COVID19 Child Vaccine Now Available for 16-17 yr olds in UK - What is Gillick Competency? - Dr Gill

[@starboy832]

Could you give an update on your thoughts going into 2023 I'd love to hear more about this

[@leurts]

I got promised : better WiFi connection, bill Gates whispering in my ear, automatic amazon shipping based on my thoughts. What I got... A slightly sore arm. How boring

[@DrJamesGill]

🤣🤣

[@DrJamesGill]

I was disappointed that the Bill Gates in my head wouldn’t read me audiobooks. Complete waste of time

[@idraote]

I hoped to get in touch with some alien civilisation but no, always the same boring people...

[@williamwinder5011]

I value you knowledge Doctor, but I will not be a part of the human trials.

[@ronbunn1349]

Fine you don’t have to be. The trials ended a long time ago. We’ve been rolling out the jab post-trials for months. Or are you more of a qualified medical expert than Doctor Gill, such that you can “value his knowledge” but totally disregard it within the same sentence?

[@williamwinder5011]

@@ronbunn1349 it takes years to fully test drugs and even then major side effects still crop up.

[@ronbunn1349]

@@williamwinder5011 Ok, so it is that you feel you’re more of an expert on vaccine approval and efficacy testing processes than a practicing doctor. It’s been well explained many times by now how the approval process was drastically shortened beurocratically with the same safety protocols. Much has also been easily explained about the likelihood of vaccine side effects for all vaccines historically occuring within 6-8 weeks, not years. Much more still has been written explaining covid-19 risk to the population of unvaccinated, immunocompromised, and so many other unknowingly vulnerable people that neither I nor Dr. Gill should have to explain to you why it’s a logical and moral imperative to choose the jab over perpetuating a global pandemic for years in case there is a hyper-rare side effect many years later.

[@hilary.teanti]

@@ronbunn1349 - There are good and bad doctors in this world. Doctors make mistakes and some of them mistakes are life alteringly bad for the recipient when they do. The good doctor gave his advice . . . just as a financial advisor or a lawyer might. Whether some1 chooses to take that advice, is the prerogative of that person. However, even I am sure that even you will agree that a person with a modicum of intelligence will know their own body better than a doctor does.

[@ronbunn1349]

@@hilary.teanti why would you think I would agree with you on an asinine statement like that? Does a homeowner know more about electrical wiring than the trained electrician called out to fix the place? What’s your argument even besides arrogantly asserting that you know what all fellow people “with a modicum of intelligence” think…that anti-vax Billy doesn’t need to help stop the pandemic because he knows his own body better than doctors and experts in virology, immunology, etc?

[@owenknott8703]

I am a 16 year old living in the UK and got my second Pfizer jab today; no side effects apart from a slightly sore arm!

[@DrJamesGill]

That’s great to hear Owen! Hopefully that is it for you 😊

[@flamingmuffin666]

Myocarditis is being shown to be quite elevated in males

[@die-sas7462]

Children are the most precious age group Mexico: Save the olds first!!! Kids are strong enough

[@asierrubiomaiza8533]

My wife is pregnant, three months of pregnancy. Here in Spain we are having issues with pregnant women, in the late pregnancy. She is 32, doctors say that she can get the vaccine, but she is really scared about it

[@DrJamesGill]

We have seen no issues of note in late pregnancy 😊 But we have seen deaths from covid in late pregnancy

[@myjrbs]

I get why people want Children to get vaccinated but surely it's better to send our vaccines to places like India where everyone is dying rather than Children who won't get severe effects? I would support the children vaccine program if the poorer countries were at the same stage seen as we get more variants from them than we do from 16 year olds, I'm vaccinated so nowt against the vaccine just the unfair advantage the rich countries have...

[@DrJamesGill]

It’s a VERY interesting point. I honestly don’t have the answer here. I think that we should be giving away our EXCESS stock piles, but vaccinating the children is still compatible with that.

[@myjrbs]

@@DrJamesGill I didn't realise we even had Excess it's just that if other countries were also vaccinated we might not get new variants meaning it may be easier to control the virus and then children come second but I suppose if we do have excess then yes send those off ASAP!

