Just goes to show you, you should never judge a book by its cover. What an honest interview and a lot, people can take from it regarding looking after yourself mentally
@McCrea210609 Жыл бұрын
He's described my experience of mental health. I'm 41 and never sought help. I will now. Thanks Craig.
@tbloomfield2 Жыл бұрын
Good luck pal! Taking the first step is the hardest part
@noelflynn6930 Жыл бұрын
Don't take any pills mate keep your mind active learn to like yourself give yourself small goals to work towards don't make anyone your happiness...You will get there mate
@barry5580 Жыл бұрын
45 near 46 ... Got me first meeting with the head doctor on Monday 😬 *BARRY* 🎉
@VelvetMetrolink Жыл бұрын
Good luck mate.
@skiptracerbob11 ай бұрын
Go well, mate.
@pie5811 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderfully, candid, open and free interviewee Craig was. This only comes with shared knowledge of how the game has been over the past 20 years. RIP Gary Speed. None of his playing allegiances sat with me but I hope his wonderful spirit is at, and will remain, at peace.
@straysunshineband Жыл бұрын
Fair play to him for owning his past and admitting he was wrong with so many things. He’s clearly working on himself and his issues 🙌🏻
@adamkoz6358 Жыл бұрын
Aren’t we all working on ourselves and our issues brother
@straysunshineband Жыл бұрын
@@adamkoz6358 We are mate! And It’s refreshing to hear people being so open and honest about it 🙏
@JDTStagg- Жыл бұрын
@@adamkoz6358 Unfortunately not. Not everybody takes accountability for things that they have done in the past.
@allanmurray9964 Жыл бұрын
We should be bud, we should be @@adamkoz6358
@steviekenny581 Жыл бұрын
Ok Doc!🤦🏻
@ciaransmith128 Жыл бұрын
Really good interview Gary. Bellamy showing what a real man he is with his open and honest way of talking. Class all round.
@jakeoconnor2014 Жыл бұрын
If Roy Keane listened to the first 4 minutes of this he'd have plenty to say about the noises coming out of Gary 😂
@Mark-pz9xw Жыл бұрын
Some classic Gary-gasms in there!!
@joeheaton7607 Жыл бұрын
Orgazm
@r4h4al Жыл бұрын
Eh?
@agb1814 Жыл бұрын
Roy would’ve thought Gary was in cuckoo land
@TheAlphaDingo Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, sounds like Gary's stones got sucked back into his body but Keane was overrated as a football 'tough guy'. Wouldn't take much to batter the potato out of him tbh, all bark, minimal bite.
@stevieg4198 Жыл бұрын
Never been a fan but this completely opened my eyes and changed my opinion. Fair play to him, it takes a brave person to be that honest
@tommydonegan4317 Жыл бұрын
Should read his book too, it’s unreal
@tomjackson4690 Жыл бұрын
Thought exactly the same. Completely changed my opinion of him
@badofcheese Жыл бұрын
The plan worked then!
@somisak Жыл бұрын
Always thought he was a top player,didn't like him as a character.but he has spoken well here.fair play
@Cundy34411 ай бұрын
Had the same view, met him in 2012 when the Army got pulled into do the security at the Olympics. I got on the Team GB football teams bus. The majority were arseholes. Giggs couldn’t be arsed to speak. Bellamy gave me 5 minutes of his time. Real nice, down to earth guy and changed my view massively. A lot of time when I see him in the media now.
@Rljlsl1985 Жыл бұрын
Really changed my opinion of Craig Bellamy after this. Loves his honesty / truthfulness. One of the best interviews yet. Thanks Craig for being real. Open and sincere. Wish you all the best mate.
@diarmaidgorman5176 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview again and Gary is an excellent interviewer - he knows when to probe, when to interrupt & when to sit there and just listen to his guest. And Bellamy comes across really well here, owning his mistakes & working incredibly hard to be a better person and acknowledge that he had issues that he needed to work on. Great stuff all round and very important
@SteveTheReve Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Craig Bellamy Show 🍀 Loved him at Celtic. Honestly believe if he stayed longer he would’ve been up there with Larsson as one of our best ever strikers.
