Cracking the Cryptic/Crypton Genetic Puzzle 🧩 JKR-U

[@MutationCreationCanada]

Awesome video and in depth explanation. Appreciate the shoutout also my friend.

[@FALCONJOE1]

These videos are so informative and important to the new aspiring ball python keeper and breeder. Thanks for all that you do.

[@pythonic2020]

Great breakdown! Thanks Justin. I’m sure this will give many of us a better grasp on how the genes work.

[@GeekyGeckoCreations]

yeh very interesting indeed thank you for taking the time to go thru this! :D :D

[@BBMReptilesPR]

This is a very complex gene to understand. Looking fwd to seeing what you guys can find and prove out.

[@TheRoyalConstrictor]

Excellent video, Justin! Cryptic/Crypton is an amazing project with excellent potential. I think a lot of viewers will understand their genetics much better after watching this!

[@reptilesrodents]

it's always great to have a disruptive video. on the other side though I bet like I already understand all of it. You probably got a percentage like me that doesn't get much out of the video. but it's still a good video you can point out as a reference to someone learning how genetics work.

[@jkmorphs]

These types of videos are greatly appreciated. Love the U logo in the intro background. JKR University!

[@EquitySolutionRayRaz]

Can’t wait to see what type of amazing Changes Cryptic brings to the table with some basic but holy cow combos

[@jimspapperi8399]

Love the dry side!!! Please more more. Great work!!

[@GeekyGeckoCreations]

AWESOME!!!!!

[@ctr4meta447]

Love the "dry side" and the punnett squares!

[@snakesontheplain1571]

Great video and content! Thanks so much for taking the time to make this. I'll for one would definitely enjoy and watch more of this kind of video!

[@bzexoticz3933]

Glad to have some more clarity moving forward! As someone working clown, I have been really interested in adding cryptic. Really appreciate all the information you share with the community.

[@Balls2U]

Thank you for sharing Justin 👌🏼

[@lukefriedel4744]

U r the smartest guy I know that can talk in depth about different genes give u props man keep up the awesome work!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏

[@thomasanson6033]

I love this type of video. It actually helped me grasp these concepts so much better!!!

[@MrChrisj228]

I actually like this kind of video. Thanks for posting.

[@SpartanReptiles]

Definitely a new learning curve to work with. Very interesting and informative

[@chriscrisafulli798]

I love this one! Awesome video Justin, thank you for the in depth explanation!! Definitely do more like this please.

[@edwinralph45]

Really useful Justin! I’m very new to ball pythons, my son got his first just a few months ago. We’ve been watching loads of videos back as we’d like to breed some and I find the genetic videos I’ve come across so useful. Obviously it’s always great to see the amazing combos especially with the egg cutting but some videos like this showing the science behind how we get there is so helpful. Would love to see more. Thanks so much and keep up the good work.

[@SurvivorVio]

Hi I am a biologist with part of my degree in genetics and genome analytics Scientificly correct you would call them as followed: KK : homozygote cryptic KC : heterozygote cryptic but visual since you can not tell them apart You would need to say "visual cryptic 33% homozygote" or "visual cryptic 66% heterozygote". The normal looking Babies from the het clown to the crypton pairing Are "100% heterozygote clown or cryptic" and I think this would be the best way to name them. Leaving the possible out since there is no possibility because they are 100% het, we just don't know the allel for sure.

[@royalreptiles3722]

Love these type of educational videos! Hope to see more from JKR-U!

[@teddydalton8507]

I think that the best way to name either/or allelic hets is to call them a het for whatever the allelic combo is. So a het clown or cryptic would be het crypton, a het for either albino or toffee could be a het toffino and even taking it into the incomplete dominant world, a yellowbelly or asphalt could be called a het freeway. In the case of a morphmarket ad or ad on some other platform, further detail as to what the pairing was or the long form (i.e. 'het for either clown or cryptic') could be used, and the 'het crypton' tag would be a useful shorthand.

