Defendant Pamela Bordeaux's Testimony & Closing Arguments: Protective Grandmother Murder Trial

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00:00:00 Protective Grandmother Murder Trial 00:03:54 Defendant Pamela Bordeaux's Testimony 00:07:44 Judge Gives Jury Instructions 00:18:03 Closing Arguments: State 01:02:42 Closing Arguments: Defense #CourtTV - What do YOU think? MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/news/nv-v-pamela-bordeaux-protective-grandmother-murder-trial/?

[@Dragonpaws1]

She over-killed an innocent man. That she hated him is no excuse.

[@maryr4617]

Defense closing has to be the worst yet! He sounds like he’s out of breath and just trying to get through it as quick as he can, not looking good for the defendant!

[@Fee212]

She needs prison for a long, long time. She's unstable and, therefore, must not be alone with her grandchild again. 😠

[@wolfpecker5710]

Yeah I definitely bought her story when I first heard about it, but the more I learned about the case the more I realized it was definitely premeditated murder.

[@basicallyno1722]

Self-defense as an ex-cop and she shoots the guy 10 times? Such a liar. She’s pissed he wanted more time.

[@genkestrel7254]

00:04:30 If someone's descending down upon you on a staircase, their head is not going to be tilted back as if they're looking up. I think she realises this too...

[@donna-leeking9014]

Lordie, how on earth can the Jury keep up with Judges instructions? She is reading in a summary way, in a hurried manner.. Her decision to proceed with the oration ata rapid speed is disrespectful to the victims' loved ones and Jury. what a mess!!!

[@lifesabeach8133]

The reading of the instructions is likely just a formality and for court record. I'm sure the jury has received the instructions in writing to read in it's entirety. The judge is using the taxpayer's time wisely.

[@Hunee-]

I came to say the same thing. It must be a reading contest without the goal of the jury to comprehend the charges. Poor court reporter.

[@Swansong321]

I agree..but they'll probably be getting a copy of instructions too

[@allysonogston522]

LoL, is this judge on crack or what? 😅

[@surpriseimblack]

It was fast forward

[@Bondgirl73]

I hope she’s found guilty.

[@PhyllisMolini]

If he was upset that his child mother was having a baby by his Boss Ex Boss. why attack the grandmother. and not the Ex? he was so mad that he did this on his visitation with his son and had a court date with in a week for more custody. which would go against his. MAKES NO SENSE. she did not want him in his son life

[@joemandarino115]

Pamela's daughter is married to HER boss, not Sean's old boss. They have been married since 2016.

[@dylan-n702]

@@joemandarino115 she married her boss? lol they got it wrong on court then because someone said it was Sean’s boss (and I can’t remember if it was the prosecution or defense) . And it wasn’t corrected or anything

[@caracunningham9210]

What is mind boggling is the surviving parent will be allowed to keep the child/ern. The victims family will not get to see them unless or until the child seeks them out. And do we really believe the child will be given the truth? All you have to do is look at the Dan Markel case.

[@surpriseimblack]

That child (Pam daughter) did nothing wrong. The daughter had the custody to begin with, Right?

[@devenbergeron155]

Can’t hear the defense at all

[@ChristinaNJFree]

Why is the judge speeding through the reading? Who can keep up ?

[@Fee212]

WHAT IS THE THINKING BEHIND THE JUDGE READING JURY INSTRUCTIONS AT THAT SPEED? 😮 All the words are running into each other. 😮

[@rydenbowen253]

If I were a juror, I’d object. The judge is reading way too fast.

[@lifesabeach8133]

The reading of the instructions is likely just a formality and for court record. I'm sure the jury has received the instructions in writing to read in it's entirety. The judge is using the taxpayer's time wisely.

[@guadalupelazar2384]

Judge reading so fast face can someone politely ask her to slow downi never seen judge read that fast jesus christ

[@PineBaskets]

Sounds like an auctioneer fgs

[@surpriseimblack]

It was fast forward

[@dennisl1059]

why would he attack her knowing she has a gun. I think he got under her skin and that custody info was the last straw.

[@loyalties41]

You don’t get in the middle of their stuff and take matters into your own hands. She hit this man first so she can use deadly force! How many times you’ve hit this man and he just stand there? Lock her up! She had many chances to use less force! Girl bye! You’ve been wanting to do this!! Premeditated case closed jail her!!

[@nicoles8176]

My son's father didn't want anything to do with my son for the first 11 years. I would have given anything for my son to have a father who even wants to visit him. I don't understand why so many couples are fighting about it. Please get along for the children. Father has the right too.