@user-ls1lu7gu4u Жыл бұрын
There was no better manager at understanding people than Bobby. Best English manger ever. The influence he had in football as a whole.
@amc5966 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. Just an amazing man manager that even made it easy in the modern era.
@concreteoverwater Жыл бұрын
That’s Sir Bobby to you
@ste2442 Жыл бұрын
Bob Paisley
@Delpiero17 Жыл бұрын
Didn't sir Bobby's record at Newcastle read he never EVER lost 3 games in a row? And I'm sure this was after the "not so sexy football" played under Ruud Gullit??? I maybe wrong of anyone knows I'll happily be corrected/schooled.
@leef-r2583 Жыл бұрын
Alf Ramsey?
@jh06ok Жыл бұрын
He was incredible in his one season at Blackburn. Playing in an average side but felt like he could score any time he touched the ball.
@michaeldoyle1222 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Love Craig Bellamy. Always honest and a truly great player. Zola once said Bellamy could have been world class if his knees weren’t so damaged.
@nickcraig1052 Жыл бұрын
Amazingly honest interview! Loved watching Craig play at NUFC, what a player. Thank you and good luck to Craig!
@OBraveNewWorld Жыл бұрын
One of the best interviews so far, Craig spoke openly and honestly and was important to hear him discussing keeping tabs on his mental health and for him to reflect on his past, respect to him also on admitting his wrongs.
@Daniel_Addy Жыл бұрын
One of the best Interviews Gary has done.... Almost everything Craig said struck a chord with me - listening to him and understanding his inner hatred for himself made me really reflect. Almost like I know the solution for him, but I can't accept it for myself! Bellamy is such an engaging fella. His comment about being different and not belonging..... Jeez - I know that one! Mad thing is.... Most people would think i'm uber confident and on point, but i'm anything but that and Craig's the same! I know most days are still a battle for him! Just keep going lad :)
@sheapyfpv8224 Жыл бұрын
Bet shearer was a right teacher's pet what a rat
@jamesmilne635110 ай бұрын
So good to see Craig being so open. It’s hard to open up and he’s taking full responsibility for his past mistakes. Hats off to you Craig maybe I’ll get the same courage one day
@smishking123456789 Жыл бұрын
Everyone already has an opinion of Bellamy based on his persona on the field. But this interview shows the intelligent, thoughtful, and insightful person he is. Great interview.
@oscarwright7656 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely adored Bellamy at West Ham. During a bit of a dark time for the club, anytime he came on the pitch I always felt like we had a chance
@matthewdoolan2257 Жыл бұрын
Big time man, worked his bollocks off and the fact he got a move to City afterwards shows he had plenty to offer
@PickeringSamuel11 ай бұрын
Just got half way through the Michael Owen interview on WillHill. Had to turn it off because all he did was talk about how perfect he was and how he never did anything wrong, criticising others for their mistakes. Then the difference in this interview with Craig is night and day. What an honest humble man he's become, fascinating, inspiring and brave. Another note I wouldn't be surprised if Craig had ADD or ASD, I have ASD and he sounds like hes had very similar struggles. The fact hes had these struggle makes his achievements even more impressive.
@hyllaf3 ай бұрын
very good point. Owen is sooo smarmy, it's unreal
@Delboy0 Жыл бұрын
When his mind was right and in form, he could be unplayable. I still remember his game against Barcelona for Liverpool in the Nou Camp where he terrorised them more than Rise’s legs. He was one of the angriest strikers the Prem has ever seen.
@chipm0nkey Жыл бұрын
Fascinating insight into mental health, great stories and loved Bella when he was at LFC. Top talent.
@daveelp1085 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most frank and honest interviews I have heard in a long time, just goes to show never judge a book by it's cover and all that. Well doen to Craig for talking and Gary for listening.
@ohanlon86 Жыл бұрын
Cracking episode. He's always been a likable fella despite playing for a load of rivals.
@althain1988 Жыл бұрын
Wey a lot of us loved Craig up here at Newcastle , two things you could always guarantee from him was hard work and passion to do well. Great player
@matthewdoyle3877 Жыл бұрын
And an ego
@stagumphs Жыл бұрын
One of the most refreshingly honest interviews I’ve seen from a footballer. Kudos to Craig. Glad he’s still thriving and learning. That’s the lesson kids need. Bit to be perfect, but to learn from your mistakes. Sadly for him, his learning was a little late. But at least he’s taking accountability and owning it.
