Counter Strike 2 is a failure (kind of)

[@teeheehaha746]

To me, the ONLY upgrades Cs2 has compared to GO is the graphics. There are more cheaters, less maps, less content, more bugs, doesn't feel as snappy or consistent as GO. Etc. This game to me is such a step back

[@Kkat-ui9wi]

even the updated graphics are worse because now I can't play with my friends who have potato PCs

[@doliniplanini2260]

love the snappy n consistent CSGO'd vids from pros on LAN silly larper

[@skraxel]

true, the graphics might be "better" but it just looks so cartoony now. The colors pop like it would be some animated movie.

[@Limezanade]

Its my life what ever i wanna do, its my life...

[@k3yeppers]

Smokes? Picking up by buy menu? Training mode?

[@fraizie6815]

Counter Strike isn't even carried by the esports side. It's literally a gambling simulator and money laundry machine

[@xandii4694]

there's a reason they had to delete (hide) CS:GO or they'd have another 1.6 Source community split

[@gaustafr8905]

and because the community split forced them to make CSGO better to get players from 1.6 and Source to play go. Numbers were atrocious at launch. took them 2 years to get people to join.

[@k0mmand]

​@@gaustafr8905 I can make the case that since fewer people are giving the devs feedback concerning CS2, or it's just more of the same, there probably hasn't been much motivation to work on it quite like other titles they got in store (or even TF2 for that matter). But then again, we never know what Valve might do next.

[@gaustafr8905]

There is no case to be made, there is enough feedback on small channels that understand the backside of what we see on screen. Valve has a policy of not comunicating so they can scrap projects without the pressure of deadlines and community. Took them 2 years to make CSGO playable, we still have one year left.

[@callmequaz9052]

@@gaustafr8905 If the state of TF2 is anything to go my friend, it'll be a lot longer than that.

[@karimmoop9560]

CS:GO back to 1.6 and Source i represent.

[@ordinaryoreo8297]

that the cheaters can shoot at a faster firerate is genuinely insane I dont understand how they can let that happen

[@Starchaser38]

I'm just wandering, how is this even possible, along with those wallbang noscopes across the map?? I wonder what kind of hack they'll manage to perform next 🤣

[@px8]

netcode was made by monkeys on typewriters + chatgpt

[@vencelistce9385]

They are beginning to believe

[@mrgunman200]

Uhh did you not know that was a thing in CSGO as well? At the end of the games life it was nerfed, but you could still manipulate the shots, at most 2 bullets in one shot if I recall on certain weapons like aks or slightly faster with autos (didn't work on scouts/awps anymore). And around the beginning when that tick exploit was discovered before any nerfs you could instant plant and defuse bombs, instant reload, instant switch weapons, dump all rounds of any gun in one shot, teleport a certain distance, etc. Common hack in a lot of games btw this isn't something only restricted to cs

[@mrgunman200]

@@Starchaser38 Generally I think what you're talking about is referred to as "magic bullet". It differs between games the way it's achieved but one way is if there's no server sided checking implemented you'd just tell the server I did x damage to y person. In CS2 if I recall they were manipulating the camera location to be under the map then shooting at players to achieve this

[@dudeofnowhere4487]

I saw a clip that Warowl shared during the beta of someone getting banned live and the match being cancelled. I really thought the anticheat would stay consistent. I hit up old friends and we were ready to hop back on CS, because it was the cheaters that drove us away in the first place. Found out soon enough, everything feels slightly off; the only thing that remained like the good old days was the rampant cheating.

[@xMcWeenx]

I had a match cancelled three rounds in last night due to a cheater. Only time I have had that happen though.

[@zxwave]

@@xMcWeenxit’s only if they enable rage hacks. legit cheating doesn’t trigger it

[@daanishgupta]

​@@zxwaveI have had multiple games with rage hacks and some even on my team. I have had no luck in bans though. :')

[@MrBuckfast92]

slightly is an understatement

[@wedividedyou1424]

Well I'm sorry but I have a very sad thing to tell you : I had this happen two times, saying that there was a cheater in MY team, the twist : we are a 5 stack and i know them all, none of them are cheaters. In fact, of all the members of the team, it's the worst who got banned. I mean, not banned, we just all got a 24 hour ban, but still. My point is that this is the most inconsistent thing I've ever seen. It stopped two matches, and it was because of a friend who had no cheats (smurfing included) at all... Edit : We all got the 24 hour ban, but it is specified in the description if you're the reason of the ban or if it's a member of your team. Also even if you complain by submitting a ticket to Valve, they will say that VAC bans are definitive and you can't say anything about it.

[@bootragweino]

I feel an underrated part that not many people talk about was the different factions being removed. I loved being able to play as FBI or Anarchists or just some other faction than Phoenix and SAS. Added depth to the map tbh

[@FemtoTheWolf]

THIS! I was in a discord call with a friend who started in CS2, never playes GO. I saw these and made a comment, he was like: "what? those aren't in CS"... I had to explain to him and show him on the wiki cuz woww.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

true

[@Dipj01]

true, I miss them

[@AxenAider]

All of this was done purposefully by valve so that you're forced to buy their shitty custom player models that they sell... How can you make a NEW game that has much less variety and content than the previous one? It was obviously a marketing decision from the greedy bastards at valve.

[@Sigmundfries]

Absolutely. I loved having specific factions for each map because it added a narrative to said map, like the anarchists holding up inside an office building or local SWAT responding to a bomb threat in Vertigo.

[@filipsomljacan6460]

At this point, CS2 really needs a petition that Nick Bunyun did for CS:GO. I think a lot of content creators should team up and make Valve listen. Get ready for 1 year anniversary patch notes: - Happy birthday CS2 - Added new Music Kit - Fck you and goodbye

[@Azd1r]

Ya theyre pulling a tf2 on us bro.

[@kimurantti3995]

And the music kit is going to be a "deadlock music kit, to support our new game -Valve" to advertise their new game. If this actually happens I will uninstall cs2.

[@gafur8558]

bro we did nickbunyun dirty. He didnt deserve it

[@i.m.3940]

@@gafur8558 Now thats a name I haven't heard in years, what happened to him?

[@cripstopheriii3509]

Lmaoo you think they’re gonna bother adding a music kit? Yeah right it’s just gonna be the FU and a community capsule

[@ZwizuCS]

''go play faceit'' is such a weak argument when the cheaters on faceit have also skyrocketed, with faceit staff deciding to close their eyes to all reports and say nothing is wrong

[@TheSuperappelflap]

to be fair faceit has been doing that since 2016

[@marlon.8051]

cheating is at an all time high right now, and even kernel anticheats arent doing shit

[@darkops1655]

@@marlon.8051wait really?

[@borizovskimilan]

I play faceit and any cheater, troll, afk, etc I have reported since on faceitsupport was banned.

