holodecks cannot exist outside the holodeck?
@oatlaskennedy1308
@oatlaskennedy1308 Жыл бұрын
That’s the real Mark Twain. He came from the past.
@necessaryvolitio
@necessaryvolitio 2 жыл бұрын
But why does the only therapist on the flagship of an interstellar military dress like Jane Jetson?
@gregorysagegreene
@gregorysagegreene 2 жыл бұрын
'I'm wondering what it would be like to sail on a Fabulous Riverboat and search for the headquarters of a million mile river. Wondering if someone might even make me a character in their story?"
@Cleric775
@Cleric775 5 жыл бұрын
Troi fails to mention the Klingons, Borg, Ferenghi, Cardassians and the Dominion.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 4 жыл бұрын
At this point, although not sure, judging by her outfit, the Borg weren’t a blip yet. The Dominion definitely not known yet at this point. Sure the Ferenghi are money driven annoyances, but that’s all they are. Klingons, save a select a few are allies to the Federation as well.
@alienlife7754
@alienlife7754 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 pretty sure they had already en ountered the Borg by this episode. And tnere were other races that had long since been discovered. Tholians, Romulans, Cardassians, etc. And what about Tasha Yar’s home world? From what I understand it is a Federation world, but it is also a hellhole.
@JeanParisot
@JeanParisot 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I think they are talking about the progress of humanity.
@martonoravecz5857
@martonoravecz5857 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 This episode was after Wolf 359
@animemanXLK
@animemanXLK 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 This was like series 5 or 6. The Borg were pretty well known threat by this point. Note sure about the Dominion though by the time tng ended ds9 was on it's third or fourth season I think.
@thebackyardbear
@thebackyardbear 2 жыл бұрын
She speaks with a forked tongue
@henrytse
@henrytse Жыл бұрын
From the thumbnail, I thought that was Colonel Sanders! 😂
@jasonluong3862
@jasonluong3862 Жыл бұрын
Unless material needs are met easily by inventions like the replicator and clean energy is available in abundance, utopia is just a pipe dream.
@TruthnautBegins
@TruthnautBegins 2 жыл бұрын
This character seemed like something out of a slapstick comedy.
@Mondoblasto0
@Mondoblasto0 6 жыл бұрын
Humanity's.
8 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff
@April-dv2pb
@April-dv2pb 8 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 5 жыл бұрын
She's not even human :)
@TeaIngyer
@TeaIngyer 4 жыл бұрын
Her father was human, her mother was a Betazoid.
@CharlesUrban
@CharlesUrban 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter, and that's the point of the Federation!
@animemanXLK
@animemanXLK 3 жыл бұрын
Well from his point of view she's close enough
@ThailandOutsider
@ThailandOutsider 11 ай бұрын
Thank god it was the Enterprise and Troi he met, if it was DS9 and Kira he'd have gone home with a very different opinion lol
@Chevroletcelebrity
@Chevroletcelebrity 2 жыл бұрын
They should remake this episode on the new star trek
@williamfowler616
@williamfowler616 Жыл бұрын
if greed was made punishable be death then the world may become a better place. to be rich is selfish and cruel to others who may not have your gifts and to use your gift in a cruel manner is unacceptable.
@randybaumery5090
@randybaumery5090 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: humanity's future.
@michaell8722
@michaell8722 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain you forgot the English and the French on your list of “conquerors”..
@JustSumGuy01
@JustSumGuy01 3 жыл бұрын
Or really EVERY single empire from the Romans to the Persians. The Japanese, the Zulu, the ancient hindus, the muslims, etc
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he remembered the Dutch though.
@DoomMomDot
@DoomMomDot 2 жыл бұрын
that they did this, knowing they could be changing history if they changed his mind, always bugged me.
@tonyverhulst9948
@tonyverhulst9948 2 жыл бұрын
I know that TV/movie writers take liberties. But Mark Twain was a young man when he was in San Francisco.
@davidboda1640
@davidboda1640 8 ай бұрын
The second of a 2 part episode. Look she got herself a tan during the time between episodes
@missleeogilvieraygaal
@missleeogilvieraygaal Жыл бұрын
"A Tale of Two Cities" Charles Dickens
@themoviejunky3918
@themoviejunky3918 3 жыл бұрын
Next Gen is everything that junk like Discovery can never be...Star Trek.
@DJSHaKa
@DJSHaKa 10 ай бұрын
1:47 "Young lady i come from a time when men achieve power and wealth by standing on the backs of the poor where prejudice and intolerance are common place and power is an end unto inself"
@wildcardvideoswildcarddom3374
@wildcardvideoswildcarddom3374 2 жыл бұрын
I’d have to say don’t knock it until you try it
@df20001
@df20001 Жыл бұрын
Every one of this channel’s video titles has some sort of grammatical or spelling error in it. Do you guys need someone to help you proofread before you post?
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