Court is the ONLY Suitable Place for Trump! (w/ Joe Walsh) | Bulwark Podcast

This election is about being a grownup and making a choice. One candidate is clearly preferable, and a protest vote sends a message to no one. Meanwhile, Biden is not waiting to take the fight to Trump, and Democrats have to call out culture war ugliness. Plus, another installment of "The Right Stuff." Joe Walsh joins Tim Miller today.
0:00 - Intro
1:49 - Joe Biden Challenges Donald Trump to Debate
7:11 - Mitt Romney Says Biden Should Pardon Trump
9:09 - Responsibility with Political Strategies
12:37 - GOP Candidate Valentina Gomez’s Ad: “Don’t Be Weak and Gay”
16:27 - How Politicians Could Be Stronger on Guns
18:37 - John McEntee’s Latest TikTok
22:17 - Biden’s Handling of Israel and Hamas
37:44 - Biden’s Messaging on the Economy
40:47 - Where is Red Line Beyond Trump
46:18 - Jonah Goldberg on Symbolic Voting
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[@dharriusthun]

I still just can’t wrap my head around the fact that anyone in America wants a criminal for president. Truly mind boggling.

[@alonawhalen]

Our hands are tied by altered election polls. More than likely hacked by the Russians like the 2016 election.

[@bridgetbeckett3264]

In Canada, to own and use a gun, it is necessary to take a course taught by a certified instructor and pass a test. Pretty basic stuff to possess and use a tool that's only purpose is to make living creatures, unalive. Period. ❤ from Canada 🇨🇦

[@michaelvigil478]

👍👍👍😊

[@user-lc4sq6xp7z]

Makes sense to me!

[@janehollander1934]

I'm glad I live in a 🇪🇺country where it's illegal to possess and wear weapons in public. Only those with government licences (like official/government employed wildlife hunters and people who belong to a gun/sports clubs). And their weapons are all stored at their work or shooting range. Being caught with illegal weapons (knives/pistols/guns) without a government permit, will land you in prison for 6 to 9 months - without a change for parole.

[@calumashleymcdonough8955]

Agreed wholeheartedly from Vancouver

[@davidthetford8802]

COURT is the only suitable place for Trump!? I think not. How about PRISON!?

[@glennmorgan4197]

Or maybe an insane asylum?

[@TerryFlynn-sd1ho]

I'm Appalled that people can get SO Taken in By This Unhinged Snake Oil Salesman, Such an Obvious Lowlife! I've Never Been More Disgusted With Literally Half of America! Just Gullible!

[@trishmccormick5163]

As a heterosexual Democrat, I'm offended by that ad. What year is this? WTF?

[@Terry-lh8cn]

@@trishmccormick5163 Ads are unique to the viewer. What ad?

[@trishmccormick5163]

@@Terry-lh8cn The ad said something about not being weak and gay.

[@kirtjames1353]

Yes, he is a psychopath that has yet to be held accountable. America needs a win against this monster.

[@James-hd4ms]

Come on, Tim isn’t that bad.

[@susanbeaubien4234]

We will never see Trump be held accountable for what he has done !!! NEVER !!!! Its too much Honor among thieves!!

[@SnoozeAddict]

We did get a win. He lost in 2020 and he will lose in 2024. 😊

[@TerryFlynn-sd1ho]

Trump is EVIL period. America Needs to Wake Up.This Nightmare Needs To End!

[@lyseight1l991]

I have begun wondering how many psychopaths he has surrounded himself with?

[@kevinkeith4578]

Biden has proved his metal by the remarkable amount of work he has already done for the American people.

[@lydiagoldsmith2931]

Biden is not fighting He needs to talk about his wins. His work. You don’t pardon a traitor. End of story

[@randibgood]

​@@lydiagoldsmith2931 Who is Biden talking about giving a pardon? I agree, his campaign does need to get more messaging about the remarkable economic recovery he has overseen, the PACT Act, the CHIPS Act, etc.

[@Werrf1]

*mettle rather than metal. I agree, Biden has been an excellent head of government. Unfortunately, his weakness lies in being head of _state._ He's not doing a great job of leading the conversation, setting the agenda, and getting the electorate to follow his agenda.

[@littlejerryseinfeld4168]

@@lydiagoldsmith2931 The problem with what youre saying is that when he does fight he gets criticized by every single disseminator of information that is "trusted" - meanwhile the same media sources are apologizing for Trump left and right, CNN has become the post trump administration/post trump legal team pipeline to failing upwards. Everyones got an opinion on what Biden needs to do, maybe they need to start putting advertisements in these editorial sections. It's all childish crap, which is why I never gave a shit about politics until it literally came to what its come to.