[@hekii1]

I have around 2000 matches played. Met a bunch of cheaters through those games, 80% never got banned. So, you are damn right

[@Vahlsten]

CS2 has become the a Gamling Game with shooter mini game in it, Valve doesn't care one bit as long as it prints them what? 400 million dollars a month in cases and keys and when your primary function is to sell NFTs, the slight bit about some cheating in the mini game shooter is a non-issue...

[@chasebeavers]

This. Why would they turn on an anticheat and ban all the bots that make them millions each month?

[@whitegoose2017]

@@chasebeaversThe bots are part of the business ecosystem they've created. I'm quite sure it wasn't what they intended at first, but they probably were a welcome surprise to Valve when they saw the profits.

[@MCasterAnd]

it has become a cheating simulator with a big gambling site, thats it. Can hardly call it an FPS anymore. We are considering dropping hosting local cs2 tournaments because people simply don't play anymore.

[@ZAWFUL]

What if faceit and ESEA pay them a lot of money to keep the main game mode shit? Idk probably not that's my conspiracy theory

[@Skumtomten1]

How can they earn so much money from that stuff?

[@omskc_gb4728]

Man idc if few people played the other gamemodes like arms race, retakes, flying scoutsman and shit i loved those :((( plus i miss all the other default CT and T factions

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

Arms race is in cs2

[@omskc_gb4728]

@@TestChannelWow-bh7ys oh damn u right forgot about that mb

[@Mrtweeday]

Give us Anticheat :(

[@theshubhramgamer5226]

No reply lemme fix that

[@xSima]

@@theshubhramgamer5226u aint fixing nothing bro

[@odelandsheere]

Well said Kevin.

[@hahayes1122]

its not possible to create a good anti cheat, maybe with a good AI in 5+ years, because of the compute power needed

[@dennis_benjamin]

@@hahayes1122 Completely wrong. It would need only a few lines of code to detect most cheats on the server. AI will do nothing. AI has an inherent error rate which you cannot have in an anticheat. It's the reason why there are false bans currently.

[@WhatsSarcasm_]

The only way Valve would ever fix the game is if the CS community completely boycotted it entirely

[@ironfistgaming8945]

wont happen d/t gamblers

[@kachelstacktus]

I dont even blame the 5 devs that are still working on CS2. Im sure they are doing their best and everything. But the CS2 launch, as you said, was one of the biggest fumbles I've ever seen. The fact that Valve didnt have entire groups of devs to throw at every single bug is wild to me. They should have had multiple groups of anticheat people work on vac, with overwatch ready to go from the start. They should have had an army of investigators and lawyers ready to be let loose against cheat-devs. Hell, maybe even throw in a few irl hitmen for some spice. "We'll focus on the core gameplay first" is a valid path for a two man team developing their passion project. When you have one of the biggest PC games in the world, that just doesnt fly. And thats ignoring the fact that they havent even fixed the core gameplay.

[@krazed0451]

Valve don't care about the cheaters in CS2 for the same reason they didn't care during CSGO. People are addicted to the gambling and that's a huuuuge revenue stream, and the cheaters also happily buy new accounts when there is a very rare ban wave. While people blindly hang on and put money into this garbage nothing will change, either enough players boycott and hit their revenue stream or the clown show continues.

[@vincentprime740]

Oh we do blame the 5 devs trying to do their best because their best doesnt do jack shit and they should sell the game to riot.

[@asonofliberty3662]

@@vincentprime740yes are acting like a child. The devs are just workers. You think they can sell the game if they want? Hell they probably can’t even work on what they want.

[@schmidt4709]

The Launch it self was a disaster

[@MatterLivesWhite]

they are making deadlock with portal and HL rumored to have their 3rd games in production... They dont even have much staff in valve. they dont need any. Their 2 online games cs and dota dont need much updates. if anything too many updates will ruin the winning formula. Should they have delayed cs2? maybe but I am willing to bet they wanted to ship it out in order to go fulltime on their new games. Lets not forget the trash launch CSGO had. Just relax and be patient.

[@gcavrubio]

The reason I play Valorant instead of CS is the absence of good casual modes. It is impossible to have a good casual match in CS. It is a chaotic 10v10 where 1/3 of players are spam bots. And, yes, some of the active players are cheaters...

[@Dapstart]

yeah, i miss scrims :(

[@dribblesg2]

I haven't played CS2. Did they seriously not add a 5v5 casual? Probably my biggest gripe with CSGO. 10 man casual was complete aids, and it played so different from proper competitive as to be useless as a 'casual mode'

[@KotPfosten]

Good. Casuals can play the casual rootkit childrens game operator mess copycat valorant game

[@satriokinasih4107]

Don't forget about the high number of case farming bots, especially ever since Valve disable xp for prime user in non-prime server 3 months ago. Now all the case farming bots has to move to prime server and ruin experience for players that paid $15 for prime. Casual Dust 2 is full of chinese bots with 200+ ping, deathmatch has bots that move around the map, act like a normal players but stop moving when someone is spectating them. There's so many bots in Asia server and some of the empty region like Australia and South Africa.

[@harryz450f4]

South African here, 100% true. I get kicked within 2 mins of joining a Dust 2 DM server. I have sent emails(s) to the cs2 team, but nothing. I sent screenshots, links to profiles the works. No word.

[@white5866]

What "prime server" or "non-prime server"? You could only ever get XP for prime accounts in official servers since the start of CS2. It was like this in CSGO as well.

[@satriokinasih4107]

@@white5866 If you queue with friends that don't have prime you automatically play in "non-prime" server, same with competitive. Back in cs:go there's an option to play unrank match, but this option is gone in cs2. So the only way to play unrank match is if you queue with a friend that does not have prime. At the start of cs2 you can still gain exp in an unrank match, but Valve update this without telling the community, so now there's almost no point in playing with your friend that does not have prime since you won't get any exp anymore.

[@KaraokeNig]

@@satriokinasih4107 ohhh

[@peek912]

The animation on 0:10 at the CS2 logo is already perfect how to describe the issue with this game thank you Jeff ahahaha

[@MitchConnorZ]

the company made it clear that they support Ukraine and i'd say about 20% of their players live in Russia... and at 10 seconds that thing also is perfect showing the situation for Ukraine

[@minkaloo]

what does the animation have to do with Russia or Ukraine?

[@pastaman2028]

The one benefit I’ll give the load out system is being able to equip both the M4A4 and A1s

[@st1ro734]

which is completely uselless, because A4 is a garbage.

[@Oliverii]

@@st1ro734 ong

[@brownbreadinc127]

​Ever heard of preference? ​@@st1ro734

[@KaserinoMakanen]

⁠@@st1ro734I dunno what you’re talking about, both are completely viable, and I see people using it all the time.

[@Vahlsten]

Imagine if you could just buy all the weapons instead of the garbage loadout system...

