Greatest Athletes of All Time Debate GETS HEATED

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We each give our top 5 greatest athletes of all time and the debate gets heated.
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[@stevenclark1844]

I'm sorry but Wayne is number 1. 1000 more points than 2nd place is just ridiculous

[@americanguys5579]

Lia Thomas. No debate.

[@straightchristianconservative]

Hilarious!!

[@donlee.4308]

Damn you beat me to it.

[@fbgvic]

Cristiano Ronaldo.

[@aluakaba4924]

😂😂😂

[@Adrian-zw6sc]

🤔Hmm, not even a faint mention of any of the 3 kings of the court... Roger Rafa or NoVaxx For a sport that demands footwork, quickness, balance, upper body lower body synchronization, soft hands/ eye coordination, power, stamina, agility, the continual mental chess game of using court positioning & angles to construct points... I mean tennis seems as ideal as any sport to determine some of the top sportsmen.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

Tennis is criminally underrated. It’s just preposterously difficult. And I say this as a former college football player.

[@hazza9595]

It's either Djoko or Rafa Nadal in my opinion. Nadal had so many injuries but has the highest grand slam % win rate. While Djoko has the most grand slams.

[@MarvelousSquad]

in my opinion anybody that doesn’t have both Messi and Jordan in their top 5 has no credibility lmao

[@adamazirar6747]

Ronaldo????

[@MarvelousSquad]

@@adamazirar6747 he didn't win his sports greatest trophy and that matters, other athletes have and multiple times

[@adamazirar6747]

@@MarvelousSquad because he was in a weak side. His best chance was 2022 where he had a good team but was at his worst moment and was old. Put this team in the prime of Ronaldo and he's reaching S.F or winning it 100%

[@MarvelousSquad]

@@adamazirar6747 yeah but it’s not about what could’ve been, it’s about what has been. Argentina is traditionally a good nation but all the sides messi has played with have been mediocre in terms of individual talent. Portugal has arguably had better talent for the last 10 years, their 2022 squad was better than argentinas, if you can’t win then you can’t win

[@adamazirar6747]

@@MarvelousSquad i literally told you. If Cristiano was on his prime he would have won it whit the squad. And also whit 5 penalties. And We are saying Athlete. Cristiano Ronaldo is the definition of Athlete.

[@ryanamis8829]

I think you'd almost have to make a separate list for individual sport athletes and team sport athletes.

[@ryanamis8829]

Bo Jackson as an athlete was more "folk hero" than overall career accomplishments. Top to bottom best athlete but really had a pretty small sampling size.

[@1cryogen]

Bo Jackson playing in college looked like a man playing against children.

[@earlybird9679]

Mike Trout and Shohei are automatically at a disadvantage if championships are a prerequisite to qualifying for this list. It's a whole lot tougher for a single player in baseball to have an overall 'wins above replacement' impact in the sport than in a team sport like basketball with fewer players on the playing surface, and limit-less 'at-bats' so to speak.

[@saltysyracusian]

Some others I think are worthy of consideration: Cael Sanderson Bo Jackson Mike Tyson MJ Wilt Chamberlain Deon Sanders Tom Brady Larry Bird Pedro Martinez

[@jasonstraight1320]

I’ve tried making a list too. I tend to also take into consideration not just changing the game they play, but the impact they have outside the game. My list could very well just be a favorites list rather than who are objectively the best ever. That said, my list, in no particular order: -Ken Griffey, Jr. -Michael Jordon -Michael Phelps -Dominic Hasek -Dale Earnhardt

[@Isaac-qe2in]

Even if I was open to going with a career top tier goalie, I am NOT on board with a sittin on your butt sport... -Dale-

[@mr.sandman4054]

@Isaac do you realize how physically demanding and mental motorsports are?

[@straightchristianconservative]

Anyone that puts a golfer on this list is insane

[@christophercatiller2422]

I’d say LeBron changed the game…for the worse.

[@melabbn8731]

Michael Phelps Wayne Gretzky

[@josephwootenVGK]

WHAT A JOKE. #1 MJ #2 Tiger Woods #3 Wayne Gretzky' #4 Ken Griffey jr. #5 Bo Jackson

[@sterlingkellogg-clarke2738]

At least u have Wayne at #3

[@straightchristianconservative]

A golfer¿

[@LoriWolfcat]

I’m not even that into sports, but these guys are just entertaining to watch. Very knowledgeable and I like the accents!