@garyhearn6631 Жыл бұрын
I've got so much time for Craig Bellamy. A top man because of his pure honesty
@ClassDynamix Жыл бұрын
These interviews are so great - authentic and insightful as we get a window into the lives of these guys. Similarly to the Dele Alii one - I've been left feeling very humbled and I've let go all of my preconceptions (misconceptions) towards Craig Bellamy and I admire his raw honesty, accountability and views very much. Fantastic viewing and I wish this guy all the best in the future.
@kevzo01 Жыл бұрын
Loved him as a player, fantastic service for Wales. He always gave us his best and I'l especially never forget the Italy game! Very brave for speaking about his demons, RIP Gary Speed
@ehsansabaghian5617 Жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I was not a fan of Bellamy, but now that I am older, I appreciate his honesty and being real with himself and others. The same for Roy Keane. Being free, honest, authentic, and brave enough to talk your mind is the most important characteristic of any person.
@bluerhythmboy Жыл бұрын
Met Bellamy as a kid when he was here at Newcastle. He was brilliant with me and gave me loads of his time. I think reputations precede him a bit, looking forward to hearing from him in detail
@Strafuzz Жыл бұрын
He’s done a ton of charity work under the radar too
@bigdawg8875 Жыл бұрын
I met him at a football tournament as a kid (his son was also playing) he refused to sign anyone’s jerseys other than mine as I had a Celtic jersey on haha
@shanginadildo Жыл бұрын
@@Strafuzzhow did you find out then?
@russellgilmore Жыл бұрын
Exactly same experience pal. He was fantastic with me as a young un. I've always said it about him
@richiewarren547 Жыл бұрын
@@shanginadildodo you not know what under the radar means son? It’s not highly classified information 🤦♂️😂
@LeeThomas-v4e10 ай бұрын
Good interview. Gary does a great job of letting his guests talk & not interrupt every two mins.
@jamesbloy2881 Жыл бұрын
Always liked him, think he was criminally underrated as a player. Sometimes couldn’t get out of his own way. Great interview
@leetaylor7375 Жыл бұрын
I didn't like him as a player only because I am united. But what an absolutely amazing footballer he was and man he is. His honesty is overwhelming. Nice one Craig. For someone that suffers from depression badly. You are an inspiration and I from now will always look at you in a different light. Thank you and good luck in your life.
@roolaing Жыл бұрын
He’s done well to own his mistakes and pinpoint improvements in his family life, eg, with his daughter. None of us are the finished article. We all have regrets. But we also have a future. Thanks for reminding us of that, Craig, don’t be too hard on yourself! ❤
@jamesdennett196 Жыл бұрын
Superb interview. Openness, honesty, good advice and some great stories. This series just continues to be of a very high standard.
@seracohW Жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget you sitting Rio and foster down like school kids, I can only remember that fondly because we went on to win the game. What a legend from a united fan.
@amc5966 Жыл бұрын
I always liked Belamy. A player you despised in opposition but absolutely loved if he was on your team. Great honest interview. The Overlap with Gary really is one of the best vlogs on KZbin.
@ashredding_ Жыл бұрын
Livewire, engaging, honest, divisive and firey, love or hate Bellamy, I think this episode will be interesting. Good work getting these type of characters on, it's what makes the episodes so good to watch. 👍👏
@chris-cole Жыл бұрын
Wow! I find such a beauty in his honesty. Only a guy with a good heart would present himself this way. Gregarious, honest, humble. The knowledge he has of football, together with his personal characteristics will make him excel in management. Him and Kompany are good company. He didn't get to talk about his charity work in sponsoring South African school projects and that would let everyone see how big a heart he has. Im so glad hes winning his battles with his demons. Craig, you're a beautiful person inside and out. Thank you for being a positive influence for Mental health and a wonderful example of how positivty wins. Best of luck to you and Burnley 🙏 Gary, another fantastic episode ❤ Thank you!