[@SmokeyDokey-CS2]

CS2 feels like a fan made tribute to CS:GO in an alternate universe and in that universe CS:GO died years ago and the guys who recreated the game forgot how the game was lol

[@SouthLockNet]

Bro decided to make a comeback, put CS2 and Valve on the stove, pull max power, start rapping and pulling straight fax print 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@iceluffy9055]

And still nothing will change sadly cuz he already did that like 8years ago LOL

[@SangiinKherem]

The worst thing is that most if not all games are like this now, there is genuinely nothing better to play and its a shame.

[@borizovskimilan]

It is a shame? It is an opportunity to go outside and do something more productive.

[@SangiinKherem]

​@@borizovskimilan How do I explain this so even you could understand it? 🤔Humans play videogames to have fun, not to be productive.

[@brandonkoh8361]

Hougoungagne: Valve, if you didnt work on premiere, what else did you work on? Deadlock: Allow me to intorduce myself.

[@TheYoutubeUser69]

That's not how Devs work. You just don't magically appear in a different team

[@iitzwolfy]

That's not how dev teams work? But okay 👍

[@looky7486]

@@TheKZbinUser69 yes it does! Specially in valve. As a valve employee you can work at everything you want. You don’t have a fixed position or role on any title. You can theoretically work on Monday to Wednesday on cs2 and Thursday on tf2(this never happens) and Friday on deadlock. And nobody in valve is questioning what you are doing

[@denif609]

@@TheKZbinUser69 lol bro, you clearly don't know how Valve works. They don't work with normal company logic

[@RAEJDER]

@@looky7486 Pretty sure ive heard that they went away from that model actually. But who knows.

[@murk510]

if they never shut down the CSGO servers, CS2 would never see any playtime.

[@pyrojack8230]

As a TF2 player of 11+ years, it unsettles me deeply when TF2 got more attention this summer from Valve than CS. We are living in the weirdest timeline RN.

[@Brown95P]

As a TF2 player of 14 years, I don't even care if it seems weird; it's about damn time it got the treatment it actually deserved.

[@dario-zg1jy]

Did tf2 get an actual update or just the standard cosmetics/ localisations/ maps update? Because people have said things like that so many times over the past few years, I can't help but take this comment with a few pinches of salt.

[@jubcow]

​@@dario-zg1jythey did the summer content + resolved rampant bots that had been ruining quickplay

[@Blorp_]

@@Brown95Pyou need tf3 bro, updates are too little too late

[@Brown95P]

@@dario-zg1jy Well all the rampant hacking bots and their owners got banned for one, and the gas passer is actually usable outside of mann vs machine now. All things considered, I'll take it for a comeback update.

[@mrle0719]

CS went from a great game to a gambling platform pretending to be a game

[@user-xg5jt3vs4q]

Me personally, I never think it was good, just highly addicting

[@Naraku-no-Hana-WE]

@@user-xg5jt3vs4q It was good before csgo. OG cs was so much fun back in the day and source despite its issues remained fun for a long time before csgo drew a large portion of the playerbase away and the community servers for source stagnated heavily.

[@OperatorMax1993]

It went from a slow paced shooter with a rainbow six style setting (terrorists and counter terrorists), to a e sports shooter with skin gambling

[@xandii4694]

i remember telling my friends when source 2 was announced that it will take 2 years of bug fixes and another year for content parity with GO so according to my schedule we are still on time :(

[@JFriisN]

It just feels like such a wasted opportunity. CS2 was a clean slate to learn from and improve on all the mistakes that held GO back from greatness. Instead it became just more of the same. The most frustrating part to me is the lack of communication by Valve. Sitting there in silence while completely ignoring the feedback from the community, who genuinly want to improve the experience.

[@hellothisisme2010]

when deadlock and hl3 is on the horizon, and tf2 up in arms, yeah cs2 is being really fucked right now, but what can the measly 5 devs do about it unless we do something like #fixtf2 (which is a thousand times harder given cs have a million concurrent players at any moment), yeah no we are not getting updates

[@shyrtexx4879]

There is something about shooting which feels so god damn off. I can't exactly pinpoint what it is, but it lacks the "crispiness" of CSGO in a way. One taps feel much less satisfying, spraying is literally RNG 50% of the time, and the whole game has basically become +W SMG simulator

[@Bunerd]

But if you managed a kill is more satisfying than csgo. But shooting in general is still worse than csgo

[@lighty6401]

@@Bunerd No the kills aren't as satisfying as CSGO, let alone feel better. CSGO'S gun sounds were crisp and felt natural. A headshot felt immensely good in CSGO. In CS2, it's more random.

[@lighty6401]

@@shyrtexx4879 True. The hitreg is inconsistent and spraying feels weird. The game has become more R&G. I thought I lost my skills as I hadn't played for 3 months. But I started CSGO legacy and my shots hit accurately. It's a CS2 issue.

[@Tsukie82]

Isn't it because CSGO was fully client sided registering shots and CS2 is client>server>client communication. So it takes longer to register & confirm a shot, it registers a few miliseconds after you have already shot. Which always feels off. I think they made it this way to have high-ping players play 'more fair' but it has a big disadvantages for low-ping players because of this newly presented lag.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

spraying has always been RNG

[@FemtoTheWolf]

I actually agree here that the loadout system was actually bad. Because, having the decision of "Will I pick m4a4 vs m4a1-s?", or "CZ75 vs FiveSeven or Tec9" were kind of little strategical choices you had to make. I'm not sure how to explain it, but Hougne understands and maybe more people do too. Oh, also wheel buy menu was still better!

[@berran3459]

Refunds are fantastic tho. But then again they could just add that to the old wheel

[@FemtoTheWolf]

@@berran3459 Agreed. For some reason, I actually don't like refunds a little, but I know they're harmless, and actually good for players so I don't care about it.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

For me it doesnt make any difference, I dont see the point of having both M4s in your inventory. Whatever the current balance patch is, one is always better than the other. A1-S with 25 bullets a few years ago was better than A4. Then it got nerfed back to 20 bullets, got lower fire rate and more damage dropoff, so now the A4 is better. The only advantage is being able to spam smokes without tracers. That doesnt weigh up to having less bullets, lower fire rate and less damage at range. I currently have the Scout, M4, AUG, AWP and Autosniper equipped in the rifle slots. Having the auto to buy if I have huge bank is more beneficial to winning games than having the A1-S equipped. Yes, its slightly cheaper, but if you cant afford the A4, just buy an MP9 and play a closer range spot instead. Also, dont equip the FAMAS. It has lower fire rate, lower accuracy and lower DPS than the MP9. Its literally useless. And if you are thinking about using the burst fire. Just buy a Scout instead.

[@FemtoTheWolf]

@@TheSuperappelflap I agree with the fact that the "m4a4 VS m4a1-s" battle is always one-sided. It used to be that the m4a1-s had 30 bullets too. They were both fairly balanced, so the choice of "which one do I choose" actually existed. Now, I do have both m4s in my buy menu but only so I can buy a teammate what he prefers. I almost always pick m4a4. Also, the famas is really not that bad, it's especially useful for maps like dust 2. But, I can see what you mean, because yes, the mp9 is almost always better, unless it's a long range.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@FemtoTheWolf The mp9 has higher first bullet accuracy and an easier spray pattern with less bullet spread. Theres literally no upside to the famas at the moment. It needs to be buffed. And the mp9 has to be nerfed. I dont remember the a1-s ever having 30 bullets, must have been before I started playing. Being able to drop teammates who cant spray with the M4 is a reason to equip it, I guess.