[@ponyexpress2724]

So he states in the video that he's specifically calling it "The Top 5 Sportsman of Our Time" list, and yet in the description box above it's titled "Greatest Athletes of All Time"... 🤷‍♂️

[@scottthornton4220]

Lebron has changed the game more the Wilt??? He ain't the athlete that Wilt was either. What about Usain Bolt??

[@mel-nq6re]

What about U.Bolt?

[@josephprendergast2420]

​@@mel-nq6retiger woods is not a better athlete than Usain bolt

[@mattingly8322]

Mj changed basketball so much more than LeBron

[@mikecuomo1604]

Jordan is the greatest. LeBron failed so many times when the moment counted. Had to join super teams in order to win and still failed most of the time bc he couldn't make his teammates better. LeBron 7 extra years then Jordan. Had to play that much to have 1 thing on Jordan

[@joe.osullivan]

Just some other names not mentioned that I think deserve to be in this conversation would be: Michael Schumacher Pele Peyton Manning Laurence Taylor Roger Federer Jim Brown Tony Hawk Willie Mays Sugar Ray Robinson Carl Lewis Jesse Owens

[@straightchristianconservative]

That 1st list, I wouldn't expect anything else from a child.

[@martinroland]

😆

[@shamichaelthompson6713]

No Jackson?? I think if you’re going to do Bo Jackson because of dual sports, you have to take him off and put Deion Sanders on your list. The reason why did because Deion Sanders is the unquestionable best cornerback ever. So, Deion played two major sports and he was the greatest ever in one of them.

[@EllaXRob]

LeLance Bronstrong LeChina LeBalco LeStatpad LeWhine LeSuperteam

[@raviteja9665]

Tennis stars and Soccer stars are highly underrated in USA and those are physically and mentally demanding sports than Basketball and NFL, I agree with Michael Jordon, Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt though

[@1337slic3]

I personally don't consider things like swimming or track to be "sports". A sport is a game, and in a game you must be in *direct opposition* to your opponent. So if we go by "greatest sportsman", I would not consider guys like Phelps or Bolt. But even then it's difficult to define "greatest", because, for example, when comparing LeCrybaby and MJ, you have to consider things like era and longevity. MJ *DOMINATED* in an era where it was *much more difficult* to dominate offensively, where as LeChina being as dominant as he has been for such a long time is just incredible. Both are peerless in those aspects. So I really like Jake's trying to more narrowly define "greatest" with specific parameters. It's also really hard to compare different sports, as some are far more team reliant than others, so it's harder for an individual to stand out. But, if you made me choose, imo Gretzky is far and away the GOAT of all sports (by my definition). Yes, he played in an era where it was easier to score, but he revolutionized hockey by exploiting it, and remained as dominant as he was even after the rest of the league adapted. If you took away every goal he ever scored, he would still have the most points of all time in just assists, and the only players who are even close to that number are guys like Jagr and Messier who played like 250-300 games more than he did.

[@martinroland]

Agree here on MJ, for me its really strange that he choose Lebron over MJ?

[@MattFoote]

1) Eddy Mercx 2) Michael Jordan 3) Pele

[@OneSurferDude]

Pistol Pete (Could Play well today) or Larry Bird (Not a great athlete but killed them on the court with his mental ability 2-3 steps ahead and calling his shots), I like both Hershel Walker & Bo Jackson (saw Bo run the fence and flat footed leap into the stands & AU) Hershel did ballet & MMA in his 40's dude is still a beast...If Bo hadn't had his freak injury he would have set some records for his time...there are so many others that this is hard to do...

[@donlee.4308]

Ali , Woods, MJ, Babe Ruth, and Maradona for me.

[@pdmayton]

If you insist on having a 5 GOATS from any sport on a list, I think you have to exclude basketball entirely just because they are legitimate arguments for a GOAT. Almost no one is gonna argue against a Tom Brady, Tiger Woods, Michael Phelps, Wayne Gretzky or Mesi. In Bball, I could make genuine arguments for probably a dozen guys as the GOAT. Bill Russel, Wilt Chamberlain, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, Lebron James and more.