[@EchoReptiles]

Love the video bro.. Very informational, can't wait to see more information on this allelic combo. Class was in session 🔥💯

[@noahcollins608]

Yeah please more on just genetics!!

[@theconstrictortribe847]

Thanks for breaking it down. Great vid Justin.

[@ridiculousreptiles7045]

Nice video Justin... excellent explanation on Cryptic & Clown being allelic & the breakdown of the odds when paired. 👌🏼

[@melissahenderson5359]

Love this video! I would love to see more like it.

[@Bafutbeagle]

Can’t believe you have so few subscribers you are a must watch for anyone breeding ball pythons. How about an update on your Boelen Pythons?

[@timfoil2319]

Yes I would like to see more videos like this.

[@yokaireptiles1913]

Great video Justin! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@EliteExoticsBp]

Very cool so it’s like a co/dom recessive? Very interesting for sure, thanks for explaining 🥳🤟✌️🤙take care brother Look forward to the next one

[@marias6675]

I truly truly truly love this video Justin I hope you truly truly make more videos like this about jeans cuz you are teaching people that's just becoming and the hobby big shout-out from gratitude reptiles

[@lazywolfreptiles]

Great video, Justin. Would love to see more videos like this and can’t wait for part 2 to this one. Thanks so much!

[@myherpshed1298]

Great video and info,thank you Justin.... 👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏

[@yournameisfamous9429]

Looking forward to a follow up on this!

[@throughbredballs8215]

Thanks for posting. Amazing break down for sure.

[@moniquehebert2763]

Interesting! I actually Don't like snakes but I watch these shows bc the genetics and the different combos and colors are fascinating. I do like the community and a lot of these companies who breed BP's. Thanks

[@Master_Orange_TTV]

I love your informative stuff! Please keep it coming

[@voodooexotics230]

😳Wowww!! 😳Great video, as usual👍🏾

[@elliotperez5071]

Great way to start the year

[@AcadiaBallPythons]

Great info

[@josephferrara4861]

Loving the deeper genetics!

[@livinginthesip8511]

Knowledge! Thank you

[@irobertturner]

Loved the info. I would like to get more info on genetics and how they work together. Thank you

[@adamcomer463]

This video is really helpful, and I actually understand it lol billy made a video on this before I did not understand all the way. I would definitely recommend these videos to any beginner

[@SmallTownXotics]

Great video! More please 🤘🏻

[@jjl499]

Unbelievable video! I never understood genetics and never ramy cared too I’m just a snake lover and I want to ty for this video!

[@tullysoutregiusroyals]

Superb explanation.

[@husbandrypro]

Thank you. Great video.

[@musiccityballs5449]

Great video. Love videos like these!

[@nonamexotics4664]

Great info. Thx buddy

[@806pythons7]

Great info, thanks. Stay Safe!

[@harmony7839]

I love this stuff .. Thank you

[@RakuzaKamikaze]

Love the genetic videos. I would love to see what happens when you breed 2 of the same dominant genes since there’s no super.

[@MrBeathard]

Please more detailed dry stuff. Also more videos on how to id morphs and combos.

[@rudyadames8380]

That explained a lot thank you so much

[@scottlucidi6476]

i like these explanations.

[@johnnyg.snakes3901]

When you think you know ball python genetics 🤯 then boom you get hit with allelic recessive 🔥 sick content man!

[@handheldlover4004]

Hate to burst your bubble but this isn't the only case of this. Candy and Albino do the same reaction called Candino.

[@johnnyg.snakes3901]

@@handheldlover4004 cool man. didn't know that. do you know of any other allelic recessive combos?

[@djowen23]

Great video you broke it down perfectly food for thought though if you break it down like that on paper and then show example of the snake at the same time I think that would make a cool video but keep up the good work bro love your work

[@craigbrownfield4313]

Great video Justin it really helps nebes like me

[@repsecure1924]

First Id like to say I respect Justin hugely but the Cryptic was initally called the Carnival Clowns and were produced by KJay of Windsor On, Canada. There was a huge debate if they were really nice clowns or there was something genetic going on. In the end KJay dropped the tag Carnival Clowns. Other may have went on to have these animals in their collection but KJay produced the first cryptic. Id also like to say it could be that KJay acquired the founding animals from the Bells as the first Pastels in Canada came from Greg Graziani but this is yet to be determined.

