Sub-$500 Mini-LED 34-Inch Ultrawide... what's the catch? - Innocn 34M1R Review

[@circuitrewind]

Oh hey, hi, yes, its me, one of the people you blinded with the monitor at PDXLAN!

[@NoiseStaticBlur]

I would buy a 400$ version with a basic stand and no soundbar. No matter how good the soundbar or the stand get, it won't ever get close to proper speakers and a monitor arm.

[@jon4715]

I refuse to buy a monitor with a sound bar and would pay more for a simpler monitor…means less money wasted on junk features.

[@almc8445]

I like the good quality stand but the charger is definitely not necessary. And a really shitty built in speaker can be handy for troubleshooting and testing but I definitely agree no soundbar.

[@LordChariot]

Hey Jeff @craftcomputing, some B-roll of the back, connectors, buttons, stand, etc. would be useful for these kinds of reviews for our decision making process.

[@almc8445]

Yes! This is the sort of thing reviewers ALWAYS miss. Stop spitting number at me, show me the size, IO, and most importantly menus - He mentioned issues with the firmware, show them? Is is fast and responsive when trying to change settings or does it take 30 for each input?

[@joeykeilholz925]

​​@@almc8445yea and overdrive mode (which is best, is there a single overdrive mode that works across refresh rates) is the first thing I'd think about with a new display

[@MauriBT]

U need to set the maximum brightness via Windows HDR Calibration from Microsoft Store, default is 450nits

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

Nice to see reviews of these less known brands.. Loving my KTC 240hz 1440p oled i got for $500...

[@whimsicalsociety119]

Doing my part to keeping the lights on.... Mine arrived yesterday! So far Loving it! Keep up the great work Jeff!

[@douglasmurphy3266]

I'm guessing the soundbar is really just a cover-up for a giant bezel, they couldn't make it thinner without the speakers.

[@RilsR]

Interesting you say that, now I notice the top and sides have a bezel flush with the screen, but the bottom of the screen terminates at the plastic.

[@TheNumbersPerson]

For the price it's not bad, but it would compete so much better if the soundbar was removed to lower the price further, or improved to acceptable levels and the price raised a little to compensate. Nice to see smaller companies doing well! Just gotta work on the marketing honesty and quality of secondary components like the soundbar.

[@almc8445]

Just toss the sound bar, and the wireless charger while they’re at it! And hey if a price decrease doesn’t come of that I don’t care, they’re doing great work and deserve to keep the 50c they saved anyway!

[@1leggeddog]

Lil tip for the future: More b-roll shots of the monitor from all sides, especially the inputs. Also, which vesa is it? 75x75 or 100x100? And this being an ultrawide, dimensions matter

[@almc8445]

100x100, and I definitely agree about the b-roll, show us more!

[@jasontechlord]

Oh please, It's perfectly fine for Marvel as their color pallet doesn't differ much from mud.

[@TheGameBench]

We definitely need more UW options in mini-LED for mixed usage scenarios. I won't use OLED for my productivity machine that I also game on, mostly due to the sub pixel layout, but also for burn in. Too bad this falls well short of true HDR10.

[@ben-3467]

LOL my youtube resolution is so fantastic that the Innocn logo reads moon

[@legendarytr1bal]

That's no moon...

[@zorbakaput8537]

Haha clever, reminds me of my friends who asked me who makes the KN brand motorcar when they see a KIA drive by.

[@OctagonalSquare]

@@BenStatedoesn’t matter if your screen isn’t that big. Like on a phone, which is the most common device type on KZbin

[@KiraSlith]

480p, because Google doesn't like the fact there's 3 people in my house that watch lots of KZbin instead of TV. I tend to watch/listen while I tweak my AI prompt library.

[@ben-3467]

@@BenState yeah but since youtube is what it is lately it just refreshes my screen and puts it back on auto

[@pyroslev]

Came back, watching this for a third time. And on this same monitor. Nabbed it on Prime Day and it's been a treat so far. Replaced 2 27" 1440p screens with this.

[@krjal3038]

Great review! Sounds like this screen isn't for me but it's progress in some areas and that's good news. I really appreciate being given the pros and cons without any sugar coating

[@DJSammy69.]

At this amazing price point this would be top tier.

[@coryjames4294]

Just saw this review, looked it up, and it's $115 off so i snagged it and will be returning the KTC Ultrawide Monitor thats coming tomorrow. I wanted a Mini LED monitor and your review sold me. Its mainlu for gaming and watching movies, not for work. I have a 27 inch LG Ultragear monitor for that.

[@System51]

I like that T-Shirt. Where can I get it?