[@PLOJ]

my biggest issue with cs2 is honestly all performance related, new laggy networking, fps the feels so low and choppy almost and weird feeling inputs.

[@peetea376]

Interesting... i play on the same PC that i played cs:go, built the PC in 2016 and CS2 runs much smoother on it than CS:GO ever did

[@ThePC007]

The fact it's not really playable on the Steam Deck would be hilarious, if it weren't so sad.

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

@@ThePC007why would you ever play it on steam deck

[@ThePC007]

@@TestChannelWow-bh7ys It’s the most powerful PC I own. Of course I connected it to a 27 inch monitor with keyboard and mouse, lol.

[@tenderandmoist5011]

Oh my god so it's not just me feeling random input lag

[@rodellcabia875]

Im 25 now and ive been watching jeff since i was 17 and in all seriousness throughout the years posture check is really important than anything else 👍

[@bartenhardbdfnfn]

its like the devs are not working on new content at all

[@JinqsYT]

they are

[@tehjamerz]

The who?

[@MusicJunkie37]

They should fix the gameplay first before caring about new content

[@ryann9365]

because they aren’t lol

[@alexandreiss0agr276]

they are working on new content ... .... in a new game.

[@CobusGreyling]

Subtick ruined any consistency in CS. There used to be a "global" (server) hit-authority. They turned every client into its own authority which makes no sense for a multiplayer game. A dude with 150 ping will shoot you around corners all day, a problem that never existed in CS:GO

[@KNDCHV]

Yeah I admit it: I was a Valve believer. And when CS 2 launched in its terrible undercooked state I was like: "Um, guys chill - Valve just needs the whole community on it, since the BETA was empty, I am sure they will quickly fix the game - after all they had 11 years of CS:GO experience, right? RIGHT?" . Besides the 3 meaningful big updates and countless fixes, I started losing hope... I honestly feel indifferent about the game and I play it less and less. I miss the ability to buy every single gun, I miss the responsiveness and I miss the fact that the Trust Factor actually worked in CS:GO - towards the final days I barely had cheaters in my lobbies. Probably for 3-4 months I haven't encountered a cheater. A company worth 8 BILLION can't (or doesn't want) to tackle the issues that have haunted the game for years...

[@whitegoose2017]

The only time Trust Factor actually works for someone with a positive Trust Factor score is when they are playing Solo Queue. When you queue with someone who gets regularly reported because he's a good player his Trust Factor score will be used in matchmaking. And of course since Trust Factor is entirely dependent on players reporting suspicious behavior, e.g. another player 'suspecting' you of cheating, then it's all subjective. It isn't proof like an ANTICHEAT detecting something intrusive. Trust Factor was never going to work, because it was just an ordinary rating system where you just give a thumps up to a guy by not reporting a player and a thumps down to a player you suspect of wrongdoing. The more thumps downs you get the lower your trust factor.

[@KNDCHV]

@@whitegoose2017 Well I like your argument and you are providing good points, but can you actually give me the source of this information you are spilling? I am asking, because as far as I know Trust Factor itself was designed to match you with similar accounts and it didn't depend only on reports. In fact Valve themselves said (not that anyone believes them at this point) that Trust Factor is based around multiple variables like: How old is your account, how many games you have, how many hours you have in CS:GO and other games and even something like achievements and badges. And it's true to some degree, because as I said in my previous comment, I was only matched with accounts similar to mine. Very decorated accounts even though it's pretty easy to buy such accounts, I haven't encountered cheaters and it was obvious the owners invested heavily into the game. I was matched with people who had Dragon Lores and other expensive items. Ofc, I hope I am not coping, but Trust Factor did work at least for me and I don't really think it worked (at least before) around reports and offenses. As I said: I am super curious to see the source of your information, because at this point might as well learn something while waiting for the game to actually be good.

[@BicBoi1984]

It's a new engine bro. They're literally training programmers to use it properly. Feel free to assist them if you know better.

[@helltanker19]

@@BicBoi1984 based on what source?

[@jorobachkadosta]

@@BicBoi1984 wdym new engine? Source2 has released in 2015? It's VALVE's own engine, created for them, by them, and they aren't expected, since 2015, to have people ready to use it and code on it?

[@awppenheimer]

I'm really upset that they got rid of most of the fun gamemodes from CSGO like retakes

[@GustavSchack]

They should've made CS2 a separate game, or at least wait to update it until it was actually a finished product

[@vcr_official]

Well, remember 1.6 vs. Source/Condition Zero and even Left 4 Dead 1 vs. Left 4 Dead 2?

[@GustavSchack]

@@vcr_official "or at least wait to update it until it was actually a finished product"

[@vcr_official]

@@GustavSchack It would still cause some divide in the community on which CS game is or looks better.

[@GustavSchack]

@@vcr_official not if they hadn't released it until it was ready. If you think CS2 is better than GO, you're cooked

[@i.m.3940]

THANK YOU, Jeff! Its absolutely infuriating how seemingly no other content creator seems care about all of these problems you listed , problems which any normal player with more than 200 hours in the game is aware of. Watching them all just continuously ignore the elephant in the room all for the sake of not hurting their bottom line drives me insane. I hate this toxic forced positivity with a passion.

[@illumistration]

As someone who mostly hung out in surf and arms race, CS2 is the worst thing to ever happen to CS.

[@imgladnotu9527]

cs and so many others like it brought on the death of casual modes, because people now care about imaginary numbers and pngs, css surf is still alive though, cant say the same about the other more normal servers as the server browser is just filled with spam servers that redirect you to one russian/romanian/some other eu server that nets you 250+ ping disguised as your lowest native because they use proxy servers.

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

arms race is in cs2

[@illumistration]

@@TestChannelWow-bh7ys with 2 maps and a godawful community map..

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

@@illumistration There were only like 2 more maps ins csgo lake and house one right? just wait for then to be remastered.

[@gteco3018]

yea i use to love playing ttt (trouble in terrorist town) now i can't find a single server on cs2.

[@AndreasIndustriePro]

i remember back in the day letting out my frustration about hackers in the forum only to get told to "gid gud" and being compared to a toddler shitting himself everytime i started the game a message told me players i have reported were banned good ol days

[@Seb1n_Basto]

wish i had the power and influence to just start a collective boycott against CS and opening skin cases so that valve does something

[@lzongx6484]

unless you had something like ishowspeed’s viewerbase and influence, you’d barely make a dent on the money cs makes. sucks but it is what it is. So long as cases and keys make Valve an exorbitant amount of money they wont have any incentive to change stuff.