[@marcdewey1242]

Oh,well that's funny,inflation is out of control gas and grocery prices are stiil up,not to mention illegal migrant criminals running around robbing and killing people,so just what has he done to help the American people?

[@aaronroberts6606]

I’ve been in the military for 24 years and the 18 year olds we arm are highly trained, closely supervised, and monitored for mental health issues.

[@wanderlustworldschooling543]

Things many of us are advocating for for average citizens to own guns too 😂

[@GlenMurrayonline]

Exactly

[@KaraBaker-ux3wr]

All excellent points. Every time more training or screening get proposed the gun advocates freak out. Every time more mental health care is brought up that gets shot down as liberal over reach. I wish people would stop labeling and focus on logic. Thanks for pointing out what should be obvious.

[@Spit87]

The problem is as soon as they leave the military, they get left all on their own

[@KaraBaker-ux3wr]

And that is something that I think is horribly shameful. I don’t know how other countries handle this but I do know from the beginning of the US soldiers have been dispersed and expected to blend back into their former life. Many probably didn’t like that life before they served. Expecting this of civil war era soldiers didn’t work for all and it clearly doesn’t work for all now. And again when people advocate for money to support our veterans people say it’s liberals wanting social programs. To me it’s helping people that we owe a huge debt to. I have always felt that way largely because I don’t come from a military family. It is horrible to expect young soldiers to just figure it all out with little resources for those who need it.

[@artemisfowl2820]

President Biden DID TELL USA that the road out of Covid and slumpy economy would be difficult BUT THAT WE WOULD COME OUT OF IT! STRONGER!!! And we did, Joe Walsh! 😠

[@macsmith2013]

Yeah, his tea party roots showed a few times.

[@glasperlinspiel]

I’m gnashing my teeth over the failure to go after the guy directly responsible for 800k deaths in America and millions worldwide

[@dionmcgee5610]

Can you imagine the uproar from the republicans and the corporate media if a democrat had been president during Covid and behaved the way Donny did? They would never have shut up about it- and they would have been correct for a change. ABC, CBS etc...(not to mention Fox) would have each done "in depth" reports into the dem presidents failures. I've been going by a - 400,000 estimate I saw, but I was musing about it just yesterday and came to the conclusion that 400,000 was far too conservative. I settled on 700,000- but 800,000 seems entirely plausible. If we include all his rallies and the people who followed his advice and went shopping at the height of the pandemic, plus the people those people spread it to, and the people they etc...on and on- 800,000 sounds much more than just fair.

[@hoofarmorhoofcare]

My Mother died because of Trump mishandling the Covid response. I will NEVER forgive that. He should be on trial for murder.

[@randibgood]

​@@marcdewey1242 That would be the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF. The one who LIED, to us for MONTHS about how contagious and deadly COVID was. The one who made every mitigation measure POLITICAL fodder.

[@edwardsbarbara25]

​@@marcdewey1242🙄

[@GillieWilson-ze2df]

@@marcdewey1242 Trump!

[@marymccormick8166]

Pres Biden is right to keep quiet during the trial. Trumps lawyers would avail of any opportunity to cause a mistrial.. Thats the last thing you need. Plenty of time to go after him when the jury have made their decision.

[@elaineburnett5230]

Very true

[@auntieangie6546]

Was just coming to say that...assuming he'll be convincted THAT’S when to come in hard. "The former, convicted by a jury of his peers, president says...blah, blah, blah..."

[@glennmorgan4197]

There's still something to be said about his behavior that led to the indictments 😮🤬💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊

[@ds5436]

Lawrence O'Donnell did a segment on his show where he talked about how President Nixon commented on Charles Manson's guilt during that trial. Because of the enormous platform the POTUS has, sharing his opinion on Trump's guilt is pretty risky. I think needling him about being stuck in court is about the furthest Biden can go without giving cause to the defense to move for a mistrial (again).

[@littlejerryseinfeld4168]

@@ds5436 and the trial is going to be over in like a week - the problem lies that America's economy runs on people paying attention to individual people, everyones got their own brand and we live in a world where speed of information is valued over accuracy. Having these kind of shows 7 days a week that millions of people are consuming is distorting the truth by activating peoples limbic responses every single day.

[@gamtngirl3655]

Actually, one reason Joe Biden fans love him is his dignity and self control. I don’t need for Biden stoop to lowest levels and fight like Trump.

[@wanderlustworldschooling543]

I was telling my daughter last night that I do appreciate the digs that Biden is finally throwing back. Trump doesn’t make substantive attacks. He just name calls and makes up lies. After following the Lincoln project and other professional mental health experts- I better understand the benefit, and arguably the need, to attack Trump in a way that the democrats weren’t willing to do before. They sat back thinking that people would recognize the stupidity of trump and his lies going back to Obamas birth certificate.