[@StratosTitan]

Is it likely that a variant of SARS-CoV-2 will pop up that is resistant to our current vaccines? If so, what will our path forward be, societally? I don't see us returning to full on lockdowns in the coming years, even if this variant would become dominant. I think the people are "tired" and need some way back to a sense of normalcy.

[@DrJamesGill]

It’s unlikely. The more people get vaccinated the less the virus can spread, thus the less likely mutations I’ve heard that some unpublished computer models - this take with a HUGE degree of skepticism (why did they not publish, was it merely an opinion that couldn’t be backed up etc) that suggest the virus has also had the most severe mutation, a future more lethal / infectious mutations don’t function well and thus wouldn’t propagate anyway - but I have no hard research to back that up Point is, the better the level of vaccination, the lower chance of a virus vaccine break out

[@StratosTitan]

@@DrJamesGill Sure that's the case when we are thinking about the first world, but I think we might lose sight of other countries, where vaccinations are still in the early stages. In these countries random drift could still be influential seeing as they still have many, often undocumented, cases of covid-19. I hope those computer models are right though, that would be welcome news. I hope this virus follows the trend of becoming less lethal over time to allow for its own maximum propagation, as is the case with many virusses (or so I have been taught). In any case I'm "curious" what the future holds. I have just finished my bachelor's degree in biomedical sciences and will start my master's in September, with hopes to start a PhD after that because I love the science. For now I'm focussed on cancer, but I'm definitely also interested in virology.

[@DrJamesGill]

What would you think of doing a PhD in?

[@StratosTitan]

@@DrJamesGill I am mainly interested in the molecular mechanisms of cancer, more specifically in how cancers avoid immune destruction, especially related to the initiation of metastasis, such as the formation of the PreMetastatic Niche. However a PhD is still a long way down the line, I still need to complete my master's degree first, which will take 2 years. Hopefully I can prove myself and network well during my master's to allow me to start a PhD.

[@DrJamesGill]

I looked a doing a PhD into NK cells, and using as a cancer treatment

[@matthewwilliams3789]

I am double jabbed myself but have to admit the amount of anti-vax nonsense out there at the moment is incredibly dangerous. Is it possible to put together a video disproving some of this nonsense?

[@DrJamesGill]

I’m certainly thinking about it

[@goldleafduty]

I’ve found it strange the messaging behind getting the vaccine has heavily focused on protecting your family/others etc. When it’s quite clear it’s about reducing your own chance of serious illness, whether you’re young or old. I feel that’s contributed somewhat to the mistrust around the vaccine I see a lot.

[@DrJamesGill]

Perhaps. I can understand the thought process however, trying to appeal to people’s sense of community etc It’s a shame that doesn’t have the effect that was imagined

[@brendapyron459]

What about the blood clots?????

[@DrJamesGill]

That why we are not using Astra for the under 30’s

[@matthewwilliams3789]

@Hell N Degenerates no. Hes just a decent man and doctor putting out false fires caused by people like you.

[@ktrigg2]

What is the actual trial period for these vaccines? Less than one year? Should there be any additional concern around these vaccines if they are indeed being used to counteract an artificially manipulated virus?

[@DrJamesGill]

If this was a drug, something a person took daily or weekly, then longer testing would indeed be warranted HOWEVER, the vaccine is broken down within days, but the immune memory remains. So short term side effects are possible, but there just isn’t enough chemical to cause a long term effect. An analogy might be a bomb going off in Australia, affecting the UK. It won’t. HOWEVER if they were setting off atomic bombs, daily, or weekly in Australia, that WOULD have an effect on the UK eventually I hope that makes sense

[@ktrigg2]

@@DrJamesGill thanks doc.👍🏻

[@DrJamesGill]

This is what I was hoping for with this video, to generate open, respectful and honest questions and discussion 😊

[@lars1296]

I think you said exactly why we should be concerned. The risk of death from the actual virus for healthy people is sooooooo low

[@alexandrineb7752]

@@lars1296 99.96% survival rate right?

[@chuckoneill2023]

Do you think there will need to be a new vaccine developed, as the variants keep presenting? As I write this, the US is dealing with Delta, whilst some places claim a Llamda has been sequenced, and so on....