[@anyau]

that wont change anything. They will still make billions from simple game sales.

[@KotPfosten]

Yes and if it was war and no one went we'd have world peace. How naive are the ppl here? I need a break, enough ret4rdation for today

[@iSohaibKhan]

It's a fact, Valve don't deserve CS Franchise

[@BrokeSill]

Moral of the story: go play something else

[@BioFake1]

So what should I play to find the same seek and destroy mode with the good feel CS:GO had at the end ? Don't say Valorant or R6 Siege, I tried both they're nothing like CS:GO was.

[@hydros1ty]

I moved to fucking Rust and its been more fun than cs

[@BioFake1]

@@hydros1ty Glad for you. No way I put a foot closer than 100Km from this game.

[@hydros1ty]

@@BioFake1 if you wanna find a decent ish defusal gamemode, I’d try spectre divide

[@BioFake1]

@@hydros1ty It seems to have the same problems as Valorant. Adding to the ugly, way too bright cell shading.

[@revan22]

the worse aspect for me is the workshop. We lost so many great maps, my thoughts go to insertion 1 and 2 that still can't work because of a valve's side problem, and inferno sandbox.

[@sorlag110]

Insertion 2 was so good Hostage mode only has Italy and Office right now :(

[@OhhhPez]

My real issue with CS2 being built from the groud up is how they forgot about some anti-cheat things they added to CSGO like nospread, causing all these people to be able to bhop around and be 100% accurate with cheats when they fixed that in CSGO around 2015/16...

[@GodbornNoven]

They didn't forget about it. It was intentionally removed because it was utterly useless.

[@slendydie1267]

Its a full on failure. The only reason it's not dead is because people are just addicted to CS. If they had CS:GO around CS2 would see a significantly lower amount of player. It has 0 redeeming qualities, the gimmick of smokes washed away and we are left with slop. They are more consistent which is nice but It doesnt make up for all the other downsides of the game. Also the game may be 10 years newer yet you'd never guess that by the graphics(I dont think its a bad thing but its not good either). Not choosing the map is the single worst thing I hated in Valorant and there it is introduced to CS. When you play the normla comp with a chosen map you get matched with the most autistic teammates so there is no point in playing. I play 1 day out of the month where I try to level up but get pissed off and just take a ban. It's probably THE worst competitive multiplayer game right now. Valorant is better and im sad to say this.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

I really dont get why they introduced this new premier mode either where you cant play the map you want. My PC is kind of old and my fps goes down from 200+ to about 80 on any map with water on it. So I cant play Overpass, Ancient, Anubis, etc. The only maps I can play are D2, Mirage, Nuke, Vertigo and Inferno. I dont like Vertigo or Inferno. So that means I cant play Premier. Because I would have to leave more than half the games I get put in just to get a map I like and get good enough fps on to be able to play the game. If they had just made the ranked mode the main ranked mode and gave you a seperate rank for every map, that would have been perfect. In the normal ranked mode I get maybe two out of ten games that are decent, with normal teammates. seven out of ten both teams have cheaters, and one out of ten my team is so bad that they manage to lose even if I get 40+ kills in 24 rounds.

[@hellothisisme2010]

@@TheSuperappelflap hi, competitive exists, it's seperate rank for each map, literally you dont even need premier if your pc sucks like this

[@nelsonfernandes5208]

Jeff, you're absolutely spot on here. The anti-cheat system is a complete joke. I had the same experience yesterday-almost every match in Premiere had at least one cheater. In one game, a cheater on my own team even blocked us from kicking them out. We ended up leaving the game and got penalized for it. I’ve decided I won’t be playing CS:GO 2 again. And you’re right about FACEIT-why should I have to switch platforms just to play CS:GO 2 with fewer cheaters? I just want the game to work properly. Thanks for being real about it ❤

[@sskuk1095]

I'm saying it here and now: Without collective action against Valve, this thing will continue to move forward at a snails pace!!!

[@offroadrecords]

I just fired up Counter Strike for the first time in years, stopped already due to excessive hacking. Literally every match. Already moving on, looking for a different game

[@vilkasiwnl]

2 videos in 2 days, my man is back on the grind :D

[@noggstaj]

Game is shit, matchmaking is shit, anticheat is shit. I don't know how they fucked up this bad. I still play with my friends a few games every weekend, but it isn't nearly as fun as it used to be. Getting CSGO'ed wasn't fun, but getting CS2'ed is equally bad, and it happens multiple times per game for me.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

I keep hearing people about this, but I dont have any issue "getting CS2d". The hit detection is much more consistent than in csgo thanks to subtick. I can actually flick over targets and click them and the bullet will go where I clicked instead of at some random point in between where I moved my mouse on that tick. I also have less problems with enemies teleporting around corners or sliding out tilted 30 degrees with bugged animations, which happened to me sometimes in csgo. The thing is I live right next to an international internet exchange and have fiber so I have a very stable 8 ping to servers in western europe. I think the issues with subtick happen when you have higher and more variable ping. Which is probably most of the playerbase. So Im not making excuses for Valve here. Just saying its not completely their fault.

[@Grek]

@@TheSuperappelflapfor those who aren’t as lucky as having your location, they also have to deal with the time it takes for a player to be registered as dead to the player, which is longer than CS:GO, on top of the ping issues. They also made bullet holes unbelievably hard to see, making you more reliant on pure memorization of the spray. That probably doesn’t sound rough, but majority of players don’t memorize every bullet of the spray, in certain maps, the contrast is so bad you can’t even see the bullet marks. The maps are just worse from a competitive standpoint, everything is so washed out. I honestly don’t care that much about any of that personally because I barely play CS anymore, but CS:GO of all games, deserved a better remaster, because that’s all CS2 is. They gave us a repackaged CS:GO with more bugs than it previously had.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@Grek I already had those issues with delayed killfeed and bullet impacts not being visible in CSGO. I had to learn to not look at the killfeed for confirmation or look for bullets to guide the spray when I started playing this game in 2016. The issues with brightness can be fixed easily by the way, just increase the monitorgamma to 3 in the console and it will look a lot better. The default 2.2 gamma that csgo had is way too bright for cs2.

[@timothychartier]

I'm noticing significant differences in the quality of European servers and NA servers and can only conclude that because we have a much smaller audience in NA, valve is running crap servers for us which is why the game feels so much worse here.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@timothychartier the audience in western europe nowadays isnt big either.

[@Jane-qh2yd]

Here is the problem. Valve is an incredibly small private company, and for some reason, they rarely ever expand their team unless they pull in developers for a new project. While most companies can have upwards of 400 devs working on a game, Valve doesn't even have that many employees at all. That means that between steam, deadlock, the new half life game being worked on and dota 2, there ends up being very few devs to work on CS2 I still have absolutely no idea why Valve chooses to be this closed off and inefficient, but my guess is that they do it to maintain a tighter control of their company and established hierarchy. Even if we plead for fixes, nothing will change until their structure does.