[@juliuszgimbut763]

Do you know by any chance if this one is similar to Acer X34 V3? Looks like the latter, and also has VA panel with 2304 dimming zones. I am looking forward to it because my productivity work would definitely result in burn in and I would like some HDR for my gaming as the space for screen is quite limited (no chance for two monitors). Not many choices since there's Phillips Evnia and Lenovo both UWQHD but Evnia is the smearing one and there is still only few revievs of Y34wz-30 present (some customer reviews in my country adress poor KVM management and only 384 zones). I thought couple years ago that minileds would be affordable passage between lcd and oled. Sholudn't they be by now 😂?

[@VaughnCraddock]

Love your reviews. Thanks for your hard work and detail.

[@AnirudhTammireddy]

My man it's barely been 5 mins.

[@silasmayes7954]

I was considering getting this until you mentioned the brightness. I really like ultrawides and wanted to see if there was a good mini LED ultrawide. At that brightness an OLED is just a better option.

[@greenprotag]

I suppose the lack of user presets especially ruins the KVM aspect...

[@Chewchewman]

What's kvm mean exactly? I swear I was told before but I'm asking you because you seem knowledgeable

[@CraftComputing]

Keyboard, Video, Mouse switcher. Allows a single set of peripherals to connect to multiple PCs.

[@greenprotag]

yep what jeff said

[@joeykeilholz925]

Very good point. This can be life or death for kvms

[@NicksStuff]

What is the *minimum* brightness setting, though?

[@jcdenton7914]

That BenQ you mention with built in soundbar, it erases many sounds because it's artificially enhanced terrible speakers. I had it and I returned it after sound testing it, you can have speakers that sound cheap in comparison that manage to capture sounds better without making some tones completely vanish.

[@Vermintide2]

I see this has a sRGB clamp, by chance, do you know if the monitor is 99% sSRGB in Standard Color setting where gamma is changeable outside of sRGB color setting?

[@paulbrooks4395]

Hmm, I value color accuracy for HDR and role playing games, especially now that RTX HDR is common. For games like Cyberpunk, color sets the mood when it's good, really turning up the immersion factor. I am not very sensitive to ghosting, but I am sensitive to screen sync, flicker, and tearing, which is something I have found that isn't always compatible with Nvidia GPUs and FreeSync. Having recently switched to a calibrated high color accuracy laptop with Gsync, I can say that I honestly prefer the image quality it puts out over even desktop screens. It's just that much better. However, I rate very highly in color accuracy tests and also have 20/15 vision, so I notice all those details in ways that other people won't.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

Oh I understand your problems a lot. At a former job I was designing the adverts we were sending to papers. The first time was a horrible experience. I had no idea my monitor at work was that bad at colors. I ended up using pantone colors so I knew what they were going to look like in print. Personally I'm quite sensitive to tearing, so FreeSync and G-Sync has helped a lot. Funnily enough I'm not particularly sensitive to refresh rates so really high refresh isn't important for me. As for light level... Well I have very rarely felt the need for more than 20% of the light level. Actually I kind of hate really bright monitors. They hurt to watch. Kind of strange that I always use light mode. A white background and black letters is what I like.

[@milescarter7803]

Do you use ClickMonitorDDC or similar to avoid the monitor's built in menu? Also 27"-32" OLED is getting to around the same price. I think anyone would go for the OLED. Also pro gamers like a 24" screen?

[@magnus33john]

Yeah they fudged the facts quite a lot about this monitor. Hdr is not what it says it is and color production is a struggle for it. Most of them have a high pitch whine to them...power issue likely. It's also 100hz and not 165hz as its hdmi 2.0 not 2.1 Its got major blooming issues which is painful clear if a computer in sleep mode. It's not not vesa verified hdr1000 even though they claim it is and as mentioned it can't meet the requirements for it. The biggest reason to stay away from it is they purposely fudged the facts with intention to mislead. This should be a hard pass for anyone and i would guess these monitors are already showing high failure rates.

[@fwiler]

Display port does 165hz. I haven't seen a monitor do hdr correctly yet. Color production is better than a lot of monitors. Most people wouldn't notice p3 at 90% let alone know how to even color grade a video. Or even switch to the correct color space and instead just leave it at srgb because that's how everyone else will view it. Haven't seen blooming issues so can't comment on that.

[@magnus33john]

@@fwiler Like most of the info there fudging the facts. The actually speed for the display port is 144hs although the difference between the two is negligible for the user Color production for monitors of that price point is no great although you can find worse. Adobe is frankly a joke and its just not capable of get close to in range. Messing with the color space would not change this. The hdr 1000 is a outright lie with this thing only reach hdr 400 constantly atlough given its color reproduction issue with hdr they likely couldn't get certification for that either. Its not the worse monitor but it tried doing too many things and ended up doing most of then bad. For gaming though it would likely be good due to the brightness and the mini led making ghosting minimal. The reliability and report high pitched whine for many may make this a issue though. The biggest problem is they outright lied about specs, not fudged some number like many do but outright lied. That's always a bad sign

