LIVE: MA v. Karen Read Murder Retrial - Dog Bite Expert Daubert Hearing

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00:00:00 Karen Read Murder Retrial: Daubert Hearing 00:10:19 Karen Read Enters Courtroom 00:18:13 Cross: Dr. Marie Russell, Expert Testimony - Dog Bite 02:38:41 Back in Court 05:12:01 ReDirect: Dr. Marie Russell, Expert Testimony - Dog Bite 06:00:43 ReCross: Dr. Marie Russell, Expert Testimony - Dog Bite 06:22:16 Closing Arguments 06:22:35 Commonwealth Closing Argument by Special Prosecutor Hank Brennan 06:43:06 Defense Closing Argument by Robert Alessi #CourtTV - What do YOU think? Catch up on MA v. #KarenRead HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?

[@msgwen7264]

@@CourtTV good evening

[@beverleykeller5950]

Should of been a NEW Judge for this second one!!

[@animallovefest143]

I agree! I was surprised when she walked in... crazy after how the first trial went.

[@terrybunsey8015]

It’s not about the Judge (Karen Read Fans) it’s about John’s death and those are NOT DOG BITES, it’s called reaching when you can’t even remember what happened to your fiancée

[@guesswho5239]

@@terrybunsey8015 Its about the two independent engineers that found it impossible for John to have been hit by a car. Dog bites are still on the menu. The dog bit so many people they had to either put it down or rehome it to the grave yard. Why did they try to hide that fact? Gee I wonder.

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

@@guesswho5239did you didnt hear that a mold was taken of Chloe’s teeth? There is one and she is alive. Poor Chloe taking the blame for this cold spoiled, entitled brat.

[@guesswho5239]

@@HopeDavis-gw6ul Why would they take a mold of dog that no longer exists? News to be but ive not payed attention to this since first trial. The dog did bite people they tried to cover that up, they had a hard time getting the proof. Put people in the hospital not just a nibble.

[@Michaelcollin-wu2ng]

Hank Brennan is a surgeon. He walked the doctor right into admitting that she didn’t actually complete any differential diagnosis or analysis. He got her to admit she didn’t know there was taillight fragment on the clothing, didn’t know how many pieces of taillight, didn’t know all this other information… then asked whether her conclusion or opinion would change now that she has this information… And she walked right into it and said no my opinion doesn’t change…. She disqualified herself right there . That was amazing .

[@annebosworth7048]

No she didn't...she has more experience than everyone else put together not just on dog bites but on all injuries..

[@Brett323]

@@Michaelcollin-wu2ng lol cope harder. this comment reads like copy pasta. how can someone be so delusional? Anonymous or not you have to live with yourself, the person who apparently thinks that way haha

[@Piat65]

@@annebosworth7048 She very well may have that, but that’s not what she brought to the stand

[@Michaelcollin-wu2ng]

@@annebosworth7048listen she had a long and respectable career as an emergency medicine doctor… no one is taking that away from her. But that does not make her an expert in forensic veterinary odontology. Her method for determining the cause of the injuries to the arm and her opinion that it’s conclusively dog bites is that she treated people for dog bites as an ER doctor. She cannot point to any other methodology and that simply falls short of the standard required. We use ER doctors all the time in criminal cases for their expert opinions… testifying about ketoacidosis and its symptoms when a diabetic defendant is charged with impaired driving for example . But when it comes to bite mark opinions board certified forensic odontologists are used. You need to ask yourself why wouldn’t the defense hire a forensic odontologists when the cause of the injury is wholly material to their defense …. The answer is because no forensic odontologists would ever agree these are dog bite wounds .

[@LoveFree333]

Hank Brennan is a rat who knows he is wrong, so he has to fight dirty. Also, sneakers don't come off in side swipes. I wouldn't let Hank near me.

[@MrPotterb33]

"I don't know if I'd wanna get close to Chloe" lol

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

She’s an idiot, doesn’t know this poor dog.

[@amy_boston]

Whether Chloe, a rabid raccoon, a bear or any other wild animal bit John, doesn’t matter. What matters is that these deep gauges, all the way up and down, John’s arm were impossible to do with a broken plastic tail light. You can’t put a square peg into a circle. This is 1st grade physics.

[@SA-tx2kl]

If that’s the case perhaps the defense should have hired a 1st grade physics expert.

[@joanmorgan2094]

AMEN!!!!

[@amy_boston]

@@SA-tx2kl That’s not a bad idea! Maybe that would have helped hit home a little easier and faster for them. Lol. They clearly didn’t understand when Daniel Wolfe, the Director of Accident Reconstructionist at ARCCA, stated that “the broken taillight was inconsistent with striking a human head or arm.” So, yes, maybe a 1st grader could dumb it down for them. The real question is….Why did this incompetent (or corrupt) police force find a dead body on a front lawn of a home and not go inside to investigate the house?! I guarantee you, it would have been case closed, if they did. And, they knew that.

[@mtupaj6706]

Your absolutely right. I just hope they don't allow that circus 🎪 in front of the court house.

[@drmikeforcynthiasullivan1457]

Former vet tech..these are NOT from a dog bite. The pressure of a bite would cause severe bruising which isnt there. 2. There would be clear punctures from top set and set from bottom.

[@Spongebobisha-r3l]

Looks like scratches

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@drmikeforcynthiasullivan1457 Thank you

[@rossi5839]

If the bite had very little pressure there wouldn't be bruises and if the bite were separated by layers of clothing there wouldn't be punctures. These are identical to superficial animal bites. I think they contained pig dna too, which tail lights would be an unlikely contributors.

