CrackDown S01E22 - Would Rogue have really beat TSM 8 out of 10 times?

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[@0tb16]

It didn't seem easy with larssen, but you guys actually did a good job getting some emotions out of a Swedish rookie

[@lsdgaming6400]

I cant tell if Larssen is taking thorins insults seriously or not, he keeps the plain face all the time. Hard to read lol

[@gigachad5961]

@a g Ginger w no soul

[@kollat13]

What insults. That flame at the begining on rogue was just an icebreaker. After that I didn't see anything offensive said..

[@EliteGhostR]

@@kollat13 1:02:10 is when he insults him big time LMAO

[@Sunshinus]

I don't think he does, i think he realises that thorin is just a manchild and tries to ignore him

[@kollat13]

@@EliteGhostR "I don't think rogue is gonna beat g2" damn what an insult. sounds kind of like an opinion

[@nightmare_1337]

Im pretty sure LS didn't make the point about rogue beating tsm 8 out of 10, but duke. LS made the point that kt and jin air would beat g2 tho

[@conormcfire]

it was kayys actually

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

conor mccarthy nah it was the splyce coach

[@axelm4427]

LS thought Fanatic would 3-1 G2 as well so you know....

[@busherinolol1693]

@@mustaqimhadi6381 Splyce's coach Duke tweeted it afterwards but Kayys said it first on listenLoco

[@simargl2454]

"slanted eyes = good" - LS

[@JustinGNapoleonn]

I really enjoy the show, but when interviewing someone like Larssen who does not develop his idea that much, I feel like it is very important to think about not asking any "closed" questions (that can be answered by yes/no). He goes for the shortest answer most of the time and that affects the rythm of thow. Keep it up!

[@aymenhannani3490]

He was fine in the first hour when asked about the game but yeah once uou go out of the usual topics...

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

I like the ones where Thorin just makes the invited person feel like shit

[@Gaunerchen]

Iam an aficionado of abuse aswell.

[@robertmeyer6837]

Just gets you hyped for if they ever get nemesis or rekkless on the show lol

[@peterblack7449]

Yea the ones who don't banter back much prob feel awkward as fck

[@axelm4427]

Come on its just banter no players in the lec would actually feelbad 🐒

[@maschiroib.1692]

"Get out of groups stage, we'll talk about you on the list". Aight, we done bois. Pack it up.

[@makiacc2]

For Corki, It's all about the size of the package.

[@jasonchen4807]

Rip then

[@endodouble6691]

No guests will be able to match LS and the MAD head coach.

[@humanoid8344]

Zven and jankos are pretty good too

[@Nnothingg-]

Bwipo was as good

[@NorthPoem]

eli jenn perkz and caps were good too but bwipo LS and jankos were the best

[@kollat13]

Peter dunn was amazing

[@slendian]

@@kollat13 I think he meant peter dunn as the headcoach (he does alot more than all analysts do in team settings as in he had major say in building the roster and building the 2 year plan)

[@jimmybaker4821]

Thorin made this a bit unconfortable for larsen but was hilarious for a viewer

[@tempname4039]

I think he had to be like that otherwise would have been a bit flat.

[@williamhentz5752]

@@tempname4039 No no Thorin is probably the most unprofessional interviewer ever. I mean imagine if Thorin had to do this for any other sport with a professional setting. This man would have his career ended treating guests with like no respect, acts like a baby when he doesn't get the super negative answer when he spends 4 minutes trying to force out of guests

[@samueltunnicliffe7012]

@@williamhentz5752 mate this was like pulling teeth. So painful to watch, and that is because of Larssen. Thorin isn't unprofessional lol. He is purposefully making the broadcast entertaining and it's in Esports. They are used to it

[@sleven8013]

William Hentz what kind of delusional are you? Thorin is nailing it and totally saving multiple situations. For any other interviewer in the league scene, interviewing Larssen would be a death sentence.

[@jdksdj11]

@@sleven8013 Some people thinks that Crackdown is some of profesional after match interview, but it's just a podcast/talkshow and it works here.

[@kristijonasruskys7710]

I love that you shared your opinions on Hilly even though it wasn't related to the topic. As a Fnatic fan it really hurts seeing people - even other Fnatic fans - flaming him after a couple of bad performances. The guy has proven himself over and over again, he's been one of the best in EU for many years now but people still are quick to write him down. Sure, some of the plays he makes are questionable at best but when he carries he carries hard.

[@digitalkarma4691]

Short answer: Last year probably this year definetely.