[@morrisnakes]

In the corn snake realm we have lots of these (ultramel, hypoberry, etc) and we usually would say the equivalent of "het crypton" and everyone knows, okay it's het something, we just aren't sure if it's clown or cryptic.

[@mkeene5590]

More videos like this

[@leroymasten5104]

Cool

[@canaanval]

Same mode of inheritance with Toffee/Candy in combination with Albino...as well as being a common occurrence in other species.

[@AnthonyVasquezEndZz]

This is great, love it, confused by you using co-dom instead of incomplete dominant. I find that when using punnett tables dominant and recessive describes the genotype. While incomplete and co-dom describes the phenotype for allelic traits. When describing non-allelic traits they are nearly all incomplete-dominant. While some can be described in more detail to be said to behave co-dominantly such as the pied.

[@Dan_Slee]

Just to clear this up, outside of the Ball Python/Reptile community, Codominance is the same thing as dominant. Incompletely dominant means the allele does not fully supress the expression of the other allele in a heterozygous form, or to more simply state it, you can see a difference between a homozygous normal, a heterozygote of the trait and normal, and the homozygous of the trait. Codominant, or Dominant would mean that whether there is 1 (het) or 2 (homo) copies of the trait, it is visually the same and indistinguishable. There has been a ton of confusion over this since the late 90s/early 2000s about this, but understanding the difference and why they are different helps dramatically in understanding breeding projects. To take it even further you can say that whether or not something is considered Recessive, Incompletely Dominant, or Completely Dominant is dependent on the landscape that is the phenotype. For example, when Pieds were still new to the hobby they were considered strictly recessive, in that the "normal" phenotype coming from Africa at the time showed no difference from a het for pied. Now after decades of people having them and becoming familiar with their progeny, there are visual differences that can be used to reliably predict whether an offspring is "het for pied" or not. Part of this is us getting better at seeing it, and part of it is the bottleneck of genetics within the USA since wild caught/captive hatched imports are mostly a thing of the past. The phenotype of "normal" and the commonality of other genes that change the phenotype (multi gene animals are all the rage) means we could start calling Pied incompletely dominant to a degree.

[@ianborchert2529]

Same with candy/albino/candino

[@repsecure1924]

This is a very complex gene and seems to be connected to other genes and they may be allelic but I wont name them without being 100% accurate.

[@lanedj801]

No chances of normals in hets because if allelic division from the parent pairing. Very interesting. Too bad the visual het situation isn’t distinguished.

[@flatinsandiego9806]

That’s a lot of 33’s.

[@Bessler85]

So there is pretty good odds owning bell line dg that I should breed to a clown an see

[@joshscritchfield693]

So if you breed a crypton to a normal you get het cryptics and het clowns

[@oregonexoticballs]

I just hit a DG Crypton. Before Billy explained cryptic/crypton I thought they were just really nice normals because DH dg clown. Lol if only the DG Crypton I hit was Male

[@colinryan4031]

So in the first pairing no dg would go into that pairing?

[@KaijuLover85]

Can you explain a het cryptic to het clown? I have a normal 100% double het Cryptic/DG and i would like to know what the offsprings will come out with het to het

[@KINOVAReptiles]

You will have 1 in 4 chance of hitting a crypton (dbl het cryptic clown), any animal that is not visual crypton (dbl het cryptic clown) will be 66% het cryptic OR clown.