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

I hope the judge won’t be one sided again

[@alikat1053]

For real! She gave the defense everything they asked for.🙄🙄

[@donnarega1249]

She cannot be one sided if she is following the law as to what she can and cannot allow, it is indiscriminate, whether she likes you or not, thinks she's guilty or not. She may not have the persona or style widely admired but she is competent.

[@alikat1053]

@@donnarega1249 Not true. Judges do things their way all the damn time. Bev has leaned towards the defense because she is trying to avoid appeals. If Karen Read gets away with this, I pray her life is miserable and she is broke!

[@rossi5839]

​@donnarega1249 She did not come across as unbiased, especially during deliberation and during the trial she clearly favored the state.

[@alikat1053]

@rossi5839 I truly felt she favored the defense! My God she gave them everything they wanted, FFS! YOU are the biased one.

[@jojob841]

What kind of expert doesn’t want to look at all the evidence? She’s definitely getting paid by the defense!

[@GillyMcGillyre]

🤦‍♀️

[@MarkRick-o4b]

Judge Bias should be removed from the case! It’s very obvious she is one sided and not fair!

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Exactly, badgering a professional on the stand with no real base

[@terrybunsey8015]

Because it’s not going your way 🙄

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@terrybunsey8015 hahaha is this meant to be an assumption on which way the court case is going? The prosecution is desperate and the judge showing complete biased behaviour (all founded specifically when Karen was not guilty of murder or of leaving the scene of a deadly accident, deadlocked on manslaughter charge) It’s not about whose way this is going, the judge is not and has not acted partially… I watched from Australia. The threads of internet “guilty” verdicts from a very small few, seem to be lacking any substance

[@11B3P]

It’s too bad the policeman were allowed to get rid of their phones because gosh it sure would’ve been nice to see what they had been chatting about. ATF I thought they were some of the top notch investigators?

[@tracyday2871]

@@11B3P all of the investigators on this case were a joke. Total embarrassment for Norfolk county.

[@wildcatbaits]

Would have been great to see KRs phone also … the 1 that disappeared to Fl when a warrant was issued for it !! It works both ways … would have been great to see dad & moms phone ( but no ) AJ would have got them if tables were turned … KR is going down this time & they know it for killing John ! Thank God !

[@marycasey9198]

putting evidence in solo cups and dirty grocery bags lol

[@ItIsAmare]

Why she don't look sad? I mean, your boyfriend died. You can tell when someone is suffering and I been looking at the victim's mom and Karen and their behavior when loosing someone do not match. Mom from the beginning looked very sad. Karen seems to smirk, laugh, smile, ect.. but i have not yet seen her show any sadness over her dead boyfriend.

[@izabela1961]

She knows she is guilty so she is playing strong to get away with this.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@@ItIsAmare she is rather robotish. Only emotion I've seen is when she goes out and faces her supporters

[@Tinks82]

It also happened three years ago. Is she not crying enough for you?

[@annebosworth7048]

People love to hate her so it wouldn't what she did...on the day she was hysterical..

[@sherrycostonde]

@@Tinks82she wasn’t even able to properly grieve. She was wrongly accused

[@catme13]

What an utter disaster,...she has no qualifications to prove that these marks comes from a dog. It was painful to watch!

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

Wrong.

[@SA-tx2kl]

I felt sorry for her. She was so excited about dog bites she was so tunnel vision. And the defense set her up. They didn’t give her all the information they had.

[@catme13]

@@SA-tx2kl that's another way to think about it..

[@GillyMcGillyre]

@@catme13 the most qualified actually. Did you see her CV?

[@religiohominilupus5259]

​@@SA-tx2klShe worked as a pathologist. No capable pathologist would conduct an autopsy without getting info on the circumstances surrounding a death. If she didn't automatically get the facts, she should've asked for them.

[@GRMLS5]

So the defense's case is...John O’Keefe drooped off by Karen Reed, walks into the house, and gets attacked by the dog, so the people in the house club him over the head to save the dog, dump him in the snow, they break Karen's tail light, put John's DNA on it, then put the pieces of tail light on his cloths & disappears the dog DNA all before dawn in the cold & snow? Also, the expert tells how hypothermia probably explains the loss of his shoe on the road...he became conscious, took off his shoe put it on the road, and then laid back down in the snow although there were houses he could have got to?

[@catme13]

People are so dumb, they actually believe this ,I don't know if it has to do that they are Americans? I mean, they voted Trump into office once again...somethings not right with these people!

[@11B3P]

@@GRMLS5 yes kind of, then all the police got rid of their phones. None of the people at the house where the policeman was killed came outside. They were policeman as well. There were emergency vehicles in their front yard and they stayed home. They got rid of their dogan actual ATF agent decided to turn his phone in. They reverse the footage in the sallyport so yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus.

[@Woefman911]

No dna on taillight idiot amongst your other claims you been duped Brennan is lieing

[@jojob841]

lol yup. This is what they want us to believe. Oh and don’t forget the homeowner is a Boston cop so of course he suggested just putting him on his front lawn 😂

[@11B3P]

@ you mean the same Boston cop who didn’t come outside as all the emergency vehicles were out there you know the same Boston cop who got rid of his phone the same Boston cop who has a son who was a little bit of a loose cannon, the same Boston cop whose friend the ATF agent got rid of his phoneand probably sort of the same group of people who would collect evidence in solo cups yeah I think that one

[@mycat1064]

The tail light was not shattered at 34 Fairview the night John was murdered in that house. The tail light was shattered in the Sallyport.