[@benjaminp2776]

Correct short answer: Last year probably, this year definitely. People forget they were a round from being able to quality for gauntlet, where the highest seed was the team they 3-0'd in playoffs. Talking 4th place NA versus potentially replacing Splyce who got a "free ride" to a round of 8 finish. The interesting ripple is that they weren't involved due to tanking in Spring, and how their slower implementation of youth talent fucked them out of a potential Worlds showing.

[@OldManJenkins69]

@@benjaminp2776 Took me a second lol

[@Brormable]

Mindstate idk man, splyce were really close to kicking fpx from worlds

[@AvantaSensei]

Dom and Thorin literally saved this episode

[@boazselinger2364]

It’s their show what

[@Tilteado25]

@@boazselinger2364 Larssen was being extremely quiet during the whole episode and usually the guests talk as much as Dom/Thorin

[@zealous404]

@@Tilteado25 He was quiet that's why Thorin & Dom had to be more active; it goes both ways

[@rottenpotato4399]

Haha imagine an outgoing introverted socially awkard pro gamer...

[@Rose-cp4kh]

@@rottenpotato4399 Just watch Zven episode, it was 80% about him

[@sleven8013]

I never in my life thought I would hear Thorin swearing in Swedish. Lmao

[@Taterthong]

Thorin going innnnn

[@manvirsingh8909]

God damn!!! So many of Thorin's jokes went unappreciated. 😂

[@SuckToBeYou]

Rekkles with the most kills in the entire LEC. As ADC Dom: If you have two Rekkles's you will never kill anyone ever.

[@blobitz9648]

It's not like he's wrong lol. Rekkles is basically the Froggen of ADC and them being on the same team pretty much proves him right.

[@oscarpilarczyk5766]

I can see larssen missunderstanding the actual objective of many of the questions and it feels bad , i suppose he is thinking that they want him to say some flame type things but actually in many of the situations he can say IMO whatever , pretty meh episode cause larssen is gigashy XD

[@goncalomedeiros1589]

After watching it, I think the episode was very good. It was hard to get a lot of interesting information out of Larssen but Dom and specially Thorin with his "flame" did a great job of making the episode entertaining, and I don't think it was awkward, Larssen just had a straight face all episode, I guess this is normal for swedes 😂

[@thebigbronkowski]

Thorin out here saving the episode

[@davidnauss9143]

Thanks for the upload!

[@aloufin]

@1:06:00 Thorins Corki Jokes begin to brew @1:41:47. hilarious segment about FNC comms

[@VictouffeVideos]

Thorin makes a joke about the package, but IWD reference to Larssen package into the fountain and losing his team the game is better and funnier imo.

[@imKhokie]

Always impressed with Dom's detailed knowledge of multiple regions of league. Thorin was great as always. Keep up the great work, really appreciating this content especially amidst the pandemic.

[@dmitryrodionov2386]

When they mentioned Special I remembered when Veteran said that Excel could become top 4. It's s like he forgot how he was playing in EU Masters.

[@peterblack7449]

Yo LEC is actually stacked.. As someone living in NA, I watch LCS more but find all of the LEC teams much more entertaining / better storylines lmao

[@reaperm666]

Ive watched LCS for around 5+ years and i've recently switched over to LEC due to the quality of the the matches and players. There's maybe a handful of interesting and good players in NA, as well as having fun casters, but this year is a joke in terms of quality. Everyone outside of C9 for the most part are poor in comparison to the majority of teams in other regions.

[@billyhutson]

Michael M same. This year has turned me off of LCS completely. I used to never miss a game. Now I just watch C9 stomp on everybody and tune into TSM once in awhile to see Doublelift shit the bed. Truly just a sick form of gratification. Nothing like watching a cocky player who is completely washed make a total ass of himself.

[@quak]

lets gooooo love the crackdown bro

[@anthonysavoia7728]

Love the content quak glad you are back

[@bugsdelany]

love me some thorin! i'm noticing this trend though, that other people on the shows are more and more struggling to get their word in. show's straight fire Dom!

[@lay6704]

There was no salvaging this one, the dude is answering the questions as if someone is pointing a gun at him outside of the camera FoV. I think thorin did the best out of a really bad guest if imma be honest. Especially EU guests they need to hand pick them more carefully, most people will lack social skills but that combined with struggling to speak English fluently and you end up with brick walls such as Larssen.

[@murdurburd9422]

That intro Thorin did about egotistical people...he's literally describing himself. He has to realize this right?

[@Elena-gj6ow]

If he hasn't yet, he'll never.

[@mogyesz9]

he is autistic bro, understanding such things are not his strong suit 👌😎

[@Katrimanius]

My adhd gets adhd from thorin

[@TheBieza]

you know when you meet someone and your trying to relate in conversation but they just don't understand you or come from a completely different planet so afterwards you walk away awkwardly like "it's not just me right?". that's this episode.