[@MistressOnyaCox]

She controls freak n didn't like he was gonna start to get control eventually she be unneeded 😮 MURDER

[@cindyb9903]

Dang, that judge is talking FAST!! That’s a bit much!! Can barely understand what she’s saying!!!!

[@aizencollier6285]

The Worst defense closing argument since Hannah Payne attorney😂😂

[@jalencruz5980]

Her daughter needs to be charged next. She could’ve easily stopped it

[@PhyllisMolini]

She’s GUILTY

[@guadalupelazar2384]

Please judge kinda slow down little bit

[@peach1267]

That judge reading that fast... can't understand a word or anything she is saying. What a dope she is

[@lifesabeach8133]

The reading of the instructions is likely just a formality and for court record. I'm sure the jury has received the instructions in writing to read in it's entirety. The judge is using the taxpayer's time wisely.

[@surpriseimblack]

​@@lifesabeach8133 False. You are what's wrong with society. Why everything is digitized. Why everything needs to be faster but more impoverished. Why young people go on tik Tok instead of Facebook. Why people don't read books anymore. Why they're addicted to instant gratification. Why people need a new car every year and the latest iPhone every year. Yeah let's just standardized everything and you know what let's just automate judges. You know it's all formulaic anyways. You know what we should do? I heard Chad GPT 5 can simulate juries as well. Let's just do that, it'll be faster...

[@DeboritaMarks-rn3vk]

I wouldn’t want him as my attorney

[@ivanvillamil2764]

Wow this is the first judge that reads jury instructions so fast to keep up and usually the judges explain if you don’t find the murder doesn’t meet this criteria then you go through this and that. I bet is going to cause confusion and long deliberations and questions for clarification. I may have to watch the whole trial back . Now I understand why people were saying so many negative reviews and comments because is unreal and they will have to read it all over again.

[@lifesabeach8133]

The reading of the instructions is likely just a formality and for court record. I'm sure the jury has received the instructions in writing to read in it's entirety. The judge is using the taxpayer's time wisely.

[@chilenitaprotrump]

I did not catch this trial but ... oh boy, I am a grandmother and would never, ever think of offing my son in law ever.

[@Bodiddly55]

Court TV didn't follow this online very well. TV did. Absolutely zero emotion from her after the guilty of first degree murder was read. Shows what a callous despicable person she is, and she was in law enforcement.

[@lifesabeach8133]

The prosecutors closing arguments were succinct, factual and drama free. Easy for the jury to understand and process. The defense's closing was overly dramatic, acted out like a bad play, poorly spoken (hard to hear) and some of what the attorney said actually worked in favour of the prosecution. Not having followed the whole trial, based solely on the closing arguments (which is like a summary of the most important arguments in each side's case).... I would vote guilty. Depending on the reality of the situation, without condoning violence or murder as a solution to anything... if I were a grandmother and I felt a true threat that could be threatening to my daughter and grandchild, I would consider the trade off of being in jail for the rest of my life to be a reasonable trade off to ensure their safely of that threat.

[@wolfpecker5710]

Prosecutors definitely swayed me on this one.

[@mjdelaney1]

Too many breaks and interruptions. Please please please, do the analysis afterwards. It makes it unwatchable. Don't underestimate your viewers - please please please.

[@sandeedriver1941]

Poor jurors! Having to sit and listen to that defendant's council in closing arguments.....good grief! So monotone and boring. Good bless those jurors.

[@cassandra3862]

The Judge is gabbling through the instructions as if she is late for her lunch. Ridiculous.

[@hersheyssmith2104]

That judge is a joke! What kind of reading is that? My teacher won’t even allow me to read like that bwahaha

[@Crimson11100]

I thought I was too slow to follow her 😅

[@dylan-n702]

You have obviously never been to court. She has to read the jury instruction like that in court, but it's very long and tedious and the jury goes back over the instruction when they go back for deliberation. That's why she reads it that fast. It's a formality and she's trying to get it done as quickly as possible to get on with deliberation. I would know because I was actually there and what they don't show in the video is her explaining why she is reading it quickly.

[@surpriseimblack]

It was sped up...

[@dylan-n702]

@@surpriseimblack No... it isn't. I was there. She read it that quickly on purpose because they already have the jury instruction printed out for all of them and she explained in court as to why she had to read it and that explained why she read it so quickly.