[@terrybunsey8015]

Because you were there, omg

[@lorettakandrot4180]

1000th %

[@RETROMV]

The tail light already had a huge piece missing way before the Sallyport. You can clearly see it on the dash cam when Creepy Karen had her Lexus parked in John's driveway earlier that day. This conspiracy theory is so old already!!!!

[@templeyoung2423]

Dr. Russell seems like the type to bluff her way through life. Unconvincingly

[@nashuasmith3931]

Her 16 years of college definitely makes her very suspicious. She bluffed her way into being the first female police officer in Malden Ma. & then bluffed her way into MIT & UMass medical to become a doctor. Her 27 years experience as an emergency room doctor & then a forensic pathologist & director for the LA county prison system is definitely suspect as well. She bluffed it ALL!

[@terrybunsey8015]

She doesn’t want to examine or mold the teeth because it would prove that they’re NOT DOG BITES!!! Karen is more worried about her appearance than anything else and it’s making me sick to my stomach for the sake of the fact that she knows what happened

[@sharonparker8324]

The defence was offered the dog when the trial first started. But its too risky to their case if they are wrong about it being bites. Im glad Prosecutor has finally done testing.

[@GillyMcGillyre]

@@terrybunsey8015 that's not how that works. Garrett Wang check him out.

[@GillyMcGillyre]

@@sharonparker8324 the defense was not offered any dog but the prosecution likes to make things up.

[@sharonparker8324]

It was stated on the stand that Chloe was offered and the defence didnt dispute it.

[@joanmorgan2094]

So that’s the reason the Prosecutor should bring in their expert to prove those are dog bites PERIOD…

[@LornaSpicer]

Where there any dog prints at the scene of the crime!? No, then there you go with this expert!

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

Good point👍

[@snowwhite7571]

It was snowing 🤷‍♀️

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@@snowwhite7571 that's what I thought. We've seen the videos. Horrible storm.

[@11B3P]

You mean, after all the cops had walked over the snow, also after none of the people that were in the house came out to inquire what was going on. Do you mean after that one cop was talking about something called a balloon knot seriously

[@Tinks82]

It could've happened in the house & if it happened outside, there was a snow storm.

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

I wonder how the other Prosecutor feels about being dumped

[@Ms.truecrimebuff]

Uhm, I think he’s sitting at the same table with this prosecutor? Smh

[@GillyMcGillyre]

@@lorrainedimitrovski5698 a bit deflated

[@mimiity9585]

Guilty or innocent. Karen looks smug, arrogant and mean. Kinda witchy looking.

[@RETROMV]

Indeed very creepy!

[@Elsley12]

The “Joker”.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

So what, she can look anyway she wants. It’s evidence that counts.

[@jendee1260]

which has to do with, what? also, says the uggo with no yt pic.

[@michaelrice80]

This Court has zero credibility

[@gla1224]

Exactly

[@AHedgecliff4977]

With ya!

[@wandarebeca1]

This dog witness could just as well be one of the Karen Read crazies rallying outside the courthouse. Her should've-could've-would've testimony, based on her own "experience ", is laughable. IMO

[@laurenhb2500]

It's fascinating to me that every time I see one of the hearings from this case that Karen read never looks like she takes it seriously like the lawyers do. It's baffling. You can see in their face the seriousness of it all but with her it's just all fun and games and smiles and laughter. This lawyer seems to know more than the expert does on the topic at hand and also a simple Google search of German Shepherd bites and looking at the images will disprove this in less than a minute. Pathognomic definitely does not imply pattern recognition. 😂

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

I haven’t ever seen someone get killed by a tail light ever 🫢

[@elainecox6851]

Never said tail light killed him not funny

[@billydeveraux9112]

KAREN WILL BE FOUND GUILTY THIS TRIAL

[@kimberlyrecoskie3790]

This woman’s testimony is extremely weak. She has seen and treated some dog bites in the ER and then is considered by the defence as an expert witness. She can not even describe dog bite characteristics, and instead stumbles over her words and has trouble articulating medically and scientifically what is asked of her.

[@blakekaveny]

She’s actually been published in multiple medical journals as a dog bite expert. Also she did describe the characteristics but Brennan kept trying to force her to say stuff she wasn’t trying to say

[@kimberlyrecoskie3790]

You would never know by her lack of knowledge and competence on the subject matter. She also cannot reference other journal articles that have researched dog bites, nor can she explain their methodologies and findings. She just tried to reiterate prosecutor Brennan’s naming and description of one of the many articles earlier in his questioning of her. The prosecutor has displayed better knowledge than this witness of the field of research on dog bites.

[@jendee1260]

@@blakekavenythen she shouldn’t be stumbling, now should she?

[@jendee1260]

@@blakekavenyps please seek higher education. 🙏

[@rossi5839]

She is basically the leading world's expert on animal bite analysis

[@drmikeforcynthiasullivan1457]

If i were the prosecutor in this case anythung you say can be used against you would apply and Reads interview with major news outlet would be used and prove that she did it.

[@guesswho5239]

How does that interview prove anything? You must be a toddler dreaming of being something anything. Start by picking up trash on the side of the highway then work your way up like you did before.

[@sameoldsonganddance]

My husband knows absolutely nothing about this trial, and it struck me real funny when he looked at my phone and said wow look at those dog bites! He had no idea what he was referring to or what he was talking about, but BINGO!

[@SA-tx2kl]

Have you been keeping your husband in the basement for 2 years?

[@sameoldsonganddance]

@ lol, no I mean, he didn’t know what I was looking at on my phone and he said wow look at those dog bites.

[@jendee1260]

@@SA-tx2kl 🤡

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@sameoldsonganddance lol okay got it

[@catherinetierney4834]

Wow you’re everywhere … you said this exact statement in so many other videos ..’