[@donschlafrythmus2357]

Spot on mate

[@nickbohnlein634]

Man this episode made me realise how much i like Thorin

[@NewWorldSinner]

Damn thorin putting in work to keep this one interesting

[@intiparis5970]

funny how they started to flame finn haha

[@sonemesis7083]

Last year? Prob not. Now? I think so, yeah.

[@martinolopezcastro9739]

Last year would be 5/5 nowadays... 9/1 in Rogue favour

[@hodenhoudini1627]

Larssen actually the mvp giving me insane fantasy league points

[@acsu96]

Lot of trolling this episode but hey you live and you learn when booking the guests haha Also regarding Hyli tbh having people like Nemesis and Rekkles on FNC is honestly a good balance, like Rekkles has said that he'd rather play with "inters" in top jungle supp so he can deal the damage rather than with "kda" players so I assume everyone is down with this arrangement. Just so happens that top and supp end up taking the social media aggro for mid/adc too lol

[@rjald4910]

In the first moment I thought they did larsen dirty and edited his head with one of those giant head filters of Instagram...

[@TheRealTarazel]

y'all need a timestamp guy....

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

Just listen to the whole thing.

[@FantasyHDable]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 hmm no

[@TheRealTarazel]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I love the content, but I'm not interested in every little story and anecdote. Putting timestamps on podcasts is just a nice gesture from the creators.

[@michalbazant8634]

@@TheRealTarazel I feel like this is so skimmer... I don't understand things like the video about - I don't know - how to learn deadlift - 5 things you need to know. And somebody adds those 5 things like 1. ... 2 ... ect. But that's like 5% information and doesn't mean anything. I feel like everyone is rushing life these days... Enjoy things you like. Go through it all. Don't skip steps.

[@mubong898]

Yeah I don't understand timestamps like why can't people just take their time watching the content?

[@milespedretti-allen5760]

The reason it's called a gymnasium as far back as archaic/classical Greece is because athletes and warriors used to train naked, and gymnos (transliterated) means naked, hence a "gymnasium" is "the naked room/building".

[@sycophant8470]

dom and thorin together was great

[@Glade4]

spotify please

[@Tyysix]

the crack

[@giacomocasartelli5503]

Not the one he takes everyday

[@IMANU]

we have way more flavours than paprika in the netherlands :'(

[@NLJeffEU]

Yup, naturel 👍😂🇳🇱

[@markevers4936]

Did we just forget about Patatje Joppie

[@martine-h5217]

You gotta give it to Throrin that comment was gold

[@Justthatboss]

Speaking on Kayn and possible changes that can be considered; what I have in mind requires a rework in both kit and lore. Playing Kayn and choosing forms doesn’t seem as satisfying as it should be. Playing like normal; farming, ganking, (if you’re not camping a lane or inting for form) don’t play into his story. I could suggest making Blue Kayn spike stronger in strength once transformed but take longer to acquired, making him an edgy edge boi like Zed with all of his potential by “overcoming the demon scythe” and making Red Kayn SIGNIFICANTLY weaker but available earlier and ramps up in power with each kill as Rhaast is “unleashed as a tool of carnage on the battlefield” with Kayn “sacrificing himself for the power Rhaast grants”, but never being as strong as Blue Kayn. So the choice between slight immediate power that ramps up if you’re successful in-game and playing base Kayn but eventually becoming and much stronger assassin mid-late game (you know, the time when if assassins aren’t already strong, they’re kinda just fucked. You know; tanks, shield supports, GA/Zhonyas, Exhaust, Crowd Control) seems like it could possible work. But that’s just theory crafting on my part

[@sjoerddz]

4:45 don't know which supermarket you are going to thorin

[@xOrlparx]

I enjoyed the episode, Larssen seems like a smart, reasonable guy, of course there is some awkwardness since he's not used to being in talk shows

[@SleepeyBoi]

Thooorin tried so many different things to get reactions from Larssen but the Swede in him is too OP

[@aquaier1932]

Can someone actually count how many times dom said "like" in the show. I would say LIKE 300.

[@lordturtle5210]

Yes.

[@200_MXP]

That was a rough one, I can understand why thorin was getting tilted with not getting any answers

[@SunshineBr0]

Thorin trying to steal that Flame King status from Dom

[@fuzzyhousecat5035]

God damn. Dom and Thorin both carried this episode so hard. They obviously wanted to make Larsen feel comfortable.

[@callumengland6395]

Did they talk about poppy bug exploit?