[@nancygibson604]

Joe would nt stoop to trumps levil😊😊😊

[@rachelk4805]

This reminds me of the abolitionists position before the Civil War. The South kept sending politicians to Congress whom they wanted to see dueling and throwing hands. The North was the opposite, they wanted dignified representation. And so the South easily pushed the Northern congressmen around until a group of them got tired of it and said basically, "screw the union, screw dignity, if you attack us again, we are going to respond in kind." Downside is we got a war, but on the positive, we finally ended slavery. Not everyone can be reasoned with, but it is better to try.

[@user-vt3xd9oe2j]

I don't want to see him on Trump's level, but I DO want to see him taking him on on the facts... and hard.

[@danphillips9382]

It’s not even about where the red line for Biden is, it’s that Trump jumped across the red line a long time ago and he hasn’t stopped moving in that direction

[@rchamley]

Yeah- ummm one small point. An 18 year old going off to fight in the military has TRAINING. Your average Joe out on the street does not have any training, no licensing or insurance requirements. Give me a break. That required push back

[@bradhombre6912]

Training AND oversight. You can get kicked out of the military or fail to get accepted. I believe they’re also subject to psychological evaluations.

[@James-hd4ms]

You are wrong.

[@bradhombre6912]

@@James-hd4ms licensing and permitting requirements vary by state

[@SorbusAucubaria]

@@bradhombre6912 I think the government should make purchasing bullets requiring ability to handle guns and registration. No more any kind of ammunition for people who dont know how to use and handle guns.

[@randibgood]

​​ Military members don't have TRAINING??? They can't get kicked out??? No psychological evaluation??? YOU are WRONG.

[@lhoward9593]

Joe, the difference about an 18 year old and guns is that they are regulated and monitored in the military.

[@bradhombre6912]

Supporting Netanyahu publicly and providing criticism privately, like Walsh suggests, is exactly what Biden did for months. Unfortunately, Netanyahu is not a good partner. It’s not an easy balance to strike on Gaza. There are many important things to consider. Biden seems to me to at least be trying to consider it all and trying to find the right balance. Trump doesn’t give a crap about any of it. He’ll just do whatever he thinks will benefit him politically or help his personal business interests.

[@catpaladin1]

Netanyahu is praying to his God that Trump returns to office.

[@davidobriend8560]

It was a really dumb strategy, and he might lose over it.

[@bradhombre6912]

@@davidobriend8560 Maybe it was a bad strategy, but was there any good strategy possible? Biden doesn't get to choose the Israeli prime minister and he doesn't get to choose the leadership of Hamas. I can understand why Biden might have thought it was the least bad strategy and worth a try. At least it wasn't a crazy thing to do.

[@randibgood]

​@@bradhombre6912 I agree 100%. There isn't a good way to handle it. I can't imagine if the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF had still been in office.

[@deerobins9086]

It doesn't bear thinking about.

[@victorzarenin9286]

I love hearing from Joe Walsh. He reminds me again and again that there's hope to get conservatives away from the MAGA brain vacuum.

[@belish5665]

I get that seeing people moderate is good, but I share no sympathy for ghouls who helped create this mess. It's like someone turning on the garden hose and then being shocked that the lawn is soaked. They helped create this monster. It's nice to repent but it doesn't make up for the amount of people who have been radicalized by Joe Walsh.

[@FakingANerve]

​@@belish5665 Amen to that, and also... this guy is chock full of shite takes. He's against Trump - cool. He seems to be terrible on every other topic brought up in this pod. I mean... good god.

[@Aarkwrite]

@@FakingANerveso true

[@sugarmag78]

If you had asked me 10 years ago if I would be listening to Tim Miller and Joe Walsh, I would have assumed it was to argue. I have to say how much I appreciate that both have recognized their fault and that's more than most former Republicans.

[@richardvickrey4786]

Love your comment & couldn't agree more! 💙

[@jeandelorme7407]

Mr. Romney is forgetting one vital thing about a pardon. A pardon is only granted after an admission of guilt.

[@ede-jomadden8182]

Not sure that the MAGAites didn't change that requirement during the trump admin.

[@BelleOmbreGrey]

The Constitution puts no such requirement on the President's pardon power.

[@daphnedherbert]

Its just about being found to have committed a crime. Doesn’t have anything to do with guilt or innocence.

[@cynthiaparsley3511]

Romney is STILL scared to tell the real truth. Nixon should have never been pardoned because it set the precedent that bad behavior CAN BE acceptable if you get pardoned!