@comedychannels11 ай бұрын
What a fascinating interview ...... I always liked Craig when many were often negative about him. It's about understanding the people around you and giving them the time and attention i.e the respect required in getting to understand them. Being misunderstood so often himself Graig has brilliantly used the resulting frustrations as a force for good. He has unselfishly turned personal negatives and potential negative outcomes into collective positives. It sounds simple because it is but in reality and in day to day practice it's a highly advanced way to behave and operate. Respect.
@safebans1369 Жыл бұрын
Its hilarious to me that the Cube is one of Gary's favourite places to hang out 😂😂 He's so competitive, its adorable
@simonhalkyard4427 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant episode of the Overlap. Honesty, transparency across really important topics. Loved this one.
@mikew742 Жыл бұрын
Really impressed with Craig Bellamy, how he was owning the things he’d done in the past, and aware when he was wrong, seemed to to have a really constructive view of both his previous and current life
@Daniel_Addy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely pal - He knows that he needs to do that to grow personally and to have the lads he coaches respect him! Hard work been mental... I feel it most days!
@Bruce-zr2om Жыл бұрын
Good to hear someone being open and honest about his troubles.
@jonathanmcneice2299 Жыл бұрын
Most will focus on the Riise incident but the second half of the interview was really insightful. It was fascinating hearing a sportsperson talking about the struggles they face keeping their mental health in check in the hear and now. I wasn’t expecting much from this episode but ended up being one of my favourites.
@glorioustrump245 Жыл бұрын
"hear and now" lmao
@Jay-mi5dg Жыл бұрын
Yeah same here. Was quite shocked in a good way how much I loved this one. Just shows how down to earth he actually is and even people like him suffer with “normal” people problems
@CraigCairney83 Жыл бұрын
Interview starts around 5:04. Prior to that, it’s just Neville shrieking.
@pojack_mansa Жыл бұрын
What an amazing interview from someone whose behavior overshadowed his talent. I had written him off to be honest because he seemed extremely selfish and entitled in his playing days but to hear him now is almost like hearing a completely different person. He is taking responsibilities and choosing to be accountable. Fair play to you, Craig. Your story will be great for young professionals (in any discipline) coming up.
@badofcheese Жыл бұрын
Words are cheap.
@orange4755 Жыл бұрын
@badofcheese but they are a food start.
@OBWanKenobi Жыл бұрын
@@badofcheeseand? Not cheap, free but what is your point?
@flyoverfredusa Жыл бұрын
the guy has lived 100 lives, imagine all the amazing knowledge he'll be passing on to the young squad at Burnley, no wonder they love him there. Wish him all the best, some great life lessons in there for all of us
@OBWanKenobi Жыл бұрын
Lol, how has he lived 100 lives?
@80proctor Жыл бұрын
Agreed a part 2 is needed! Great interview to listen too
@Gerry-Hat-trick Жыл бұрын
Great interview. As a Norwich fan, I had the pleasure of watching CB "grow up" to a certain extent, and obviously become a decent player. Iwan Roberts' autobiography mentions how he was nicknamed "Best in Club", because even if he had no talent in a different sport, he had to always get the best kit. Always with the bravado and swagger, clearly masking a lot of the issues he's had. Still, a character and it seems now, a decent human being, aware of his failings, personal battles and appreciation of those around him. Good on him and the best of luck!
@waynedonovan8830 Жыл бұрын
Love this interview, love Craig Bellamy. Actually suffer with dark thoughts sometimes and listening to this guy express himself so openly really helps. Well done Craig
@zulqarnain84 Жыл бұрын
Love the fact that the interviewer, Gary, is an experience & succesfull footballer himself
@ArunPandey-zn1dk Жыл бұрын
The smile and laughter said a lot without saying...glad you spoke about being down Craig. Great to know you as a person through this interview.
@spursfandan6081 Жыл бұрын
I never liked craig back in the day, im not going to lie. But honestly its great to see a Man grow and own his mistakes, recognise his flaws as a man and really own them. His honesty is refreshing and now i see a man i can respect and really like. I only see good things in craigs future now and truly wish him all the success he now deserves. A real gent and top top man. Great to see! 👍🏼👏🏼
@thegoose126 Жыл бұрын
When you hear these guys speak honestly you realise they go through the same struggles as us all. Never been a fan of Craig or Joey Barton but hearing them open up you realise MH plus fame fortune is a hard balancing act. Great interview as always. ❤
@davidryan7613 Жыл бұрын
Bellamy and Barton aren't the same. Barton is an out and out scumbag, Bellamy comes across too sharp and too big a mouth which got him in trouble. I could see him jumping in to save a guy getting a beating on the ground from a group regardless if he got hurt aswel, whereas Barton would be throwing kicks to the guys head.