[@nobilismaximus]

Dr Gill, you are so softly spoken I can hardly hear you with headphones turned all the way up! Always great content Sir. 👍 I’m from Scotland but have been in Texas for the last 12 years. I had the vaccine and was fine. However my wife and I are sure we had COVID last year - “Upper respiratory infection”. Then I had pneumonia in January which was weird as I was fine all day then went to bed - had a cough and started to gargle on way looked like a jar of raspberry jam…. Was like a blood blister in my lung that popped…. Noooocice! Not.

[@oddcabbage]

We're still part of Europe just like the other 22 European countries not in the EU

[@DrJamesGill]

True true. Although I’m not sure many people thought I was suggesting we’ve left the continent 😊

[@timw2007]

Hello Dr Gill Hope your well. What are your thoughts on Ivermectin and its use on the treatment for Covid ? All the best.

[@DrJamesGill]

Dangerous rubbish, that will result in people being harmed.

[@JasonTheOneAndOnly]

M8 of myn died other week from covid, 32, didn't bother with the jab, I get ppl don't trust the government's etc but the alternative can be worse.

[@DrJamesGill]

I’m so sorry to hear that. Hopefully good will come in that his friends will accept the offer of the vaccine

[@ddkdkdkdkdkdk1]

Dr Gill, isnt this age catagory at low risk of hospitalisation and death from covid?

[@DrJamesGill]

Yes, but that doesn’t mean they still can’t suffer and have long covid But hospitalisation and death are one end of the spectrum. It’s a little like saying: “I’m not going to drown, so don’t need to wear a rain coat” Being cold, damp and soggy is still unpleasant, especially if you could have prevented it

[@DrJamesGill]

As discussed severe covid is about 1:60,000 in this age group

[@WhippyWhipGaming]

@@DrJamesGill so like flu then for this age, and we don't go on mass propaganda campaigns to jab youngsters for flu

[@DrJamesGill]

We DO advise that children get their flu jab every year.

[@ddkdkdkdkdkdk1]

@@DrJamesGill Thanks for your replies and insight!

[@haze5980]

In france vaccine is available for 12 + years since 2 months

[@jeffgoulding5733]

Hi my child had kawasaki disease when he was 3 would they vaccine be safe for him if so which vaccine is he best getting..

[@DrJamesGill]

There is no reason to suspect KD would be an issue, any of the approved vaccines should be safe 😊

[@garyhiggins4333]

My wife had the Moderna vaccine and was very ill with it she went to the hospital and the doctor didn't even know they were using the moderna vaccine they put her on a drip to help rehydrate her couple of hours later sent her home the following day i got a bit worried and we went back to the hospital. But you can't go in together so I had to wait outside put her on another drip the doctor said you had a very bad reaction to the vaccine so my question is should she have the second one or leave it altogether. It's a difficult decision to make because she was so ill with the first one any advice would be great thanks great video 📹 as well 👍

[@brandonlance3601]

You cannot identify serious side effects in 6 months.

[@DrJamesGill]

We can be pretty confident. It comes down to maths. Any event has a probability. If you follow ONE person, the likelihood of you seeing a rare event in that year is exceptionally remote. Let’s say 1 in a million in a year. If you follow two people, to pick up a 1 in a million event, you would have to a same OBSERVATIONAL power at 6 months, but that still makes the event highly unlikely to be picked up We’ve followed MILLIONS of children now power vaccine. Which is why we know that a really rare side effect, is myocarditis. I’ve always found the statistics of medicine fascinating, as it feels like it doesn’t work. But does

[@powderandpaint14]

@@amitolacatori4442 no they didn't, if you watch the documentaries about it it was the company selling the medication that tried to cover up evidence of the side effects. Doctors were raising concerns.

[@DrJamesGill]

Regardless of the mechanism of action of Thalidomide which was a terrible occurrence, the issue occurred as it was a LONG TERM medication, not a single shot The vaccines are safe. The possibly of something in be long term is so drastically low as we are talking about such small amounts of biologically actually medication

[@xemy1010]

@@amitolacatori4442 It's literally his job as a doctor to advocate medicines and treatments to prevent illness and disease, which includes vaccines. Just because it involves a needle and a plunge doesn't make it inherently suspicious or dangerous, and anti-vaccination sentiment overwhelmingly stems from scientific ignorance, from cynical politically-motivated campaigns, or a mix of both. I personally advocate fully publicly funded vaccines so that the profit motive doesn't enter into the equation, which will make it easier to trust for many people, but we work with what we have and what we have is much, much better than nothing.