[@hazza9595]

Couldn't you argue that Shaq has the same 3 criteria points Lebron has? Rings, atheletic monster and changed the game? That still doesn't mean either of them are better than MJ, as his skill level is above the 2.

[@johnrand9799]

Horrible list... Deon Sanders!

[@democracyofthedead9282]

Please help me out. I'm a dummy, I guess. So, Kareem is rarely in GOAT conversations, but it was always respectable if someone were to include him. But he was included because of the scoring record he had, the unstoppable skyhook, and the rings. Got it. So, now, Lebron dethrones Kareem, who was rarely in the GOAT conversations to begin with, with the scoring record and now we have everyone saying that that alone makes him surpass Jordan? Am I missing something? And why is DW shy about the OBVIOUS qualifications you have to have to fully appreciate this 'cupcake' era? Am I supposed to just ignore the fact that it's EASIER to score??Is it really feasible to think that Lebron would have had this many points if he started out in the early 80's? I seriously, highly, sincerely doubt it. And now the whole framing for this GOAT dialogue has changed. I can't even bring any of this crap up without everyone going nuts about the fact that I just don't appreciate Lebron's achievement. Ummmmm, no. But the fact that they go there so quickly tells me all I need to know about the typical Lebron fan.

[@TierNoneOperator]

I'd say luke warm at best, definitely not heated.

[@warrenamos535]

honorable mention to rugby legend Dan carter.

[@bradleyjohnson229]

David is right

[@quebecforce111]

Wayne Gretzky are ok for the first place, never an athlete dominate is sport like Gretzky make ,. The stats of Gretzky are ridiculus

[@straightchristianconservative]

Jesse Owen's beat tha' nazis

[@kevinkoech5182]

The greatest marathoner Eliud Kipchoge has to be on the list..

[@straightchristianconservative]

No one could make a perfect list, but a golfer and an America hatin' wnba player?

[@oldmovieman7550]

Babe Ruth number 1

[@andrewmcgee5266]

Michael Phelps should be #1

[@MarvelousSquad]

usain bolt is better

[@blakejensen1470]

Greatest athlete Michael Johnson the track star. The Olympics changed the days that they ran the 200 and the 400. So that he could do both

[@RosygreyglassesS]

Lebron James slacks off too much and gives up on plays during games. Not even close to the greatest athlete. Also, no one picked Wilt Chamberlain???

[@quebecforce111]

Imagine ,Gretzky are the leader for goals,pass and points. Imagine ,if he never make a single goal he finish first of all time in points only with the pass. Its ridiculus how he dominate the game. He win 4 stanley cup the hardest league trophy championship to win.

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Not True! Orr and Lemieux were better than Gretzky! In 1980s NHL 8 goals per game NHL! Today only 6 goals per game NHL! If Auston Matthews had played In 1982 he would had scored over 100 goals easily beating Gretzky's 92 goal record! Ovechkin ERA only 5,3-6 goals per game! If Ovechkin had played high scoring 1980s he would had scored over 1200 goals easily! In 1980s 90% of NHL players from Canada only! Today under 45% of NHL players from Canada! Much better tougher and better NHL today than boring slow violent no talent 1980s! Canada have 575000 hockey players today! USA have 550000 hockey players today! Ovechkin's Russia have only 80000 hockey players today! Soccer have 250 million players vs Canada 650000 players that means The Soccer All Stars would beat Orr Gretzky Lemieux easily 100 game Series 93-7! Soccer have 4 billion fans around the world! Cricket have 2,5 billion fans around the world! Gretzky is not is even the most known hockey player ever! Russian hockey player Kharlamov had 225 million fans in Former Soviet Union in 1970s! Cricket player Bradman hit 99,5 runs average and se

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Cricket player Bradman hit 99,5 runs average and Second Best was 64 runs! Bradman better than Gretzky because Brett Hull 86 goals and Gretzky 92! Sadaharu Oh hit 868 home runs in Japan! Oh better than Gretzky because Japan 130 million people and Canada only 40 million! Gretzky played against players from Canada only! Gretzky is good only in Canada not the whole world!