@jonw8435 Жыл бұрын
Bellamy had and still has a take no nonsense attitude, gotta admire him for that...Barton is just bottom of the barrel faeces, agree with what you said but I think Barton would rather knife someone like his brother did@@davidryan7613
@im.tellingyou Жыл бұрын
Barton is a thug
@michaelmckie9164 Жыл бұрын
Bellamy was a great player at NUFC but was right to move on at the time. I think you can see he has matured greatly and takes accountability for what he did wrong and also understands the favours he was done by people like Sir Bobby. Great to hear how much he has clearly grown up. Wish him well.
@JayIgnition Жыл бұрын
Agreee completely with the final words echoed by both guys. Part two needed please Overlap.
@DMMJBSM Жыл бұрын
So lucky to get The overlap on youtube, some really brilliant interviews,
@djs250 Жыл бұрын
amazing interview,well done Gary for letting him speak,it almost felt like it was a therapy session for him and really ended to soon
Жыл бұрын
Great interview To me, Craig Bellamy is one of the legends of the premier league One thing about this interview, and hopefully you do it with interviews going forward, I feel you should have talked about his whole career As a City fan, I was disappointed you didn't go into his time at City He was incredible for us and I know I was devastated when he left Skill, finishing, electric pace, hard work... he was everything City needed in a player... He even did an interview back in the day, if I'm not mistaken, where he said he hoped he'd finish his career at City. Again, was gutted to see him leave my club. Hopefully you do a part 2 like you joked about or just in general, ask players about their whole careers because this is great viewing and it would have been even better with the full career delved into. Cheers
@Heavymetaltherapy1 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Interview. Loved Bellers at West Ham I wish he'd stayed with us longer. All the best Craig
@bigjonno Жыл бұрын
great episode Gary. Making real good moves on KZbin lately. Looking forward to more of your projects.
@onlyonamonday Жыл бұрын
These interviews are fantastic ! A great insight into the footballers lives . We assume its all fabulous , yet they're just normal guys really with the same issues
@henryprice7447 Жыл бұрын
Only discovered this channel a month or so ago and have been binge watching the interviews. Quality content and nev is such a great interviewer.
@Daniel_Addy Жыл бұрын
My vote for "Most improved"
@petersimpson9852 Жыл бұрын
Bellamy playing for Newcastle was great he gave the fans plenty to cheer for
@parindo Жыл бұрын
Never was a fan of Craig but always thought he was a decent player, really enjoyed this interview though actually loved his honesty. Wish him all the best
@mrchuffachuffa7864 Жыл бұрын
Always rated Craig as a player but not as a person...not anymore. Excellent interview too. Looking forward to part 2.
@dannyb763 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal content on this channel, one of the highlights of 2023 and a welcome distraction while the world seems to be falling apart!
@TooneTV-Girona Жыл бұрын
It’s easy forget that footballers are human and have feelings and emotions and go through many of the same issues most of us do. Thanks for being so open, Craig😊
@felixere9107 Жыл бұрын
Honestly. This was like looking in the mirror. Amazing episode. Thank you for this. ❤️
@Daniel_Addy Жыл бұрын
Me too mate.... There's plenty of us and talking to each other helps me! Keep strong pal :)
@winfieldcraig Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Always thought there was more about CB, and this interview showed it. Wish him well!!!
@JJSFC Жыл бұрын
Proper interview this - agree with Bellamy that it felt too short.
@QuickyA2011 Жыл бұрын
Actually really enjoyed this. He seems to have matured a lot. Fair play. Great interview from a very good player.
@ganadon Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait! Well done on this brilliant series!
@roathripper Жыл бұрын
Get Barton on here next Gaz!