[@joreyn7656]

Is there any guidance about the covid vaccine in individuals who are breastfeeding? Kind of random questions but the GP said to ask the pediatrician and the pediatrician said to ask the GP.

[@DrJamesGill]

I have not discussed with paeds . However speaking to the scientists behind the vaccine, and discussing with other colleagues we consider there not to be any indication to discontinue best feeding. At the most conservative express and discard the first few days after vaccine for max reassurance.

[@idraote]

As someone belonging to vulnerable categories, I am kind of upset about the turn things have taken. I hoped to be safe after my second jab, but I am now learning that people belonging to vulnerable groups are still very much at risk of severe and even fatal covid. So, although fully vaccinated, I feel I'm as exposed as I was before and that's not particularly comforting, seeing that people are now very lax in respecting preventative measures (I get people who don't wear masks sitting next to me on park benches etc.). I am under the impression that the currently available vaccines don't target the Delta variants very well, not to mention the variants that will arise in the next few months. I am worried and upset.

[@DrJamesGill]

That’s not correct. The Pfizer and Astra Zeneca vaccines (I don’t know about the others as have not dedicated time to looking at them as not quite as relevant in the UK) are still very effective against the delta variant, and the Spike protein in conserved across those variants The vaccines produce a mimic of the spike protein, and that is what the body raised an immune response too It is actually quite unlikely that the spike protein will shift significantly, as it is a core feature of the virus. As for death and severe infection. Nothing is 100%. The TB vaccine is ~ 60% effective. So the 96% on Pfizer is TREMENDOUS. the vaccines unfortunately don’t stop an infection, but even after the first jab prevent 80% of SEVERE CASES As a rule of thumb, we’re seeing that in the hospitals now, about 1 in 100 have not been vaccinated.

[@idraote]

@@DrJamesGill thank you for your answer. I was particularly hit by the data published by Israel. On August 3rd they appear to have had 2015 fully vaccinated people who were positive. Of these, 147 were having severe symptons and apparently all of them belonged to vulnerable groups (age or pathology). This is what gave me the impression that the vaccines (I had Moderna) don't really protect vulnerable groups. I hope I am wrong, of course.

[@gregcomeau7336]

Thank you Dr. Gill for a very useful video. I’m discouraged by some of the comments, but I hope they don’t get you down. You’re doing a great service. I didn’t know the part about the vaccine being universal and why that might lead to more pronounced side effects in younger people. My 15 year old daughter got the Pfizer jab here in the U.S. and had a rough couple of days while I felt almost nothing. Now I can explain to her why that happened. Actually, I’ll just point her to your video. Thank you sir.

[@DrJamesGill]

I’m really glad that helped 😊

[@thatabu]

The EU has approved Comirnaty and Spikevax for children over 12 years of age. Are there any plans to do this in the UK?

[@paulemsley8369]

Got my vaccine, fell ok but my Pfizer sore 🤣

[@DrJamesGill]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ghostrot]

My dother has to go get pfeizer next week she is 13 im not shore to get it but she wonts to get it

[@DumpsterFire2048]

Hey Doc, I don't want that weird MRNA crap...should I just get J&J?

[@DrJamesGill]

I honestly don’t know anything about the J&J vaccines The mRNA is perfectly safe. It is going to be next frontier in medicine - personalised drugs for cancers etc will use this, and they will not cost the earth like the early attempts at personalised care

[@Heather-iq1vr]

@@jonisiodaza3520 You mean the Dr. Malone who everyone else agrees didn't "invent" mRNA vaccines? You must have got him confused with the people who have been testing other vaccines that use mRNA. Like the separate HIV-1 vaccines in developement from: Argos Therapuetics (NCT00672191, NCT01069809, NCT02042248) or Erasmus (NCT02888756) or Massachusets General (NCT00833781). Or maybe the rabies vaccine from CureVac (nct02241135)? or the Zika Vaccine from Moderna (NCT03014089)? You know, those other mRNA vaccines that have been in development since before mRNA was a news item.