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Orr and Lemieux were better than Gretzky! In 1980s NHL 8 goals per game NHL! Today only 6 goals per game! If Auston Matthews had played In 1982 he would had scored over 100 goals easily beating Gretzky's 92 goal record easily! Ovechkin ERA only 5,3-6 goals per game NHL! Ovechkin had played high scoring 1980s he would had scored over 1200 goals easily! Canada have 650000 hockey players today! USA have 500000 hockey players today! Ovechkin's Russia have only 80000 hockey players today! Canada and USA should have 15 guys who have scored over 800 goals like Ovechkin today! Soccer have 250 million players vs Canada 650000 players that means The Soccer All Stars would beat Orr Gretzky Lemieux easily 100 game Series 93-7! Soccer have 4 billion fans around the world! Cricket have 2,5 billion fans around the world! Gretzky is not even the most known hockey player! Russian Kharlamov had 225 million fans in Former Soviet Union in 1970s!

[@RealConserveAtive]

Lebron over MJ? never

[@T0PF1VE_D-O-A]

The fact that there isn’t one prominent MLBer on either of y’all’s list is disturbing. It’s the hardest sport on the planet. You want to see a real athlete? Hand them a baseball and tell them throw it to you. Or swing a bat. That’ll tell you exactly how truly athletic somebody is. Hell, Jordan tried it and was awful at it. That should say something.

[@MarvelousSquad]

hockey is literally harder than baseball

[@indiana_bones5583]

Rocky Marciano is hands down the best athlete of all time

[@CarloschuNieves]

What a Joke!

[@cmt9199]

Not having Simone biles is blasphemy

[@straightchristianconservative]

2nd list, ok.

[@ashleighecheverria9473]

David. Hands down

[@johncrawford1320]

Jake Cain dyes his hair

[@davidodom3549]

i love lamp

[@MrReds1903]

No Jesse Owens and his four gold medals and world records?

[@johnjohnson1923]

Phelps has 22 gold medals

[@martinroland]

Lebron over MJ?

[@glencastleberry8632]

Bjorn Borg !

[@straightchristianconservative]

3rd list, fine minus lebron. Tha NBA is too weak of a league, now.

[@CarloschuNieves]

What?!!!

[@lamelajohnandreih.4042]

My Top 5 List. 1. MICHAEL JORDAN 2. MOHAMMAD ALI 3. MICHAEL PHELPS 4. CRISTIANO RONALDO 5. USAIN BOLT

[@heatherhavenhall8839]

War Eagle 🦅

[@louisalexandercrocco3530]

No Jerry Rice is insane. The undisputed NFL GOAT!

[@TyroneBiggums789]

Jerry rice had a slow 40 time

[@dude.]

Nickerson is better than tiger

[@liamfradd]

cool

[@CarsonFromm]

what's a wayne gransky

[@sterlingkellogg-clarke2738]

Look at his stats

[@323lessthanzero]

Simone Biles hands down. She gets judged at a different level. Has totally dominated the sport for years.

[@cmt9199]

Finally someone else says it she has moves named after her only she can do

[@323lessthanzero]

@@cmt9199 And they would not allow her to do certain moves that she had perfected because they were too dangerous for others to try. They would actually deduct points if she did them LOL

[@cmt9199]

@@323lessthanzero I guess most people don’t actually realize how hard gymnastics is. I can play football, basketball and baseball. Hell I was even all state In track but if I tried to do gymnastics I would end up in the hospital

[@pilgrim1548]

@chris tobin I bet you couldn't execute a triple axle along with all of the other technical aspects in figure skating either... OR finish a freestyle mogul skiing course complete with aerial maneuvers... OR have a hope on the mat versus a world-class multi-gold medalist judoka... So who decides which sports carry the most weight. It wasn't too long ago that the Olympic decathlon was considered THE sport to settle such questions, now it's barely on many's radar. Cultural popularity and partiality play major roles in these sorts of debates.

[@cmt9199]

@@pilgrim1548 did I say that wasn’t a sport I think Olympic sports are the hardest but I think gymnastics is the hardest she most impressive