[@surpriseimblack]

@@dylan-n702 Wait, you were there? That's pretty cool. Are you a journalist..

[@SandyBanks-vk5dl]

Attitude of defendant appears to be “above the law”, nose elevated, not contrite, no sense of regret for what she did… that will work against her.

[@happyfacespider]

The guy in the back with the glasses is struggling to hold his laughter in during the defense’s closing argument 😂

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

Could the defense appeal on the way the judge is reading the instructions? 🤔 I mean those are pretty important.

[@PatriciaRodriguez-wo1fs]

Guilty of 1st degree murder. No surprise

[@sherrisRN]

Guilty!

[@patpulfer5596]

I had to slow down the playback speed to understand a word of what the judge was saying. The jury doesn’t have that luxury.

[@darklorddisco]

Jury instructions are written out for the jurors as well

[@annemontanaro3795]

Did her ex-son-in-law have a history of violent behavior?

[@jeromeblackmon2329]

No he used drugs and had a weird porn habit but he wasn’t violent

[@myrnasanjose7985]

⁠@@jeromeblackmon2329Yes, maybe that’s the reason why she wants to protect the child..from a drug abuser that may harm the child which is 100% possible and his porno habit is a deadly combination!

[@mischr13]

@@jeromeblackmon2329 "weird porn habit"? uh, how weird?

[@jeromeblackmon2329]

@@mischr13 animal and “family stuff” weird like real inappropriate but not 10 shots over

[@mischr13]

@@jeromeblackmon2329 animal? like furry?? pls say furry 😭

[@yankeehank1897]

This is the first time I am hearing of this case, right? The defense attorney is lame, right? He can't help ending each sentence or pausing between sentences with "right", right? 🙂

[@diffizzle8630]

😂😂

[@TheWallacePlace]

The grandmother look like she's trying out for a Michael Jackson Thriller video . She nailed it with the head nod. 😂😂😂😅

[@darklorddisco]

A hee heeee

[@debbiespilotro8338]

The Judge needs to realize that yes she may have read these instructions a thousand times. The jury etc has probably never heard them. Slooow down a bit Judge😊😮

[@cassandra3862]

Why would she be able to have handcuffs on her person?

[@simaturna9765]

And she must be banned forever from seeing her grandson

[@wroffinwroffer6713]

How can the jurors understand the instructions when they are read at lightning speed. She must need a break. Too much coffee. 😮😮😮😮😮

[@allysonogston522]

Coffee? 😅😅😅

[@basicallyno1722]

Maybe she had to use the bathroom after all that coffee

[@hersheyssmith2104]

Obviously it was a premeditated murder! She planned that because she thought she could lose the custody of her grandchild

[@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls]

OMG is the judge in a speed reading competition? Well, she wins but the jury loses any understanding of their options in terms of the charges..... Completely ridiculous. 😮😮

[@John-kv7jo]

She's cooked.

[@jaej1120]

Both parties should've agreed to visitation at the Police Station.

[@edjeep]

before you do avoid doing a crime. weigh out the consequeces such as lawyer costs, lost of previledges, jail time, shame etc. and best of all stay away from owning a gun if you are a loose cannon.

[@debbiebickerstaff7235]

Where is her testimony??

[@Julie-jr9sf]

Has a verdict come in yet? Cant find it.

[@nicoles8176]

Oh my God , what is wrong with this judge with the way she reads the instructions? How does anyone understand it?

[@fancykitty7245]

Judge talking so fast 😮

[@robertshepherd3832]

Absolutely disgusting that these men comment negatively towards the victim because he was only allowed 1 hour a week of visitation. These disgusting lawyers should know how punitive family law is towards many fathers. The fact that this show uses 'protective grandmother' in the title is another con. Shame on them. Their opinions are a disgrace when they're sympathetic towards this murderous creature and her defence.

[@hardwired8084]

That Defendant is a liar, lies look a certain way and the truth does too. Otherwise we would not even be able to believe or doubt!

[@kaylas_diaries5058]

Why can’t yall be this way with the karen reed trial @courttv

[@jennifergannuscio6086]

FTP!!!!! PERIOD!!!

[@LisaMarieLove1]

This judge talks way to fast

[@drcarlsberg3658]

I’m certainly not supporting this woman in anyway. As a trained ‘professional instructor’ that has 25+ years of training police in more than half a dozen countries- police officers are trained to shoot until the threat is terminated. Not that is right in today’s climate- but it certainly was when this woman was trained to engage in deadly force.