[@powderandpaint14]

I don't think the J&J vaccine is available in the UK. But if you're in the US and you'd feel happier getting that one then go ahead!

[@DrJamesGill]

whilst I think the fear of an mRNA vaccine is frankly misplaced, and is driven by lies from antivaxxers I would agree that the J&J is better than nothing, but so far the Pfizer has the greater evidence base

[@SeanB-wi5yh]

I got fully vaccinated last month. The most I got in terms of effects was tiredness for 1 day and a really sore arm for a day or 2. But besides that I've experienced no other effects

[@DrJamesGill]

That’s great to hear. The vast majority are the same. We do have to acknowledge when others have a different experience though, as I think the black and white thinking is one of the issues that has us in this regrettably combative situation with some people

[@N0TSauceyy]

I’m from America and you can be 12 and get vaccinated

[@DrJamesGill]

We have authorised it for children with other health complications at that age, but not generally yet. I expect that will come soon

[@StratosTitan]

Same in Belgium, we are now vaccinating 12-15 year olds.

[@quotes895]

GREAT ONEE😍😉

[@DrJamesGill]

Thanks 😋

[@miminimi9018]

[@gildrop]

I'm no doctor and I'm surely not questioning your knowledge about this, but I've had a family member die from it and 2 very close friends suffer debilitating side effects from it. I'm by no means saying don't get the vaccine, but at this point, I've already had covid and I'll take my chances. Thanks for the great information doc!

[@DrJamesGill]

Unfortunately when people have experienced issues, it’s very difficult. Unfortunately given the number of people we are talking about, taking the UK as an example, 1 in a million chances are going to happen 70 times in the uk if everyone was vaccinated

[@gildrop]

@@DrJamesGill thanks for the response doc! I'll definitly do more research and try to get over my fear

[@fozzyozzy106]

I also had similar situation my uncle died from it he was fit as fiddle, doctors are paid to say these things nothing against Dr Gill

[@DrJamesGill]

That is a falsehood about payment, or bias. If anything I have an inverse bias - knowing people who designed and made the ASTRA ZENICA vaccine Yet, I advise the Pfizer where possible

[@fozzyozzy106]

@@DrJamesGill I meant no offence Doc but have you had a look at the Yellow card statistics?

[@dny5598]

I'm double vaccinated, but something I hear from my antivax friends a lot is "if you can still be contagious after being vaccinated then why should I bother, since it only protects myself?" I never really know what to answer to them, since they seem to not care about getting sick.

[@powderandpaint14]

If they'd prefer not to end up in hospital or dying from covid they'd be wise to get the vaccine! It greatly reduces the chances of those things happening.

[@alexandrineb7752]

@@powderandpaint14 I'd be interested in seeing the studies on this please for reference.

[@powderandpaint14]

@@alexandrineb7752 there are studies but the evidence is that currently the people ending up I hospital or dying are largely people who are not vaccinated or have only had one.

[@DrJamesGill]

Very true in my direct and observed experience

[@powderandpaint14]

@UC0LMVBC0j_1dyAvdpJOjBYQ which country are you talking about?

[@jorgecardoso5863]

At the end of every class I tell my students to get both jabs when their time comes, glad to see its becoming a reality worldwide

[@DrJamesGill]

I’m a LITTLE disappointed we’ve waited this long. But I do understand the abundance of caution

[@lars1296]

The risk of death from the virus is super low for people in certain age categories with no underlying medical conditions. Talk to your own doctor about your situation and be an adult who makes their own decisions

[@DrJamesGill]

However a very low percentage of a large population is actually a very large number

[@powderandpaint14]

Obesity puts people at much higher risk of complications but is not classed as an underlying condition, don't forget that.

[@Loonyrabbit-tv]

The vaccine is saving many lives

[@DrJamesGill]

👍

[@Loonyrabbit-tv]

Shame it can't help a brain tumor 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@orders69pizzas30]

Nah let’s not do this.