[@LoveFree333]

The high school gossip girls sitting behind Karen the whole time

[@Amy-zs8tx]

Yeah you can see their jealousy of Karen! When the brother looks at Karen, his wife always looks at him!! 😂😂😂😂

[@terrybunsey8015]

@@Amy-zs8txyou’re sickening and he’s looking at a liar and a drunken idiot who is trying to take advantage of ppl power instead of owning up to her actions that she CAN’T even remember that night!!!!

[@coxcox7350]

​@@terrybunsey8015Exactly 💯 no one is jealous of that cold hearted thing.

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

@@Amy-zs8txKaren is a killer I highly doubt she could be 😂

[@GRMLS5]

How do you get dog wounds without dog DNA? Hope that question is asked!

[@blakekaveny]

Yes and she answered it. She said theirs multiple ways in which evidence can be tainted to so that the DNA disappears

[@GRMLS5]

@@blakekaveny Yea, I can say that too...there are multiple ways evidence can be tainted so that DNA disappears. Some expert!

[@RobWilson-m1e]

Laying in the snow for hours took dog dna away. Very likely

[@stephb8193]

The snow could have disintegrated it

[@GRMLS5]

@@stephb8193 But not the DNA on the tail light?

[@11B3P]

They’re spending a lot of time, questioning part evidence, but I was led to believe in civics classes that the defense is only required to indicate reasonable doubt?

[@AHedgecliff4977]

I know, spending time on the triggering aspect! You gotta wander why this woman needs to be proven to be “less than” a specialist in her field … I always find that the focus on one area can be an area of concern 😅

[@11B3P]

@ if the facts are on your side, argue, the facts, if not argue the law, if not argue to emotion

[@katbedbury389]

Guilty.

[@Moe-bz6je]

Yeah she's guilty.

[@Moe-bz6je]

She also looks like she really misses John. Nasty person.

[@jendee1260]

FREE KAREN READ!

[@petewoodroffemusic]

Do dogs repeatedly bite a dead or non-moving object without tearing flesh etc??!!

[@darrenlocke5627]

Dude was alive when biten? Died in the hospital, after the MacAlbert butt dialed each other.

[@anitaphuck6651]

@@darrenlocke5627no, he died on scene. He was dead before the hospital but I do believe he was bit inside the house.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@anitaphuck6651he was found I responsive and pronounced dead at hospital

[@rossi5839]

​​@@anitaphuck6651 I think he was still alive in the ambulance

[@daniellethomas2915]

I don’t view this daubert hearing and prosecutions motions as running scared. I view it as they mean business and we need this murderer lock away in prison for killing John O’Keefe.

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

Oh please, this is a shitshow and the world knows it. Corrupt crooked cops, awful bias judge, and inept prosecution. Clowns! 🤡

[@annebosworth7048]

They need proof to lock her away but they don't have any..

[@annebosworth7048]

No evidence to prove she hit him.

[@daniellethomas2915]

@@annebosworth7048that’s laughable

[@jane6989]

I think this expert will be allowed to testify, but the prosecution needs to make it clear this is just her theory, not facts.

[@jax6588]

It’s about a cop they won’t let it go if it was anyone else the wouldn’t give a sht

[@maimurbach9]

Murder is murder

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

Ikr?? It's a little redic

[@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609]

Besides, they are trying to frame an INOCENT.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609 maybe maybe not. Too much missing. Things often will look one-way and end up being something totally different. I try and look at it from every view. TRUTH. That's what I'm after. 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@AC-gu7rg]

You bet your ass if this was a regular citizen , they wouldn't give a damned !

[@Kay-ez4uf]

Court tv- Officer O Keefe in MA Trial Many said he didn not make it into the after party Died fr dog attack and trauma in the cold weather Many said Officer did not make it in the house party Owner said dog disappeared / - sold So where is the dog? Find that dog Need more forensic on that dog Theirs never checked out

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Handy solutions … just remove evidence. Dog,(gone) phones (gone). Sold out judge (yes) So hard to win even with all this back up. Why why why haven’t the prosecution walked out on top?? This court is completely dirty and corrupt

[@virginalopez7142]

How can you people think she innocent. Yes the detective made a mistake. but they did not planned this, and they did not cover up. She ran him over, but she was angry with him. but I think is was, A accident but she leave him to die. she guilty! the mistake she did. ,

[@SA-tx2kl]

I agree. She should take a plea. It will ease her conscience.

[@jojob841]

And she’s the only one with a broken taillight

[@jendee1260]

how can you people be so clueless? are you paying attention, like, at all?

[@MEMELIFEBABY]

A sharp object does not leave abrasions on the skin, now, a dull object like a K-9 incisor will leave abrasions like that on the skin. No one in the history of getting cut by glass has had injuries like that.

[@HeyyyRobyn]

Hank is so goooooooood! Justice for John!

[@sandrah0330]

@HeyyyRobyn - He was on the ball! Alan J has met his match!

[@priscillamoscatt]

I don't think they're dog bites, and this doctor, she's no expert. She just wants to give an option like im giving mine. If we're going with animal bites I can see the injuries being caused by passing scavenger animals, finding him laying unconscious in the snow.

[@GillyMcGillyre]

@@priscillamoscatt a scavenger animal? Look at scavenger animal bites, look at dog bites look at them and look at officer Johns arm. She did case studies and peer reviewed studies on dog bites. She has been qualified as an expert hundreds of times in federal & state courts.

