The AWP is terrible for MR12 in Counter Strike 2

[@dmitrykim3096]

Its more about economy, r12 is just not enough time to accumulate enough money to use it

[@n3bu1a]

A small reduction in cost could help!

[@josephbo7399]

@@n3bu1a naw remove $1400 loss bonus, its idiotic that its in the game. Even Valorant uses 1900/2400/2900 etc for their loss bonuses and the games is fine.

[@ChannelTheAttic]

1:23 Dude the awp stats has changed from csgo->cs2 what are you talking about. Quickswaping after quickscope makes a 0.2sec scope delay making it useless in close range fights (forcing not to move). I made a reddit post about this delay before. Also the accuracy has been dropped significantly while getting shot at.

[@iDragy]

i miss the 10 bullets in the awp the most tbh, it really nerfed the aggressive yolo playstyle, now its lowkey super risky to use it to prefire or try to wallbang as you will lose vital ammunition

[@SkeltherBot]

That nerf me so much. I was a menace with 10 ammo, now i need to play bit less agressive sadly than in cs go back then :(

[@hhavu]

the difference is that now when u take damage while scoped ur shots are not accurate

[@Shrooman_01]

Now I have something more to blame

[@thetrashycan]

I think they are accurate but the scope blurs. It also feels like (but I haven't confirmed this) it takes longer to unblur when you initially scope in, and noscopes feel inconsistent in online servers

[@1livan942]

How does this false piece of information receive a like from the video author and 25 likes overall x.x

[@hhavu]

@ ??? shit is different compared to csgo, in csgo u used to be able to shoot with 100% accuracy while takin damage, shit is not the same in CS2, imma link u a video when i find it

[@kingeling]

​@@1livan942They literally increased armor aim punch in cs2

[@TheRealCameron79]

Cool channel mate I like the style keep it going

[@n3bu1a]

Thanks mate! Really really appreciate comments like this.

[@Deadshot1956]

great video as always mate

[@n3bu1a]

Thanks brah

[@BrumbleJumble]

a lot of teams have been forcing second round forcing the full buy rounds to come later and the half ends earlier leading to no money throughout the game

[@delroku]

It's stupid because every nerf to the AWP has been useless or had the opposite effect The speed nerf was maybe fair but makes no sense being so excessive considering by that point is actually easier to use since now you can zero your aim by crouching. The magazine capacity is something but barely touches the actual problem with the AWP Which was how when CSGO made the players movement slower and guns more consistent they forgot to account for weapons balanced around faster gameplay And that's what really made the AWP so oppressive But instead of coming with an according balance change they just slapped random bullshit on it hoping it'd just make people hate it like they did in TF2 or really anything VALVE ever does when there's a balance problem. God forbid they have to actually do their job.

[@T2mure]

I think awp being less popular is good for the game overall. Tho it can do with a tiny buff to compensate for mr12, like drop its price to 4600 or something like that. Good vid!

[@n3bu1a]

Yeah I agree dropping the price slightly to enable an extra piece of utility could help with its pick up rate. Thanks T2!

[@JamesRuleGR]

Another certified banger 🎉

[@n3bu1a]

Qutting my job immediately

[@JamesRuleGR]

@@n3bu1a AH HE SPELT IT WRONG 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RobesonG]

Really well done video man, been liking for good cs content like this

[@Bewoda]

bring back the og scoped movement speed

[@ggMelvin]

I think it just makes the prospect of insane clutches less which is depressing. Although having fewer people become skilled awpers makes it more exciting when they do make it to the big stages, some insane plays coming 2025

[@yobobby9]

Make a video on the economy, propose a new one.

[@ksspqf9]

They should just switch to autosniper

[@cringekid69]

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[@n3bu1a]

Yep lmoa

[@DjFreeside]

With MR 12 less rounds are played, with less rounds played there are a lower amount of AWP's being bought. The decrease makes sense, the comparison to csgo with a MR 16 makes no sense. It shows the higher impact off it when used, when the decrease for the top players is this low. It's a 20% decrease in rounds with a drop off of less then 25% in KPR, with the above it is normal for this to happen.

[@avgdeagling]

2:29 This is because we are only playing 13 rounds.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dumptruckdoug]

Hope valve will do something in a year or so to bring the AWP to a decent spot. I think other than m0nesy and Zy, sh1ro is showing how to awp in cs2. Supportively and as needed.

[@n3bu1a]

In valve time. Thanks Doug!

[@m3g4byte]

Thanks!

[@n3bu1a]

Wow thanks!!!!

[@ryydalux]

0:03 I think about the ak actually

[@charuseTV]

I think a lot of the AWPers who have been successful are those who can play close range in CSGO, but then it's harder to hold angles, why I think a lot of the top AWPers miss a lot of easy shots, in CSGO it was easier to hold long angles and people were more successful at that

[@n3bu1a]

Yeah. M0nesy has been one of the AWPers leading the way in terms of leading the way in CS2. As more AWPers adjust their style to fit what the game has begun, its impact will slowly increase.

[@lovelybon3z689]

@@n3bu1amonesy dropped 4 AWP kills yesterday. It got ugly

[@CSAimz]

RIP AWP

[@_quit_2507]

Honestly see it as a plus, the AWP has always been too op, and I now think it is perfectly balanced.

[@_quit_2507]

Also peekers advantage on LAN is the same for CS2 and CS GO

[@n3bu1a]

I think it has always been more OP at lower levels than higher, as people dont know how to flash off angles to clear the AWP. But I agree it is in an ok place now, being a touch weaker than during CSGO.