[@macsmith2013]

​@@BelleOmbreGreyYou're sadly right. Otherwise blanket pardons wouldn't be a thing.

[@guyrose2847]

Equivocating an 18 year-old carrying a machine gun wherever he goes in your country with an 18 year-old carrying a gun in a war zone is the most asinine reasoning I have ever heard. Or it says a lot about your country.

[@davidgray867]

Especially when that 18 when on base in the US isn’t allowed to walk around with a gun

[@guyrose2847]

@@davidgray867 VERY fair point...

[@maryoberschlake1988]

It seems to me that any 18 year old (and the adults in their life) that wants/needs to walk around in their OWN FREAKING COUNTRY with an automatic weapon must think they are living in a war zone. And that is a dangerous perception of our communal reality. This world view could lead to an actual war.

[@RobRoss]

People in the military are given *weeks* of training regarding their firearms in Basic Training, and then MONTHS of training for specialized weapons systems, like machine guns, etc. Weapons are kept under lock and key and high security in armories, not left behind couches or in the closet or under the bed. When you *need* your weapon, you check it out of the armory with the proper credentials (i.e. military I.D.) and proper orders, and that transaction is recorded. Getting ammunition is even more regulated. Things may be different in actual war zones, but when you are not actually on the front lines (and not in a job that requires a firearm, like Base Security or Military Police, etc.) your weapons go back into the armory for safe keeping. At no time can you just pick up your M-16 because you feel like it. There needs to be a military purpose and there is a detailed accounting. We have nothing like this in the civilian world. An untrained 18 year old is NOT responsible enough to own an AR-15 or any other assault rifle.

[@GinaAndersonCRR]

@@RobRoss Exactly!

[@kat8234]

how do you pardon someone who doesn't take accountability for their actions. It doesn't make sense.

[@gillu3]

Joe, you asked how else Israel could have handled Hamas other than full on slaughter of innocent civilians in Gaza. You might want to consider Northern Ireland & IRA. There were terrorists on both sides both IRA and UDA and British Government did some awful things too, but we did not bomb Belfast and its citizens into oblivion.

[@FakingANerve]

Good comparison. 🍻

[@FakingANerve]

...but he would have "taken care of the IRA in two months if he were in charge." 😂😂😂

[@nomadpurple6154]

@@FakingANerve He thinks they have pin badges saying "I'm with Hamas" so he can identify them. You know like 'someone' made people wear ethnic ID in the 30s and 40s

[@macsmith2013]

​@@FakingANerveTrump would have turned ALL of Ireland into a parking lot in the long run.

[@kestockbridge]

A terrible comparison to compare the IRA or UDA with Hamas. That is just ridiculous; they are/were completely different compared to Hamas.

[@saturdayplayer2492]

He is potentially the most dangerous person on Earth and yet so many Americans don't see this.

[@randibgood]

It is truly baffling how he still has ANY support. I just don't get it?

[@wanderlustworldschooling543]

It’s a hard balance to make. He IS a threat. And yet BEING a threat plays right in to his authoritarian persona.

[@wanderlustworldschooling543]

@@randibgoodI have to remind myself that they are truly living in a different reality. They are actually oblivious to what the rest of us see and know because they’ve been so brainwashed to only believe him and his surrogates.

[@susanfrancis5471]

We all saw trump at Helsinki bowing to Putin, and denying Covid was a danger, plus stealing highly classified documents, putting an Oil Baron in charge of Environment . He’s dragging almost all the Republicans in Congress to the Gravel Pit with him. If he gets back in office America is done.

[@CJScrol]

During Trump’s tenure, he fired responsible & sane cabinet members routinely, top generals, the Director of the FBI, the Surgeon General & attorneys who pushed back against him. There are no sane people in Trump’s circle now.

[@HermioneGranger-gu7rk]

Thank you, Tim, for great questions. Thank you, Joe for your commentary.

[@lindaflesch7303]

WHY are all media treating the Indicted One as though he is a normal candidate?

[@louisemccoy9410]

They are certainly not concerned for Freedom and Democracy ! The media has been woefully ignorant !! Remember Stahl vs Moscow Marge ? 🤢

[@memi510]

36:42 How do you know he hasn't, Joe? Also, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been pulling Israel to the far right. He never wanted to compromise. This was always what he wanted.

[@macsmith2013]

They've been talking openly behind the scenes for month, no doubt. Biden's public criticism of Bibi is the result of the failure of these talks.

[@ejjunkins9740]

My red line was when 45 called our military losers and suckers!

[@randibgood]

As it should have been for any military members, current or former, as well as their family members.