[@rossi5839]

She's one of the most knowledgeable animal bite analysis experts in America

[@priscillamoscatt]

@rossi5839 hmmmm. because she said so? I've listened to at least 3 'experts' who were interviewed in regards to this case, and they offered more analysis in the 5 minutes of air time they were given, than the hours of testimony she did. It really doesn't matter what any of us think at the end of the day. I'll look forward to watching it all play out in court.

[@alikat1053]

Uh oh Karen! You're in trouble!😂😂😂😂

[@nicolap4765]

Judge is biased in my opinion. I think it’s pretty obvious too!

[@Justice4m.tthewN0rth]

Hank Brennan is the GOAT. He even got the defense expert witness to admit she hit him with the car in reverse😂 what are we even doing here

[@11B3P]

I’m not quite clear who you’re talking about, but the expert witness has given so much credence to the to the level of reasonable doubt the policeman did nothing to contact the people in the home. The policeman got rid of their phones. The policeman sent to investigate clearly had already determined that she was guilty, the evidence was collected poorly and in some cases actually can be considered to be discredited because of the actions of the police. I don’t know what goat you’re talking about.

[@Benzsportspicks_CriminalMedia]

What are you talking about those wounds were from Kloey the dog and she NEVER WAVERED from saying those wounds on John’s arm was from a Dog Bite period !! Oh and BTW the reason we are here is so the State of Massachusetts can waste more money trying to Prosecute an Innocent woman “ Karen Read “ she is Innocent , the Retired Police Family of Criminals and Brian Higgins accidentally killed John O’Keefe NOT KAREN READ !!!

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@11B3Pagree

[@annebosworth7048]

What witness made her admit it..

[@LAfather]

@@Justice4m.tthewN0rth hope theres no justice for your matt 😂😂✌🏾

[@Ms.truecrimebuff]

I’m liking this prosecutor!

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

That makes you a moron.

[@nuradary-c8d]

I hope she wakes up the jury...

[@greg1mcintosh844]

Damn ... So frustrating: explain yourself lady you're almost there why can't you say the pattern is pairing of the canines. Why can't you say all the scars/abrasions are caused by teeth because you completely confound everything when you bring in the claws and you lose your credibility by including claws. Ffs drop the claw scratches. It's the PAIRING of the CANINES that's key. And I the fact they vary in distance between them is due to differences in relative angle of the arm to the orientation of the fixed jaw and teeth. The steeper the angle, the closer the canines marks/abrasions/parallel lines. Where they're not, it's due to pinching of the skin during the struggle. Next, you must impress that the lines/longitudinal (length) abrasions/striations is the function of body pulling AWAY from the dog. Less a function of the dog pulling alone but the tug-o-war between dog and man. Omg wish I was testifying.

[@NumberswithNora-177]

I believe you more than this lady. She isn't getting to the point

[@sandycabral4914]

We wish you were testifying too.

[@faithyoung4999]

This judge is soooo corrupt. I cannot. Why else would she agree to handle the re-trial and then continue to act like this??? Absolutely PATHETIC judge with an absolutely PATHETIC abuse of the justice system. Don’t @ me idgaf

[@terrybunsey8015]

You Karen Read fans need to hold her accountable and quit instead of trying to make excuses for her behavior and actions, like these dog bites and this woman testifying can’t even prove it and Karen needs to stop wasting taxpayers money. It’s pathetic and disgusting how no one cares about the victim🤔. Karen, Karen and more Fake Karen 🤬🤬🤬

[@terrybunsey8015]

Whatever, because it’s NOT going in your Karen Read fan club favor now!!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

She sees right through Karen and her bs

[@SA-tx2kl]

Why would they put a new judge on this case? She knows the case. No one other than Karenites have a problem with the judge.

[@jojob841]

I see her giving the defense mostly everything they as for. Including this unqualified expert the first trial. I’m sure the let her testify again.

[@AC-gu7rg]

You can also bet you ass , that when karen is found not guilty the judge will not except it and declare a miss trial again because she wants her bonus !

[@terrybunsey8015]

Go away all you Karen Read fans and maybe it wasn’t handled well but you sick ppl forget how messed up your Karen was and can’t seem to remember what happened and even said maybe l ran over him or killed him. GMAB

[@rossi5839]

I can picture her walking around the jury room cracking a ruler in her hand threatening the jurors😮😅

[@millipedic]

Just think. Karen Read has spent millions and is still going to do hard time.

[@GillyMcGillyre]

@@millipedic not likely

[@KarenSchandelmeier]

Ha, doubt it, SO MUCH reasonable doubt. Police BOTCHED this investigation. Very SUS!

[@LizInTheB]

Love that for her. She will never be 'free'. Her name will forever be synonymous with the likes of Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias.

[@Moe-bz6je]

Hank Brennan is not only a great prosecutor but he is truly a man of Integrity.

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

The marks on the arm could be from when she hit him the car,the 2 puncture would could have been tree or bush or something besides dog marks, she was mad at him and very drunk,she hit him with the car.she already don't seem to bright, and her very drunk would be a disaster.

[@gwig3630]

She says a number of times to different people and during interviews, “I hit him!”

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@gwig3630that's not real evidence cause some say did I hit him not I hit him.

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

She hit him n she knows she did,he he

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@Cherry-m2f5lwhere is the proof he has no broken bones no bruising what hit him in the back of his head a car don't leave scratches

[@drick5493]

There’s no bush or tree near where his body was found. Do more homework and get back to us. We wish you well.