[@zendakk]

At least they don't have a Cosby Room /s

[@darkops1655]

Why should we care about how a company works internally? Fix the damn game. They are full of money. And if they got money, they can have everything, it’s their choice to have little devs.

[@Jane-qh2yd]

@@KotPfosten Neither does valve, because that's EXACTLY how they treat their games too. Stop dick riding a piece of garbage company like valve

[@Jane-qh2yd]

@@darkops1655 Because how a company works internally affects their products

[@imgladnotu9527]

then again, you look at more traditional companies and how they've been doing of late.....

[@hamzazaidan620]

subtick SUCKS,

[@ShreN_]

^this

[@doliniplanini2260]

subtick timestamps>urs and pro's feeling of "crispiness and snapiness" who play on lan n not with ping like everyone else

[@crickcrackcricketycrack5501]

​@@doliniplanini2260most people complaining aren't pro players. People who prefer playing on at least a consistent 64 tick server

[@doliniplanini2260]

​@@crickcrackcricketycrack5501 conditioned larpers all the same subtick is empirically proven to be better cope Havent seen a CS2'd clip so far from LAN tournaments, we got lots of CSGO'd clips from em though

[@anodyneliniment2326]

​@@doliniplanini2260Getting csgo'd on lan? Are you brain-dead? Lan csgo was always played at 128 tick and ever since the starladder major i don't remember any such clips on lan

[@rulebreaker666]

faceitting is full of cheaters too btw

[@Naraku-no-Hana-WE]

yup it's a documented problem as well.

[@nicholasstensson9699]

My least favourite thing about CS2 is the loadout system. What I loved about GO over other FPS games is that there was no loadout nonsense and every player had access to every single weapon and it came down which team used the weapons better. Now however I feel like I can never try different tactics and I’m forced to always have the meta guns equipped because my teammates will need drops or I’ll just be at a disadvantage in general. HEY VALVE! If I wanted to play valorant…I’d go play valorant. Stop trying to make CS into valorant

[@govinlock8568]

If they have CSGO buy menu but can bring both M4A4 and M4A1-S, it would be great.

[@nicholasstensson9699]

@@govinlock8568 the old but menu was perfect. Just add slots for the m4A1, R8 etc. I had the muscle memory down, I could buy anything in seconds. This new box menu im still not used to

[@govinlock8568]

@@nicholasstensson9699 indeed

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

agreed, the loadout system really kills CS2 for me too, it encourages using meta and discourages creative varied playstyle, one of the many things i love to do in CS is to just run and gun with a shotgun and a dual beretta, now? yeah i can do that, but nobody else would be doing that and i will be put in a huge disadvantage because i choose NOT to play meta

[@hellothisisme2010]

@@TheCapitalWanderer no one's forcing you to play the meta, if you can play with something off-meta just put it in your loadout, most of the time you only need to drop aks/m4s for your team, other times who's gonna stop you from r8 the entire enemy team besides, if you actually played csgo competitively there's only like 6-7 guns being used the entire game, ak/m4, famas/galil, awp, deagle, starting pistol, maybe a mp9 or xm if you're feeling lucky. the others, your choice. not like they're gonna stop you running with 2 pistols

[@kwetzal8556]

Everytime I play there are no cheaters, but then again I only play a match a week

[@marcuselias4412]

The limited buy menu was such a stupid idea, that alone made me question their development strategy. (which is to say, they don't have one)

[@HjbProductions]

I quit playing CS:GO few years ago. I got tired of all the cheaters and having to play on 3rd parties websites like Faceit which had its own problem at the time with all the boosters queueing with fresh accounts who were cheating as well.. Decided to come back, not much seems different besides UI, bad map pool, and it is missing this snappyish feeling csgo had. I will say though I do enjoy the nade reworks. So many more teammates are using utility.

[@SaintGGod]

I hate modern Valve. They're only taken seriously because of what they accomplished.... 20+ years ago.

[@Skumtomten1]

So pretty much like every other AAA western dev these days right? Blizzard, Bioware, Bethesda, Valve, EA/Dice. The list goes on. All of them are a shadow of their former self in terms of quality, but they do earn the money anyway

[@KotPfosten]

Half life alyx? Steam deck? Singularly saving linux gaming with proton?

[@SaintGGod]

@@KotPfosten Why the living fuck would I care about Steam Deck and Linux

[@KotPfosten]

@@SaintGGod Refer back to your original post for context, nitwit.

[@SyRose901]

It's CS:GO all over again. It TANKED at launch, pretty much everybody went and played 1.6 and Source. Maybe another petition will do. The weirdest thing is the latency. If you go to a map in Practice or with the map command, it's immediately JUST AS CRISP AS CS:GO. Maybe trying to log every input using subtick is the issue. I'm thinking that it should only record shooting and throwing grenades, not the movement of everyone. That might also explain the issue with movement. It's like a tick or two late. On 64 tick, that's disastrous. I am honestly surprised that VAC can't ban the full-on rapid-firing spinbots, like the rapid firing should get someone immediately banned, right? Nah, apparently. Also, the cheating seems to depend on rank and region. At lower ranks, where I am, I've matched with cheaters less than 1% of the time. I'm from Mongolia, I connect to servers in Hong Kong and Japan. Lower ranks run into another issue, however; since Premier is brand new, people with 100 hours and people with 2000 hours all can get placed into the same rank, resulting in unintentional smurfing. The guys with 100 hours do not stand a chance.

[@Downy1230]

i ask for such command, what did you put into the practice map, I have to document this and see how bad it really is

[@SyRose901]

@@Downy1230 Nothing, it's a patch from 12 days ago. Just go to any map in Practice and shoot a bot. You'll see. No console commands required. What I said in the original comment is that you can go to a practice map by typing "map ".

[@tyleron5459]

In Southeast Asia server you have the blatant cheaters at ranks 15k and above, so every manner of players ranging from legit cheaters, casual rankeds, Faceit lvl 10's, etc are all dumped into ranks 10k to 15k where every match is a coin toss from either getting dumped by sweats or trashing casuals. It's a literal hellhole down here for my friend group who lies on the middle spectrum of just being good enough against normal casuals, but unwilling to waste time learning multiple lineups, team comms, or grind attrition just to beat faceit lvl 10 5 man teams. It sucks here

[@speedymemes8127]

Yeah lower elo rn and cheaters are not an issue for me as far as I can tell.

[@OpressivePeach]

basically what happened with BF2042 happened with CS long before 2042 even released, they saw the money bags and said fuck the game.

[@Inheretance]

Love the video! I have nearly 15k hours in CS, hit top 1k world and top 100 NA and have finally given up on it. My stance boils down to "If Valve doesn't care about this game then I won't either".

[@matzk0840]

the real cs:go killer :(

[@thatplayernyl]

I was so hyped for the CS2 release and it truly ended up being the biggest fumble in gaming history. The worst part is that they had so much time to at least announce changes that are coming, but they never did. This makes it seem like they truly aren't doing anything, and that the game will stay in such a dry state indefinitely

[@ToodelsALX]

Good Things in cs2 - smokes - visibility - you can use both m4's - refund in buy menu - Visual Feedback when you kill someone - more QUOL features Did I forgot something?