[@annakingry9157]

Yep. It was also classy of him to steal security information to what? Sell to our adversaries? Keep stacked in the bathroom? Show off with? For sure, no respect to people who might have paid a huge price to obtain that secret information.

[@macsmith2013]

Especially the ones who lost life, limb or freedom. Yet, Trump's audience believe him to be "the most military friendly president ever". Facts don't matter anymore to those people.

[@danburnes722]

Perhaps it is best to understand why people support Trump. Usually, most of them say how much better the country was with Trump. This is objectively not true. The truth is really that Trump’s supporters want their bigotry and hate validated. This needs to be talked about.

[@catpaladin1]

I am thankful for The Bulwark. As an undeclared voter who tends to vote Dem (Because of the Republican damage done throughout my lifetime - accelerating with Reagan) I crave the opportunity to not be in an echo chamber to gain knowledge. No way will I vote any other way than Dems - likely for the rest of my life - because of Project 2025 but I appreciate intelligent discourse. Don’t find that on MSM.

[@joanfregapane8683]

I agree. When I lived in Illinois, I routinely voted for both Democrats and Republicans for all levels of government save president (all Democrats there!). I am old enough to have voted for Chuck Percy for US Senator. But. As the radical right began taking over the Republican Party, I voted for fewer and fewer people from the GOP. From 2016 on, and probably for the rest of my life, I too will never vote for a Republican. We have seen that even the ‘normal’ Republicans will typically choose a horrible course of action to align with the Party leadership rather than do the right thing. They can’t be trusted any more to ever choose the country’s interests over the Party’s- AND the Party is now Donald Trump.

[@sandraavalos5724]

I ask again to libertarians/ Tea Party people where does the privatize everything stop? Privatize roads, fire departments, police, education, we’ve already privatized prisons and look how that’s turned out?

[@judithlopez3038]

When you say there shouldn't be any distance between us and Israel, which part of Isreal do you mean? Much of Isreal doesn't approve of Netanyahu's actions either.😢

[@kammychinnock339]

The problem that I see with the Democratic Party is that they are too nice. They don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. They want everyone to feel accepted and heard. But there are times when people should not be accepted and should be shut down!

[@catpaladin1]

And in a way - after years of schools giving awards for nothing - here we are.

[@kammychinnock339]

@@catpaladin1 Oh, yeah! I feel exactly the same way!

[@randibgood]

I want the moderators to have the ability to cut the microphone for whoever talks over the other in the debates. I also hope they figure out some way to FACT CHECK the ex LIAR-IN-CHIEF.

[@phemykadri9487]

With the Israeli defense Minister openly expressing criticism of Netanyahu and the war strategy going forward, I wonder whether Joe Walsh still has same thoughts about the US trying to condition aid. I also think it’s disingenuous to say that Biden hasn’t been with Israel, he’s literally losing votes and putting his election prospects at risk by being too supportive of Israel. I think it’s fair that critics should truthfully acknowledge this

[@abortretryfail9350]

Strange times indeed when I'm totally agreeing with Joe Walsh, he _has_ mellowed.... 😂

[@urkiddingme6254]

"The vast majority of American people are tolerant." I have to constantly remind myself of this fact.

[@FelonFitness]

And yet they (registered Republicans) vote for candidates who are intolerant.

[@littlejerryseinfeld4168]

the media environment distorts and discourages thinking about things from a longer perspective - the best thing from a personal perspective is to not consume this shit really, its infotainment, or at least consume it less. I have to constantly remind myself of that

[@Riley0509]

Not sure that is still true.

[@stewarer]

(22:30) RE Biden's Response. I'm not sure that Joe Walsh has served in military operations or intelligence and so his red line is maybe not based on the history of how the kind of response he is advocating for is effective (remember Fallujah?). The disproportionate response by Israel to the horrific attack on October 7th resulted in over 30,000 civilian deaths, and turned bystanders in sympathizers and sympathizers into activists. The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is appalling and unacceptable. You can firmly believe in a sovereign Israeli nation and not support the mishandling of their military response. Biden's bear-hug of Bibi was not working to actually effectuate peace. How does Joe Walsh actually think Israel could have wiped out Hamas sooner without killing everyone on the ground, as Lindsey Graham has proposed?

[@FakingANerve]

Joe Walsh would have wiped them out in 2 months or so if he were in charge... didn't you hear? 😏

[@ShatzThe]

Great interview! I must say, I'm impressed with Joe Walsh. To go from a die hard Tea Partier to a Never Trumper definitely takes guts, and certainly he shows way more guts than 95% of his fellow Republican politicians. Nice to know that with a few people at least, with age comes wisdom.