[@Crimson11100]

The prosecutor has to stop saying 'if you have common sense'. It's the jurors decision, seems a bit condescending.

[@surpriseimblack]

Alot of people have a crush on that judge..

[@sandeeclingerman2992]

He looks like Stefan Sterns!!!

[@myrnasanjose7985]

The Judge’s reading is useless! Quit reading it’s annoying!

[@Julie-jr9sf]

Where is the verdict?

[@funkfunkable]

Can that Judge talk any faster?😮

[@surpriseimblack]

Of course she gets with their boss...

[@edjeep]

trust no retired cop! they get crazy with age

[@dollydiaz5566]

Everyone has a hard opinion on this Lady, because no one puts their own family in place , or walks on her shoes , I don’t want any children or grandchildren of mine going through the risk of being dealing with a sick dirty mind like that Guy had !!

[@dylan-n702]

Do you just believe everything you hear? Those were all lies. There is no proof for any of it, but what there is proof for is that it was a premeditated murder and that’s why it was simple for the jury. And just because someone has a porn addiction means they deserve to die? He wasn’t being accused of rape or being a pedo either but I guess you just believe everything that comes out of a random woman’s mouth. Which cuts it down to two options. Either you were dropped very hard on your head repeatedly as an infant, or you know Pamela.

[@asteward5586]

Seems to be predominantly female judges in Vegas

[@mortalclown3812]

A cool liar and a colder killer.

[@SoulforSale]

She better rot in prison

[@surpriseimblack]

That is the Tupac murderer’s judge...

[@surpriseimblack]

This prosecutors arguments are garbage. The type of arguments they teach you how to make in law school. Well she's 5'2 but she was allowed to be a police officer. Therefore she loses her right to be afraid of a 6 ft 2 guy. You don't know if she has PTSD. You don't know if she feels scared In the fact that she's armed to the teeth can work both ways. Why is she feel like she needs to be that protected all the time? Is it because she's 5'2 and 60 years old? She was a detective in the police department that's totally different from doing road patrol for 30 years. And she was in the military like 40 years ago. You're allowed to be wrong when using self-defense. But you have to be in reasonable fear of your life. So the keyword is reasonable. It's a objectively subjective standard. What would a reasonable person of sound mind do knowing the facts that you had at the time if they were in your subjective shoes.. That's why so many police cases are not guilty. If they know that a murder took place and you're waving around a fake gun they are allowed to fire their weapon. If an assailant has what looks like a knife, and they charge at officers after being commanded to drop the item. The police can still be found not guilty because it's through a subjective standard of what they think is happening. You don't have to be right. But it's the jury that will decide the truth and the facts..

[@surpriseimblack]

Who's more guilty Howie Mandel or PB ?

[@surpriseimblack]

The prosecutor is such a Karen. Imagine her like coming at you like this after a long day of work... Obviously, the defendant deserves it but...

[@kjones7561]

I see she was found guilty. Well, if she is, I believe she honestly feared this father of her grandchildren was abusing them and perhaps they did quarrel and he lunged at her. That is possible. She fired the gun and was in police mode. Sad case. I wish it could have been handled differently.

[@darklorddisco]

A jury disagreed with you

[@surpriseimblack]

Pamela is low-key (↓) kinda bad.. Like forreal. I might be with the persuasion...🤦🏾‍♂️

[@clareoconnor5648]

Good on her’ protecting her family at all costs ‘

[@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls]

Yeah, go to jail for life. Great idea. IMO daughter is better off without her mum in her and her children's lives - carrying a gun, pepper spray and handcuffs with her around the house. Ridiculous behaviour and now she's paying.

[@darklorddisco]

How’s that working out for you

[@dylan-n702]

She wasn’t protecting anyone… I love how you believe her lies without any evidence whatsoever, but don’t believe the actual facts that are being presented 😂 he was never a danger to her and never attacked her. The evidence completely contradicts her version of events

[@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls]

@@dylan-n702 completely agree.

[@mishuk5043]

That judge is impossible to listen to, @courttv

[@CourtTV]

there were audio issues with the court transmission that day.

[@michaelnone5854]

Father wanted more time with his child so Grandpa killed him. She better not get a not guilty verdict. She is guilty and will pay for being a murderer !

[@Mags7760]

Don't you mean grandma?😊

[@michaelnone5854]

@@Mags7760 yes, I meant Grandma.

[@someonezmom]

Her lawyer looks like he starred in *The Goonies* _Hey you guyyysss_ sorry, not sorry