[@simplyskrypt3914]

"Would rogue really beat tsm 8 times out of 10?" No. They'd beat them 9 times out of 10

[@Upgraderednight]

Idk dawg after watching TSM these past 2 years I wouldn’t be surprised for 10/10 times

[@slendian]

@@Upgraderednight i'd say two of those being perfect games lmao

[@Firestorm6651]

1:07:00 That package joke may have been the worst thing Thorin ever said

[@Boggartwh]

41:46 Dom said it KEKW

[@joeybrez1]

as a TSM fan It hurts me to say... Rogue would beat them 10 out of 10 times If they played like this weekend or something (hypothetically speaking of course)

[@titasurbonas132]

The discussion about Rogue beating TSM 8 out of 10 times was in 2019 summer when neither of the teams were that good.

[@chervenkov1997]

"Do you know he has a trackball?" Hahahha I fuckin remember that. Season 3 - 4

[@pietburen1951]

I don't know, but Xerxe handled FPX and Tian pretty good during Worlds, so I don't know why Xerxe would not be able to handle Blaber who hasn't proven anything internationally yet, but is good at stomping kids in NA...

[@3n3rgy90]

Need me some timestamps :(

[@brabhamF1]

Berlin Internet is not even close to being as bad as people make it out to be (had people saying it is worse than in Africa and shit like that) but there are weird pockets where we have only copper lines down streets and you an have like 12 houses with perfect connection and then 1 with consistent drops. Also our provider (German Telekom) loves to randomly do maintenance work on the entire net at the same time during rush hour traffic. But I never had issues like H2K or Schalke had where they said they had no service for 2 weeks. Don’t want to be too harsh but they may have just chosen a cheap provider and then used a circlejerk as an excuse for being majorly incompetent. Also if you get a business line here you will not have problems. My mum owns a graphics design company and we need 24h server access and our last issue was 8 years ago.

[@sleven8013]

I swear, Larssen is using a still picture.

[@humanoid8344]

Lol what a fucking amazing episode the dude in the middle was just sitting stone faced as fuck it was like the perfect amount of non reactiveness where thorin and dom could just go off ham as fuck say whatever they want lol, Larssen’s straight chilling somehow was a catalyst for the crazyness lol

[@alexdeathnote1]

After yesterdays game I can bet they would beat tsm 11/10 times. (The 11th one is beating their mental)

[@janyoussef7996]

bro i shouldn't flame but bro larssen can you answer a question with more than a simple sentence?

[@afiquesharum234]

larssen be like o_o

[@mysteriousassistant9954]

Close

[@Syzlak360]

the greatest western player ? I would have to say either Perkz, Uma Jan or LukaTheBazooka

[@gvinz797]

It's Caps

[@vddxr7240]

larssen looks like a bobs burgers character

[@maximus8119]

Like I love this show and anything dom and Thooorin do but Jesus brutha answer a question like a human adult the kid may have been the most infuriating guest I’ve ever seen on

[@sleven8013]

Yikes Larssen is really nervous and has some preconceived notion of the show, thinking they’re gonna sell him out. I’m surprised he even accepted seeing how defensive he is. Thorin is just asking open questions, being truthful is up to Larssen. Thorin is saving pretty dire situations. What a professional.

[@jastermareel644]

Time stamp frogs where you at 🐸

[@kuminaah]

where is the timestamp guy

[@jakeoconnell7422]

Can i mute thorin?

[@intiparis5970]

go on spotify dude

[@thais6236]

Dom and Thorin have amazing chemistry

[@axelm4427]

I swear I see this comment everytime the guest is abit "conservative"

[@martinschanda5498]

No, they havent. Dom is totally different compared to facecheck. Je does not feel as comfortable in crack down

[@Shingeki__]

Really wish there were timestamps....

[@ladimuslad]

Mad they got shroud in for a league podcsst

[@zionzorshin1579]

goat western player rn... prob caps which is a fat rip for eu

[@mimism56]

1:19:00 well the segment about Excel aged pretty badly after the last week

[@AYstrength]

Amazing show, amazing guests!

[@feardatd7961]

The balls and package rant need to be saved for all men and women who have sex with men to hear. Sex ed teachers need to use it for reference.

[@dlugi4198]

Only 8 out of 10?

[@em9758]

Yeah, sometimes it happens to me as well, when I press "8" instead of "9"

[@zhangjeffery1326]

I Fan really? It happens when I type all

[@s.l.jackson9152]

i wouldnt even be surprised if it was 7 out of 10 cause finn is always ready for some inting and also larssen is down for some trash plays

[@Xiimen]

Pls hold thorin back a little, larsen is cool guy.

[@tobkromtob8992]

Thorin really Trash talked him from the start. Hopefully he didnt take it Too personal.