[@kittybluett8887]

Except the 18 year old is carrying a gun in a war and that too is debatable. Those guns that are used in a war make it so much easier to kill many in a matter of seconds should not be allowed on your streets. I live in NZ, we had one horrific mass shooting perpetrated by an Australian bc they have tough gun restrictions after they had a mass shooting in the 90s. Many of us did not know that these guns of mass destruction were allowed. It took our government a week to pass the ban of these guns. Btw the NRA tried to interfere and reached out to the idiot gun lobbyists here.

[@Bigfield47]

Great show. I think a couple of things have changed since we were republicans. For one…the country didn’t have The Bulwark and others reaching beyond legacy media invested in pro democracy leadership. Plus our courts have created a situation where it becomes imperative that Joe Biden appoint the next Supreme Court justices. Women think about their health care and life decisions every day and are going to vote for their best interests. Sometimes men forget that. Plus we can never let trump near classified information again.

[@Sunmoon-gj9gy]

Democrats need to show up at the Trial and defend the RULE OF LAW

[@brandonm949]

The justice system is defending the rule of law. Democrats should stay out of it. Let the judge and jury do their thing.

[@macsmith2013]

Yeah, but that would play even more into the MAGA narrative that these trials are fake and instigated by Biden and the Democrats in the first place.

[@Dex2R7]

I don't agree with Joe on everything but I'm thankful that he's a force out here fighting for democracy.

[@hw-rg7gn]

Walsh placing unfettered support for Israel above US democracy is indefensible.

[@scottwarthin1528]

Redeemable! Redemption is Tim Miller's PRIZE! Whenever conservatives vocalize regrets an angel earns her wings!

[@tomheringer]

Nice analogy. When does the limit on redeemable run out? They can’t lead us to war, and then decide it’s a bridge too far. They can’t help Trump win, and then get buyers remorse. It’s too late to be forgiven then.

[@zaphoddog3878]

A good counter to that old Republican't saw that starts "If we're going to ask an 18 year old to carry a gun into danger..." Fine. If you are actually serving you get a waiver. Otherwise, you have to be 26.

[@Maevelikeschampagne]

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[@margaretwalsh8361]

Proud to be listening to this 6 minutes after posting and 3rd comment. The Bulwark is amazing, Tim Miller is incredible and Joe Walsh is my favorite! I’m a Walsh too, Joe! Thanks for representing!

[@Chris-zg7ty]

An 18 year old joining the military where people are evaluated and the guns are highly regulated/controlled and they are highly trained is not at all equivalent to an 18 year old with potential mental problems walking into a gun store to buy an AR15 with no training whatsoever. I really hate that argument unless you want to also say people need to be evaluated and trained before making that purchase.

[@davidalston8730]

“…he’s a lawless, UnAmerican psychopath!!” The single best description of him ever!

[@macsmith2013]

Looking from the outside in, Trump is in some ways the most American president ever. He represents almost every cliché large parts of the world have about the "average American".

[@claudiabenedetti353]

I love your strong voice with the rights of Americans 💙

[@marjorydam701]

Between you and James Carville, there is hope for Louisiana ! I'm an LSU grad who left in 1968 and never returned.

[@dlcs1406]

I was shocked to hear Mitt Romney's hypocritical statement

[@catpaladin1]

Why? Romney was part of Bain Capital at one point. Bain merged my Fortune 500 company with a smaller one and then broke up all the components of my well ran company and sold off the parts for big money. One part went to the UK, another merged with a space and military company, and other - i don’t remember maybe China.

[@catpaladin1]

I just looked it up. It was sold in 2002 to the Blackstone group (edit) It is now owned by a German company.

[@johnpahlmann7635]

I don’t get half of America. They want a perfect candidate with perfect policies, both of which are impossible, so Trump will be elected. When stability isn’t good enough we will allow chaos just so we can show democrats to start being perfect, or else.

[@erikhumleker1880]

Never seen someone do such a 180 as much as Joe Walsh. He used to be Trump before Trump.

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

Last time I was this early Trump invited Hillary to his wedding.

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

She was at his third wedding for sure. This was when he was a Democrat

[@davidburdecki6478]

We tried lowering the drinking age. The insurance companies shut that down. Carnage on the highways.

[@nomadpurple6154]

Could have raised the driving age so children are banned from being on the public roads.

[@macsmith2013]

​@@nomadpurple6154That wouldn't work in the US with its vast distances and practically non existent public transit in the more rural parts of the country.

[@michaeltwyman997]

Trump don't go away mad just go away.

[@bweresquirrel8279]

Maybe show a contrast: first the beer young people can't have until age 21. Then the AR-15 that people can get before they graduate from high school.