[@joeykeilholz925]

Fully agree. There's already enough misleading crap in this segment like HDR400 and HDMI standards naming

[@MinorLG]

I think next time one of my monitors dies, I might replace 2 with one of these. I'll keep my 5:4, my Oddesy, and pick up this

[@JackWse]

If it's a mini LED, how does the backlight array performance work in gaming scenarios? I mean that's kind of like.. a large point of getting mini LED, and thus far it seems that has been a feature that is somewhat lacking in the computer monitor space.. also, is the HDR 10, thousand nit claim just completely false? Or is there like a way that it could possibly achieve that with compromises? Just kind of a thing where it's like if they're going to lie like that straight up, that's not a good sign, like at the very least you know qualifying lie.. otherwise it's like, what else are they lying about?

[@koopa2k]

ooooohhhhh I want!!!! shame that it's only available in the good old USofA and Amazon want to charge another 50% fee to ship it across the pond :(

[@KiraSlith]

A direct upgrade from my Sceptre C30 so soon?! Really? Darn!

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Does it have usb-c pd out+dp in over one cable?

[@dirkjewitt5037]

My Samsung Neo is a Mini-LED 4k. OLED next time.

[@nobodytoyou4887]

Now if only they had this tech in a 22-24" non-curved 1080p monitor..... getting harder and harder to find these days (would buy 3 to replace my current 3 from acer, for my custom ultra-wide setup using NV Surround). and no sound bar crap >.>

[@melissas3130]

I love your shirt, where can i get one like it

[@PulsatingShadow]

Locker room of your local YMCA

[@Trigath]

I guess people actually use built-in speakers then?

[@dylanevans5644]

A Delta-E of 0.09? I find that highly unlikely, even for the lowest variance. A professional, level $30k monitor will achieve an average of around 1, with a maximum of 1-1.5.

[@RealityCheck6969]

Monitors doing anything above 120 hertz makes no sense to me. Most games won't run at 120 fps at ultra quality nowadays. So what's the point?

[@joeykeilholz925]

Google "rtx 4090".

[@coryjames4294]

Huh? I am playing games at 165hz with my 7900xt. If you're thinking about 4K then yes a lot of gpus minus the 4090 will struggle but that's why you turn down some settings.

[@carlosalbertoch]

Who wants to run games at ultra when the difference is minimal between ultra and high, and you get way more frames per second, which are a lot more noticeable? I choose higher frame rates over ultra settings any day of the week.

[@thatzaliasguy]

*Innocn* is pronounced "Ee-no-kee-ehn" like *Enochian,* the language of the Angels.

[@JackWse]

Speakers that can fit on your desk, are not worthy speakers, even less so should they be replaceable by OEM built-in nonsense... But should you have to suffer through The bookshelf size of shame, simply find a local thrift store, probably not a goodwill, any other, simply test the satellite speakers of a boombox, test them all, bring speaker wire, bring RCA, bring adapters, find the ones that still sing.. I've had good results with competent mid and tweets, when paired with a much cheaper base focused matching, using either dual receivers if they are only 5.1, matching it with a stereo or another 5.1 of quality.. then manually configuring the crossover to sound appropriate. This is the way, until the better way when The shame will be atomized by speakers that stand as tall as the desk, and the crossover, the soundstage has been perfected,

[@joeykeilholz925]

Its bezel has a bezel? 😂 Edit: Oh my god...... It's a soundbar 🤨😂😂😂😂 absolutely not. Also slightly too curved. Backshots also next time 👀

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Get rid if the sound bar and chi charger. Build the power brick into the monitor. Then reduce the price appropriately

[@Pholiee]

innocon?? its inno-CN lol

[@THEdeadRETURNED]

somehow this is $999 in canada lmao

[@CraftComputing]

Check AliExpress. They were going for $475 earlier today over there.

[@SSSTIERWAIFU]

Holy Mother of CHIN..... What the Hell is that?????

[@KiraDenys]

Love the shirt!

[@CraftComputing]

Thanks!

[@ThisGuy-kk1lp]

I would only pay maybe $350 if i was drunk or on a good day this display sucks.

[@Mtaalas]

I never liked anything but IPS and oled... IPS has best colour and contrast and viewing angles, but lacks on speed and are generally more expensive. but speed never bothered me. Oleds have burn-in issues and they're expensive, but beat everything in colour, contrast and speed... but they hod power. And when you pay your own bills, that's a no no. TN and MVA etc. panels have always been lack luster to me for productivity :/ And what it's worth.. screen's a screen, not a hi-fi station. You get separate speakers or you're always going to have bad sound quality.

[@hineighbor]

that catch is it's a piece of crap

[@jon4715]

Truth?

[@kritikusi-666]

"I don't do any monitor reviews unless the price is right" There I updated that for you.

[@Deebofreebo]

Not a single shot of the back. 😕