[@benjaminp2776]

Hurr Durr Orange Man Bad Hurr Durr

[@dymekmistrz]

Larssen punching pillow while raging is hillarious

[@younghuynh6930]

19:45

[@younghuynh6930]

43:00

[@joefish41]

Please get timestamps for things this long. Some of us don't have 1:49.41 to listen to the whole thing.

[@lilythium]

just dont then

[@joefish41]

@@lilythium Or.......put timestamps and we can enjoy some of it. Otherwise I wont and many others wont and they lose viewership. "just don't then" is a shit response.

[@lilythium]

@@joefish41 this is a live podcast on twitch, this is just the recording, the viewership will be low no matter what because most people who wanna see it already saw it live so it doesnt matter. Also if many people watch just 10mins of a 2hours video, the algorithm will not recomend it and even less people will see it, resulting in lower viewership. you are welcome

[@joefish41]

@@lilythium Not true at all. Plenty of people live in other timezones and watch these on KZbin only hence the KZbin upload. You are factually wrong on everything you have said there. There is a reason all other similar videos by other creators all include timestamps. You are welcome.

[@lilythium]

@@joefish41 yeah, go check them, all the time stamps are put by users on the comments and not by the creators

[@Nnothingg-]

I would put timestamps but this one is just meh

[@PassivesAbseits]

Finishing your highschool education (or the national equvilant) shouldnt be a story, but the norm. Just like it is in Soccer, or Basketball or any other sport. And I am actually talking "think big" here. As in: Team Liquid (or Cloud9, or TSM, any team should think about it) should look to cooperate with an LA Highschool and actually give the most talented, really young LoL Players a chance to finish their basic education, while also being coached and prepared by TL to become a pro gamer... Just like Oak Hill Academy does for basketball prospects. To name the most famous one. And then you find a way how guys like Lurlo (or was it Matt? One of the Breaking Point Stars, who droped out of Highschool for this) can graduate Highschool while playing in the LCS (something that is quite normal in like the German Soccer League...). It would work wonders for the acceptance of esports.

[@ZackCFNA]

Why is that this season, of the crack down a lot of these pro players have been super awkward. I understand they're newer and all, but it's like trying to pull teeth with these guys. They think if they say one offensive thing, or fuck with the wrong person they'll be witch-hunted or something.

[@thomasparramore2005]

febiven is 2nd best mid in EU

[@yhlee1205]

Can someone ffs give thorin a decent mic

[@alekosadukov9639]

Bro can you play league? Please love you

[@str8harry]

I like NA's mentality of talk shit on their own region relentlessly as if they're not apart of the reason for why it's so shitty. It's just like the actual country itself!

[@FireFox1671]

BJERG is clearly the best player of all time

[@David-zq8sk]

I think you meant to say bjerg is clearly the winningest mid laner in NA. You got a few words wrong.

[@DoatesndMore]

Dom is actually really good host. Thorin should talk less imo. I want to hear the guest more than thorin

[@dbrown992]

Dom is the anchor- this is how it works. Dom is more like Thorin is here, when he’s with loco and dgon, bc dgon is the anchor. Every multi talent stream needs someone to leash the others to key points/questions etc.

[@belesir8847]

Thorin is a bad interviewer,. The first thing you learn about interviewing if you take journalism is to maximize the amount your interviewee is talking. Like you said, the audience wants to hear from the guest, not Thorin giga rambling for 70% of the show.

[@vandijkdeligt7049]

@@belesir8847 but you can watch other episodes and its the case no? its just this one where the guest is barely talking when asked a question

[@daddymacsac]

Lieh Tzu this show is a talk show. It isn’t really an interview. Have you ever watched any true interviews that thorin has done? He leaves plenty of space for the interviewee to talk while also pressing in deeper on interesting topics that come up during the interview. I just don’t consider this a interview per say.

[@belesir8847]

@@daddymacsac His "true" interviews are even worse sometimes. There will be times where he talks for like 5 minutes setting up his question, then the guest gives a one or two line answer.

[@countbleck4026]

Time stamps: Start: 00:00 End: 1:49:41 Edit: added end

[@xverzetroll9417]

Can you include the ending timestamp please. I know it is too much to ask but I'm struggling to find the episode ending

[@ncokicsi]

End: 1:49:41

[@stipemasnic6838]

Thanks

[@jt10dcma]

Thank you. Couldn't figure out how to jump to the start of the episode 😂

[@yoyoyoyoyoyoyoyooyoooooooo]

You did a better job then the editor did! Fire current editor dom and hire this dude

[@joelkrizski778]

Yeah don't invite this guy back lol