[@nomadpurple6154]

But children can drive cars and kill with them. The age rules make no sense.

[@jamesavery6254]

How is this election even a contest? What is wrong with this country?

[@markendicott6874]

Jail is by far the better option.

[@James-hd4ms]

Lay off Tim’s sexuality.

[@tracevicente]

Hakeem Jeffries was the PERFECT choice as he slays with intellect and calm. Pelosi knows her people. Aguilar and Clark are great as well. GenX is taking over and we can do this!

[@susanjohnston4066]

Love how Tim can have amazing conversations with so many different people who all enjoy his company. Speaks to his IQ and EQ. ❤

[@maryforbes9530]

I heard a lawyer make the point that Biden as the President of the U.S.A. is wise to stay out of commenting on the trial stuff because you don't want a mistrial because of the President's influence on jurors.

[@O_U_No_It_2]

*Don't go away mad, just go away.* _🗳️💙🌊_

[@Rosebud221]

I get so tired of people saying if an 18 year old can go into the military then they should be able to buy a gun….really? The difference between an 18 year old walking into a Walmart and buying an assault rifle and an 18 year old in the military caring an assault rifle is very significant! it’s called TRAINING!!!!

[@macsmith2013]

Plus supervision, mental health support, and they can be kicked out anytime if their training officers or superiors consider them a danger.

[@beardown6574]

Really good conversation fellas! I like Joe's rants lol

[@dallaslouie]

Trump's crooked luck will run out soon this year.

[@thebookelf2135]

The Only instance in which I agree with J Walsh is Never Trump.

[@wanderlustworldschooling543]

I did appreciate his informed and rationale arguments. I do agree with him on more issues than Never Trump as I tend to lean a little libertarian apparently But even when I didn’t agree with him- I could respect his opinions and stances as at least being legitimate.

[@carolinestechschulte167]

I love you guys ! You have awakened from playing the political game to win no matter what and are now trying to warn people about the danger of stupid men having power. Good for you even if you are late to the party 🎉

[@andrewduff2048]

I’d be fine with allowing an 18 year old that serves in the military to have an AR-15 because they get training and when joining there are mental health screenings. The military is highly structured so carrying a weapon in that role doesn’t logically justify free access. The main reason against lowering the drinking age to 18 is that it would massively increases access to alcohol for everyone in high school. The age was moved up for a reason.

[@catpaladin1]

The human brain is still rapidly developing until around age 26. The earlier one starts substance use, alcohol included - the greater the chance of addiction. Add alcohol and drugs to age 18 and you have some potentially out of control consequences. The dumb ones will drink anyway. But if we can save some kids from addiction Im for waiting.

[@nomadpurple6154]

@@catpaladin1 Not the brain 26 false science again, one study with less than 100 people is not a scientific fact. The human brain rewires itself throughout life.

[@Maevelikeschampagne]

insurance company lobby and it just trickled down-. thats the reason

[@macsmith2013]

Yet most other countries don't have huge problems with a drinking age of 18. Maybe it's a cultural thing and Americans just can't handle their liquor?

[@TheBluemikes]

Bravo, Tim! You and the rest of The Bulwark crew are continuing to deliver the highest quality forum for intelligent analysis of our current political situation.

[@glennmorgan4197]

7:30 That's the dumbest thing to come out of Romney's mouth yet 😮🤬💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊

[@arlenewipfler5475]

Hundreds of people are charged every year in NYC for the same financial crimes as Donald Trump! Financial accountability is very important because NY is the financial capital of the country! For Biden to interfere would be grossly overstepping!

[@rlc9]

He isn't though is he?

[@glasperlinspiel]

Fear and oily-muscle authoritarianism reinforce each other. Charlie Chaplin had the right cultural approach with The Great Dictator. Help people laugh off all the Republican “mean-girl” bs

[@mikeshaunnessey9303]

But BiBi won't step down, he'll go to jail if he does.

[@loiscase4497]

I have been a lifelong Democrat. I'm not rigid about it but I just have never run across a Republican who I thought had the best interests of the people at heart. I was appalled when Trump ran the first time. I and a bunch of my friends went into deep mourning when he won. Now, I know that his return to power would be utterly horrible for the country. It would take a generation or more to get back to anything resembling normal. I'm 75 so I won't have to deal with it all very long. It is my grand children that I am deeply worried about. I just hope that enough people wake up in time!

[@user-mc2ph1ne1v]

I’ve never seen Walsh outside of cable news. Although I disagree w/him on many issues I’ve always respected his clarity on Joe & Trump. But I gotta say I love podcast Walsh BIG TIME. The profanity & outrage at the ridiculousness he sees brings a smile to my face & a chuckle in my car as I listen.