[@sskuk1095]

Arguably the Audio

[@serek_heterogenizowany]

Would argue about visibility. Csgo was clean.

[@ToodelsALX]

​@@serek_heterogenizowany Nah. There were Situations where you couldn't see the enemy, because of to dark corners for example. Or the Playermodel blended into the map (on overpass for example).

[@Ajee02]

​@@serek_heterogenizowanyCS2 is a lot cleaner than GO, mainly the lighting and wheater are consistent through maps and the clutter is all on the ground and out of the way now.

[@berran3459]

I would argue against the visual feedback when killing someone. I know when my bullets are hitting i dont need a big uncustomizable flashing hud telling me when im doing something right. I also dont need to be reminded what team im on etc.

[@SnipeGhost]

i like how people think “just play faceit” justifies the game being shit lmao

[@themastermatt734]

Subtick was the worst decision ever

[@tehjamerz]

When gaben finds out what the lady intern did to CS he's gonna laugh so hard

[@maxcchiru]

@@tehjamerz Ah yes, not even that far down and we've got the gamer sexism. That joke would've been exactly the same without the "lady" part, but you just had to add that because "HURR DURR women ☕ and video games 🤣🤣 amirite???"

[@tehjamerz]

@@maxcchiru watch the cs2 trailer, not my fault

[@WayStedYou]

@@tehjamerz yes the woman they hired for voice over is totally a game developer

[@sulle9818]

I feel like subtick would be so so good combined with 128 but yeah atm subtick is just so awful

[@kelownatechkid]

I feel completely betrayed as a csgo player. Valve should not simply replace a game with another and shut down all the servers, it is crazy.

[@stavik96]

Mirage, cache, wingman lake (and assault, rip the only fun hostage map) were my go-to maps, nuke is alright but mostly because it's the favourite map of my duo partner. Half of those are just GONE, a year has passed and they're still GONE, it's like they just one day decided to delete half of CS:GO, give it a new name(which is pretty much it) and tell me it is in fact an upgrade. Then there's the cheaters, now idk if the game brought along these issues or just bad timing but HOLY SHIT how many cheaters we got in the game, me and my friend went from playing thousands of hours and rarely see blatant cheaters, sometimes suspicious to my friend sending me pics of him playing with 9 fucking blatant hackers spinning and walling, even better, you can't just +left in console to afk for the rest of that match either because that's been removed. Damage stats from console is gone, which would normally be fine in games, except it is rough if you say someone is low because you see them bleeding all over the wall only to then actually be at 90 health because those hits were client-side only, oops sorry for bad info, guess he wasn't glockable after all. Not sure if I will ever truly return to the game, even if they eventually do bring back the stuff needed to bring it up to par with the predecessor, however many years it'll take them... If I do I guess I can enjoy being the rank I was 2000 hours ago, oh well could be worse, my friend got a rank lower than he's ever been before.

[@hellothisisme2010]

valve really needed more time in the oven with this one. and yet, some people keeps fucking pressuring valve to release cs2 early. like fucking hell, this what you get when you rush a dev for releasing a game way too early. and dont get me started on how fucking petty the cheaters are, like if you watched what happened in tf2 you'd understand not saying valve didnt fucked up, but its not like the community didnt fuck up either

[@stavik96]

@@hellothisisme2010 the community didn't tell them to take CS:GO out behind the shed and downright execute a healthy game though.

[@epicgamer785]

@@hellothisisme2010 valves whole thing is that they don't communicate with the community so they can do whatever they want without people crying about it so if they let us pressure them into releasing the game early its their fault not ours

[@hellothisisme2010]

@@stavik96 honestly i agree, the excuse that they shut down csgo to focus the community on cs2 for more feedback is rather old tbh

[@HerbaceousM8]

the loadout system COULD be useful if the devs couldnt be bothered to shuffle Mid tier gun's balance around every 3 months or so to at least see new guns being meta on force buys

[@pyroV12]

This guy will lose all loses when he sees Deadlock development lmao

[@bruhmomentmaker4979]

We just regressed all the way back to 2013

[@tnc4700]

the saying "you can't polish a turd" fits soooo well for this company/game

[@CR0WYT]

"Valve, what else have you been working on?" Deadlock

[@aamir_xo]

i will never forgive valve for deleting the best game ever made

[@captain1432]

Well, I play Premier for like two months now (FaceIt before that, since Premier was unplayable at the end of last year) at ~20k elo and encounter a blatand cheater only once every 50 matches or so, maybe even less. We usually queue 5-stack, though. It's honestly not that bad - at least from my perspective. I'm actually quite satisfied with CS2. After I quit CSGO in 2020, the release of CS2 brought me back and so far I'm having a blast. There are obviously issues with the game still, but it has gone a long way since launch already and I like the spot it's in.

[@ApolloGC]

What's even funnier about the cheating problem is that Valve have shown that they have the ability to remove players from the game for using "programs" they don't like such as Snap Tap, but can't do that for cheats? funny.

[@donnythedealer9761]

The worst part is one of my friends is saying "CSGO was out for 10 years, ofc there will be problems". Like no, CSGO fixed loads of its problems, so they shouldnt even really be issues in CS2, and if they are, they should be fixable within a year easily. And also - just release a game that functions properly. Why are jumpthrow smokes now fucked? All my lineups are fucked because Valve wanted it to be consistent on different maps. Who fucking careS??????? If it was WORKING, it was WORKING. No need to change that. MAybe address the actual fucking problems.

[@jpkral]

"Do you even realize how crazy it is that your regular playerbase only sticks around thanks to a lifeline thrown by another company because of how bad you are at allowing your own service to get". This is the line that I constantly think about and is significantly underrated. It also amazes me how many people still dick ride Valve for the state of the game.

[@thermal_throttlingmerc2810]

I have played many games and still go back to cs because how perfect the game is. Sometimes i think the game should be under some other company because valve seriously doesn't care about cs.

[@MickiSel]

There’s a lot of fair criticism that CS2 deserves. And then there’s a lot of bullshit, like «the only thing that’s good about CS2 is graphics» and «there’s a cheater in every game». Calling out bullshit comments like this is not dickriding. If anything, a lot of people who don’t even play the game are dickriding each other on the hate train. There are so many positives, and so many negatives about this new game. The discussion about CS2 is not balanced in the slightest. Genuinly makes me wonder if half the comments are Valorant NPCs pouring gas on the fire. Just please stop saying «bring back CS:GO» because your ten year old PC can’t run a game launched in 2023 on very high settings at 300+ fps.