@Biteme-mq3up Жыл бұрын
Love him as a player and as a person, thank you for a great interview ☺️❤️
@Bobby_sprinkles Жыл бұрын
Wow. Such an open and honest interview
@cwt15cwt15 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Changed my opinion of Bellamy--a thoughtful, committed guy. Hope he continues to succeed.
@xGibbo1 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, very open and honest. Real shame there wasn't the support in place for mental health back then, I'm sure a lot of players would have had better careers or at least a better understanding of themselves. Good to see Bellamy has found ways to manage his overactive thoughts and depression clouds, very relateable
@pauloconnor689810 ай бұрын
Excellent and nice to see someone speak honest about the good and the bad. Now you can see a good person
@leonardjohnny6711 ай бұрын
Gary’s a great interviewer, respectful and let’s people talk
@mickyboy6673 Жыл бұрын
Fair play to Craig he not once blamed anyone else for his own bad life decisions/actions, totally owned each and every one of them. A decent footballer on his day to be fair and should have achieved more. Young footballers could learn a lot from this interview imo.
@dahsellsavon113 Жыл бұрын
Love you Bellers. Brilliant open discussion. The overlap is class.
@garethreynolds8798 Жыл бұрын
Such an amazing interview, pure honesty. Gary does get the best out of people. I think this may have been quite cathartic for Craig as well.
@Myros00 Жыл бұрын
This was so insightful and fantastic to watch. Happy to hear Bellamy is doing better and taking steps in the right direction!
@tomsco7 Жыл бұрын
This is the best overlap episode yet, brilliant
@845H1R Жыл бұрын
Always good to hear someones story once they've mellowed and matured.
@CmonTheHoopsCeltic Жыл бұрын
Love Bellamy one of my favourite players growing up done a great job every club he played for. Gutted He didn't stay at Celtic longer ⬜🟩
@dahsellsavon113 Жыл бұрын
natural replacement for Larsson. Gutted the board didnt get him was only 6 million and 40k a week and he wanted to stay but unfortunately we had quite a bit of debt at the time and were already looking to move on high earners like Sutton, Hartson and Thommo. Thing is if he had signed him for 6 we would have ended up selling him for 12 so daft move on the board.
@michaelporter4179 Жыл бұрын
That hatrick against Dundee U some player HH
@JohnBhoy-ue4fk Жыл бұрын
Goal at Ibrox was a stunning strike. Put the big Greek fella on his arse. Genuinely thought he was Henrik’s replacement. Usual penny pinching by the board
@dahsellsavon113 Жыл бұрын
@JohnBhoy-ue4fk still watch that goal every now and then. Aye the board did penny pinch but to be fair we were in like 30 million of debt to the royal bank of Scotland at the time. Had 4 or 5 players on 40k a week back then wasn't far off what the top earners at English clubs were getting
@matthewbrookes4275 Жыл бұрын
Almost every player I despised in their playing days has made me respect them after their careers over through stuff like this
@philliprayner882711 ай бұрын
never liked him as player & we all have our misconceptions of what ppl are like on & off the pitch & you hear the stories but i thought it was very inlighting that he was going through mental issues without realising it ,reconised them ,owned up to them & trying to work through it & got more of an understanding of things hes done & said in his past that hes come to terms with & on reflection alot of it was on him ,found it very inciteful & honest
@matthewdoolan2257 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest I didnt expect Bellamy to be into his early 90's Marseille 😂 Great interview, really cool to see a different side of him!
@jcumbes Жыл бұрын
Great episode. Probably my favourite. What a player he was on his day.
@marshac1479 Жыл бұрын
Another good one. Great to hear Craig talking about his mental health struggles.
@johneden3810 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. I was gutted when he left Newcastle. Good luck to him
@jacks2176 Жыл бұрын
A part 2 talking about Craig's time at City (Robinho bust ups) and Wales career would be brilliant
@nicksneeraj Жыл бұрын
Smashing player. Smashing Human Being. Outran Rio to score that goal in that derby. Football and Footballers are just wonderful ❤❤
@LEIGHMAC74 Жыл бұрын
Fair play Bellamy opening up like that and admitting mistakes in his past. Very brave interview
@tdogsports2950 Жыл бұрын
This was really powerful, I related personally to alot of what he was saying. Best interview yet.