[@ede-jomadden8182]

Thanks for an excellent conversation about -- a lot! and loved your music, Joe Walsh. haha.

[@phemykadri9487]

So looking forward to this conversation

[@urkiddingme6254]

I'm old, but I'm still learning how to argue but not hold a grudge afterward, but be willing to come back to argue another day, still as friends. It's educational watching the two of you do exactly that. It is not an easy skill to learn.

[@louisemccoy9410]

Biden is answering Trumps' challenge for "any time, any place" !

[@KM-pm6qe]

@Joe Walsh, here’s an argument for you. An 18-year old in the military is under very strict discipline. That same 18-year-old at home has no oversight, no supervision over how they would use a gun. Drawing an equivalence between the two is not logical. If you see this, thanks for reading this comment, and it would “make my day” (in the best way) if you replied. I’m heartened by the humility and honesty you and Tim Miller are modeling. I hope we all can get back to civility again soon.

[@meladeybras659]

Cars require registration. Why don't guns?

[@user-df5oi8kt8z]

Orange flavor cool aid. That's what the Republicans drink!

[@tdsollog]

I’m a SF-86 employee. If I had done the things Trump did, I would’ve been fired and sitting in jail for the rest of my life.

[@FullmetalSP1]

I am absolutely sure that 18 year olds that join the military to die in war are given training and certification, and I am positive that..say, the army, keep records and track where the guns are that they give out to recruits.

[@richardvickrey4786]

To Joe Walsh: As a lfelong Democrat, I was not aware of you "back in the day". However, with this episode of The Bulwark, I'm a fan! And for Tim, great work as always. Thanks guys. 💙

[@kristinchristopherson4878]

Biden DID tell Netanyahu privately. Netanyahu bears the responsibility for this disaster, not the whole of the Israeli people, so Biden’s response is measured, appropriate, and wise. Most Americans, those who survived Trump” 's COVID response, would be horrified to hear that the entire nation would be accountable for Trump.

[@stevendurrant1724]

Joe W is majorly overlooking that this way bigger than I/P. The effort behind the scenes to prevent a regional war has been gargantuan.

[@susansellars3869]

Wrong, prison is the only suitable place where he should be!

[@brendanobern5535]

Thanks Tim. You and Joe Walsh said it. Existential threat; no choice. (Bernie supporter).

[@kristinchristopherson4878]

This discussion was a breath of fresh air. Preach! Vote Blue!

[@Sunmoon-gj9gy]

Everyone is dillusional, Trump will not show up 😮

[@randibgood]

He'll come up with some kind of excuse.

[@deerobins9086]

Like he's got a rally where there will be 1,000,000 suckers. 😂😂😂😂

[@Harry-hq8fi]

Great interview. Consider making it a weekly event. Call it “The Sane Conservatives”

[@GmaMom]

Tim, you are my favorite person!!❤. Thank you for all you do!👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@tpiety]

Bibi NEVER would step down. He NEEDS this war to stay in power.

[@vaughnbode1420]

Attacking Trump before a verdict might cause a mistrial.

[@thehoaofcoronadoplace2801]

I am a Dem and I so appreciate what you guys are doing to save our democracy.

[@shaunaurban6982]

This was a very nice conversation & it warms my dark liberal heart, that Mr. Walsh has turned out to be such a nice man. He used to be on my list of worst, bt his turnaround is really refreshing. Tim, you're always awesome & from Colorado & I just love you. Trump cannot be president again or he'll destroy everything. I wish more ppl understood this, it's not that hard to figure out, he shows us who he is every day. Keep up the good work, both of you are very needed!

[@barrymackaben6534]

Joe Walsh calls the situation perfectly

[@frantremblay1630]

We don't let all 18 year-olds fight for our country, only the ones that meet the requirements for service and that volunteer. Part of the requirements for service, both getting in and staying in, is essentially proving that you're not a risk for being given a weapon. Maybe if you meet those requirements, even if you're not in the service, you'd be allowed to purchase/possess those weapons, but not just any 18yo.

[@Maevelikeschampagne]

eagle scouts and military. otherwise 28 when the brain has fully matured

[@RandineGH]

Great conversation, Tim and Joe!!! Thank you!

[@suzanneyoung9925]

As a Democrat, i so appreciate your conversation with respect and willingness to discusss contradictory, yet often more similar, issues. You both are wonderful human beingings. Please know that there is more that joins us than divides us. Lets focus on that. Thank you for your leadership in this.

[@denisefrenette1928]

Closet door closed, bed made next presentation. 😉 Thxs for what you're doing. Let's keep democracy running in the U.S.