[@KaraokeNig]

@@MickiSel My brother

[@hellothisisme2010]

@@MickiSel its either the loud minority dickriding valve or the loud minority dickriding valorant/hating valve. most just plays the game or not play it like seriously, just dont play it and move on - no one is forcing you to do this

[@imgladnotu9527]

​​@@MickiSelto the last point, for a solid while you couldnt even pull off 30 fps minimum on overpass b site on lowest settings having a render scale less than 65% (i forgot what the lowest value was, not sure if it was 50 or 45 lowest), on a pc with a ryzen 5 6500g, and a 1030, meanwhile ye olde source 1 csgo ran laps around it even with a cheat injected, significantly altering the visual look of the game with world modulation, antialiased glowing chams, gaussian blur glow outline, and removed fog, and you can still expect the game to run 4x or even in some cases 12x faster rendering the same site in the same spot, this has changed only up until i recently checked hvh for cs2. :\ im gonna be real though for a second, i aint gonna lie if people didnt just keep egging on valve to release counterstrike but its source 2, in an alternate world maybe it would have been a more polished product, who knows :^)

[@turrainho9753]

"They are playing with super powers for fuck sake " has me laughing my ass off😂

[@rehanmirzaa]

Valorant isnt an option either. Many of us are millennials and grew up playing 1.6 so it's like CS runs in our blood but due to the exact reasons mentioned in the video many of us have stopped playing CS or at least as long as Valve does something meaningful.

[@Goorlel]

I like the game but I refuse to have a rootkit on my pc to play valorant

[@juljasmah]

i wish cs source or 1.6 were more populated, and not just populated by sweats who have billions of hours

[@Naraku-no-Hana-WE]

@@juljasmah yeah sadly csgo poisoned the rest of cs slowly, the servers for the older cs games lost too many players and stagnated heavily. Most of the good servers are long gone and the current servers are afraid to ban anyone out of fear of losing the remaining playerbase.

[@tenderandmoist5011]

​@@Goorleldo you play faceit?

[@RobuLuS]

Very well made video. Definitely relate to having hope a year ago and now none, Valve not deserving the Counter-Strike IP is 100% facts at this point.

[@folk_the_animator]

13:29 A cute cat! Yay!!

[@ilu.bmg1884]

cs2 is horrible. as a casual player that has experienced only like 100 hours of csgo and 100 of cs2 I can say that the first 100 hours felt like heaven and this now... pure frustration. I dont care about the "better" graphics, I just want a game, that feels smooth and is fun to play, that has a good matchmaking system, a good ranked system (like csgo had)... basically I want CSGO back.

[@steffbonneux5764]

13:23 he knows too much 😳

[@juanme555]

If you ever ask yourself "why?" just remember brothers, VALVe *DID NOT* make counter-strike , counter-strike was made by 2 hardcore fps lovers cliffe and gooseman , their vision of the game evolved with time and became loved and huge, that's why VALVe bought it off from them, VALVe didn't make CS , i wouldn't say CS made VALVe because VALVe hit the ground running with their first game in 1998 (Half-Life) but they are americans at their core and they will always have that narcissism of the glorious beautiful bay area silicon valley programmer, they just can't accept that counter-strike isn't theirs, if you look back at their update history through that lense then suddenly things make a lot more sense, every update regardless of how pointless, detrumental, lowering the skill ceiling, etc. has been done with the clear intention of VALVe putting "their mark" on the game, they desperately want to make people think that somehow *their* vision of CS is the real CS, and for as long as VALVe continues to hold the rights to counter-strike, that will never change, it will just be an infinite loop of decadence and casualization. It's all about the bottom line.

[@hellothisisme2010]

what is bro yapping about, just remember that VALVE THEMSELVES made CSGO the beauty that is today. CS2 is a shitshow, yes, but to say VALVe broke CS is just plain wrong. Also Cliffe and Gooseman is also in VALVe so I don't see your point mate. or just stay in your 1.6 dreams, idk

[@juanme555]

@@hellothisisme2010 whig history at its finest

[@hellothisisme2010]

@@juanme555 wdym

[@tenderandmoist5011]

​@@hellothisisme2010Valve didn't made CSGO lmao, everything good about that game was from the original console port, all Valve did was tweaks numbers and animations

[@KanataGamer]

Thanks for posting this Jeff. This encapsulates all of my gripes I have with CS2 and with Valve. It frustrates me to no end that a company so large can be so inattentive to a game that makes them billions. Games 100x smaller have better communication, anticheat and content updates than this and it just makes me tired to think about now.

[@maixyt]

So many new videos! Personally I think Source 2 is a necessary upgrade, however, the state that it has released in, and the updates we've received have been very half baked, CSGO still FEELS better to aim and move in. When the fundamental mechanics don't feel as good or even better than the previous game, don't release it just yet.

[@captainmccuckin2698]

CS2 is the Meet your Match of cs

[@nakkimeri8639]

From Cs go to Cs2, Valve took 1 step ahead, 5 steps backwards.

[@nosireyessir]

more like 0 steps ahead, 10 step backwards -10 steps worse than nothing

[@Dosor72]

CSGO is for gamers CS2 is for spectators

[@shivanshparihar5586]

I have stopped playing CS 2 for almost a year now, just played for 1-2 days when it came out, it felt like i have to re-learn spray pattern, spraying somehow felt weird. Thank god i didn't waste anymore time. It really is sad i had 6800 hours on CSGO. But i guess every good thing comes to an end.

[@RaimaNd]

KZbin filter is so nasty. Took me 30 minutes to write a elaborate post and it's just gone. Wow.

[@nickomg]

kitty at the end summs it up, looking angry and dunno whats going on 😂

[@orenji13]

imagine you are a real police or soldier and then you see your mates suddenly bunny hoping.

[@YeNguyen]

Funny enough, my favorite thing about this video is that you have friends of varying skill levels that you're just hanging out with. I'm happiest to hear that you have pals who have stuck by you.

[@magic00squirrel]

I know this isn't a problem for most people, but for a small minority of people, including myself, the networking in this game is just straight up broken and results in insane rubber-banding that makes the game feel even sloppier than it does normally. Man I miss GO

[@music_enjoyer1]

Thank you for making a whole video on this. Ive been playing for many years as a casual player mostly and i knew there were many issues like constant cheaters and a majority of content available but never really could piece it all together. After a long time away from the game and getting older, my ability to do well has been declining but I was always stuck at one rank for the last few years even when id try and put work in to help, I dont fully understand how the rank system works but its weird to experience no rank up and no rank down when you do really well and mostly top frag for more than a few months... Loved the video covering most things very in depth! Much love!

[@flameinfiren5565]

VAC = Valve Allows Cheats

[@FSGoingStraight]

I see youre having fun with the new Davinci Resolve 19 effects :D I love them too :D

[@his_purpose3]

The shooting and peeking feels dreadful to do and play against, and I blame it entirely on subtick

[@TestChannelWow-bh7ys]

it feels the same as csgo to me, I have been playing cs2 since launch and csgo for years before launch

[@VannrithSourisVa]

open the game itself is like a lottery, you might get smooth experience, and many times you get choppy experience