[@jodielejeune7278]

I know this is an old video so I'm not sure if this question has been addressed/answered yet or not. But at 7:24 in the video, why couldn't the 2 normals be listed as 50% HET Cryptic AND 66% HET Clown? Since in that particular example paring, except let's assume those genetic percentages are positively known in the parents of only one parent is 100% HET Cryptic, but both parents are 100% HET Clown, so isn't that the usual way of listing those recessive percentages for babies??? 50% HET for a recessive gene if only one parent is 100% HET for that gene? & 66% HET for a recessive gene if both parents are each 100% HET for that gene? Or am I just not understanding something correctly because yes this is very confusing of allelic recessives lol.

[@jodielejeune7278]

Nevermind... I'm stupid lol. I get it now... I wasnt looking at the number of genes ACTUALLY left over 🤦‍♀️🤣 I'm kinda slow I apologize!!

[@bigharrykochenbauls4567]

I've been holding off on adding this to my clowns until someone has definitive science..

[@bigharrykochenbauls4567]

Too much [YB or Gravel] vibe :/

[@reptilesrodents]

It works a lot like the whole toffee albino's that make the allelic toffino.

[@WillsHellaHeat]

With visual Cryptics and Cryptons can you test for clown and anything neg for clown is Cryptic and positive for het clown would be crypton ? or does it not work that way ?

[@KINOVAReptiles]

Correct ! It does

[@DdraigGwyn]

The normals that are possible het Cryptic or Clown would it not make sense to mark them as "50% het Cryptic || Clown" or "50% het Cryptic ⊻ Clown" I guess that would also mean people would need to understand the OR symbols 🤷‍♂️

[@Mercilesswon]

Other then no visual differences, between the cryptic and crypton. This is the same exact thing as candy/albino.

[@hamder17]

But have you seen the animals from crypton x crypton..they look Nothing like clown og cryptic 😅

[@raybrozzo7850]

This hobby is just like the 🏜️ 👻 gene and just gets better and BETTER and there are a lot of amazing things but u could see em coming.....Allelic recessive genes was not SUMPIN I SEEN COMING

[@ballzofparadise1236]

227👍

[@jimiwilliams7176]

You need to find a difference between the cryptic and the crypton to sort it out then its done but to look at there is no difference so its not going to be easy good luck

[@jimiwilliams7176]

If anyone can do it you will so the project is in the right hands good luck keep the videos coming

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[@reptilesrodents]

hey man I hope you get back to 100% keep up that hard work. You got this.

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@@reptilesrodents thanks man I appreciate it yeah I got this they can't stop me no retreat no surrender no surrender no defeat I appreciate the good Vibes

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[@jacobaldridge579]

not a superman fan huh.

[@lorgagssertao4036]

Who the heck "thumbs down" this video?! Bloody haters...

[@lorgagssertao4036]

If you have a hater Justin, then it must mean you made it in the BP hobby! You finally are somebody!! LOL!! I'm kidding! :D

[@dubldee5364]

Hey! This wasn't sudoku!! 😂😁

[@Dan_Slee]

Ugh the use of the term "double het" to describe an animal that is HETEROZYGOUS (Het.) is confusing and problematic. They are not double het, they are heterozygous at the same locus for two non normal traits. Double het implies you are talking about multiple locii, such as a double het lavender albino/clown. Also it is not correct and is confusing to keep saying the "allele" when you should be saying locus/locii. The location where the alleles reside is the locus. There are 3 alleles being discussed for that locus, Clown, Kryptic, and Normal. Also when you describe the unknown "het" offspring in scenario 2, they would be 50/50% Het. Clown OR Kryptic. 0% Het. Normal would be another way of putting it. For scenario #3, the non homozygous clowns would all three be 33% Het for Kryptic as that is the smallest chance, which follows the normal convention for nomenclature. You would be correct saying they are 66% het for Krypton as well, but that would be like saying 0% het for normal. A weird way of stating it, counter to the normal naming convention.

[@NavaReptiles]

Great stuff Justin, very informative!

[@justinblauvelt7211]

Def appreciate the educational side...sometimes for someone new trying to understand all the different morphs and gene combination is enough to make you scream!! (In joy)(and frustration) so from one Justin to another thank you and plz keep up the educational side of your vlog...Who wouldn't want to learn from one of the best in the business 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