[@ExcitedTropicalSailboat-kw1mh]

Sick of this prosecution and Court TV so called experts saying that the marks on his arm isn't Dog bites. I can literally prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it is 💯 % a dog bite. The defense should get in touch with me and I have the EXACT same bite marks that are now scars and I have documentation that shows from the ER that it was from my dogs. They are literally railroading this woman because he was an abusive police officer and they're hell bent on making her guilty of something that she didn't do. The judge is BIASED and Court TV both want her guilty for TV ratings and could care less that this woman's life would be ruined. I think it's ignorance that they say she planted the seed ! No she was giving her account on what was going on and The Fact the Dog has Attacked him before and they keep dismissing that fact. No wonder they had a miss trial. Court TV tried to convince everyone that Johnny Depp was a violent woman beater to and did everything to sway everyone's opinion. We all now know Amber was the violent one. They are wrong for what they're doing.

[@davidtiessen7713]

Melanie Little (lawyer) had Florida Police K9 trainer on her YT channel. He showed his training gear, rubberized forearm, it looks just like O'Keefe's arm and he showed a video of a woman getting bit by a shepard and her lacerations looked exactly the same. Decades experience, believes he's seen more dog bites than any expert and he's unequivical - dog bite and maybe even police trained shepeard (cant remember its been a while)

[@greg1mcintosh844]

Wow you're convincing

[@SA-tx2kl]

😂😂😂 OMG. Would love to see you take the stand as a witness.

[@nuradary-c8d]

Karen Reed was guilty than and she's guilty now

[@mycat1064]

Brennan thinks he is very smart. If this is all he has then the CW are screwed.

[@gailstubbs7717]

He is very smart

[@SA-tx2kl]

He is one of the best. Keep watching

[@catherinetierney4834]

Wait isn’t the dog bite the whole defense case

[@Hilshow5179]

Even if Mr Brennan does try really hard to exclude Dr Russell.. good luck excluding the Arcaa scientists!!!

[@user-dq1sz1qb2f]

Hank Brennan is trying way too hard to discredit her, it’s pathetic hearing the desperation in his voice. Those are obvious dog bites.

[@jennusaf7702]

Yeah I’ve been bitten by a dog and that’s what it looks like to me…puncture wounds hurt like hell too!

[@confused86996]

Hank brennan has to do double the work because of the paid for defense.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Quite desperate and a bit interesting. Why spend all this time one someone who’s obviously very well schooled in this area. Maybe a hint of concern ??

[@tonyautonga]

He's not saying too much itself repeating the same thing every three seconds

[@MEMELIFEBABY]

Brennan is getting super specific with the expert testimony voir dire . “Do you have any experience with dark colored Lexus SUV taillights during a winter snow storm when it’s nine degrees outside and the wind is blowing in from a northeasterly direction while standing on one foot, you don’t do you? Ha, I got you you 40 year experienced physician you.”

[@Let6Me23Reflect]

Uh-oh, Dr. Russell did a bad job. Things don't look too good for Karen Read. If the SJC doesn't drop her second-degree murder charge, she might want to come up with another approach or take a plea. DA Brennan is not fooling around. Jackson is struggling to keep from screaming. It looks like Karen wanted to burst into tears when Dr. Russell took the bait from Brennan and spoke to a "pedestrian collision"-ouch!

[@11B3P]

@@Let6Me23Reflect a policeman died in that man’s front yard. There were emergency vehicles all over the front of his house. He did not come out. He got rid of the dog. He got rid of his phone. His son is a known asshole. They collected evidence in solo cups. It’s clear that the policeman assigned to find the killer of a policeman was more than happy to avoid finding another policeman as the murderer. It’s not as cut and dried as you pretend

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@Let6Me23Reflect A plea would be a great idea. Brennan is a no nonsense prosecutor. Has a great reputation with the Trial Court.

[@terrybunsey8015]

Where did they get this lady, she doesn’t make sense with her responses, here we go again with another waste of taxpayer dollars

[@imboredDB]

Patching up the podium😂😂😂😂

[@cupcake19601]

She isn’t even paying attention!!! She has no interest in justice for anyone!!!! She should be removed from this case!!!!

[@lorettakandrot4180]

Agreed she was not paying attention today or yesterday especially... she's too one sided

[@carelvanwyk6048]

Karen Reads is guilty and should go to jail. The medical doctor's expert evidence is the worse I have ever heard

[@VegaBorn]

It’s not though. She stood by your ground and was honest. Did u see the ending? I bet not

[@VegaBorn]

@@kc-wk1kzthese people clearly are just commenting from what they seen from today. They have no clue what’s really going on.

[@richelle7211]

Then u must not have watched the whole trial.

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@VegaBornShe was awful. The defense should have prepared her for cross. No one is an expert in a court if they can’t show their methodology and give an opinion to a reasonable degree of certainty. Ridiculous.

[@hook4art257]

They are trying to their best to convict Karen and the judge is trying just as hard

[@alysonhall5409]

I disagree with the dog expert on court TV today, saying dog claws are not sharp, I have a dog claws scar on my leg my quad to be precise from 11years ago which was done by a Siberian husky cross who jumped up at me and claws drew blood and I was left with a scar. So totally disagree with the court TV dog expert. As I have a scar that proves otherwise

[@LizInTheB]

Dr. Russell got dog-walked by Hank Brennan.

[@drmikeforcynthiasullivan1457]

Omg ...did not examine anything . $ Boy money talks

[@donnaj257]

I believe she hit him with the car. He didn’t die from the injuries but died of hypothermia. He hit his head that knocked him out. They were all intoxicated

[@a.d.3478]

I believe he just slipped, hit his head and didnt wake up anymore, and the cold temperatures did the rest.