[@AcESupersonic]

you are inexperienced at playing cs

U just sucķ

[@thetrashycan]

It wasn't OP at all after the kennyS nerfs

[@ViTheStreamer]

They changed the scope in accuracy recently...

[@fnutek3720]

Very nice video, but the video feels very chaotic, i think some segments are way too short. but very good video nonetheless :D

[@monkei6]

... 3:22 Not after Shanghai anymore

[@clubcyberialain]

very educated and informative video, i think the awp genuinely feels like a weaker option, maybe a price reduction would help, or increasing scoped ms

[@n3bu1a]

Thanks for watching!

[@k0mmand]

I think the autosnipers had this exact problem in CS:GO- while super effective, it's a very big and risky investment in MR15, which makes players prefer the AWP over them as even that $250 saved goes a long way. With MR12 in CS2, even that has become too big of an investment as there aren't that many rounds to gain money to full buy with AWPs and util. The AUG and SG 553 also had a similar issue with the extra investment for nearly insignificant benefits over the M4s and AK, respectively, with that extra $200 price tag, before their price reductions in 2018, but then again, people weren't really abusing SMGs as much as people do now to gain more money with higher kill rewards to buy the scoped rifles. If the AUG and SG didn't get the nerfs they got in 2019 and MP9 and MAC-10 usage increased the way it did, they'd be decently good gambles for both teams for specific niches they excel at.

[@aIIix]

the autosniper was and still isn't super effective unless you were silver wtf are u on about lol

[@m3g4byte]

AWP? More like... NAP. Wake me up when it's scary again! #RIPAWP 😴💥

[@Garmour]

nice video king

[@n3bu1a]

Thanks garmy general

[@eren.123-]

In my opinion AWP being less impactful is good for the game's health overall. I've always hated dying to a bodyshot that leaves no room for trading/duelling. You can not cross angles without making noise, you have to utilize smokes and flashes. Especially in corridor maps like Inferno it feels like you are stuck in a cage. And this is CS, not some point and click browser game.

[@Helmuuuuut_CS]

You lost me, when you said m0NESY is on track on being the best player of 2024, just 3 days after the Major, where he partially didn't show up and the little guy won the double-crown.

[@n3bu1a]

He was at the time of scripting. But yes, now he is #2 max. Maybe even #3 to Zywoo

[@questionableidentity1]

you're going to get less awp kills per round in cs2 because of MR12. There's simply less gun rounds and more pistol rounds no matter how you slice it

[@n3bu1a]

Yes. Fewer rounds is the largest impact on AWP usage. And there are not really any pure AWPers now, everyone can use rifles.

[@Mogojoegotube]

Thing is I like the AWP but I think most AWPers just switch to the AK or M4 these days.

[@n3bu1a]

Definitely

[@SkeltherBot]

I love it because I can always be main awper in pug games :o

[@leaprotein2009]

No need to go back. Otherwise we’ll see five awp vs five awp.

[@MidheimOfficial]

Very nice analysis, i come to the same conclusions. I do think its a little unhealthy for the game that it has gotten so fast. The weaker AWP is an important factor for that. I do not believe the AWP really needs changes (perhaps the magazine size could be increased by 1 or 2 bullets), but the game overall could use some balance adjustments to counteract some of the more 'toxic' sideeffects of MR12. Options are to forego the 1400 loss Bonus completely, but hard resetting an opponent is very rewarding so mabye thats not it. Perhaps increasing the round timer to 2:00 Minutes would have interesting effects, certainly not the direction Valve have taken the game into, but i would really like to see some changes to make the games a little longer again. The game feels more Snowball heavy and i think its mostly because one bad half can be much more devastating than in GO. In bad case szenarios you just have too few Gun Rounds or get the Gun Rounds to late into the half. Being down 4-0 or 5-0 just sucks so much in CS2, where in GO it did not really matter, comparatively. If you go down 5-0 and you forced one to many times the AWP will also play way less of a role for your team, while in MR15 you basically still had the hole half to play and build a 5 rounds lead for 5-10 off of a single gun if you had s1mple in your team. The more i think about it: i would like to see Valve experiment with MR13. Add one more round to play. I think it can make all the difference when it comes to Tempo.

[@semicolon101]

Good, what an OP pos used by people who just camp angles in casual ruining it for everyone

[@hichemzerigui6469]

you forget your biggest argument which is JAME VP

[@ehd3r3hab4]

The AWP is still kinda strong. If you use an AOC monitor, you can use the built in crosshair, and it makes a HUUUUGE difference in having a crosshair in with your sniper

[@SkeltherBot]

Broo, it doesnt matter xD that crosshair on monitor is just bullshit and only helps really bad players

[@ZaneSNA]

IMO this is entirely down to mr12 and the state of the economy. force buys have become increasingly effective, and awpers are just simply unable to afford the weapon with these changes

[@KohYenJag]

CS2 or CSGO it just a game? Should M4A4 be called MK18? They are just M4 not M4A1 which is so weird. If M4A4 actually exist, It would not look like CSGO M4A4.

[@BrumbleJumble]

thank god the awp isnt as good i hate that weapon

[@kabanod1m]

peeker's advantage… but they're playing on LAN…? well, at least finally somebody that noticed that AWP, as a weapon, hasn't been changed since CS:GO. the only thing that changed is that your spread now increases for about 1-2 ticks after taking damage

[@marusis4453]

when you think cs you think ak not op

[@double4iampoor]

CRINGE NOOB WEAPON

[@railguncs]

fake news