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

Yes think that is close

[@karlamaebosse2528]

@@a.d.3478 so then, how did Karen's Lexus get damaged and how did John's DNA get on the vehicle at the site of the damage? And don't say she shattered her tail light tapping his vehicle at low speed later that morning - that's been debunked.

[@annebosworth7048]

No proof she hit him with her car so can't see how the jury will find her guilty

[@jane6989]

@@a.d.3478 explain the marks on his arm and tears in his sweater then. She hit him. She was pissed off he was going into this house that she did not dare go in due to her trying to get it on with another cop who was there. John had no idea.

[@Elsley12]

Russell can’t explain her methodology in her conclusion. Her “dog bite” theory has been trashed by Brennan. Good job today in this courtroom!

[@Tinks82]

😂😂😂

[@926paaja]

😂😂😂 did you take a shot every time he asked a question? He’s a joke just like the rest of them She’s innocent

[@Elsley12]

@@926paaja you’ve been duped and severely manipulated in your thinking. Go listen to Karen Read prosecutor podcast. It shows clearly how ridiculous this cover up story is and how the evidence shows that KR is definitely guilty, 101%

[@annebosworth7048]

She's a expert...I'm not but they look more like dog bites then being hit by a car..

[@926paaja]

@ we have eyes and ears though .. agreed not a car ..

[@anitaphuck6651]

They took moulds of Chloe’s paws and teeth? Wow! I watched the entire previous trial, as well as quite a few online channels. I was under the impression they didn’t even know for sure where Chloe was. Hmmm…

[@Piat65]

@@anitaphuck6651 The homeowner said she’s placed the dog with someone north of Boston

[@blakekaveny]

The don’t think that matters. I know that when it comes to humans bite marks you can go so far. Like say I bit you well the evidence would show that you were bit by a human but you couldn’t go so far as to say who bit you because skin is elastic so it makes it near impossible to match bit marks

[@anitaphuck6651]

@@blakekavenyfair enough but I think I have seen cases where they can actually line up the bite mark with an xray.

[@blakekaveny]

@@anitaphuck6651 Maybe they did that in the past but nowadays not so much anymore because like I said most medical experts now don’t trust bite mark analysis. Because skin stretches and contracts. That’s why she’s just saying a dog and not specifically what type of dog because she can’t do that because theirs not one specific way to know which type of dog

[@SA-tx2kl]

Chloe was rehomed to a woman in Maine I believe.

[@liznicholas922]

That close up of the judges face ..

[@IreneAnthony-f6p]

She is guilty

[@eileentschari9838]

She is innocent/ the right arm marks are dog bites and a boot mark like he got stomped to death. He was drunk when he arrived at the party and he was angry his girlfriend just left him there. A fight probably insued with those at the party/ which he may have had a beef with someone there at the party/ and left him outside/ and got there stories straight. He had no crushing injuries right?? He had blunt force trauma injuries right?? A car would have crushed his bones..was there evidence of this at autopsy??? The marks on his right arm are dog bites and boot marks he was stomped to death...

[@maimurbach9]

Bullshit

[@purepoison618]

Secrets are hard to keep. The bigger the secret, the more a conscience beckons one to relieve themself of their secret. For a house full of people, aged from young males through to adults to keep a massive secret seems unlikely to believe. Not even one of these people, got too drunk one night and let their lips tell the tale? Not one, after between the sheets loving, was there even one participant, who did some deep pillow talk? I just can’t buy that. One (or more) of those involved in your perceived gang-sized coverup, would have blabbed the truth to someone. There is a reason the saying, *Two people can know a secret, if one of the two are dead* was coined. In this case, you are expecting me to believe multiple people know the secret and none have breathed a word. I simply don’t believe human nature works that way.

[@comfortandjoys]

He got beat, bitten, stripped of his phone, stomped, thrown against a barbell set in front of a house full of people and ALL in less than 8 minutes. Oh yeah and wasn’t he running up and down stairs BEFORE he even got there? HOW can you possibly believe this?

[@confused86996]

And you were there to see all this? She hit him with her car

[@confused86996]

​@@purepoison618She killed him

[@Ceeshore]

anyone else think this prosecutor is a geek, lol

[@LoveFree333]

Yes he's awful.

[@annb8296]

I think he's an idiot and a moron.

[@ruckbarbie]

Holy pot, kettle, black! 2 words for Brennan: Trooper.Paul.

[@VegaBorn]

Clearly the commenters in this section did not watch the WHOLE trial. Get invested before you make assumptions about what you THINK you know about this case. If ANYONE has followed it, you don’t need common sense to know Karen is INNOCENT. she’s smiling , she’s been thru hell! How would you feel if CORRUPT law enforcement was out to make you look like a killer and also slander your name along the way? I’d feel damn good about any win I got.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

With ya!! It’s a paid mob or errr a paid mob lol

[@SA-tx2kl]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jane6989]

I know one guy on line showed dog bites that looked like John's arm, however, if you do a google search for bite marks, none of the dozens of pics look like John's arm.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Did you jane? I found many

[@rossi5839]

Bites through clothing do.

[@catherinetierney4834]

I know I googled dog bites and the housewives of SLC she got bit (attacked ) go look at her bites .. most dog bites do not look like this !!

[@jojob841]

Let’s go Hank!

[@darrekgrooms4454]

The defense is tearing her up she looks like an incompetent bad witness

[@emmitt5443]

The utter stupidity of " the most import dog bite doctor in the United States " saying a dog as large as Khole can bite someone on the arm up to 4 times and not once use it's under jaw is insane. Not to mention the elbow " bite" anyone that has a dog know if they chop down on a BONE they ain't letting go without ripping the skin to shreds.

[@emmitt5443]

lets face it -- they were drunk - they had a fight - he was gonna dump her - he got out of the car - slipped or dropped something - at the same time she was throwing the car in reverse and hit him - she knew she hit him and didn't give a crap. did she mean to kill him ? probably not / but she sure as hell didn't get out of the car to check on him.

[@darrenlocke5627]

This is not true, was Chloe a police trained dog? I think it’s insane to think a 6 foot guy could get hit in the elbow by a car, not have any bruises to his arm, but the back of his head is caved in and his face broken. What hit his face? The prosecutor has to prove that, if you don’t know after 3 years, maybe they can’t prove it?

[@Katsutube12]

She can't see Chloe bc she was put down to destroy evidence, so sad :(

[@terrybunsey8015]

Ghee how convenient for the defense and their BS

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@Katsutube12 if this comment was made during the grilling of the expert, would have been gold

[@SA-tx2kl]

Chloe was not put down. Don’t lie.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@ oh given away to someone that no one can find

[@sharonparker8324]

@@AHedgecliff4977 Chloe was offered to the defence last year to tested by Jen McCabe.

[@CharleneDaniels-w5q]

Get Cesar millan dog expert

[@rossi5839]

Hah, rules limitations and boundaries exercise discipline and affection.

[@bran_deasy]

lol - read the live chat replay. Looks like JM was commenting under a pseudonym 💀💀💀

[@brendavincent]

Why is this judge back? I find her unfair, unjust and completely bias. She is always more concerned with having breaks and what time they will finish the day. Sending strength to the John's family, how heartbreaking to go through this all over again.

[@catherinetierney4834]

I can’t believe people still think a dog bit him ? That’s amazing people still believe she’s innocent … wow

[@NancyBriant-wr9vo]

I hope this new prosecutor gets her!! She is so guilty. This expert is not qualified. The mark in John’s arm were from the snow plow all the way

[@jendee1260]

46:06 she’s saying nothing. THIS IS A NEW TRIAL, STOP BRINGING UP WHAT YOU SAID “AT THE LAST ONE.” CITE ONE OF THE SUPPOSED PEER-REVIEWED SOURCES. “I’M OFFENDED” THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU. this is a witness?! wtf

[@petercaroline4855]

This is the dumbest courtroom setup I've ever seen... The judge should Tower over everybody, and there should be a distance between everyone... Whoever designed this courtroom should be brought back and fired... You know if the space is tight stadium seating would work for people just hanging out to see the trial

[@jendee1260]

agreed.

[@alikat1053]

The defense requested this courtroom

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@alikat1053 yes they did

[@saraha5847]

She’s innocent. 🎉🎉 retrial is ridiculous

[@cupcake19601]

This Brennan character is very aggressive and comes across very ignorant to me!!!!! I still think the judge will not let this dog bite expert in because I truly believe she wants the STATE TO WIN!!!!!

[@jackierowbottom5268]

She wants Karen to be found guilty , so she's definitely not going to allow the dog bite evidence in.

[@catme13]

And what was Allan Jackson then? !

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@cupcake19601 Brennan is the furthest from ignorant. Pay attention. Watch a professional competent attorney. He is one of the best.

[@11B3P]

They keep talking about glass, once again where is the glass in the back of a modern car?

[@darrenlocke5627]

Planted by the police. Lens are plastic, it broken glass on the car.

[@11B3P]

@ just being facetious

[@jeffkoch951]

@@11B3P windows?

[@11B3P]

@ the windows weren’t broken, or at least I’m gonna aware of them picking any actual glass up from the solo cups or trash bags that they used for evidence custody? I mean, if they’ve got some evidence from one of their solo cups or trash bags then maybe. But you know we were talking about the lower part where all the plastic is.

[@darrenlocke5627]

@ there was actual “glass” on the bumper, originally thought to be from the glass JO was holding, but was proven not to be glass from that glass. So where did it come from. ? Ask Proctor.

[@DavidUSA2525]

If Read didn't have resting smug face it might improve the perception of her.

[@jackierowbottom5268]

That judge is clearly not listening she is more bothered about twirling in her chair. She should definitely be taken off this case

[@animallovefest143]

Asked and answered! This guy straight out of the gate is annoying... Lally Jr!

[@annkelliher3461]

Alessyee is too much of a kiss ass. Not sure what team he is on!!

[@eliakarratti1817]

Her chest was pounding so hard because of conviction

[@IMSHARP777]

Bev still allowing everything for Brennan, Ill Allow it !! 😂 DR.RUSSELL ❤ is great. Hank is outmatched professionally.

[@rhondajones-zs7nw]

He’s fabulous - move over Jackson you’ve met your match

[@LoveFree333]

Hair on the back bumper means NOTHING

[@darrenlocke5627]

I would challenge anyone who think that random hair which was testified too as being on the quarter panel under the taillight I believe, that it survived the blizzard, not sure how that possible.

[@LoveFree333]

Yes, that it stayed on that long and also, it doesn't matter because he had contact with the car all the time...

[@11B3P]

How many times does this guy allowed to ask the same question it’s just gonna be a copy of the other one

[@AHedgecliff4977]

This judge loves a good prosecution

[@RETROMV]

10:10 There's Karen waltzing in with Nick Rocco right behind her, most likely after they just finished their photo op and poster signing for Karen. Every penny counts!

[@tonyautonga]

If he say methodology one more time, that's your favorite word for the day. But way too they get in court install talking about. How they preserve the evidence. Let's see what you'll answer is gonna be then sir rude man

[@SA-tx2kl]

@@tonyautonga Her methodology or lack thereof is a key point for her to backup her testimony. He has to talk about it.